Re: [IAEP] Government FAQ
First cut is at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Government_FAQ. I put a link on the Wiki home page. More questions and answer needed. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:32 PM, sankarshan wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > Satish Jha just now asked me for help in answering Indian government > > questions about the effectiveness of OLPC programs. I sent him to the > > Wiki pages on Academic Papers and Educational Bibliography, and asked > > him to send me the questions governments ask him. I have a number of > > old communications about such matters from Nicholas, Walter, and > > others, and some of the appropriate answers, so I am going to start a > > Wiki page in a minute to collect the questions and answers. Eventially > > I intend to turn this into a White Paper that we can give to > > governments right from the beginning. > > > > Anybody is welcome to submit questions that government officials have > > asked, and whatever information satisfied their needs. > > Thanks for doing this. I am sure that once we have a wiki page, we > could cast the net wider in terms of landing up with practical > responses to the set of questions. > > -- > http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published > http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science > http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Google sponsor of All for Good portal, matches volunteers with projects
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Any thoughts on local (ie in a school opportuntoes) bs sugar labs as a > global cyber entity? Wow, massive topic. We should make this one of the marketing meetings. Discussions like this will lead us to a Sugar Labs volunteer recruitment strategy. I'll think more about this tomorrow and jump back in. > >>> I want to list volunteer opportunities to help at the Gardner elementary >>> and >>> Lilla Fredrick Middle School. Both these schools will be working with >>> Sugar >>> this summer and there are opportunities to work directly with the kids >>> and >>> Sugar as well as providing technical, writing, marketing and fundraising >>> support. >>> >>> Let me know when you figure out how I should do this and how we should >>> tie >>> all the various local projects into the overall Sugar Labs umbrella. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Caroline >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mike Lee wrote: I'm on it. It just so happens I am working directly with this Google team here in D.C. as part of my day job. Also, one of our Learning Club members is an engineer on the project. It was a major deal that AllforGood.org powers the administartion's Serve.gov site. More announcements coming next week. Small world... Mike On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > > > http://www.allforgood.org/search#q=Education&num=10&start=1&vol_loc=11567&timeperiod=everything&cache=1 > > A good place for Local Labs in the USA to list? > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Caroline Meeks >>> Solution Grove >>> carol...@solutiongrove.com >>> >>> 617-500-3488 - Office >>> 505-213-3268 - Fax >>> > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1
Oh oh! :) That sounds really cool, Sean. And Kevin, glad that you got it working! --Sebastian Sean DALY wrote: > A couple of weeks back I bit the bullet and over a couple of evenings > filled out a table for my half a dozen XOs with these fields: > > Case head color > Case body color > XO name > XO serial number > Developer key > Security disabled > Build number > OLPC-OS version > Sugar version > Firmware version > Comment > > I then updated the firmware / developer key / disable-security on all > and updated the OLPC OS to the latest stable build on all but the two > oldest ones, which I am keeping at 65x for compatibility testing (I > understand there are still a large number in use at this time). > > There are plenty of links on laptop.org detailing how to test what you > have, upgrade etc. but no one source. I plan to update the SL wiki > page concerning XOs shortly with an easy-to-follow procedure linking > to the relevant OLPC pages. > > thanks > > Sean > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Kevin Cole wrote: >> In the words of Emily Litella[1] "Oh... Never mind." ;-) >> >> The solution: "disable-security". (The USB key had the developer key. >> So, in: boot. Out: no developer key, no boot.) >> >> References: >> 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Litella >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1
A couple of weeks back I bit the bullet and over a couple of evenings filled out a table for my half a dozen XOs with these fields: Case head color Case body color XO name XO serial number Developer key Security disabled Build number OLPC-OS version Sugar version Firmware version Comment I then updated the firmware / developer key / disable-security on all and updated the OLPC OS to the latest stable build on all but the two oldest ones, which I am keeping at 65x for compatibility testing (I understand there are still a large number in use at this time). There are plenty of links on laptop.org detailing how to test what you have, upgrade etc. but no one source. I plan to update the SL wiki page concerning XOs shortly with an easy-to-follow procedure linking to the relevant OLPC pages. thanks Sean On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Kevin Cole wrote: > In the words of Emily Litella[1] "Oh... Never mind." ;-) > > The solution: "disable-security". (The USB key had the developer key. > So, in: boot. Out: no developer key, no boot.) > > References: > 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Litella > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Marketing] LinuxTag press release has been submitted - who will translate?
