Re: Run Netview on a cheap LPAR
Walter, You may get various technical answers but, technical answers aside, you must be very careful to adhere to the zNALC licensing terms. In this particular case, if all three of your LPARs are zNALC qualified (and if properly so), then it will likely not matter how you run Tivoli NetView. However, if you are trying to run Tivoli NetView in one zNALC LPAR, and then using NetView to support non-zNALC LPAR(s), you could very well be violating the zNALC license terms. zNALC LPARs must only be used for qualifying workloads. Please check with IBM on this first, particularly if you are running both zNALC and non-zNALC LPARs on your machine. If you run afoul of the zNALC licensing terms then you could find yourself very quickly having to pay full z/OS and NetView license charges retroactively, plus interest and penalties. And that would be very, very bad. So before you add workload(s) to a zNALC LPAR make sure you get explicit clearance from IBM, using the one and only procedure described in the zNALC announcement letter, OK? - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SAP, mainframes, and multinationals
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:17:45 +, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com wrote: For those of you who read German readily, there is a new book: Siegele, Ludwig, Joseph Zepelin. Matrix der Welt. SAP und der neue globale Kapitalizmus. Frankfurt und New York: Campus-Verlag, 2009. available that describes---publicly and in very much greater detail than I have seen anywhere else---the uses that some multinationals are making of SAP, chiefly and crucially on mainframes, to integrate and optimize their operations across national boundaries. ---snip Funnily enought AGCO Corporation (http://www.agcocorp.com/) started their SAP project about the same time they moved their European HQ from the UK to a European Principal Company (EPC) based in Switzerland, explicitly for tax purposes. EPC's are common amongst multinationals such as General Motors, Deere Co. etc.. That their CEO is a German probably has nothing to do with it. Dave the Lurker -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: One less mainframe shop
And then there's this: http://www.esj.com/articles/2009/03/31/Big-Iron-Bucks-Trend.aspx There's a really interesting experiment going on here. A few shops every so often depart the mainframe, a few shops acquire them for the first time (including to run z/OS -- I personally did some work in two such cases over the past two months) regularly, and an awful lot of shops growing their MIPS and, as the author cites, doubling down. (Though MIPS growth does not linearly contribute to IT headcount. It's very sub-linear due to profound mainframe economies of scale.) That statistic cited in the above article (and not from IBM) is just amazing to me: more (new, incremental) MIPS forecast to be sold in 2009 than were *installed* in 2000. Wow. So this is a marketplace contest of sorts to see who's got the most efficiency (on a quality-adjusted basis) in their IT service delivery. There are so many very savvy IT organizations betting heavily that the modern mainframe is a critical element in peak IT service delivery efficiency. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Run Netview on a cheap LPAR
From: Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu if all three of your LPARs are zNALC qualified (and if properly so), then it will likely not matter how you run Tivoli NetView. all 3 LPARs are zNALC qualified, they are identical as far as product set is concerned. So before you add workload(s) to a zNALC LPAR make sure you get explicit clearance from IBM, using the one and only procedure described in the zNALC announcement letter, OK? I'll keep this aspect in mind, beside the technical one. Thanks for the tip. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Patti Horne/MKE/METAVANTE is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 04/03/2009 and will not return until 04/06/2009. I will respond to your message when I return. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs
What if the five IBM software designers who created the product and filed for a patent on it were the first five employees whose jobs were offshored due to IBM's using their patented software? Sigh. One can only fantasize of such things. Bill Fairchild From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs IBM withdraws software patent application on offshoring jobs Employees fearful of more layoffs at IBM work sites in U.S. ROCHESTER (KTTC-DT) -- Computer giant IBM has abruptly withdrawn a patent application for software that helps companies decide the benefits or disadvantages of moving jobs to another country. Five IBM software designers created the product and filed for a patent on it in September, 2007. But after news of the project broke on Monday, IBM quickly withdrew the patent application, calling it a mistake. IBM spokesman Steve Malkiewicz is quoted as saying the filing was an error. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER for RECOMMENDED got nothing, but....
Hi, All, Just finished re-installing Netview Access Services into a fresh (aka virgin) SMP/E CSI environment, and RECEIVEd the full HOLDDATA which contained fewer than a dozen FIXCAT entries (no ERRORs) for FMID HNVS111. Then I submitted a RECEIVE ORDER for CONTENT(RECOMMENDED). The target zone contained nothing but FMID HNVS111; no PTFs, APARs, or anything else. Strangely (to me), that job completed with: GIM69145WNO PTFS SATISFIED THE SELECTION CRITERIA FOR ORDER ORD1. ORDER ORD1 WILL BE MODIFIED AND RESENT TO THE SERVER TO OBTAIN HOLDDATA. I modified the job to RECEIVE ORDER for CONTENT(ALL), and of course that filled up the SMPPTS (don't have an overflow defined yet). But EVERY ONE of the PTFs that RECEIVEd successfully included a SOURCEID of RSU. Anyone have any idea why No PTFs satisfied the selection criteria for the first order? Oh, I'm using SMP/E 35.05 on z/OS 1.9. TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs
You are surprised that foreign people would write software that recommends to employee foreign people? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs IBM withdraws software patent application on offshoring jobs Mar 31, 2009 1:03 PM Apr 01, 2009 9:24 AM IBM is reportedly hiring 32,000 for its work sites in India and China Employees fearful of more layoffs at IBM work sites in U.S. ROCHESTER (KTTC-DT) -- Computer giant IBM has abruptly withdrawn a patent application for software that helps companies decide the benefits or disadvantages of moving jobs to another country. Five IBM software designers created the product and filed for a patent on it in September, 2007. But after news of the project broke on Monday, IBM quickly withdrew the patent application, calling it a mistake. IBM spokesman Steve Malkiewicz is quoted as saying the filing was an error. Ironically, it took the U.S. Patent Office about a year and a half to publish the application, and it did so on March 26--the very day that IBM was initiating one of its resource actions. In this case, industry observers believe IBM was eliminating four to five thousand jobs from its Global Business Services and Global Technology Services divisions, and moving them to India. The jobs outsourcing software patent application is titled METHOD AND SYSTEM FOR STRATEGIC GLOBAL RESOURCE SOURCING. Its somewhat complex abstract describes what it purports to do: Method and system for strategic global resource sourcing in one aspect incorporates concurrently a plurality of qualitative and quantitative attributes that influence performance of sourcing strategy with respect to one or more quantitative measures, quantifies an impact of said qualitative attributes using said one or more quantitative measures, and optimizes the sourcing strategy with respect to said one or more quantitative measures subject to one or more constraints. The software's five designers are all based in the Westchester County, New York, region near IBM's world headquarters in Armonk. The five listed on the patent application are Ching-Hua Chen-Ritzo of Mahopac, Daniel Patrick Connors of Pleasant Valley, Markus Ettl of Yorktown Heights, Mayank Sharma of White Plains and Karthik Sourirajan, also of White Plains. IBM Rochester was not significantly touched by the latest downsizing of Big Blue's U.S. work force, from the information at hand. However, hundreds were cut in southeastern Minnesota in the so-called resource action the company pursued in late January. As KTTC NewsCenter reported in early March, it was an eye-opener for many long-time IBMers who lost their jobs in Rochester to see job descriptions for their old positions popping up in China. And anger built up when an analysis of the terminations showed that most of them came among those who were over age 50. The wife of one former IBM Rochester employee says there is fear over future IBM layoffs here in the U.S., but it is quite a different story as the company bulks up its operations in China and India. There are TONS of new IBM jobs opening in China, she said. It's going crazy over there. The number of IBM China positions listed on Project Match has really jumped in the last three months. Five years ago, IBM had about 1,000 jobs in India. My husband just read that they have 90,000 employees there now. For years, IBM has sought to employ its work force over a world-wide platform. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
UA46066 is PE causing SMF Buffers to fill up
We just ran across this issue that caused PTF UA46066 to be PE'd. This is a PTF that is recommended if you are using logstreams for SMF, but it causes a buffer shortage if you are using MANx datasets and you have a high volume of SMF records. The 'IEE986E SMF HAS USED25% OF AVAILABLE BUFFER SPACE' messages are NOT issued, but you will get RC 28 from SMFWTM. APAR OA28499 has been opened for this problem. We hit it in z/OS 1.10 but I believe that you could run into the same problem on lower levels of this PTF. Just to let you know, Jon Jon L. Veilleux veilleu...@aetna.com (860) 636-2683 This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howard Turetzky has a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS and is no longer receiving email at this address
