Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards / Subscription

2013-04-07 Thread Jeff Lane
Hi all,
This is for anyone. I can't, for the life of me, recall how we subscribed to
this list, it's been a while. I have someone that would like to
join..definite brain drain here and any constructive help would be very much
appreciatedTIA

You're six is clear, just put your nose on the horizon and enjoy the sunset.

 
Jeff


I'm good for chipping in too.

---
Brian Weeden
Secure World Foundation
+1 202 683-8534

On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;)
 
 
 lopaka
 
 
 
 From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
 
 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this 
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to 
 sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan
 
 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
 I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of 
 folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to 
 break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a 
 Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a 
 groupJeff
 
 
 I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy 
 to contribute now.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
 Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now 
 awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this 
 List/enterprise.
 Duncan
 
 On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
 In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
 Willing to donate.
 fp
 
 At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
 Collective,
 
 
   Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who 
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the 
 end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
 __
 Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little 
 temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin 
 Franklin, 1755)
 
 



Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards / Subscription

2013-04-07 Thread Christopher Fisk
It's in the headers of every email =)

Reply-To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
List-Id: hardware-hardwaregroup.com
List-Unsubscribe:
http://lists.hardwaregroup.com/options.cgi/hardware-hardwaregroup.com,
mailto:hardware-requ...@lists.hardwaregroup.com?subject=unsubscribe
List-Archive: 
http://lists.hardwaregroup.com/private.cgi/hardware-hardwaregroup.com
List-Help: mailto:hardware-requ...@lists.hardwaregroup.com?subject=help
List-Subscribe:
http://lists.hardwaregroup.com/listinfo.cgi/hardware-hardwaregroup.com,
mailto:hardware-requ...@lists.hardwaregroup.com?subject=subscribe
Errors-To: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sender: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com

Just send an email to hardware-requ...@lists.hardwaregroup.com with
subject subscribe and no text in the body from the email address you
want to sub.




On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi all,
 This is for anyone. I can't, for the life of me, recall how we subscribed
 to
 this list, it's been a while. I have someone that would like to
 join..definite brain drain here and any constructive help would be very
 much
 appreciatedTIA

 You're six is clear, just put your nose on the horizon and enjoy the
 sunset.


 Jeff


 I'm good for chipping in too.

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Secure World Foundation
 +1 202 683-8534

 On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;)
 
 
  lopaka
 
 
  
  From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com
  To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
  Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
 
  Hey Jeff,
  A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
  HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
  sharewith those that respond.
  Thanks for your service!
  Duncan
 
  On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
  I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
  folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to
  break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a
  Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
  groupJeff
 
 
  I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
  to contribute now.
 
  Mike
 
 
 
  At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
  Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
  awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
  List/enterprise.
  Duncan
 
  On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
  In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long
 time.
  Willing to donate.
  fp
 
  At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
  Collective,
 
 
Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
  pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
  end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
  __
  Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
  temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
  Franklin, 1755)
 
 




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-29 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh

At 10:23 PM 3/28/2013, you wrote:
I haven't posted in a long time, but it's been awesome seeing so 
many old names on the list! I have a lot of fond memories over the 
years, with a lot of lurking over the past decade. I joined the 
overclocking group and Cyrix group in highschool, and am married 
with two kids now. Hard to believe...time flies.


Glad to hear everyone is doing well!

Scott


Hear hear! Kinda wished Glasswolf was still around though :(



--
Jin-Wei Tioh
http://jwtioh.bluesonic.net

Death is just God's way of dropping Carrier Detect 



Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-28 Thread Scott Sipe
I haven't posted in a long time, but it's been awesome seeing so many old names 
on the list! I have a lot of fond memories over the years, with a lot of 
lurking over the past decade. I joined the overclocking group and Cyrix group 
in highschool, and am married with two kids now. Hard to believe...time flies.

Glad to hear everyone is doing well!

Scott

On Mar 23, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Jim Edwards wrote:

 Hey guys.
 I'm alive. I pay the bills. Whats up? jaec...@gmail.com
 Jim
 
 Collective,
 
 
   Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who pays
 for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end of this
 year, any info would be appreciated.
 
