Re: [hexayurt] Re: Bending Rebar

2017-07-14 Thread Brian Evans 
The jack is for rebar removal, not for bending.  I just use a pickaxe
though. I love my tight bend 1/2" rebar. But I use a forge and a jig to
make it. Not everyone is a welder or blacksmith. Lags seem pretty sweet.

On Jul 14, 2017 3:31 PM, "Steve Upstill"  wrote:

> As for a 12V drill, I would try it, esp. if I had a ratchet or box wrench
> handy to overcome static friction in the event. If it doesn't work, it's
> not like you won't have neighbors on-Playa.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:30 PM Steve Upstill  wrote:
>
>> Yep, plain ole Home Depot 18V Ryobi rechargeable drill. We used something
>> like 1/4" or 3/8" zinc lag screws
>> ,
>> 12" long. They were so goddamn firm in the ground that I concluded 10"
>> would work fine.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:31 PM Paul Crowley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve - just a rechargeable drill? Not an impact driver? Wondering
>>> whether my 12V drill would do it - or maybe a combination of that and a
>>> ratchet.
>>>
>>> On 14 July 2017 at 12:08, Steve Upstill  wrote:
>>>
 Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Last year I drove and removed 50+ lag
 bolts with my 18V rechargeable drill, along with many other demands on the
 drill, without even going to my spare battery.

 Cost: about $1.20 each, plus about $.15 for chain. Effort/annoyance
 saved: priceless. Every person who has seen lag bolts being
 installed/removed, if they've ever touched rebar, has had an enlightenment
 experience.

 I'm never going back to rebar.

 On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:38 AM Oz  wrote:

> I just use 2  5 foot lengths of gas pipe with coupling fittings
> threaded to the ends to minimize damage to the pipe. The first bend starts
> with the pipes flush, then I move them about an inch apart to complete the
> nearly perfect U bend. When the rebar is driven, the two legs give you
> immediate stability, the legs spread for more gripping power, and the 
> rebar
> is flush to the playa for no tripping/ripping damage to altered hippies. A
> little digging with a claw hammer and a few lateral pounds and the rebar
> comes right up.
>
> I've been using this system for 15+ burns with no issues. Some years
> you do have to move the loose playa out of the way to get to the hard 
> pack.
> I know this isn't as sexy as lag bolts, but it's cheap and has no power
> requirements.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:09 AM, ken winston caine <
> ken.winston.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Was really impressed with this suggestion back in 2010. Commented as
>> much then, so I must have understood what KrazyKorny meant. But today I 
>> am
>> staring at a bunch of 2' long pieces of 3/8" rebar wondering how I am 
>> going
>> to use a bumper jack to bend them to form hooks on one end?
>>
>> Can anyone explain?
>>
>> Or is there an even better way to make the bends?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, July 31, 2010 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-6, KrazyKyngeKorny wrote:
>>>
>>> Two lengths of pipe will facilitate bending the bar.
>>>
>>> A bumper jack will make it easy to pull the "U"s.
>>>
>>> KrazyKorny (Krazy, not stupid)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:06 PM, ken winston caine <
>>> k...@mindbodyspiritjournal.com> wrote:
>>>
 Two things:


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Re: [hexayurt] Re: Bending Rebar

2017-07-14 Thread Steve Upstill 
As for a 12V drill, I would try it, esp. if I had a ratchet or box wrench
handy to overcome static friction in the event. If it doesn't work, it's
not like you won't have neighbors on-Playa.


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:30 PM Steve Upstill  wrote:

> Yep, plain ole Home Depot 18V Ryobi rechargeable drill. We used something
> like 1/4" or 3/8" zinc lag screws
> ,
> 12" long. They were so goddamn firm in the ground that I concluded 10"
> would work fine.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:31 PM Paul Crowley  wrote:
>
>> Steve - just a rechargeable drill? Not an impact driver? Wondering
>> whether my 12V drill would do it - or maybe a combination of that and a
>> ratchet.
>>
>> On 14 July 2017 at 12:08, Steve Upstill  wrote:
>>
>>> Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Last year I drove and removed 50+ lag
>>> bolts with my 18V rechargeable drill, along with many other demands on the
>>> drill, without even going to my spare battery.
>>>
>>> Cost: about $1.20 each, plus about $.15 for chain. Effort/annoyance
>>> saved: priceless. Every person who has seen lag bolts being
>>> installed/removed, if they've ever touched rebar, has had an enlightenment
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> I'm never going back to rebar.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:38 AM Oz  wrote:
>>>
 I just use 2  5 foot lengths of gas pipe with coupling fittings
 threaded to the ends to minimize damage to the pipe. The first bend starts
 with the pipes flush, then I move them about an inch apart to complete the
 nearly perfect U bend. When the rebar is driven, the two legs give you
 immediate stability, the legs spread for more gripping power, and the rebar
 is flush to the playa for no tripping/ripping damage to altered hippies. A
 little digging with a claw hammer and a few lateral pounds and the rebar
 comes right up.

