Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-05-03 Thread James Tucker

On 27/04/06, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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The maximum sv_maxrate of 3 was told to me directly by Alfred that it is
currently hard coded into SRCDS, so that is where I get my authority on that
subject. Ask Alfred off list for confirmation if you want. Who knows, maybe
this value will change.


Interesting. There have been suggestions in the past that source
packets can reach 560 Bytes. If this is the case, then we can't reall
support over 60 packets per second without potential choke issues. I
cannot provide solid confirmation of this packet size however.


On a side note, I do remember the Valve Developer Site notes for SRCDS once
saying it could support up to 255 players or some fancilful number like
that, but this has now disappeared. Maybe there are others out there who can
testify to witnessing the same value for the supposed original online
multiplayer limit that was envisaged for SRCDS?


I remember that too, given the round start load currently present, I
am genuinely quite worried if the engine is hardcoded to 30KBps.


cl_updaterate has a hard limit of 100 (from memory), cl_cmdrate does not
seem to have a hard limit other than the clients fps, but due to the nature
of SRCDS client/server communications, all you end up doing is sending the
same amount of data after a certain point no matter how high the cl_cmdrate
is.


They both have a limit. Just go to console and type cl_cmdrate and
cl_updaterate it's all there similarly type rate and on a
server sv_maxrate notice the cl_*rate cvars have documented limits.


I have been at Valve to provide a SRCDS Netcode explanation on how things
should be setup in optimal circumstances, rather than the 20/30/56Kbitsps
with 33% packet loss explanation they currently have.


Me too. the best solution is to look at what we know about the packets
and to attempt to craft the highest bandwidth situations we can, to
find the theoretical limits. There are alot of caps and limiters in
source, these don't make life overly easy.

One of the things I'd almost like more, is just for the server to
advertise sv_maxrate, sv_minrate, sv_maxupdaterate, sv_minupdaterate,
sv_maxunlag, etc. so that we can use tools to actively rate remote
servers by settings.


BTW, its a wiki, create an account and fix it yourself  :p

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-27 Thread James Tucker
Whisper, sorry dude, as I know you've been working on this
documentation for a long time (and I've been away for a while)
however, where on earth do you get the maximum values for rate and
sv_maxrate?

Those maximums don't exist. If I set sv_maxrate 1000 and rate
1000 then I can get maps down from a server on the local lan MUCH
faster than sv_maxrate 3.

Another thing, you still have suggestions of cl_cmdrate 101; cl_rate
1, now I know this is a deprecated cvar, however it's the notion
that upsets me significantly. cl_cmdrate 101 does not fit into 10kBps.
I don't use net_graph as it is too coarse generally, but you will see
even on net_graph that in certain instances (particularly player
deaths, high physics interactions (very much moreso with hl2dm), level
resets, cs:s bomb explosions) 10kBps is not enough bandwidth to
transfer all of the state changes from the client to the server, or
visa versa.

In fact, in recent tests, the same is true of server to client data
transfers. Try configuring a server with sv_maxrate 0,
sv_maxupdaterate 100 and a client with rate 100 and cl_updaterate
100. Populate the server with bots / players and then view the
bandwidth usage on the graph or in net_channels. Also check the server
stats for total bandwidth transferred. It is not uncommon that the
server needs to transfer higher bandwidths than 30kBps, again moreso
for hl2dm than cs:s, however true for both.

In future implementations of the source engine (as the gameworlds
become more movable) we will see more and more bandwidth being used,
so we need to get vigilant of these things sooner rather than later.

The lag that you see with sv_maxrate 0 is the oddity of unrestricting
the connection and reaching MTU / bandwidth boundaries on the server,
as you would see in other flows like VOIP apps etc. As you know,
sv_maxrate, MR, should be the servers total outgoing bandwidth B,
divided by the number of players N for ideal performance, leading you
to:

 MR = B / N

for a 10mbps server with 64 subscribers, this would be roughly:

n.b. B = 10mbps / 8 to get mBps.

MR = (10 000 000 / 8) / 64
MR = 19 531

Obviously this is quite an extreme case, in a way. Many commercial
deployments having about 5-10mbps available, and running about 60
players throught them (2 or 3 instances of SRCDS per box). In this
case, you can see where these bandwidth caps really can defend against
loss if they are set correctly.

Finally, going back to the sv_maxrate maximum value issue, if the
maximum value was 3, then leaving sv_maxrate 0 is equivalent to
sv_maxrate 3. This however is clearly NOT the case, as you
yourself state in the documentation. It is also important to note that
cl_updaterate is documented in the engine itself to have a maximal
value, and no such maximal values are ever stated for the 'rate'
variables.


Hope all is well over in your kneck of the woods, I've been run off my
feet with Red Orchestra, BF 2, Quake 4 etc aswell as a bunch of other
bespoke projects.

Keep up the good work,

James.

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 Here you go Alexander

 http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Tickrate

 It is for SRCDS only though

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  At least we have someone to blame. But please be careful next time, pal
  :)
 
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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-27 Thread Whisper
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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-26 Thread DT

kyle wrote:



So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill think about what you have to say.




Yes, you have just described me (except instead of Oakland, Culver city,
CA).  So, since you'll think about what I have to say think about this...

You are an embarrassment to all police officer's.  I cannot believe how
outrageous your behavior on this forum has been.  You talk about people
being in denial and YOU are the biggest one of all.  You're in denial
about being here to help. When you have helped nobody.  You're in denial
saying you have such a high IQ when you spell like a mentally retarded
person. You're in denial when you have the gawl to say you have been
around the world (giving the impression) that you might be a
distinguished gentleman but curse and act as bad as a 14 year old pimp
living on the street.

You're in denial saying that your age is 41.  Based on all you've
written you cannot be older than 14 years old and in desperate need of a
spanking.  SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND LEAVE!  Please...


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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread Roman Hatsiev
At least we have someone to blame. But please be careful next time, pal :)

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread [GS]-BeNt-


- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

I cut out the rest.Cause after all who really cares.

::The making of a tool shed::

The person whom made the post about the whole retirement thing,is
absoulutely 100% correct.I used to work in law enforcement,but did not
retire from them.And as most people know you have to work for someone for at
least 25 years before retirement.Not only that but you can not work for law
enforcement until you are of age.Which is 21 to be legally covered by
federal ways.IE you get killed in the line of duty.So lets assume for a
moment he went into law enforcement at 21.He worked the minimum of 25
years.What age does that make him?46.For the LAPD which my uncle retired
from he worked with the for 28 years and retired out at 59.So the math there
doesn't correctly add up for him.If he did indeed retire at 41 that would
only make him 16 at time of hire.The federal mandate law of law enforcement
limits upon age hiring requirements went effective in 1978.His hiring date
as of 25 years ago would have been 1980-1981 somewhere in that time
frame.Which would have missed the year totally.Assuming that he retired this
year.Any earlier than that and he would have been UNDER 16!!And judging that
he was a police officer then I would say he's F.O.S.

Who ever posted the links deal.That was hilarious.Thanks alot.

And last but not least.This has got to be the best troll we have ever
had.Not only is he a moron,(his word I would pick something alittle more on
the educated side) but he proves it email after email.

So for only 39.95 a month you can have 50x the dial up speeds so you can
jump online and become an idiot too!Also for 9.95 I will sell you an all
inclusive book that shows you step by step to make people think you actually
make money doing it!So what are you waiting on call now!

1-800-GET-LIFE



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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread Alexander Kobbevik
If by accident there is any information in this thread that can be
useful for an admin, can someone make a summary for me please?

Thanks :)


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At least we have someone to blame. But please be careful next time, pal
:)

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread Whisper
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Here you go Alexander

http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Tickrate

It is for SRCDS only though

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 Sent: 25. april 2006 10:12
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 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 At least we have someone to blame. But please be careful next time, pal
 :)

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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread Edward Luna
Agreed... sound advice; I'm done.

-Original Message-
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To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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Or we could all just stop feeding the troll and he will go back under
his bridge.

Bud Ingram wrote:

 From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


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 I have more fun then should be legal,   this year ill be playing at
 least
 6
 events on the AGspanos golf tour and then in between events ill be on
 the
 road playing 9ball and one pocket.


 http://www.gaysports.com/page.cfm?sectionid=18parent=1

 You see theres the Rub,  if you haven't broken bread with the person or
 hung
 out with them, then you really can't know what a person thinks or why
 they
 act the way they do.

 I have so many irons in the fire many many people think im just totally
 full
 of shit.
 I'm also in the process of writing two different screen plays.


 www.queendom.com/test/minitests/fx/egomania.html

 When I have a few free minutes to check on my servers, I respond to
 emails
 I
 think need a resonse.

 This is not my life, it just seems that way because I'm able to
 multitask
 like an animal.
 And in a few weeks ill be traveling arounfd the US and possibly to
 another
 country and then no one will here from me fro quite a while.   I'm sure
 all
 of you will be please I wont be around.


 www.osric.com/university/pathlying.html

 P.S. I misspelled around (arounfd)  just to annoy Edward  Luna.   :P

 Oh and BTW if any of you play chess online I'm rated a 2200 almost a
 master
 and I play for money.
 Let me know if you want to hook up and play.  You must have an
 account in
 order to play though.


 www.proenhance.com

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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread Edward Luna
One small correction... he said he's 41 and has been retired for over 10
years.  That makes him 5 when he joined the force.

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- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

I cut out the rest.Cause after all who really cares.

::The making of a tool shed::

The person whom made the post about the whole retirement thing,is
absoulutely 100% correct.I used to work in law enforcement,but did not
retire from them.And as most people know you have to work for someone for at
least 25 years before retirement.Not only that but you can not work for law
enforcement until you are of age.Which is 21 to be legally covered by
federal ways.IE you get killed in the line of duty.So lets assume for a
moment he went into law enforcement at 21.He worked the minimum of 25
years.What age does that make him?46.For the LAPD which my uncle retired
from he worked with the for 28 years and retired out at 59.So the math there
doesn't correctly add up for him.If he did indeed retire at 41 that would
only make him 16 at time of hire.The federal mandate law of law enforcement
limits upon age hiring requirements went effective in 1978.His hiring date
as of 25 years ago would have been 1980-1981 somewhere in that time
frame.Which would have missed the year totally.Assuming that he retired this
year.Any earlier than that and he would have been UNDER 16!!And judging that
he was a police officer then I would say he's F.O.S.

Who ever posted the links deal.That was hilarious.Thanks alot.

And last but not least.This has got to be the best troll we have ever
had.Not only is he a moron,(his word I would pick something alittle more on
the educated side) but he proves it email after email.

So for only 39.95 a month you can have 50x the dial up speeds so you can
jump online and become an idiot too!Also for 9.95 I will sell you an all
inclusive book that shows you step by step to make people think you actually
make money doing it!So what are you waiting on call now!

1-800-GET-LIFE



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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread hlds

And its the people have have the holier than thou mentality we could
do without.  Take some of that excessive money and rather be
self-indulgent, give it to someone who could use it more than you or
something.  Better yet, invest in some English classes and learn the
difference between their, there and they're.  Convincing 156 IQ
argument there buddy.

Every intellectual person I know is able to effectively argue their
point without have to use excessive profanity.  Those who must use
excessive profanity I've found tend to have some sort of fixation on
the fact that they -wish- they could argue effectively.but all
that comes out are 4 letter words and suicide suggests.  There's a big
LAWL for you sir.

Who are you trying to convince here?  You've posted more on this
forum (lol, it's a mailing list) more than I have in years just in
these past couple of days.  Stereotyping will get you know where.  Oh
wait, you were in the police force.  If I was to take the same
position and outlook as you, by example, I would assume you're a
close-minded, racist, stereotypical human being that only become a
police officer for the power trip.  Do I honestly think that about all
cops?  Of course not.  Why? I'm not a close mind egotistical maniac
as you so have painted yourself to be.

I'd say take some of your own advice, but I'd hate to lower myself to
your level of insults.

Feel free to continue commenting though.  The last couple days at work
have been relatively entertaining reading your responses.

Fighting on the internet makes you e-cool.  Flex those e-muscles kyle! gogo!

/p

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You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just do
it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working man

I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
1992.
I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel etc.
And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
mouths.

Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
(THIS MEANS YOU)

In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and server
admin's really are.

The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that there
not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in denial
due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
morality...

Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world outside
your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact with
each other for the worse.  Not the better.

I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

Example.Remember when you were a little kid and you knew something that
your friends didn't and when you told them they all got embarrassed because
you knew and they didn't and they didn't like you for it.

The quickest way to alienate or lose friends is to be smarter then there are
and prove it to them time and time again.   People don't like to feel dumb
and that's what I have done here in these forums.
Sorry for simply stating the truth.

And if I have made any mistakes or errors in my reply's it was due to the
fact that we have been talking in cross terms, I.e   HLDS vs SRCDS,tickrate
vs ticrate,FPS_max etc.

When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a little
confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...

So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill think about what you have to say.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 06:42:39
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Kyle's the only 41 year old I've ever seen use stfu.

ROFL...

I've used it... and I'm 59... but I'd never use it here... it has no place
in this mailing list.
Anger is the first indication that your loosing control of the situation


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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:56 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread James McKenna



Since when do 41 year olds use LAWL or any online slang?



Biter. ;)


---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 04/24/06 23:47:05
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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I'm sorry, it's my fault

I've created a monster

On 4/25/06, L.o.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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Why is this jackass still even here?
Or is he here merely for the enjoyment of others to laugh at him?

