Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1
what results do you have for threads 2? to compare the difference between original and the changes On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: Our results show threads 1 produces slightly lower load than threads 3 but that may be a sudo effect. The figures for those interested show:- threads 3 cpu usage is 52% with an stdev or 15% resulting in 95th pctl of 67% threads 1 cpu usage is 48% with an stdev of 15% resulting in 95th pctl of 62% Both measured using over 1,700 samples at 24 players on 2fort of a L5520 Regards Steve - Original Message - From: M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1 Have you been able to complete your analysis with this Steven? I have had my GSP add -threads 1 to the command start up line and things seem to be weird. Since adding this I have noticed that my server fps (according to net graph 4) is always at 30. Previous to this command my server fps would fluctuate wildly between 64 and 512. Before this TF2 update my fps would fluctuate between 400 512 but never ever drop below 400. Since I dont host my own server (due to lack of upload bandwidth) I cant be certain if this is an issue with my GSP or with the game itself. It seemed to coincide with everyone else having issues. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk wrote: The results for Windows are in and using both -threads 1 and -threads 3 has produced a definite improvement see the following graphs:- http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/13295_week-threads1.png http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/12609_week-thread3.png I've now switched one of our popular 2fort servers to -threads 3 from -threads 2 so we can verify which is better threads 1 or threads 3 as comparing two different maps cant confirm that. Our Linux results unfortunately have been invalidated by a change in measurement method, so can't comment there :( Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1
Our results show threads 1 produces slightly lower load than threads 3 but that may be a sudo effect. The figures for those interested show:- threads 3 cpu usage is 52% with an stdev or 15% resulting in 95th pctl of 67% threads 1 cpu usage is 48% with an stdev of 15% resulting in 95th pctl of 62% Both measured using over 1,700 samples at 24 players on 2fort of a L5520 Regards Steve - Original Message - From: M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1 Have you been able to complete your analysis with this Steven? I have had my GSP add -threads 1 to the command start up line and things seem to be weird. Since adding this I have noticed that my server fps (according to net graph 4) is always at 30. Previous to this command my server fps would fluctuate wildly between 64 and 512. Before this TF2 update my fps would fluctuate between 400 512 but never ever drop below 400. Since I dont host my own server (due to lack of upload bandwidth) I cant be certain if this is an issue with my GSP or with the game itself. It seemed to coincide with everyone else having issues. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: The results for Windows are in and using both -threads 1 and -threads 3 has produced a definite improvement see the following graphs:- http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/13295_week-threads1.png http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/12609_week-thread3.png I've now switched one of our popular 2fort servers to -threads 3 from -threads 2 so we can verify which is better threads 1 or threads 3 as comparing two different maps cant confirm that. Our Linux results unfortunately have been invalidated by a change in measurement method, so can't comment there :( Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update / -threads results part 1
Have you been able to complete your analysis with this Steven? I have had my GSP add -threads 1 to the command start up line and things seem to be weird. Since adding this I have noticed that my server fps (according to net graph 4) is always at 30. Previous to this command my server fps would fluctuate wildly between 64 and 512. Before this TF2 update my fps would fluctuate between 400 512 but never ever drop below 400. Since I dont host my own server (due to lack of upload bandwidth) I cant be certain if this is an issue with my GSP or with the game itself. It seemed to coincide with everyone else having issues. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: The results for Windows are in and using both -threads 1 and -threads 3 has produced a definite improvement see the following graphs:- http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/13295_week-threads1.png http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/12609_week-thread3.png I've now switched one of our popular 2fort servers to -threads 3 from -threads 2 so we can verify which is better threads 1 or threads 3 as comparing two different maps cant confirm that. Our Linux results unfortunately have been invalidated by a change in measurement method, so can't comment there :( Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update / -threads results part 1
The results for Windows are in and using both -threads 1 and -threads 3 has produced a definite improvement see the following graphs:- http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/13295_week-threads1.png http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/12609_week-thread3.png I've now switched one of our popular 2fort servers to -threads 3 from -threads 2 so we can verify which is better threads 1 or threads 3 as comparing two different maps cant confirm that. Our Linux results unfortunately have been invalidated by a change in measurement method, so can't comment there :( Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update / -threads results part 1
I think your links are broken. (Maybe it's just me) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update / -threads results part 1 The results for Windows are in and using both -threads 1 and -threads 3 has produced a definite improvement see the following graphs:- http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/13295_week-threads1.png http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/12609_week-thread3.png I've now switched one of our popular 2fort servers to -threads 3 from -threads 2 so we can verify which is better threads 1 or threads 3 as comparing two different maps cant confirm that. Our Linux results unfortunately have been invalidated by a change in measurement method, so can't comment there :( Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update / -threads results part 1
work fine for me On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com wrote: I think your links are broken. (Maybe it's just me) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update / -threads results part 1 The results for Windows are in and using both -threads 1 and -threads 3 has produced a definite improvement see the following graphs:- http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/13295_week-threads1.png http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/12609_week-thread3.png I've now switched one of our popular 2fort servers to -threads 3 from -threads 2 so we can verify which is better threads 1 or threads 3 as comparing two different maps cant confirm that. Our Linux results unfortunately have been invalidated by a change in measurement method, so can't comment there :( Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Michael Krasnow http://mnkras.com mnk...@gmail.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1
Working here, what are you seeing? 404, 500? Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1 I think your links are broken. (Maybe it's just me) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update / -threads results part 1 The results for Windows are in and using both -threads 1 and -threads 3 has produced a definite improvement see the following graphs:- http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/13295_week-threads1.png http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/12609_week-thread3.png I've now switched one of our popular 2fort servers to -threads 3 from -threads 2 so we can verify which is better threads 1 or threads 3 as comparing two different maps cant confirm that. Our Linux results unfortunately have been invalidated by a change in measurement method, so can't comment there :( Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1
Looks like its something with my DNS server. Its working on another connection. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:45 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1 Working here, what are you seeing? 404, 500? Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1 I think your links are broken. (Maybe it's just me) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update / -threads results part 1 The results for Windows are in and using both -threads 1 and -threads 3 has produced a definite improvement see the following graphs:- http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/13295_week-threads1.png http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/12609_week-thread3.png I've now switched one of our popular 2fort servers to -threads 3 from -threads 2 so we can verify which is better threads 1 or threads 3 as comparing two different maps cant confirm that. Our Linux results unfortunately have been invalidated by a change in measurement method, so can't comment there :( Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/-threads results part 1
I would be careful there you may have a virus or something else hijacking your dns. I would definitely run a scan to be sure. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com Looks like its something with my DNS server. Its working on another connection. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/ -threads results part 1
great Mike you fuxored the internet... Now how are the rest of us going to use it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/-threads results part 1
8.8.8.8 for all your DNS loving. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 7:23 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/-threads results part 1 I would be careful there you may have a virus or something else hijacking your dns. I would definitely run a scan to be sure. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com Looks like its something with my DNS server. Its working on another connection. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/-threads results part 1
It's all about 4.2.2.1-6 (IIRC) Kyle. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote: 8.8.8.8 for all your DNS loving. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 7:23 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update/-threads results part 1 I would be careful there you may have a virus or something else hijacking your dns. I would definitely run a scan to be sure. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com Looks like its something with my DNS server. Its working on another connection. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
