RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Actually the Linux software is mostly for scanning shares. File/print sharing is probably the #1 usage of Linux in business. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Cook Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:22 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. mcafee make a virus scanner for the mac as well - isn't worth buying since Macs dont get viruses... Mcafee generally make good software - so I would check it out. On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:55:36, Dan Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:07 PM 2/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: No mods and no virus I mean this would Happen hours after a format and a fresh install of windows or linux Do you know a good virus scanner For Linux?? McAffee make an anti-virus product for Linux, however I can't say if it's good or not. Ever tried setting the runlevel to single-user and seeing if it repeats on the Linux box? Or fresh install on LAN-only to ensure there's no outside vector for infection? It sounds like a virus, but at this point I'd start wondering about hardware too. I'd make a copy of those maps onto a different partition or different device, do the isolation thing, and then diff them -- it could be something as simple as a flakey bit of RAM causing the checksum generation to go wonky. - Dan * Dan Sorenson DoD #1066 A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Vikings? There ain't no vikings here. Just us honest farmers. * * The town was burning, the villagers were dead. They didn't need * * those sheep anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it. * ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
mcafee make a virus scanner for the mac as well - isn't worth buying since Macs dont get viruses... Mcafee generally make good software - so I would check it out. On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:55:36, Dan Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:07 PM 2/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: No mods and no virus I mean this would Happen hours after a format and a fresh install of windows or linux Do you know a good virus scanner For Linux?? McAffee make an anti-virus product for Linux, however I can't say if it's good or not. Ever tried setting the runlevel to single-user and seeing if it repeats on the Linux box? Or fresh install on LAN-only to ensure there's no outside vector for infection? It sounds like a virus, but at this point I'd start wondering about hardware too. I'd make a copy of those maps onto a different partition or different device, do the isolation thing, and then diff them -- it could be something as simple as a flakey bit of RAM causing the checksum generation to go wonky. - Dan * Dan Sorenson DoD #1066 A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Vikings? There ain't no vikings here. Just us honest farmers. * * The town was burning, the villagers were dead. They didn't need * * those sheep anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it. * ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then Or Virus or something thats compromised the box On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
If nothing else is changing on the box, then it is a virus or something of that nature. Just as an off chance ... Are you running any mods? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:07 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then Or Virus or something thats compromised the box On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
i will do that but we know the is it called the checksum or md5 hash is what is changing just on the server and only the mapfiles but here is the kicker we played last night and we have ventrillo 16 people were in the server and the map changed half downloaded the map and the others had it let all 16 people in. then 5 min into the map . then two people tryed to join and it told them the map differed then we checked the md5 code and it was changed so we had to go to a differant map but i will have this done and post it for you From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:59:38 -0800 Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
we dont overclock anything no need to the 1U has enough power From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 01:26:56 -0500 This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
we do not have a virus From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100 -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then Or Virus or something thats compromised the box On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are getting some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other option is that you have a very very strange bug. My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. we do not have a virus From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100 -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then Or Virus or something thats compromised the box On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
irv carlson wrote: we do not have a virus From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100 -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then Or Virus or something thats compromised the box On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
It seems a little strange that if it were either a virus or hacker that only the map files for the CS server would be changed. I've never heard of a virus that targeted Counter-Strike installs. Seems to me that it's probably a hardware problem. What happens if you chkdsk /F the drive? --DH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:20 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are getting some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other option is that you have a very very strange bug. My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. we do not have a virus From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100 -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then Or Virus or something thats compromised the box On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I attended an medium sized LAN party, 32 people, a few weeks ago and we had this same problem until we turned off VAC for the LAN. After that we didn't have and problems with the Map Differs from server. When we did have the map problem it took about 5 to 10 retrys before the maps we the Same. Bug?? Could be. ---Original Message--- From: Dan Herrstrom Date: 02/19/06 00:18:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It seems a little strange that if it were either a virus or hacker that only the map files for the CS server would be changed. I've never heard of a virus that targeted Counter-Strike installs. Seems to me that it's probably a hardware problem. What happens if you chkdsk /F the drive? --DH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:20 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are getting some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other option is that you have a very very strange bug. My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. we do not have a virus From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100 -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then Or Virus or something thats compromised the box On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Its possible. But they (irv and Munra) were having the same problem