Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
There was, around that time period, the Outlook preview pane bug where it'd run script code from an iframe, if I recall correctly. At 2006/08/02 02:31 PM, Nick wrote: On 8/2/06, Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Wasn't the 2004 HL2 source leaked due a bug in Outlook? I use gmail and threads work perfect for me. I setup my own filter in gmail so i can sort them easily. about the leak, i think it involved something about outlook exploit and a hacked version of pcanywhere? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Ooooh, oooh, oooh! Can I say it please? please? Fucken' A! Ta! It'll be ready when it's ready. :) On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:04 +1000, Wraiyth wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I know its only Tuesday, but do we have an updated ETA for the release Mike? Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Smart arse ;) On 8/2/06, Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooooh, oooh, oooh! Can I say it please? please? Fucken' A! Ta! It'll be ready when it's ready. :) On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 17:04 +1000, Wraiyth wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I know its only Tuesday, but do we have an updated ETA for the release Mike? Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) http://wraiyth.freesuperhost.com NightFall HL2 Mod - http://nightfall.nigredostudios.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Very soon. I worked through the last bug that I've found yesterday and we're doing just a bit more testing before updating Steam. I'll let the list know as soon as I have more news. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wraiyth Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:05 AM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I know its only Tuesday, but do we have an updated ETA for the release Mike? Matt On 8/1/06, Rob Lach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] take your time, if you guys are having problems, sort em out before you guys release it. Oi, Rober Pierog Lach On 7/31/06, Steve Rabouin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Maybe this will help you, tho if you haven't done this already, I'd wait for the SDK update, maybe they've done all the work for you.. http://articles.thewavelength.net/702/ On 7/31/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you enable spectators? On 7/31/06, Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Well, the code already has all code. You just need to enable spectators, what they did. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) http://wraiyth.freesuperhost.com NightFall HL2 Mod - http://nightfall.nigredostudios.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Mike Durand wrote: Very soon. I worked through the last bug that I've found yesterday and we're doing just a bit more testing before updating Steam. I'll let the list know as soon as I have more news. -Mike OT question: Are you guys required to use Outlook or something? Every post I've ever seen to this list from Valve has been with Outlook, and it always screws up the thread groups. I find it rather humorous that Valve uses GNU Mailman for their mailing list, a software bundle that tries to intricately to handle thread groups well, and then turns around and uses Outlook to trample all over them :P -- Jorge Vino Rodriguez ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Jorge Rodriguez wrote: Are you guys required to use Outlook or something? Every post I've ever seen to this list from Valve has been with Outlook, and it always screws up the thread groups. I find it rather humorous that Valve uses GNU Mailman for their mailing list, a software bundle that tries to intricately to handle thread groups well, and then turns around and uses Outlook to trample all over them :P Threaded view works fine for me in Thunderbird. What mail client are you using? -- Jeffrey botman Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Jeffrey botman Broome wrote: Jorge Rodriguez wrote: Are you guys required to use Outlook or something? Every post I've ever seen to this list from Valve has been with Outlook, and it always screws up the thread groups. I find it rather humorous that Valve uses GNU Mailman for their mailing list, a software bundle that tries to intricately to handle thread groups well, and then turns around and uses Outlook to trample all over them :P Threaded view works fine for me in Thunderbird. What mail client are you using? Thunderbird 1.5.0.5. Every time a Valvee replies, it shows as a reply to the person who started the thread, as opposed to the person whom the Valvee obviously meant to reply to. -- Jorge Vino Rodriguez ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Are you guys required to use Outlook or something? Every post I've ever seen to this list from Valve has been with Outlook, and it always screws up the thread groups. I find it rather humorous that Valve uses GNU Mailman for their mailing list, a software bundle that tries to intricately to handle thread groups well, and then turns around and uses Outlook to trample all over them :P Are you sure its not because he just replied to another post and changed the subject and then sent his SDK Release notification? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Still OT: Threading involving Valve employees works fine in Gmail as well. On 8/2/06, Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys required to use Outlook or something? Every post I've ever seen to this list from Valve has been with Outlook, and it always screws up the thread groups. I find it rather humorous that Valve uses GNU Mailman for their mailing list, a software bundle that tries to intricately to handle thread groups well, and then turns around and uses Outlook to trample all over them :P Are you sure its not because he just replied to another post and changed the subject and then sent his SDK Release notification? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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It works for me too in Outlook. (yeah, we have to use it) But the archive does show the thread as being broken whenever I post to it. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlcoders/2006-August/threa d.html I'll see if there's some Outlook setting I can change to prevent this from happening. After the SDK is done, of course. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Jorge. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey botman Broome Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:22 AM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Jorge Rodriguez wrote: Are you guys required to use Outlook or something? Every post I've ever seen to this list from Valve has been with Outlook, and it always screws up the thread groups. I find it rather humorous that Valve uses GNU Mailman for their mailing list, a software bundle that tries to intricately to handle thread groups well, and then turns around and uses Outlook to trample all over them :P Threaded view works fine for me in Thunderbird. What mail client are you using? -- Jeffrey botman Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I would almost say.. let us test.. but if you do that, you have problaby some folks screaming at you. Still, if it's released as a seperated SDK, there shouldn't be many problems. Just promise me that this time you fix the SDK tools when the fix is available.. instead of waiting couple of months. (* talks to Valve in particular) On 8/2/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very soon. I worked through the last bug that I've found yesterday and we're doing just a bit more testing before updating Steam. I'll let the list know as soon as I have more news. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wraiyth Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:05 AM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I know its only Tuesday, but do we have an updated ETA for the release Mike? Matt On 8/1/06, Rob Lach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] take your time, if you guys are having problems, sort em out before you guys release it. Oi, Rober Pierog Lach On 7/31/06, Steve Rabouin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Maybe this will help you, tho if you haven't done this already, I'd wait for the SDK update, maybe they've done all the work for you.. http://articles.thewavelength.net/702/ On 7/31/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you enable spectators? On 7/31/06, Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Well, the code already has all code. You just need to enable spectators, what they did. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) http://wraiyth.freesuperhost.com NightFall HL2 Mod - http://nightfall.nigredostudios.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Wasn't the 2004 HL2 source leaked due a bug in Outlook? On 8/2/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works for me too in Outlook. (yeah, we have to use it) But the archive does show the thread as being broken whenever I post to it. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlcoders/2006-August/threa d.html I'll see if there's some Outlook setting I can change to prevent this from happening. After the SDK is done, of course. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Jorge. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey botman Broome Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:22 AM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Jorge Rodriguez wrote: Are you guys required to use Outlook or something? Every post I've ever seen to this list from Valve has been with Outlook, and it always screws up the thread groups. I find it rather humorous that Valve uses GNU Mailman for their mailing list, a software bundle that tries to intricately to handle thread groups well, and then turns around and uses Outlook to trample all over them :P Threaded view works fine for me in Thunderbird. What mail client are you using? -- Jeffrey botman Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Jorge Rodriguez wrote: Jeffrey botman Broome wrote: Jorge Rodriguez wrote: Are you guys required to use Outlook or something? Every post I've ever seen to this list from Valve has been with Outlook, and it always screws up the thread groups. I find it rather humorous that Valve uses GNU Mailman for their mailing list, a software bundle that tries to intricately to handle thread groups well, and then turns around and uses Outlook to trample all over them :P Threaded view works fine for me in Thunderbird. What mail client are you using? Thunderbird 1.5.0.5. Every time a Valvee replies, it shows as a reply to the person who started the thread, as opposed to the person whom the Valvee obviously meant to reply to. Just so nobody thinks I'm crazy: http://vinoisnotouzo.com/threads.png I've highlighted the post that Mike made and the post he responded to. I've seen this behavior with all Valvee's, but only with Valvee's. Maybe I'm a freak of nature? -- Jorge Vino Rodriguez ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Mike Durand wrote: It works for me too in Outlook. (yeah, we have to use it) But the archive does show the thread as being broken whenever I post to it. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlcoders/2006-August/thread.html I'll see if there's some Outlook setting I can change to prevent this from happening. After the SDK is done, of course. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Jorge. -Mike Oh good, I'm not crazy. Sorry for distracting you. -- Jorge Vino Rodriguez ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I laughed really really hard when I read this. :P On 8/2/06, Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Wasn't the 2004 HL2 source leaked due a bug in Outlook? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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I'm pretty sure they keep everything up to date now :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robbie Groenewoudt Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:44 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Wasn't the 2004 HL2 source leaked due a bug in Outlook? On 8/2/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works for me too in Outlook. (yeah, we have to use it) But the archive does show the thread as being broken whenever I post to it. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlcoders/2006-August/thr ea d.html I'll see if there's some Outlook setting I can change to prevent this from happening. After the SDK is done, of course. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Jorge. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey botman Broome Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:22 AM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Jorge Rodriguez wrote: Are you guys required to use Outlook or something? Every post I've ever seen to this list from Valve has been with Outlook, and it always screws up the thread groups. I find it rather humorous that Valve uses GNU Mailman for their mailing list, a software bundle that tries to intricately to handle thread groups well, and then turns around and uses Outlook to trample all over them :P Threaded view works fine for me in Thunderbird. What mail client are you using? -- Jeffrey botman Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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On 8/2/06, Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Wasn't the 2004 HL2 source leaked due a bug in Outlook? I use gmail and threads work perfect for me. I setup my own filter in gmail so i can sort them easily. about the leak, i think it involved something about outlook exploit and a hacked version of pcanywhere? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm probably going to manually transfer everything... boy will that be the worst weekend of my life... but it is a great way to do some housekeeping. Oi, On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks. Regards, Thomas - Original Message From: Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I doubt there are (many) bugs in the new SDK-code. Valve will be releasing new code so you will have to implement it into your mod and you won't notice much until you do. On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Only 37 replies.. this is going well. I assume the new code has also the current HL2DM-code. I hope that from now on, each time HL2DM is updated, its code at the SDK is too. Robbie On 7/31/06, Ryan Sheffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I cant wait, we are in real need of a code update. On 7/31/06, Rob Lach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm probably going to manually transfer everything... boy will that be the worst weekend of my life... but it is a great way to do some housekeeping. Oi, On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks. Regards, Thomas - Original Message From: Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I doubt there are (many) bugs in the new SDK-code. Valve will be releasing new code so you will have to implement it into your mod and you won't notice much until you do. On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ~skidz -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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I was wondering if the spectate was going to be included in the hl2dm update? if you really have no idea what I am talking about: http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=newsid=710 On 7/31/06, Ryan Sheffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I cant wait, we are in real need of a code update. On 7/31/06, Rob Lach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm probably going to manually transfer everything... boy will that be the worst weekend of my life... but it is a great way to do some housekeeping. Oi, On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks. Regards, Thomas - Original Message From: Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I doubt there are (many) bugs in the new SDK-code. Valve will be releasing new code so you will have to implement it into your mod and you won't notice much until you do. On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ~skidz -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Well, the code already has all code. You just need to enable spectators, what they did. On 7/31/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if the spectate was going to be included in the hl2dm update? if you really have no idea what I am talking about: http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=newsid=710 On 7/31/06, Ryan Sheffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I cant wait, we are in real need of a code update. On 7/31/06, Rob Lach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm probably going to manually transfer everything... boy will that be the worst weekend of my life... but it is a great way to do some housekeeping. Oi, On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks. Regards, Thomas - Original Message From: Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I doubt there are (many) bugs in the new SDK-code. Valve will be releasing new code so you will have to implement it into your mod and you won't notice much until you do. On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ~skidz -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