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:32:56 -0700, Natarajan Mohan nmo...@edfund.org wrote: :-) That sounds more like Y2K windowing solution maximum date you could specify for the out of office message Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com 4/2/2009 2:05 PM Howard Turetzky wrote: I will be out of the office starting 04/01/2009 and will not return until 12/31/2046. 2046??! Now, THAT's what I call a vacation! :-) Isn't that when the older TOD ran out prior to it's last revision/extension? The old gray matter ain't what it used to be... Art -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs
And how do you know that they are foreign people? Some of the five have what might have been foreign-sounding names before the USA became the great so-called melting pot, but that does not make them foreign people. The news item quoted gives home towns for all five of them as being in the Westchester County region of New York. What is there about the name Daniel Patrick Connors that proves he is foreign? Ah, maybe he's Irish. That's definitely foreign. Perhaps their families have lived for 100 years in Westchester County. Please explain how you know that all five of them are foreign people. And you made a spelling error in your post (to employee should have been to employ). Maybe you are foreign, too, since you are not proficient in English. I am never surprised when anyone does anything in his own interest, but your leap of logic is outrageous and ill-founded. Bill Fairchild From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs You are surprised that foreign people would write software that recommends to employee foreign people? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs
I apologize to all the members of IBM-MAIN, and especially to Tracy Adams, for the angry and vituperative tone of my previous post. I should have disagreed with Adam's post more politely and gentlemanly. Bill Fairchild -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs
On 3 Apr 2009 05:59:30 -0700, tad...@cvps.com (Adams, Tracy) wrote: You are surprised that foreign people would write software that recommends to employee foreign people? I'm not surprised that people would write software that recommends employing foreign people. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs
Yes you are right that is a very presumptuous statement... nothing personal and no offense meant for those developers of the application or anyone who doesn't have the name of Kemosobe and may have taken offense to such an outrageous ill-founded statement. (Seriously, I do apologize) As for grammar police, I hate you all. I hold no regrets that my career has been based on my technical ability not my ability to write a book that would get by a NY Times editor with no corrections. If I had seen the writing on the wall 30 years ago to learn some Spanish, Chinese or Indian dialects, I probably would have slacked in those classes as well. I do have a friend that is a Chinese translator and not only does he make twice the money I do, he gets to visit a beautiful country 10 months out of the year. So my friend Bill Fairfield, thanks for slapping me in the face to the rudeness of previous post. I wish you the best. You are obviously a person of passion for all man kind. I like that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs And how do you know that they are foreign people? Some of the five have what might have been foreign-sounding names before the USA became the great so-called melting pot, but that does not make them foreign people. The news item quoted gives home towns for all five of them as being in the Westchester County region of New York. What is there about the name Daniel Patrick Connors that proves he is foreign? Ah, maybe he's Irish. That's definitely foreign. Perhaps their families have lived for 100 years in Westchester County. Please explain how you know that all five of them are foreign people. And you made a spelling error in your post (to employee should have been to employ). Maybe you are foreign, too, since you are not proficient in English. I am never surprised when anyone does anything in his own interest, but your leap of logic is outrageous and ill-founded. Bill Fairchild From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs You are surprised that foreign people would write software that recommends to employee foreign people? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs
Big opps Mr Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs Yes you are right that is a very presumptuous statement... nothing personal and no offense meant for those developers of the application or anyone who doesn't have the name of Kemosobe and may have taken offense to such an outrageous ill-founded statement. (Seriously, I do apologize) As for grammar police, I hate you all. I hold no regrets that my career has been based on my technical ability not my ability to write a book that would get by a NY Times editor with no corrections. If I had seen the writing on the wall 30 years ago to learn some Spanish, Chinese or Indian dialects, I probably would have slacked in those classes as well. I do have a friend that is a Chinese translator and not only does he make twice the money I do, he gets to visit a beautiful country 10 months out of the year. So my friend Bill Fairfield, thanks for slapping me in the face to the rudeness of previous post. I wish you the best. You are obviously a person of passion for all man kind. I like that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs And how do you know that they are foreign people? Some of the five have what might have been foreign-sounding names before the USA became the great so-called melting pot, but that does not make them foreign people. The news item quoted gives home towns for all five of them as being in the Westchester County region of New York. What is there about the name Daniel Patrick Connors that proves he is foreign? Ah, maybe he's Irish. That's definitely foreign. Perhaps their families have lived for 100 years in Westchester County. Please explain how you know that all five of them are foreign people. And you made a spelling error in your post (to employee should have been to employ). Maybe you are foreign, too, since you are not proficient in English. I am never surprised when anyone does anything in his own interest, but your leap of logic is outrageous and ill-founded. Bill Fairchild From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs You are surprised that foreign people would write software that recommends to employee foreign people? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Tracy Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs SNIPPAGE Kemosobe SNIPPAGE And you should have seen the look on the Lone Ranger's face when he finally found out what Keomsabe really meant. [A bit of levity appeared to be needed for this post.] Regards, Steve Thompson -- Normal disclaimer applies about my opinions and those of my employer. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Withdraws Patent Application on offshoring jobs
Ed - thanks for posting this article. It is very enlightening. I think the worst thing is the last line quoted below - most of the people cut are over 50. Also, to see an ad for your job pop up in China or India - thats got to be really tough to take. I just talked to a friend of mine from IBM Milwaukee a few days ago. He's thankful that he still has a job, but worried. I would think that the people cut would have a very good case in our court system for age discrimintation. I know there is a good case for IBM expanding in China and India and other Asian countries because they are doing more and more business over there, but to cut US jobs and just move them overseas just ain't right. Eric Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com IBM Rochester was not significantly touched by the latest downsizing of Big Blue's U.S. work force, from the information at hand. However, hundreds were cut in southeastern Minnesota in the so-called resource action the company pursued in late January. As KTTC NewsCenter reported in early March, it was an eye-opener for many long-time IBMers who lost their jobs in Rochester to see job descriptions for their old positions popping up in China. And anger built up when an analysis of the terminations showed that most of them came among those who were over age 50. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
New TOD (Was:Howard Turetzky has a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS)
Arthur Gutowski wrote: Isn't that when the older TOD ran out prior to it's last revision/extension? If you read the POO, you'll see the TOD hasn't yet been extended. It is still only 64 bits wide. STCK and STCKF return this value in an 8-byte area. STCKE can be used to retrieve a 16-byte (128-bit) value that contains x'00' as the first byte and the 8-byte TOD beginning at offset +1 into the 16-byte return area. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
annoying ISPF behaviour
In ISPF settings I have all of the options unticked but occasionaly the tab to point and shoot field becomes selected automagically which is very annoying. Anyone come across this before and know why it happens. This is z/OS 1.7. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files
Assuming 7-Zip will treat an ISO file like an archive, you should be able to right-click on the ISO file and choose Extract All. Make sure you do it to a subdirectory, and not to, say, your desktop. --- Kevin McKenzie External Phone: 845-435-8282, Tie-line: 8-295-8282 z/OS BCP SVT, Dept FXKA, Bldg 706/2D38 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 04/03/2009 01:41 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:58:46 -0500, Diehl, Gary wrote: The free 7-Zip open source program will do the same, for free. I use it quite a bit, and was pleasantly surprised the other day when I right-clicked on an ISO, and it opened it right up like it was a ZIP file. I used a similar program. It was fine as far as it goes. How far does it go? I got to that point, viewing a directory of the files in the image. I double clicked on a .html entry in the directory and it launched a browser and displayed the page. So far, so good. Then I clicked on an anchor in the displayed page. I got File not found. There's no substitute for mounting. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: annoying ISPF behaviour
Jim, I've had this same behavior in the last 3 contract jobs I've been at. It is very annoying. This has happened on z/OS 1.4, 1.7, and 1.9. I'm sorry, but I never figured it out either. Eric Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: annoying ISPF behaviour In ISPF settings I have all of the options unticked but occasionaly the tab to point and shoot field becomes selected automagically which is very annoying. Anyone come across this before and know why it happens. This is z/OS 1.7. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: annoying ISPF behaviour
