Group Limit and Weights

2009-02-26 Thread Werner Kuehnel
We have some problems to understand the relation between group limit and 
weights.
Let's say we have a CEC with 1000 MSUs, and 2 LPARs defined in an lpar 
group with defined MSU = 0 and a group limit of 50 MSUs.
The weights however are 80 (L1) and 20(L2) (sum of all weights is 1000) 
and so twice the size than the group limit.
Now when the sum of both 4h avgs exceeds 50 capping is turned on on both 
lpars.
Is the proportion of capacity each lpar gets under capping determined by 
the ratio of the weights, so that L1 gets four times as much as L2?
What is the max capacity under capping each lpar gets? Is it determined by 
the group limit or the weights?
I know that weights come into play when the CEC runs 100% busy, then they 
guarantee the min capacity for each lpar. But what role do they play under 
capping in an lpar group?
If someone has some more insight in this area I'd appreciate any help.

Werner Kuehnel

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Re: Pedantic Tape Analyzer?

2009-02-26 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Can this be written in Rexx?  IANASP.  IANAHLASMP.

Ok, you've got me in a corner in a round room... :)

What are these acronyms actually?

I think the first one is : I Am Not A System Programmer.

TIA! 

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: File Transfer Issue

2009-02-26 Thread Bri P
Well the OP was transferring the file in binary mode instead of ASCII (text), 
so there won't have been any character translation or end-of-line delimiting.

Brian

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Is it possible that there may be come character encoding/translation issues 
that would end up garbling the file as it passes from tinkertoyland to Big 
Iron?  

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In essence, Base64 encoding.. Turning binary data into graphic ASCII. For some 
reason, in PGP circles particularly, they call it 'ASCII-Armored'.


Brian

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Enterprise COBOL DSA layout

2009-02-26 Thread zosrothko
HI Listeners

I would like to know the layout/field definition of a cobol program DSA. Is 
there 
any way to get this information??

 (I am not speaking of the DSA layout produced by the compiler with the LIST 
option,  but of the layout of the variable memory area located between the 
CALL STATEMENT PROGRAM NAME address and the end of the DSA, i.e. the 
definition of all temporary variable used by the compiler for a cobol program 
without any LOCAL SECTION

TIA

zosrothko

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Re: Pedantic Tape Analyzer?

2009-02-26 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I am not a high-level assembler programmer?

Bob

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Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Can this be written in Rexx?  IANASP.  IANAHLASMP.

Ok, you've got me in a corner in a round room... :)

What are these acronyms actually?

I think the first one is : I Am Not A System Programmer.

TIA! 

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Can TOD (STCKE) be compressed into 12 bytes

2009-02-26 Thread Peter Relson
without losing its sysplex-wide uniqueness
STCK/STCKF/STCKE values are not sysplex-wide unique.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Can TOD (STCKE) be compressed into 12 bytes

2009-02-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:14:46 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:

without losing its sysplex-wide uniqueness
STCK/STCKF/STCKE values are not sysplex-wide unique.

Isn't that what the TOD Programmable Field (bits 112-127) is for?

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Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
Which IPCS display uses 143 columns? I thought IPCS used only 141.

IPCS uses up to 136.  We did this already (but it was probably 2 years ago).

Nope. IPCS uses what it can get, it seems. I just see the proof in a verbx 
mtrace output row 60, column 157 for one message.

I must have missed the IPCS discussion 2 years ago. It was my understanding 
that IPCS reports are 'sort of' preformatted - so they may appear to only use 
14x columns. The verbx vsmdata report used to change its format depending 
on the width of the screen - definitely different layout for 80 column screens. 
Some reports didn't have the need to scroll to the right, others would always 
use at least 132 or thereabouts.

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Re: FDRABR, DR, and Things That Go Bump In The Night

2009-02-26 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Thank you...that helps.

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Re: Group Limit and Weights

2009-02-26 Thread Kelman, Tom
This is an interesting question, and I would be interested in an answer
myself.  I know that if you had several LPARs with the sum off the
weights being 1000, but you didn't have any capping then L1 with a
weight of 80 would get (80/1000)*100 or 8% of the total machine, and L2
would get 2% if the CPU hits 100% utilization.  However, I'm not sure
what happens with you have group capping.  We don't have that here yet
because we're still on z/OS 1.7 so we have each LPAR capped separately.
I would guess the L1 would get 80% of 50 MSUs and L2 would get 20% of 50
MSUs.  Therefore, they'd get 40 and 10 MSUs respectively, or whatever
that translates to in MIPS for your processor.

Tom Kelman
Enterprise Capacity Planner
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632

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 Subject: Group Limit and Weights
 
 We have some problems to understand the relation between group limit
and
 weights.
 Let's say we have a CEC with 1000 MSUs, and 2 LPARs defined in an lpar
 group with defined MSU = 0 and a group limit of 50 MSUs.
 The weights however are 80 (L1) and 20(L2) (sum of all weights is
1000)
 and so twice the size than the group limit.
 Now when the sum of both 4h avgs exceeds 50 capping is turned on on
both
 lpars.
 Is the proportion of capacity each lpar gets under capping determined
by
 the ratio of the weights, so that L1 gets four times as much as L2?
 What is the max capacity under capping each lpar gets? Is it
determined by
 the group limit or the weights?
 I know that weights come into play when the CEC runs 100% busy, then
they
 guarantee the min capacity for each lpar. But what role do they play
under
 capping in an lpar group?
 If someone has some more insight in this area I'd appreciate any help.
 