How do you enalbe spectators? On 7/31/06, Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Well, the code already has all code. You just need to enable spectators, what they did. On 7/31/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if the spectate was going to be included in the hl2dm update? if you really have no idea what I am talking about: http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=newsid=710 On 7/31/06, Ryan Sheffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I cant wait, we are in real need of a code update. On 7/31/06, Rob Lach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm probably going to manually transfer everything... boy will that be the worst weekend of my life... but it is a great way to do some housekeeping. Oi, On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks. Regards, Thomas - Original Message From: Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I doubt there are (many) bugs in the new SDK-code. Valve will be releasing new code so you will have to implement it into your mod and you won't notice much until you do. On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ~skidz -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm pretty sure that first person dosen't work right. I just enabled spectator and even free roam didn't work right. The camera was acting like the ragdoll deathcam, oddly. I had to play around with it quite a bit to get that working, and ended up just disabling the other modes. On 7/31/06, Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Well, the code already has all code. You just need to enable spectators, what they did. On 7/31/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if the spectate was going to be included in the hl2dm update? if you really have no idea what I am talking about: http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=newsid=710 On 7/31/06, Ryan Sheffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I cant wait, we are in real need of a code update. On 7/31/06, Rob Lach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm probably going to manually transfer everything... boy will that be the worst weekend of my life... but it is a great way to do some housekeeping. Oi, On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks. Regards, Thomas - Original Message From: Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I doubt there are (many) bugs in the new SDK-code. Valve will be releasing new code so you will have to implement it into your mod and you won't notice much until you do. On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ~skidz -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Maybe this will help you, tho if you haven't done this already, I'd wait for the SDK update, maybe they've done all the work for you.. http://articles.thewavelength.net/702/ On 7/31/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you enable spectators? On 7/31/06, Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Well, the code already has all code. You just need to enable spectators, what they did. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] take your time, if you guys are having problems, sort em out before you guys release it. Oi, Rober Pierog Lach On 7/31/06, Steve Rabouin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Maybe this will help you, tho if you haven't done this already, I'd wait for the SDK update, maybe they've done all the work for you.. http://articles.thewavelength.net/702/ On 7/31/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you enable spectators? On 7/31/06, Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Well, the code already has all code. You just need to enable spectators, what they did. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
You'll need to merge the diffs from the old SDK in if you want those features. In the past, for every SDK update, I performed a recursive 'diff -u' on the previous version and the new version and posted a patch file for modders to be able to apply all the updates to an existing codebase easily. It's been ages since I've done so, since it's been ages since the last release. I'll post such a patch again when the new SDK is out, if Valve doesn't do so. See http://tinyurl.com/z9o7j for an example of what these patches look like and see http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Diff_And_Patch for options on applying them. -bk At 2006/07/29 11:19 AM, Thomas Vollmer wrote: A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release (wishlist)
My only wish is for no new features until all the bugs are fixed. At 2006/07/26 03:06 AM, Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello and welcome Mike! It's great to hear that VALVe now introduces some sort of Community Manager. Alfred always provides kind help here about update news, but someone who exclusively takes care of the comparably large modder community is a very good decision in my opinion. I've met community managers already at Wings Simulations and Ubisoft and they were a great benefit for the community. I am also glad that the update is finally on its way. May we expect any of the following features? Consider this as a wishlist from a few modders - the others are of course welcome to add to this list. Best would be to include the list in your posts ;) Bugfixes - Hammer crashes and black viewports using the SDK workaround - StudioMDL broken since engine update - GameConfig.txt being occasionally overwritten, removing custom mods - buildcubemaps returning unknown lump errors and not replacing the default cubemap since engine update Features - VS 2005 support - Add HDR and phong shading from episode one (to be run in HL² SP and DM modes) - DoD:S and CS:S SDK (posted by Charles Solar) Whatever else you consider to be important, please add :) Greetings to all, Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz http://thenewera.invisiongamez.