with hlds srcds on windows and linux. It looks likely that someone is targeting them or there is some element of this that we are missing ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Welsh Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:45 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I attended an medium sized LAN party, 32 people, a few weeks ago and we had this same problem until we turned off VAC for the LAN. After that we didn't have and problems with the Map Differs from server. When we did have the map problem it took about 5 to 10 retrys before the maps we the Same. Bug?? Could be. ---Original Message--- From: Dan Herrstrom Date: 02/19/06 00:18:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It seems a little strange that if it were either a virus or hacker that only the map files for the CS server would be changed. I've never heard of a virus that targeted Counter-Strike installs. Seems to me that it's probably a hardware problem. What happens if you chkdsk /F the drive? --DH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:20 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are getting some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other option is that you have a very very strange bug. My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. we do not have a virus From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100 -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then Or Virus or something thats compromised the box On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
It will happen when the server is not even running - Original MessagIe - From: Richard Welsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I attended an medium sized LAN party, 32 people, a few weeks ago and we had this same problem until we turned off VAC for the LAN. After that we didn't have and problems with the Map Differs from server. When we did have the map problem it took about 5 to 10 retrys before the maps we the Same. Bug?? Could be. ---Original Message--- From: Dan Herrstrom Date: 02/19/06 00:18:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It seems a little strange that if it were either a virus or hacker that only the map files for the CS server would be changed. I've never heard of a virus that targeted Counter-Strike installs. Seems to me that it's probably a hardware problem. What happens if you chkdsk /F the drive? --DH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:20 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are getting some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other option is that you have a very very strange bug. My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. we do not have a virus From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100 -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then Or Virus or something thats compromised the box On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
At 05:07 PM 2/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: No mods and no virus I mean this would Happen hours after a format and a fresh install of windows or linux Do you know a good virus scanner For Linux?? McAffee make an anti-virus product for Linux, however I can't say if it's good or not. Ever tried setting the runlevel to single-user and seeing if it repeats on the Linux box? Or fresh install on LAN-only to ensure there's no outside vector for infection? It sounds like a virus, but at this point I'd start wondering about hardware too. I'd make a copy of those maps onto a different partition or different device, do the isolation thing, and then diff them -- it could be something as simple as a flakey bit of RAM causing the checksum generation to go wonky. - Dan * Dan Sorenson DoD #1066 A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Vikings? There ain't no vikings here. Just us honest farmers. * * The town was burning, the villagers were dead. They didn't need * * those sheep anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it. * ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing - Original Message - From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file from the server Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what is Happaning a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d This is the clients map This is the md5 of the map on the server ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da See what is going on. we jsut can't find what is causeing this I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one else can. - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
yes it is From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:20:29 -0600 Is the new ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM From: David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 + irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
about 4 or 5 hours From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:17:19 -0600 Does this problem occur immediately or does it take days or week? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Don;t listen to irv is very upset about this problem. We will run memtest again. Also I can't tell if the memory help We installed a control server tonight Fresh install And When one of us gets to chicago we'll take the box out and run memtest and prime95 on it. - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Is the new ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM From: David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 + irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Snice the Windows Box is inactive I am moving this to the Linux list Thanks for all your help - Original Message - From: Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Not over clocking the CPUs - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU? On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote: Irv, The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with - verify_all and save the log, then grep Downloading and post the list of downloaded files here. The question this will answer is are only the BSPs changing or is other game content also changing Scenario 1: Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being written. (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as well) Possible Causes: 1. disk problem 2. cable problem 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity Scenario 2: only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps) Possible Causes 1. malicious activity - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Out of interest, next time you get a map file differ error, check the modify date on it and see if its changed since your last clean update if that makes sense. Just might give an idea if its something is changing it or getting corrupt. It does sound like something on your machine as opposed to a valve issue though if each time a verify_all detects your file has changed in the meantime. Naturally check ftp logs, event log etc etc as well. On 2/15/06, Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. Alfred please help We are in need of help to solve a on going problem with server side map differs errors. When clients connect to any of our 1U servers they will get Map differs errors on the stock maps. This error happens on stock source css, 1.6, and Source DOD maps. We have a OZ server running for the last week that has had no issues as of this writing. Here are the server specs. Server 2 dual amd 2400+ mps Tyan mb 2 gig ecc pc 2100 2 sata 1 rmp