Caryl Bigenho has just come through for Spanish! I doff my cap in appreciation - in the days leading up to a press release, obtaining translations early means less pressure on release day. German is our most pressing need right now. thanks Sean On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Sayamindu, what's the best way to ask the several translation teams for help? > > Thanks, > > Tomeu > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Sean DALY > Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 00:57 > Subject: [Marketing] LinuxTag press release has been submitted - who > will translate? > To: Sugar Labs Marketing > > > Marketers! > > The LinuxTag press release has been submitted for publication > Wednesday morning EDT on June 24th, the first day of LinuxTag and > FOSSED. > > I wish to thank David, Caroline, Walter and in particular Fred Grose > for helping me with the final edits down to the wire, we just made the > deadline. > > Carlo Falciola whom I met at SugarCamp Paris has graciously offered to > translate the PR into Italian. > > I will do French as usual. > > Can we find volunteers to assist with German and Spanish? Could the > Translation Team aid us? > > thanks > > Sean > ___ > Marketing mailing list > market...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1
In the words of Emily Litella[1] "Oh... Never mind." ;-) The solution: "disable-security". (The USB key had the developer key. So, in: boot. Out: no developer key, no boot.) References: 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Litella ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Google sponsor of All for Good portal, matches volunteers with projects
Hi mike I will make this a high priority tonight or tomorow morning Any thoughts on local (ie in a school opportuntoes) bs sugar labs as a global cyber entity? Sent from my iPhone Caroline Meeks 617-395-7966 On Jun 20, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Mike Lee wrote: > Caroline, > > I do think you should be the person (or a backup) who registers Sugar > Labs as an organization in these systems. Since VolunteerMatch is the > largest opportunity aggregator in the U.S. with 57,000+ listings, I > recommend getting set up there with a free account. You'll need SL's > mission statement and EIN (tax I.D.). It takes 24 hours to get > approved. If you have time, I'd try to submit tonight to capitalize on > the big traffic spike that will happen from all the announcements next > week at the National Conference on Volunteerism and Service. A really > nice feature of VounteerMatch is that volunteers register too and > profile themselves. If there are people who have expressed in interest > in education and technology, they will be sent an email alert about > any opportunities posted by SL. Serve.gov and AllforGood do not offer > this and because they are new, it's unclear who does the reviewing or > how long it takes to get listed. AllforGood powers Serve.gov and pulls > in from VolunteerMatch anyway. > > Here is a good set of basic guidelines for writing volunteer > opportunity positions. > > http://nonprofit.about.com/od/volunteers/ht/voldespos.htm > http://www.nationalserviceresources.org/practices/17759 > > Mike > > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Caroline Meeks > wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> I want to list volunteer opportunities to help at the Gardner >> elementary and >> Lilla Fredrick Middle School. Both these schools will be working >> with Sugar >> this summer and there are opportunities to work directly with the >> kids and >> Sugar as well as providing technical, writing, marketing and >> fundraising >> support. >> >> Let me know when you figure out how I should do this and how we >> should tie >> all the various local projects into the overall Sugar Labs umbrella. >> >> Thanks, >> Caroline >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mike Lee >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm on it. It just so happens I am working directly with this Google >>> team here in D.C. as part of my day job. Also, one of our Learning >>> Club members is an engineer on the project. It was a major deal that >>> AllforGood.org powers the administartion's Serve.gov site. More >>> announcements coming next week. Small world... >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Sean DALY >>> wrote: http://www.allforgood.org/search#q=Education&num=10&start=1&vol_loc=11567&timeperiod=everything&cache=1 A good place for Local Labs in the USA to list? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> ___ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> >> >> -- >> Caroline Meeks >> Solution Grove >> carol...@solutiongrove.com >> >> 617-500-3488 - Office >> 505-213-3268 - Fax >> ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:37, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I'm very pleased to announce the first early preview of a new generation > of SoaS XO-1 images. Those consist not only of the latest and greatest > Sugar bits, but also a F11 base system and a special OLPC kernel based > on 2.6.30. > > This means now that even power management actually works out of the box. > There are some other points, for example the mostly working keyboard > keys. But this is really just a preview! > > You'll notice only very few activities in your home view, which is due > to a mistake in our config files. You'd be able to symlink the folders > from /usr/share/sugar/honey to ~/Activities, though. This is a known > issue, but if you come across others, please let us know! > > Finally, I'd like to take the chance to thank all the people for their > tremendous work, especially Martin Dengler and all the folks at OLPC! > > Now how can you get that? Just download the following two files: > > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/xoimages/devxo-1.crc > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/xoimages/devxo-1.img > > Put them on a USB key or a SD card, plug them into your XO and execute: > > copy-nand u:\devxo-1.img or copy-nand sd:\devxo-1.img > > Note that you'll