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Great. Just wanted to make sure my MOD's folders won't be touched until I actively do something, like apply this path. Thanks for planning to provide the patch BTW. Regards, Thomas - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:40:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release You'll need to merge the diffs from the old SDK in if you want those features. In the past, for every SDK update, I performed a recursive 'diff -u' on the previous version and the new version and posted a patch file for modders to be able to apply all the updates to an existing codebase easily. It's been ages since I've done so, since it's been ages since the last release. I'll post such a patch again when the new SDK is out, if Valve doesn't do so. See http://tinyurl.com/z9o7j for an example of what these patches look like and see http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Diff_And_Patch for options on applying them. -bk At 2006/07/29 11:19 AM, Thomas Vollmer wrote: A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Ok, thanks. Regards, Thomas - Original Message From: Robbie Groenewoudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:39:05 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I doubt there are (many) bugs in the new SDK-code. Valve will be releasing new code so you will have to implement it into your mod and you won't notice much until you do. On 7/29/06, Thomas Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A n00b question: What happens to my MOD when Valve updates the SDK? I know Steam automatically downloads updates, so I'm assuming this will be the case here. So, once Steam has done that, assuming there is a new bug in the new SDK, will my MOD have that bug or will it be left unchanged until I somehow merge the updates into my MOD? Thanks, Thomas - Original Message From: Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:07:32 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release I agree with Nick here. The last update caused a tremendous amounts of malfunctions. I also prefer a few more days of waiting instead of a bugged SDK replacing yet another bugged SDK ;) Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Hi All- Just an update on the SDK Release: We are having an issue with getting the new SDK to work as a beta alongside the shipping SDK. Since we don't want to cause any problems for MOD makers we are going to delay the release until next week in order to work out this issue. I'll keep you posted. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 7:13 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Its been problem enough waiting this long for an update On 7/29/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All- Just an update on the SDK Release: We are having an issue with getting the new SDK to work as a beta alongside the shipping SDK. Since we don't want to cause any problems for MOD makers we are going to delay the release until next week in order to work out this issue. I'll keep you posted. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 7:13 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) http://wraiyth.freesuperhost.com NightFall HL2 Mod - http://nightfall.nigredostudios.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Hi Mike, I dont think the code needs to be beta, it works or it wont. But i am willing to wait a little longer, if needed. Adam --- Wraiyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Its been problem enough waiting this long for an update On 7/29/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All- Just an update on the SDK Release: We are having an issue with getting the new SDK to work as a beta alongside the shipping SDK. Since we don't want to cause any problems for MOD makers we are going to delay the release until next week in order to work out this issue. I'll keep you posted. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 7:13 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) http://wraiyth.freesuperhost.com NightFall HL2 Mod - http://nightfall.nigredostudios.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders My Website http://www.ammahls.com Developer of CST and ZHLT 3.0 http://www.zhlt.info Studio Manager - Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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No problems with the delay here. The only thing worse than a late update is a buggy update, and personally, I don't like my code buggy :P Valve has devoted huge amount of resources to helping us modders, and I for one would like to say: Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I just appreciate the update, take your time. :) On 7/29/06, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problems with the delay here. The only thing worse than a late update is a buggy update, and personally, I don't like my code buggy :P Valve has devoted huge amount of resources to helping us modders, and I for one would like to say: Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Lead Programmer for Resistance and Liberation www.resistanceandliberation.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yep, but HL2SP mods don't use engine 2 On 7/27/06, Aaron Schiff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Phong shading is already a part of Base Source Engine 2 -- ts2do -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) http://wraiyth.freesuperhost.com NightFall HL2 Mod - http://nightfall.nigredostudios.