Jim, Tab to PAS is a global ISPF option - so if one application turns it on/off under the covers and then it will affect all ISPF screens active at the same time - and of course if that application terminates without reverting to the previous setting then you are left with the setting asis. You can straddle the application invocation REXX with something like : address ISPEXEC SELECT PGM(ISPOPT) PARM(PSTAB(ON)) blah blah address ISPEXEC SELECT PGM(ISPOPT) PARM(PSTAB(OFF)) Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 rsc...@rs.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: 03 April 2009 16:25 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: annoying ISPF behaviour In ISPF settings I have all of the options unticked but occasionaly the tab to point and shoot field becomes selected automagically which is very annoying. Anyone come across this before and know why it happens. This is z/OS 1.7. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New TOD (Was:Howard Turetzky has a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS)
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:54:48 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Arthur Gutowski wrote: Isn't that when the older TOD ran out prior to it's last revision/extension? If you read the POO, you'll see the TOD hasn't yet been extended. It is still only 64 bits wide. Actually, the POO says The TOD clock is a 104-bit register. You are correct, though, that STCKE is currently defined to store zeroes in the first byte. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New TOD (Was:Howard Turetzky has a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS)
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:54:48 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: If you read the POO, you'll see the TOD hasn't yet been extended. It is still only 64 bits wide. ... Ummm. ... From: z/Architecture Principles of Operation SA22-7832-07 Eighth Edition (February, 2009) ? The extended-TOD-clock facility includes (1)an extension of the TOD clock from 64 bits to 104 bits, allowing greater resolution; ... Granted it's extended on the right, not the left. More dismaying, STCKCONV ignores the top byte. While I don't begrudge IBM the flexibility of deferring definition of that byte's future use, until then STCKCONV should conscientiosly return an error indication for invalid TOD clock value. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Invoking Sort Dynamically - VSE/MVS
On Thursday 02 March 2009 15:35, Joseph Reichman wrote: I was wondering if anyone has any information regarding invoking IBM Sort Dynamically from a program Converting from VSE/SyncSort to z/os/DFSORT I was wondering what a 24 bit parameter list value was There are several solutions. I was involved in the conversion to MVS of over 25,000 VSE assembler programs, thousands of which invoked IBM, SYNCSORT or CA SORT. The project I remember best had over 700 VSE assembler programs which invoked SORT. The best solution we have is VSESORT, an assembler module which is very easy to use: just change LOAD SORT to LOAD VSESORT in your programs. http://gsf-soft.com/Prism-CS/RunTime.shtml Again, we have over 10 different solutions to this problem. If you are interested, contact me at this address: supp...@gsf-soft.com Our Prism Conversion System automatically converts programs in all languages, particularly assembler programs. http://gsf-soft.com/Prism-CS/LCP.shtml -- Gilbert Saint-Flour GSF Software http://gsf-soft.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
COBOL and European edit masks
We have a large application with thousands of COBOL programs many of which have edit masks UK/USA style ie with comma separators and decimal points like so - 999,999,999.99. We need to alter the picture clauses so they cause the numeric edited items to appear in European format ie with the , and . transposed like so - 999.999.999,99. Is there any way to accomplish this automagically in COBOL. We are trying not to have to find and edit every edit mask in every program which would be a very large and onerous undertaking. Any ideas very much welcomed. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and want's to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel and thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already exists. Any one know of such a beast? darth ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: annoying ISPF behaviour
It is worth pointing out that MXI 4.3 (freeware) will attempt to turn on the Tab to point-and-shoot setting when it is started as this is a desirable option for the way that MXI works. Users can disable this feature using the options displayed on the SET SCREEN panel. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 rsc...@rs.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: 03 April 2009 16:40 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: annoying ISPF behaviour Jim, Tab to PAS is a global ISPF option - so if one application turns it on/off under the covers and then it will affect all ISPF screens active at the same time - and of course if that application terminates without reverting to the previous setting then you are left with the setting asis. You can straddle the application invocation REXX with something like : address ISPEXEC SELECT PGM(ISPOPT) PARM(PSTAB(ON)) blah blah address ISPEXEC SELECT PGM(ISPOPT) PARM(PSTAB(OFF)) Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 rsc...@rs.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: 03 April 2009 16:25 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: annoying ISPF behaviour In ISPF settings I have all of the options unticked but occasionaly the tab to point and shoot field becomes selected automagically which is very annoying. Anyone come across this before and know why it happens. This is z/OS 1.7. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
I have not found a HEX sort for ISPF yet which I would love to see. However in batch I use ALTSEQ CODE=(F0B0,F1B1,F2B2,F3B3,F4B4,F5B5,F6B6,F7B7,F8B8,F9B9) SORT FIELDS=(52,8,AQ,A),SIZE=E2000 Lizette A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and want's to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel and thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already exists. Any one know of such a beast? darth -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
Darth Keller wrote:
A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and want's
to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit
macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel and
thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already exists. Any
one know of such a beast?
darth
I don't see the problem. Get into edit of the file, and issue
== sort col1 col2 {A|D}
where col1 indicates the first byte of your UCB value
and col2 indicates the last byte; who cares if they're
hex? Should work as is; ISPF will treat them as unexamined
data and sort by the content.
Kind regards,
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Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files
I agree with a previous poster... If you can get a copy of the old FREE Daemon Tools (Version 4.10), you can simply MOUNT the ISO file and use it directly. No need to use up twice the space by extracting the data. DanD - Original Message - From: Kevin Mckenzie kmcke...@us.ibm.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files Assuming 7-Zip will treat an ISO file like an archive, you should be able to right-click on the ISO file and choose Extract All. Make sure you do it to a subdirectory, and not to, say, your desktop. --- Kevin McKenzie External Phone: 845-435-8282, Tie-line: 8-295-8282 z/OS BCP SVT, Dept FXKA, Bldg 706/2D38 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 04/03/2009 01:41 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:58:46 -0500, Diehl, Gary wrote: The free 7-Zip open source program will do the same, for free. I use it quite a bit, and was pleasantly surprised the other day when I right-clicked on an ISO, and it opened it right up like it was a ZIP file. I used a similar program. It was fine as far as it goes. How far does it go? I got to that point, viewing a directory of the files in the image. I double clicked on a .html entry in the directory and it launched a browser and displayed the page. So far, so good. Then I clicked on an anchor in the displayed page. I got File not found. There's no substitute for mounting. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: annoying ISPF behaviour
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: It is worth pointing out that MXI 4.3 (freeware) will attempt to turn on the Tab to point-and-shoot setting when it is started as this is a desirable option for the way that MXI works. Users can disable this feature using the options displayed on the SET SCREEN panel. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 rsc...@rs.com Rob, when I saw your previous post, I was just about to ask whether MXI could be the culprit. I'll try and disable the option on the set screen panel. Thanks Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: COBOL and European edit masks
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:09:37 +0100, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: We have a large application with thousands of COBOL programs many of which have edit masks UK/USA style ie with comma separators and decimal points like so - 999,999,999.99. We need to alter the picture clauses so they cause the numeric edited items to appear in European format ie with the , and . transposed like so - 999.999.999,99. Is there any way to accomplish this automagically in COBOL. We are trying not to have to find and edit every edit mask in every program which would be a very large and onerous undertaking. Any ideas very much welcomed. Jim McAlpine http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IGY3LR31/4.1.8 quote DECIMAL-POINT IS COMMA Exchanges the functions of the period and the comma in PICTURE character-strings and in numeric literals. /quote ... CONFIGURATION SECTION. DECIMAL-POINT IS COMMA. ... -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
UCBS:
13AF
ABCD
Is the order he/we want to have the sort return.
