SVC 56 (ENQ) GTF TRACE

2007-05-01 Thread Anthony Fletcher
Has anyone any documentation as to how to interpret the GTF trace of SVC 56?

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Re: Mark load module non-executable

2007-05-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0500 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:It was briefly mentioned here that users should not put
:SMP/E distribution libraries in their TASKLIB catenations.
:We suspect one of our consumers has done this.  How can we,
:as suppliers discourage this?  Is there any way to force
:the non-executable attribute on a load module?  The closest
:I can find is only-loadable, which at least should prevent
:use of EXEC PGM= to invoke the module.

Why not simply protect the files?

Or uncatalog them and have the VOLSERs in the DDDEFs?

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Re: SVC 56 (ENQ) GTF TRACE

2007-05-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 1 May 2007 01:32:18 -0500 Anthony Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:Has anyone any documentation as to how to interpret the GTF trace of SVC 56?

Diagnosis: Reference has the SVC formats.

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Re: SVC 56 (ENQ) GTF TRACE

2007-05-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
 :Has anyone any documentation as to how to interpret the GTF trace of 
SVC 56?
 
 Diagnosis: Reference has the SVC formats.

What problem are you trying to solve ???.
Have a look at the (GRS) ENQ/RESERVE/DEQ monitor tool. Much less grief 
IMHO.

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Re: sysdsn enq

2007-05-01 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM


Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 In a recent note, Edward Jaffe said:
 
  Subject:  Re: sysdsn enq
  
  Ted MacNEIL wrote:
   After all, batch processing FREEs all data sets between steps,
but
   continues to hold the ENQ if a subsequent step uses the same data
set name.
  
   I don't thinks that's accurate.
   DSN allocation is not cleared until EOJ.
  
  Deallocated and the ENQ released after the last job step that uses
it.
  
 I'll agree with the unattributed quotation, FREEs all data sets
between steps,
 rather than Ed and Ted here.  From:
 
 Title: z/OS V1R6.0 MVS JCL User's Guide
 Document Number: SA22-7598-04
 
   4.2.1.1 Data Set Integrity Processing
 
When the system has secured control of all permanent data sets,
it allocates and unallocates resources for each step of the job.
The job terminates after the system has unallocated all resources
for the last step in the job.
 
 The phrasing unallocates resources for each step makes it clear
enough
 for me, taking FREE as synonymous with unallocate.
 
 -- gil

That is correct, as long as you don't take DEQ as synonymous with
FREE.

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Re: FW: Do we have to defrag MVS volumes on newer generation disk arrays?

2007-05-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
Greg,

Most of what I have done in the past centred on aggressive use of space
recovery software. I used ACC/SRS, but the same or similar can be achieved
with Stop-X37 (whatever it is called now) and SMS. I've run development
systems with average 4% free space this way.

1) Fewer and Larger Storage Groups - I generally work with five core storage
groups. I worked in shops with 80+ STORGRUPs, (128 is my record) and
consolidating these down to 5 was the single largest change that reduced X37
abends

2) Everything is multivolume. Combined with large Storage Groups, allocation
is encouraged to overflow on many volumes. I set the default for all
allocations to 5 volumes in the DATACLAS and with ACC, and used the ADDVOL
rules in SRS to automatically add volumes as a file grew. Files in 20-30
extents across 10-20 volumes are normal. This also helped reduce IOSQ for
large datasets.

3) Smallish primary allocation sizes. If everything can be multivolume and
multi-extent then why try and allocate everything in one extent. I used ACC
and Datclasses to reduce primary allocation sizes - the largest was 500
Cyls.

4) Primary Space reduction in SRS (Stop-x37, whatever). If you can't get it
the first time, try again. Reduction percentage should not be too small or
you spend a lot of MIPS redriving the allocation - I like 25%.

5) Secondary extents for everything and make them bigger. If I reduce the
primary then I also increase the secondary. Large datasets are allocated as
CYLS(500 500).

6) Secondary space reduction. So you can use all those little pieces of free
space that DEFRAG cleans up

7) Increase secondary allocation. This is an SRS (and STOP-X37) rule that
increases the secondary request as the file grows. If the dataset is growing
as it is used then ask for more space for each extent, and then trim it with
secondary space reduction if you can't get it. Helps stop datasets from
running out of extents.

8) In SMS use the secondary space value for allocation on subsequent
volumes.

9) Enforce SDB. I used ACC to add DSORG=PS and BLKSIZE=0 in all eligible
allocations.

10) Enable Space release on Management Classes.

11) Use extended format for VSAM so that space release works.

12) Convert CYL to track allocations. I used ACC to do this.

13) Use DFHSM MAXEXTENTS to consolidate PDS. This helps stop ordinary PDS
from blowing the 16 extent limit as they grow. Only single volume non-EF
non-VSAM datasets are selected. 

14) Monitor dataset extents. Look for files exceeding 50 extents as some
tweaking of rules or JCL may be required.


Many of these cases work together - you just can't do Primary space
reduction without add volume processing. One thing that became obvious as I
designed this is that fragmentation will persist, and with tools like space
release it would probably get worse. Rather than fight it, I looked at ways
to make sure free space could be used.

The site that drove this plan went from two X37 abends a night to 2 per
month with no additional DASD. The Production system was running at about
15-20% free space and development was at 4% free space. The only problems in
development system were occasional DFHSM recall failures, but this was 3 or
4 per month.

YMMV but this worked for me. And yes there were exceptions and special
cases, but only a few.

Ron

PS we stopped doing DEFRAGS the day I started consolidating the Storage
Groups

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 Ron, I'd be curious what some (or all) of those dozen are, if you have
 the time.  We're still running DEFRAGs, but if there's something more
 effective we could be doing, I'd like to hear about it.
 
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Re: FW: Do we have to defrag MVS volumes on newer generation disk arrays?

2007-05-01 Thread Richards.Bob
Ron,

I have no arguments with what you wrote except I probably would add
five DEFRAGs to it. One defrag of one volume per storage group per day
or per week. I would defrag the volume with the largest frag index. No
harm, no foul there and it may just handle one of those monthly space
abends.

Call this plan a compromise between arguments from both camps. A placebo
if you will. grin 

There, I feel better already! g,dr   

Bob Richards 


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 snipped a great write up 
  
  
  
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Re: FW: Do we have to defrag MVS volumes on newer generation disk arrays?

2007-05-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bob,

 

No problems with that. It's a lot better than the mid-afternoon religious
observation to DEFRAG that I have seen in too many sites. 

 

At 5 volumes a day some volumes may get their 2nd defrag after 2 or 3 years
g,d,r back at ya :-)

 

And the thought of using FCTOPPRCPRIMARY with random DEFRAGS scares my pants
off.

 

Ron

 

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 arrays?

 

 Ron,

 

 I have no arguments with what you wrote except I probably would add

 five DEFRAGs to it. One defrag of one volume per storage group per day

 or per week. I would defrag the volume with the largest frag index. No

 harm, no foul there and it may just handle one of those monthly space

 abends.

 

 Call this plan a compromise between arguments from both camps. A placebo

 if you will. grin

 

 There, I feel better already! g,dr

 

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Re: IEW2766S

2007-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/30/2007
   at 09:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Irrelevant; in this case I did not have unlike attributes.

How is Not unless everything in the SYSLIN concatenation is an HFS.
not relevant, other than the fact that it should have read *FS?

3.9.7 Concatenating UNIX Files and Directories

Read the text more carefully. It doesn't say that it will convert
record formats.

On the contrary, I have generally opposed this sort of prior
censorship;

It isn't censorship to say I don't have code to support that.

the application should attempt the OPEN and report the result

Not in the case where the result is that the OPEN appears successful
but the application will later ABEND or produce incorrect results.

Well enough for me. 

Only because you're not doing what you want the binder to do. Try
concatenating SYSUB with *FS files where the record formats are
different and see how well it works.

It appears

Appearances are decieving. 

that the DFSMS group has done its job well here; the Binder group
simply has a deficiency of faith in DFSMS.

The BINDER is part of DFSMS. The problem isn't a lack of faith in
OPEN, it's that they know something that you don't know. They probably
should allow concatenations that are strictly Unix files, but mixing
Unix with conventional QSAM would require more code than that. Not
rocket science, but still work that has to be justified with customer
requirements and a business case.

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Re: NL Usage for Tapes

2007-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/30/2007
   at 09:19 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

A counterexample:

Not really.

(CDC supported only 7-track at that time).

Actually they supported 14-track tapes as well.

After some RTFM and job log inspection, I learned that my
counterpart had used TRTCH=TE;

That was the sin for which there is no forgiveness. If he questioned
your judgement then he should have asked for confirmation rather than
changing the specifications without your knowledge or consent.

even (E) was the presumptive mode for data transfer. 