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Is Base Source Engine 2 downloaded if HL2 is installed? If so, you could just mount 212. -- ts2do -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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any chance of: gcc 4.0? vs2005? /wall? On 7/26/06, Aaron Schiff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] DOD:S and CSS sdk will never happen...of course Mike probably could hook you up with code samples -- ts2do -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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VS2005 support has been promised for about a year now, so it will almost definitely be in there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:03 AM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release any chance of: gcc 4.0? vs2005? /wall? On 7/26/06, Aaron Schiff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] DOD:S and CSS sdk will never happen...of course Mike probably could hook you up with code samples -- ts2do -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. -- I can breathe at night now, thank goodness for this news! Gus Outlaws Lawmen Mod http://wantedmod.planethalflife.gamespy.com/cantina/ Mike Durand wrote: Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature [ smime.p7s of type application/x-pkcs7-signature deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Apart from the widely expected stuff, I'm mainly hoping that the shader source for alot of the shaders will be updates (having to hack around for lightmappedgeneric is a pain in the arse). Vertex lighting, the Phong lighting, and if possible, even the post-process effects showcased in the DODS video a while ago (DOF and Motion Blur, simply for 'playing around with' purposes). Finally, what are the chances that we will see code for some of the stuff planned in Ep2 (shadowing, enhanced outdoor rendering, soft particle system)? I'm guessing that they're extremely unlikely, but it would be cool if we got features now that are coming soon :) On 7/26/06, Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello and welcome Mike! It's great to hear that VALVe now introduces some sort of Community Manager. Alfred always provides kind help here about update news, but someone who exclusively takes care of the comparably large modder community is a very good decision in my opinion. I've met community managers already at Wings Simulations and Ubisoft and they were a great benefit for the community. I am also glad that the update is finally on its way. May we expect any of the following features? Consider this as a wishlist from a few modders - the others are of course welcome to add to this list. Best would be to include the list in your posts ;) Bugfixes - Hammer crashes and black viewports using the SDK workaround - StudioMDL broken since engine update - GameConfig.txt being occasionally overwritten, removing custom mods - buildcubemaps returning unknown lump errors and not replacing the default cubemap since engine update Features - VS 2005 support - Add HDR and phong shading from episode one (to be run in HL² SP and DM modes) - DoD:S and CS:S SDK (posted by Charles Solar) Whatever else you consider to be important, please add :) Greetings to all, Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz http://thenewera.invisiongamez.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) http://wraiyth.freesuperhost.com NightFall HL2 Mod - http://nightfall.nigredostudios.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Stuff from Episode Two isn't probably ready. But stuff like phong shading, motion blur and other stuff from Ep1 are. I'll be already very happy if we only get that. On 7/26/06, Wraiyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Apart from the widely expected stuff, I'm mainly hoping that the shader source for alot of the shaders will be updates (having to hack around for lightmappedgeneric is a pain in the arse). Vertex lighting, the Phong lighting, and if possible, even the post-process effects showcased in the DODS video a while ago (DOF and Motion Blur, simply for 'playing around with' purposes). Finally, what are the chances that we will see code for some of the stuff planned in Ep2 (shadowing, enhanced outdoor rendering, soft particle system)? I'm guessing that they're extremely unlikely, but it would be cool if we got features now that are coming soon :) On 7/26/06, Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello and welcome Mike! It's great to hear that VALVe now introduces some sort of Community Manager. Alfred always provides kind help here about update news, but someone who exclusively takes care of the comparably large modder community is a very good decision in my opinion. I've met community managers already at Wings Simulations and Ubisoft and they were a great benefit for the community. I am also glad that the update is finally on its way. May we expect any of the following features? Consider this as a wishlist from a few modders - the others are of course welcome to add to this list. Best would be to include the list in your posts ;) Bugfixes - Hammer crashes and black viewports using the SDK workaround - StudioMDL broken since engine update - GameConfig.txt being occasionally overwritten, removing custom mods - buildcubemaps returning unknown lump errors and not replacing the default cubemap since engine update Features - VS 2005 support - Add HDR and phong shading from episode one (to be run in HL² SP and DM modes) - DoD:S and CS:S SDK (posted by Charles Solar) Whatever else you consider to be important, please add :) Greetings to all, Sebastian 'Darth.Hunter' Kreutz http://thenewera.invisiongamez.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Matt Stafford (Wraiyth) http://wraiyth.freesuperhost.com NightFall HL2 Mod - http://nightfall.nigredostudios.