 
 



Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-23 Thread Jim Edwards
Hey guys.
I'm alive. I pay the bills. Whats up? jaec...@gmail.com
Jim

 Collective,


Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who pays
 for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end of this
 year, any info would be appreciated.





Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-23 Thread Jim Edwards
My bad Good morning to ya! I have been slacking on the maintenance of
the list. If I need to spiff things up in someway, let me know. The domain
won't expire. I still kick myself for letting .org go. I'm glad you guys
are still here chatting it up, y'all make THG autopilot real easy. ;)

How can I help ya? If you want to donate, you don't have to by any means
but... jedwa...@hardwaregroup.com for paypal.

Jim

 Hey guys.
 I'm alive. I pay the bills. Whats up? jaec...@gmail.com
 Jim

 Collective,


Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who pays
 for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end of this
 year, any info would be appreciated.








Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-23 Thread Jeff Lane
Great to hear you're ok, Jim. A bunch of us were concerned about your
healthJeff



Hey guys.
I'm alive. I pay the bills. Whats up? jaec...@gmail.com Jim

 Collective,


Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who 
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end 
 of this year, any info would be appreciated.





Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread Al Anger


Alex Lee wrote:

 jim graciously picked up the slack and has
 been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he
 resurrected it.

I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point.
Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the many
helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all.
Al



Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread Bryan Seitz

On 3/21/13 1:24 PM, Al Anger wrote:


Alex Lee wrote:


jim graciously picked up the slack and has
been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he
resurrected it.

I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point.
Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the many
helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all.
Al


Haha Ditto on the big mouth part, we all grow up sometime just took me 
longer? :)
This list is full of good people and good information, it is not going 
anywhere.




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I'm 54 going on 55.  Have no plans to grow up.  Flame war, anyone? :)

Sent from my mobile device.

On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote:

 On 3/21/13 1:24 PM, Al Anger wrote:
 
 Alex Lee wrote:
 
 jim graciously picked up the slack and has
 been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he
 resurrected it.
 I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point.
 Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the many
 helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all.
 Al
 
 Haha Ditto on the big mouth part, we all grow up sometime just took me 
 longer? :)
 This list is full of good people and good information, it is not going 
 anywhere.
 


Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread Julian Zottl
I'm definitely never going to grow up!


Julian


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote:

 I'm 54 going on 55.  Have no plans to grow up.  Flame war, anyone? :)

 Sent from my mobile device.

 On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote:

  On 3/21/13 1:24 PM, Al Anger wrote:
 
  Alex Lee wrote:
 
  jim graciously picked up the slack and has
  been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he
  resurrected it.
  I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point.
  Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the many
  helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all.
  Al
 
  Haha Ditto on the big mouth part, we all grow up sometime just took me
 longer? :)
  This list is full of good people and good information, it is not going
 anywhere.
 



Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

I'm 54 going on 55.  Have no plans to grow up.  Flame war, anyone? :)


Heh heh.  Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, and 
probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw stones 
about anyone here being a big mouth.  This list is, without question, 
the best mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to contribute to it.


I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years.  I 
think I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :)


T




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread Jeff Lane
Split second truce, just as question during the war lull, have any of you
that have Jim's phone number and/or address heard anything as of yet?

A picture is only worth 1000 words if it is not Photo Shopped

   Jeff 2013




I'm definitely never going to grow up!


Julian


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Anthony Q. Martin
amar...@charter.netwrote:

 I'm 54 going on 55.  Have no plans to grow up.  Flame war, anyone? :)

 Sent from my mobile device.

 On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote:

  On 3/21/13 1:24 PM, Al Anger wrote:
 
  Alex Lee wrote:
 
  jim graciously picked up the slack and has been maintaining the 
  list ever since; died down for a little bit but he resurrected it.
  I was lucky enough to hear about this list just after this point.
  Apologies for the times I ran my big mouth. Ever grateful for the 
  many helpful and creative, and inspiring ideas shared by all.
  Al
 
  Haha Ditto on the big mouth part, we all grow up sometime just took 
  me
 longer? :)
  This list is full of good people and good information, it is not 
  going
 anywhere.
 