For him; that doesn't make it universal.

But that will leave 8-bit bytes spanning 6-bit data frames on the
tape; you'll never be able to process it on foreign equipment!

When he says anything so obviously wrong, why would you trust his
judgement of what is universal, or even common?

So, yes, in days of yore, apparently one programmer considered even
parity universal.

I can find programmers who considered the Moon landings to be hoaxes.

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Re: RES: Counting occurrences of a string in loadlib

2007-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/29/2007
   at 03:14 PM, Ira Broussard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

It sure seems to work. It found all occurrences of the string in each
load module.

Try a load module with large CSECT's.
 
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Re: even parity

2007-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/29/2007
   at 10:07 PM, glen herrmannsfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 I believe, though, that even parity was
all to common for 7 track tape. 

Even parity was common on the decimal computers, e.g., 650, 1401,
1410, 7010, 7070, 7080. Odd parity was mandatory for binary data on,
e.g., 7040, 7090.

I don't know specifically which systems allowed/used
even parity seven track, but I do recall that it was used.

Used, yes; universal, no.
 
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Re: LX and ASN reuse

2007-05-01 Thread Peter Relson
CVTALRS indicates that z/OS support for ASN-and-LX reuse is present. This
means, among other things, that you can use such things as the LXSIZE
operand of LXRES. This bit is on for all still-supported z/OS releases
(i.e., z/OS 1.6 and follow-on).

CVTALR indicates that the architecture is enabled. That means that you will
actually get a reusable LX if you request one (and thus must meet the usage
requirements for that such as setting the high half of GPR 15 with the
proper value before using that LX in issuing a PC). And if we had actually
enabled ASN reuse, and if your address space were architecturally reusable,
you would not be able to SSAR or PT to it but would need to use SSAIR / PTI
if the architecture demanded it.

Peter Relson
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FTP from a Windows PC to Mainframe server

2007-05-01 Thread Pradeep_Vasudevan
Hi All,

 

I tried to FTP from my Windows PC to Mainframe with the help
of command prompt. It did work. Could any one suggest my if the FTP from
a PC to a Mainframe sequential file is possible with 'Wise FTP' or any
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Re: FTP from a Windows PC to Mainframe server

2007-05-01 Thread גדי בן אבי
No reason why it should not work.

There are some FTP clients that are more mainframe friendly.

One is called Seagull FTP and can be downloaded from 
http://www.seagullsoftware.com/

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I tried to FTP from my Windows PC to Mainframe with the help of 
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Mainframe sequential file is possible with 'Wise FTP' or any other such FTP 
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Re: FW: Do we have to defrag MVS volumes on newer generation disk arrays?

2007-05-01 Thread Richards.Bob
Ron,

Obviously my suggestion has to take into consideration what else is
going on in one's shop. I wouldn't exactly recommend this for shops
doing data movement either (as we are). I cannot remember the last time
I saw a DEFRAG here. We also have DTS Software in house. Works fine,
lasts a long time.


Bob Richards 


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Bob,

 

No problems with that. It's a lot better than the mid-afternoon
religious
observation to DEFRAG that I have seen in too many sites. 

At 5 volumes a day some volumes may get their 2nd defrag after 2 or 3
years
g,d,r back at ya :-)

And the thought of using FCTOPPRCPRIMARY with random DEFRAGS scares my
pants
off.


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Re: Mark load module non-executable

2007-05-01 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

It was briefly mentioned here that users should not put
SMP/E distribution libraries in their TASKLIB catenations.
We suspect one of our consumers has done this.  How can we,
as suppliers discourage this?  Is there any way to force
the non-executable attribute on a load module?  The closest
I can find is only-loadable, which at least should prevent
use of EXEC PGM= to invoke the module.

I'd be cautious about that.  You wouldn't want to have those attributes make 
it into your target libraries.  I don't know of a way to get SMP/E to assign 
different attributes to a load module in a distribution zone than what is 
assigned in the target zone.

You could perhaps discourage it by informing them that it is an unsupported 
configuration.

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Re: LX and ASN reuse

2007-05-01 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 07:13 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:

 And if we had actually
 enabled ASN reuse, and if your address space were architecturally reusable,
 you would not be able to SSAR or PT to it but would need to use SSAIR / PTI
 if the architecture demanded it.

Should this be read as stayed tuned ... ???.

Not having a need for such, I must admit to not having stayed on top of
these reuse developments.

Shane ...

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determining cause of deadlock

2007-05-01 Thread Debbie Mitchell
Is there any way to determine who was holding a reserve after the fact?  I
had a situation where systemA was holding an exclusive enq on a catalog but
systemB had the volume reserved.  The job holding the catalog enq on systemA
was cancelled, thus resolving the contention, before I could issue the
appropriate commands to determine who was holding the reserve.  I'd still
like to know, however, who/what was holding the reserve on systemB so I can
possibly avoid the problem in the future.  systemA is at z/OS 1.7 and
systemB is at z/OS 1.4.

TIA,
Debbie Mitchell

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Re: FTP from a Windows PC to Mainframe server

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
At my shop I have a function called FTPMVS.  I open a DOS command prompt and
the issue the command FTP FTPMVS.  It then prompts me for USERID and
PASSWORD.

Not sure if this is valid at other shops or not.  But by using this from my
PC DOS Command window, I created several Batch FTP processes to grab mvs
data sets down to the server of my dreams.


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Re: OS/390 Catalog in z/OS V1R7

2007-05-01 Thread Mark Baron
Thanks all for the help.

John was correct.  The new master catalog will be created using OS390 1.4
and not used by it - only in zOS 1.7 and higher.

There is no chance that any co-existence of toleration maintenance is
available.  Any suggestions on what to do with the user catalogs.  My
thought is to repro them using the OS390 system and then not touch them with
OS390 after zOS uses them.

Again, thanks.

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Re: determining cause of deadlock

2007-05-01 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM


Debbie Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Is there any way to determine who was holding a reserve after the
fact?  I
 had a situation where systemA was holding an exclusive enq on a
catalog but
 systemB had the volume reserved.  The job holding the catalog enq on
systemA
 was cancelled, thus resolving the contention, before I could issue the
 appropriate commands to determine who was holding the reserve.  I'd
still
 like to know, however, who/what was holding the reserve on systemB so
I can
 possibly avoid the problem in the future.  systemA is at z/OS 1.7 and
 systemB is at z/OS 1.4.
 
 TIA,
 Debbie Mitchell
 

Debbie,
If both systems are in the same sysplex, you shoud have received
messages IOS431I and commands D U,VOL=vv and D GRS,DEV=vv
issued automatically on SystemB.

Kees.
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Re: FTP from a Windows PC to Mainframe server

2007-05-01 Thread John Crossno
I've used WS-FTP Pro a lot. It has an option to let it figure out the
remote target. I used to specify what the remote target was myslef
versus the automatic mechanism, depending on whether I was going to
HFS/ZFS versus a native dataset. I'm sure other, free, ftp clients will
work equally as well.

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I tried to FTP from my Windows PC to Mainframe with the help
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Re: LX and ASN reuse

2007-05-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 1 May 2007 07:13:52 -0400 Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:CVTALRS indicates that z/OS support for ASN-and-LX reuse is present. This
:means, among other things, that you can use such things as the LXSIZE
:operand of LXRES. This bit is on for all still-supported z/OS releases
:(i.e., z/OS 1.6 and follow-on).
:
:CVTALR indicates that the architecture is enabled. That means that you will
:actually get a reusable LX if you request one (and thus must meet the usage
:requirements for that such as setting the high half of GPR 15 with the
:proper value before using that LX in issuing a PC). And if we had actually
:enabled ASN reuse, and if your address space were architecturally reusable,
:you would not be able to SSAR or PT to it but would need to use SSAIR / PTI
:if the architecture demanded it.

To break it down:

CVTALR is off - you cannot use SSAIR/PTI/ESTA 5

CVTALR is on, CVTALRS is off - the instructions SSAIR etc. can be used. Will
the high order word of the result of ESAIR/ESTA 5 be guaranteed to be safe so
that an SSAIR can be used? Or might it be garbage?

Both on - SSAR/PT may fail. ESAR will work.

Do I understand it?

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Re: determining cause of deadlock

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
After the fact may be more difficult.  But the things I would do are:

1)  See if there might be any SVC Dumps taken during the time.  They may
contain information on GRS even if the dump was not specific to this issue.
2)  See if there are any LOGREC data produced.  Sometimes yes, Sometimes no.
3)  Look in SYSLOG (OPERLOG) during the time the Contention messages are
produced on both systems.  See what batch jobs or other issues might be
happening at that time.  Sometimes you get lucky and see a process that will
give a clue to the issue.