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Nick wrote: any chance of: gcc 4.0? vs2005? /wall? Speaking of VS2005, about a year ago, Microsoft press release announced Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition for Half-Life Modifications... http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/aug05/08-31ValveCPlusPlusPR.mspx ...from the coding4fun/half-life link on that page... http://msdn.microsoft.com/coding4fun/half-life/default.aspx Q: Which C++ compiler should I use to build mods with the Source SDK? A: Valve suggests that you use Visual C++ .NET 2003. It's possible to get other compilers to work, but your results may vary. Your results may vary :) ...Today, Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition will not compile Valve's currently shipping SDK. But fear not! Microsoft is working closely with Valve to enable Visual C++ Express to work with a future Source SDK update. This should be available within the next month or two - check back here for the latest status. This should be available within the next month or two :) Doooh! -- Jeffrey botman Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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/signed also Express would be nice. Nick написа: any chance of: gcc 4.0? vs2005? /wall? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The Motion blur and Depth of Field won't be coming, it takes 2 seconds to render each frame on Valve's Computer's. They won't release it until Hardware can handle it. I just want to get the FacePoser 2 System and Phong Shading. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Wtf? 2 seconds?? -- -- omega Lethal Agents http://www.lethalagents.com Blackened Interactive http://www.blackened-interactive.com -Original Message- From: Michael Kramer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 26, 2006 11:28 AM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release (wishlist) -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The Motion blur and Depth of Field won't be coming, it takes 2 seconds to render each frame on Valve's Computer's. They won't release it until Hardware can handle it. I just want to get the FacePoser 2 System and Phong Shading. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Hi All- Since everyone is curious as to what is in this SDK release here is a very coarse summary of what's included: What This Release Has * Lots of source code updates from the Episode 1 production code Hammer, Faceposer, Model Viewer updates Access to the Ep1 version of the Source Engine binaries What It Doesn't Have Visual Studio 2005 Support (it will be in the next SDK release) Improved server plugins for bots (on my to-do list) Anything from Episode 2, Portal, Team Fortress The actual release notes will have MUCH more detail. But I wanted to set everyone's expectations until then. Our goal with this release was to get source code updates to you since that hasn't happened for a while. Once this release is done then I can spend time on many of the specifc problems that you guys have named. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Everett Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:35 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Congratulations on your new job, and may you tolerate us the best you can... I feel sorry for you joining on at these tumultuous times :) In other news, that's good to know that an SDK update is actually coming. Working on Forsaken without knowing what is coming in the next update has been a practice in crap shooting what Valve is most likely to change. Will you be able to provide a specific change log of the code in this new SDK update along with what issues they fix? It'll help us a lot when doing code integration with this new update. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:13 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks Mike, so are you a programmer? Or just a really good listener :P On 7/26/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All- Since everyone is curious as to what is in this SDK release here is a very coarse summary of what's included: What This Release Has * Lots of source code updates from the Episode 1 production code Hammer, Faceposer, Model Viewer updates Access to the Ep1 version of the Source Engine binaries What It Doesn't Have Visual Studio 2005 Support (it will be in the next SDK release) Improved server plugins for bots (on my to-do list) Anything from Episode 2, Portal, Team Fortress The actual release notes will have MUCH more detail. But I wanted to set everyone's expectations until then. Our goal with this release was to get source code updates to you since that hasn't happened for a while. Once this release is done then I can spend time on many of the specifc problems that you guys have named. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Everett Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:35 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Congratulations on your new job, and may you tolerate us the best you can... I feel sorry for you joining on at these tumultuous times :) In other news, that's good to know that an SDK update is actually coming. Working on Forsaken without knowing what is coming in the next update has been a practice in crap shooting what Valve is most likely to change. Will you be able to provide a specific change log of the code in this new SDK update along with what issues they fix? It'll help us a lot when doing code integration with this new update. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:13 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- - Benjamin Davison -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Sorry, can you repeat that? I wasn't listening. :) Yes, I am a programmer. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin Davison Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:36 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks Mike, so are you a programmer? Or just a really good listener :P On 7/26/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All- Since everyone is curious as to what is in this SDK release here is a very coarse summary of what's included: What This Release Has * Lots of source code updates from the Episode 1 production code Hammer, Faceposer, Model Viewer updates Access to the Ep1 version of the Source Engine binaries What It Doesn't Have Visual Studio 2005 Support (it will be in the next SDK release) Improved server plugins for bots (on my to-do list) Anything from Episode 2, Portal, Team Fortress The actual release notes will have MUCH more detail. But I wanted to set everyone's expectations until then. Our goal with this release was to get source code updates to you since that hasn't happened for a while. Once this release is done then I can spend time on many of the specifc problems that you guys have named. -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Everett Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:35 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Congratulations on your new job, and may you tolerate us the best you can... I feel sorry for you joining on at these tumultuous times :) In other news, that's good to know that an SDK update is actually coming. Working on Forsaken without knowing what is coming in the next update has been a practice in crap shooting what Valve is most likely to change. Will you be able to provide a specific change log of the code in this new SDK update along with what issues they fix? It'll help us a lot when doing code integration with this new update. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:13 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- - Benjamin Davison -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can you give us an estimated time on when the SDK Update that includes the content from Team Fortress 2, Portal, and Episode 2 will be available? I know after they are released, but how long after? Thanks- Michael Kramer -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Let's take one step at a time Michael ;) On 7/26/06, Michael Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can you give us an estimated time on when the SDK Update that includes the content from Team Fortress 2, Portal, and Episode 2 will be available? I know after they are released, but how long after? Thanks- Michael Kramer -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- - Benjamin Davison -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok sorry, im just excited...:P -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Awesome news Mike. Looking forward to this release. -Robert Pierog Lach --Ham Jam Team On 7/26/06, Michael Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok sorry, im just excited...:P -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Phong shading is already a part of Base Source Engine 2 -- ts2do -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Thanks Mike! Many of us here are looking for the code update, over tool support, so please consider this on our behalf. Thanks again! Adam McKern Nigredo Studios --- Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders My Website http://www.ammahls.com Developer of CST and ZHLT 3.0 http://www.zhlt.info Studio Manager - Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Welcome Mike. And may our whining be met with good humor :D On 7/26/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- - Benjamin Davison -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Oh yeah, is this a code update or an update to fix the broken tools? On 7/26/06, Benjamin Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome Mike. And may our whining be met with good humor :D On 7/26/06, Mike Durand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- - Benjamin Davison -- - Benjamin Davison -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Hi thanks Mike, I also second Adam's vote for code over tools. :-) Many of us here are looking for the code update, over tool support, so please consider this on our behalf. Cheers Andrew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's great news Mike. On 7/26/06, Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi thanks Mike, I also second Adam's vote for code over tools. :-) Many of us here are looking for the code update, over tool support, so please consider this on our behalf. Cheers Andrew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Lead Programmer for Resistance and Liberation www.resistanceandliberation.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
Congratulations on your new job, and may you tolerate us the best you can... I feel sorry for you joining on at these tumultuous times :) In other news, that's good to know that an SDK update is actually coming. Working on Forsaken without knowing what is coming in the next update has been a practice in crap shooting what Valve is most likely to change. Will you be able to provide a specific change log of the code in this new SDK update along with what issues they fix? It'll help us a lot when doing code integration with this new update. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:13 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. I started work here in June and have been given the task of working directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with the help of other members of the community. My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC, but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions you have at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems during testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be this week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the info on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. -Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Mike, Thanks for the reply, and ditto Michael, its good to hear theres someone hired specifically to maintain the SDK. Grats on your new job, but good luck putting up with all of us ;) Matt On 7/26/06, Charles Solar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My sdk wishlist: 1. CSS style bots 2. More server plugin control over game 3. DOD:S and CSS sdk :) 4. VS 05 support Thats in order of importance :D -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] DOD:S and CSS sdk will never happen...of course Mike probably could hook you up with code samples -- ts2do -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