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread DSinc

Thane,
Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' !
Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes.
Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO.
Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities.
So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor.
I do wish this 'Collective' survives.
Happy you have stuck around, personally.
Duncan

On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote:

At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

I'm 54 going on 55.  Have no plans to grow up.  Flame war, anyone? :)


Heh heh.  Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, and 
probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw stones 
about anyone here being a big mouth.  This list is, without question, 
the best mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to 
contribute to it.


I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years.  I 
think I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :)


T







Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread Julian Zottl
Damn, I thought I was an old one at 36 on this list... lol.


Julian


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:

 Thane,
 Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' !
 Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes.
 Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO.
 Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities.
 So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor.
 I do wish this 'Collective' survives.
 Happy you have stuck around, personally.
 Duncan


 On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote:

 At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

 I'm 54 going on 55.  Have no plans to grow up.  Flame war, anyone? :)


 Heh heh.  Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, and
 probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw stones about
 anyone here being a big mouth.  This list is, without question, the best
 mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to contribute to it.

 I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years.  I think
 I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :)

 T







Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Who's the oldest on the list?  I just turned 61 in Feb


On 3/21/2013 6:24 PM, Julian Zottl wrote:

Damn, I thought I was an old one at 36 on this list... lol.


Julian


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:


Thane,
Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' !
Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes.
Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO.
Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities.
So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor.
I do wish this 'Collective' survives.
Happy you have stuck around, personally.
Duncan


On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote:


At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:


I'm 54 going on 55.  Have no plans to grow up.  Flame war, anyone? :)


Heh heh.  Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, and
probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw stones about
anyone here being a big mouth.  This list is, without question, the best
mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to contribute to it.

I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years.  I think
I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :)

T








Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread Jeff Lane
I'll be 78 in June.

A picture is only worth 1000 words if it is not Photo Shopped

   Jeff 2013


Who's the oldest on the list?  I just turned 61 in Feb


On 3/21/2013 6:24 PM, Julian Zottl wrote:
 Damn, I thought I was an old one at 36 on this list... lol.

 
 Julian


 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:

 Thane,
 Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' !
 Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes.
 Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO.
 Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities.
 So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor.
 I do wish this 'Collective' survives.
 Happy you have stuck around, personally.
 Duncan


 On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote:

 At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

 I'm 54 going on 55.  Have no plans to grow up.  Flame war, anyone? 
 :)

 Heh heh.  Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes, 
 and probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw 
 stones about anyone here being a big mouth.  This list is, without 
 question, the best mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to
contribute to it.

 I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years.  I 
 think I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :)

 T







Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-21 Thread DSinc

I turned 65 this year (March). I feel happy with the List.
I do so know 'we' would all get older over time way back when.
I'm just happy that so many of us have stayed in the pool.
Duncan


On 03/21/2013 18:52, Jeff Lane wrote:

I'll be 78 in June.

A picture is only worth 1000 words if it is not Photo Shopped

Jeff 2013


Who's the oldest on the list?  I just turned 61 in Feb


On 3/21/2013 6:24 PM, Julian Zottl wrote:

Damn, I thought I was an old one at 36 on this list... lol.


Julian


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:


Thane,
Trust me, you are a pussy-cat in this 'meat-pit' !
Anthony can be tough. Hayes, isjust Hayes.
Only Lopaka knows how to deal with Hayes. JMHO.
Me? I choose NOT to badly with Hawaiian Deities.
So. Just park me as a 65yr old List survivor.
I do wish this 'Collective' survives.
Happy you have stuck around, personally.
Duncan


On 03/21/2013 13:41, Thane Sherrington wrote:


At 02:29 PM 21/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:


I'm 54 going on 55.  Have no plans to grow up.  Flame war, anyone?
:)


Heh heh.  Seeing has I have had major fights with Anthony, Hayes,
and probably most of the rest of the list, I certainly can't throw
stones about anyone here being a big mouth.  This list is, without
question, the best mailing list I've ever been on, and I'd be happy to

contribute to it.

I must say that Bryan and Anthony have mellowed over the years.  I
think I'm just as dislikable as ever though. :)

T










Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-19 Thread Alden Trull
I joined back in the Overclocker's era. Our computers and phones, today 
, would have been just a dream then. I've always been mostly a lurker 
and have learned so much from the discussions. I'm in a nursing home 
now, but would chip in as much as I can to continue this list. Thanks to 
all.