need to have an unlocked XO and the latest firmware! > > So. Happy hacking and let us know what you think! :) What do I think? I think I made a mistake. So, I hosed my machine today... Following the directions above, it rebooted, showed the spankin' brand new "sugar" logo upon starting, booted into the sugar interface after asking for my name and gang colors. ;-) So far so good. I went into settings to change the time zone and it said it needed to restart. OK. Next, I'm at the Fedora login screen with a pre-printed "soas" username. Enter. Again, back at the sugar screen and all is well. Then shutdown. Then power on again. Uh-oh... Little XO stick kid and the startup sound (which always reminds me of a cross between the Westminster chimes and Close Encounters of the Third Kind sans the last note) appears as usual, and then: | Boot failed | OLPC C2, 256 MiB memory installed S/N SHF80703FA8 | OpenFirmware CL1 Q2E22 Q2E | | Powering off in 10 seconds Booting with the USB key in boots the latest and greatest, and shows that it remembered my username and gang colors. Oops. LATEST firmware... Back to the drawing board. So, download LATEST a.k.a. q2e41.rom, and check the MD5 and SHA1. All good. Booted from the USB key again, hit ESC, and told it to to "flash u:\q2e41.rom". It wanted to reboot before doing that, but then erased, flashed and checked. With the key in, XO kid, chimes, ignores ESC, shows a "Boot device: /nandflash ..." with kernel boot options that go by faster than I can read, and eventually comes up in the new Sugar with my name/colors still intact. Without the key, I see the boot failure with the new firmware number and a 30 second delay before shutdown. Help? -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] soas install to hard disk
Here is the english translation http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_en_CM/lang-en Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero < dir...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello > this is another link that could be of reference.. > > Only in spanish for now. > > http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_en_CM > > > > Rafael Ortiz > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm forwarding this to some people who I heard yesterday in IRC >> discussing this issue. >> >> If anyone has had success installing SoaS to disk and could share >> their experiences, would be great. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tomeu >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:28, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 09:21, Ashar Iqbal >> wrote: >> >> I have soas2 beta dated 14 April burned to a cd and booting/working >> >> fine on a PC. I now want to install the software onto the hard disk - >> >> cd is slow and temporary. hd would be faster and more permanent. >> >> >> >> I could run soas off a USB, but since the PC will be dedicated to >> >> running soas it makes more sense to use the hd. >> > >> > Hi Ashar, >> > >> > may be easier/better to download an official Fedora 11 image and >> > install it to your hard drive? Then you can install Sugar and use that >> > instead of GNOME. >> > >> > But it may be possible to install a Soas2 image to the hard disk with >> > the command 'anaconda', though I haven't tried it myself. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Tomeu >> > >> >> Ashar >> >> ___ >> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> >> > >> > > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Google sponsor of All for Good portal, matches volunteers with projects
Caroline, I do think you should be the person (or a backup) who registers Sugar Labs as an organization in these systems. Since VolunteerMatch is the largest opportunity aggregator in the U.S. with 57,000+ listings, I recommend getting set up there with a free account. You'll need SL's mission statement and EIN (tax I.D.). It takes 24 hours to get approved. If you have time, I'd try to submit tonight to capitalize on the big traffic spike that will happen from all the announcements next week at the National Conference on Volunteerism and Service. A really nice feature of VounteerMatch is that volunteers register too and profile themselves. If there are people who have expressed in interest in education and technology, they will be sent an email alert about any opportunities posted by SL. Serve.gov and AllforGood do not offer this and because they are new, it's unclear who does the reviewing or how long it takes to get listed. AllforGood powers Serve.gov and pulls in from VolunteerMatch anyway. Here is a good set of basic guidelines for writing volunteer opportunity positions. http://nonprofit.about.com/od/volunteers/ht/voldespos.htm http://www.nationalserviceresources.org/practices/17759 Mike On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I want to list volunteer opportunities to help at the Gardner elementary and > Lilla Fredrick Middle School. Both these schools will be working with Sugar > this summer and there are opportunities to work directly with the kids and > Sugar as well as providing technical, writing, marketing and fundraising > support. > > Let me know when you figure out how I should do this and how we should tie > all the various local projects into the overall Sugar Labs umbrella. > > Thanks, > Caroline > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mike Lee wrote: >> >> I'm on it. It just so happens I am working directly with this Google >> team here in D.C. as part of my day job. Also, one of our Learning >> Club members is an engineer on the project. It was a major deal that >> AllforGood.org powers the administartion's Serve.gov site. More >> announcements coming next week. Small world... >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Sean DALY wrote: >> > >> > http://www.allforgood.org/search#q=Education&num=10&start=1&vol_loc=11567&timeperiod=everything&cache=1 >> > >> > A good place for Local Labs in the USA to list? >> > ___ >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > carol...@solutiongrove.com > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] United we Serve