 Werner Kuehnel
 
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Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-26 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:32:09 -0600, Tom Marchant m42tom-
ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote:

I used to routinely specify LOGMODE=D4C32XX3 when I connected.  That 
was before I learned that I could add this to the [Telnet3270] section in 
PComm:
TerminalTypeString=IBM-DYNAMIC

That tells TCPIP to use that as the default logmode.

Don't know if or how this relates, but there is also the [3270] setting:

QueryReplyMode=Auto

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Re: Screen size (was 3270 emulator cost)

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:25:37 -0600, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote:

Which IPCS display uses 143 columns? I thought IPCS used only 141.

IPCS uses up to 136.  We did this already (but it was probably 2 years ago).

Nope. IPCS uses what it can get, it seems. I just see the proof in a verbx
mtrace output row 60, column 157 for one message.


I must have missed the IPCS discussion 2 years ago.
snip

Sorry, it wasn't an IPCS discussion, it was the same discussion as this.

And my statement was misleading.  The 136 is the size needed to browse
storage and see 8 hex words on the left plus the EBCDIC stuff on the right
side of the screen.   I think that was the size Ed was using initially and what
I used also until I realized I wanted to be able to edit/view lrecl=133 and
see the whole thing with the sequence numbers.

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Loop around HASCSRDS on z/OS v1.r7 w/v1.r9 toleration PTFs

2009-02-26 Thread Mike Myers
Anyone:
 
We have installed the toleration PTFs for z/OS v1.r9 on z/OS v1.r7 and are 
experiencing occasional hangs which seem to occur when a job is submitted from 
TSO or from a batch job through INTRDR. In these cases, the submitter hangs and 
the submitted job will probably run. 
 
An examination of the trace table in a dump of the submitter's address space 
indicates repeated interrupts (timer pops and I/O interrupts) in the HASCSRDS 
load module. 
 
Has anyone out there experienced this problem and have any known solution? 
 
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Pitt County Memorial Hospital  

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Re: Loop around HASCSRDS on z/OS v1.r7 w/v1.r9 toleration PTFs

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:57:13 -0500, Mike Myers mike.my...@pcmh.com wrote:

Anyone:
 
We have installed the toleration PTFs for z/OS v1.r9 on z/OS v1.r7 and are
experiencing occasional hangs which seem to occur when a job is submitted
from TSO or from a batch job through INTRDR. In these cases, the submitter
hangs and the submitted job will probably run. 
 
An examination of the trace table in a dump of the submitter's address
space indicates repeated interrupts (timer pops and I/O interrupts) in the
HASCSRDS load module. 
 
Has anyone out there experienced this problem and have any known solution? 
 

Open a PMR with IBM.

Could be OA13994, but that is a fairly old APAR.  A search for JES2 LOOP R720
in IBMLINK returned 35 hits.   Filtering to updated on or after 1/1/2008 
returned 17 hits.

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SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I looked in the init  Tunning guide but it is not clear if the Value of a
symdef variable is limited in length. Can I use SYMDEF to create a variable
that holds 44 chars dsname?

Itschak

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Re: UnixSS and C

2009-02-26 Thread Thomas David Rivers

Hi Kevin,

 Check out http://www.dignus.com.

 It's not free - but it's pretty reasonably priced.

 And, I have to add this disclaimer - of course, I work there :-)

- Dave Rivers -


O'Mara, Kevin, ITD wrote:
I contend that in Windoze  Linux world, maybe most other operating systems, there is at least one free C compiler readily available. When I found that we did not have any C compiler, because of cost, I was very sadly surprised. All coding is HLASM, as we do, of course, have an assembler. 


To have a ported version of Unix with no C compiler seems absurd to me. Using 
USS for TCP/IP, FTP, SSL etc. I have hopes for PERL still.

Were there a C compiler readily available, how much more friendly would z/OS,  UnixSS in z/OS, appear to 
newcomers? Microsoft has always charged an arm  leg for their C compilers, still you can find a 
free C compiler for Windoze quite easily.

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SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread John McKown
I realize that most people likely use SAS for SMF reporting. We did this in
the past. Management has declared that SAS on the z is simply too expensive.
They also declared that installing the Windows version on our main user's PC
is also too expensive. End of discussion on that point.

So, what else could be used? It must either be something that we already
have, such as COBOL, EasyTrieve Plus (without the SMF add on), REXX, HLASM,
... . We cannot spend any hard money on this. Oh, it would be nice if if
were very CPU efficient because we just downgraded our z9BC from a V02 to a
T02 in order to save on software costs. And it must be such that doing ad
hoc requests can be responded to quickly. Yes, I know, give me the world,
but don't spend any money.

I am actually looking at downloading the raw SMF data to a Linux box (my
desktop) using BINary and SITE RDW. I did this for last week's SMF and had
about 14Gib of data. I know how to read this with Java. This may actually be
what I end up looking at doing. But I am the only person in my group who is
even mildly Java literate. The main performance person is not. And he
doesn't have access to my PC anyway. Of course, that is one reason that I'm
looking at Java. I have written Java in the past (minor application) which
truly was run anywhere. At least it ran, as compiled on the Linux box, on
32 bit Linux/Intel, 64 bit Linux/Intel, Mac OS/X, 32 bit Windows, and on the
z. I just transferred the jar file and ran it.

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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Staller, Allan
IIRC, there are some ASM and/or cobol packages on the CBT tape.

snip
I realize that most people likely use SAS for SMF reporting. We did this
in
the past. Management has declared that SAS on the z is simply too
expensive.
They also declared that installing the Windows version on our main
user's PC
is also too expensive. End of discussion on that point.

So, what else could be used? 
/snip

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Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:40:12 +0200, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote:

I looked in the init  Tunning guide but it is not clear if the Value of a
symdef variable is limited in length. Can I use SYMDEF to create a variable
that holds 44 chars dsname?