Raptors 36Gb raid 0 win 2000 Server 1 dual amd 2400+ mps Tyan mb 2 gig ecc pc 2100 2 IDE 7200 rmp 40 gig Fedora core 4 At one time both servers were exactly the same,(same as Server 1 but with windows installed) We thought it might be a hard drive issue so we upgraded Server 2 with new Raptor 36 gig hard drives/raid 0 and installed Fedora on server 1 hoping to elimante it from being a Windows OS problem. After the upgrade to this 1U we ran Memtest for 14 hours and a 2nd session of 6 hours with no errors, we also ran Prime95 over night with no errors. Within 5 hours of the fresh server 2000 install/hard drives on server 2 the stock maps started to differ, the other 1U(server 1) ran for almost 2 weeks on stock Source CSS maps before having this problem and it gets worse every day. Again this same problem happens on both 1U boxs to stock .bsp files and a few .wav files on the Linux box, all verified by the hlds tool/verify all command The Source CSS server`s map differs errors is 4 to 1 to the 1.6 server We have also noticed that the .bsp that differ are haveing the md5 hash/check sum changed. However we can not find what is changing them. The only way to fix them is to run the hldsupdatetool with -verify_all and have it redownload the stock maps and then they work. We need to run the hlds tool about every 4 hours or less. This is my plea Help us I will run any program you suggest or give you complete access to one or both boxs if this problem interests you at all. Thanks From: irv carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files, FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website so please do not even bring it up. We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just added. All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the hldsupdatetool and a NEW STOCK Source server was setup and running. There was no FTP program installed or used for these files. We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours when we started getting Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server Out of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with update -game Counter-Strike Source -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. Alfred please help We are in need of help to solve a on going problem with server side map differs errors. When clients connect to any of our 1U servers they will get Map differs errors on the stock maps. This error happens on stock source css, 1.6, and Source DOD maps. We have a OZ server running for the last week that has had no issues as of this writing. Here are the server specs. Server 2 dual amd 2400+ mps Tyan mb 2 gig ecc pc 2100 2 sata 1 rmp Raptors 36Gb raid 0 win 2000 Server 1 dual amd 2400+ mps Tyan mb 2 gig ecc pc 2100 2 IDE 7200 rmp 40 gig Fedora core 4 At one time both servers were exactly the same,(same as Server 1 but with windows installed) We thought it might be a hard drive issue so we upgraded Server 2 with new Raptor 36 gig hard drives/raid 0 and installed Fedora on server 1 hoping to elimante it from being a Windows OS problem. After the upgrade to this 1U we ran Memtest for 14 hours and a 2nd session of 6 hours with no errors, we also ran Prime95 over night with no errors. Within 5 hours of the fresh server 2000 install/hard drives on server 2 the stock maps started to differ, the other 1U(server 1) ran for almost 2 weeks on stock Source CSS maps before having this problem and it gets worse every day. Again this same problem happens on both 1U boxs to stock .bsp files and a few .wav files on the Linux box, all verified by the hlds tool/verify all command The Source CSS server`s map differs errors is 4 to 1 to the 1.6 server We have also noticed that the .bsp that differ are haveing the md5 hash/check sum changed. However we can not find what is changing them. The only way to fix them is to run the hldsupdatetool with -verify_all and have it redownload the stock maps and then they work. We need to run the hlds tool about every 4 hours or less. This is my plea Help us I will run any program you suggest or give you complete access to one or both boxs if this problem interests you at all. Thanks From: irv carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files, FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website so please do not even bring it up. We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just added. All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the hldsupdatetool and a NEW STOCK Source server was setup and running. There was no FTP program installed or used for these files. We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours when we started getting Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server Out of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with update -game Counter-Strike Source -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before. On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and some times can go a week or so with out happening. At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of de_dust we
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Then it is a hardware or routing issue. Since you have eliminated the Windows install, and we all know a new source/hl1 install works just fine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Why Does every one on this list an ass and yes it is a Problem with Valve. When it only Chooses to do this With BSPs and it chosses only bsps. I ran an Bf2 server Never had a problem (any other Games servers). Then if it is a Server Issues it is not OS (happens on both linux and Windows) based problem and if it is a hardware issuse that Steam doesnt Like don't you think it would be worth valves time just to take some interst into it? I mean Poeple how right Software usally care about that. And if you Search the net we are not the only ones with is problem I Just find it odd after running a program to monitor files changes it only happens to BSP files. And it happens to stock files. Please stop being an ass if you have nothing usefull to add to help the problem your input it not needed - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
We don't know that Source Files Differs with in hours and h1 content withh differ however it take a couple of days. If it is a Hardware Routing issue is there a Way to Find were the PRoblem is. I mean we went from ide drives and Changed them to sata drives with satat card. LIke I siad befor memtest and Prime95 ran 8+ hours with no errors or crashes. Any software we can run to Find why it is changing or how. We have software telling us it is Changing but is can never tells us what is changing. - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Then it is a hardware or routing issue. Since you have eliminated the Windows install, and we all know a new source/hl1 install works just fine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u. That is not the issue And no virus. - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Install and update a new install of srcds. Now write-protect all the .bsp files. (maybe do this after the next patch ...) Md5sum ALL the .bsp files. Now that you have a baseline, run the server till someone get the error. (ok IF someone gets the error) If they never get the error, then you know it's some sort of software problem. If they do, then you have discovered a hardware problem. I am sort of doubful of a problem with the hldsupdatetool, as I use it on both platforms (actually I use it on FreeBSD as well) and I don't have this problem