[H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Bryan Seiz

Collective,


  Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who pays 
for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end of this 
year, any info would be appreciated.


Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Julian Zottl
I haven't heard from Jim in ages :(


Julian


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Bryan Seiz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote:

 Collective,


   Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who pays
 for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end of this
 year, any info would be appreciated.



Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Bryan Seiz

On 3/18/2013 4:49 PM, Julian Zottl wrote:

I haven't heard from Jim in ages :(


Julian

I found his phone # which jives with his address that I used to know, 
maybe I'll give him a ring.


Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread FORC5

In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
Willing to donate.
fp

At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

Collective,


  Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who 
pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the 
end of this year, any info would be appreciated.





Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread DSinc

If that does not work, email me.
I have old phone and address for Jim that did work.
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 17:49, Bryan Seiz wrote:

On 3/18/2013 4:49 PM, Julian Zottl wrote:

I haven't heard from Jim in ages :(


Julian

I found his phone # which jives with his address that I used to know, 
maybe I'll give him a ring.






Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread DSinc

Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back,
I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund
this List/enterprise.
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:

In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
Willing to donate.
fp

At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

Collective,


  Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who 
pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end 
of this year, any info would be appreciated.








Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Resnick
I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy 
to contribute now.


Mike



At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:

Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back,
I am now awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund
this List/enterprise.
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:

In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
Willing to donate.
fp

At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

Collective,


  Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know 
who pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at 
the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.





__
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little 
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin 
Franklin, 1755)


Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Jeff Lane
I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks
that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As
an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all
too familiar with silence in a
groupJeff 


I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to
contribute now.

Mike



At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now 
awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this 
List/enterprise.
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
Willing to donate.
fp

At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
Collective,


   Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who 
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end 
 of this year, any info would be appreciated.



__
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)



Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;)


lopaka



From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM
Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

Hey Jeff,
A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but,
I continue to sharewith those that respond.
Thanks for your service!
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
 I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks
 that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As
 an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all
 too familiar with silence in a
 groupJeff


 I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to
 contribute now.

 Mike



 At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
 Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
 awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
 List/enterprise.
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
 In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
 Willing to donate.
 fp

 At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
 Collective,


Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end
 of this year, any info would be appreciated.

 __
 Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
 Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Brian Weeden
I'm good for chipping in too.

---
Brian Weeden
Secure World Foundation
+1 202 683-8534

On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;)
 
 
 lopaka
 
 
 
 From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
 
 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but,
 I continue to sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan
 
 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
 I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of folks
 that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. As
 an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all
 too familiar with silence in a
 groupJeff
 
 
 I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to
 contribute now.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
 Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
 awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
 List/enterprise.
 Duncan
 
 On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
 In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
 Willing to donate.
 fp
 
 At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
 Collective,
 
 
   Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end
 of this year, any info would be appreciated.
 __
 Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
 Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)
 
 


Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 08:01 PM 18/03/2013, DSinc wrote:

Hey Jeff,
A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but,
I continue to sharewith those that respond.


Waitasec!  I can block you?!?  How come nobody mentioned that before? :)

T 





Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Jeff Lane
That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated
it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit
to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily
just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
group..Jeff


Hey Jeff,
A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
sharewith those that respond.
Thanks for your service!
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
 I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of 
 folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break 
 it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean 
 vet I am all too familiar with silence in a 
 groupJeff


 I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy 
 to contribute now.

 Mike



 At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
 Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now 
 awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this 
 List/enterprise.
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
 In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
 Willing to donate.
 fp

 At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
 Collective,


Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who 
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the 
 end of this year, any info would be appreciated.

 __
 Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little 
 temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin 
 Franklin, 1755)





Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on
the list consider you a new member =)
On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:

 That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated
 it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit
 to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily
 just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
 group..Jeff


 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
 sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
  I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
  folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
  it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
  vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
  groupJeff
 
 
  I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
  to contribute now.
 
  Mike
 
 
 
  At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
  Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
  awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
  List/enterprise.
  Duncan
 
  On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
  In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
  Willing to donate.
  fp
 
  At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
  Collective,
 
 
 Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
  pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
  end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
 
  __
  Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
  temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
  Franklin, 1755)
 
 




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Jeff Lane
That makes me still in diapers, Chris. I joined early in the last
decade...:)..Jeff

You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on
the list consider you a new member =) 

On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:
 That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not 
 moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, 
 certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. 
 Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the 
 comes through the 
 group..Jeff


 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this 
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to 
 sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
  I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of 
  folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to 
  break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being 
  a Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a 
  groupJeff
 
 
  I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy 
  to contribute now.
 