What you get is
ABCD
13AF
Big Problem.
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Subject: Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
Darth Keller wrote:
A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and
want's
to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit
macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel
and
thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already exists.
Any
one know of such a beast?
darth
I don't see the problem. Get into edit of the file, and issue
== sort col1 col2 {A|D}
where col1 indicates the first byte of your UCB value
and col2 indicates the last byte; who cares if they're
hex? Should work as is; ISPF will treat them as unexamined
data and sort by the content.
Kind regards,
-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
303-393-8716
http://www.trainersfriend.com
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Re: COBOL and European edit masks
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: COBOL and European edit masks We have a large application with thousands of COBOL programs many of which have edit masks UK/USA style ie with comma separators and decimal points like so - 999,999,999.99. We need to alter the picture clauses so they cause the numeric edited items to appear in European format ie with the , and . transposed like so - 999.999.999,99. Is there any way to accomplish this automagically in COBOL. We are trying not to have to find and edit every edit mask in every program which would be a very large and onerous undertaking. Any ideas very much welcomed. Jim, The programs still have to be changed, but the change is common for all of them. You have to add a SPECIAL-NAMES paragraph in the CONFIGURATION SECTION of the ENVIRONMENT DIVISION, like this: ENVIRONMENT DIVISION. CONFIGURATION SECTION. SPECIAL-NAMES. DECIMAL POINT IS COMMA. None of your PICTURE clauses has to change at all, this will automatically interchange all the commas and periods at compile time. Obviously a program compiled with this clause will *ONLY* produce European-style edited numbers. Your US/UK and European programs will need to be separate from each other. AFAIK there is no run-time option to do this, only compile-time. HTH Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:26:02 -0600, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com
wrote:
Darth Keller wrote:
A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and want's
to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit
macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel and
thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already exists. Any
one know of such a beast?
darth
I don't see the problem. Get into edit of the file, and issue
== sort col1 col2 {A|D}
where col1 indicates the first byte of your UCB value
and col2 indicates the last byte; who cares if they're
hex? Should work as is; ISPF will treat them as unexamined
data and sort by the content.
Kind regards,
-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
I think that the OP means that the data is in DISPLAYABLE hex such as:
0010
001A
0022
002C
and wants the characters A..F to sort after the characters 0..9
What I do in this case is:
c c'a' x'fa' col1 col2 all
c c'b' x'fb' col1 cols all
c c'c' x'fc' col1 cols all
c c'd' x'fd' col1 cols all
c c'e' x'fe' col1 cols all
c c'e' x'ff' col1 cols all
sort col1 col2
c x'fa' c'a' col1 col2 all
c x'fb' c'b' col1 col2 all
c x'fc' c'b' col1 col2 all
c x'fd' c'd' col1 col2 all
c x'fe' c'e' col1 col2 all
c x'ff' c'a' col1 col2 all
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Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
the values:
5000
500F
sort as
500F
5000
not as hex numbers.
ddk
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Darth Keller wrote:
A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and want's
to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit
macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel
and
thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already exists.
Any
one know of such a beast?
darth
I don't see the problem. Get into edit of the file, and issue
== sort col1 col2 {A|D}
where col1 indicates the first byte of your UCB value
and col2 indicates the last byte; who cares if they're
hex? Should work as is; ISPF will treat them as unexamined
data and sort by the content.
Kind regards,
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Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
Not quite Steve.
000A
000F
0001
001A
0010
The above are in sorted order as you specified. I believe the original
poster would like 0001 before 000A.
DanD
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Subject: Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
Darth Keller wrote:
A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and want's
to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit
macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel
and thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already
exists. Any one know of such a beast?
darth
I don't see the problem. Get into edit of the file, and issue
== sort col1 col2 {A|D}
where col1 indicates the first byte of your UCB value
and col2 indicates the last byte; who cares if they're
hex? Should work as is; ISPF will treat them as unexamined
data and sort by the content.
Kind regards,
-Steve Comstock
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303-393-8716
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Re: annoying ISPF behaviour
Yeah - I binned the automatic turn on of PSTAB for MXI G2 and just left a pulldown menu choice to enable/disable it - makes things a lot clearer for the user. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 rsc...@rs.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: 03 April 2009 17:30 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: annoying ISPF behaviour On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: It is worth pointing out that MXI 4.3 (freeware) will attempt to turn on the Tab to point-and-shoot setting when it is started as this is a desirable option for the way that MXI works. Users can disable this feature using the options displayed on the SET SCREEN panel. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 rsc...@rs.com Rob, when I saw your previous post, I was just about to ask whether MXI could be the culprit. I'll try and disable the option on the set screen panel. Thanks Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:30:44 -0400, Kevin Mckenzie wrote: Assuming 7-Zip will treat an ISO file like an archive, you should be able to right-click on the ISO file and choose Extract All. Make sure you do it to a subdirectory, and not to, say, your desktop. At which point the provider would better have provided .ZIP: extractors are more readily available and the archive takes less space. Or a .tar or a .tar.Z, either of which can be extracted in a stream from a suitable network client so the archive need never reside locally. (Are there streaming extractors for .ZIP?) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:12:33 -0500, Darth Keller wrote: A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and want's to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel and thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already exists. Any one know of such a beast? In a different context (CMS pipelines), I did translate entire file to ASCII sort translate back to EBCDIC Crude, but I didn't need to re-invent the wheel. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
Field, Alan C. wrote:
UCBS:
13AF
ABCD
Is the order he/we want to have the sort return.
What you get is
ABCD
13AF
Big Problem.
Well sure, if your talking Character hex; I thought you
were talking true binary values; with hex on:
01
004
000
--
02 ®
1A4
3F0
--
03 ¿ò
AC4
BD0
--
04
FF4
FF0
Now I understand what you were saying.
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Darth Keller wrote:
A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and
want's
to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit
macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel
and
thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already exists.
Any
one know of such a beast?
darth
I don't see the problem. Get into edit of the file, and issue
== sort col1 col2 {A|D}
where col1 indicates the first byte of your UCB value
and col2 indicates the last byte; who cares if they're
hex? Should work as is; ISPF will treat them as unexamined
data and sort by the content.
Kind regards,
-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
303-393-8716
http://www.trainersfriend.com
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Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
Lizette Koehler wrote on 04/03/2009 09:20:56 AM: I have not found a HEX sort for ISPF yet which I would love to see. However in batch I use ALTSEQ CODE=(F0B0,F1B1,F2B2,F3B3,F4B4,F5B5,F6B6,F7B7,F8B8,F9B9) SORT FIELDS=(52,8,AQ,A),SIZE=E2000 Liz, FYI, you don't need to use ALTSEQ and AQ to do this. You can just use DFSORT's AC (ASCII) format without ALTSEQ: SORT FIELDS=(52,8,AC,A) With AC format, the numbers sort before the letters. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, DATASORT, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
This may be more work than it worth, but have you considered converting the hex
values to decimal, sort the decimal values and then convert them back to hex.
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Not quite Steve.
000A
000F
0001
001A
0010
The above are in sorted order as you specified. I believe the original
poster would like 0001 before 000A.
DanD
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Subject: Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
Darth Keller wrote:
A co-work has a list of 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values - and want's
to sort it as hex-values. It wouldn't be too hard to code up an edit
macro to perform the function, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel
and thought I'd check to see if I'm missing something that already
exists. Any one know of such a beast?
darth
I don't see the problem. Get into edit of the file, and issue
== sort col1 col2 {A|D}
where col1 indicates the first byte of your UCB value
and col2 indicates the last byte; who cares if they're
hex? Should work as is; ISPF will treat them as unexamined
data and sort by the content.