except with bad hardware. (Just had this sort of problem with a bad RAID battery) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:48 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. We don't know that Source Files Differs with in hours and h1 content withh differ however it take a couple of days. If it is a Hardware Routing issue is there a Way to Find were the PRoblem is. I mean we went from ide drives and Changed them to sata drives with satat card. LIke I siad befor memtest and Prime95 ran 8+ hours with no errors or crashes. Any software we can run to Find why it is changing or how. We have software telling us it is Changing but is can never tells us what is changing. - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Then it is a hardware or routing issue. Since you have eliminated the Windows install, and we all know a new source/hl1 install works just fine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the questions to rule things out. Acting rude will not help anyone.. Good luck with your problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u. That is not the issue And no virus. - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
thanks for the input I have tired that alread. write-proctecting stills Gives us map differs after a fresh install. Md5sum is what is Changing on the bsp files. So you are saying this a hardware issue? Is there software I can use to track down what piece of hardware is cuasing this issue? If Alferd is still reading This I am Correct and assuming that the server checks the check sum of the clients maps and compars it to the servers Map check sum to detemine if the map is the Same. Would this also apply to the HLDSupdatetool??? Sorry For the ass comment been working on this problem a long time Pisses me off I cant figure it out. After spending thouands of dollars. - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Install and update a new install of srcds. Now write-protect all the .bsp files. (maybe do this after the next patch ...) Md5sum ALL the .bsp files. Now that you have a baseline, run the server till someone get the error. (ok IF someone gets the error) If they never get the error, then you know it's some sort of software problem. If they do, then you have discovered a hardware problem. I am sort of doubful of a problem with the hldsupdatetool, as I use it on both platforms (actually I use it on FreeBSD as well) and I don't have this problem except with bad hardware. (Just had this sort of problem with a bad RAID battery) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:48 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. We don't know that Source Files Differs with in hours and h1 content withh differ however it take a couple of days. If it is a Hardware Routing issue is there a Way to Find were the PRoblem is. I mean we went from ide drives and Changed them to sata drives with satat card. LIke I siad befor memtest and Prime95 ran 8+ hours with no errors or crashes. Any software we can run to Find why it is changing or how. We have software telling us it is Changing but is can never tells us what is changing. - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Then it is a hardware or routing issue. Since you have eliminated the Windows install, and we all know a new source/hl1 install works just fine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:44 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
I am not Trying to be rude This problem as cost us Lots of money and time toubleshooting. I am not blamning valve (It is most likley an hardware issue) I dont think you understand how hard it is to figure this problem out. I mean if you search the net we are not the only ones with is problem. All teh stuff your telling me I already done and/or look into. I am not trying to be rude. Firwall is running and i am saying after being hacked we took steps to try and prevent it again. one thing I have notice on the linux box. (yes I know this is a windows list) A dods server has beenrunnin a week with no problems. The maps are still working. But the css server is still getting the Errors. This what makes this problems so hard to figure out it is RANDOM. Aslo on the windows box We ran an OZ deathmatch server and It never had a Problem. - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the questions to rule things out. Acting rude will not help anyone.. Good luck with your problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u. That is not the issue And no virus. - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Not been following the thread but do you run with auto update enabled? If so try disabling it and running manual updates that you verify that's what we do and I cant say we've seen this problem ever. Steve / K This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
the only thing that has not been change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and the duel 2400MP's and every time we do a fresh install of server 2000 and like munra said we have the same problem with the linux box and we did that to rule out the OS being the problem From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:14:18 +0100 If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the questions to rule things out. Acting rude will not help anyone.. Good luck with your problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u. That is not the issue And no virus. - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
this might sound dumb but how do you do that the stock maps are not in the maps folder in source maybe munra has i dont know From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:15:05 -0800 Perhaps I missed this, but are the files actually bad? Have you compared de_quebec on the server with de_quebec from a client to see whether it is Valve's test that is throwing a false error (for some unknown reason - maybe hardware) or that the files have actually become corrupted? On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:59 PM, irv carlson wrote: the only thing that has not been change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and the duel 2400MP's and every time we do a fresh install of server 2000 and like munra said we have the same problem with the linux box and we did that to rule out the OS being the problem From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:14:18 +0100 If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the questions to rule things out. Acting rude will not help anyone.. Good luck with your problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u. That is not the issue And no virus. - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