No.  The length can't be longer than the variable.

It is documented under SYMDEF for IEASYMxx in the MVS Initialization
and Tuning Reference.  The first sentence documents it, but I've included
the entire text from the fine manual.

The length of the resolved substitution text cannot exceed the length of
symbol, including the ampersand on symbol and excluding the
single quotation marks on 'sub-text'. For example, although the length
of sub-text exceeds the length of the symbol FRANKIE in the 
following example, the symbols contained in sub-text resolve to
1268ABC, which is a valid substitution text:


   SYMDEF(MARYJOE.='1234568')
   SYMDEF(FRANKIE.='MARYJOE(1:2).MARYJOE(-2:2).ABC')
 
However, the definition JOHN='JOHNDOE' is not valid because the
resolved substitution text JOHNDOE contains more characters than
the system symbol JOHN.



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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Tony B.
DF/SORT and/or ICETOOL are my first 2 choices.  Examples abound.  Take a
look at Frank Y.'s examples in the IBM web site first.  I wrote several
DF/SORT based SMF jobs years ago before we purchased a product that does a
much better job.

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Subject: SMF reporting question

I realize that most people likely use SAS for SMF reporting. We did this in
the past. Management has declared that SAS on the z is simply too expensive.
They also declared that installing the Windows version on our main user's PC
is also too expensive. End of discussion on that point.

So, what else could be used? It must either be something that we already
have, such as COBOL, EasyTrieve Plus (without the SMF add on), REXX, HLASM,
... . We cannot spend any hard money on this. Oh, it would be nice if if
were very CPU efficient because we just downgraded our z9BC from a V02 to a
T02 in order to save on software costs. And it must be such that doing ad
hoc requests can be responded to quickly. Yes, I know, give me the world,
but don't spend any money.

I am actually looking at downloading the raw SMF data to a Linux box (my
desktop) using BINary and SITE RDW. I did this for last week's SMF and had
about 14Gib of data. I know how to read this with Java. This may actually be
what I end up looking at doing. But I am the only person in my group who is
even mildly Java literate. The main performance person is not. And he
doesn't have access to my PC anyway. Of course, that is one reason that I'm
looking at Java. I have written Java in the past (minor application) which
truly was run anywhere. At least it ran, as compiled on the Linux box, on
32 bit Linux/Intel, 64 bit Linux/Intel, Mac OS/X, 32 bit Windows, and on the
z. I just transferred the jar file and ran it.

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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Rick Fochtman
I've always used Optimized PL/1 for these sorts of requests. It took me 
a while but I created PL/1 Structures for the various SMF records as 
needed; that was the hard part. After that, I used PL/1 to create quite 
a number of reports in a fairly short time: program usage statistics, 
ABEND statistics, performance, dataset usage, etc.


John McKown wrote:


I realize that most people likely use SAS for SMF reporting. We did this in
the past. Management has declared that SAS on the z is simply too expensive.
They also declared that installing the Windows version on our main user's PC
is also too expensive. End of discussion on that point.

So, what else could be used? It must either be something that we already
have, such as COBOL, EasyTrieve Plus (without the SMF add on), REXX, HLASM,
... . We cannot spend any hard money on this. Oh, it would be nice if if
were very CPU efficient because we just downgraded our z9BC from a V02 to a
T02 in order to save on software costs. And it must be such that doing ad
hoc requests can be responded to quickly. Yes, I know, give me the world,
but don't spend any money.

I am actually looking at downloading the raw SMF data to a Linux box (my
desktop) using BINary and SITE RDW. I did this for last week's SMF and had
about 14Gib of data. I know how to read this with Java. This may actually be
what I end up looking at doing. But I am the only person in my group who is
even mildly Java literate. The main performance person is not. And he
doesn't have access to my PC anyway. Of course, that is one reason that I'm
looking at Java. I have written Java in the past (minor application) which
truly was run anywhere. At least it ran, as compiled on the Linux box, on
32 bit Linux/Intel, 64 bit Linux/Intel, Mac OS/X, 32 bit Windows, and on the
z. I just transferred the jar file and ran it.

Any thoughts or commiserations appreciated.

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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:07:43 -0600, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote:

I realize that most people likely use SAS for SMF reporting. We did this in
the past. Management has declared that SAS on the z is simply too expensive.
They also declared that installing the Windows version on our main user's PC
is also too expensive. End of discussion on that point.

So, what else could be used? It must either be something that we already
have, such as COBOL, EasyTrieve Plus (without the SMF add on), REXX, HLASM,
... . We cannot spend any hard money on this. Oh, it would be nice if if
were very CPU efficient because we just downgraded our z9BC from a V02 to a
T02 in order to save on software costs. And it must be such that doing ad
hoc requests can be responded to quickly. Yes, I know, give me the world,
but don't spend any money.



What does hard money mean.   Zero? 

What kind of reporting?  Just SMF30 accounting type?Did you look 
at the CBT?  There are samples there.  I've done some stuff in rexx 
(report on steps, return codes, abends etc.).  Although I'm not suggesting
that since REXX can't deal with spanned records (I reproed them from 
VBS to VB for this - which was okay for the SMF 30s).   This was for a 
client so I can't share the code, but it was mostly for some ad-hoc stuff
the team lead / mgr wanted, so I had some pre-canned filter code:

/***/ 
/* Start of filter records section */ 
/***/ 
 /**/ 
 /* Add code here to select or exclude records based on SID,   */ 
 /* JESID, JOBNAME, STEPNAME, PROGNAME, CLS or RTCD.   */ 
 /**/ 
 /* EXAMPLES:  */ 
 /**/ 
 /* if PROGNAME  'SORT' then iterate */ 
 /* if RTCD = '' | RTCD = 'FLUSH' then iterate */ 
 /* if RTCD  'S0C1'  RTCD  'U0020' then iterate   */ 
 /* if JOBNAME  'ABCDEFGH' | PROGNAME 'SMFDUMP' then iterate   */ 
 /**/ 
/***/ 
/* End of filter records section   */ 
/***/ 

Did you look into other commercial software (CA-JARS, WPS instead of SAS)?