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:28, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > I'm not finding these instructions can you help? It appears there are a few different options: 1) On the main page (http://www.serve.gov/) one can click the blue "Register Now" button under "Register your Project" on the right. and/or 2) Follow the instructions at http://www.allforgood.org/spreadsheet (I got there by clicking the blue "Find Opportunities Now" on the Serve.gov main page which took me to the All for Good site (http://www.allforgood.org/). Once on that site, one can sign in from the menu in the upper right corner, and then at the bottom of the "About" page there is a bit: | Help us grow All for Good by using and improving the site | | Submit your listings to All for Good | | Is your organization interested in reaching a wider audience by | distributing your volunteer activities through All for Good? If so, | visit this page [http://www.allforgood.org/spreadsheet] with | instructions on how to get started. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fructose = Sugar essentials (was: ASLO Suggestion)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 07:41:32PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >2009/6/13 Jonas Smedegaard : >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 05:53:30PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>>On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 18:18, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 04:33:29PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >IMO, the only reason for an activity to be part of Fructose is to >be tied closely to the release cycle. For most activities this will >be a bad thing, but for some it's good. I think it's good for >activities that depend closely on some part of the platform, so >that when the platform updates, say, xulrunner or evince, the >activity for this release cycle won't work in the past releases and >past versions won't work in the last release cycle. Using the same >release cycle as the platform makes things much easier. I strongly disagree with above: Sugarlabs should provide a minimal, core, essential system, that other activities are supposed to rely on as sole platform. >>> >>>Agreed, that's >>>http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/SugarPlatform/0.84 >> >> Above looks like the environment required for developing Sucrose >> itself. > >No, those are the components that developers can use for their >activity and can expect to be available during runtime. Wauw, that is news to me: The platform to _develop_ activities is different than the platform to _run_ activities. I assumed that a working Sugar environment was supposed to be enough to take well-behaving Sugar activities apart and hack on them. Yes, I do know that the goal of supporting live editing activities by the learners have not been reached yet (except for a few Activities), but I still thought it was a goal - and pat of the vision with Sugar. >> Do you mean to say that an activity that contains C code linking >> directly to e.g. GTK+ 2.16 is ok? > >Yes. > >> IMO well-behaving non-Fructose activities should only require >> Glucose. I.e. to not bind directly to non-Glucose libraries or invoke >> any non-Sucrose commands. > >Why so? To provide a well-defined, fully scriptable Sugar ABI/API (see above) To allow activities to be portable across "implementations of Sugar" (to avoid the word "distribution" as has been discussed with SoaS). Essentially you are saying (or I am reading into it) that Fructose activities are those relying on unstable/missing Sugar ABI. >>> >>>No, released stable versions of fructose activities rely on at least >>>the last stable version of Sugar Platform. >> >> It makes sense to me that you consider some Sucrose releases stable >> as a whole. >> >> It makes no sense to me, however, that you consider individual >> Fructose activities stable and at the same time you say that "when >> the platform updates, say, xulrunner or evince, the activity for this >> release cycle won't work in the past releases and past versions won't >> work in the last release cycle." >> >> To me above sounds like a pretty exact description of an unstable >> ABI. > >Gtk+ has stable ABI, but you cannot expect that the latest GEdit will >work in a past release of Gtk+. Agreed. But that last part: "and past versions won't work in the last release cycle" is a different case, I believe. It makes sense to me that new features are added to new releases of Sugar, and that the use of those features makes newer releases of activities not work with older Sugar releases. But if older activity releases do not work with newer Sugar releases, then I would call it a broken ABI (and if a simple recompilation did not make the activity work either, the API was broken too). Did I misunderstand you, or did I perhaps misunderstand the fundamental logic of the terms ABI and API? >No activity _needs_ to be part of fructose. It's just a convenience >offered to activity authors that wish to use it. [snip] >The only reason for including an activity in Sucrose is because the >activity authors finds this release cycle convenient because of >synchrony with new releases of components like hulahop and >sugar-toolkit and because translators may have an easier time by >working on translations in one batch. Oh, now I am really confused: Any activity developer finding it convenient to follow the Sugar release cycle is welcome to have their activities included in Fructose?!? Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAko9M/4ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLiJ5ACfbTftrJAmKMVx8Na1yZn5w2k0 Qf4AnjPfLbduROrrdtaxRNL0/8qo5CKw =R1Mw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: sugar on a stick localized in farsi or pashto or both