No the Files are not Bad. I can take a Changed File say de_dust (yes it happens on stock maps) And make a listen server on my PC and play bots no problem. What I am assuming is happen is the md5 hash(I hope I am calling it the right thing or it is also know as the check sum) number is changing (I know this ia happening) And I am assuming the the client checks the servers map to see if the have the same md5 hash number and if the don't then the files are differnet. Aslo Yes I do run auto update on the linux box but I have both a linux and windows box that are haveing these issues. When i do a man update with -Verify_all then it does download new maps but they change with in hours. Can anyone tell me how the Server checks if the Files are the same??? They just check the md5 hash? - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Perhaps I missed this, but are the files actually bad? Have you compared de_quebec on the server with de_quebec from a client to see whether it is Valve's test that is throwing a false error (for some unknown reason - maybe hardware) or that the files have actually become corrupted? On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:59 PM, irv carlson wrote: the only thing that has not been change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and the duel 2400MP's and every time we do a fresh install of server 2000 and like munra said we have the same problem with the linux box and we did that to rule out the OS being the problem From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:14:18 +0100 If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the questions to rule things out. Acting rude will not help anyone.. Good luck with your problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u. That is not the issue And no virus. - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact It's running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of time makes that doubtful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Do the servers ever work? Or is this a progressive problem. And if you move the files to your install and do listen server, they are using the same file. Valve does some kind of file checking, but I don't believe it's a hash, as for CAL CS1.6 the servers use specially updated maps. They are server side only though. When I say MD5sum, I am saying go search on Google and download a tool called md5sum.exe (your linux box will have the command already). Get the md5sum of a .bsp like de_dust.bsp and then post it here We'll compare it to see if the file is bad, if the file is bad then you are likely either having a storage system problem, a memory problem, OR a router is causing you to download the files corrupted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:51 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. No the Files are not Bad. I can take a Changed File say de_dust (yes it happens on stock maps) And make a listen server on my PC and play bots no problem. What I am assuming is happen is the md5 hash(I hope I am calling it the right thing or it is also know as the check sum) number is changing (I know this ia happening) And I am assuming the the client checks the servers map to see if the have the same md5 hash number and if the don't then the files are differnet. Aslo Yes I do run auto update on the linux box but I have both a linux and windows box that are haveing these issues. When i do a man update with -Verify_all then it does download new maps but they change with in hours. Can anyone tell me how the Server checks if the Files are the same??? They just check the md5 hash? - Original Message - From: Robert Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Perhaps I missed this, but are the files actually bad? Have you compared de_quebec on the server with de_quebec from a client to see whether it is Valve's test that is throwing a false error (for some unknown reason - maybe hardware) or that the files have actually become corrupted? On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:59 PM, irv carlson wrote: the only thing that has not been change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and the duel 2400MP's and every time we do a fresh install of server 2000 and like munra said we have the same problem with the linux box and we did that to rule out the OS being the problem From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:14:18 +0100 If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the questions to rule things out. Acting rude will not help anyone.. Good luck with your problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u. That is not the issue And no virus. - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
I never Tought About the PSU We have replaced it once becuase it went bad. The got the servers from http://www.appro.com/ I can imagne they would use a psu that was not strong enough? Also After futher Checking the memory We found that the memory on tyans site is not recomended. I shocks me that aprro would but a weak psu and a non-reocomended memory However the memory site does recomend to for that MoBo. Umm Thanks guys We sent the windows Box (The video went out on the MoBo) to aprro today I'll Make sure we call them he see about adding a new PSU How high of a psu would you say 400w 500w If we get this problem fixed I'll be sure to send all and any findings - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact It's running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of time makes that doubtful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If we are talking about power supplies then http://www.pcpowercooling.com is hard to pass by On 2/16/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never Tought About the PSU We have replaced it once becuase it went bad. The got the servers from http://www.appro.com/ I can imagne they would use a psu that was not strong enough? Also After futher Checking the memory We found that the memory on tyans site is not recomended. I shocks me that aprro would but a weak psu and a non-reocomended memory However the memory site does recomend to for that MoBo. Umm Thanks guys We sent the windows Box (The video went out on the MoBo) to aprro today I'll Make sure we call them he see about adding a new PSU How high of a psu would you say 400w 500w If we get this problem fixed I'll be sure to send all and any findings - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact It's running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of time makes that doubtful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
To be honest, I seriously doubt Appro put any hardware in that they hadn't seriously tested. They are a pretty serious cluster vendor. I used them prior to switching to blades. I seriously feel as though there is something here we are not hearing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:20 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If we are talking about power supplies then http://www.pcpowercooling.com is hard to pass by On 2/16/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never Tought About the PSU We have replaced it once becuase it went bad. The got the servers from http://www.appro.com/ I can imagne they would use a psu that was not strong enough? Also After futher Checking the memory We found that the memory on tyans site is not recomended. I shocks me that aprro would but a weak psu and a non-reocomended memory However the memory site does recomend to for that MoBo. Umm Thanks guys We sent the windows Box (The video went out on the MoBo) to aprro today I'll Make sure we call them he see about adding a new PSU How high of a psu would you say 400w 500w If we get this problem fixed I'll be sure to send all and any findings - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact It's running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of time makes that doubtful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM From: David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 + irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com
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Is the new ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM From: David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 + irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