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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:32:49 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
wrote:


What does hard money mean.   Zero?

Correct. Hard money means a check made out to somebody. Soft money is
possible, but that basically means that __we__ do something to get the
report so our salary is paying for it.


What kind of reporting?  Just SMF30 accounting type?Did you look
at the CBT?  There are samples there.  I've done some stuff in rexx
(report on steps, return codes, abends etc.).  Although I'm not suggesting
that since REXX can't deal with spanned records (I reproed them from
VBS to VB for this - which was okay for the SMF 30s).   This was for a
client so I can't share the code, but it was mostly for some ad-hoc stuff
the team lead / mgr wanted, so I had some pre-canned filter code:

That's the main problem. It may be type 30. But it may be who used this
dataset? (we downloaded DAF for this from the CBT already). Or it may be
CICS performance (which transactions use the most CPU, most file calls,
etc). I think most of this latter can come out of Mainview for CICS.

The main problems are: (1) extreme vagueness as to what is wanted; (2) lack
to knowledge and experience with other possibilities for processing ad hoc
requests of SMF information.

Another thought is to convert the SMF data from its normal form to a
printable XML format which could then be downloaded to a PC (Windows or
Linux) and more easily processed there using normal PC tools.

I'm grasping at straws, I know. Thanks to all for not being too P.O.'ed at me.

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Re: Group Limit and Weights

2009-02-26 Thread Al Sherkow
The capacity of the group is distributed to the LPARs in the group based on
the normalized weights of the LPARs in that group. 

When the group limit is exceeded L1 would be 40 MSUs, (80% or 50) and L2
would get 10 MSUs. If L1 does not require 40, then the excess can be used by
L2 (just like without group limits). If L1 is not running at all then L2 can
have all 50 MSUs of the group. 

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z/OS 1.9 installation restore of USS file failure

2009-02-26 Thread Jerry Fuchs
This is my first attempt at installing z/OS. The restore of USS files 
failes with the following messages.

Calling pax (via BPXBATSL) to restore into  /Service 
Pax return code is: 0 
Running BPXISETS EXEC to convert to Symlinks 
/Service/etc  /Service/var 
 
The EXEC to convert the etc/ and var/ directories to symlinks has begun. 
It will run for a couple of minutes. 
 
The EXEC BPXISETS ran at  11:17:42  on  26 Feb 2009 . 
 
Either unmount the HFS data set on directory /Service/etc 
or move the contents of this directory into a separate 
HFS data set. Also ensure you have appropriate priviledges 
to execute this job. 
  RC=88RSN=5B530110 
 
Directory /Service/var converted to symlink successfully. 
 
The EXEC has completed with Return Code 12 

I created new/seperate ETC and VAR files. I have no idea what is wrong at 
this point as the above messages are all that I get. Not very discriptive.

Thanks, 

Jerry

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Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Smith, Sean M
Check the Init and Tuning Reference instead of the Guide.  The reference
is very clear about the length of the symbol as well the length of the
substitution text.

Sean

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I looked in the init  Tunning guide but it is not clear if the Value of
a
symdef variable is limited in length. Can I use SYMDEF to create a
variable
that holds 44 chars dsname?

Itschak

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Re: Can TOD (STCKE) be compressed into 12 bytes

2009-02-26 Thread Victor Gil
Thanks to everyone responded.

I should have stated my purpose more clearly - all the application needs is a 
some sort of a reference number, unique within a current week.  This is under 
CICS, so the goal can be easily achieved through the use of a named 
counter.  However, this would come with the overhead of the counter remote 
access and weekly maintenance.

The reason I was looking at the STCKE TOD is - in POP, under SCKPF 
instruction, it is documented to be unique within a multiple-configuration 
system.  [Isn't this a SYSPLEX?]

So, here's what I think the application should do:
1) determine the current day-of-week [Sun=0,...,Sat=6]; store as byte#1
2) calculate time since today's midnight [by dividing TOD into 0141 DD76  
which is 1 DAY in clock units, then multiplying by this very value and 
subtracting the result from the TOD]; this will only occupy 6 bytes in clock 
units, so store as bytes ##2-7
3) copy the *last* 4 bytes from the STCKE return into bytes ##8-11

This would require only 11 bytes and should be unique within a current week.

Comments, please?

Thanks!
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Re: FDRABR, DR, and Things That Go Bump In The Night

2009-02-26 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Hi Daniel,

I see Joseph Butz has already chimed in - they're all good people at IDP. We 
just had our annual DR test yesterday and we use FDRABR and FDRAPPL to restore 
and recover at DR. We're a pretty simple shop (no plex) but I'll be glad to 
help if I can. We use FDRDSF to backup the catalogs, etc, after the volume 
dumps and FDRAPPL to restore those pesky application datasets that seem to get 
scattered around. Currently we do not process the daily incrementals at DR - we 
only recover back to the last full dump (Sunday in our case). In a real 
disaster we could recover to the last night's backup. We do a lean mean DR test 
to save money. We don't have the luxury of FDRDRP to restore multiple volumes 
in parallel, but all the disk volumes we recover fit on one 3592 tape. This 
means just one tape mount but one-by-one disk restores. If you had a lot to 
recover in a short time I would suggest FDRDRP also - I looked at it and liked 
it. Yep, you get what you pay for... :)

Robert Johnston
UAMS - Little Rock, AR

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 Currently our DR backup JCL streams are generated by REXX EXECs and sent
 to the reader. We stack up to 15 volumes per 3590 in that process. Another
 EXEC generates restore JCL for use at DR. Now the DR maven wants us to
 look at FDRABR for incrementals and for the whole backup scenario in
 general.
 This would more than likely be a TYPE=AUTO with a weekly full dump and
 incrementals during the week. He is also interested in FDRAPPL to replace
 DRManager in use now.
 