 I've been using this system for 15+ burns with no issues. Some years
 you do have to move the loose playa out of the way to get to the hard pack.
 I know this isn't as sexy as lag bolts, but it's cheap and has no power
 requirements.

 On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:09 AM, ken winston caine <
 ken.winston.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Was really impressed with this suggestion back in 2010. Commented as
> much then, so I must have understood what KrazyKorny meant. But today I am
> staring at a bunch of 2' long pieces of 3/8" rebar wondering how I am 
> going
> to use a bumper jack to bend them to form hooks on one end?
>
> Can anyone explain?
>
> Or is there an even better way to make the bends?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2010 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-6, KrazyKyngeKorny wrote:
>>
>> Two lengths of pipe will facilitate bending the bar.
>>
>> A bumper jack will make it easy to pull the "U"s.
>>
>> KrazyKorny (Krazy, not stupid)
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:06 PM, ken winston caine <
>> k...@mindbodyspiritjournal.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Two things:
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [hexayurt] Re: Bending Rebar

2017-07-14 Thread Paul Crowley 
Steve - just a rechargeable drill? Not an impact driver? Wondering whether
my 12V drill would do it - or maybe a combination of that and a ratchet.

On 14 July 2017 at 12:08, Steve Upstill  wrote:

> Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Last year I drove and removed 50+ lag
> bolts with my 18V rechargeable drill, along with many other demands on the
> drill, without even going to my spare battery.
>
> Cost: about $1.20 each, plus about $.15 for chain. Effort/annoyance saved:
> priceless. Every person who has seen lag bolts being installed/removed, if
> they've ever touched rebar, has had an enlightenment experience.
>
> I'm never going back to rebar.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:38 AM Oz  wrote:
>
>> I just use 2  5 foot lengths of gas pipe with coupling fittings threaded
>> to the ends to minimize damage to the pipe. The first bend starts with the
>> pipes flush, then I move them about an inch apart to complete the nearly
>> perfect U bend. When the rebar is driven, the two legs give you immediate
>> stability, the legs spread for more gripping power, and the rebar is flush
>> to the playa for no tripping/ripping damage to altered hippies. A little
>> digging with a claw hammer and a few lateral pounds and the rebar comes
>> right up.
>>
>> I've been using this system for 15+ burns with no issues. Some years you
>> do have to move the loose playa out of the way to get to the hard pack. I
>> know this isn't as sexy as lag bolts, but it's cheap and has no power
>> requirements.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:09 AM, ken winston caine <
>> ken.winston.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Was really impressed with this suggestion back in 2010. Commented as
>>> much then, so I must have understood what KrazyKorny meant. But today I am
>>> staring at a bunch of 2' long pieces of 3/8" rebar wondering how I am going
>>> to use a bumper jack to bend them to form hooks on one end?
>>>
>>> Can anyone explain?
>>>
>>> Or is there an even better way to make the bends?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 31, 2010 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-6, KrazyKyngeKorny wrote:

 Two lengths of pipe will facilitate bending the bar.

 A bumper jack will make it easy to pull the "U"s.

 KrazyKorny (Krazy, not stupid)

 On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:06 PM, ken winston caine <
 k...@mindbodyspiritjournal.com> wrote:

> Two things:
>
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[hexayurt] Re: Bending Rebar

2017-07-14 Thread ken winston caine 
Was really impressed with this suggestion back in 2010. Commented as much 
then, so I must have understood what KrazyKorny meant. But today I am 
staring at a bunch of 2' long pieces of 3/8" rebar wondering how I am going 
to use a bumper jack to bend them to form hooks on one end?

Can anyone explain?

Or is there an even better way to make the bends?

Thanks.




On Saturday, July 31, 2010 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-6, KrazyKyngeKorny wrote:
>
> Two lengths of pipe will facilitate bending the bar.
>
> A bumper jack will make it easy to pull the "U"s.
>
> KrazyKorny (Krazy, not stupid)
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:06 PM, ken winston caine <
> k...@mindbodyspiritjournal.com > wrote:
>
>> Two things:
>>  
>>
>
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Re: [hexayurt] Re: Bending Rebar

2017-07-14 Thread Oz 
I just use 2  5 foot lengths of gas pipe with coupling fittings threaded to
the ends to minimize damage to the pipe. The first bend starts with the
pipes flush, then I move them about an inch apart to complete the nearly
perfect U bend. When the rebar is driven, the two legs give you immediate
stability, the legs spread for more gripping power, and the rebar is flush
to the playa for no tripping/ripping damage to altered hippies. A little
digging with a claw hammer and a few lateral pounds and the rebar comes
right up.