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Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:45:04 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:30:44 -0400, Kevin Mckenzie wrote: Assuming 7-Zip will treat an ISO file like an archive, you should be able to right-click on the ISO file and choose Extract All. Make sure you do it to a subdirectory, and not to, say, your desktop. At which point the provider would better have provided .ZIP: extractors are more readily available and the archive takes less space. Or a .tar or a .tar.Z, either of which can be extracted in a stream from a suitable network client so the archive need never reside locally. (Are there streaming extractors for .ZIP?) -- gil The jar command (JAVA archive tool) will extract from stdin, which can be a network stream. The jar format is just another name for ZIP, so it should work. wget -O - http://url/file.zip | jar x -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:59:44 -0500, John McKown wrote: The jar command (JAVA archive tool) will extract from stdin, which can be a network stream. The jar format is just another name for ZIP, so it should work. wget -O - http://url/file.zip | jar x And jar works on z/OS. And, IIRC, Ported Tools includes Curl. .ZIP looks like the big winner over .ISO here. I've used jar to extract to binary; will it extract to EBCDIC? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
From: John McKown joa...@swbell.net What I do in this case is: c c'a' x'fa' col1 col2 all c c'b' x'fb' col1 cols all c c'c' x'fc' col1 cols all c c'd' x'fd' col1 cols all c c'e' x'fe' col1 cols all c c'e' x'ff' col1 cols all sort col1 col2 c x'fa' c'a' col1 col2 all c x'fb' c'b' col1 col2 all c x'fc' c'b' col1 col2 all c x'fd' c'd' col1 col2 all c x'fe' c'e' col1 col2 all c x'ff' c'a' col1 col2 all -- John Many thanks to John - this was an excellent suggestion - much more elegant than what I was thinking of when I start to think about how I could code the edit macro. After John's email, my edit macro is included below. The variables specified are the 1st column to use for the sort, the last column to be included, and whether you want it sorted ascending or descending. Example: HEXSORT 1 4 a /*REXX.EXEC(HEX SORT) */ ADDRESS ISPEXEC ISREDIT MACRO (@COL1 @COL2 @AD) IF (@COL1= ) | (@COL2 = ) | (@CAD = ) THEN DO ZEDSMSG = MISSING MARKERS ZEDLMSG = HEXSORT COL1 COL2 AD SETMSG MSG(ISRZ001) EXIT END ISREDIT C C'A' X'FA' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'B' X'FB' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'C' X'FC' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'D' X'FD' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'E' X'FE' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'F' X'FF' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'F' X'FF' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT SORT @COL1 @COL2 @AD ISREDIT C X'FA' C'A' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FB' C'B' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FC' C'B' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FD' C'D' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FE' C'E' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FF' C'F' @COL1 @COL2 ALL EXIT ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Maintaining two identical ICF Catalogs
Is the IBM 7700 tape system? If so your volcat must be in a single catalog. We have a grided 7700 and in the process of setting up GDPS(XRC) so I may be able to help if I have more details of your setup. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Mike Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 5:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Maintaining two identical ICF Catalogs All, We have two systems that need to have identical ICF Catalogs (we are implementing a tape grid and this catalog will contain tape entries). These systems are in different SYSPLEXes and we can't share DASD between them (partly because of GDPS) so a shared ICF Catalog isn't possible. Is there a way to keep two ICF Catalogs on two different systems -- identical? (a small delay for being out-of-sync is ok) Of course, integrity is critical. Mike Martin /PREThis email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. Personal emails are restricted by policy of the State Employees' Credit Union (SECU). Therefore SECU specifically disclaims any responsibility or liability for any personal information or opinions of the author expressed in this email. /P -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Gray Maddry Operations System Specialist State of North Carolina Office of Information Technology Services 919-754-6434 Office 919-398-8639 Cell 919-850-2854 Fax 919-754-6000 ITS Service Desk gray.mad...@its.nc.gov http://www.its.state.nc.us E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by authorized state officials -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
Minor correction: IF (@COL1= ) | (@COL2 = ) | (@CAD = ) THEN should be: IF (@COL1= ) | (@COL2 = ) | (@AD = ) THEN // Example: HEXSORT 1 4 a /*REXX.EXEC(HEX SORT) */ ADDRESS ISPEXEC ISREDIT MACRO (@COL1 @COL2 @AD) IF (@COL1= ) | (@COL2 = ) | (@CAD = ) THEN DO ZEDSMSG = MISSING MARKERS ZEDLMSG = HEXSORT COL1 COL2 AD SETMSG MSG(ISRZ001) EXIT END ISREDIT C C'A' X'FA' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'B' X'FB' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'C' X'FC' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'D' X'FD' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'E' X'FE' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'F' X'FF' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'F' X'FF' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT SORT @COL1 @COL2 @AD ISREDIT C X'FA' C'A' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FB' C'B' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FC' C'B' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FD' C'D' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FE' C'E' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FF' C'F' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:10:41 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:59:44 -0500, John McKown wrote: The jar command (JAVA archive tool) will extract from stdin, which can be a network stream. The jar format is just another name for ZIP, so it should work. wget -O - http://url/file.zip | jar x And jar works on z/OS. And, IIRC, Ported Tools includes Curl. .ZIP looks like the big winner over .ISO here. I've used jar to extract to binary; will it extract to EBCDIC? -- gil Not as far as I can tell. However, it might be possible to post process by doing something like: wget -O - http://url/file.zip |\ #get the file jar xv |\ #unzip and list names to stdout cut -d ':' -f 2|\ #remove prefix output sed 's/^ //' |\ #remove extra blank at the start of the filename while read i;do a2e $i;done where you have some program (or shell script) called a2e which will convert the contents of the file passed to it from ASCII to EBCDIC. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:34:36 -0500, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: wget -O - http://url/file.zip |\ #get the file jar xv |\ #unzip and list names to stdout cut -d ':' -f 2|\ #remove prefix output sed 's/^ //' |\ #remove extra blank at the start of the filename while read i;do a2e $i;done where you have some program (or shell script) called a2e which will convert the contents of the file passed to it from ASCII to EBCDIC. -- John Oh, I might also mention that if somebody wanted to, they could fairly easily do all the above by writing a JAVA program. There are classes distributed with Java which should make it easy to open a network stream as a file, unzip the network stream, and then convert the data from ASCII (ISO8859-1?) to EBCDIC (IBM-1047?) before writing it to the file. Not that I plan to do it, mind you grin. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
It depends, if all you are looking to do is sort 0-9 before A-Z, using either Lizette's way or Frank's way will work fine but there may be unexpected consequences. If your data has lower-case or national characters it makes a big difference. In EBCDIC a sorts before A, which is the sequence that you will get using AQ with the given ALTSEQ statement. If you sort using AC, A will sort before a. If you want to complicate the situation even more, using the given ALTSEQ and AQ, the sequence will be a, 1, A. Using AC the sequence will be 1, A, a. By altering the ALTSEQ statement it is easy to get 0-9 to sort before a-z in a similar way to ASCII but you are still left with the difference in how upper and lower case letters are sequenced. John Reda Syncsort, Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Yaeger Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit? Lizette Koehler wrote on 04/03/2009 09:20:56 AM: I have not found a HEX sort for ISPF yet which I would love to see. However in batch I use ALTSEQ CODE=(F0B0,F1B1,F2B2,F3B3,F4B4,F5B5,F6B6,F7B7,F8B8,F9B9) SORT FIELDS=(52,8,AQ,A),SIZE=E2000 Liz, FYI, you don't need to use ALTSEQ and AQ to do this. You can just use DFSORT's AC (ASCII) format without ALTSEQ: SORT FIELDS=(52,8,AC,A) With AC format, the numbers sort before the letters. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, DATASORT, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:33:08 -0500, Darth Keller wrote: Minor correction: IF (@COL1= ) | (@COL2 = ) | (@CAD = ) THEN should be: IF (@COL1= ) | (@COL2 = ) | (@AD = ) THEN Thanks, Darth. And a change to the above test could make them optional. If @COL1 is not specified, set it to 1, etc. I don't know how to set @COL2 to the record length, but I'll bet someone will add that bit. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Setting up NTP Time Source for STP