Otherwise, definitely put in automation processes that get triggered on the
messages you saw and do the D U and D GRS commands.  You may also wish to do
a F CATALOG command to list the tasks currently in process in the
automation.  It may show what is being held in the CAS.

Lizette


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Changes in HFS

2007-05-01 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Moving to ZOS 1.7 in a couple of weeks. Don't know what, if anything, has 
ever been changed in the HFS. Is there a way to list out what might be local 
changes? We are not heavy users and all changes precede my arrival by years.
Thank you in advance.

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Re: determining cause of deadlock

2007-05-01 Thread Scott Barry
SMF record type 77 (RMF enqueue activity) may have information about the event.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.


Debbie Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:

Is there any way to determine who was holding a reserve after the fact?  I
had a situation where systemA was holding an exclusive enq on a catalog but
systemB had the volume reserved.  The job holding the catalog enq on systemA
was cancelled, thus resolving the contention, before I could issue the
appropriate commands to determine who was holding the reserve.  I'd still
like to know, however, who/what was holding the reserve on systemB so I can
possibly avoid the problem in the future.  systemA is at z/OS 1.7 and
systemB is at z/OS 1.4.

TIA,
Debbie Mitchell

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Re: FTP from a Windows PC to Mainframe server

2007-05-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 6:30:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

a PC to  a Mainframe sequential file is possible with 'Wise FTP' or any
other such  FTP software.





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Re: Changes in HFS

2007-05-01 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 07:57 -0500, Daniel McLaughlin wrote:

 Moving to ZOS 1.7 in a couple of weeks. Don't know what, if anything, has 
 ever been changed in the HFS. Is there a way to list out what might be local 
 changes? We are not heavy users and all changes precede my arrival by years.

Presumably this is the /var and /etc issue. Caused me a fair bit of
work.
See the migration guide, and Marnas (excellent) Share paper.
diff is your (if somewhat verbose) friend.

Shane ...

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Re: LX and ASN reuse

2007-05-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 7:09:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Not  having a need for such, I must admit to not having stayed on top of
these  reuse developments.




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Re: Ulterior Motive for IBM's Lawsuits

2007-05-01 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Steve,

North of NZ - you mean New Caledonia and Vanuatu?
SNIP

Uh, I guess I suffer from a related problem in navigation as a certain
US made fighter did. While upon crossing the equator on autopilot rumor
has it that a formation flight collectively did immediate aileron rolls
to inverted (after all, their autopilots had determined they were now
upside down and needed to correct that situation) -- and surprised the
__ out of the pilots. 

Me, I just reversed east/west as I mentally crossed the equator and had
NZ on the wrong side of Australia.

Good thing airlines don't use military spec autopilots. Good thing I
don't fly one either.

Later,
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Re: FTP from a Windows PC to Mainframe server

2007-05-01 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Ed,

We use WhatsUp Gold in our network monitoring and it provides a lot of
bang for the buck.

Personally I used to use WS-FTP-Pro for years.  I found the licensing
terms and activation technology the adopted in recent releases a put
off.  

Now I only recommend SeaGull FreeFTP or Filezilla and that is what I
use.

Seagull FTP Freeware 

http://www.seagullsoftware.com/products/bluezone/free-ftp.html 

Filezilla 

http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ 

Cyberduck on Max OS X though I have not connected to z/OS from my Mac
desktop since I don't have support for the corporate VPN configuration

http://cyberduck.ch/ 

Best Regards, 

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a PC to  a Mainframe sequential file is possible with 'Wise FTP' or any
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Re: FTP from a Windows PC to Mainframe server

2007-05-01 Thread McKown, John
I haven't tried it very much, but FireFox now has a ftp client (plug in)
that looks fairly nice. Much like FileZilla, in fact.

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Re: Ulterior Motive for IBM's Lawsuits

2007-05-01 Thread Richards.Bob
Hey, watch it there! To broad of a sweeping statement! :-)

Bob Richards (Ex-USAF Autopilot Specialist on C5As, C141s and C130s)


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Good thing airlines don't use military spec autopilots. Good thing I
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Re: determining cause of deadlock

2007-05-01 Thread John Laubenheimer
On Tue, 1 May 2007 07:22:09 -0500, Debbie Mitchell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there any way to determine who was holding a reserve after the fact?  I
had a situation where systemA was holding an exclusive enq on a catalog but
systemB had the volume reserved.  The job holding the catalog enq on 
systemA
was cancelled, thus resolving the contention, before I could issue the
appropriate commands to determine who was holding the reserve.  I'd still
like to know, however, who/what was holding the reserve on systemB so I 
can
possibly avoid the problem in the future.  systemA is at z/OS 1.7 and
systemB is at z/OS 1.4.

TIA,
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If you are running RMF with ENQ(DETAIL) as an option, you should be able to 
execute the RMF post-processor with REPORTS(ENQ).  This won't tell you 
exactly what is causing the problem, but it should get you close enough that 
you can surmise what's going on.

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Re: FTP from a Windows PC to Mainframe server

2007-05-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 8:59:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

We use  WhatsUp Gold in our network monitoring and it provides a lot of
bang for  the buck.

Personally I used to use WS-FTP-Pro for years.  I found  the licensing
terms and activation technology the adopted in recent  releases a put
off.  




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for  the operators at about 1/8 the cost. 
 
The committee selected Hummingbird's Host Explorer for site emulator and  
it's evolved into a fairly decent package. Fortunately I went to high school  
with the auditor and they still like ws_fpt for gathering stuff from all 
around.  
I usually just get a complimentary copy to keep up with the  Jones.  



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Re: FW: Do we have to defrag MVS volumes on newer generation disk arrays?

2007-05-01 Thread Greg Shirey
Ron,

Thanks for the list - and it's more than a dozen!   I'm happy to see
we're doing a lot of this already but since we have no product like
ACC/SRS (or even HSM) to help, you've mentioned several things we can't
do.  Also, we have no production control staff, so JCL is all in the
hands of the programmers, and they have no time to go through and
modify it to do better data set allocations.  sigh.. 

I did wonder about your number 8 suggestion - this is for extended
format VSAM only, isn't it?  I thought that for all other data sets, you
get the primary when you extend to a new volume.

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company 

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disk arrays?

snip 

8) In SMS use the secondary space value for allocation on subsequent
volumes.

snip 

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Re: RES: Counting occurrences of a string in loadlib

2007-05-01 Thread Ira Broussard
 
I tried it with modules that had multiple CSECTs up to 8K per CSECT in  
length and it worked. Since I can guarantee that a CSECT is never larger than 
8K  
(since I wrote the code), I don't have to worry about CSECTs larger than that,  
although I don't understand why you think there would be a problem. One of my 
 test load libraries contains a block size of 6160 resulting in CSECTs 
spanning  multiple records, and it still works.
 
Ira
 
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It sure seems to  work. It found all occurrences of the string in each
load  module.

Try a load module with large CSECT's.

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Re: Ulterior Motive for IBM's Lawsuits

2007-05-01 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Hey, watch it there! To broad of a sweeping statement! :-)

Bob Richards (Ex-USAF Autopilot Specialist on C5As, C141s and C130s)


SNIPAGE

Good thing airlines don't use military spec autopilots. Good thing I
don't fly one either. 
SNIP

If memory serves me correctly, it was the F16 on the first flight that
went south of the equator. And someone from the Lazy-L told me it was a
variable that had the wrong sign.

I don't drive anything larger than a single engine piston land aircraft
at this point (nothing military).

Later,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Ulterior Motive for IBM's Lawsuits

2007-05-01 Thread Mike Bell

Wasn't it the F-16 that rebooted when the Israeli's were doing test flights
over the dead sea?  didn't have code to support a negative altitude and the
dead sea is about 1500 feet below sea level.


Mike

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Re: FW: Do we have to defrag MVS volumes on newer generation disk arrays?

2007-05-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
Greg,

VSAM gives you a new primary extent when you go to a new volume. Setting
this to Secondary will change this behavior for extended format VSAM.

For DSORG=PS you get the secondary allocation when you go to a new volume.

ACC is a a very kewl way to undo whatever your programmers have done to
their JCL without actually having to change the JCL itself.

Ron

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 Subject: Re: FW: Do we have to defrag MVS volumes on newer generation disk
 arrays?
 
 Ron,
 
 Thanks for the list - and it's more than a dozen!   I'm happy to see
 we're doing a lot of this already but since we have no product like
 ACC/SRS (or even HSM) to help, you've mentioned several things we can't
 do.  Also, we have no production control staff, so JCL is all in the
 hands of the programmers, and they have no time to go through and
 modify it to do better data set allocations.  sigh..
 
 I did wonder about your number 8 suggestion - this is for extended
 format VSAM only, isn't it?  I thought that for all other data sets, you
 get the primary when you extend to a new volume.
 