  Mike
 
 
 
  At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
  Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now 
  awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this 
  List/enterprise.
  Duncan
 
  On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
  In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long
time.
  Willing to donate.
  fp
 
  At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
  Collective,
 
 
 Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know 
  who pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at 
  the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
 
  __
  Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little 
  temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin 
  Franklin, 1755)
 
 





Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread DSinc

Jeff,
Even as a 'lurker' you keep this list alive. As memory serves, you have 
dropped

enough thoughts, feelings, and questions over the years to be gold!
Yes. I do so know there are now many who only 'view' the digests.
Fine. I suspect many are still out there.
Heck! Many may have killed their 'digests.' I just do not worry about 
this...

any more...
Best,
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 19:08, Jeff Lane wrote:

That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated
it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit
to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily
just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
group..Jeff


Hey Jeff,
A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
sharewith those that respond.
Thanks for your service!
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:

I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
groupJeff


I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
to contribute now.

Mike



At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:

Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
List/enterprise.
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:

In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
Willing to donate.
fp

At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

Collective,


Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
end of this year, any info would be appreciated.

__
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
Franklin, 1755)








Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread DSinc

Chris,
And your point is ?
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 19:10, Christopher Fisk wrote:

You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on
the list consider you a new member =)
On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:


That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated
it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a credit
to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily
just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
group..Jeff


Hey Jeff,
A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
sharewith those that respond.
Thanks for your service!
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:

I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
groupJeff


I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
to contribute now.

Mike



At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:

Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
List/enterprise.
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:

In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
Willing to donate.
fp

At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

Collective,


Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
end of this year, any info would be appreciated.

__
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
Franklin, 1755)








Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread veech

I could PayPal a little something as well :)

I don't contribute much but I do enjoy lurking around.

Veech

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Weeden

Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:05 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Cc: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

I'm good for chipping in too.

---
Brian Weeden
Secure World Foundation
+1 202 683-8534

On Mar 18, 2013, at 19:04, Robert Martin Jr. lopaka_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Same here. Mostly lurking but still read the list mail ;)


lopaka



From: DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Mon, March 18, 2013 4:01:18 PM
Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

Hey Jeff,
A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but,
I continue to sharewith those that respond.
Thanks for your service!
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of 
folks
that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break it up. 
As

an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean vet I am all
too familiar with silence in a
groupJeff


I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy to
contribute now.

Mike



At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:

Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
List/enterprise.
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:

In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
Willing to donate.
fp

At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

Collective,


  Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the end
of this year, any info would be appreciated.

__
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little 
temporary

Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin Franklin, 1755)






Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
I was just reflecting on the list is all.  There are a few online
communities I was lucky enough to get in on in the early days.  Heck, I
have a 5 digit slashdot id. =)
On Mar 18, 2013 7:21 PM, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:

 Chris,
 And your point is ?
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 19:10, Christopher Fisk wrote:

 You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people
 on
 the list consider you a new member =)
 On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:

  That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not
 moderated
 it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a
 credit
 to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am
 primarily
 just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
 group.**.Jeff


 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
 sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:

 I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
 folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
 it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
 vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
 group.**...Jeff


 I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
 to contribute now.

 Mike



 At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:

 Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
 awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
 List/enterprise.
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:

 In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long
 time.
 Willing to donate.
 fp

 At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

 Collective,


 Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
 end of this year, any info would be appreciated.

 __**
 Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
 temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
 Franklin, 1755)







Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Greg Sevart
Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself...

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Fisk
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on
the list consider you a new member =)
On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:

 That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated
 it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a
credit
 to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily
 just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
 group..Jeff


 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
 sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
  I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
  folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
  it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
  vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
  groupJeff
 
 
  I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
  to contribute now.
 
  Mike
 
 
 
  At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
  Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
  awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
  List/enterprise.
  Duncan
 
  On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
  In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long
time.
  Willing to donate.
  fp
 
  At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
  Collective,
 
 
 Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
  pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
  end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
 
  __
  Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
  temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
  Franklin, 1755)
 
 






Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Thane Sherrington
I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined 
initially.  Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware?