Mike, You have a few things incorrect, but first let me point you to the STP Implementation Guide (Mar 31, 2009 - latest version) - section 1.3 (Configuring an NTP server) The planning guide George pointed you to is also good but does not have detailed Impl steps. From your posting I am deducing that you want to use the HMC as the NTP server. If you go to page 31 of the Planning guide (HMC section) you will note Eligible Hardware Management Consoles At a minimum, management of STP-enabled servers requires HMC Application level V2.9.2 with latest MCL level or HMC Application level V2.10.1. The HMC NTP server function is only available in HMC Application level V2.10.1. So step 1 above is really you have to make sure that the HMC code is at V2.10.1 which is D73 (z10 GA1 driver). Step 2 what you want to make sure of is that you are using the second LAN port of the HMC to connect to your corporate network That is the whole idea of the isolation. One of the LANs of the HMC connect sto the SE, the second LAN is used to go through the firewall to the corporate NTP server Steps 4 and 5 I am not sure what you meant by one HMC's NTP server - these are steps from the STP panels - ETS configuratin tab and you want to point to the IP address of the HMC (which is going to be the NTP server for STP. See 1.3.3 in the Impl Guide describes this. So, step 4 use the IP address of HMC 1 and for step 5 use IP address of HMC 2 By the way you will also note that you can configure up to two NTP servers on each CEC. If your PTS and BTS has connectivity to both HMCs, you can configure the IP addresses of both HMCs on the PTS and BTS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zOS 1.9 and Netview
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:49:59 -0700, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR netsfw- ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: There is a NetView group on Yahoo Groups that has been in operation since 2000. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NetView/ The Group Email Addresses Post message: netv...@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: netview-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: netview-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com List owner: netview-ow...@yahoogroups.com As much as I hate directing anybody to Yahoo, Mark is right. This may take the NetView community to address. Opening a PMR would be another avenue. ... I try the GETCONID command I get: DWO623I A MIGRATION ID COULD NOT BE OBTAINED FOR CONSOLE JERRY CNM569I MVS CONSOLE ID RELEASED. Same thing for GETCONID,MIGRATE=NO. Obviously a migration (1-byte console id) console is not going to be allowed on 1.9, but it is not obvious why NetView thinks you want one, especially when you say MIGRATE=NO. MVSPARM MSGIFAC=SYSTEM, ... That should not be of part of this problem. That parm controls how NetView and its subsystem interface communicate. It is not involved with allocation of EMCS concoles used by operator tasks. One thing that could be happening is that there is a console named JERRY already allocated. Display the consoles on MVS and see. I would have expected a different error message in that case, but it is still worth checking. If that is the case, try specifying a CONMASK in your NetView style sheet. The sample CONMASK=b22 is actually pretty good if you set a unique value for NV2I in each of your NetView procs. Pat O'Keefe From: subscribe ibm-main Jerry Bergman bergm...@co.kern.ca.us To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 7:01:16 PM Subject: zOS 1.9 and Netview Am running z/OS 1.9 in our Test LPAR. Netview 1.4 starts fine but when I try the GETCONID command I get: DWO623I A MIGRATION ID COULD NOT BE OBTAINED FOR CONSOLE JERRY CNM569I MVS CONSOLE ID RELEASED. Same thing for GETCONID,MIGRATE=NO. Our MVSPARM in DSIDMNK is: MVSPARM MSGIFAC=SYSTEM,DEFAUTH=MASTER,CMDWTOR=YES,MIGRATE=NO. Any ideas on how to proceed? Thanks, Jerry Bergman Systems Programmer County of Kern bergm...@co.kern.ca.us -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CA and CI splits
In a extended VSAM file using SMS, will the presence of 35K CI splits and 5K ca splits affect performance? This dataset has only one stripe. I know that in the old days of real 3390's this might have been a factor, but how about today where real 3390's are not used? John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
Jeez - 2 errors in 30 lines - not so good. The macro I sent out earlier has another 'minor' correction to be made: ISREDIT C X'FC' C'B' @COL1 @COL2 ALL should be ISREDIT C X'FC' C'C' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA and CI splits
In a extended VSAM file using SMS, will the presence of 35K CI splits and 5K ca splits affect performance? This dataset has only one stripe. I know that in the old days of real 3390's this might have been a factor, but how about today where real 3390's are not used? Read the RedBook VSAM De-Mystified. Splits were never really a problem, and even less of one, today. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
John Reda wrote on 04/03/2009 10:48:50 AM: It depends, if all you are looking to do is sort 0-9 before A-Z, using either Lizette's way or Frank's way will work fine but there may be unexpected consequences. ... Given that the original poster asked about 4 digit UCB's - hexidecimal values and that the Subject is Can I do a Hex Sort, I assumed we were talking about sorting '0'-'9' before 'A'-'F' which will work just fine with AC. Obviously, if we were talking about a broader set of characters, AC might not be appropriate. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, DATASORT, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
sdsf
We upgraded to zos 1.9 a couple of weeks ago. The only problem is with the operators. Appearantly the Default search order has changed? No matter what I key on the search fields I can not get the output Screen back to where it was under 1.7. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bill Carroll DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged or confidential and is protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA and CI splits
IIRC The act of splitting is relatively expensive due to all of the stuff that has to happen. But afterward, it is no issue. A reorg to consolidate CI's and open up the free space is sometimes a good idea. As usual YMMV. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA and CI splits In a extended VSAM file using SMS, will the presence of 35K CI splits and 5K ca splits affect performance? This dataset has only one stripe. I know that in the old days of real 3390's this might have been a factor, but how about today where real 3390's are not used? Read the RedBook VSAM De-Mystified. Splits were never really a problem, and even less of one, today. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: sdsf
Are you using ISFPRMxx or the SDSF Server in this environment? Lizette We upgraded to zos 1.9 a couple of weeks ago. The only problem is with the operators. Appearantly the Default search order has changed? No matter what I key on the search fields I can not get the output Screen back to where it was under 1.7. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
I've made a slight update that works for me: /*REXX.EXEC(HEX SORT) ADDRESS ISPEXEC ISREDIT MACRO (@COL1 @COL2 @AD) IF @COL1 = '' THEN @COL1 = 1 IF @COL2 = '' THEN @COL2 = '' IF @AD = '' THEN @AD = 'A' IF @COL = '?' THEN DO ZEDSMSG = ZEDLMSG = HEXSORT COL1 COL2 AD SETMSG MSG(ISRZ001) EXIT END ISREDIT C C'A' X'FA' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'B' X'FB' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'C' X'FC' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'D' X'FD' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'E' X'FE' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'F' X'FF' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C C'F' X'FF' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT SORT @COL1 @COL2 @AD ISREDIT C X'FA' C'A' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FB' C'B' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FC' C'C' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FD' C'D' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FE' C'E' @COL1 @COL2 ALL ISREDIT C X'FF' C'F' @COL1 @COL2 ALL EXIT Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: lionel.b.d...@kp.org AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We?re here to make lives better.? ?Never attribute to malice what can be caused by miscommunication.? NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Setting up NTP Time Source for STP
I have one correction to my previous posting The HMC NTP server function is only available in HMC Application level V2.10.1. This is D76 (z10 GA2) level driver and not D73 (GA1) as I had posted before. Sorry for the confusion. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA and CI splits
A reorg to consolidate CI's and open up the free space is sometimes a good idea. As usual YMMV. Usually, it ends up that the first thing that happens, is the file splits up, again. Again, read the RedBook. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Documentation Delivered as ISO files
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:34:36 -0500, John McKown wrote: The jar command (JAVA archive tool) will extract from stdin, which can be a network stream. The jar format is just another name for ZIP, so it should work. I've used jar to extract to binary; will it extract to EBCDIC? Not as far as I can tell. However, it might be possible to post process by doing something like: wget -O - http://url/file.zip |\ #get the file jar xv |\ #unzip and list names to stdout cut -d ':' -f 2|\ #remove prefix output sed 's/^ //' |\ #remove extra blank at the start of the filename while read i;do a2e $i;done (Doesn't that work better without the backslashes?) Ah, but now you're no longer streaming; you've resigned yourself to unpacking the entire archive to a temporary hierarchy. Better, then, to download the .ZIP and use unzip -aa, which unzips text files to EBCDIC. (If this were ASSEMBLER-LIST, we'd be discussing whether XR, SR, or SLR is the best way to clear a register.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: sdsf