 Greg Shirey
 Ben E. Keith Company
 

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Re: Mark load module non-executable

2007-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 1 May 2007 06:57:46 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:45:26 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

I'd be cautious about that.  You wouldn't want to have those attributes make
it into your target libraries.  I don't know of a way to get SMP/E to assign
different attributes to a load module in a distribution zone than what is
assigned in the target zone.

In this case, the target libraries are built with Binder JCLIN rather than
IEBCOPY, so different PARM values in UTILITY entries for the target and
DLIB zones can cause the load modules to have different attributes.

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Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Okay, I have forgotten so much about TSO/VTAM I need to little refresher course.

We have 160 for Max Usr defined.  We have 256 VTAM Applids defined for TSO 
usage.  Yet we are getting IKT011I Message TCAS UNABLE TO ACCEPT LOGON RC=100

We use TCPIP to logon to TSO but that is about the only difference I can think 
of.

What would I need to look at to see why the IKT011I message is being produced?  
From the message I am at a loss to explain the lack of TCAS Logons.

100
   No more TSO user APPLIDs are available. You may have defined too
   few TSO user APPLIDs.   


Lizette

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Re: IEW2766S

2007-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:21:55 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

that the DFSMS group has done its job well here; the Binder group
simply has a deficiency of faith in DFSMS.

The BINDER is part of DFSMS. The problem isn't a lack of faith in
OPEN, it's that they know something that you don't know. They probably
should allow concatenations that are strictly Unix files, but mixing
Unix with conventional QSAM would require more code than that. Not
rocket science, but still work that has to be justified with customer
requirements and a business case.

The code to handle concatenations mixed of UNIX files and Classic data
sets already exists in QSAM; they do not appear as unlike attributes in
the formal sense.  In fact it requires more code to perform
separate handling of UNIX and Classic as Binder apparently does.

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 10:10:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What  would I need to look at to see why the IKT011I message is being  
produced?  From the message I am at a loss to explain the lack of TCAS  Logons.





Hard to tell w/o more info. Normally TCP recycles APPLIds. Are you  
experiencing network problems? D net,pending or a few NETSTAT commands ought to 
 give 
you a clue. 



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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
No - no network issues, the D NET,PENDING has nothing queued.  NETSTAT does not 
show any issues.

We are at z/OS V1.7.  We made no changes to any parms.  Our MAX Address space 
in IEASYS00 is 375, we currently have 363 address spaces running.  In TSOKEY00 
our USERMAX=160 (D TS indicates only 80 out of 160 being used).  We show VTAM 
TSO Appl display with 256 appls but up to 80 show ACT/S the rest are CONCT.

Confusion abounds.  There are no additional error messages indicating a 
problem.  I may open an ETR to IBM if I am unable to resolve this issue.  

Do you think any USS processes may be affecting my MAX Address Space 
information?  Or am I barking up the wrong O'Ladder? 

So - other than VTAM TSO Appl definitions and USERMAX, anything else to look at 
for TSO?

Lizette





Hard to tell w/o more info. Normally TCP recycles APPLIds. Are you  
experiencing network problems? D net,pending or a few NETSTAT commands ought 
to  give 
you a clue. 



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Re: FTP from a Windows PC to Mainframe server

2007-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 1 May 2007 16:50:00 +0530, Pradeep_Vasudevan wrote:

I tried to FTP from my Windows PC to Mainframe with the help
of command prompt. It did work. Could any one suggest my if the FTP from
a PC to a Mainframe sequential file is possible with 'Wise FTP' or any
other such FTP software.

The FTP interface specified in RFC 959 was never designed for the
sort of automated hierarchy traversal performed by GUI FTP clients.
It's remarkable not that such products work well, but that they
work at all.

RFC 959 provide (among others) the following commands:

NLST, which returns a list of file names, one per line.  The reply
from NLST does not distinguish between directory names and base file
names.

LIST, which returns a display, intended to be human readable, of file
names with unspecified descriptive information.  Implementors generally
cause LIST to return the directory listing characteristic of some
command prompt option familiar to users of the host system.

SYST, which returns a description of the host operating system.  The
z/OS FTP server nowadays returns:

215 UNIX is the operating system of this server. FTP Server is running on 
z/OS.

... Smart GUI FTP clients can use this reply to select a scheme to parse
the output of the LIST command to infer information not provided by NLST.
But here z/OS provides a rude surprise for the smart client: the format
returned by LIST depends strongly on the last CWD performed.  If the user
does CWD to a UNIX directory, the format returned is that of the UNIX
ls -l command; after CWD to a Classic prefix, the format is that of
(I'm guessing) that returned by the TSO LISTDS command.  So the smart GUI
client can't rely on the value in the 215 UNIX ... response, but must
further guess the format to parse based on content.  And this depends on
the client's considering z/OS prevalent enough to be worthy of the support
resource.

It's remarkable that they work at all.

HTTP is a protocol more suited to automated traversal: HTML is better formally
specified than the response to FTP LIST.  Regardless, before the ascendancy
of the WWW and its search engine crawlers, there were analogous crawlers
such as Archie that traversed the FTP (and NNTP?) universe.

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Re: LX and ASN reuse

2007-05-01 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/01/2007 
08:43:03 AM:

 On Tue, 1 May 2007 07:13:52 -0400 Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 :CVTALRS indicates that z/OS support for ASN-and-LX reuse is present. 
This
 :means, among other things, that you can use such things as the 
LXSIZE
 :operand of LXRES. This bit is on for all still-supported z/OS releases
 :(i.e., z/OS 1.6 and follow-on).
 :
 :CVTALR indicates that the architecture is enabled. That means that you 
will
 :actually get a reusable LX if you request one (and thus must meet the 
usage
 :requirements for that such as setting the high half of GPR 15 with the
 :proper value before using that LX in issuing a PC). And if we had 
actually
 :enabled ASN reuse, and if your address space were architecturally 
reusable,
 :you would not be able to SSAR or PT to it but would need to use SSAIR 
/ PTI
 :if the architecture demanded it.
 
 To break it down:
 
 CVTALR is off - you cannot use SSAIR/PTI/ESTA 5
 
 CVTALR is on, CVTALRS is off - the instructions SSAIR etc. can be used. 
Will
 the high order word of the result of ESAIR/ESTA 5 be guaranteed to be 
safe so
 that an SSAIR can be used? Or might it be garbage?
 
 Both on - SSAR/PT may fail. ESAR will work.
 
 Do I understand it?

CVTALR is on, CVTALRS is off will never occur.  CVTALRS is always
on for z/OS 1.6 or higher, and never on for a lower release.  CVTALR
is never on for a release lower than z/OS 1.6. 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Think we found it.  In our VTAMLST definition for TSO, we had this

IST080I TSOH878  ACT/S  TSOH879  ACT/S  TSOH880  ACT/S   
IST080I TSOH8H8  CONCT  TSOH882  CONCT  TSOH883  CONCT   
IST080I TSOH884  CONCT  TSOH885  CONCT  TSOH886  CONCT   



After TSOH880 comes TSOH8H8.  And that is where we are stopping. So I am 
guessing that VTAM stopped because the TSOH8H8 was not acceptable for some 
reason.  At least that is what coincidence is telling me.


We will change the TSOH8H8 to TSOH881 and cycle the TSO ACB tonight.  Will let 
you know how it works.

Lizette




No - no network issues, the D NET,PENDING has nothing queued.  NETSTAT does 
not show any issues.

We are at z/OS V1.7.  We made no changes to any parms.  Our MAX Address space 
in IEASYS00 is 375, we currently have 363 address spaces running.  In TSOKEY00 
our USERMAX=160 (D TS indicates only 80 out of 160 being used).  We show VTAM 
TSO Appl display with 256 appls but up to 80 show ACT/S the rest are CONCT.

Confusion abounds.  There are no additional error messages indicating a 
problem.  I may open an ETR to IBM if I am unable to resolve this issue.  

Do you think any USS processes may be affecting my MAX Address Space 
information?  Or am I barking up the wrong O'Ladder? 

So - other than VTAM TSO Appl definitions and USERMAX, anything else to look 
at for TSO?

Lizette





Hard to tell w/o more info. Normally TCP recycles APPLIds. Are you  
experiencing network problems? D net,pending or a few NETSTAT commands ought 
to  give 
you a clue. 



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Mark load module non-executable

2007-05-01 Thread Lynd, Eugene (Contractor) (J6C)
Paul Gilmartin asked Is there any way to force
the non-executable attribute on a load module?

File-AID 3.1 can do this.  Use option I and 
disposition OLD - you can then overtype the
attributes, including EXEC (executable).  