 OK, here is my confusion. In my current process I have around 60 jobs to
 run
 at DR on the floor system. I simply restore the PDS containing those jobs
 and
 send them in. Now if we switch to FDRABR (AUTO) what is my course of
 action at DR? I've been combing through the manual but it's only opened up
 this type of question.
 
 Thank you!

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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Gibney, Dave
What's SAS on Winders cost? I thought it was pretty cheap, almost pocket
change?

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of John McKown
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:49 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: SMF reporting question
 
 On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:32:49 -0600, Mark Zelden
 mark.zel...@zurichna.com
 wrote:
 
 
 What does hard money mean.   Zero?
 
 Correct. Hard money means a check made out to somebody. Soft money
 is
 possible, but that basically means that __we__ do something to get the
 report so our salary is paying for it.
 
 
 What kind of reporting?  Just SMF30 accounting type?Did you look
 at the CBT?  There are samples there.  I've done some stuff in rexx
 (report on steps, return codes, abends etc.).  Although I'm not
 suggesting
 that since REXX can't deal with spanned records (I reproed them from
 VBS to VB for this - which was okay for the SMF 30s).   This was for
a
 client so I can't share the code, but it was mostly for some ad-hoc
 stuff
 the team lead / mgr wanted, so I had some pre-canned filter code:
 
 That's the main problem. It may be type 30. But it may be who used
 this
 dataset? (we downloaded DAF for this from the CBT already). Or it may
 be
 CICS performance (which transactions use the most CPU, most file
calls,
 etc). I think most of this latter can come out of Mainview for CICS.
 
 The main problems are: (1) extreme vagueness as to what is wanted; (2)
 lack
 to knowledge and experience with other possibilities for processing
ad
 hoc
 requests of SMF information.
 
 Another thought is to convert the SMF data from its normal form to a
 printable XML format which could then be downloaded to a PC (Windows
 or
 Linux) and more easily processed there using normal PC tools.
 
 I'm grasping at straws, I know. Thanks to all for not being too
P.O.'ed
 at me.
 
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Group Cap/MSU's question

2009-02-26 Thread Santosh Kandi
Hello Gurus,

I am interested to find out which of the 2 options below is better and why?

OPTION 1:
 LPAR A   DEFCAP=50
 LPAR B   DEFCAP=30
 GROUP CAP = 60

  OR

OPTION 2:
 LPAR A   DEFCAP=40
 LPAR B   DEFCAP=20
 GROUP CAP = 120

Assume that in both cases LPARS have access to all the CP's(2 CP CEC) and 
their weights are set at 65% and 35%.We are running on a  z9 EC machine 
with z/OS 1.9 in WLM goal mode. Also assume that both LPARS 4 hour rolling 
average will hit the caps and IMS,DB2,MQ run on both LPARS.

My view is that in both cases above the MAX MSU's charged will be 60MSU's. 
If this is correct I am trying to understand which of the above options is 
better overall CPU utilization (Peak and non-peak times).

Thanks in advance,
Santosh.

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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread David Betten
I'm not that familiar with it but the RMF Spreadsheet Reporter might povide
you with some z/OS performance reporting.
I'm pretty sure it comes with RMF so it probably meets your requirement of
being something you already have.


Have a nice day,
Dave Betten
DFSORT Development, Performance Lead
IBM Corporation
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 I realize that most people likely use SAS for SMF reporting. We did this
in
 the past. Management has declared that SAS on the z is simply too
expensive.
 They also declared that installing the Windows version on our main user's
PC
 is also too expensive. End of discussion on that point.

 So, what else could be used? It must either be something that we already
 have, such as COBOL, EasyTrieve Plus (without the SMF add on), REXX,
HLASM,
 ... . We cannot spend any hard money on this. Oh, it would be nice if
if
 were very CPU efficient because we just downgraded our z9BC from a V02 to
a
 T02 in order to save on software costs. And it must be such that doing
ad
 hoc requests can be responded to quickly. Yes, I know, give me the
world,
 but don't spend any money.

 I am actually looking at downloading the raw SMF data to a Linux box (my
 desktop) using BINary and SITE RDW. I did this for last week's SMF and
had
 about 14Gib of data. I know how to read this with Java. This may actually
be
 what I end up looking at doing. But I am the only person in my group who
is
 even mildly Java literate. The main performance person is not. And he
 doesn't have access to my PC anyway. Of course, that is one reason that
I'm
 looking at Java. I have written Java in the past (minor application)
which
 truly was run anywhere. At least it ran, as compiled on the Linux box,
on
 32 bit Linux/Intel, 64 bit Linux/Intel, Mac OS/X, 32 bit Windows, and on
the
 z. I just transferred the jar file and ran it.

 Any thoughts or commiserations appreciated.

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Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I RTFMed before asking, but it looked strange to me that the length of the
variable value is forced by the length of the variable name...

Itschak

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Smith, Sean M 
sean.m.sm...@bankofamerica.com wrote:

 Check the Init and Tuning Reference instead of the Guide.  The reference
 is very clear about the length of the symbol as well the length of the
 substitution text.