Forwarding request from Carol Ruth Silver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Ruth_Silver) and Jim Stockford (http://www.sf-lug.org/). This is a big opportunity for SoaS deployment in Farsi and Pashto. I'm heading out to Jamaica for their pilot, so my bandwidth is a bit limited for the next few days. Please cc them on replies. cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ -- Forwarded message -- From: jim Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:22 AM Subject: sugar on a stick localized in farsi or pashto or both To: Sameer Verma Hi, Sameer, regarding carol ruth silver's upcoming trip to afghanistan, i'm hoping we can get sugar on a stick localized in both farsi and pashto: best case a single stick would boot and ask the user to choose either; having a grub-like menu choice would be good; having it come up in one but allow re-tuning to the other would be okay; having two different sticks, one in farsi and the other in pashto would be acceptable. do you know anyone in sugarlabs that can < facilitate getting us something approximating the above fast? jim 415 823 4590 my cellphone, call anytime ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Google sponsor of All for Good portal, matches volunteers with projects
Hi Mike, I want to list volunteer opportunities to help at the Gardner elementary and Lilla Fredrick Middle School. Both these schools will be working with Sugar this summer and there are opportunities to work directly with the kids and Sugar as well as providing technical, writing, marketing and fundraising support. Let me know when you figure out how I should do this and how we should tie all the various local projects into the overall Sugar Labs umbrella. Thanks, Caroline On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mike Lee wrote: > I'm on it. It just so happens I am working directly with this Google > team here in D.C. as part of my day job. Also, one of our Learning > Club members is an engineer on the project. It was a major deal that > AllforGood.org powers the administartion's Serve.gov site. More > announcements coming next week. Small world... > > Mike > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > > > http://www.allforgood.org/search#q=Education&num=10&start=1&vol_loc=11567&timeperiod=everything&cache=1 > > > > A good place for Local Labs in the USA to list? > > ___ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fructose = Sugar essentials (was: ASLO Suggestion)
2009/6/13 Jonas Smedegaard : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 05:53:30PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 18:18, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 04:33:29PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> IMO, the only reason for an activity to be part of Fructose is to be tied closely to the release cycle. For most activities this will be a bad thing, but for some it's good. I think it's good for activities that depend closely on some part of the platform, so that when the platform updates, say, xulrunner or evince, the activity for this release cycle won't work in the past releases and past versions won't work in the last release cycle. Using the same release cycle as the platform makes things much easier. >>> >>> I strongly disagree with above: Sugarlabs should provide a minimal, >>> core, essential system, that other activities are supposed to rely on >>> as sole platform. >> >>Agreed, that's >>http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/SugarPlatform/0.84 > > Above looks like the environment required for developing Sucrose > itself. No, those are the components that developers can use for their activity and can expect to be available during runtime. > Do you mean to say that an activity that contains C code linking > directly to e.g. GTK+ 2.16 is ok? Yes. > IMO well-behaving non-Fructose activities should only require Glucose. > I.e. to not bind directly to non-Glucose libraries or invoke any > non-Sucrose commands. Why so? >>> Essentially you are saying (or I am reading into it) that Fructose >>> activities are those relying on unstable/missing Sugar ABI. >> >>No, released stable versions of fructose activities rely on at least >>the last stable version of Sugar Platform. > > It makes sense to me that you consider some Sucrose releases stable as a > whole. > > It makes no sense to me, however, that you consider individual Fructose > activities stable and at the same time you say that "when the platform > updates, say, xulrunner or evince, the activity for this release cycle > won't work in the past releases and past versions won't work in the last > release cycle." > > To me above sounds like a pretty exact description of an unstable ABI. Gtk+ has stable ABI, but you cannot expect that the latest GEdit will work in a past release of Gtk+. About the opposite direction, you are right. We need people to help with keeping backwards compatibility, but I will note that we have never promised this. For python activities it's quite easy to add hacks to make the activity run in several releases, but requires that the author do a lot of testing. >>> With your logic, activities that rely on non-Sugar libraries, like >>> TamTam, should be part of Fructose, as future releases of CSound >>> cannot be trusted to keep binary compatibility. Just to name a >>> single example. >> >>I think you misunderstood me but cannot see in which way. TamTam, as >>any well-behaved activity, relies solely on a released version of the >>sugar platform. They are free to follow or not the sugar release cycle. > > Because there is a risk that due to its dependency on CSound, which > might change its ABI at some point in the future (similarly to xulrunner > has done recently), "when the platform updates, [...] the activity for > this release cycle won't work in the past releases and past versions > won't work in the last release cycle." > > But ok - you specifically used evince and xulrunner as examples, and > CSound did somehow not fit in as alternative. So let me try a different > example: > > You wrote, that in you opinion "the only reason for an activity to be > part of Fructose is to be tied closely to the release cycle." > > If someone writes another activity which needs xulrunner, should that > new activity then be part of Fructose too? No activity _needs_ to be part