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:56 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100
 
 
 Think we found it.  In our VTAMLST definition for TSO, we had this
 
 IST080I TSOH878  ACT/S  TSOH879  ACT/S  TSOH880  ACT/S   
 IST080I TSOH8H8  CONCT  TSOH882  CONCT  TSOH883  CONCT   
 IST080I TSOH884  CONCT  TSOH885  CONCT  TSOH886  CONCT   
 
 
 
 After TSOH880 comes TSOH8H8.  And that is where we are 
 stopping. So I am guessing that VTAM stopped because the 
 TSOH8H8 was not acceptable for some reason.  At least that is 
 what coincidence is telling me.
 
 
 We will change the TSOH8H8 to TSOH881 and cycle the TSO ACB 
 tonight.  Will let you know how it works.
 
 Lizette

If you need this RIGHT NOW, then you can create a temporary VTAMLST
member containing only the TSO881 entry and V NET,ACT,ID=... to activate
it. 

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:41 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

No - no network issues, the D NET,PENDING has nothing queued.  NETSTAT
does not show any issues.

We are at z/OS V1.7.  We made no changes to any parms.  Our MAX Address
space in IEASYS00 is 375, we currently have 363 address spaces running.
In TSOKEY00 our USERMAX=160 (D TS indicates only 80 out of 160 being
used).  We show VTAM TSO Appl display with 256 appls but up to 80 show
ACT/S the rest are CONCT.
SNIP

I have been away from this aspect for a bit, but something to think
about:

While you did not say ADDRESS SPACE create failure was happening, a
quick look at the numbers, you only have 13 address spaces available.
Now, if you have a certain number in reserve for system usage...

So you might want to up your number of address spaces a bit to give
yourself just a bit more wiggle room.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Okay, one last help,
My vtam is very weak.

If I create a new member in VTAMLST with the TSOH881 will that allow vtam to 
use the remaining 100+ appls, or are they unavailable until I fix my ACB?

Lizette



If you need this RIGHT NOW, then you can create a temporary VTAMLST
member containing only the TSO881 entry and V NET,ACT,ID=... to activate
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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
We are planning to drop the MAX Address space from the individual IEASYS 
members (one per LPAR) and let the IEASYS00 member rule.  It has 1000 
specified.  Therefore, wiggle room will be obtained. We have IPLs scheduled for 
this weekend, so it will go in with those. 

Thanks for the advice.

Lizette

I have been away from this aspect for a bit, but something to think
about:

While you did not say ADDRESS SPACE create failure was happening, a
quick look at the numbers, you only have 13 address spaces available.
Now, if you have a certain number in reserve for system usage...

So you might want to up your number of address spaces a bit to give
yourself just a bit more wiggle room.


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Re: latest Principles of Operation

2007-05-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:55:24 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
*All* instructions should be used with care and with adequate
documentation. You don't need new instructions to write obscure 
code;
it's been done with BXH and BXLE.
...

From a binary search routine I inherited about 35 years ago.
This calulates the offset of the middle element of a table FSVO middle.
r2 = table entry length
r3 = (non-zero) table length

  BXLE  R2,R2,*   DOUBLE OFFSET UNTIL TAB SIZE
  SRL   R2,1GET MIDDLE ELEMENT

It works.  It might even be efficient for small tables.  But BXLE is
not an instruction I associate with numerical calculations.

It also has a BXH a few instructions later used for calculation and 
loop control (but a bit more obvious than R2,R2,*).

And the code came with no comments.

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 10:56:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

We will  change the TSOH8H8 to TSOH881 and cycle the TSO ACB tonight.  Will 
let  you know how it works.





So the VTAM def and the TCP LUs don't match up? Guess you could vary inact  
H8H8 in vtam and TCP and see if it continued with the existing  defs...



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Re: Changes in HFS

2007-05-01 Thread Craig Bakken
You might want to checkout the IBM Migration Checker for Z/OS 
  at http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/downloads/
  There are some specific checks for USS. 
  
Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Moving to ZOS 1.7 in a couple of weeks. Don't know what, if anything, has 
ever been changed in the HFS. Is there a way to list out what might be local 
changes? We are not heavy users and all changes precede my arrival by years.
Thank you in advance.


   
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Re: Mark load module non-executable

2007-05-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 1 May 2007 11:59:09 -0400, Lynd, Eugene (Contractor) (J6C) wrote:

Paul Gilmartin asked Is there any way to force
the non-executable attribute on a load module?

File-AID 3.1 can do this.  Use option I and
disposition OLD - you can then overtype the
attributes, including EXEC (executable).

Alas, File-AID is not among the utilities supported by SMP/E.
(I know, I didn't make that requirement explicit; it may have been
implicit in my use of SMP/E terminology.)

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:18 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100
 
 
 Okay, one last help,
 My vtam is very weak.
 
 If I create a new member in VTAMLST with the TSOH881 will 
 that allow vtam to use the remaining 100+ appls, or are they 
 unavailable until I fix my ACB?
 
 Lizette
 

They should then be available immediately. What is happening is that TSO
is trying to use the TSOH881 value, when it gets a bad RC from VTAM
(applid doesn't exist), it assumes that it ran out of possibilities and
just stops.

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Re: IEW2766S

2007-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/01/2007
   at 10:13 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The code to handle concatenations mixed of UNIX files and Classic
data sets already exists in QSAM;

FSVO. The code to handle mixed object module formats does *NOT* exist
in QSAM.
 
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Re: RES: Counting occurrences of a string in loadlib

2007-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/01/2007
   at 10:44 AM, Ira Broussard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I tried it with modules that had multiple CSECTs up to 8K per CSECT

That's still fairly small, although it is posible to hit the problem
even so.

I don't understand why you think there would be a problem. 

Because the linkage editor and the BINDER can split text at arbitrary
locations.

One of my test load libraries contains a block size of 6160 
resulting in CSECTs  spanning  multiple records, and it still works.

Try searching for a string that straddles text records.

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Re: RES: Counting occurrences of a string in loadlib

2007-05-01 Thread Ira Broussard
 
An 8K CSECT is fairly small? That seems odd to me. 99.99% of my CSECTs are  
less than 8K. Load modules (which are what I am scanning) are a  different 
story -- most all of my load modules are much larger than 8K due to  multiple 
CSECTs in the load module.
 
I understand the linkage editor can split a record anywhere it wants.  
However, why does that cause a problem if I am concatenating all of the records 
 for 
a load module into a single variable and scanning that variable? For  
example...
 
searcharea = 
do until EOF
   read record into newrecord
   searcharea = searcharea || newrecord
end
scan searcharea
 
I haven't done exhaustive testing, but the testing I did shows that the  
result is what I expected (including when the records had an odd number of  
bytes, 
e.g., not on a fullword boundary). If my search string was split  across the 
previous record and the new record, it is correctly un-split  in the 
concatenated storage area.
 
Ira
 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 12:19:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In  [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/01/2007
at 10:44  AM, Ira Broussard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I tried it with  modules that had multiple CSECTs up to 8K per CSECT

That's still fairly  small, although it is posible to hit the problem
even so.

I  don't understand why you think there would be a problem. 

Because the  linkage editor and the BINDER can split text at  arbitrary
locations.

One of my test load libraries contains a  block size of 6160 
resulting in CSECTs  spanning  multiple  records, and it still works.

Try searching for a string that straddles  text records.

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Tim Hare
Make changes to the current member of VTAMLST, issue V 
NET,ACT,ID=,UPDATE=ALL  and it should implement your changes on the 
fly.

VTAM has quite a bit of update-while-running functionality, rarely 
mentioned, but it is documented.

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Couple Datasets

2007-05-01 Thread Mark Steely
Is there a procedure to move these datasets while the system is active?
Any help would be appreciated. We are z/os V1R7.
 
Thank You  

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Will IEBGENER handle a HFS file

2007-05-01 Thread John Norgauer
I need to print the contents of an HFS file. Can IEBGENER do it or what
would you suggest?

Thansk


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Re: Couple Datasets

2007-05-01 Thread Field, Alan C.
Yes.  DO you have both primary and alternate datasets?

Do you want to move both?

Use the SETXCF COUPLE SWITCH to switch from primary to alternate. 

Delete and define a new primary. 

SETXCF SWITCH to make the new dataset the primary

Delete and define the alternate, use SETXCF command to make it the
alternate

This is the general idea, check the command syntax. We've done this
plenty of times with no problems. 

Alan
Subject: Couple Datasets

Is there a procedure to move these datasets while the system is active?
Any help would be appreciated. We are z/os V1R7.
 
Thank You  

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Re: Help with IKT011I Message RC=100

2007-05-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
I would also switch to using VTAM Generic resource definitions for TSO. 
Once this is in place you never will have problems with VTAM and TSO applids.

On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:48:08 -0400, Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Make changes to the current member of VTAMLST, issue V
NET,ACT,ID=,UPDATE=ALL  and it should implement your changes on the
fly.