Bill, To achieve the same result as old (z/OS 1.7), you could set a filter to sort on required criteria. Usually filters slow down the response time. Example: On SDSF command line ð type “SORT ?” ð Then set your filter criteria for “Major Column” to “End-Date” and “Order” to “A”, “Minor Column” to “End-Time” and “Order” to “A” The alternate for you is to apply the following UA45773 UA46088 That would give you the missing position numbers on the spool files. HTH Natarajan Carroll, William carro...@grangeinsurance.com 4/3/2009 12:17 PM We upgraded to zos 1.9 a couple of weeks ago. The only problem is with the operators. Appearantly the Default search order has changed? No matter what I key on the search fields I can not get the output Screen back to where it was under 1.7. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bill Carroll DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this message may be privileged or confidential and is protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.eduwith the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY The information contained in this communication, including but not limited to any accompanying document(s) and/or attachment(s), is privileged and confidential and is intended solely for the above-named individual(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that any distribution, copying, disclosure, and/or use of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of the communication, whether in electronic or hard copy format, and immediately contact the Security Office at EDFUND at (916) 526-7539 or securityoff...@edfund.org. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:54:08 -0600, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: ... Big Problem. Well sure, if your talking Character hex; ... Whew! Glad you got that straightened out. I was afraid we were going have to find a class that could explain characters sets, hexidecimal numbers, etc. to you. :-) Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New TOD (Was:Howard Turetzky has a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS)
Tom Marchant wrote: Actually, the POO says The TOD clock is a 104-bit register. You are correct, though, that STCKE is currently defined to store zeroes in the first byte. Of course, you're right. I was concentrating on the fact that the TOD had *not* been extended on the left to deal with the issue Art was alluding to (wrapping back to zero in the future). I should have double-checked the actual current TOD width. :-[ -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howard Turetzky has a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS and is no longer receiving email at this address
clock of x'.' gives September 2042. forget the day of month. richard IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 04/03/2009 09:14:56 AM: On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:32:56 -0700, Natarajan Mohan nmo...@edfund.org wrote: :-) That sounds more like Y2K windowing solution maximum date you could specify for the out of office message Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com 4/2/2009 2:05 PM Howard Turetzky wrote: I will be out of the office starting 04/01/2009 and will not return until 12/31/2046. 2046??! Now, THAT's what I call a vacation! :-) Isn't that when the older TOD ran out prior to it's last revision/extension? The old gray matter ain't what it used to be... Art -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and is intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or unauthorized use of this information, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: secure file transfer FROM z/OS
Are you interested in more information on z/OS SSH SFTP ? We plan on offering a free webinar on Ported Tools OpenSSH and SFTP. Please drop me an email if you are interested and I'll add you to announcement list when it is available. Hello Kirk, I'll be interested in receiving more information on the webinar once its scheduled. Thanks Jay Ableidinger Sr Security Analyst FirstBank Data Corp jay.ableidin...@efirstbank.com 303-235-1408 Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com 3/31/2009 9:24 AM Jim, The two primary non-proprietary protocols and IBM products are: - FTPS (TLS). This is supported by z/OS Communications Server. - SSH SFTP. This is supported by z/OS Ported Tools - OpenSSH. FTPS pros - Full dataset support by z/OS CS Generally, better native z/OS features than Ported Tools SSH FTPS cons - Uses multiple sockets which can be tricky wrt firewalls, NAT routers, etc Requires compatible FTPS server SFTP pros - Single socket connection, much more firewall friendly SSH/SFTP tends to be more widely available on partner *nix systems than FTPS SFTP cons - Ported Tools version of OpenSSH doesn't support MVS datasets, SMF, etc. Other options - - We offer a free extension to Ported Tools OpenSSH that adds MVS dataset support and SMF logging to SFTP. - We also offer a free proxy tool that can be used to tunnel regular FTP over an SSH connection. - SSH Communications offers their own completely separate SSH/SFP product (Tectia). Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com ( http://dovetail.com/ ) PS Are you interested in more information on z/OS SSH SFTP ? We plan on offering a free webinar on Ported Tools OpenSSH and SFTP. Please drop me an email if you are interested and I'll add you to announcement list when it is available. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.comwrote: What protocols are available to enable secure file transfer with z/OS being the client. I've RTFM but not found a great deal and the archives are not helping me very much. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: secure file transfer FROM z/OS
Sorry for responding to the list! My bad Jay Ableidinger jay.ableidin...@efirstbank.com 4/3/2009 4:48 PM Are you interested in more information on z/OS SSH SFTP ? We plan on offering a free webinar on Ported Tools OpenSSH and SFTP. Please drop me an email if you are interested and I'll add you to announcement list when it is available. Hello Kirk, I'll be interested in receiving more information on the webinar once its scheduled. Thanks Jay Ableidinger Sr Security Analyst FirstBank Data Corp jay.ableidin...@efirstbank.com 303-235-1408 Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com 3/31/2009 9:24 AM Jim, The two primary non-proprietary protocols and IBM products are: - FTPS (TLS). This is supported by z/OS Communications Server. - SSH SFTP. This is supported by z/OS Ported Tools - OpenSSH. FTPS pros - Full dataset support by z/OS CS Generally, better native z/OS features than Ported Tools SSH FTPS cons - Uses multiple sockets which can be tricky wrt firewalls, NAT routers, etc Requires compatible FTPS server SFTP pros - Single socket connection, much more firewall friendly SSH/SFTP tends to be more widely available on partner *nix systems than FTPS SFTP cons - Ported Tools version of OpenSSH doesn't support MVS datasets, SMF, etc. Other options - - We offer a free extension to Ported Tools OpenSSH that adds MVS dataset support and SMF logging to SFTP. - We also offer a free proxy tool that can be used to tunnel regular FTP over an SSH connection. - SSH Communications offers their own completely separate SSH/SFP product (Tectia). Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com ( http://dovetail.com/ ) ( http://dovetail.com/ ) PS Are you interested in more information on z/OS SSH SFTP ? We plan on offering a free webinar on Ported Tools OpenSSH and SFTP. Please drop me an email if you are interested and I'll add you to announcement list when it is available. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.comwrote: What protocols are available to enable secure file transfer with z/OS being the client. I've RTFM but not found a great deal and the archives are not helping me very much. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: One less mainframe shop
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: snip So this is a marketplace contest of sorts to see who's got the most efficiency (on a quality-adjusted basis) in their IT service delivery. There are so many very savvy IT organizations betting heavily that the modern mainframe is a critical element in peak IT service delivery efficiency. And many that aren't. What causes this gap? That's the Holy Grail. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Howard Turetzky has a NEW EMAIL ADDRESS and is no longer receiving email at this address
clock of x'.' gives September 2042. forget the day of month. From MXG NEWSLETTER NUMBER THIRTEEN JAN 20, 1989 at Barry's MXG site (www.mxg.com): o. An important date. A date for your grandchildren. At 23:53:48 on Sep 17, 2042, the IBM 8-byte hardware clock will fill and reset to Jan 1, 1900. Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Rexx
I need to learn REXX and fast. Does anyone know a good REXX for dummies book? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:02 PM, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote: I need to learn REXX and fast. Does anyone know a good REXX for dummies book? The Rexx Language by Michael Cowlishaw. The IBM Rexx User's Guides are good, too -- the one I remember (from 25 years ago, but why would it have been redone?) was three-pass: with each pass, you'd go deeper into the language, but with the stuff from the previous pass(s) *right there* where you could find it easily. Great stuff. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
http://www.amazon.com/REXX-Language-Practical-Approach-Programing/dp/0137806515 Good book. Thanks John Eatherly -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of gsg Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 8:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Rexx I need to learn REXX and fast. Does anyone know a good REXX for dummies book? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
See the z/VM: REXX/VM User's Guide, SC24-6114 at http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zvm.v53.hcpa0/hcsf8b22148.htm By far the best I've ever used. Mark Wheeler http://www.linkedin.com/in/marklwheeler Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:02:23 -0500 From: gsg_...@yahoo.com Subject: Rexx To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu I need to learn REXX and fast. Does anyone know a good REXX for dummies book? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA and CI splits