T




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Bryan Seiz

On 3/18/2013 7:31 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote:
I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially.  
Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware?




I think that is right...I joined around the P200/233MMX days, I remember 
going to visit hayes anthony w/ Jim in DC haha!


Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Christopher Fisk
I went to one lan session thrown by Jim, but no clue when that was.
On Mar 18, 2013 7:36 PM, Bryan Seiz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote:

 On 3/18/2013 7:31 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote:

 I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially.  Maybe
 run by Tom of Tom's Hardware?


 I think that is right...I joined around the P200/233MMX days, I remember
 going to visit hayes anthony w/ Jim in DC haha!



Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread DSinc

Yes. True.
The Hardware Group started shortly after thatfrom my memory.
And, at the time, we (new list) focused on 
overclocking..initially... :)

Duncan

On 03/18/2013 19:31, Thane Sherrington wrote:
I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially.  
Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware?


T







Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Bryan Seiz

On 3/18/2013 7:42 PM, DSinc wrote:

Yes. True.
The Hardware Group started shortly after thatfrom my memory.
And, at the time, we (new list) focused on 
overclocking..initially... :)

Duncan


Speaking of the mailing list, Mailman 3.0 should be out soon :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3DRdFKW_E


Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Harry McGregor
Don't recall exactly when I joined, but it was in the mid to late 
1990s.  I remember the get together in Phx, that Kevin Lam decided to 
fly in for from .au


-Harry

On 3/18/13 4:36 PM, Bryan Seiz wrote:

On 3/18/2013 7:31 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote:
I recall there was list on overclocking that I joined initially.  
Maybe run by Tom of Tom's Hardware?




I think that is right...I joined around the P200/233MMX days, I 
remember going to visit hayes anthony w/ Jim in DC haha!




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Alex Lee
yes it is, i lurk more than ever now.

i remember the early days where hardwaregroup.org resided on a tower PC in
my dorm room, briefly as school admins gave me a stern talking to and
warning letter about hosting external sites. that letter is still somewhere
in one of my books in storage.  jim graciously picked up the slack and has
been maintaining the list ever since; died down for a little bit but he
resurrected it.

chris reeves still always around, i remember him being a chris wong due to
losing a bet to his wife.  other names like glasswolf no longer visible
here.  bryan seitz was a very opinionated younger man in his college days.
harry macgregor is/was a striking astute kid when he first joined too.
james boswell liked to rile up the conversations every now and again.

and for those that dont know, anand (yes, the anandtech.com) was briefly on
the list in the early days, he was probably no older than a teen then.

-alex / flush

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Christopher Fisk 
christopher.f...@thefisks.org wrote:

 You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on
 the list consider you a new member =)
 On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:

  That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not
 moderated
  it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a
 credit
  to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am
 primarily
  just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
  group..Jeff
 
 
  Hey Jeff,
  A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
  HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
  sharewith those that respond.
  Thanks for your service!
  Duncan
 
  On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
   I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
   folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
   it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
   vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
   groupJeff
  
  
   I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
   to contribute now.
  
   Mike
  
  
  
   At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
   Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
   awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
   List/enterprise.
   Duncan
  
   On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
   In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long
 time.
   Willing to donate.
   fp
  
   At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
   Collective,
  
  
  Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
   pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
   end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
  
   __
   Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
   temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
   Franklin, 1755)
  
  
 
 



Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Jeff Lane
Hmyour thoughts are very nice, Duncan, but you have to be thinking
of someone else that know is knowledgeable, certainly not deserved
here.Jeff:)


Jeff,
Even as a 'lurker' you keep this list alive. As memory serves, you have
dropped enough thoughts, feelings, and questions over the years to be gold!
Yes. I do so know there are now many who only 'view' the digests.
Fine. I suspect many are still out there.
Heck! Many may have killed their 'digests.' I just do not worry about
this...
any more...
Best,
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 19:08, Jeff Lane wrote:
 That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not 
 moderated it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, 
 certainly, is a credit to our members. I hope we can keep it together. 
 Even though I am primarily just a lurker, I do read everything the 
 comes through the 
 group..Jeff


 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this 
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to 
 sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
 I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of 
 folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to 
 break it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a 
 Korean vet I am all too familiar with silence in a 
 groupJeff


 I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy 
 to contribute now.