VTAM has quite a bit of update-while-running functionality, rarely
mentioned, but it is documented.

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Re: Couple Datasets

2007-05-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
Easiest method is to define new couple datasets, then use the V XCF,SWITCH
commands as documented in the System Commands manual.

Also search the archives.  We've been down this road many times.

On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:02:17 -0500, Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there a procedure to move these datasets while the system is active?
Any help would be appreciated. We are z/os V1R7.
 
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Re: Couple Datasets

2007-05-01 Thread McKown, John
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 Is there a procedure to move these datasets while the system 
 is active?
 Any help would be appreciated. We are z/os V1R7.
  
 Thank You  

Yes, there is Oh! You want to know what it is. Create the new COUPLE
datasets where you want them to be. Then use the SETXCF command:

SETXCF TYPE=...,ACOUPLE=new.couple.dsn2
SETXCF TYPE=...,PSWITCH
SETXCF TYPE=...,ACOUPLE=new.couple.dsn1
SETXCF TYPE=...,PSWITCH
SETXCF TYPE=...,ACOUPLE=new.couple.dsn2

After the above, new.couple.dsn1 is the primary couple dataset and
new.couple.dsn2 is the alternate.

Update the appropriate members in PARMLIB as well.

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Re: Will IEBGENER handle a HFS file

2007-05-01 Thread McKown, John
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 I need to print the contents of an HFS file. Can IEBGENER do 
 it or what
 would you suggest?
 
 Thansk
 
 
 John Norgauer

Yes

//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD DUMMY
//SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1 DD PATH='...',FILEMODE=TEXT,
// LRECL=???,RECFM=??

Put in appropriate values for LRECL and RECFM. Yes, they are needed
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Re: Best practices for software delivery

2007-05-01 Thread Mark H. Young
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:30:30 -0500, McKown, John 
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 I have to agree with John.  I would suggest building an install package
 from XMIT output (or even do a 2 stage XMIT, ie create a PDS with XMIT's
 of the different libraries, then XMIT the PDS to a flat file), and make
 it available from the internet.  If the customer can't get the file via
 the internet from the mainframe, they probably can get it onto a PC.  
 I would only cut tapes as an absolute last measure.  At a past company, 
 we had our mainframe software available on the internet, and we
 never once had to cut a tape.
 Wayne Driscoll

This is how stuff is distributed on the CBTTape site. XMIT all the files
which make up the package. Put those XMIT'ed files into a PDS. Put one
or more members into this PDS which can expand (RECEIVE) the members
back into individual files. XMIT that PDS to another sequential file.
Then zip that sequential file in order to conserve space.

I even did this with some files that resided on UNIX. You use pax to
create an archive, and direct it out to a z/OS legacy dataset with
LRECL=1,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=?. Then XMIT the pax archive and put it in the
aforementioned PDS.


OK, I seem to be having an Alzheimer's moment.  I want to put a PDS in XMIT
format (PS), so I can transfer it to the PC and go from there.  I don't seem to 
have any JCL left laying around for that, and can't remember how to do it.  
This would be similar to the CBTTAPE format methodology.

Any and all helf would be appreciated.  I'm sure it's just a few lines of
XMIT/RECV commands, right?!


THANX,
Mark

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Re: Best practices for software delivery

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SNIP

 OK, I seem to be having an Alzheimer's moment.  I want to put 
 a PDS in XMIT
 format (PS), so I can transfer it to the PC and go from 
 there.  I don't seem to 
 have any JCL left laying around for that, and can't remember 
 how to do it.  
 This would be similar to the CBTTAPE format methodology.
 
 Any and all helf would be appreciated.  I'm sure it's just a 
 few lines of
 XMIT/RECV commands, right?!
 
 
 THANX,
 Mark

XMIT (NODE.USER) DSN(input.pds) OUTDSN(output.seq) NOLOG NONOTIFY
SYSOUT(Z)

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Re: Couple Datasets

2007-05-01 Thread Tom Gammon
In Setting Up A Sysplex (SA22-7625-12) page 31 states ...if a couple 
dataset must be moved to another volume, you cannot simply copy the old 
dataset to the new volume. You must format a new couple dataset on the 
desired volume, and bring it into service using SETXCF COUPLE,ACOUPLE and 
PSWITCH commands.





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Re: Will IEBGENER handle a HFS file

2007-05-01 Thread John Norgauer
Hi John - Got the following:

UNIDENTIFIED KEYWORD FILEMODE
KEYWORD DCB IS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH KEYWORD PATH ON THE DD STAT

I used these JCL's per your example:

07 //SYSUT1 DD PATH='/sysjcn/bpxerr.txt',FILEMODE=TEXT,
08 //DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80)


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PGP

2007-05-01 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
What are folks using for data transfers to/from the mainframe using PGP?



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Re: Will IEBGENER handle a HFS file

2007-05-01 Thread Richard Peurifoy

John Norgauer wrote:

Hi John - Got the following:

UNIDENTIFIED KEYWORD FILEMODE
KEYWORD DCB IS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH KEYWORD PATH ON THE DD STAT

I used these JCL's per your example:

07 //SYSUT1 DD PATH='/sysjcn/bpxerr.txt',FILEMODE=TEXT,
08 //DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80)


It should be FILEDATA=TEXT, and you can't specify DCB,
but you can specify LRECL and BLKSIZE by themselves.

Here is a job I use:

//*
//GENER   EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//*
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1   DD PATH='/tmp/gsk.fmt',
// PATHOPTS=(ORDONLY),
// FILEDATA=TEXT,
// RECFM=VB,LRECL=256,BLKSIZE=260
//SYSUT2   DD  SYSOUT=A
//SYSINDD  DUMMY


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Re: PGP

2007-05-01 Thread Debbie Mitchell
Zip390 from Data21.  The pricetag is pretty reasonable and the support is 
outstanding. 

Debbie Mitchell
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Re: Will IEBGENER handle a HFS file

2007-05-01 Thread McKown, John
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 Hi John - Got the following:
 
 UNIDENTIFIED KEYWORD FILEMODE
 KEYWORD DCB IS MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH KEYWORD PATH ON THE DD STAT
 
 I used these JCL's per your example:
 
 07 //SYSUT1 DD PATH='/sysjcn/bpxerr.txt',FILEMODE=TEXT,
 08 //DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80)
 
 
 John Norgauer

Damn! It is FILEDATA=TEXT, not FILEMODE. Bad fingers!

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Re: Best practices for software delivery

2007-05-01 Thread Mark H. Young
On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:21:51 -0500, McKown, John 
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SNIP

 OK, I seem to be having an Alzheimer's moment.  I want to put a PDS in 
 XMIT format (PS), so I can transfer it to the PC and go from there.  
 I don't seem to have any JCL left laying around for that, and can't 
 remember how to do it.
 This would be similar to the CBTTAPE format methodology.

 Any and all helf would be appreciated.  I'm sure it's just a
 few lines of XMIT/RECV commands, right?!


 THANX,
 Mark

XMIT (NODE.USER) DSN(input.pds) OUTDSN(output.seq) NOLOG NONOTIFY
SYSOUT(Z)

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Take a cold 12-pack out of petty cash on me.


TTFN,
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Re: PGP

2007-05-01 Thread Brian France
We're running Upstream to move our files to a MFL 
(MainFrameLinux)  image for pgp encryption and then ftp them from it. 
We also go the reverse with the process, ftp, pick up the file, 
decrypt and then move to z/OS.


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Re: Best practices for software delivery

2007-05-01 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 13:18 -0500, Mark H. Young wrote:
 I want to put a PDS in XMIT format (PS), so I can transfer it to the
 PC and go from there

Coming in late on the conversation, sorry, but I've recently become
enamored of AWS format for things I want to move.  It's directly
readable by the museum-piece Hercules system you've got running on your
desktop.

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Re: Will IEBGENER handle a HFS file

2007-05-01 Thread John Norgauer
Thanks Richard   - your sample worked great!


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SMS problem

2007-05-01 Thread Mark Steely
Thanks for all the info on switching the COUPLE datasets. 
 
I have a problem with SMS and calling in a tape dataset that is received
from an outside vendor. The tape volser does match a in-house volser. I
am doing a gener and have the volser, dsn, expdt=98000, and dataclas
specified. When the job is submitted it allocates the VTS drives and
calls for the in-house tape. When I change the input volume (SYSUT1)
from disp=shr to disp=new it calls for the correct tape device and tape
volume. This seems to only happen when the outside tape matches an
in-house volser. We are z/OS V1R7. 
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Re: SMS problem

2007-05-01 Thread Clark, Kevin
Mark, 

If this is a standalone mount request. Than your UNIT= should be a group
of non-acs devices. This would be my first solution attempt.