Because we all are laughing at you. I'm sure even Alfred is as well.
You rag on us about how anyone that plays games or is a server admin are
losers  yet, here you are. You trying for the lead loser spot?
You already have that won, hands down.
---Original Message---

From: kyle
Date: 04/24/06 19:27:32
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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Your reply confirms what i have already said, your a moron.
So big deal, I'm not that great of a typist, leave it to some Internet
loser
to not even address the post but to rag on the fact that I have bad
spelling
and typing.   That's the first thing most ignorant Internet losers do
when
they find out there a moron.

Ahhaha duh you spelled wrong, your an idiot.   GG dick head.

Open mouth more and prove your a bigger lamer.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 14:07:49
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Very entertaining Kyle...

You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I
just
do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to let
them
know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.

No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for itself.

However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen to
what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing the
complaining.


I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last paragraph
of
your post

 So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then
maybe
ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.

So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and
you're
currently 41.  Does that mean your retired at 30, and if so... how old
were
you when you took the job with the police... 10?  Also, retired at 30;
where
did you get the money?  Lotto... or are they paying Oakland Police
officers
really well these days?


-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:19 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


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You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
do
it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working
man

I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
1992.
I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel
etc.
And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85%
of
server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out
and
purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
mouths.

Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
(THIS MEANS YOU)

In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and
server
admin's really are.

The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that
there
not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in
denial
due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
morality...

Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then
maybe
you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world
outside
your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact
with
each other for the worse.  Not the better.

I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

Example.Remember when you were a little kid and you knew something
that
your friends didn't and when you told them they all got embarrassed
because
you knew and they didn't and they didn't like

RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread Scott Long
This thread still isn't dead yet? WOW! :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Hatsiev
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:12 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

At least we have someone to blame. But please be careful next time, pal :)

On 25/04/06, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 I'm sorry, it's my fault

 I've created a monster


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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-25 Thread Adam Sando
Is there a possibility that he retired early because he was shot on
duty, and the payout was so massive that he didn't ever need to work
again?

This leads me into a new line of questioning surrounding the possibility
of him thinking he was playing an fps and got shot, and couldn't reload
his save game, but found a cheat code to get unlimited money or
something... Then we lead into The Sims 2...

Oh crap, I forgot about the sign that said don't feed the trolls,
outside the mailing list enclosure.

Cheers,
Adam

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [GS]-BeNt-
Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:04 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

I cut out the rest.Cause after all who really cares.

::The making of a tool shed::

The person whom made the post about the whole retirement thing,is
absoulutely 100% correct.I used to work in law enforcement,but did not
retire from them.And as most people know you have to work for someone
for at least 25 years before retirement.Not only that but you can not
work for law enforcement until you are of age.Which is 21 to be legally
covered by federal ways.IE you get killed in the line of duty.So lets
assume for a moment he went into law enforcement at 21.He worked the
minimum of 25 years.What age does that make him?46.For the LAPD
which my uncle retired from he worked with the for 28 years and retired
out at 59.So the math there doesn't correctly add up for him.If he did
indeed retire at 41 that would only make him 16 at time of hire.The
federal mandate law of law enforcement limits upon age hiring
requirements went effective in 1978.His hiring date as of 25 years ago
would have been 1980-1981 somewhere in that time frame.Which would have
missed the year totally.Assuming that he retired this year.Any earlier
than that and he would have been UNDER 16!!And judging that he was a
police officer then I would say he's F.O.S.

Who ever posted the links deal.That was hilarious.Thanks alot.

And last but not least.This has got to be the best troll we have ever
had.Not only is he a moron,(his word I would pick something alittle more
on the educated side) but he proves it email after email.

So for only 39.95 a month you can have 50x the dial up speeds so you
can jump online and become an idiot too!Also for 9.95 I will sell you an
all inclusive book that shows you step by step to make people think you
actually make money doing it!So what are you waiting on call now!

1-800-GET-LIFE



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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread James McKenna

Kyle's the only 41 year old I've ever seen use stfu.

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Whisper
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That 41 was a typo as well :D

On 4/24/06, James McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kyle's the only 41 year old I've ever seen use stfu.

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Ian mu
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You would think that, but still shows his ignorance by saying tickrate only
is on srcds because of mani when trying to get out of his mistake showing he
still doesn't understand, when all mani is doing is highlighting what the
srcds setting is. That was even explained by the mod auther.

Strange people during strange times, I just wouldn't feed the animals too
much at the zoo.


On 4/24/06, [GS]-BeNt- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone else get the feeling that Kyle realized he has made a complete
 fool of himself for the last few days?And now he is trying to make it
 sound
 like he was talking about the HLDS Engine.And why in the hell would you
 talk
 about the HLDS engine when we are talking about [HLDS]SRCDS will not
 run?

 I dunno.I thank you for the mani mod plugin it runs great on my server
 with my -tickrate 100 in the commandline.And I love all the different
 configuration options in the the mani.cfg.Also your statement about when
 sourcemod comes out should have read if sourcemod ever comes out can
 anyone else say vaporware.Kyle I understand with your minute mind you
 don't
 know what vaporware is so go look it up on an online wiki where ALL the
 idiots in the world share there stupid thoughts and none of it is true.I
 beat we can find some of your stuff there..

 BeNt
 http://www.gorillazsouth.com



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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Dustin Tuft

kyle I really think you need a punctuation substitution lesson.

http://www.zefrank.com/punc/

Maybe you should try getting into the right game? You seem to be stuck on
HLDS, if you even bother to look at the subject you would understand-this is
clearly a diffrent game. SRCDS is the current HL2 server!

:)

Dustin Tuft


From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:28:54 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

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Last night, I testedsys_ticrate,sys_tickrate,tickrate,ticrate,-tickrate
-ticrate,+tickrate.+ticrate. In the server config and in the cmd line and
the only command that worked is sys_ticrate.
It works in the CMD line or in the server.cfg.

And to quote Brandon...The following can only be set in the command
line. Typing them in console
Does nothing

Well then when I type sys_ticrate 500 in my HLDS console and the ticrate
changes from 64 to 500, then WTF is that you lame dumbass kid.

All you morons want to do is argue, you havn't even bothered testing the
actual commands in both CMD line and or server.cfg.

All you losers do is use google or wiki to copy and past text that other
dumbass's wrote.

it's amazing you can even look yourself in a mirror without wanting to
commit suicide.
Just save some face and stop posting.

Do your self a big favour Brandon start HLDS and then type sys_ticrate 500
in the console,  then youll fucking see how stupid you really are.

As for Lod, don't even get me started on how pathetic there.

---Original Message---

From: Brandon R. Miller
Date: 04/23/06 15:15:15
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

41? You act like a damn 12 year old.

As L.o.D. pointed out. Direct quote from valve.

URL: http://developer.valvesoftware
com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Basic_Networking

QUOTE: The server admin may override the default tickrate with the
-tickrate command line parameter, though tickrate changes done
this way are not recommended because the mod may not work as designed if
its
tickrate is changed.

Get off this mailing list already and take some grammar courses.

Brandon

- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


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 Ahha your an idiot and cannot read a simple forum post.When I said
there
 was no command with tick or tic I was referring too the commands
tickrate
 and or ticrate.
 Get it through your fuking head already there is no command for SRCDS
with
 any form of tic or tick in it.

 Who in the fuck raised you, you are so stupid, you need to kill your
self
 right now.
 You worthless piece of crap.Yet another case of the stupid trying to
 make others think there not.

 Can I be an asshole, yes I can. Can I be dumb, yes from time to time.
 The huge difference between me and most of you, is that I can admit it
when
 I am.

 Just give up on life already, everyone who is wrong about there
statements
 in this thread yet continues to argue there case needs to just drive off
a
 cliff.

 I join forums for two things to get help and to give help.It would
seem
 that this forum is just like the steam and DOD forums.   People making
posts
 to make themselves look smarter and make others feel dumb and people who
 have absolutely no lives at all.

 Even though I have used many expletives to describe my disgust with
those
of
 you who have so ignorantly exspressed them selves in this thread, I will
no
 longer perpetuate the stupidity that grows from it.  Good fucking
 riddance.

 I appoligise to Alfred and the adults who run and frequent these forums
for
 my expletive outburst's but I have simply had it with losers such as the
 ones who have posted replys in this thread.

 At 41 YOA and retired I no longer have the patience to deal with stupid
 people.



 ---Original Message---

 From: Brandon R. Miller
 Date: 04/23/06 14:22:41
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 You are correct there is no command that is tick or tic it is
tickrate


 The following can only be set in the command line. Typing them in
console
 does nothing.
 -tickrate 66
 -tickrate 100

 Now quietly remove yourself from this list.

 Brandon

 - Original Message -
 From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:09 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


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 Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again
and
 there is no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the
CMD
 line or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

 SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice
day
 while your

RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread kyle
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You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just do
it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working man

I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
1992.
I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel etc.
And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
mouths.

Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
(THIS MEANS YOU)

In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and server
admin's really are.

The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that there
not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in denial
due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
morality...

Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world outside
your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact with
each other for the worse.  Not the better.

I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

Example.Remember when you were a little kid and you knew something that
your friends didn't and when you told them they all got embarrassed because
you knew and they didn't and they didn't like you for it.

The quickest way to alienate or lose friends is to be smarter then there are
and prove it to them time and time again.   People don't like to feel dumb
and that's what I have done here in these forums.
Sorry for simply stating the truth.

And if I have made any mistakes or errors in my reply's it was due to the
fact that we have been talking in cross terms, I.e   HLDS vs SRCDS,tickrate
vs ticrate,FPS_max etc.

When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a little
confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...

So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill think about what you have to say.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 06:42:39
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Kyle's the only 41 year old I've ever seen use stfu.

ROFL...

I've used it... and I'm 59... but I'd never use it here... it has no place
in this mailing list.
Anger is the first indication that your loosing control of the situation


-Original Message-
From: James McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:56 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


Kyle's the only 41 year old I've ever seen use stfu.

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Graham

What a great way to make friends...


When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a
little
confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...

So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill think about what you have to say.



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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Scott Long

If you are going to call others morons, perhaps you should first work on the
spelling and grammar in your messages.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:19 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just do
it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working man

I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
1992.
I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel etc.
And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
mouths.

Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
(THIS MEANS YOU)

In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and server
admin's really are.

The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that there
not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in denial
due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
morality...

Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world outside
your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact with
each other for the worse.  Not the better.

I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

Example.Remember when you were a little kid and you knew something that
your friends didn't and when you told them they all got embarrassed because
you knew and they didn't and they didn't like you for it.

The quickest way to alienate or lose friends is to be smarter then there are
and prove it to them time and time again.   People don't like to feel dumb
and that's what I have done here in these forums.
Sorry for simply stating the truth.

And if I have made any mistakes or errors in my reply's it was due to the
fact that we have been talking in cross terms, I.e   HLDS vs SRCDS,tickrate
vs ticrate,FPS_max etc.

When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a little
confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...

So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill think about what you have to say.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 06:42:39
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Kyle's the only 41 year old I've ever seen use stfu.

ROFL...

I've used it... and I'm 59... but I'd never use it here... it has no place
in this mailing list.
Anger is the first indication that your loosing control of the situation


-Original Message-
From: James McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:56 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


Kyle's the only 41 year old I've ever seen use stfu.

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Ian mu
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Crikey, if I had enough money never to work again I wouldn't be wasting time
doing lengthy mails on tickrate, get out there and have a good time ;).

On 4/24/06, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What a great way to make friends...

  When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a
  little
  confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...
 
  So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
  different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police
 officer,
  and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then
 maybe
  ill think about what you have to say.


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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread [GS]-BeNt-

NO joke.If I had enough money I didn't have to work I wouldn't even be at
home right now.I would be in maui laying on the beach.

But Kyle do you honestly think we believe anything you say?You're a joke on
this mailing list now.Nobody will ever take you seriously again.So troll
somewhere else.Time to setup my spam filters.

BeNt

- Original Message -
From: Ian mu [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Crikey, if I had enough money never to work again I wouldn't be wasting
time
doing lengthy mails on tickrate, get out there and have a good time ;).




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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Edward Luna
Very entertaining Kyle...

You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to let them
know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.

No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for itself.

However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen to
what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing the
complaining.


I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last paragraph of
your post

 So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.

So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and you're
currently 41.  Does that mean your retired at 30, and if so... how old were
you when you took the job with the police... 10?  Also, retired at 30; where
did you get the money?  Lotto... or are they paying Oakland Police officers
really well these days?


-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:19 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just do
it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working man

I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
1992.
I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel etc.
And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
mouths.

Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
(THIS MEANS YOU)

In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and server
admin's really are.

The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that there
not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in denial
due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
morality...

Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world outside
your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact with
each other for the worse.  Not the better.

I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

Example.Remember when you were a little kid and you knew something that
your friends didn't and when you told them they all got embarrassed because
you knew and they didn't and they didn't like you for it.

The quickest way to alienate or lose friends is to be smarter then there are
and prove it to them time and time again.   People don't like to feel dumb
and that's what I have done here in these forums.
Sorry for simply stating the truth.

And if I have made any mistakes or errors in my reply's it was due to the
fact that we have been talking in cross terms, I.e   HLDS vs SRCDS,tickrate
vs ticrate,FPS_max etc.

When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a little
confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...

So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill think about what you have to say.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 06:42:39
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Kyle's the only 41 year old I've ever seen use stfu.

ROFL...

I've used it... and I'm 59... but I'd never use it here... it has no place
in this mailing list.
Anger is the first indication that your loosing control of the situation


-Original Message-
From: James McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:56 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


Kyle's the only 41 year old I've ever seen use stfu.

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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Your reply confirms what i have already said, your a moron.
So big deal, I'm not that great of a typist, leave it to some Internet loser
to not even address the post but to rag on the fact that I have bad spelling
and typing.   That's the first thing most ignorant Internet losers do when
they find out there a moron.