 Mike



 At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
 Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now 
 awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this 
 List/enterprise.
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
 In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long time.
 Willing to donate.
 fp

 At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
 Collective,


 Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know 
 who pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at 
 the end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
 __
 Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little 
 temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin 
 Franklin, 1755)






Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about 
'95.  I don't have any emails going back that far.  I remember being on 
the list when the first MMX processors were released.  As luck would 
have it, the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel 
multiplier-locked and I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang!


On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:

Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself...

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Fisk
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on
the list consider you a new member =)
On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:


That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated
it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a

credit

to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily
just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
group..Jeff


Hey Jeff,
A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
sharewith those that respond.
Thanks for your service!
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:

I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
groupJeff


I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
to contribute now.

Mike



At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:

Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
List/enterprise.
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:

In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long

time.

Willing to donate.
fp

At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

Collective,


Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
end of this year, any info would be appreciated.

__
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
Franklin, 1755)










Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Brian Weeden
Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days.  We've gone from 
scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on 
overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a 
commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the 
applications.  

The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a 
Celeron are way past.  

---
Brian Weeden

On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95.  
 I don't have any emails going back that far.  I remember being on the list 
 when the first MMX processors were released.  As luck would have it, the 
 P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was 
 one of the first to get a locked version, dang!
 
 On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:
 Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
 Fisk
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
 
 You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on
 the list consider you a new member =)
 On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated
 it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a
 credit
 to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily
 just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
 group..Jeff
 
 
 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
 sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan
 
 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
 I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
 folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
 it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
 vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
 groupJeff
 
 
 I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
 to contribute now.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
 Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
 awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
 List/enterprise.
 Duncan
 
 On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
 In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long
 time.
 Willing to donate.
 fp
 
 At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
 Collective,
 
 
Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
 end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
 __
 Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
 temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
 Franklin, 1755)
 


Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Greg Sevart
SSDs were/are the about the last meaningful upgrade.

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:54 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Cc: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days.  We've gone from
scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on
overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers
being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the
applications.  

The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking
a Celeron are way past.  

---
Brian Weeden




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I definitely agree.  I used to upgrade every year, now my newest rig is 
2 generations behind.  I don't game as much, but it seems to me that the 
top games these days are hard work.  Games like Doom  Quake used to be fun.


On 3/18/2013 8:54 PM, Brian Weeden wrote:

Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days.  We've gone from 
scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on 
overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers being a 
commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the 
applications.

The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking a 
Celeron are way past.

---
Brian Weeden

On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote:


I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about '95.  I 
don't have any emails going back that far.  I remember being on the list when 
the first MMX processors were released.  As luck would have it, the P166MMX (I 
think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and I was one of the 
first to get a locked version, dang!

On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:

Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself...

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Fisk
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on
the list consider you a new member =)
On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:


That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated
it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a

credit

to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily
just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
group..Jeff


Hey Jeff,
A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
sharewith those that respond.
Thanks for your service!
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:

I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
groupJeff


I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
to contribute now.

Mike



At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:

Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
List/enterprise.
Duncan

On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:

In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long

time.

Willing to donate.
fp

At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

Collective,


Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
end of this year, any info would be appreciated.

__
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
Franklin, 1755)




Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Brian Weeden
The best gaming experience I've had in the last few years was when I discovered 
Minecraft a few days ago, which is far from demanding as far as hardware is 
concerned.

Work and sleep is another matter entirely :)

---
Brian Weeden

On Mar 18, 2013, at 21:17, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote:

 I definitely agree.  I used to upgrade every year, now my newest rig is 2 
 generations behind.  I don't game as much, but it seems to me that the top 
 games these days are hard work.  Games like Doom  Quake used to be fun.
 
 On 3/18/2013 8:54 PM, Brian Weeden wrote:
 Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days.  We've gone from 
 scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips on 
 overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers 
 being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the 
 applications.
 
 The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by overclocking 
 a Celeron are way past.
 