 Sean

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 I looked in the init  Tunning guide but it is not clear if the Value of
 a
 symdef variable is limited in length. Can I use SYMDEF to create a
 variable
 that holds 44 chars dsname?

 Itschak

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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What's SAS on Winders cost? I thought it was pretty cheap, almost pocket 
change?

Compared to 'normal' software on Windows it's expensive, and there's an annual 
fee, approx 15%.

But, it's been since 2004, that I've run SAS on a PC, so I could be out of date.

Also, if a company wants to spend ZERO, any cost is too expensive.

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Re: Group Cap/MSU's question

2009-02-26 Thread Martin Kline
FWIW, I prefer option 1. 

In effect, option 2 is similar to having two separate machines, one with a 
capacity of 40, and another with a capacity of 20. Neither LPAR can utilize 
unused capacity from the other. So, when LPAR B is practically idle, LPAR A 
still cannot use more than 40.

Option 1 allows LPAR A to utilize up to 83% of all CPU, and LPAR B up to 50%. 
This more effectively utilizes resources. The weights will keep the balance 
right when both LPARS have the demand to use more than their 2/3 or 1/3. 


I am interested to find out which of the 2 options below is better and why?

OPTION 1:
 LPAR A   DEFCAP=50
 LPAR B   DEFCAP=30
 GROUP CAP = 60

  OR

OPTION 2:
 LPAR A   DEFCAP=40
 LPAR B   DEFCAP=20
 GROUP CAP = 120

Assume that in both cases LPARS have access to all the CP's(2 CP CEC) and 
their weights are set at 65% and 35%.We are running on a  z9 EC machine 
with z/OS 1.9 in WLM goal mode. Also assume that both LPARS 4 hour rolling 
average will hit the caps and IMS,DB2,MQ run on both LPARS.

My view is that in both cases above the MAX MSU's charged will be 60MSU's. 
If this is correct I am trying to understand which of the above options is 
better overall CPU utilization (Peak and non-peak times).

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Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Smith, Sean M
The issue comes into play though when you use SYMBOLS in started task
JCL.  If the Symbol fits that would seem fine but it would be possible
for the substitution text to be longer and thus cause a JCL error.

Sean

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Subject: Re: SYMDEF length limitations

I RTFMed before asking, but it looked strange to me that the length of
the
variable value is forced by the length of the variable name...

Itschak

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Smith, Sean M 
sean.m.sm...@bankofamerica.com wrote:

 Check the Init and Tuning Reference instead of the Guide.  The
reference
 is very clear about the length of the symbol as well the length of the
 substitution text.

 Sean

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 Subject: SYMDEF length limitations

 I looked in the init  Tunning guide but it is not clear if the Value
of
 a
 symdef variable is limited in length. Can I use SYMDEF to create a
 variable
 that holds 44 chars dsname?

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Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:42:44 +0200, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote:

I RTFMed before asking, but it looked strange to me that the length 
of the variable value is forced by the length of the variable name...
...

I think the logic was to prevent JCL errors when symbols were expanded.
Whether or not that is correct, it is a very frustrating limitation.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:42:44 +0200, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

I RTFMed before asking, but it looked strange to me that the length of the
variable value is forced by the length of the variable name...

An onerous restriction likely arising from naive parser design.
The perpetrator ought to be required to retake Programming 101
in order to learn a better technique for performing symbolic
substution.

This brings to mind a couple additional questions:

o Is there an upper limit to the target name in the
  IDCAMS SYMBOLICRELATE operand _before_ substitution is
  performed?  This becomes important because the name
  before substitution must be at least as long as after
  substitution, and may likely be longer.

o Is the null string a valid symbol value?  E.g.:

SYMDEF(Z='')

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Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:51:43 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe wrote:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:42:44 +0200, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

I RTFMed before asking, but it looked strange to me that the length
of the variable value is forced by the length of the variable name...
...

I think the logic was to prevent JCL errors when symbols were expanded.
Whether or not that is correct, it is a very frustrating limitation.

Indeed.  And a singularly ill-motivated rule; it falls far
shy of its purpose.  Consider:

//SYSUT1  DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1WOMBAT.SAMPLIB

... which succeeds for SYMDEF(WOMBAT='.')
but fails with JCL error for SYMDEF(WOMBAT='XYZZY').

All it guarantees is that some parsers may omit checks for
buffer overflows.

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Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I think the logic was to prevent JCL errors when symbols were expanded. 
Whether or not that is correct, it is a very frustrating limitation.

I agree.
Symbols in PROCs and INCLIBs do not suffer from that limitation.
If you get a JCL error, recode.

The last proc/INCL I worked with was a special include for a PROC that was used 
in 34 countries, but had different parameters based on the volume of sales.

It was:

// SET SPACE=(CYL,(500,100)) -- for example

And in the PROC:

//DD1 DD  SPACE=SPACE, ... rest of DD statement

The value was longer than the variable name, but it worked.

If you had a JCL error (which I don't believe happened), you massaged the PROC 
to 'fix' it.

IIRC, JES2 didn't kill your job, if it got 'too long', but it's been a while.

So, I don't understand the SYMDEF restriction!

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Re: Can TOD (STCKE) be compressed into 12 bytes

2009-02-26 Thread Bob Rutledge
Assuming that the TOD Programmable Register uniquely identifies a machine in a 
parallel sysplex and given that successive STCKs yield different values on a 
single machine, why not STCKE to get the TOD Programmable Register and STCK to 
get a reference number.  Ten bytes.  Fewer moving parts.


Bob

Victor Gil wrote:

Thanks to everyone responded.