Ahhaha duh you spelled wrong, your an idiot.   GG dick head.

Open mouth more and prove your a bigger lamer.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 14:07:49
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Very entertaining Kyle...

You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to let them
know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.

No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for itself.

However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen to
what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing the
complaining.


I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last paragraph of
your post

 So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.

So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and you're
currently 41.  Does that mean your retired at 30, and if so... how old were
you when you took the job with the police... 10?  Also, retired at 30; where
did you get the money?  Lotto... or are they paying Oakland Police officers
really well these days?


-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:19 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just do
it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working man

I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
1992.
I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel etc.
And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
mouths.

Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
(THIS MEANS YOU)

In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and server
admin's really are.

The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that there
not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in denial
due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
morality...

Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world outside
your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact with
each other for the worse.  Not the better.

I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

Example.Remember when you were a little kid and you knew something that
your friends didn't and when you told them they all got embarrassed because
you knew and they didn't and they didn't like you for it.

The quickest way to alienate or lose friends is to be smarter then there are
and prove it to them time and time again.   People don't like to feel dumb
and that's what I have done here in these forums.
Sorry for simply stating the truth.

And if I have made any mistakes or errors in my reply's it was due to the
fact that we have been talking in cross terms, I.e   HLDS vs SRCDS,tickrate
vs ticrate,FPS_max etc.

When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a little
confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...

So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill think about what you have to say.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 06:42:39
To: hlds

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I have more fun then should be legal,   this year ill be playing at least 6
events on the AGspanos golf tour and then in between events ill be on the
road playing 9ball and one pocket.

You see theres the Rub,  if you haven't broken bread with the person or hung
out with them, then you really can't know what a person thinks or why they
act the way they do.

I have so many irons in the fire many many people think im just totally full
of shit.
I'm also in the process of writing two different screen plays.

When I have a few free minutes to check on my servers, I respond to emails I
think need a resonse.

This is not my life, it just seems that way because I'm able to multitask
like an animal.
And in a few weeks ill be traveling arounfd the US and possibly to another
country and then no one will here from me fro quite a while.   I'm sure all
of you will be please I wont be around.

P.S. I misspelled around (arounfd)  just to annoy Edward  Luna.   :P

Oh and BTW if any of you play chess online I'm rated a 2200 almost a master
and I play for money.
Let me know if you want to hook up and play.  You must have an account in
order to play though.

---Original Message---

From: Ian mu
Date: 04/24/06 12:42:56
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Crikey, if I had enough money never to work again I wouldn't be wasting time
doing lengthy mails on tickrate, get out there and have a good time ;).

On 4/24/06, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What a great way to make friends...

  When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a
  little
  confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...
 
  So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
  different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police
 officer,
  and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then
 maybe
  ill think about what you have to say.


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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Bud Ingram

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - PLONK


- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Your reply confirms what i have already said, your a moron.
So big deal, I'm not that great of a typist, leave it to some Internet
loser
to not even address the post but to rag on the fact that I have bad
spelling
and typing.   That's the first thing most ignorant Internet losers do when
they find out there a moron.

Ahhaha duh you spelled wrong, your an idiot.   GG dick head.

Open mouth more and prove your a bigger lamer.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 14:07:49
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Very entertaining Kyle...

You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to let
them
know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.

No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for itself.

However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen to
what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing the
complaining.


I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last paragraph of
your post

 So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.

So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and you're
currently 41.  Does that mean your retired at 30, and if so... how old
were
you when you took the job with the police... 10?  Also, retired at 30;
where
did you get the money?  Lotto... or are they paying Oakland Police
officers
really well these days?


-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:19 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
do
it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working
man

I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
1992.
I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel
etc.
And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
mouths.

Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
(THIS MEANS YOU)

In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and
server
admin's really are.

The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that
there
not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in
denial
due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
morality...

Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world
outside
your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact
with
each other for the worse.  Not the better.

I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

Example.Remember when you were a little kid and you knew something
that
your friends didn't and when you told them they all got embarrassed
because
you knew and they didn't and they didn't like you for it.

The quickest way to alienate or lose friends is to be smarter then there
are
and prove it to them time and time again.   People don't like to feel dumb
and that's what I have done here in these forums.
Sorry for simply stating the truth.

And if I have made any mistakes or errors in my reply's it was due to the
fact that we have been talking in cross terms, I.e   HLDS vs
SRCDS,tickrate
vs ticrate,FPS_max etc.

When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a
little
confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...

So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Bud Ingram

From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I have more fun then should be legal,   this year ill be playing at least
6
events on the AGspanos golf tour and then in between events ill be on the
road playing 9ball and one pocket.


http://www.gaysports.com/page.cfm?sectionid=18parent=1


You see theres the Rub,  if you haven't broken bread with the person or
hung
out with them, then you really can't know what a person thinks or why they
act the way they do.

I have so many irons in the fire many many people think im just totally
full
of shit.
I'm also in the process of writing two different screen plays.


www.queendom.com/test/minitests/fx/egomania.html


When I have a few free minutes to check on my servers, I respond to emails
I
think need a resonse.

This is not my life, it just seems that way because I'm able to multitask
like an animal.
And in a few weeks ill be traveling arounfd the US and possibly to another
country and then no one will here from me fro quite a while.   I'm sure
all
of you will be please I wont be around.


www.osric.com/university/pathlying.html


P.S. I misspelled around (arounfd)  just to annoy Edward  Luna.   :P

Oh and BTW if any of you play chess online I'm rated a 2200 almost a
master
and I play for money.
Let me know if you want to hook up and play.  You must have an account in
order to play though.


www.proenhance.com

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread James McKenna

Dude... who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself? No one cares what
you do. No one cares how good you are at online chess (which is hardly
something I'd be bragging about in the first place).

Just leave. Please. No one wants to know about your screen plays, and no one
cares about how you can multitask. To sum it up, no one cares about how
massive you think your e-penis is.

Please, so we can get back to using this medium for what it was established
for, just go away. Please.


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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
LAWL another loser moron.

---Original Message---

From: James McKenna
Date: 04/24/06 16:50:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Dude... who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself? No one cares what
you do. No one cares how good you are at online chess (which is hardly
something I'd be bragging about in the first place).

Just leave. Please. No one wants to know about your screen plays, and no one
cares about how you can multitask. To sum it up, no one cares about how
massive you think your e-penis is.

Please, so we can get back to using this medium for what it was established
for, just go away. Please.


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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Edward Luna
Do let us know when you get out.

-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:38 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I have more fun then should be legal,   this year ill be playing at least 6
events on the AGspanos golf tour and then in between events ill be on the
road playing 9ball and one pocket.

You see theres the Rub,  if you haven't broken bread with the person or hung
out with them, then you really can't know what a person thinks or why they
act the way they do.

I have so many irons in the fire many many people think im just totally full
of shit.
I'm also in the process of writing two different screen plays.

When I have a few free minutes to check on my servers, I respond to emails I
think need a resonse.

This is not my life, it just seems that way because I'm able to multitask
like an animal.
And in a few weeks ill be traveling arounfd the US and possibly to another
country and then no one will here from me fro quite a while.   I'm sure all
of you will be please I wont be around.

P.S. I misspelled around (arounfd)  just to annoy Edward  Luna.   :P

Oh and BTW if any of you play chess online I'm rated a 2200 almost a master
and I play for money.
Let me know if you want to hook up and play.  You must have an account in
order to play though.

---Original Message---

From: Ian mu
Date: 04/24/06 12:42:56
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Crikey, if I had enough money never to work again I wouldn't be wasting time
doing lengthy mails on tickrate, get out there and have a good time ;).

On 4/24/06, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What a great way to make friends...

  When you have some many stupid people saying stupid things it gets a
  little
  confusing even for someone with an IQ of 156...
 
  So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
  different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police
 officer,
  and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then
 maybe
  ill think about what you have to say.


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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Edward Luna
i.c.

The problem is not that your very impressive IQ inexplicably lets you down
when it comes to basic grammar... in your mind the problem is you're just
not a good typist and everyone who doesn't agree with you is a moron.

btw... they weren't spelling errors they were grammar errors... you spelled
the wrong words correctly.

And talk about not addressing the post... you have failed to explain how it
is you retired at 30 from the Oakland Police force.  I hope this does not
cause you too much stress... I've hear that high IQ people can sometimes be
somewhat irrational when confronted with factual evidence.

I hope we don't encounter another person on this mailing list with an even
higher IQ say, 170 or 180... I don't think we could stand the torrent of
deleted expletives that would surely emanate from his keyboard.  Isn't that
the way it works?  The higher the IQ the more anemic the vocabulary.

-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:23 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Your reply confirms what i have already said, your a moron.
So big deal, I'm not that great of a typist, leave it to some Internet loser
to not even address the post but to rag on the fact that I have bad spelling
and typing.   That's the first thing most ignorant Internet losers do when
they find out there a moron.

Ahhaha duh you spelled wrong, your an idiot.   GG dick head.

Open mouth more and prove your a bigger lamer.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 14:07:49
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Very entertaining Kyle...

You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to let them
know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.

No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for itself.

However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen to
what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing the
complaining.


I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last paragraph of
your post

 So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.

So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and you're
currently 41.  Does that mean your retired at 30, and if so... how old were
you when you took the job with the police... 10?  Also, retired at 30; where
did you get the money?  Lotto... or are they paying Oakland Police officers
really well these days?


-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:19 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just do
it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working man

I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
1992.
I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel etc.
And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
mouths.

Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
(THIS MEANS YOU)

In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and server
admin's really are.

The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that there
not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in denial
due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
morality...

Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world outside
your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact with
each other for the worse.  Not the better.

I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

Example

RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Edward Luna
I must admit Kyle... you've made my week. ROFL.  Anybody out there have
teenaged children?  Where would you put this guy on the emotional
development scale... about 12 or 13?  Kyle... go clean your room or I'll
tell your mommy to take your Internet away.

Can we get back to talk about servers now... I learn a lot here.

-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:37 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
LAWL another loser moron.

---Original Message---

From: James McKenna
Date: 04/24/06 16:50:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Dude... who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself? No one cares what
you do. No one cares how good you are at online chess (which is hardly
something I'd be bragging about in the first place).

Just leave. Please. No one wants to know about your screen plays, and no one
cares about how you can multitask. To sum it up, no one cares about how
massive you think your e-penis is.

Please, so we can get back to using this medium for what it was established
for, just go away. Please.


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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Chris Bass

Or we could all just stop feeding the troll and he will go back under
his bridge.

Bud Ingram wrote:


From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run



--
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I have more fun then should be legal,   this year ill be playing at
least
6
events on the AGspanos golf tour and then in between events ill be on
the
road playing 9ball and one pocket.



http://www.gaysports.com/page.cfm?sectionid=18parent=1


You see theres the Rub,  if you haven't broken bread with the person or
hung
out with them, then you really can't know what a person thinks or why
they
act the way they do.

I have so many irons in the fire many many people think im just totally
full
of shit.
I'm also in the process of writing two different screen plays.



www.queendom.com/test/minitests/fx/egomania.html


When I have a few free minutes to check on my servers, I respond to
emails
I
think need a resonse.

This is not my life, it just seems that way because I'm able to
multitask
like an animal.
And in a few weeks ill be traveling arounfd the US and possibly to
another
country and then no one will here from me fro quite a while.   I'm sure
all
of you will be please I wont be around.



www.osric.com/university/pathlying.html


P.S. I misspelled around (arounfd)  just to annoy Edward  Luna.   :P

Oh and BTW if any of you play chess online I'm rated a 2200 almost a
master
and I play for money.
Let me know if you want to hook up and play.  You must have an
account in
order to play though.



www.proenhance.com

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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread L.o.D.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Why is this jackass still even here?
Or is he here merely for the enjoyment of others to laugh at him?

 Because we all are laughing at you. I'm sure even Alfred is as well.
You rag on us about how anyone that plays games or is a server admin are
losers  yet, here you are. You trying for the lead loser spot?
You already have that won, hands down.
---Original Message---

From: kyle
Date: 04/24/06 19:27:32
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Your reply confirms what i have already said, your a moron.
So big deal, I'm not that great of a typist, leave it to some Internet loser
to not even address the post but to rag on the fact that I have bad spelling
and typing.   That's the first thing most ignorant Internet losers do when
they find out there a moron.

Ahhaha duh you spelled wrong, your an idiot.   GG dick head.

Open mouth more and prove your a bigger lamer.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 04/24/06 14:07:49
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Very entertaining Kyle...

You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to let them
know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.

No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for itself.

However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen to
what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing the
complaining.


I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last paragraph of
your post

 So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.

So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and you're
currently 41.  Does that mean your retired at 30, and if so... how old were
you when you took the job with the police... 10?  Also, retired at 30; where
did you get the money?  Lotto... or are they paying Oakland Police officers
really well these days?


-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:19 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just do
it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working man

I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
1992.
I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel etc.
And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
mouths.

Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
(THIS MEANS YOU)

In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and server
admin's really are.

The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that there
not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in denial
due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
morality...

Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world outside
your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact with
each other for the worse.  Not the better.

I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

Example.Remember when you were a little kid and you knew something that
your friends didn't and when you told them they all got embarrassed because
you knew and they didn't and they didn't like you for it.

The quickest way to alienate or lose friends is to be smarter then there are
and prove it to them time and time again.   People don't like to feel dumb
and that's what I have done here in these forums.
Sorry for simply stating the truth.

And if I have made any mistakes or errors in my reply's it was due to the
fact that we have been talking in cross

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Whisper
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I'm sorry, it's my fault

I've created a monster

On 4/25/06, L.o.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Why is this jackass still even here?
 Or is he here merely for the enjoyment of others to laugh at him?