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Thanks for all the info on switching the COUPLE datasets. 
 
I have a problem with SMS and calling in a tape dataset that is received
from an outside vendor. The tape volser does match a in-house volser. I
am doing a gener and have the volser, dsn, expdt=98000, and dataclas
specified. When the job is submitted it allocates the VTS drives and
calls for the in-house tape. When I change the input volume (SYSUT1)
from disp=shr to disp=new it calls for the correct tape device and tape
volume. This seems to only happen when the outside tape matches an
in-house volser. We are z/OS V1R7. 
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thank You 

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Re: Best practices for software delivery

2007-05-01 Thread Knutson, Sam
Put this in a SYSPROC/SYSEXEC library and use it as a line command in
3.4


/* REXX MAKEXMI */  
/* Xmit PDS into data set for FTP */

 PARSE UPPER ARG dsn
 @dsn = dsn 
 @dsn2 = STRIP(@dsn,B,')  
say 'Processing' @dsn 'into XMIT format'

Address TSO   
 XMIT MVS.IBMUSER,
  PDS,
  NOLOG,  
  SYSOUT(X),  
  DATASET( || @dsn || ),
  OUTDATASET(' || @dsn2 || .XMI')   

Return 0   

You can make any variation that works for you locally for instance I
also have 

/* REXX MAKEXMIU */
/* Xmit PDS into data set for FTP with userid prefix */
   
 PARSE UPPER ARG dsn   
 @dsn = dsn
 @dsn2 = STRIP(@dsn,B,') 
 @who = sysvar(SYSUID) 
say 'Processing' @dsn 'into XMIT format'   
   
Address TSO  
 XMIT MVS.IBMUSER,   
  PDS,   
  NOLOG, 
  SYSOUT(X), 
  DATASET( || @dsn || ),   
  OUTDATASET(' || @who || '.' || @dsn2 || .XMI')   
Return rc   


Thanks, Sam


-Original Message- OK, I seem to be having an Alzheimer's
moment.  I want to put 
 a PDS in XMIT
 format (PS), so I can transfer it to the PC and go from 
 there.  I don't seem to 
 have any JCL left laying around for that, and can't remember 
 how to do it.  
 This would be similar to the CBTTAPE format methodology.
 
 Any and all helf would be appreciated.  I'm sure it's just a 
 few lines of
 XMIT/RECV commands, right?!
 
 
 THANX,
 Mark

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Re: RES: Counting occurrences of a string in loadlib

2007-05-01 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

Ira Broussard wrote:
I understand the linkage editor can split a record anywhere it wants.  
However, why does that cause a problem if I am concatenating all of the records  for 
a load module into a single variable and scanning that variable? For  
example...
 
searcharea = 

do until EOF
   read record into newrecord
   searcharea = searcharea || newrecord
end
scan searcharea
 
I haven't done exhaustive testing, but the testing I did shows that the  
result is what I expected (including when the records had an odd number of  bytes, 
e.g., not on a fullword boundary). If my search string was split  across the 
previous record and the new record, it is correctly un-split  in the 
concatenated storage area.


There is a little problem with your scheme. A load module 
contains control records and text records. Disregarding modules 
with the Only Loadable and Scatter Load attributes, each 
text record is preceded by at least one control record. To 
identify split strings, you need to examine the record type and 
not store the control data.


And if you ever consider using something similar to compare load 
modules, you need to be aware that depending on the sequence of 
events during linking/binding the module, CSECTs need not appear 
in the same order in functionally identical modules.


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Re: SMS problem

2007-05-01 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:54:55 -0500, Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for all the info on switching the COUPLE datasets. 
 
I have a problem with SMS and calling in a tape dataset that is received
from an outside vendor. The tape volser does match a in-house volser. I
am doing a gener and have the volser, dsn, expdt=98000, and dataclas
specified. When the job is submitted it allocates the VTS drives and
calls for the in-house tape. When I change the input volume (SYSUT1)
from disp=shr to disp=new it calls for the correct tape device and tape
volume. This seems to only happen when the outside tape matches an
in-house volser. We are z/OS V1R7. 
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 

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specified in the JCL, you can access an imported tape outside an automated 
library for input if you have another tape with the same volser in a 
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Re: SMS problem

2007-05-01 Thread Clark, Kevin
 
From the DFSMSdfp Storage Adminitration Reference:

With [EMAIL PROTECTED] and DISP=OLD and VOL=SER=nn 
specified in the JCL, you can access an imported tape outside an
automated 
library for input if you have another tape with the same volser in a 
system-managed library.

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Re: Best practices for software delivery

2007-05-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:46:24 -0400, Wayne Driscoll 
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Ok, time for me to spend some time on the soap box.  What is the
TECHNICAL reason for not allowing the Mainframe to access the 
network?
I don't understand this at all.  Every PC in your company probably can
access the internet, allowing employees to spend time browsing the 
web,
yet the mainframe can't be connected to the internet to allow for you 
to
QUICKLY get maintenance?  ...

Sorry to be late to a sopbox sub-thread ... especially one on a
favorite topic of mine. 

Wayne must have limited experience with corporate paranoia.

Every PC in our company probably DOES have access to the internet, 
but only through a proxy and only for well-known HTTP ports.  No
FTP.  No news servers.No anything but HTTP  HTTPS.

Some of use have access to an unathorized wireless access point
that is not on our LAN, but we have software that disables wireless
communication if an ethernet connection is active.  And all of the PCs
are locked down so that we cannot change such things.  (All
software is downloaded from a corporate server.)

We can freely FTP between mainframes and PCs but have to go 
off LAN to transfer to/from remote sites.  It's a royal pain!

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: SMS problem

2007-05-01 Thread Mark Steely
Thanks for the information this worked as designed. Here is the
information I found for this STORCLASS:

Problem 
Duplicate Tape Volser Bypass - [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
Solution 
SMS does not support duplicate tape volsers. In an SMS environment where
an IBM ATL or VTS exists, the mount will always be directed to the IBM
library that contains the duplicate volume regardless of any unit /
device parm specified. This is because SMS detects that they are in an
IBM Library environment early in the allocation process by calling OAM
to determine if the volser in question might be a library volser. If a
TCDB entry is found, or the Tape Mgmt. System (ie. RMM / CA / TLMS /
ZARA) indicates it is a library volser via CBRUXVNL, then the mount will
be directed to an associated library drive. This will result in either a
RC8 RSN51 failure indicating that 'you cannot do a specific mount of a
scratch volser within an ATL' (if the duplicate ATL volume is in SCRATCH
status), or worse, the mount of the wrong volume inside the ATL. 
Library users that need the ability to mount foreign tapes with
duplicate volsers on NON-SMS Standalone drives now have a way to bypass
this restriction. With SMS's introduction of the reserved storclas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (OW39564), customers can now request that the allocation be
forced to the NON-SMS standalone allocation path. As long as the
customer specifies DISP=OLD and [EMAIL PROTECTED], SMS will force the
allocation to NON-SMS. 

Note: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a reserved SC name. It must not be defined in the
SCDS. 

The use of storageclass [EMAIL PROTECTED] is preferred to the use of a dummy
volser and BLP in the JCL. 
 
Thanks for the assistance.

Thank You 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Zelden
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:38 PM
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Subject: Re: SMS problem

On Tue, 1 May 2007 13:54:55 -0500, Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Thanks for all the info on switching the COUPLE datasets. 
 
I have a problem with SMS and calling in a tape dataset that is 
received from an outside vendor. The tape volser does match a in-house 
volser. I am doing a gener and have the volser, dsn, expdt=98000, and 
dataclas specified. When the job is submitted it allocates the VTS 
drives and calls for the in-house tape. When I change the input volume 
(SYSUT1) from disp=shr to disp=new it calls for the correct tape device

and tape volume. This seems to only happen when the outside tape 
matches an in-house volser. We are z/OS V1R7.
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 

From the DFSMSdfp Storage Adminitration Reference:

With [EMAIL PROTECTED] and DISP=OLD and VOL=SER=nn specified in the
JCL, you can access an imported tape outside an automated library for
input if you have another tape with the same volser in a system-managed
library.

Mark
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Sizing CPU

2007-05-01 Thread Guy Gates
Hello,

 I am running a Z890 with 5 LPARS (3 Production, 1 Test and 1 SysProg). I 
need to get some Peak CPU numbers to determine if/when I need a New 
Processor. I can only seem to get Averages and my Management is not happy 
with those numbers. What are others that are running multiple LPARs on a 
Single Processor doing to get these numbers? 
 We converted from VSE to z/OS about 2 years ago and they were able to get 
these kinds of numbers from Explorer under VSE. 
 I am not a Performance or Capacity Person and only have SYSVIEW, RMF and 
SMF to get this information from. Can anyone help me?

Thanks,
Guy Gates
TTI System Programmer II

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z/OS Health Check XCF exceptions

2007-05-01 Thread Anthony Fletcher
The z/OS 1.7 Health Checker is reporting two XCF settings to be corrected:
1. The recommendation to have two TRANSPORT classes with different message
lengths defined. How can suitable mesage lengths be defined?

2. The recommendation for the XCF_FDI (INTERVAL) is based on the SPIN
settings, and the calculated default is 85. The actual setting is 180 which
is there because of a common belief that at some stage IBM recommended the
value of 180 rather than letting the system default. Does anyone remember
this recommendation of 180 being made, and why, and/or whether there is a
more current recommendation, eg use the defaults that come with the system.

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Re: z/OS Health Check XCF exceptions

2007-05-01 Thread Mark Steely
For question 1 this is IBM recommendation:

CLASSDEF CLASS(LARGE) CLASSLEN(16316) GROUP(UNDESIG) 
CLASSDEF CLASS(DEFAULT) CLASSLEN(956) GROUP(UNDESIG) 
  
LOCALMSG MAXMSG(2000) CLASS(DEFAULT) 

Thank You 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Anthony Fletcher
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: z/OS Health Check XCF exceptions

The z/OS 1.7 Health Checker is reporting two XCF settings to be
corrected:
1. The recommendation to have two TRANSPORT classes with different
message lengths defined. How can suitable mesage lengths be defined?

2. The recommendation for the XCF_FDI (INTERVAL) is based on the SPIN
settings, and the calculated default is 85. The actual setting is 180
which is there because of a common belief that at some stage IBM
recommended the value of 180 rather than letting the system default.
Does anyone remember this recommendation of 180 being made, and why,
and/or whether there is a more current recommendation, eg use the
defaults that come with the system.

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Re: Sizing CPU

2007-05-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
Guy,

No matter what monitor you are using you can only ever get averages. The
difference is the period of time used to get that average. In reality the
CPU is either 100% busy or 0% busy, and you are just reporting the average
of those states.

The PR/SM CPU activity reports from RMF have everything you need to report
on total CPU activity.

Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Guy Gates
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2007 6:06 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Sizing CPU
 
 Hello,
 
  I am running a Z890 with 5 LPARS (3 Production, 1 Test and 1 SysProg). I
 need to get some Peak CPU numbers to determine if/when I need a New
 Processor. I can only seem to get Averages and my Management is not happy
 with those numbers. What are others that are running multiple LPARs on a
 Single Processor doing to get these numbers?
  We converted from VSE to z/OS about 2 years ago and they were able to get
 these kinds of numbers from Explorer under VSE.
  I am not a Performance or Capacity Person and only have SYSVIEW, RMF and
 SMF to get this information from. Can anyone help me?
 
 Thanks,
 Guy Gates
 TTI System Programmer II
 

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Re: Sizing CPU

2007-05-01 Thread Norman Hollander
PARTINFO in Sysview will give you the Physical Utilization of all
the engines (including zIIPs and zAAPs).  RMF can collect and
report on it for you.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ron Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 SYSN 4:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sizing CPU

Guy,

No matter what monitor you are using you can only ever get averages. The
difference is the period of time used to get that average. In reality the
CPU is either 100% busy or 0% busy, and you are just reporting the average
of those states.

The PR/SM CPU activity reports from RMF have everything you need to report
on total CPU activity.

Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Guy Gates
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2007 6:06 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Sizing CPU
 
 Hello,
 
  I am running a Z890 with 5 LPARS (3 Production, 1 Test and 1 SysProg). I
 need to get some Peak CPU numbers to determine if/when I need a New
 Processor. I can only seem to get Averages and my Management is not happy
 with those numbers. What are others that are running multiple LPARs on a
 Single Processor doing to get these numbers?
  We converted from VSE to z/OS about 2 years ago and they were able to get
 these kinds of numbers from Explorer under VSE.
  I am not a Performance or Capacity Person and only have SYSVIEW, RMF and
 SMF to get this information from. Can anyone help me?
 
 Thanks,
 Guy Gates
 TTI System Programmer II
 

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Re: Sizing CPU

2007-05-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
Ron wrote on 02/05/2007 09:43:34 AM:

 No matter what monitor you are using you can only ever get averages. The
 difference is the period of time used to get that average. In reality 
the
 CPU is either 100% busy or 0% busy, and you are just reporting the 
average
 of those states.
 
 The PR/SM CPU activity reports from RMF have everything you need to 
report
 on total CPU activity.

There is also the RMF Spreadsheet Reporter. See
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/rmf/rmfhtmls/rmftools.html#spr_win
Check the overview pdf to get an idea of what you can do.

Pretty graphs the whole deal.

Shane ...

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Re: even parity

2007-05-01 Thread Jim Marshall
Someone asked the question about what good are reading tapes NL.
There are  valid reasons and these go back to the early years before
diskettes, etc, when  people wanted to tansfer data. Early, early on
the universal mode of transfer  was 7-track tape, BCD, Even-parity
with no labels.

 Even parity universal? I'm practically positive that you go back to
 the 7090 and 7094, where odd parity was the norm.

For NRZI, which was common before phase encoding of 1600BPI,
odd parity is best.  I believe, though, that even parity was
all to common for 7 track tape.  With even parity, one can't
write the character with all bits zero, as it results in no
magnetic transitions on the tape.  A character is recognized
by at least one track having a magnetic transition.

I don't know specifically which systems allowed/used
even parity seven track, but I do recall that it was used.

There was the fortune or maybe misfortune in the US Government of having 
IBM lose a court case for 35+ IBM systems in the Dept of Defense back in the 
late 1960s or early 1970s. A Federal judge ruled it stifled competition and 
therefore he carved up the award to so many Honeywell, RCA, CDC, SDS, DEC, 
etc, and a few IBM thrown in for good measure. So I there was a need to send 
data from one computer to another. 7trk, BCD, Even Parity, and no labels 
worked the best for me if indeed the other computing center said they could 
do 7 track tapes. Just simply asking for 9 track might bring some unknown 
type from a Brand-X system. Even with IBM systems the tape might have a 
paper label saying it was 9-trk and could not be read. My first shot was to try 
to 7-trk and most time I got lucky indeed it was. 

Those were very interesting times.   Jim 

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Re: Sizing CPU

2007-05-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
Guy wrote on 02/05/2007 08:06:08 AM:

  I am running a Z890 with 5 LPARS (3 Production, 1 Test and 1 SysProg). 
I 
 need to get some Peak CPU numbers to determine if/when I need a New 
 Processor.

This is not a good metric for determining upgrade requirements. WLM tends 
to run the LPARs at 100% - you'll probably find the CEC right up there 
most of the time as well.
As to what *is* a good (simple) metric, debate swirls.
When important work starts to miss its goals people tend to sit up and 
take notice.

Shane ...

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Re: LX and ASN reuse

2007-05-01 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/01/2007 
08:09:25 AM:

 On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 07:13 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:
 
  And if we had actually
  enabled ASN reuse, and if your address space were architecturally 
reusable,
  you would not be able to SSAR or PT to it but would need to use SSAIR 
/ PTI
  if the architecture demanded it.
 
 Should this be read as stayed tuned ... ???.
 
 Not having a need for such, I must admit to not having stayed on top of
 these reuse developments.

  The z/OS 1.9 manuals will document the mechanism for creating an
architecturally reusable address space under z/OS and the programming
issues for making use of these address spaces, so that may
make the picture a bit clearer (although since I wrote the documentation,
it may not be clear at all :-)  ). 

  However, actually being able run in an architecturally reusable 
address space may require changes to the product you want to run in 
such an  address space, and may also require changes in other products 
(IBM, ISV, homegrown, etc.) which provide services to that address space.
So the capability to exploit reusable address spaces will be likely remain
quite limited for a while. 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Re: Sizing CPU

2007-05-01 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip
I am running a Z890 with 5 LPARS (3 Production, 1 Test and 1 SysProg). 
I need to get some Peak CPU numbers to determine if/when I need a New 
Processor. I can only seem to get Averages and my Management is not 
happy with those numbers. What are others that are running multiple 
LPARs on a Single Processor doing to get these numbers?


We converted from VSE to z/OS about 2 years ago and they were able to 
get these kinds of numbers from Explorer under VSE.  I am not a 
Performance or Capacity Person and only have SYSVIEW, RMF and RMF to get 
this information from. Can anyone help me?

-unsnip--
IMHO, the best measure is whether or not important work is getting 
finished in a timely fashion. RMF CPU and LPAR reports can help in 
determining which LPARs are getting enough resources and the overall 
busyness of your CEC, but the bottom line is whether the business 
workloads are getting done in a timely fashion. If that's the case, then 
ask the same question about the TEST/Development workloads.


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