CI and CA splits are no longer an issue from a performance perspective. Yes, there is some degradation during the split, but with today's technology of DASD, the hit cannot be truly measured. What you want to understand is not the individual splits, but the frequency of the splits. Michael Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA and CI splits In a extended VSAM file using SMS, will the presence of 35K CI splits and 5K ca splits affect performance? This dataset has only one stripe. I know that in the old days of real 3390's this might have been a factor, but how about today where real 3390's are not used? Read the RedBook VSAM De-Mystified. Splits were never really a problem, and even less of one, today. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
If you know CLIST or BASIC language you are fairly well on your way with REXX. The only thing that every through me with the language was the use of STEM vars. But I have that mostly under control. Like any language you need to learn the syntax and what it can and cannot do. Start by writing code. Use some of the example code that is out there in various websites. Then ask the TSO-REXX group for guidance. We are very friendly over there. TSO REXX Discussion List at Marist College. For TSO-REXX subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO TSO-REXX Also check our various college websites with REXX coursed. One I like is http://www.malone.edu/erodd/rexxcls.htm Also the REXX language Group http://www.rexxla.org/index.html What is the are you will be using REXX for? Automation, tools ?? By knowing what you are needing to do will help us help you. Most of the REXX books are either more like reference manuals or very technical. I have not really found a good basic book. The IBM REXX REFERENCE guide and REXX USER'S GUIDE are a good starting place if you already know programming and a language like CLIST. Lizette I need to learn REXX and fast. Does anyone know a good REXX for dummies book? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
Assuming it's not your first, second, or third language, grab the reference manual, find some examples in the Ssamplibs, remember STEMs are only somewhat like arrays :), that blanks as part of variable values count and the ' Quote is not the same a double quote. Probably a few other idiosyncrasyies and you're set. Very powerful language, oh and another thing, ACS routines and other rexx-like things ARE NOT REXX. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of gsg Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Rexx I need to learn REXX and fast. Does anyone know a good REXX for dummies book? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
I was looking for this very manual last week when I had some training to do, but to no avail. Anyone know where I might find a copy? i -- Original Message -- Received: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:25:02 PM COT From: P S zosw...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Rexx the one I remember (from 25 years ago, but why would it have been redone?) was three-pass: with each pass, you'd go deeper into the language, but with the stuff from the previous pass(s) *right there* where you could find it easily. Great stuff. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
Like any language you need to learn the syntax ... Speaking of syntax ... What is the are you will be using REXX for? JK ;-) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:53:40 -0400 From: stars...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Rexx To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu If you know CLIST or BASIC language you are fairly well on your way with REXX. The only thing that every through me with the language was the use of STEM vars. But I have that mostly under control. Like any language you need to learn the syntax and what it can and cannot do. Start by writing code. Use some of the example code that is out there in various websites. Then ask the TSO-REXX group for guidance. We are very friendly over there. TSO REXX Discussion List at Marist College. For TSO-REXX subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO TSO-REXX Also check our various college websites with REXX coursed. One I like is http://www.malone.edu/erodd/rexxcls.htm Also the REXX language Group http://www.rexxla.org/index.html What is the are you will be using REXX for? Automation, tools ?? By knowing what you are needing to do will help us help you. Most of the REXX books are either more like reference manuals or very technical. I have not really found a good basic book. The IBM REXX REFERENCE guide and REXX USER'S GUIDE are a good starting place if you already know programming and a language like CLIST. Lizette _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile1_042009 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
More specifically than my previous reply, http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcsb3b10.pdf Mark Wheeler Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:25:32 -0500 From: ianworthing...@usa.net Subject: Re: Rexx To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu I was looking for this very manual last week when I had some training to do, but to no avail. Anyone know where I might find a copy? i -- Original Message -- Received: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:25:02 PM COT From: P S zosw...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Rexx the one I remember (from 25 years ago, but why would it have been redone?) was three-pass: with each pass, you'd go deeper into the language, but with the stuff from the previous pass(s) *right there* where you could find it easily. Great stuff. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Out of Office until Monday, April 13
I will be out of the office starting 04/03/2009 and will not return until 04/13/2009. I will be on PTO until Monday, April 13. I will be available by cell at (704) 737-8223. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA and CI splits
At 20:52 -0500 on 04/03/2009, Spencer, Mike wrote about Re: CA and CI splits: CI and CA splits are no longer an issue from a performance perspective. Yes, there is some degradation during the split, but with today's technology of DASD, the hit cannot be truly measured. What you want to understand is not the individual splits, but the frequency of the splits. Michael Spencer BMC Software There is a performance hit (to some extent) to read a file with splits as opposed to reading the same data from the file if it had been recreated to eliminate the splits due to you needing to read more (and shorter) blocks. OTOH: Once the CIs with update activity have been split, there will be free space for added records (and existent records whose size is increased thus requiring a CI split since the new block is over the CI size). You need to look at not only how often there is a split but where the splits are occurring. If they are evenly spread over the file you can live with it (or reorganize the file once and define free space at define time so that there will be a lessened need to additional splits). The problem occurs when the splits are concentrated in a narrow area of the file when you keep getting split after split due to record insertions into that area. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
Awesome! I didn't even know this list existed. Thanks very much, Lizette. All the best, Scott T. Harder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu]on Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Rexx If you know CLIST or BASIC language you are fairly well on your way with REXX. The only thing that every through me with the language was the use of STEM vars. But I have that mostly under control. Like any language you need to learn the syntax and what it can and cannot do. Start by writing code. Use some of the example code that is out there in various websites. Then ask the TSO-REXX group for guidance. We are very friendly over there. TSO REXX Discussion List at Marist College. For TSO-REXX subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO TSO-REXX Also check our various college websites with REXX coursed. One I like is http://www.malone.edu/erodd/rexxcls.htm Also the REXX language Group http://www.rexxla.org/index.html What is the are you will be using REXX for? Automation, tools ?? By knowing what you are needing to do will help us help you. Most of the REXX books are either more like reference manuals or very technical. I have not really found a good basic book. The IBM REXX REFERENCE guide and REXX USER'S GUIDE are a good starting place if you already know programming and a language like CLIST. Lizette I need to learn REXX and fast. Does anyone know a good REXX for dummies book? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rexx
I used to support a product that provided samples in both REXX and Clist. MAJOR pain. Once you go to REXX, you won't look back. Much more powerful in terms of numbers and it just seems so much more intuitive. All the best, Scott T. Harder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu]on Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Rexx Assuming it's not your first, second, or third language, grab the reference manual, find some examples in the Ssamplibs, remember STEMs are only somewhat like arrays :), that blanks as part of variable values count and the ' Quote is not the same a double quote. Probably a few other idiosyncrasyies and you're set. Very powerful language, oh and another thing, ACS routines and other rexx-like things ARE NOT REXX. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of gsg Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Rexx I need to learn REXX and fast. Does anyone know a good REXX for dummies book? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