 ---
 Brian Weeden
 
 On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about 
 '95.  I don't have any emails going back that far.  I remember being on the 
 list when the first MMX processors were released.  As luck would have it, 
 the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and 
 I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang!
 
 On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:
 Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
 Fisk
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards
 
 You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of people on
 the list consider you a new member =)
 On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not moderated
 it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a
 credit
 to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am primarily
 just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
 group..Jeff
 
 
 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
 sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan
 
 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:
 I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
 folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
 it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
 vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
 groupJeff
 
 
 I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
 to contribute now.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:
 Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
 awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
 List/enterprise.
 Duncan
 
 On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:
 In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long
 time.
 Willing to donate.
 fp
 
 At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:
 Collective,
 
 
Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know who
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
 end of this year, any info would be appreciated.
 __
 Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
 temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
 Franklin, 1755)
 


Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

2013-03-18 Thread Julian Zottl
lol, I've been a member since it was the tom's overclocking list, lol.  I
think I joined somewhere around 1995/6.

Sabre (Julian)


Julian


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.comwrote:

 I definitely agree.  I used to upgrade every year, now my newest rig is 2
 generations behind.  I don't game as much, but it seems to me that the top
 games these days are hard work.  Games like Doom  Quake used to be fun.


 On 3/18/2013 8:54 PM, Brian Weeden wrote:

 Face it, computing has changed a lot since those days.  We've gone from
 scouring Computer Shopper for the best deals on hardware and sharing tips
 on overclocking so we can squeeze out the maximum performance to computers
 being a commodity where speed and power is effectively far outstripping the
 applications.

 The days where you could effectively double your horsepower by
 overclocking a Celeron are way past.

 ---
 Brian Weeden

 On Mar 18, 2013, at 20:35, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote:

  I know I missed the really early days, but I thought I had joined about
 '95.  I don't have any emails going back that far.  I remember being on the
 list when the first MMX processors were released.  As luck would have it,
 the P166MMX (I think!) was the first chip that Intel multiplier-locked and
 I was one of the first to get a locked version, dang!

 On 3/18/2013 7:29 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:

 Looks like I joined in June of 1998 myself...

 -Original Message-
 From: 
 hardware-bounces@lists.**hardwaregroup.comhardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-bounces@**lists.hardwaregroup.comhardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com]
 On Behalf Of Christopher
 Fisk
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:10 PM
 To: hardware@lists.hardwaregroup.**comhardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] List info / Jim Edwards

 You know a list is old when you joined in '98 and the majority of
 people on
 the list consider you a new member =)
 On Mar 18, 2013 7:08 PM, Jeff Lane jeff.l...@comcast.net wrote:

  That pretty well sums it up, Duncan. Being that this list is not
 moderated
 it is the most civil one I have ever been on, which, certainly, is a

 credit

 to our members. I hope we can keep it together. Even though I am
 primarily
 just a lurker, I do read everything the comes through the
 group.**.Jeff


 Hey Jeff,
 A bunch of us 'oldsters' are still alive and bitchin' on this
 HardwareGroup list. I could be blocked by many, but, I continue to
 sharewith those that respond.
 Thanks for your service!
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:50, Jeff Lane wrote:

 I haven't either, but would be willing to. This is the best bunch of
 folks that I have on all my tech lists and sure wouldn't want to break
 it up. As an aside, though, I certainly hope Jim is ok. Being a Korean
 vet I am all too familiar with silence in a
 group.**...Jeff


 I have not donated anything in the past, but will be more than happy
 to contribute now.

 Mike



 At 06:16 PM 3/18/2013, DSinc wrote:

 Yes, Me too! According to my schedule from waay back, I am now
 awhole lot in the 'non-payment' list!  Still willing to fund this
 List/enterprise.
 Duncan

 On 03/18/2013 18:02, FORC5 wrote:

 In the past I have made donations to the list but has been a long

 time.

 Willing to donate.
 fp

 At 01:46 PM 3/18/2013, Bryan Seiz Poked the stick with:

 Collective,


 Has anyone seen or heard from Jim lately ?  Does anyone know
 who
 pays for and runs the list ?  The domain is set to expire at the
 end of this year, any info would be appreciated.

 __**
 Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
 temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Benjamin
 Franklin, 1755)