of fructose. It's just a convenience offered to activity authors that wish to use it. >>> In my opinion *no* activities should be tied to the Sugar release >>> cycle. Instead, *all* Activities, Fructose or not, should strive to >>> be backwards compatible, but might fail to do so for various reasons. >> >>I would like them to be backwards compatible but we should accept the >>fact that some won't be. Right now I'm adding tabs to Browse and I'm >>not going to try to find a way to make it backwards compatible because >>I have a ton of other things to work on. If someone else has the time >>and will to do so, patches are welcome. > > I am not pointing fingers at your work or the work of anyone else. I am > simply suggesting that backwards/forward compatibility not be the reason > for inclusion in Sucrose. > > If you agree with me in that, then please elaborate on what you meant > earlier, as I then clearly got it completely wrong. The only reason for including an activity in Sucrose is because the activity authors finds this release cycle convenient bec
Re: [IAEP] personalisation and collaboration
2009/6/15 Maria Droujkova : > David, > > For frameworks, you may want to look at "achievement systems" and "reputation > systems" (e.g. karma on slashdot). I just helped a colleague with his grant > proposal about adding achievement systems to a peer review-based authoring > environment, Expertiza, so we did some literature review for that. It's a > well-developed topic in gaming and in internet-based community studies. It > involves creating an "economy" of good deeds, basically. In more advanced > systems, users can define or co-define which deeds are considered "good." Greg, is this something related to the assessment framework you referred to the other day? Regards, Tomeu > -- > Cheers, > MariaD > > Make math your own, to make your own math. > > http://www.naturalmath.com social math site > http://groups.google.com/group/naturalmath future math culture email group > http://www.phenixsolutions.com empowering our innovations > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:48 PM, David Van Assche wrote: >> >> Having pondered this a bit more, I came up with a practical example. Lets >> say we have a student in Uruguay, lets call him Fernando, and lets say we >> have a student in the UK, lets call her Suzy. Suzy's Spanish is not great, >> as she hasn't had the chance to delve into it practically, nor is she >> getting the right idea about how everyday Spanish is used in Spanish >> countries, having relied on terrible cliched examples of her antiquated text >> books. Fernando's English is not very good, seeing as the only English he is >> subjected to are pirate movies he buys from the local market, so he's >> learned more slang than real English. His school isn't even teaching >> English, but he desperately wants to learn it. >> >> Colabot knows both of these users, as it has analysed every willing user's >> e-portfolio, and knows they would compliment each other perfectly say by >> sharing the Speak activity. Colabot could suggest times at which these 2 >> students could meet virtually and collaborate in order to improve their >> language skills. Colabot could keep track of their on going meetings, >> showing the amount of hours spent on language learning. Colabot could even >> give out an award or recognition after the students had spent X amount of >> hours learning together. >> >> The great thing about this example is that it seems to me to be pure >> construcionism with technology at its simplest and its best. The 2 students >> are teachers to each other, and colabot is there purely in the capacity a >> teacher normally should be, to guide the learning process. >> >> kind Regards, >> David Van Assche >> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Walter Bender >> wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:00 AM, David Van Assche >>> wrote: >>> > Something has been in the back of my head for a while now, ever since I've >>> > seen the impressive capabilities of being able to share an activity with >>> > your neighbourhood. Being able to cooperatively use applications brings a >>> > new level of playability to it all, and it reminds me of when I first saw >>> > the ability for a computer game to be 'multi-player.'This gave it an extra >>> > dimension, and with it came the idea of awards for completing certain >>> > things, which would be displayed in your dashoard somewhere.The award >>> > system >>> > seems even more relevant for education than it did for games. We'v aleady >>> > mentioned the benefits of an award sysem so I'm not going to regugitate >>> > that, but what hasnt''t really been spoken about is, how and what kind of >>> > personal details should the journal store and share. I see this as a >>> > customisable option, something that can be as simple as only sharing first >>> > names, or sharing the name of your pet, your favorite colors and foods, >>> > the >>> > languages you speak. >>> > >>> > This detailed information about a person is extremely valuable to the >>> > underlying system, as it can potentially match people against each other. >>> > This would allow for some interesting possibilities when it comes to >>> > collaboration, such as the system suggesting users to >>> > challenge/collaborate >>> > with based on personal information. I thought about having a robot that >>> > lives on an irc channel capable of helping with the collaboration >>> > procedure, >>> > as well as listing achievements, giving data on which users want to >>> > collaborate, giving help on how collaboration works with particular >>> > activities, listing which servers have open collaboration, showing the >>> > most >>> > used/highest rated collaborating activities, etc. >>> > >>> > I havent thought about this too much in depth, but I know coding a bot is >>> > not too hard. I see it as an extension to the speak AI, and encouragement >>> > to >>> > join irc. We can even get the bot to accept uploads of raw learning >>> > materials categorised by subject, which can then be used by content >>> > creators.