 Because we all are laughing at you. I'm sure even Alfred is as well.
 You rag on us about how anyone that plays games or is a server admin are
 losers  yet, here you are. You trying for the lead loser spot?
 You already have that won, hands down.
 ---Original Message---

 From: kyle
 Date: 04/24/06 19:27:32
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Your reply confirms what i have already said, your a moron.
 So big deal, I'm not that great of a typist, leave it to some Internet
 loser
 to not even address the post but to rag on the fact that I have bad
 spelling
 and typing.   That's the first thing most ignorant Internet losers do when
 they find out there a moron.

 Ahhaha duh you spelled wrong, your an idiot.   GG dick head.

 Open mouth more and prove your a bigger lamer.

 ---Original Message---

 From: Edward Luna
 Date: 04/24/06 14:07:49
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 Very entertaining Kyle...

 You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
 do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to let
 them
 know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.

 No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
 diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for itself.

 However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen to
 what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
 content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing the
 complaining.


 I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last paragraph of
 your post

  So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
 different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
 and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
 ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.

 So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and you're
 currently 41.  Does that mean your retired at 30, and if so... how old
 were
 you when you took the job with the police... 10?  Also, retired at 30;
 where
 did you get the money?  Lotto... or are they paying Oakland Police
 officers
 really well these days?


 -Original Message-
 From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:19 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


 --

 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
 do
 it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
 The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working
 man

 I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
 1992.
 I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel
 etc.
 And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

 Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

 I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
 server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
 purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
 mouths.

 Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
 freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
 there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
 (THIS MEANS YOU)

 In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
 about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and
 server
 admin's really are.

 The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that
 there
 not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in
 denial
 due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
 morality...

 Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
 you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world
 outside
 your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact
 with
 each other for the worse.  Not the better.

 I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
 beings and what's really sad is they don't care.

 Example.Remember when you were a little kid and you knew something
 that
 your friends didn't and when you told them they all got embarrassed
 because
 you knew and they didn't and they didn't like you for it.

 The quickest way to alienate or lose friends is to be smarter then there
 are
 and prove it to them

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread L.o.D.
--
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I think he beat you to that one.
He doesn't need help to be a jackass.
Since when do 41 year olds use LAWL or any online slang?

---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 04/24/06 23:47:05
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I'm sorry, it's my fault

I've created a monster

On 4/25/06, L.o.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Why is this jackass still even here?
 Or is he here merely for the enjoyment of others to laugh at him?

 Because we all are laughing at you. I'm sure even Alfred is as well.
 You rag on us about how anyone that plays games or is a server admin are
 losers  yet, here you are. You trying for the lead loser spot?
 You already have that won, hands down.
 ---Original Message---

 From: kyle
 Date: 04/24/06 19:27:32
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Your reply confirms what i have already said, your a moron.
 So big deal, I'm not that great of a typist, leave it to some Internet
 loser
 to not even address the post but to rag on the fact that I have bad
 spelling
 and typing.   That's the first thing most ignorant Internet losers do when
 they find out there a moron.

 Ahhaha duh you spelled wrong, your an idiot.   GG dick head.

 Open mouth more and prove your a bigger lamer.

 ---Original Message---

 From: Edward Luna
 Date: 04/24/06 14:07:49
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 Very entertaining Kyle...

 You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
 do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to let
 them
 know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.

 No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
 diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for itself.

 However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen to
 what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
 content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing the
 complaining.


 I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last paragraph of
 your post

  So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
 different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police officer,
 and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then maybe
 ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.

 So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and you're
 currently 41.  Does that mean your retired at 30, and if so... how old
 were
 you when you took the job with the police... 10?  Also, retired at 30;
 where
 did you get the money?  Lotto... or are they paying Oakland Police
 officers
 really well these days?


 -Original Message-
 From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:19 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


 --

 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I just
 do
 it to make there stomach ache and to let them know there morons.
 The problem is all of you come from the standpoint of the common working
 man

 I'm not common nor do I have to work, I haven't had to work since July of
 1992.
 I dabble at my hobbies golf  billiards gaming and other things travel
 etc.
 And I haven't lost control of anything since I was 13.

 Your projecting your own thoughts Edward.LAWL

 I would say that around 65% of people who play online FPS games and 85% of
 server admin's are complete and total losers and need to run right out and
 purchase a gas autoloading shotgun and point it directly into there own
 mouths.

 Talk about the absolute bottom of the barrel of humanity, total control
 freak power tripping ego maniacs that feel the need to get off and raise
 there self esteem through posting in Internet forums.
 (THIS MEANS YOU)

 In the coming years there will be a massive study that will be released
 about how totally pathetic Internet users and in specific gamers and
 server
 admin's really are.

 The funny thing is that most software creators/game makers think that
 there
 not in this class of Internet user but they are and they are just in
 denial
 due to the fact that they make the games and feel they have a higher
 morality...

 Stop playing games and working all day to support your self and then maybe
 you'll have time to start reading and learning about the real world
 outside
 your PC  and about how the Internet is changing the way people interact
 with
 each other for the worse.  Not the better.

 I seriously don't think anyone on these forums knows anything about human
 beings and what's really sad is they don't

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Whisper
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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
No no no.  There is no tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for
SRCDS.
Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be utilized
in the CMD line.

Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in either
the CMD line or the server.cfg

There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

What the hell are you people smoking crack.

No one here is or has ever mentioned the piece of crap addon manimod.

The only disscussion up to this point was the command tickrate and or
ticrate.
And your another fucking loser for thinking its tickrate.  Just go stick a
gun in your mouth ok.

And for SRCDS its neither or those,  its FPS_max.and that command can
only be utilized thru the CMD line.  Not in the server config. I have
tested this many times in many ways with both win 2000 and fedora.   You
people are just patheticly lame to talk about crap you have not tested.


Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and
there is no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD
line or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice day
while your at it.


Well I could not believe that anybody was that misinformed or just plain
stupid about the function of tickrate in SRCDS (even when presented with all
the documentation to the contrary) to actually believe some of these
priceless quotes, so I naturally assumed that Kyle was merely trolling for
attention or something.

I am a big enough man to admit when I am wrong.

On 4/25/06, L.o.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 I think he beat you to that one.
 He doesn't need help to be a jackass.
 Since when do 41 year olds use LAWL or any online slang?

 ---Original Message---

 From: Whisper
 Date: 04/24/06 23:47:05
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 I'm sorry, it's my fault

 I've created a monster

 On 4/25/06, L.o.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Why is this jackass still even here?
  Or is he here merely for the enjoyment of others to laugh at him?
 
  Because we all are laughing at you. I'm sure even Alfred is as well.
  You rag on us about how anyone that plays games or is a server admin are
  losers  yet, here you are. You trying for the lead loser spot?
  You already have that won, hands down.
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: kyle
  Date: 04/24/06 19:27:32
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Your reply confirms what i have already said, your a moron.
  So big deal, I'm not that great of a typist, leave it to some Internet
  loser
  to not even address the post but to rag on the fact that I have bad
  spelling
  and typing.   That's the first thing most ignorant Internet losers do
 when
  they find out there a moron.
 
  Ahhaha duh you spelled wrong, your an idiot.   GG dick head.
 
  Open mouth more and prove your a bigger lamer.
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: Edward Luna
  Date: 04/24/06 14:07:49
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  Very entertaining Kyle...
 
  You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I
 just
  do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to let
  them
  know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.
 
  No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
  diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for itself.
 
  However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen to
  what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
  content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing the
  complaining.
 
 
  I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last paragraph
 of
  your post
 
   So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to 19
  different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police
 officer,
  and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then
 maybe
  ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.
 
  So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and
 you're
  currently 41.  Does that mean your retired at 30, and if so... how old
  were
  you when you took the job with the police... 10?  Also, retired at 30;
  where
  did you get the money?  Lotto... or are they paying Oakland Police
  officers
  really well these days?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:19 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-24 Thread Dustin Tuft

Now be carefull Whisper, next Kyle will use all his police force ablities
and acuse you of altering his orginal e-mail.He might have to put in a
call to the FBI for help on this excelent fake.

Dustin Tuft


From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:12:58 +1000

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
No no no.  There is no tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for
SRCDS.
Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be
utilized
in the CMD line.

Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in either
the CMD line or the server.cfg

There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

What the hell are you people smoking crack.

No one here is or has ever mentioned the piece of crap addon manimod.

The only disscussion up to this point was the command tickrate and or
ticrate.
And your another fucking loser for thinking its tickrate.  Just go stick a
gun in your mouth ok.

And for SRCDS its neither or those,  its FPS_max.and that command can
only be utilized thru the CMD line.  Not in the server config. I have
tested this many times in many ways with both win 2000 and fedora.
You
people are just patheticly lame to talk about crap you have not tested.


Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and
there is no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD
line or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice day
while your at it.


Well I could not believe that anybody was that misinformed or just plain
stupid about the function of tickrate in SRCDS (even when presented with
all
the documentation to the contrary) to actually believe some of these
priceless quotes, so I naturally assumed that Kyle was merely trolling for
attention or something.

I am a big enough man to admit when I am wrong.

On 4/25/06, L.o.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 I think he beat you to that one.
 He doesn't need help to be a jackass.
 Since when do 41 year olds use LAWL or any online slang?

 ---Original Message---

 From: Whisper
 Date: 04/24/06 23:47:05
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 I'm sorry, it's my fault

 I've created a monster

 On 4/25/06, L.o.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Why is this jackass still even here?
  Or is he here merely for the enjoyment of others to laugh at him?
 
  Because we all are laughing at you. I'm sure even Alfred is as well.
  You rag on us about how anyone that plays games or is a server admin
are
  losers  yet, here you are. You trying for the lead loser spot?
  You already have that won, hands down.
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: kyle
  Date: 04/24/06 19:27:32
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Your reply confirms what i have already said, your a moron.
  So big deal, I'm not that great of a typist, leave it to some Internet
  loser
  to not even address the post but to rag on the fact that I have bad
  spelling
  and typing.   That's the first thing most ignorant Internet losers do
 when
  they find out there a moron.
 
  Ahhaha duh you spelled wrong, your an idiot.   GG dick head.
 
  Open mouth more and prove your a bigger lamer.
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: Edward Luna
  Date: 04/24/06 14:07:49
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  Very entertaining Kyle...
 
  You think I'm angry because I'm swearing and insulting others. I
 just
  do it to make there (I assume you meant their)  stomach ache and to
let
  them
  know there (I assume you meant they're) morons.
 
  No need to point out the copious remaining grammatical errors in your
  diatribe about how everyone else is a moron, the text speaks for
itself.
 
  However, for those who care about such things... one need only listen
to
  what a person complains most about in others,  with strong emotional
  content, and you'll expose a window into the psyche of the one doing
the
  complaining.
 
 
  I must admit though, I'm very curious my friend.  In the last
paragraph
 of
  your post
 
   So in closing when you have been retired for over 10 years, been to
19
  different countries, have an IQ of 156, are ex Oakland ca police
 officer,
  and have enough money to never have to work again in your life, then
 maybe
  ill (I assume you meant I'll) think about what you have to say.
 
  So you're an ex Oakland police officer... retired over 10 years and
 you're
  currently 41.  Does

RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
It has been said many time's in many forums that you can only set your
sys_ticrate in the cmd line and maybe this is true for SRCDS  but its just
not so for hl1 mods.   Unless my console is lying to me.
Because when I set it in the server.cfg the console says the ticrate is what
its in the server config.

And as the text I posted from the steam support forums says,  its ticrate
and not tickrate.
For both SRCDS and HLDS.   Neener Neener Neener.:P   :)
---Original Message---

From: Frazer
Date: 04/22/06 15:02:49
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)

At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring to the
command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be -tickrate and, if
I understand correctly, the only place and only time you can specify this
setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the command line when you
start it.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from the
steam support web site.
If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.

SERVER FPS CONTROL
HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.

HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per second
are rendered.

SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per second are
rendered.

Why do you need to control this?

There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The number one
reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS the higher the load
If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization with your current FPS
settings, you are either running too many players or you have the FPS set
too high.

HLDS Servers start with a default of 60FPS and can easily run up to 1000FPS
(sys_ticrate 1000)

SRCDS Servers start with a default of 300FPS can can also run up to 1000FPS
but will require a substantially higher performance CPU to support this.

Win32 Servers should be run on WIN2K / XP Pro platforms with HLDS on a 1
8GHz CPU and a minimum of 512MB of RAM and SRCDS Servers should be run on 2
2GHz CPUs minimum with 512MB of RAM.

You see any sys_tickrates in there dumbass.  Fucking know it all,  get a
life beyond an Internet forum.


---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 04/22/06 05:47:15
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] lol

srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers 32
 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret


That whole command line is all for SOURCE, even the tickrate part is correct
for SOURCE

On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Omfg.  dod NOT dods.

 Patched registry manually - but did not update .reg file when
 reinstalling srvany service.

 Thanks for your help, Whisper - a great wiki doc no matter how stupid
 the instigator :)

 F.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:33 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nope, its SRCDS,
 completely incorrect

 On 4/22/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's -ticrate if
  I'm correct. No k. :)
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: Frazer
  Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  Nice work, Whisper.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
  Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:32 AM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Look what you made
  me go and do Frazer
 
 
  http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HL
  DS
  -SRCDS
 
  It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the camels
  back :p
 
  On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.
   I will test again in the morning.
  
   My command line arguments are in the app parameters in the
   registry for my srvany wrapper, but the equivalent command line,
   which I also tried directly from the command prompt is:
  
   srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600
   +maxplayers
   32 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret
  
   This has not changed since before the problem surfaced tonight.
  