we did change the mem and still the same result what do you think you are not hearing? just ask From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:53:39 -0600 To be honest, I seriously doubt Appro put any hardware in that they hadn't seriously tested. They are a pretty serious cluster vendor. I used them prior to switching to blades. I seriously feel as though there is something here we are not hearing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:20 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If we are talking about power supplies then http://www.pcpowercooling.com is hard to pass by On 2/16/06, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never Tought About the PSU We have replaced it once becuase it went bad. The got the servers from http://www.appro.com/ I can imagne they would use a psu that was not strong enough? Also After futher Checking the memory We found that the memory on tyans site is not recomended. I shocks me that aprro would but a weak psu and a non-reocomended memory However the memory site does recomend to for that MoBo. Umm Thanks guys We sent the windows Box (The video went out on the MoBo) to aprro today I'll Make sure we call them he see about adding a new PSU How high of a psu would you say 400w 500w If we get this problem fixed I'll be sure to send all and any findings - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact It's running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of time makes that doubtful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we
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Don;t listen to irv is very upset about this problem. We will run memtest again. Also I can't tell if the memory help We installed a control server tonight Fresh install And When one of us gets to chicago we'll take the box out and run memtest and prime95 on it. - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Is the new ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM From: David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 + irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra
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Does this problem occur immediately or does it take days or week? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Don;t listen to irv is very upset about this problem. We will run memtest again. Also I can't tell if the memory help We installed a control server tonight Fresh install And When one of us gets to chicago we'll take the box out and run memtest and prime95 on it. - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Is the new ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM From: David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 + irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100 Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell
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it take hours - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Does this problem occur immediately or does it take days or week? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Don;t listen to irv is very upset about this problem. We will run memtest again. Also I can't tell if the memory help We installed a control server tonight Fresh install And When one of us gets to chicago we'll take the box out and run memtest and prime95 on it. - Original Message - From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Is the new ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM From: David Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 + irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be irv carlson wrote: the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading the server From: Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600 Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server? I hope you have it fully patched before you bring it online. Quite a few of the Win2k security issues can hit you in under 6min. I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins. But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of hardware problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. yes on the firewall yes on the anti-virus From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100 Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these days? And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get hacked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also know there is no virus! From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100 Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just like to fix this issue From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map
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At 05:26 PM 2/15/2006 -0500, you wrote: thanks for the input I have tired that alread. write-proctecting stills Gives us map differs after a fresh install. You need to start isolating things to 1 or 2 known areas and then expand, a process of integration rather than elimination. Install source and then move the server to a private lan. Put a game box on that lan. Play in LAN mode a while, see if you get the error. If so, it's hardware or a rogue program. If not, let's go internet. Same thing but now we're hitting Valve content servers. I'd use a cheap NAT router for this, and still play in LAN mode. Eventually you're going to find where it breaks. At that point you've eliminated everything but the last change you made. Good luck. It's a long process, but it works. - Dan * Dan Sorenson DoD #1066 A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Vikings? There ain't no vikings here. Just us honest farmers. * * The town was burning, the villagers were dead. They didn't need * * those sheep anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it. * ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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From: irv carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:59:29 + The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files, FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website so please do not even bring it up. We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just added. All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the hldsupdatetool and a NEW STOCK Source server was setup and running. There was no FTP program installed or used for these files. We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours when we started getting Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server Out of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with update -game Counter-Strike Source -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before. On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and some times can go a week or so with out happening. At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of de_dust we deleted a members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and still had a differ problem. I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them. Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000 1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE 1 has Dual 1RPM SATA I am hoping someone you has had this same problem will be able to provide a definitive answer for this so I am offering a finders fee of $50.00 dollars sent via PayPal or Western Union to the first person who supplys me with a solution on how to fix this very annoying problem. I will consider it money well spent! I have gone thru a good number of Search topics to know we are not the only server with this problem and as I am not a subscriber to the Linux list I do not know if they also have map differs issue`s. If they do not suffer from these same problems a change of OS may have to be considered. we know it is not client side it is the server changing the files every few hours i have $6000 in these two boxes please help i thought i would ask the brains of the operation like i said please help Ok we thought it was a ram issue not the case we still have the problem this is the specs of the APPRO 1U Dual AMD Athlon MP IDE Server Tyan S2469NG Thunder K7 IDE motherboard 350W PFC Power Supply 8MB Video and Dual NIC (1-10/100 1-Gigabit) onboard 64bit/66MHz PCI Riser Included Dual (2x) AMD Athlon 2400+ MP 2GB (4x512MB) PC2100 Registered ECC DDR RAM 2x Internal Seagate EIDE, 40GB, 7200RPM Running Server 2000 all updates are up to date this has been an ongoing problem from day one the stock maps for DoD,source,CStrike 1.6 the only server that the maps dont differ is OZ our last resort is to change the mother board and cpu's that is all that is left to change five of us are trying to fix this problem and we have been at all of the links you sent me and tryed everything they said and same result ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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What is the server IP address? - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files, FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website so please do not even bring it up. We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just added. All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the hldsupdatetool and a NEW STOCK Source server was setup and running. There was no FTP program installed or used for these files. We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours when we started getting Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server Out of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with update -game Counter-Strike Source -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before. On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and some times can go a week or so with out happening. At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of de_dust we deleted a members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and still had a differ problem. I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them. Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000 1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE 1 has Dual 1RPM SATA I am hoping someone you has had this same problem will be able to provide a definitive answer for this so I am offering a finders fee of $50.00 dollars sent via PayPal or Western Union to the first person who supplys me with a solution on how to fix this very annoying problem. I will consider it money well spent! I have gone thru a good number of Search topics to know we are not the only server with this problem and as I am not a subscriber to the Linux list I do not know if they also have map differs issue`s. If they do not suffer from these same problems a change of OS may have to be considered. we know it is not client side it is the server changing the files every few hours i have $6000 in these two boxes please help i thought i would ask the brains of the operation like i said please help Ok we thought it was a ram issue not the case we still have the problem this is the specs of the APPRO 1U Dual AMD Athlon MP IDE Server Tyan S2469NG Thunder K7 IDE motherboard 350W PFC Power Supply 8MB Video and Dual NIC (1-10/100 1-Gigabit) onboard 64bit/66MHz PCI Riser Included Dual (2x) AMD Athlon 2400+ MP 2GB (4x512MB) PC2100 Registered ECC DDR RAM 2x Internal Seagate EIDE, 40GB, 7200RPM Running Server 2000 all updates are up to date this has been an ongoing problem from day one the stock maps for DoD,source,CStrike 1.6 the only server that the maps don’t differ is OZ our last resort is to change the mother board and cpu's that is all that is left to change five of us are trying to fix this problem and we have been at all of the links you sent me and tryed everything they said and same result ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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205.234.249.66 for source From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:25:59 -0800 What is the server IP address? - Original Message - From: irv carlson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files, FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website so please do not even bring it up. We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just added. All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the hldsupdatetool and a NEW STOCK Source server was setup and running. There was no FTP program installed or used for these files. We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours when we started getting Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server Out of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with update -game Counter-Strike Source -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before. On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and some times can go a week or so with out happening. At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of de_dust we deleted a members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and still had a differ problem. I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them. Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000 1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE 1 has Dual 1RPM SATA I am hoping someone you has had this same problem will be able to provide a definitive answer for this so I am offering a finders fee of $50.00 dollars sent via PayPal or Western Union to the first person who supplys me with a solution on how to fix this very annoying problem. I will consider it money well spent! I have gone thru a good number of Search topics to know we are not the only server with this problem and as I am not a subscriber to the Linux list I do not know if they also have map differs issue`s. If they do not suffer from these same problems a change of OS may have to be considered. we know it is not client side it is the server changing the files every few hours i have $6000 in these two boxes please help i thought i would ask the brains of the operation like i said please help Ok we thought it was a ram issue not the case we still have the problem this is the specs of the APPRO 1U Dual AMD Athlon MP IDE Server Tyan S2469NG Thunder K7 IDE motherboard 350W PFC Power Supply 8MB Video and Dual NIC (1-10/100 1-Gigabit) onboard 64bit/66MHz PCI Riser Included Dual (2x) AMD Athlon 2400+ MP 2GB (4x512MB) PC2100 Registered ECC DDR RAM 2x Internal Seagate EIDE, 40GB, 7200RPM Running Server 2000 all updates are up to date this has been an ongoing problem from day one the stock maps for DoD,source,CStrike 1.6 the only server that the maps dont differ is OZ our last resort is to change the mother board and cpu's that is all that is left to change five of us are trying to fix this problem and we have been at all of the links you sent me and tryed everything they said and same result ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. Alfred please help We are in need of help to solve a on going problem with server side map differs errors. When clients connect to any of our 1U servers they will get Map differs errors on the stock maps. This error happens on stock source css, 1.6, and Source DOD maps. We have a OZ server running for the last week that has had no issues as of this writing. Here are the server specs. Server 2 dual amd 2400+ mps Tyan mb 2 gig ecc pc 2100 2 sata 1 rmp Raptors 36Gb raid 0 win 2000 Server 1 dual amd 2400+ mps Tyan mb 2 gig ecc pc 2100 2 IDE 7200 rmp 40 gig Fedora core 4 At one time both servers were exactly the same,(same as Server 1 but with windows installed) We thought it might be a hard drive issue so we upgraded Server 2 with new Raptor 36 gig hard drives/raid 0 and installed Fedora on server 1 hoping to elimante it from being a Windows OS problem. After the upgrade to this 1U we ran Memtest for 14 hours and a 2nd session of 6 hours with no errors, we also ran Prime95 over night with no errors. Within 5 hours of the fresh server 2000 install/hard drives on server 2 the stock maps started to differ, the other 1U(server 1) ran for almost 2 weeks on stock Source CSS maps before having this problem and it gets worse every day. Again this same problem happens on both 1U boxs to stock .bsp files and a few .wav files on the Linux box, all verified by the hlds tool/verify all command The Source CSS server`s map differs errors is 4 to 1 to the 1.6 server We have also noticed that the .bsp that differ are haveing the md5 hash/check sum changed. However we can not find what is changing them. The only way to fix them is to run the hldsupdatetool with -verify_all and have it redownload the stock maps and then they work. We need to run the hlds tool about every 4 hours or less. This is my plea Help us I will run any program you suggest or give you complete access to one or both boxs if this problem interests you at all. Thanks From: irv carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files, FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website so please do not even bring it up. We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just added. All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the hldsupdatetool and a NEW STOCK Source server was setup and running. There was no FTP program installed or used for these files. We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours when we started getting Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server Out of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with update -game Counter-Strike Source -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before. On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and some times can go a week or so with out happening. At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of de_dust we deleted a members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and still had a differ problem. I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them. Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000 1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE 1 has Dual 1RPM SATA I am hoping someone you has had this same problem will be able to provide a definitive answer for this so I am offering a finders fee of $50.00 dollars sent via PayPal or Western Union to the first person who supplys me with a solution on how to fix this very annoying problem. I will consider it money well spent! I have gone thru a good number of Search topics to know we are not the only server with this problem and as I am not a subscriber to the Linux list I do not know if they also have map differs issue`s. If they do not suffer from these same
RE: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR.
Just to clear something up for you :) The server is free and people sell servers for their own profit, not Valves. Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who currupt them. I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems? -Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. I am helping irv with this problem. I have to say He left out alot of information. I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off. We can sell server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all. I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said to run prime95. Which we have with no errors. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info. On a side not Alferd has not replyed for some reason. Alfred please help We are in need of help to solve a on going problem with server side map differs errors. When clients connect to any of our 1U servers they will get Map differs errors on the stock maps. This error happens on stock source css, 1.6, and Source DOD maps. We have a OZ server running for the last week that has had no issues as of this writing. Here are the server specs. Server 2 dual amd 2400+ mps Tyan mb 2 gig ecc pc 2100 2 sata 1 rmp Raptors 36Gb raid 0 win 2000 Server 1 dual amd 2400+ mps Tyan mb 2 gig ecc pc 2100 2 IDE 7200 rmp 40 gig Fedora core 4 At one time both servers were exactly the same,(same as Server 1 but with windows installed) We thought it might be a hard drive issue so we upgraded Server 2 with new Raptor 36 gig hard drives/raid 0 and installed Fedora on server 1 hoping to elimante it from being a Windows OS problem. After the upgrade to this 1U we ran Memtest for 14 hours and a 2nd session of 6 hours with no errors, we also ran Prime95 over night with no errors. Within 5 hours of the fresh server 2000 install/hard drives on server 2 the stock maps started to differ, the other 1U(server 1) ran for almost 2 weeks on stock Source CSS maps before having this problem and it gets worse every day. Again this same problem happens on both 1U boxs to stock .bsp files and a few .wav files on the Linux box, all verified by the hlds tool/verify all command The Source CSS server`s map differs errors is 4 to 1 to the 1.6 server We have also noticed that the .bsp that differ are haveing the md5 hash/check sum changed. However we can not find what is changing them. The only way to fix them is to run the hldsupdatetool with -verify_all and have it redownload the stock maps and then they work. We need to run the hlds tool about every 4 hours or less. This is my plea Help us I will run any program you suggest or give you complete access to one or both boxs if this problem interests you at all. Thanks From: irv carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: [hlds] The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. The Famous Your Map de_dust differs from the server ERROR. It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in no recognizable pattern. We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files, FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website so please do not even bring it up. We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just added. All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the hldsupdatetool and a NEW STOCK Source server was setup and running. There was no FTP program installed or used for these files. We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours when we started getting Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server Out of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with update -game Counter-Strike Source -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before. On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and some times can go a week or so with out happening. At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of de_dust we deleted a members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and still had a differ problem. I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them. Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000 1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE 1 has