Re: [IAEP] What can I do in an hour? (was: An interesting project I stumbled across)
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: > To all: > > If you have a free hour you want to contribute, ... > > It's your collective intelligence and contributions that make wikis work > well. > Those with other ideas for a 'Sugar Hour' are welcome to add to this page, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/What_could_I_do_in_an_hour%3F It now links off of http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Getting_Involved . --Fred ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] What can I do in an hour? (was: An interesting project I stumbled across)
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Frederick Grose wrote: > > To all: > > If you have a free hour you want to contribute, please find a wiki page > (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/) that interests you--and could be improved with > something you know or could explain more clearly. +1 That's how I got started with OLPC. I wrote pages about something I knew, starting with keyboard layouts, fonts, and other language apparatus. > It's simple to click the edit tab button, and enter some new text or links, > or whatever you want. Don't worry about making a mistake with the formating, > others will come along to fix things up. > > If you don't want to edit the page directly, each page has a matching > 'discussion' page, which you can reach by clicking the 'discussion' tab > button at the top. These pages are meant to collect reader comments and > questions relevant to the parent page. See for example, > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Welcome_to_the_Sugar_Labs_wiki. > > Remember to click the 'Watch' tab button so you will be notified of changes > to the page. When you register your email with you account name, you can > also click the 'prefs' (preferences) link at the top right of any page, and > then, on the 'Watchlist' tab page, you can set a preference to add any page > you edit to your personal watchlist. > > If you want to enter whole new content pages, there are some guidelines at > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team/Guide/Page_Creation. There are > instructions there for experimenting with new pages in you personal > 'User_talk:' section of the wiki. > > By this means, you can share and collaborate on whole projects in the Sugar > Labs fields of interest, like Ed Cherlin's > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Creating_textbooks I'm about to start a new page that could use tons of research. One of Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn's staffers has asked me to provide data and contacts on all state-level one-to-one computing initiatives, including California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's plan for Free Digital Textbooks. While we are at it, I would like to collect data for all OLPC groups, and for city-level projects and country projects outside the US. This set of pages will support creation of a state consortium to develop one-to-one computing programs, including those using the XO, to share R&D costs and results, to demonstrate the benefits of Free Software, and to get contracts let out for developing Free Digital Learning Materials. Here is our first lesson: Alan Kay's Gravity for Ten-Year-Olds, done up in Turtle Art. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/0/0e/Gravity.odt And now I am off to a Linux Installfest to spread the word further. > Some of our wiki pages are meant to collect new ideas: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Request_New_Features > or questions: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_help#Help_Requests: > or problems: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Submit_Bugs/Problems > > Please take a hour to explore the wiki, learn what's there, and then consider > what's missing. > At your next opportunity, enter that missing piece! > > It's your collective intelligence and contributions that make wikis work well. > > Thank you, --Fred > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Maria Droujkova wrote: >> >> Caroline, >> >> "What can a volunteer do" is a good general question. I have been >> lurking on this list for a while, and I am still looking for some >> SHORT tasks (1 hour or so) someone completely new could do. The >> problem with most tasks is hours of preparation they seem to require >> before they even start making sense. Maybe I missed some noob tasks, >> too, because I could not tell them among others. I have lots more. Whatever you can do we can use. >> Cheers, >> MariaD >> >> Make math your own, to make your own math. >> >> http://www.naturalmath.com social math site >> http://groups.google.com/group/naturalmath future math culture email group >> http://www.phenixsolutions.com empowering our innovations > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] What can I do in an hour? (was: An interesting project I stumbled across)
To all: If you have a free hour you want to contribute, please find a wiki page ( http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/) that interests you--and could be improved with something you know or could explain more clearly. It's simple to click the edit tab button, and enter some new text or links, or whatever you want. Don't worry about making a mistake with the formating, others will come along to fix things up. If you don't want to edit the page directly, each page has a matching 'discussion' page, which you can reach by clicking the 'discussion' tab button at the top. These pages are meant to collect reader comments and questions relevant to the parent page. See for example, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Welcome_to_the_Sugar_Labs_wiki. Remember to click the 'Watch' tab button so you will be notified of changes to the page. When you register your email with you account name, you can also click the 'prefs' (preferences) link at the top right of any page, and then, on the 'Watchlist' tab page, you can set a preference to add any page you edit to your personal watchlist. If you want to enter whole new content pages, there are some guidelines at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team/Guide/Page_Creation. There are instructions there for experimenting with new pages in you personal 'User_talk:' section of the wiki. By this means, you can share and collaborate on whole projects in the Sugar Labs fields of interest, like Ed Cherlin's http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Creating_textbooks Some of our wiki pages are meant to collect new ideas: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Request_New_Features or questions: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_help#Help_Requests: or problems: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Submit_Bugs/Problems Please take a hour to explore the wiki, learn what's there, and then consider what's missing. At your next opportunity, enter that missing piece! It's your collective intelligence and contributions that make wikis work well. Thank you, --Fred On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Maria Droujkova wrote: > Caroline, > > "What can a volunteer do" is a good general question. I have been > lurking on this list for a while, and I am still looking for some > SHORT tasks (1 hour or so) someone completely new could do. The > problem with most tasks is hours of preparation they seem to require > before they even start making sense. Maybe I missed some noob tasks, > too, because I could not tell them among others. > > > Cheers, > MariaD > > Make math your own, to make your own math. > > http://www.naturalmath.com social math site > http://groups.google.com/group/naturalmath future math culture email group > http://www.phenixsolutions.com empowering our innovations > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] United we Serve
