Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosaic of Non-flat surface

2013-11-25 Thread Terry Duell

Hello Michael,

On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:19:50 +1100, Michael Jackson chile...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Hi Terry,

Sorry I dropped off for a bit.  Got sick.  In any case, I think I'm going
to take more pictures before posting them to Dropbox.  My initial feeling
is that, even though there is overlap, they are taken on too wide of a
lens.  I think that I need to shoot A LOT more pictures of smaller areas
with even more overlap.


Not knowing much detail of your project, that might be OK.
I have seen Enblend get a bit upset with a lot of overlap, but I'm not  
sure just how much is too much.
I suspect that you will have to experiment a bit with this project, and  
not just to come to grips with Hugin.

Hope you are OK soon.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosaic of Non-flat surface

2013-11-25 Thread Carl von Einem

Hi Michael,

maybe these links are interesting for you:

The panotools wiki is always a good starting point...
http://wiki.panotools.org/Stitching_a_photo-mosaic

https://dinosaurpalaeo.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/using-hugin-part-4-mosaic-images/

http://jamie3d.com/stitching-murals-in-hugin-and-removing-obstructions

Carl

Michael Jackson schrieb am 26.11.13 05:23:


I think you are correct.  I am going to try a simple flat surface so
that I can get accustomed to the program.  Then I'll try the actual
project as I posted here.

You are also right that I overestimated the project.  I had NO idea that
it would be so difficult.  However, by the time I actually complete this
project I should definitely have a good understand of Hugin and whatever
other software and/or shooting techniques I need to use.  I'll let you
guys know how it goes as I progress.



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosaic of Non-flat surface

2013-11-24 Thread dgjohnston
A judicious use of masking might be something to check into. Use the overlaps 
to align all the images then mask out most of the overlap at left and right of 
each image so only the central, least distorted, part of each image ends up in 
the final panoramic. Might require more images with heavy overlapping. 

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One more thing,

I said that the project couldn't get any tougher for my first Hugin project...I 
was wrong.

The second wall that I have to shoot has mirrors on it!!

We can worry about that little problem after we find a solution to the parallax 
issue and just stitching the thing together!  :-)


Michael

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosaic of Non-flat surface

2013-11-24 Thread Terry Duell

Hello Michael,

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 21:26:24 +1100, Michael Jackson chile...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Hi Terry!

Thanks for responding.

I have seen both of those tutorials.  I have to admit that the one with  
the building is a bit daunting.  I'm brand new to Hugin and I'm using  
the 2013 version.  So I am having trouble following along.  For example,  
I can't even find Mosaic mode.


Mosaic mode is really method of shooting, and then the optimising using  
the translation parameters.


And the more I read, the more I think I'm not setting up control points  
properly.  I need a tutorial on how to use the control point editor.   
I've just been guessing.  The program is HUGE.


In any case, the biggest difference between those examples and what I  
need to do is distance from camera to subject.  I only have about 4 feet  
between me and the shelves that I am shooting. So the parallax is  
enormous.


OK, the short distance may cause problems.

I will send samples of what I am trying to stitch.  If you need me to  
take more shot, closer together, and with more overlap, no problem.  I'm  
up for trying anything!




Let's see what you are working with first.

I will upload the files to Dropbox and send you an invite.  What email  
address should I use for Dropbox?


Just send the Dropbox link to my personal email. If you are comfortable  
for that link to be public, then post it here as others on the list may  
wish to contribute as well.



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosaic of Non-flat surface

2013-11-23 Thread Terry Duell

Hello Michael,

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 07:01:47 +1100, Michael Jackson chile...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Hello,

My name is Michael.  I'm a photographer using (or should I say, trying  
to use) Hugin software.  I'm using the 2013 version of Hugin and I have  
no idea where Mosaic mode is. I just keep reading that it might exist!  
 :-)


In any case, I'm trying to figure out how to use Hugin to create a  
mosaic that is NOT flat.




[snip]



If so, where do I start?



Have you had a look at the mosaic mode tutorial at  
http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/Mosaic-mode/en.shtml ?


I haven't tried stitching images from a non flat surface in mosaic mode,  
so I'm guessing a bit.
I think the trick is to select control points that would represent a flat  
surface, if that's possible.


I have sample images, that I'm trying to stitch, that I can show you if   
that would help.


Can you provide a few (say 3 or 4) for me to download and work with...on  
Dropbox or similar?



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosaic of Non-flat surface

2013-11-23 Thread Terry Duell

Just a little addition...

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 09:32:15 +1100, Terry Duell tdu...@iinet.net.au  
wrote:





Have you had a look at the mosaic mode tutorial at  
http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/Mosaic-mode/en.shtml ?




At the end of this tutorial is a link (  
http://panospace.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/linear-panoramas-mosaic-tutorial/)  
to another on the subject by Yuval Levy, which specifically addresses the  
'non flat' surface issue.


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