I should have stated my purpose more clearly - all the application needs is a 
some sort of a reference number, unique within a current week.  This is under 
CICS, so the goal can be easily achieved through the use of a named 
counter.  However, this would come with the overhead of the counter remote 
access and weekly maintenance.


The reason I was looking at the STCKE TOD is - in POP, under SCKPF 
instruction, it is documented to be unique within a multiple-configuration 
system.  [Isn't this a SYSPLEX?]


So, here's what I think the application should do:
1) determine the current day-of-week [Sun=0,...,Sat=6]; store as byte#1
2) calculate time since today's midnight [by dividing TOD into 0141 DD76  
which is 1 DAY in clock units, then multiplying by this very value and 
subtracting the result from the TOD]; this will only occupy 6 bytes in clock 
units, so store as bytes ##2-7

3) copy the *last* 4 bytes from the STCKE return into bytes ##8-11

This would require only 11 bytes and should be unique within a current week.

Comments, please?


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Re: EMC ControlCenter

2009-02-26 Thread Michael liberatore
Thanks. The discovery of the DMXs completed just took longer than I expected.

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I would probably open a case with EMC then.  I do not know how ECC works when 
talking to W32K to DMX box.

Lizette


 
 No! Trying this from open Systems (W23k).
 
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 Are you running this to look at Mainframe dasd?  If so, are you running the
 CMSAGENT on the mainframe?
 
 Lizette
 
 
 
 I have a question regarding discovering a EMC DMX via EMC ControlCenter. The
 DMX is attached to a ED140m a connectrix switch and the Symm/DMX is also
 connected to this switch. What ECC agent(s) do I need to install in order to
 via the DMX/SYMM? Are there other things to be considered as well? I can
 logon to the server that is attached to the SYmm/DMX via switch and issue
 SYMCLI display commands but I cannot see the Symm/DMX in ECC after
 installing the Symmetrix Agent.
 

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Re: z/OS 1.9 installation restore of USS file failure

2009-02-26 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:33:28 -0500, Jerry Fuchs wrote:

Either unmount the HFS data set on directory /Service/etc
or move the contents of this directory into a separate
HFS data set. Also ensure you have appropriate priviledges
to execute this job.
  RC=88RSN=5B530110


This reads like you've already got a /Service/etc directory defined and 
mounted. Maybe the process is expecting an empty /Service directory ???

I installed z/OS 1.9 a couple months ago and didn't have any problems with 
this portion of the install.

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Extra! emulator - highlight configuration

2009-02-26 Thread George.William
We use Attachmate's Extra! 3270 emulator client version 6.71 and I'm looking to 
change how the highlighting of text on the screen is displayed.
Currently the highlighting is a Dark Blue background with the text turned to 
white.
Well, ALLOT of my text is white and my background is black. It makes it 
difficult many times to see what I've highlighted.
 
Is anyone aware of a means to change this configuration? I checked all the help 
I can find and configuration settings and have not found anything related.
I love to be able to have the highlighting be cross hairs (outlined) in some 
manner but at a minimum be able to change the back ground color.
 
Thanks
 
Bill George
 

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Re: Extra! emulator - highlight configuration

2009-02-26 Thread Lester, Bob
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 Behalf Of George.William
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 Subject: Extra! emulator - highlight configuration
 
 We use Attachmate's Extra! 3270 emulator client version 6.71 and I'm
 looking to change how the highlighting of text on the screen is
 displayed.
 Currently the highlighting is a Dark Blue background with the text
 turned to white.
 Well, ALLOT of my text is white and my background is black. It makes
 it difficult many times to see what I've highlighted.
 
 Is anyone aware of a means to change this configuration? I checked
 all the help I can find and configuration settings and have not
 found anything related.
 I love to be able to have the highlighting be cross hairs (outlined)
 in some manner but at a minimum be able to change the back ground
 color.

Hi George,

   Are you sure it's EXTRA giving you the issue?  Have you tried SET
SCREEN from SDSF?

BobL

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Native 3592 tape and TS7700

2009-02-26 Thread Scott Rowe
I've been told something that I have a hard time believing, but I guess I 
better ask:
Is it possible to read a native (non-VTS) 3592 cartridge using a TS7700 VTS?
 
Unless something has changed since the older VTS models, I can't understand how 
you would accomplish this?
 
TIA


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Re: Extra! emulator - highlight configuration

2009-02-26 Thread George.William
SDSF is simply an application/system under TSO/ISPF. 
The emulator controls the highlighting of a windows based selection of an area 
of the screen.
This is what I'm looking to configure.
Thanks
Bill

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Hi George,

   Are you sure it's EXTRA giving you the issue?  Have you tried SET
SCREEN from SDSF?

BobL

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Re: Extra! emulator - highlight configuration

2009-02-26 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
You have some control over this from ISPF option 0.  Select Colors from
the Action Bar and choose option 2.

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SDSF is simply an application/system under TSO/ISPF. 
The emulator controls the highlighting of a windows based selection of
an area of the screen.
This is what I'm looking to configure.

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Re: Extra! emulator - highlight configuration

2009-02-26 Thread George.William
I've tried those too. nope. Thanks for the idea.

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You have some control over this from ISPF option 0.  Select Colors from
the Action Bar and choose option 2.

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SDSF is simply an application/system under TSO/ISPF. 
The emulator controls the highlighting of a windows based selection of
an area of the screen.
This is what I'm looking to configure.

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Re: Extra! emulator - highlight configuration

2009-02-26 Thread Field, Alan C.
I haven't got Extra V6, but on my V8 there is a Session tab has a drop
down that you can set colours and many other things. 

 

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Re: Extra! emulator - highlight configuration

2009-02-26 Thread George.William
The session tab on 6.71 only had Connect and Disconnect.
There is a SETTINGS applet that allows the changing of all sorts of colors but 
the option I'm looking for does not seem to exist within it. sigh.


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I haven't got Extra V6, but on my V8 there is a Session tab has a drop
down that you can set colours and many other things. 

 

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Re: Native 3592 tape and TS7700

2009-02-26 Thread Peter Bishop
Hi,

I believe the answer is no, but will be interested to hear if anyone has
accomplished this as we'd love to be able to do it here to get over a
short-term hump.

best regards
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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 11:05 -0800, Gibney, Dave wrote:

 What's SAS on Winders cost? I thought it was pretty cheap, almost pocket
 change?

Funnily enough, within the last week I had some-one who had migrated SAS
off the mainframe mention that the Windoze solution was (now) also
considered too expensive.
Sounds like they are also looking for a zero cost answer.

Shane ...

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Re: Native 3592 tape and TS7700

2009-02-26 Thread Scott Rowe
That's my position also, but we actually got this message from our DR provider:
As per our conversation earlier today, we have a VTS (Virtual Tape Server) 
that has a library with 3592 E05 drives in it, but no ATL type library with 
any. The VTS is the controller (or interface for the host) for this particular 
device. The VTS is essentially a box of DASD that acts as a buffer in tape 
operations; that's an extreme oversimplification of what it does, but that's 
the end result. Tape activity is slower than disk, so the disk in the VTS cache 
tape read write operations so that the CPU can continue to work while the tape 
'plays catch up'. The tapes don't read or write any faster, but with the disk 
acting as a buffer, processing activity can continue without tying up an I/O 
channel. On a read operation, my understanding is that it's no different than a 
stand alone tape would be. In other words, it's a 'direct feed' from the tape 
to the host.

 Peter Bishop peter.bis...@eds.com 02/26/09 7:07 PM 
Hi,

I believe the answer is no, but will be interested to hear if anyone has
accomplished this as we'd love to be able to do it here to get over a
short-term hump.

best regards
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Re: Native 3592 tape and TS7700

2009-02-26 Thread Peter Bishop
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:46:47 -0500, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote:

That's my position also, but we actually got this message from our DR provider:
As per our conversation earlier today, we have a VTS (Virtual Tape Server)
that has a library with 3592 E05 drives in it, but no ATL type library with
any. The VTS is the controller (or interface for the host) for this
particular device. The VTS is essentially a box of DASD that acts as a
buffer in tape operations; that's an extreme oversimplification of what it
does, but that's the end result. Tape activity is slower than disk, so the
disk in the VTS cache tape read write operations so that the CPU can
continue to work while the tape 'plays catch up'. The tapes don't read or
write any faster, but with the disk acting as a buffer, processing activity
can continue without tying up an I/O channel. On a read operation, my
understanding is that it's no different than a stand alone tape would be. In
other words, it's a 'direct feed' from the tape to the host.

 Peter Bishop peter.bis...@eds.com 02/26/09 7:07 PM 

Yes, that sounds about right.  

I'm more familiar with STK terminology, and in STK-speak our problem seems
to be that the data we need cannot be delivered MVC-format tapes
(Multi-Volume Cartridge - I don't know the IBM VTS equivalent term).  Were
that possible, we could insert them into the VTS and have them visible as
virtual tape volumes which we could then start using...

Good Luck.

best regards
Peter Bishop

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Re: SMF reporting question

2009-02-26 Thread Andrew Rowley
You might like to try my product, which I recently released for beta 
testing. It won't be free, but the price shouldn't raise eyebrows for 
people used to buying PC software... ultimately the question will be how 
many soft dollars are you prepared to spend to save a hard dollar?


You can download it from
http://www.smfreports.com

Andrew Rowley

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Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Yes, it is a strange restriction.

My question came from my try to build a customization tool for our product
that uses SYDEFS, instead of parmlib. I'll have to cut the dsname into
pieces. The idea was to point to a parmlib of load library by do the
customization outside the product.

Itschak

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 I think the logic was to prevent JCL errors when symbols were expanded.
 Whether or not that is correct, it is a very frustrating limitation.

 I agree.
 Symbols in PROCs and INCLIBs do not suffer from that limitation.
 If you get a JCL error, recode.

 The last proc/INCL I worked with was a special include for a PROC that was
 used in 34 countries, but had different parameters based on the volume of
 sales.

 It was:

 // SET SPACE=(CYL,(500,100)) -- for example

 And in the PROC:

 //DD1 DD  SPACE=SPACE, ... rest of DD statement

 The value was longer than the variable name, but it worked.

 If you had a JCL error (which I don't believe happened), you massaged the
 PROC to 'fix' it.

 IIRC, JES2 didn't kill your job, if it got 'too long', but it's been a
 while.

 So, I don't understand the SYMDEF restriction!

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Antwort: Re: Group Limit and Weights

2009-02-26 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Al and Tom,
thanks for your explanations. That would confirm our observations. I've 
collected RMF PM performance data the last weeks in a 2min interval, so 
I'm going to verify this with some diagrams.
 
Werner Kuehnel


IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU schrieb am 26.02.2009 
18:07:02:

 The capacity of the group is distributed to the LPARs in the group based 
on
 the normalized weights of the LPARs in that group. 
 
 When the group limit is exceeded L1 would be 40 MSUs, (80% or 50) and L2
 would get 10 MSUs. If L1 does not require 40, then the excess can be 
used by
 L2 (just like without group limits). If L1 is not running at all then L2 
can
 have all 50 MSUs of the group. 
 
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