  
   Frazer
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
   Sent: Friday

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread Ian mu
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Can't work out if people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.

It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it can
be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I believe can be set on
commmandline with + or in the config, but someone will correct me on that
one).


On 4/23/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 It has been said many time's in many forums that you can only set your
 sys_ticrate in the cmd line and maybe this is true for SRCDS  but its just
 not so for hl1 mods.   Unless my console is lying to me.
 Because when I set it in the server.cfg the console says the ticrate is
 what
 its in the server config.

 And as the text I posted from the steam support forums says,  its ticrate
 and not tickrate.
 For both SRCDS and HLDS.   Neener Neener Neener.:P   :)
 ---Original Message---

 From: Frazer
 Date: 04/22/06 15:02:49
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)

 At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring to
 the
 command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be -tickrate and,
 if
 I understand correctly, the only place and only time you can specify this
 setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the command line when you
 start it.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from the
 steam support web site.
 If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.

 SERVER FPS CONTROL
 HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.

 HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per
 second
 are rendered.

 SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per second
 are
 rendered.

 Why do you need to control this?

 There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The number
 one
 reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS the higher the
 load
 If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization with your current FPS
 settings, you are either running too many players or you have the FPS set
 too high.

 HLDS Servers start with a default of 60FPS and can easily run up to
 1000FPS
 (sys_ticrate 1000)

 SRCDS Servers start with a default of 300FPS can can also run up to
 1000FPS
 but will require a substantially higher performance CPU to support this.

 Win32 Servers should be run on WIN2K / XP Pro platforms with HLDS on a 1
 8GHz CPU and a minimum of 512MB of RAM and SRCDS Servers should be run on
 2
 2GHz CPUs minimum with 512MB of RAM.

 You see any sys_tickrates in there dumbass.  Fucking know it all,  get a
 life beyond an Internet forum.


 ---Original Message---

 From: Whisper
 Date: 04/22/06 05:47:15
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] lol

 srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers 32
  -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret
 

 That whole command line is all for SOURCE, even the tickrate part is
 correct
 for SOURCE

 On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Omfg.  dod NOT dods.
 
  Patched registry manually - but did not update .reg file when
  reinstalling srvany service.
 
  Thanks for your help, Whisper - a great wiki doc no matter how stupid
  the instigator :)
 
  F.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
  Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:33 AM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nope, its SRCDS,
  completely incorrect
 
  On 4/22/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's -ticrate if
   I'm correct. No k. :)
  
   ---Original Message---
  
   From: Frazer
   Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
  
   Nice work, Whisper.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
   Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:32 AM
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
  
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Look what you made
   me go and do Frazer
  
  
   http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HL
   DS
   -SRCDS
  
   It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the camels
   back :p
  
   On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.
I will test again in the morning.
   
My

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
No no no.  There is no tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for
SRCDS.
Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be utilized
in the CMD line.

Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in either
the CMD line or the server.cfg

There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

What the hell are you people smoking crack.



---Original Message---

From: Ian mu
Date: 04/23/06 03:10:34
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Can't work out if people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.

It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it can
be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I believe can be set on
commmandline with + or in the config, but someone will correct me on that
one).


On 4/23/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 It has been said many time's in many forums that you can only set your
 sys_ticrate in the cmd line and maybe this is true for SRCDS  but its just
 not so for hl1 mods.   Unless my console is lying to me.
 Because when I set it in the server.cfg the console says the ticrate is
 what
 its in the server config.

 And as the text I posted from the steam support forums says,  its ticrate
 and not tickrate.
 For both SRCDS and HLDS.   Neener Neener Neener.:P   :)
 ---Original Message---

 From: Frazer
 Date: 04/22/06 15:02:49
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)

 At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring to
 the
 command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be -tickrate and,
 if
 I understand correctly, the only place and only time you can specify this
 setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the command line when you
 start it.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from the
 steam support web site.
 If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.

 SERVER FPS CONTROL
 HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.

 HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per
 second
 are rendered.

 SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per second
 are
 rendered.

 Why do you need to control this?

 There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The number
 one
 reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS the higher the
 load
 If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization with your current FPS
 settings, you are either running too many players or you have the FPS set
 too high.

 HLDS Servers start with a default of 60FPS and can easily run up to
 1000FPS
 (sys_ticrate 1000)

 SRCDS Servers start with a default of 300FPS can can also run up to
 1000FPS
 but will require a substantially higher performance CPU to support this.

 Win32 Servers should be run on WIN2K / XP Pro platforms with HLDS on a 1
 8GHz CPU and a minimum of 512MB of RAM and SRCDS Servers should be run on
 2
 2GHz CPUs minimum with 512MB of RAM.

 You see any sys_tickrates in there dumbass.  Fucking know it all,  get a
 life beyond an Internet forum.


 ---Original Message---

 From: Whisper
 Date: 04/22/06 05:47:15
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] lol

 srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers 32
  -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret
 

 That whole command line is all for SOURCE, even the tickrate part is
 correct
 for SOURCE

 On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Omfg.  dod NOT dods.
 
  Patched registry manually - but did not update .reg file when
  reinstalling srvany service.
 
  Thanks for your help, Whisper - a great wiki doc no matter how stupid
  the instigator :)
 
  F.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
  Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:33 AM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nope, its SRCDS,
  completely incorrect
 
  On 4/22/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's -ticrate if
   I'm correct. No k. :)
  
   ---Original Message---
  
   From: Frazer
   Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
  
   Nice work, Whisper.
  
   -Original Message-
   From

RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread Adam Sando
Right, so let me get this right...

There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS? This statement is correct unless
you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large percentage of
SRCDS servers are).

SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period. Uses it period for what
exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
does matter, however so does tickrate...

and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line. Disagree. Have you
actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!

there has never been any command tickrate ever. LOL... So the
-tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
pass the time, and give us something to talk about?

You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no idea
what you are actually talking about.

If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
further embarrassment.

gg noob.

Cheers,
Adam.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No no no.  There is no
tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for SRCDS.
Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be
utilized
in the CMD line.

Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in
either the CMD line or the server.cfg

There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

What the hell are you people smoking crack.



---Original Message---

From: Ian mu
Date: 04/23/06 03:10:34
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can't work out if
people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.

It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it
can be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I believe can be set on
commmandline with + or in the config, but someone will correct me on
that one).


On 4/23/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It has been said many

 time's in many forums that you can only set your sys_ticrate in the
 cmd line and maybe this is true for SRCDS  but its just
 not so for hl1 mods.   Unless my console is lying to me.
 Because when I set it in the server.cfg the console says the ticrate
 is what its in the server config.

 And as the text I posted from the steam support forums says,  its
 ticrate and not tickrate.
 For both SRCDS and HLDS.   Neener Neener Neener.:P   :)
 ---Original Message---

 From: Frazer
 Date: 04/22/06 15:02:49
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)

 At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring
 to the command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be
 -tickrate and, if I understand correctly, the only place and only time

 you can specify this setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the

 command line when you start it.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from

 the steam support web site.
 If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.

 SERVER FPS CONTROL
 HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.

 HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per
 second are rendered.

 SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per
 second are rendered.

 Why do you need to control this?

 There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The
 number one reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS
 the higher the load If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization
 with your current FPS settings, you are either running too many
 players or you have the FPS set too high.

 HLDS Servers start with a default of 60FPS and can easily run up to
 1000FPS (sys_ticrate 1000)

 SRCDS Servers start with a default of 300FPS can can also run up to
 1000FPS but will require a substantially higher performance CPU to
 support this.

 Win32 Servers should be run on WIN2K / XP Pro platforms with HLDS on a

 1 8GHz CPU and a minimum of 512MB of RAM and SRCDS Servers should be
 run on
 2
 2GHz CPUs minimum with 512MB of RAM.

 You see any sys_tickrates in there dumbass.  Fucking know it all,  get

 a life beyond an Internet forum.


 ---Original Message---

 From: Whisper
 Date: 04/22/06 05:47:15
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] lol

 srcds.exe

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread Whisper
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Kyle is just stirring shit for the hell of it.

If you can be led astray by what Kyle is saying about SRCDS please have a
read of: http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Tickrate

Cheers

On 4/23/06, Adam Sando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Right, so let me get this right...

 There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS? This statement is correct unless
 you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large percentage of
 SRCDS servers are).

 SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period. Uses it period for what
 exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
 does matter, however so does tickrate...

 and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line. Disagree. Have you
 actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
 actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!

 there has never been any command tickrate ever. LOL... So the
 -tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
 pass the time, and give us something to talk about?

 You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no idea
 what you are actually talking about.

 If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
 further embarrassment.

 gg noob.

 Cheers,
 Adam.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No no no.  There is no
 tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for SRCDS.
 Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
 SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be
 utilized
 in the CMD line.

 Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in
 either the CMD line or the server.cfg

 There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

 What the hell are you people smoking crack.



 ---Original Message---

 From: Ian mu
 Date: 04/23/06 03:10:34
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can't work out if
 people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.

 It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it
 can be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I believe can be set on
 commmandline with + or in the config, but someone will correct me on
 that one).


 On 4/23/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It has been said many

  time's in many forums that you can only set your sys_ticrate in the
  cmd line and maybe this is true for SRCDS  but its just
  not so for hl1 mods.   Unless my console is lying to me.
  Because when I set it in the server.cfg the console says the ticrate
  is what its in the server config.
 
  And as the text I posted from the steam support forums says,  its
  ticrate and not tickrate.
  For both SRCDS and HLDS.   Neener Neener Neener.:P   :)
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: Frazer
  Date: 04/22/06 15:02:49
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)
 
  At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring
  to the command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be
  -tickrate and, if I understand correctly, the only place and only time

  you can specify this setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the

  command line when you start it.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
  Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from

  the steam support web site.
  If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.
 
  SERVER FPS CONTROL
  HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.
 
  HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per
  second are rendered.
 
  SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per
  second are rendered.
 
  Why do you need to control this?
 
  There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The
  number one reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS
  the higher the load If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization
  with your current FPS settings, you are either running too many
  players or you have the FPS set too high.
 
  HLDS Servers start with a default of 60FPS and can easily run up to
  1000FPS (sys_ticrate 1000)
 
  SRCDS Servers start with a default of 300FPS can can also run up to
  1000FPS but will require a substantially higher performance CPU to
  support this.
 
  Win32 Servers should be run on WIN2K / XP Pro platforms with HLDS on a

  1 8GHz CPU and a minimum of 512MB

RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and
there is no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD
line or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice day
while your at it.

---Original Message---

From: Adam Sando
Date: 04/23/06 05:48:07
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Right, so let me get this right...

There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS? This statement is correct unless
you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large percentage of
SRCDS servers are).

SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period. Uses it period for what
exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
does matter, however so does tickrate...

and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line. Disagree. Have you
actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!

there has never been any command tickrate ever. LOL... So the
-tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
pass the time, and give us something to talk about?

You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no idea
what you are actually talking about.

If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
further embarrassment.

gg noob.

Cheers,
Adam.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No no no.  There is no
tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for SRCDS.
Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be
utilized
in the CMD line.

Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in
either the CMD line or the server.cfg

There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

What the hell are you people smoking crack.



---Original Message---

From: Ian mu
Date: 04/23/06 03:10:34
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can't work out if
people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.

It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it
can be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I believe can be set on
commmandline with + or in the config, but someone will correct me on
that one).


On 4/23/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It has been said many

 time's in many forums that you can only set your sys_ticrate in the
 cmd line and maybe this is true for SRCDS  but its just
 not so for hl1 mods.   Unless my console is lying to me.
 Because when I set it in the server.cfg the console says the ticrate
 is what its in the server config.

 And as the text I posted from the steam support forums says,  its
 ticrate and not tickrate.
 For both SRCDS and HLDS.   Neener Neener Neener.:P   :)
 ---Original Message---

 From: Frazer
 Date: 04/22/06 15:02:49
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)

 At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring
 to the command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be
 -tickrate and, if I understand correctly, the only place and only time

 you can specify this setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the

 command line when you start it.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from

 the steam support web site.
 If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.

 SERVER FPS CONTROL
 HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.

 HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per
 second are rendered.

 SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per
 second are rendered.

 Why do you need to control this?

 There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The
 number one reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS
 the higher the load If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization
 with your current FPS settings, you are either running too many
 players or you have the FPS set too high.

 HLDS Servers start with a default of 60FPS and can easily run up to
 1000FPS (sys_ticrate 1000)

 SRCDS Servers start with a default of 300FPS can can also run up to
 1000FPS but will require a substantially higher performance CPU to
 support this.

 Win32 Servers should be run

RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread Wolvie
This the types of responses that should be an auto ban from this mailing
list..

-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:10 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and
there is no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD
line or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice day
while your at it.

---Original Message---

From: Adam Sando
Date: 04/23/06 05:48:07
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Right, so let me get this right...

There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS? This statement is correct unless
you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large percentage of
SRCDS servers are).

SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period. Uses it period for what
exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
does matter, however so does tickrate...

and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line. Disagree. Have you
actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!

there has never been any command tickrate ever. LOL... So the
-tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
pass the time, and give us something to talk about?

You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no idea
what you are actually talking about.

If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
further embarrassment.

gg noob.

Cheers,
Adam.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No no no.  There is no
tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for SRCDS.
Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be
utilized
in the CMD line.

Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in
either the CMD line or the server.cfg

There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

What the hell are you people smoking crack.



---Original Message---

From: Ian mu
Date: 04/23/06 03:10:34
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can't work out if
people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.

It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it
can be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I believe can be set on
commmandline with + or in the config, but someone will correct me on
that one).


On 4/23/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It has been said many

 time's in many forums that you can only set your sys_ticrate in the
 cmd line and maybe this is true for SRCDS  but its just
 not so for hl1 mods.   Unless my console is lying to me.
 Because when I set it in the server.cfg the console says the ticrate
 is what its in the server config.

 And as the text I posted from the steam support forums says,  its
 ticrate and not tickrate.
 For both SRCDS and HLDS.   Neener Neener Neener.:P   :)
 ---Original Message---

 From: Frazer
 Date: 04/22/06 15:02:49
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)

 At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring
 to the command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be
 -tickrate and, if I understand correctly, the only place and only time

 you can specify this setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the

 command line when you start it.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from

 the steam support web site.
 If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.

 SERVER FPS CONTROL
 HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.

 HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per
 second are rendered.

 SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per
 second are rendered.

 Why do you need to control this?

 There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The
 number one reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS
 the higher the load If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization
 with your current FPS settings, you are either running too many
 players or you have the FPS set too high.

 HLDS Servers

RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread L.o.D.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Wow, you are a tool.

 The server admin may override the default tickrate with the -tickrate
command line parameter, though tickrate changes done this way are not
recommended because the mod may not work as designed if its tickrate is
changed.

Taken from http://developer.valvesoftware
com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Basic_Networking

Tell us again how there's no command to change the ticrate

---Original Message---

From: kyle
Date: 04/23/06 17:11:47
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and
there is no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD
line or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice day
while your at it.

---Original Message---

From: Adam Sando
Date: 04/23/06 05:48:07
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Right, so let me get this right...

There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS? This statement is correct unless
you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large percentage of
SRCDS servers are).

SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period. Uses it period for what
exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
does matter, however so does tickrate...

and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line. Disagree. Have you
actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!

there has never been any command tickrate ever. LOL... So the
-tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
pass the time, and give us something to talk about?

You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no idea
what you are actually talking about.

If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
further embarrassment.

gg noob.

Cheers,
Adam.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No no no.  There is no
tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for SRCDS.
Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be
utilized
in the CMD line.

Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in
either the CMD line or the server.cfg

There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

What the hell are you people smoking crack.



---Original Message---

From: Ian mu
Date: 04/23/06 03:10:34
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can't work out if
people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.

It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it
can be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I believe can be set on
commmandline with + or in the config, but someone will correct me on
that one).


On 4/23/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It has been said many

 time's in many forums that you can only set your sys_ticrate in the
 cmd line and maybe this is true for SRCDS  but its just
 not so for hl1 mods.   Unless my console is lying to me.
 Because when I set it in the server.cfg the console says the ticrate
 is what its in the server config.

 And as the text I posted from the steam support forums says,  its
 ticrate and not tickrate.
 For both SRCDS and HLDS.   Neener Neener Neener.:P   :)
 ---Original Message---

 From: Frazer
 Date: 04/22/06 15:02:49
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)

 At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring
 to the command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be
 -tickrate and, if I understand correctly, the only place and only time

 you can specify this setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the

 command line when you start it.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from

 the steam support web site.
 If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.

 SERVER FPS CONTROL
 HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.

 HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per
 second are rendered.

 SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per
 second are rendered.

 Why do you need to control

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Ahha your an idiot and cannot read a simple forum post.When I said there
was no command with tick or tic I was referring too the commands tickrate
and or ticrate.
Get it through your fuking head already there is no command for SRCDS with
any form of tic or tick in it.

Who in the fuck raised you, you are so stupid, you need to kill your self
right now.
You worthless piece of crap.Yet another case of the stupid trying to
make others think there not.

Can I be an asshole, yes I can. Can I be dumb, yes from time to time.
The huge difference between me and most of you, is that I can admit it when
I am.

Just give up on life already, everyone who is wrong about there statements
in this thread yet continues to argue there case needs to just drive off a
cliff.

I join forums for two things to get help and to give help.It would seem
that this forum is just like the steam and DOD forums.   People making posts
to make themselves look smarter and make others feel dumb and people who
have absolutely no lives at all.

Even though I have used many expletives to describe my disgust with those of
you who have so ignorantly exspressed them selves in this thread, I will no
longer perpetuate the stupidity that grows from it.  Good fucking
riddance.

I appoligise to Alfred and the adults who run and frequent these forums for
my expletive outburst's but I have simply had it with losers such as the
ones who have posted replys in this thread.

At 41 YOA and retired I no longer have the patience to deal with stupid
people.



---Original Message---

From: Brandon R. Miller
Date: 04/23/06 14:22:41
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

You are correct there is no command that is tick or tic it is tickrate


The following can only be set in the command line. Typing them in console
does nothing.
-tickrate 66
-tickrate 100

Now quietly remove yourself from this list.

Brandon

- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and
 there is no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD
 line or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

 SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice day
 while your at it.

 ---Original Message---

 From: Adam Sando
 Date: 04/23/06 05:48:07
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 Right, so let me get this right...

 There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS? This statement is correct unless
 you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large percentage of
 SRCDS servers are).

 SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period. Uses it period for what
 exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
 does matter, however so does tickrate...

 and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line. Disagree. Have you
 actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
 actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!

 there has never been any command tickrate ever. LOL... So the
 -tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
 pass the time, and give us something to talk about?

 You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no idea
 what you are actually talking about.

 If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
 further embarrassment.

 gg noob.

 Cheers,
 Adam.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No no no.  There is no
 tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for SRCDS.
 Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
 SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be
 utilized
 in the CMD line.

 Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in
 either the CMD line or the server.cfg

 There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

 What the hell are you people smoking crack.



 ---Original Message---

 From: Ian mu
 Date: 04/23/06 03:10:34
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can't work out if
 people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.

 It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it
 can be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I believe can be set on
 commmandline with + or in the config, but someone will correct me on
 that one).


 On 4/23/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It has been said many

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread L.o.D.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Yet again, Kyle proves he's a dumbass.
Read this link  http://developer.valvesoftware
com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Basic_Networking

It's from Valve themselves  they stae that there IS a command -tickrate for
source. Get off your fucking highhorse  get off the mailing list already.

BTW, it's not YOUR, it's YOU'RE. You claim to be an adult  nyet you're
illiterate.
---Original Message---

From: kyle
Date: 04/23/06 17:59:03
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Ahha your an idiot and cannot read a simple forum post.When I said there
was no command with tick or tic I was referring too the commands tickrate
and or ticrate.
Get it through your fuking head already there is no command for SRCDS with
any form of tic or tick in it.

Who in the fuck raised you, you are so stupid, you need to kill your self
right now.
You worthless piece of crap.Yet another case of the stupid trying to
make others think there not.

Can I be an asshole, yes I can. Can I be dumb, yes from time to time.
The huge difference between me and most of you, is that I can admit it when
I am.

Just give up on life already, everyone who is wrong about there statements
in this thread yet continues to argue there case needs to just drive off a
cliff.

I join forums for two things to get help and to give help.It would seem
that this forum is just like the steam and DOD forums.   People making posts
to make themselves look smarter and make others feel dumb and people who
have absolutely no lives at all.

Even though I have used many expletives to describe my disgust with those of
you who have so ignorantly exspressed them selves in this thread, I will no
longer perpetuate the stupidity that grows from it.  Good fucking
riddance.

I appoligise to Alfred and the adults who run and frequent these forums for
my expletive outburst's but I have simply had it with losers such as the
ones who have posted replys in this thread.

At 41 YOA and retired I no longer have the patience to deal with stupid
people.



---Original Message---

From: Brandon R. Miller
Date: 04/23/06 14:22:41
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

You are correct there is no command that is tick or tic it is tickrate


The following can only be set in the command line. Typing them in console
does nothing.
-tickrate 66
-tickrate 100

Now quietly remove yourself from this list.

Brandon

- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and
 there is no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD
 line or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

 SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice day
 while your at it.

 ---Original Message---

 From: Adam Sando
 Date: 04/23/06 05:48:07
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 Right, so let me get this right...

 There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS? This statement is correct unless
 you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large percentage of
 SRCDS servers are).

 SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period. Uses it period for what
 exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
 does matter, however so does tickrate...

 and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line. Disagree. Have you
 actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
 actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!

 there has never been any command tickrate ever. LOL... So the
 -tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
 pass the time, and give us something to talk about?

 You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no idea
 what you are actually talking about.

 If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
 further embarrassment.

 gg noob.

 Cheers,
 Adam.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No no no.  There is no
 tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for SRCDS.
 Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
 SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be
 utilized
 in the CMD line.

 Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in
 either the CMD line or the server.cfg

 There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

 What the hell are you people smoking crack.



 ---Original Message---

 From: Ian mu
 Date

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread James McKenna

He meant 14... he just had a typo. And there is a command with tick (not
tic) in it. -tickrate. I use it for all of my servers to regulate which
servers run what tickrate. It works, I've tested it.

Claim you want help, which is why you joined the mailing list... so you
could get help... then you call everyone trying to help you a fucking
idiot.

Now retire yourself from this list.
- Original Message -
From: L.o.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Yet again, Kyle proves he's a dumbass.
Read this link  http://developer.valvesoftware
com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Basic_Networking

It's from Valve themselves  they stae that there IS a command -tickrate
for
source. Get off your fucking highhorse  get off the mailing list already.

BTW, it's not YOUR, it's YOU'RE. You claim to be an adult  nyet you're
illiterate.
---Original Message---

From: kyle
Date: 04/23/06 17:59:03
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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Ahha your an idiot and cannot read a simple forum post.When I said
there
was no command with tick or tic I was referring too the commands tickrate
and or ticrate.
Get it through your fuking head already there is no command for SRCDS with
any form of tic or tick in it.

Who in the fuck raised you, you are so stupid, you need to kill your self
right now.
You worthless piece of crap.Yet another case of the stupid trying to
make others think there not.

Can I be an asshole, yes I can. Can I be dumb, yes from time to time.
The huge difference between me and most of you, is that I can admit it
when
I am.

Just give up on life already, everyone who is wrong about there statements
in this thread yet continues to argue there case needs to just drive off a
cliff.

I join forums for two things to get help and to give help.It would
seem
that this forum is just like the steam and DOD forums.   People making
posts
to make themselves look smarter and make others feel dumb and people who
have absolutely no lives at all.

Even though I have used many expletives to describe my disgust with those
of
you who have so ignorantly exspressed them selves in this thread, I will
no
longer perpetuate the stupidity that grows from it.  Good fucking
riddance.

I appoligise to Alfred and the adults who run and frequent these forums
for
my expletive outburst's but I have simply had it with losers such as the
ones who have posted replys in this thread.

At 41 YOA and retired I no longer have the patience to deal with stupid
people.



---Original Message---

From: Brandon R. Miller
Date: 04/23/06 14:22:41
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

You are correct there is no command that is tick or tic it is
tickrate


The following can only be set in the command line. Typing them in console
does nothing.
-tickrate 66
-tickrate 100

Now quietly remove yourself from this list.

Brandon

- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run



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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and
there is no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD
line or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice day
while your at it.

---Original Message---

From: Adam Sando
Date: 04/23/06 05:48:07
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Right, so let me get this right...

There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS? This statement is correct unless
you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large percentage of
SRCDS servers are).

SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period. Uses it period for what
exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
does matter, however so does tickrate...

and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line. Disagree. Have you
actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!

there has never been any command tickrate ever. LOL... So the
-tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
pass the time, and give us something to talk about?

You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no idea
what you are actually talking about.

If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
further embarrassment.

gg noob.

Cheers,
Adam.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread L.o.D.
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You just contradicted yourself. In your previous post, you said there was no
cvar for tickrate  now you say there is one.
You don't have a fucking clue do you.
I got my info straight from Valve so I guess you think they're dumbasses.
You seem to have a facination with suicide. Maybe you should try it yourself
 rid this world of another lameass fuck as yourself.
You're one sick fuck and I do hope that Alfred removes you from here.

You're goin on about people arguing  yet, you're doing the exact same thing
 hypocrite!

---Original Message---

From: kyle
Date: 04/23/06 19:32:18
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Last night, I testedsys_ticrate,sys_tickrate,tickrate,ticrate,-tickrate
-ticrate,+tickrate.+ticrate. In the server config and in the cmd line and
the only command that worked is sys_ticrate.
It works in the CMD line or in the server.cfg.

And to quote Brandon...The following can only be set in the command
line. Typing them in console
Does nothing

Well then when I type sys_ticrate 500 in my HLDS console and the ticrate
changes from 64 to 500, then WTF is that you lame dumbass kid.

All you morons want to do is argue, you havn't even bothered testing the
actual commands in both CMD line and or server.cfg.

All you losers do is use google or wiki to copy and past text that other
dumbass's wrote.

it's amazing you can even look yourself in a mirror without wanting to
commit suicide.
Just save some face and stop posting.

Do your self a big favour Brandon start HLDS and then type sys_ticrate 500
in the console,  then youll fucking see how stupid you really are.

As for Lod, don't even get me started on how pathetic there.

---Original Message---

From: Brandon R. Miller
Date: 04/23/06 15:15:15
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

41? You act like a damn 12 year old.

As L.o.D. pointed out. Direct quote from valve.

URL: http://developer.valvesoftware
com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Basic_Networking

QUOTE: The server admin may override the default tickrate with the
-tickrate command line parameter, though tickrate changes done
this way are not recommended because the mod may not work as designed if its
tickrate is changed.

Get off this mailing list already and take some grammar courses.

Brandon

- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Ahha your an idiot and cannot read a simple forum post.When I said
there
 was no command with tick or tic I was referring too the commands tickrate
 and or ticrate.
 Get it through your fuking head already there is no command for SRCDS with
 any form of tic or tick in it.

 Who in the fuck raised you, you are so stupid, you need to kill your self
 right now.
 You worthless piece of crap.Yet another case of the stupid trying to
 make others think there not.

 Can I be an asshole, yes I can. Can I be dumb, yes from time to time.
 The huge difference between me and most of you, is that I can admit it
when
 I am.

 Just give up on life already, everyone who is wrong about there statements
 in this thread yet continues to argue there case needs to just drive off a
 cliff.

 I join forums for two things to get help and to give help.It would
seem
 that this forum is just like the steam and DOD forums.   People making
posts
 to make themselves look smarter and make others feel dumb and people who
 have absolutely no lives at all.

 Even though I have used many expletives to describe my disgust with those
of
 you who have so ignorantly exspressed them selves in this thread, I will
no
 longer perpetuate the stupidity that grows from it.  Good fucking
 riddance.

 I appoligise to Alfred and the adults who run and frequent these forums
for
 my expletive outburst's but I have simply had it with losers such as the
 ones who have posted replys in this thread.

 At 41 YOA and retired I no longer have the patience to deal with stupid
 people.



 ---Original Message---

 From: Brandon R. Miller
 Date: 04/23/06 14:22:41
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 You are correct there is no command that is tick or tic it is
tickrate


 The following can only be set in the command line. Typing them in console
 does nothing.
 -tickrate 66
 -tickrate 100

 Now quietly remove yourself from this list.

 Brandon

 - Original Message -
 From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:09 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


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 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Your a fucking moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and
 there is no command with anything tick to tic

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread Andreas Grimm
Ehm ...

LOL
ROFL
ROFLCOPTER
GROFLLOLROFL
HAHAHAHAHAH
LL
ROOFL

Sorry :)

Kyle, go play with your gameboy when u cannot understand valve's srcds
system.
Mailinglist admins should ban that users ... Absolutely useless this thread

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von kyle
Gesendet: Montag, 24. April 2006 01:29
An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Betreff: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Last night, I testedsys_ticrate,sys_tickrate,tickrate,ticrate,-tickrate
-ticrate,+tickrate.+ticrate. In the server config and in the cmd line and
the only command that worked is sys_ticrate.
It works in the CMD line or in the server.cfg.

And to quote Brandon...The following can only be set in the command
line. Typing them in console
Does nothing

Well then when I type sys_ticrate 500 in my HLDS console and the ticrate
changes from 64 to 500, then WTF is that you lame dumbass kid.

All you morons want to do is argue, you havn't even bothered testing the
actual commands in both CMD line and or server.cfg.

All you losers do is use google or wiki to copy and past text that other
dumbass's wrote.

it's amazing you can even look yourself in a mirror without wanting to
commit suicide.
Just save some face and stop posting.

Do your self a big favour Brandon start HLDS and then type sys_ticrate 500
in the console,  then youll fucking see how stupid you really are.

As for Lod, don't even get me started on how pathetic there.

---Original Message---

From: Brandon R. Miller
Date: 04/23/06 15:15:15
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

41? You act like a damn 12 year old.

As L.o.D. pointed out. Direct quote from valve.

URL: http://developer.valvesoftware
com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Basic_Networking

QUOTE: The server admin may override the default tickrate with the
-tickrate command line parameter, though tickrate changes done this way are
not recommended because the mod may not work as designed if its tickrate is
changed.

Get off this mailing list already and take some grammar courses.

Brandon

- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Ahha your an idiot and cannot read a simple forum post.When I said
there
 was no command with tick or tic I was referring too the commands
 tickrate and or ticrate.
 Get it through your fuking head already there is no command for SRCDS
 with any form of tic or tick in it.

 Who in the fuck raised you, you are so stupid, you need to kill your
 self right now.
 You worthless piece of crap.Yet another case of the stupid trying to
 make others think there not.

 Can I be an asshole, yes I can. Can I be dumb, yes from time to time.
 The huge difference between me and most of you, is that I can admit it
when
 I am.

 Just give up on life already, everyone who is wrong about there
 statements in this thread yet continues to argue there case needs to
 just drive off a cliff.

 I join forums for two things to get help and to give help.It would
seem
 that this forum is just like the steam and DOD forums.   People making
posts
 to make themselves look smarter and make others feel dumb and people
 who have absolutely no lives at all.

 Even though I have used many expletives to describe my disgust with
 those
of
 you who have so ignorantly exspressed them selves in this thread, I
 will
no
 longer perpetuate the stupidity that grows from it.  Good fucking
 riddance.

 I appoligise to Alfred and the adults who run and frequent these
 forums
for
 my expletive outburst's but I have simply had it with losers such as
 the ones who have posted replys in this thread.

 At 41 YOA and retired I no longer have the patience to deal with
 stupid people.



 ---Original Message---

 From: Brandon R. Miller
 Date: 04/23/06 14:22:41
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 You are correct there is no command that is tick or tic it is
tickrate


 The following can only be set in the command line. Typing them in
 console does nothing.
 -tickrate 66
 -tickrate 100

 Now quietly remove yourself from this list.

 Brandon

 - Original Message -
 From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:09 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Your a fucking
 moron.  I have tested all commands time and time again and there is
 no command with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD line
 or the server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

 SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice day
 while your at it.

 ---Original Message---

 From: Adam Sando
 Date: 04/23/06 05:48:07

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread Giles Millward

I just wanted to say thanks to Kyle for the nice comment about my plugin
for the source engine :)

As for the tickrate command line command it certainly does exist and is
only available in the command line to start source.
How do I know this ? I had to test it at differing tickrates to make
sure that the command ma_version and the cvar mani_tickrate report the
correct information.

My test server on my pc uses the following startup command: -

srcds.exe -allowdebug -tickrate 66 -console -game cstrike -port 27099
+map de_dust +maxplayers 16

I'm guessing it is deliberately not setup as a cvar so server admins
cannot adversely affect a server's performance if sharing it amongst
different clients.

Now, the sys_ticrate command DOES exist on the original hl1 server
engine, but seeing as this post is titled 'SRCDS will not run' I'm
assuming that Kyle has installed the correct Source engine powered
server and not the old hl1 engine.

Mani

www.mani-admin-plugin.com


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:28:54 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Last night, I testedsys_ticrate,sys_tickrate,tickrate,ticrate,-tickrate
-ticrate,+tickrate.+ticrate. In the server config and in the cmd line and
the only command that worked is sys_ticrate.
It works in the CMD line or in the server.cfg.

And to quote Brandon...The following can only be set in the command
line. Typing them in console
Does nothing

Well then when I type sys_ticrate 500 in my HLDS console and the ticrate
changes from 64 to 500, then WTF is that you lame dumbass kid.

All you morons want to do is argue, you havn't even bothered testing the
actual commands in both CMD line and or server.cfg.

All you losers do is use google or wiki to copy and past text that other
dumbass's wrote.

it's amazing you can even look yourself in a mirror without wanting to
commit suicide.
Just save some face and stop posting.

Do your self a big favour Brandon start HLDS and then type sys_ticrate 500
in the console,  then youll fucking see how stupid you really are.

As for Lod, don't even get me started on how pathetic there.






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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread Adam Sando
Good. Leave please.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
Sent: Monday, 24 April 2006 07:25 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Ahha your an idiot and cannot read a simple forum post.When I said
there
was no command with tick or tic I was referring too the commands
tickrate and or ticrate.
Get it through your fuking head already there is no command for SRCDS
with any form of tic or tick in it.

Who in the fuck raised you, you are so stupid, you need to kill your
self right now.
You worthless piece of crap.Yet another case of the stupid trying to
make others think there not.

Can I be an asshole, yes I can. Can I be dumb, yes from time to time.
The huge difference between me and most of you, is that I can admit it
when I am.

Just give up on life already, everyone who is wrong about there
statements in this thread yet continues to argue there case needs to
just drive off a cliff.

I join forums for two things to get help and to give help.It would
seem
that this forum is just like the steam and DOD forums.   People making
posts
to make themselves look smarter and make others feel dumb and people who
have absolutely no lives at all.

Even though I have used many expletives to describe my disgust with
those of you who have so ignorantly exspressed them selves in this
thread, I will no
longer perpetuate the stupidity that grows from it.  Good fucking
riddance.

I appoligise to Alfred and the adults who run and frequent these forums
for my expletive outburst's but I have simply had it with losers such as
the ones who have posted replys in this thread.

At 41 YOA and retired I no longer have the patience to deal with stupid
people.



---Original Message---

From: Brandon R. Miller
Date: 04/23/06 14:22:41
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

You are correct there is no command that is tick or tic it is
tickrate


The following can only be set in the command line. Typing them in
console does nothing.
-tickrate 66
-tickrate 100

Now quietly remove yourself from this list.

Brandon

- Original Message -
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Your a fucking moron.

 I have tested all commands time and time again and there is no command

 with anything tick to tic in it for SRCDS. In the CMD line or the
 server.cfg.  End of story you lame cunt.

 SRCDS only uses FPS_max.Now go eat a dick. Oh and have anice
day
 while your at it.

 ---Original Message---

 From: Adam Sando
 Date: 04/23/06 05:48:07
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 Right, so let me get this right...

 There is no tickrate cvar for SRCDS? This statement is correct
 unless you are running mani-admin (probably an extremely large
 percentage of SRCDS servers are).

 SRCDS uses the command 'fps_max' period. Uses it period for what
 exactly? So tickrate makes no difference to CPU usage or fps? Fps_max
 does matter, however so does tickrate...

 and yes it can only be utilised in the CMD line. Disagree. Have you
 actually tried setting this in server.cfg or on the console? OMG it
 actually works outside the cmdline!! Shock horror!

 there has never been any command tickrate ever. LOL... So the
 -tickrate command is something all of us SRCDS admins make up just to
 pass the time, and give us something to talk about?

 You diss whisper, however it appears to all of us, that you have no
 idea what you are actually talking about.

 If any of us were you, we would stop posting anymore, and save any
 further embarrassment.

 gg noob.

 Cheers,
 Adam.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
 Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:05 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] No no no.  There is
 no tickrate,ticrate or any other type of tick cvar for SRCDS.
 Never has been never will be, EVER.  In the CMD line or server.cfg.
 SRCDS  use the command  FPS_max   period.  And yes it can only be
 utilized
 in the CMD line.

 Unlike HLDS which the command is sys_ticrate  and can be utilized in
 either the CMD line or the server.cfg

 There has never been any command  tickrate  ever.

 What the hell are you people smoking crack.



 ---Original Message---

 From: Ian mu
 Date: 04/23/06 03:10:34
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can't work out if
 people are serious in this topic or not anymore hehe.

 It's -tickrate for srcds in the commandline not ticrate (only place it

 can be set), and sys_ticrate for hlds (which I

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread Darrel

Without sounding like a groupie, thanks for an awesome plug-in Bro...
Seriously.




I just wanted to say thanks to Kyle for the nice comment about my plugin
for the source engine :)




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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread kyle
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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I do apologize to you for making that comment.  It was rude of me and
uncalled for.
You have done a great service with your plugin for the HL2 community and on
behalf of them I thank you.
Now do another service for the community and trim down your manimod config.
Do you think you could have given us a few thousand more options to have to
figure out.

The only reason anyone uses it at all is the same reason people pay comcast
$66 bucks a month to get crappy service.   Because they can't get anything
else in there area.
Once sourcemod is out manimod will be a thing of the past.   GG Giles.



---Original Message---

From: Giles Millward
Date: 04/23/06 16:58:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

I just wanted to say thanks to Kyle for the nice comment about my plugin
for the source engine :)

As for the tickrate command line command it certainly does exist and is
only available in the command line to start source.
How do I know this ? I had to test it at differing tickrates to make
sure that the command ma_version and the cvar mani_tickrate report the
correct information.

My test server on my pc uses the following startup command: -

srcds.exe -allowdebug -tickrate 66 -console -game cstrike -port 27099
+map de_dust +maxplayers 16

I'm guessing it is deliberately not setup as a cvar so server admins
cannot adversely affect a server's performance if sharing it amongst
different clients.

Now, the sys_ticrate command DOES exist on the original hl1 server
engine, but seeing as this post is titled 'SRCDS will not run' I'm
assuming that Kyle has installed the correct Source engine powered
server and not the old hl1 engine.

Mani

www.mani-admin-plugin.com

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:28:54 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Last night, I testedsys_ticrate,sys_tickrate,tickrate,ticrate,-tickrate
-ticrate,+tickrate.+ticrate. In the server config and in the cmd line and
the only command that worked is sys_ticrate.
It works in the CMD line or in the server.cfg.

And to quote Brandon...The following can only be set in the command
line. Typing them in console
Does nothing

Well then when I type sys_ticrate 500 in my HLDS console and the ticrate
changes from 64 to 500, then WTF is that you lame dumbass kid.

All you morons want to do is argue, you havn't even bothered testing the
actual commands in both CMD line and or server.cfg.

All you losers do is use google or wiki to copy and past text that other
dumbass's wrote.

it's amazing you can even look yourself in a mirror without wanting to
commit suicide.
Just save some face and stop posting.

Do your self a big favour Brandon start HLDS and then type sys_ticrate 500
in the console,  then youll fucking see how stupid you really are.

As for Lod, don't even get me started on how pathetic there.





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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-23 Thread Roman Hatsiev
Aggressive ignorance is so funny :^) Thanks, kyle, you made my Monday!

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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-22 Thread kyle
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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
That's -ticrate if I'm correct. No k. :)

---Original Message---

From: Frazer
Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

Nice work, Whisper.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:32 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Look what you made me go
and do Frazer

http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HLDS-SRCDS

It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the camels back :p

On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.  I
 will test again in the morning.

 My command line arguments are in the app parameters in the registry
 for my srvany wrapper, but the equivalent command line, which I also
 tried directly from the command prompt is:

 srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers
 32 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret

 This has not changed since before the problem surfaced tonight.


 Frazer



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
 Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:30 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Start your
 HLDSUpdatetool from scratch into an empty folder with the -verify_all

 If its still broken you have a Windows or Hardware problem that is
 affecting SRCDS

 What is your commandline startup btw?

 Try something simple like this:

 srcds.exe -console -game cstrike

 On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Up until this evening, I have had no problem running my dedicated
  servers, wrapped as windows services, using srvany.  This evening, I
  rebooted my machine and restarted my services.  The srcds.exe
  process starts, then promptly stops.  I have re-run hldsupdate to
  update and verify content. I have removed all mods. I have tried to
  start srcds.exe in -console -debug mode from a command prompt - all
  to no avail.  The process starts, then dies.
 
  At wits end - any suggestions on where to turn with this?
 
  Frazer
 
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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-22 Thread Whisper
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Nope, its SRCDS, completely incorrect

On 4/22/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 That's -ticrate if I'm correct. No k. :)

 ---Original Message---

 From: Frazer
 Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 Nice work, Whisper.

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:32 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Look what you made me go
 and do Frazer


 http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HLDS-SRCDS

 It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the camels back
 :p

 On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.  I
  will test again in the morning.
 
  My command line arguments are in the app parameters in the registry
  for my srvany wrapper, but the equivalent command line, which I also
  tried directly from the command prompt is:
 
  srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers
  32 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret
 
  This has not changed since before the problem surfaced tonight.
 
 
  Frazer
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:30 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Start your
  HLDSUpdatetool from scratch into an empty folder with the -verify_all
 
  If its still broken you have a Windows or Hardware problem that is
  affecting SRCDS
 
  What is your commandline startup btw?
 
  Try something simple like this:
 
  srcds.exe -console -game cstrike
 
  On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Up until this evening, I have had no problem running my dedicated
   servers, wrapped as windows services, using srvany.  This evening, I
   rebooted my machine and restarted my services.  The srcds.exe
   process starts, then promptly stops.  I have re-run hldsupdate to
   update and verify content. I have removed all mods. I have tried to
   start srcds.exe in -console -debug mode from a command prompt - all
   to no avail.  The process starts, then dies.
  
   At wits end - any suggestions on where to turn with this?
  
   Frazer
  
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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-22 Thread Frazer
Omfg.  dod NOT dods.

Patched registry manually - but did not update .reg file when reinstalling
srvany service.

Thanks for your help, Whisper - a great wiki doc no matter how stupid the
instigator :)

F.

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To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nope, its SRCDS, completely
incorrect

On 4/22/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's -ticrate if
 I'm correct. No k. :)

 ---Original Message---

 From: Frazer
 Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 Nice work, Whisper.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:32 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Look what you made me
 go and do Frazer


 http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HLDS
 -SRCDS

 It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the camels
 back :p

 On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.  I
  will test again in the morning.
 
  My command line arguments are in the app parameters in the registry
  for my srvany wrapper, but the equivalent command line, which I also
  tried directly from the command prompt is:
 
  srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers
  32 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret
 
  This has not changed since before the problem surfaced tonight.
 
 
  Frazer
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:30 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Start your
  HLDSUpdatetool from scratch into an empty folder with the
  -verify_all
 
  If its still broken you have a Windows or Hardware problem that is
  affecting SRCDS
 
  What is your commandline startup btw?
 
  Try something simple like this:
 
  srcds.exe -console -game cstrike
 
  On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Up until this evening, I have had no problem running my dedicated
   servers, wrapped as windows services, using srvany.  This evening,
   I rebooted my machine and restarted my services.  The srcds.exe
   process starts, then promptly stops.  I have re-run hldsupdate to
   update and verify content. I have removed all mods. I have tried
   to start srcds.exe in -console -debug mode from a command prompt -
   all to no avail.  The process starts, then dies.
  
   At wits end - any suggestions on where to turn with this?
  
   Frazer
  
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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-22 Thread Whisper
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lol

srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers 32
 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret


That whole command line is all for SOURCE, even the tickrate part is correct
for SOURCE

On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Omfg.  dod NOT dods.

 Patched registry manually - but did not update .reg file when reinstalling
 srvany service.

 Thanks for your help, Whisper - a great wiki doc no matter how stupid the
 instigator :)

 F.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:33 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nope, its SRCDS,
 completely
 incorrect

 On 4/22/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's -ticrate if
  I'm correct. No k. :)
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: Frazer
  Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  Nice work, Whisper.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
  Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:32 AM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Look what you made me
  go and do Frazer
 
 
  http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HLDS
  -SRCDS
 
  It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the camels
  back :p
 
  On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.  I
   will test again in the morning.
  
   My command line arguments are in the app parameters in the registry
   for my srvany wrapper, but the equivalent command line, which I also
   tried directly from the command prompt is:
  
   srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers
   32 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret
  
   This has not changed since before the problem surfaced tonight.
  
  
   Frazer
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
   Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:30 PM
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
  
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Start your
   HLDSUpdatetool from scratch into an empty folder with the
   -verify_all
  
   If its still broken you have a Windows or Hardware problem that is
   affecting SRCDS
  
   What is your commandline startup btw?
  
   Try something simple like this:
  
   srcds.exe -console -game cstrike
  
   On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Up until this evening, I have had no problem running my dedicated
servers, wrapped as windows services, using srvany.  This evening,
I rebooted my machine and restarted my services.  The srcds.exe
process starts, then promptly stops.  I have re-run hldsupdate to
update and verify content. I have removed all mods. I have tried
to start srcds.exe in -console -debug mode from a command prompt -
all to no avail.  The process starts, then dies.
   
At wits end - any suggestions on where to turn with this?
   
Frazer
   
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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-22 Thread kyle
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The following is from the steam support web site.
If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.

SERVER FPS CONTROL
HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.

HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per second
are rendered.

SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per second are
rendered.

Why do you need to control this?

There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The number one
reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS the higher the load
 If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization with your current FPS
settings, you are either running too many players or you have the FPS set
too high.

HLDS Servers start with a default of 60FPS and can easily run up to 1000FPS
(sys_ticrate 1000)

SRCDS Servers start with a default of 300FPS can can also run up to 1000FPS
but will require a substantially higher performance CPU to support this.

Win32 Servers should be run on WIN2K / XP Pro platforms with HLDS on a 1
8GHz CPU and a minimum of 512MB of RAM and SRCDS Servers should be run on 2
2GHz CPUs minimum with 512MB of RAM.

You see any sys_tickrates in there dumbass.  Fucking know it all,  get a
life beyond an Internet forum.


---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 04/22/06 05:47:15
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
lol

srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers 32
 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret


That whole command line is all for SOURCE, even the tickrate part is correct
for SOURCE

On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Omfg.  dod NOT dods.

 Patched registry manually - but did not update .reg file when reinstalling
 srvany service.

 Thanks for your help, Whisper - a great wiki doc no matter how stupid the
 instigator :)

 F.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:33 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nope, its SRCDS,
 completely
 incorrect

 On 4/22/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's -ticrate if
  I'm correct. No k. :)
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: Frazer
  Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  Nice work, Whisper.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
  Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:32 AM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Look what you made me
  go and do Frazer
 
 
  http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HLDS
  -SRCDS
 
  It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the camels
  back :p
 
  On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.  I
   will test again in the morning.
  
   My command line arguments are in the app parameters in the registry
   for my srvany wrapper, but the equivalent command line, which I also
   tried directly from the command prompt is:
  
   srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers
   32 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret
  
   This has not changed since before the problem surfaced tonight.
  
  
   Frazer
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
   Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:30 PM
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
  
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Start your
   HLDSUpdatetool from scratch into an empty folder with the
   -verify_all
  
   If its still broken you have a Windows or Hardware problem that is
   affecting SRCDS
  
   What is your commandline startup btw?
  
   Try something simple like this:
  
   srcds.exe -console -game cstrike
  
   On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Up until this evening, I have had no problem running my dedicated
servers, wrapped as windows services, using srvany.  This evening,
I rebooted my machine and restarted my services.  The srcds.exe
process starts, then promptly stops.  I have re-run hldsupdate to
update and verify content. I have removed all mods. I have tried
to start srcds.exe in -console -debug mode from a command prompt -
all to no avail.  The process starts, then dies.
   
At wits end - any suggestions on where to turn with this?
   
Frazer
   
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RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-22 Thread Frazer
There you go again, Whisper... trolling for flames ;)

At the risk of incurring further wrath, I think Whisper was referring to the
command line switch for srcds.exe, which does appear to be -tickrate and, if
I understand correctly, the only place and only time you can specify this
setting for an srcds server is as a switch on the command line when you
start it.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kyle
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:35 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The following is from the
steam support web site.
If they wrote it wrong go tell them moron.

SERVER FPS CONTROL
HLDS Servers render frames independently from the Client.

HLDS Servers use the CVAR sys_ticrate to control how many frames per second
are rendered.

SRCDS Servers use the CVAR FPS_max to control how many frames per second are
rendered.

Why do you need to control this?

There are two good reasons for you to manage the server FPS. The number one
reason is loading on your Server CPU. The higher the FPS the higher the load
If you are getting more then 50% CPU utilization with your current FPS
settings, you are either running too many players or you have the FPS set
too high.

HLDS Servers start with a default of 60FPS and can easily run up to 1000FPS
(sys_ticrate 1000)

SRCDS Servers start with a default of 300FPS can can also run up to 1000FPS
but will require a substantially higher performance CPU to support this.

Win32 Servers should be run on WIN2K / XP Pro platforms with HLDS on a 1
8GHz CPU and a minimum of 512MB of RAM and SRCDS Servers should be run on 2
2GHz CPUs minimum with 512MB of RAM.

You see any sys_tickrates in there dumbass.  Fucking know it all,  get a
life beyond an Internet forum.


---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 04/22/06 05:47:15
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] lol

srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers 32
 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret


That whole command line is all for SOURCE, even the tickrate part is correct
for SOURCE

On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Omfg.  dod NOT dods.

 Patched registry manually - but did not update .reg file when
 reinstalling srvany service.

 Thanks for your help, Whisper - a great wiki doc no matter how stupid
 the instigator :)

 F.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
 Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:33 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nope, its SRCDS,
 completely incorrect

 On 4/22/06, kyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's -ticrate if
  I'm correct. No k. :)
 
  ---Original Message---
 
  From: Frazer
  Date: 04/22/06 03:07:46
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  Nice work, Whisper.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
  Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:32 AM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Look what you made
  me go and do Frazer
 
 
  http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HL
  DS
  -SRCDS
 
  It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the camels
  back :p
 
  On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.
   I will test again in the morning.
  
   My command line arguments are in the app parameters in the
   registry for my srvany wrapper, but the equivalent command line,
   which I also tried directly from the command prompt is:
  
   srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600
   +maxplayers
   32 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret
  
   This has not changed since before the problem surfaced tonight.
  
  
   Frazer
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
   Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:30 PM
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run
  
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   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Start your
   HLDSUpdatetool from scratch into an empty folder with the
   -verify_all
  
   If its still broken you have a Windows or Hardware problem that is
   affecting SRCDS
  
   What is your commandline startup btw?
  
   Try something simple like this:
  
   srcds.exe -console -game cstrike
  
   On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Up until this evening, I have had no problem running my
dedicated servers, wrapped as windows services, using srvany

Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-21 Thread Whisper
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Start your HLDSUpdatetool from scratch into an empty folder with the
-verify_all

If its still broken you have a Windows or Hardware problem that is affecting
SRCDS

What is your commandline startup btw?

Try something simple like this:

srcds.exe -console -game cstrike

On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Up until this evening, I have had no problem running my dedicated servers,
 wrapped as windows services, using srvany.  This evening, I rebooted my
 machine and restarted my services.  The srcds.exe process starts, then
 promptly stops.  I have re-run hldsupdate to update and verify content. I
 have removed all mods. I have tried to start srcds.exe in -console -debug
 mode from a command prompt - all to no avail.  The process starts, then
 dies.

 At wits end - any suggestions on where to turn with this?

 Frazer

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Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

2006-04-21 Thread Whisper
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Look what you made me go and do Frazer

http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index.php/Troubleshooting_valve_HLDS-SRCDS

It is not complete yet, but you were the straw that broke the camels back :p

On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, Whisper... Trying a complete reload with -verify_all on.  I will
 test again in the morning.

 My command line arguments are in the app parameters in the registry for my
 srvany wrapper, but the equivalent command line, which I also tried
 directly
 from the command prompt is:

 srcds.exe -console -game dod -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600 +maxplayers 32
 -port 27025 +map dod_anvil +rcon_password secret

 This has not changed since before the problem surfaced tonight.


 Frazer



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
 Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:30 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS will not run

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 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Start your HLDSUpdatetool
 from scratch into an empty folder with the -verify_all

 If its still broken you have a Windows or Hardware problem that is
 affecting
 SRCDS

 What is your commandline startup btw?

 Try something simple like this:

 srcds.exe -console -game cstrike

 On 4/22/06, Frazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Up until this evening, I have had no problem running my dedicated
  servers, wrapped as windows services, using srvany.  This evening, I
  rebooted my machine and restarted my services.  The srcds.exe process
  starts, then promptly stops.  I have re-run hldsupdate to update and
  verify content. I have removed all mods. I have tried to start
  srcds.exe in -console -debug mode from a command prompt - all to no
  avail.  The process starts, then dies.
 
  At wits end - any suggestions on where to turn with this?
 
  Frazer
 
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