I've been using this system for 15+ burns with no issues. Some years you do
have to move the loose playa out of the way to get to the hard pack. I know
this isn't as sexy as lag bolts, but it's cheap and has no power
requirements.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:09 AM, ken winston caine <
ken.winston.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Was really impressed with this suggestion back in 2010. Commented as much
> then, so I must have understood what KrazyKorny meant. But today I am
> staring at a bunch of 2' long pieces of 3/8" rebar wondering how I am going
> to use a bumper jack to bend them to form hooks on one end?
>
> Can anyone explain?
>
> Or is there an even better way to make the bends?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2010 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-6, KrazyKyngeKorny wrote:
>>
>> Two lengths of pipe will facilitate bending the bar.
>>
>> A bumper jack will make it easy to pull the "U"s.
>>
>> KrazyKorny (Krazy, not stupid)
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:06 PM, ken winston caine <
>> k...@mindbodyspiritjournal.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Two things:
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [hexayurt] Re: Bending Rebar

2017-07-14 Thread ken winston caine 
The jack is for removing. Of course! Now I know why I thought that was
brilliant.

On Jul 14, 2017 4:55 PM, "hal muskat"  wrote:

> ricky
>
> thinking of doing this at least for about half the ones you guys set up.
> What you think?
>
> Greg has one drill. I can borrow Tony’s for the week . .
>
> Might get another . . .
>
> Your thoughts?
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Steve Upstill  wrote:
>
> Yep, plain ole Home Depot 18V Ryobi rechargeable drill. We used something
> like 1/4" or 3/8" zinc lag screws
> ,
> 12" long. They were so goddamn firm in the ground that I concluded 10"
> would work fine.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:31 PM Paul Crowley  wrote:
>
>> Steve - just a rechargeable drill? Not an impact driver? Wondering
>> whether my 12V drill would do it - or maybe a combination of that and a
>> ratchet.
>>
>> On 14 July 2017 at 12:08, Steve Upstill  wrote:
>>
>>> Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Last year I drove and removed 50+ lag
>>> bolts with my 18V rechargeable drill, along with many other demands on the
>>> drill, without even going to my spare battery.
>>>
>>> Cost: about $1.20 each, plus about $.15 for chain. Effort/annoyance
>>> saved: priceless. Every person who has seen lag bolts being
>>> installed/removed, if they've ever touched rebar, has had an enlightenment
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> I'm never going back to rebar.
>>>
>>
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Re: [hexayurt] Re: Bending Rebar

2017-07-14 Thread ken winston caine 
And now I know why I couldn't remember how -- or make any sense out of how
--  a farm jack would help me bend rebar.

On Jul 14, 2017 8:01 PM, "ken winston caine" 
wrote:

The jack is for removing. Of course! Now I know why I thought that was
brilliant.

On Jul 14, 2017 4:55 PM, "hal muskat"  wrote:

> ricky
>
> thinking of doing this at least for about half the ones you guys set up.
> What you think?
>
> Greg has one drill. I can borrow Tony’s for the week . .
>
> Might get another . . .
>
> Your thoughts?
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Steve Upstill  wrote:
>
> Yep, plain ole Home Depot 18V Ryobi rechargeable drill. We used something
> like 1/4" or 3/8" zinc lag screws
> ,
> 12" long. They were so goddamn firm in the ground that I concluded 10"
> would work fine.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:31 PM Paul Crowley  wrote:
>
>> Steve - just a rechargeable drill? Not an impact driver? Wondering
>> whether my 12V drill would do it - or maybe a combination of that and a
>> ratchet.
>>
>> On 14 July 2017 at 12:08, Steve Upstill  wrote:
>>
>>> Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Lag bolts! Last year I drove and removed 50+ lag
>>> bolts with my 18V rechargeable drill, along with many other demands on the
>>> drill, without even going to my spare battery.
>>>
>>> Cost: about $1.20 each, plus about $.15 for chain. Effort/annoyance
>>> saved: priceless. Every person who has seen lag bolts being
>>> installed/removed, if they've ever touched rebar, has had an enlightenment
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> I'm never going back to rebar.
>>>
>>
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