Hi Kevin, I'm not finding these instructions can you help? I want to get a listing for volunteers to work at GPA and Lilla Fredrick this summer. Lets work together to figure out how to efficiently get our opportunities posted on all the different volunteer sites and then replicate that for Sugar Labs in general and our local initiatives. Thanks, Caroline On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Kevin Cole wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 18:52, Kevin Cole wrote: > > > There's instructions on Good for All on setting up a shared Google > > spreadsheet that can be queried for events needing volunteers. I began > > to do that for some of our local efforts, but then got sidetracked. > > Oops. Good for All, All for Good, it's all good. Whatever. ;-) > > > -- > Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo > Washington, DC > http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ > -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: An interesting project I stumbled across
Caroline, "What can a volunteer do" is a good general question. I have been lurking on this list for a while, and I am still looking for some SHORT tasks (1 hour or so) someone completely new could do. The problem with most tasks is hours of preparation they seem to require before they even start making sense. Maybe I missed some noob tasks, too, because I could not tell them among others. Cheers, MariaD Make math your own, to make your own math. http://www.naturalmath.com social math site http://groups.google.com/group/naturalmath future math culture email group http://www.phenixsolutions.com empowering our innovations On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Frederick Grose wrote: >> > http://www.wizzydigital.org/index.html >> >> Wizzy Digital Courier is right in the middle of my longer-term plans. >> A quick google shows a few pages I've written in the wiki about it. > > Hi Martin, > > I like your vision for where the school server should go. I think it will > be an incredible resource for schools both with and without reliable > internet service. > > As we grow and get more volunteers, how can we more effectively get other > people contributing in parallel to making your vision a reality? > > We can take this as a specific example. Lets say we had someone in this > thread who though wizzy was awesome and wanted to help? What should that > person do? > > Thanks, > Caroline >> >> >> Not that I'm original. When I joined OLPC, Jim Gettys toured me over >> wwwoffle, WDC, rproxy, hashcache proxy and a myriad of other things I >> had to study. >> >> cheers, >> >> >> >> m >> -- >> martin.langh...@gmail.com >> mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect >> - ask interesting questions >> - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first >> - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > carol...@solutiongrove.com > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Open Office on XO?
And gnumeric runs quite nicely if launched from the Terminal. -walter On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: >> Hi... >> Has anyone out there in Sugarland been able to run Open Office on an XO? I >> have someone doing a project that sounds like he may need a spreadsheet >> program and a presentation program for. >> Caryl >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > There's SocialCalc (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/SocialCalc). You can > also try Gnumeric, although its not Sugarized > (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Spreadsheet). > > Some folks have tried OpenOffice for kids on the XO. > http://olpc-france.org/blog/2009/04/ooo4kids-openoffice-for-kids-on-the-xo/ > > cheers, > Sameer > -- > Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Information Systems > San Francisco State University > San Francisco CA 94132 USA > http://verma.sfsu.edu/ > http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Spanish Translation
OK will do many thanks Caryl Sean On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi Sean, > If you still need help with the Spanish translation, send it to me at > ca...@laptop.org. > Caryl > >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Sean DALY >> Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 00:57 >> Subject: [Marketing] LinuxTag press release has been submitted - who >> will translate? >> To: Sugar Labs Marketing >> >> >> Marketers! >> >> The LinuxTag press release has been submitted for publication >> Wednesday morning EDT on June 24th, the first day of LinuxTag and >> FOSSED. >> >> I wish to thank David, Caroline, Walter and in particular Fred Grose >> for helping me with the final edits down to the wire, we just made the >> deadline. >> >> Carlo Falciola whom I met at SugarCamp Paris has graciously offered to >> translate the PR into Italian. >> >> I will do French as usual. >> >> Can we find volunteers to assist with German and Spanish? Could the >> Translation Team aid us? >> >> thanks >> >> Sean >> ___ >> Marketing mailing list >> market...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing >> >> >> -- > > > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Open Office on XO?
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi... > Has anyone out there in Sugarland been able to run Open Office on an XO? I > have someone doing a project that sounds like he may need a spreadsheet > program and a presentation program for. > Caryl > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > There's SocialCalc (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/SocialCalc). You can also try Gnumeric, although its not Sugarized (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Spreadsheet). Some folks have tried OpenOffice for kids on the XO. http://olpc-france.org/blog/2009/04/ooo4kids-openoffice-for-kids-on-the-xo/ cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep