Re: Summer Time, state of art

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Nitz
No, stick with normal time! But yes, skip the changes. 

Nowdays you get home at the hottest part of the day and you
use more energy to cool down the house than if you got home later.
And last week it was just getting light when I went to work, but now it's
back to driving in the dark. I'll probably have to use lights in the morning
all year long!

This is why Arizona stays on ST year round. 
I thought they are on normal time all year round! I know I was very confused
when in the Glen Canyon Dam Visitor Center that showed times in Utah and
Arizona as one hour apart. Utah did have DST, Arizona did not, except in the
(Arizona) places belonging to the Navajo Reservation, which is mostly in
Utah, on DST. 

In any case, the one (IBM) application that could not handle the fallback
was OPC (now Tivoli something) up to the point where OPC got terminated in
this installation a while back.

Barbara Nitz

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Re: Check TAPE Contents

2011-03-30 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:04:18 +0300, Sergio Lima sergio...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hello,
 
We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work.
Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ?

I think it was determined that you don't have the necessary authority to use
BLP which means that all the other examples (IDCAMS, IEBPTPCH, etc) will
also not work until you get this authority. Once you have that then TAPEMAP
(which works great) or UATAPE (also on the CBT) and all the IBM utilities
will then work for you.

Sebastian.

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How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

2011-03-30 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

In the last few days we had some problems with DFHSM primary space 
management.

The question , if I can query from the DFHSM its intentions:
- when it will intend to start primary space management secondary  , etc 
etc


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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of
last resort?
2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?
3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the
System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS
consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?

1.  Always
2.  Have percom configured on the HMC to use OSa-OSC card consoles
3.  No more NIP console since a while

Bernard Coeytaux

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Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

2011-03-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
QUERY SETSYS, use either HSEND or F,DFHSM

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 Subject: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?
 
 Hi
 
 In the last few days we had some problems with DFHSM primary space
 management.
 The question , if I can query from the DFHSM its intentions:
 - when it will intend to start primary space management secondary  ,
 etc
 etc
 
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Re: zIIPs and zAAPs

2011-03-30 Thread Barbara Nitz
The biggest obstacle for privileged programs is that SRB mode is more
restrictive than task mode. Not all services are allowed in SRB mode; many
functions require a TCB. Error recovery for an SRB is nowhere near as flexible
as for TCB. Also, debugging is not as easy for SRB as for TCB. 

I can't really count the times when I had to explain srb-to-task-percolation
to some vendor scheduling srbs and not being able to debug, much less fix
their 0C4s!

There is not even
a control block equivalent of the TCB where the operating system keeps
information about an SRB while it's running!

I don't understand. Suspended SRBs all have their SSRB, and there's the
IHSA. The state of the SRB while it is actually dispatched can be seen in
the cpu status and PSA, reliable with regards to storage only in an sadump.
Or has that substantially changed while I wasn't looking?

In light of these restrictions, I suppose one could argue that more difficult
programming means less stable programs.

Exactly. And less people knowing how to figure out what went wrong or even
to imagine what might go wrong! Just look at all the discussions here on
ibmmain about this exact topic.

Best regards, Barbara Nitz

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Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

2011-03-30 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

Thank you, I see
If it says  PRIMARYSPMGMTSTART=(1700 1800), it is really 1700 ;-) ?
And the second question
If I can redirect this output to a dataset ?


On 3/30/2011 9:01 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:

QUERY SETSYS, use either HSEND or F,DFHSM


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Subject: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

Hi

In the last few days we had some problems with DFHSM primary space
management.
The question , if I can query from the DFHSM its intentions:
- when it will intend to start primary space management secondary  ,
etc
etc

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Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

2011-03-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
I'm sure there's an out dataset option. I'd need to look it up to be
sure. Try ODS('') via the HSEND option.

There's also a something DAY(Y and Ns) to control which days of the week
it runs on.

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 Subject: Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?
 
 
  Hi
 
 Thank you, I see
 If it says  PRIMARYSPMGMTSTART=(1700 1800), it is really 1700 ;-) ?
 And the second question
 If I can redirect this output to a dataset ?
 
 
 On 3/30/2011 9:01 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
  QUERY SETSYS, use either HSEND or F,DFHSM
 
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On
  Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:57 PM
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  Subject: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?
 
  Hi
 
  In the last few days we had some problems with DFHSM primary space
  management.
  The question , if I can query from the DFHSM its intentions:
  - when it will intend to start primary space management secondary
,
  etc
  etc
 
 

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Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

2011-03-30 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

Till now I find ODS for HLIST, but not for HSENDCMD

On 3/30/2011 10:06 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:

I'm sure there's an out dataset option. I'd need to look it up to be
sure. Try ODS('') via the HSEND option.

There's also a something DAY(Y and Ns) to control which days of the week
it runs on.


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Subject: Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?


  Hi

Thank you, I see
If it says  PRIMARYSPMGMTSTART=(1700 1800), it is really 1700 ;-) ?
And the second question
If I can redirect this output to a dataset ?


On 3/30/2011 9:01 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:

QUERY SETSYS, use either HSEND or F,DFHSM


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Subject: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

Hi

In the last few days we had some problems with DFHSM primary space
management.
The question , if I can query from the DFHSM its intentions:
- when it will intend to start primary space management secondary

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Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

2011-03-30 Thread Tidy, David (D)
Hi,

I don't think there is an out dataset option for QUERY. In
SYS1.SAMPLIB(ARCTOOLS) there is a queryset REXX which returns the output
to TSO via extended console processing.

We basically use a version of QUERYSET to get HSM output back to TSO,
and then we have other routines that issue any TSO command to trap the
output back to a browse or edit window (from where we can create a
dataset of course). But you could also just update QUERYSET to write to
a dataset.

Best regards,
David Tidy  
IS Technical Management/SAP-Mf  
Dow Benelux B.V.

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Sent: 30 March 2011 10:07
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

I'm sure there's an out dataset option. I'd need to look it up to be
sure. Try ODS('') via the HSEND option.

There's also a something DAY(Y and Ns) to control which days of the week
it runs on.

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:53 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?
 
 
  Hi
 
 Thank you, I see
 If it says  PRIMARYSPMGMTSTART=(1700 1800), it is really 1700 ;-) ?
 And the second question
 If I can redirect this output to a dataset ?
 
 
 On 3/30/2011 9:01 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
  QUERY SETSYS, use either HSEND or F,DFHSM
 
  -Original Message-
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On
  Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:57 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?
 
  Hi
 
  In the last few days we had some problems with DFHSM primary space
  management.
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  - when it will intend to start primary space management secondary
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  etc
 
 

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Re: Status Difference Between JES2 and SDSF

2011-03-30 Thread Ravi Gaur
It can be what you saying and I see some improvement is happening with z/OS 
1.12..

share remarks (boston)
---
z/OS 1.12 JES2 added support to place the SPOOL and Checkpoint data sets
in EAS storage (above the 64K cylinder line). It also added a new SSI to
retrieve printer status information. There were also a number of 
serviceability(RAS) changes that will be discussed.

New in this release is an SSI (83 with SSOB extension IAZSSJD) to obtain 
information on local
and remote printers. This information is available on z/OS 1.12 from any 
z/OS 1.11 MAS
member and later. Only local and remote printer are currently supported via 
the SSI (though
the IAZSSJVD data area does define additional devices). The information is 
provided via a
data gather code that was shipped in z/OS 1.11. To fully support requests 
from z/OS 1.12, you
must apply the data gatherer APARs OA31703 and OA32712 on your z/OS 1.11 
system.
These APARs are a pre-req for the JES2 toleration APAR OA28532.
The initiator subfunction of the JES property SSI was enhanced to support 
requesting
information from other members. This requires the target member to be 
running z/OS 1.12.
SYSOUT ENF processing was enhanced to support requesting ENFs for data sets 
select by
SAPI. This is useful if a SAPI application is requesting SYSOUT information 
and returning it for
later processing but still wants to track the status of the data set.

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Re: zHPF and mixed channels

2011-03-30 Thread R.S.

John,
Thank you for the explanation.
In fact my both questions can be rephrased to the following:
Is given chpid or CU port able to work in HPF and non-HPF mode 
simultaneously?


Your expectations (and mine too) are that yes.


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W dniu 2011-03-30 06:36, John Ticic pisze:

Radoslaw,

my understanding is that zHPF is negotiated between z/OS and the DSS
CU if all the channels in the path group are FEx2 or FEx4. So, if this is
the case, then I/O between that z/OS LPAR and that CU can use zHPF.

So, my take on Q1 is that the host that has FEx2/FEx4 will be able to
use zHPF and the other host will not be able to.

In Q2, the Host can negotiate a zHPF connection to one DASD and not
to the other.

These are only my expectations and I would be interested in your
findings - especially if they are different.

SMF 73 (RMF Channel stats) will give you some nice information on how
many I/Os are using transport mode.
SMF 74.5 (Rank statistics) will give you detailed zHPF information per
device (starting with z/OS 1.12) (probably Vendor DSS specific).

John


Quotation from some IBM TechDoc:

zHPF is supported on FICON Express2 (FEx2) and FICON Express4

(FEx4)

channels.  It is not supported on FICON Express channels.
I/Os executed on path groups with a mix of FICON Express and FICON
Express2 or FICON Express4 channels in the same path group will not

be

eligible to convert to zHPF. For zHPF, all the channels in the same
channel path group have to be FEx2 or FEx4. 

The above is clear in scenario with one host and one CU.
What about many-to-many scenarios?

Q1: The following scenario: two host connected to single CU, via

switch.

Same channel adapter in CU. One host is zHPF capable, the other is

not

(FICON Express 1). Will zHPF work between CU and first host?

Q2: Another scenario: zHPF-capable host connected via switch to two
different DASD boxes. First DASD is zHPF-capable, the second is not.
Both DASDs are connected to the same CHPIDs.
Will zHPF be used for communication between host and first CU?

Any clue?

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Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

2011-03-30 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

Yes , I send from USS Shell, and got back the REPLY in my TSO session 
(in another screen)

But thank you for the hint, I'm checking the ARCTOOLS

On 3/30/2011 10:25 AM, Tidy, David (D) wrote:

Hi,

I don't think there is an out dataset option for QUERY. In
SYS1.SAMPLIB(ARCTOOLS) there is a queryset REXX which returns the output
to TSO via extended console processing.

We basically use a version of QUERYSET to get HSM output back to TSO,
and then we have other routines that issue any TSO command to trap the
output back to a browse or edit window (from where we can create a
dataset of course). But you could also just update QUERYSET to write to
a dataset.

Best regards,
David Tidy  
IS Technical Management/SAP-Mf  
Dow Benelux B.V.

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Sent: 30 March 2011 10:07
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

I'm sure there's an out dataset option. I'd need to look it up to be
sure. Try ODS('') via the HSEND option.

There's also a something DAY(Y and Ns) to control which days of the week
it runs on.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:53 AM
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Subject: Re: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?


  Hi

Thank you, I see
If it says  PRIMARYSPMGMTSTART=(1700 1800), it is really 1700 ;-) ?
And the second question
If I can redirect this output to a dataset ?


On 3/30/2011 9:01 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:

QUERY SETSYS, use either HSEND or F,DFHSM


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Subject: How to find out DFHSM intentions ?

Hi

In the last few days we had some problems with DFHSM primary space
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The question , if I can query from the DFHSM its intentions:
- when it will intend to start primary space management secondary

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Re: JMS and Z/os

2011-03-30 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:08:37 -0500, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

Even if you don't have a WMQ Server running on z/OS, I believe that you can
use a Java JMS client to connect to a WMQ server (aka queue manager) on
another box.   But I'm not a WMQ expert - it could be that you need to
license a client product/feature on z/OS to enable this, so check with
your friendly IBM rep for details.

Well, actually, Webpshere MQ (formerly known as MQ-Series) on zOS only 
supports[*] binding mode. So, connecting in client/server mode to an MQ on 
another box will not work. 

Cheers,

Jantje.

[*] Actually, you can trick the MQ classes into connecting in client/server 
mode by cleverly extending some of them, but this is definitely not supported 
and may even constitute a breach of the license, it seems to me.

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Re: VOLCAT and DR

2011-03-30 Thread Jonathan Miller
Are you using an IBM VTS or a VTL.  We are using a VTL and with this it is 
setup as a manual tape library and you don't need the VOLCAT when restoring 
from the starter system. You just use your tape name and the volume and it 
will find it like a real tape.  The VTS is more complicated and when we had 
that we used real tape to recover and then setup the VTS with our own blank 
tapes put into it for new write only.  We never brought the real tapes from 
the VTS and set it up. Hope this helps.

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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Robert Birdsall
We have done 1), we have no 2), we definitely do 3) - HMC (via the web) and 
SMCS are all we use (or have, for that matter).

As a side note: we tried OSA consoles, but (at least at the time) they didn't 
handle SSL as we wanted, so we dropped them.
We run VTAM/NET as SUB=MSTR, so the requirement isn't onerous.

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:01:36 -0500, W. Kevin Kelley 
wkkel...@optonline.net wrote:

I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System
Console is actually being used by z/OS customers:

1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last
resort?

2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?

3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System
Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles
(or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?

W. Kevin Kelley  -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development



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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Tim Brown
1. last resort 

2. never

3. we have no locally attached consoles, the nip console
   is via the osa advanced facility. All our consoles
   use a tn3270 client to the IP of the OSC channel.




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Subject: Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

We have done 1), we have no 2), we definitely do 3) - HMC (via the web) and 
SMCS are all we use (or have, for that matter).

As a side note: we tried OSA consoles, but (at least at the time) they didn't 
handle SSL as we wanted, so we dropped them.
We run VTAM/NET as SUB=MSTR, so the requirement isn't onerous.

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:01:36 -0500, W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net 
wrote:

I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System 
Console is actually being used by z/OS customers:

1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of 
last resort?

2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?

3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System 
Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS 
consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?

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Re: zHPF and mixed channels

2011-03-30 Thread Martin Feeney
In order for zHPF to work, there are a series of conditions that must ALL be 
true.  The conditions include support on the host side (channel support as well 
as z/OS) and support on the CU (at the Extended Link Services level as well as 
the device [Read Features Code] level).  If *any* one of these conditions is 
not true, zHPF will not be used.  These conditions have to be true for ALL 
paths in the path group to a given device.

Thus:

Q1: The following scenario: two host connected to single CU, via 
switch. 
Same channel adapter in CU. One host is zHPF capable, the other is not 
(FICON Express 1). Will zHPF work between CU and first host?

 Yes.  The switch doesn't play into the equation.  If the first host 
(channel and z/OS) and the CU both support zHPF, the device is enabled for zHPF.

Q2: Another scenario: zHPF-capable host connected via switch to two 
different DASD boxes. First DASD is zHPF-capable, the second is not. 
Both DASDs are connected to the same CHPIDs.
Will zHPF be used for communication between host and first CU?

 Yes.  Again because the host and CU are both zHPF capable, zHPF can 
be used.  The two boxes are viewed independently or zHPF purposes.

Note: There only certain types of I/O operations are zHPF capable.  The feature 
will only be used if a zHPF capable driver (e.g. Media Manager) is being used.  
Thus, even with zHPF enabled, you may not see a lot of zHPF I/O.


Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: R.S. [mailto:r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:34 AM
Subject: zHPF and mixed channels

Quotation from some IBM TechDoc:

zHPF is supported on FICON Express2 (FEx2) and FICON Express4 (FEx4) 
channels.  It is not supported on FICON Express channels.
I/Os executed on path groups with a mix of FICON Express and FICON 
Express2 or FICON Express4 channels in the same path group will not be 
eligible to convert to zHPF. For zHPF, all the channels in the same 
channel path group have to be FEx2 or FEx4. 

The above is clear in scenario with one host and one CU.
What about many-to-many scenarios?

Q1: The following scenario: two host connected to single CU, via switch. 
Same channel adapter in CU. One host is zHPF capable, the other is not 
(FICON Express 1). Will zHPF work between CU and first host?



Q2: Another scenario: zHPF-capable host connected via switch to two 
different DASD boxes. First DASD is zHPF-capable, the second is not. 
Both DASDs are connected to the same CHPIDs.
Will zHPF be used for communication between host and first CU?

Any clue?

Regards
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Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?

2011-03-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I can figure the parameter list part out OK, but what I was asking was whether 
the LE enclave needed by a C subroutine would be made available, and how.  I'm 
*guessing* it might work by telling SORT it is COBOL, but without actual 
experimenting I don't know. The FM is quite silent about anything except 
assembler and COBOL as MODS-type external exit routines to a JCL-invoked sort.

Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of Charles Mills
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:53 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
 
 C supports normal assembler parameter lists. It's an option, PLIST(OS).
 Search the manuals for how it all works. As I recall you get a void**
 variable named _r1 that points to what you would expect R1 to point to.
 
 I would *guess* you could make it work but I am far from an expert on SORT
 exits.
 
 Charles
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf
 Of Frank Yaeger
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:21 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
 
 Peter Farley on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote
 on 03/29/2011 11:31:13 AM:
  Related question:  Can a plain C subroutine (LE-enabled, not MetalC
  or SP C) be used as a DFSORT exit routine?  If so, what would the
  fourth exit parameter be set to?  C like for COBOL, or N for none?
 
 I'm an Assembler guy - I don't use C - so I'm probably the wrong person to
 ask.
 
 However, I suppose it depends on which type of exit parameter list C can
 take
 advantage of (if either).  The Assembler exit lists are simple ones
 whereas
 the
 COBOL exit lists are more complex.  Both are described in the DFSORT book
 here:
 
 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
 bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA50/4.0?DT=2
 0100630155256
 
 You would use N in the MODS statement for a routine that uses the
 Assembler
 exit list,
 or C in the MODS statement for a routine that uses the COBOL exit list.
 
 Maybe somebody who actually uses C can give you a better answer.
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EZBTIINI dynamically loaded ?

2011-03-30 Thread Walter Marguccio
after IPLing a z/OS 1.11, HealthCheck noticed that:

C
Hello list,

after IPLing a z/OS 1.11, HealthCheck noticed that:

CSVH1001E EDLPA changed by 7725056 bytes.
This exceeds the limit.  

 Looking at the LPA modules and where they are loaded to, I spotted EZBTIINI
as being dynamically loaded, with a size of roughly 6A3000.

D PROG,LPA,MODNAME=EZBTIINI confirmed that the LMOD has been 
(D)ynamically loaded (from TCP/IP,  I presume) and (P)age fixed.

I have two questions to the list:

1) have you get the same HealthCheck exception on your z/OS 1.11 ?

2) is this a WAD on Comm. Server IP at z/OS 1.11 level ? I RTFM
but found nothing.

TIA

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z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
Munich - Germany


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Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?

2011-03-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
SORT provides a rich control card language for record selection and rejection 
and other data processing operations that I don't have to program.  Having 
the capabilities of that language between the E15 and E35 exits allows me to 
take advantage of those rich capabilities without having to program them 
myself.  As it stands, I have to perform a useless SORT operation in order to 
use both exits, and be careful in specifying the SORT key that I don't disturb 
the original order of the records in so doing.
 
BTW, MODS-type E15 and E35 exits for a JCL-invoked SORT do NOT need to do their 
own I/O.  SORT passes the records it reads from SORTIN to the E15 exit to 
manipulate and the sorted or merged records to the E35 exit to manipulate.  
This lets me take advantage of SORT's superior (i.e., faster) I/O facilities.  
Both exits use the REPLACE record function to return the manipulated records 
to SORT.

In my particular case the exits allow me to decode RECFM=VB records stored on 
disk in an application-specific scheme on the way in through the E15 exit, 
yielding a fixed-length record easily processed with SORT capabilities, and to 
re-code processed records using that application-specific scheme on the way out 
in the E35 exit.  No COBOL I/O involved.

Peter

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 Subject: Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
 
 As I think about this -- am I missing something?
 
 I don't know much about the z sort programs but does a COPY function do
 what I would guess it does -- copy from the input to the output?
 
 Now you propose doing your own input and output? While you're at it, why
 not just tie one to the other -- could it be much more work than writing
 the exits themselves? -- and skip the sort program altogether?
 
 Or does SORT have some data processing options that you are going to use
 to massage the data during the copy?
 
 Charles
 
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 Subject: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?
 
 I have a fairly simple application requirement to be able to use BOTH an
 E15 and an E35 exit in an OPTION COPY execution of SORT, but this is
 specifically disallowed (generates RC=16 message ICE161A from DFSORT and
 WER102A from SYNCSORT).
 
 If I use a MERGE FIELDS=(p,l,f,A) on a known ascending field (and the
 EQUALS option just for insurance that the record order is not disturbed)
 and use SORTIN01 for the input instead of SORTIN, it works just fine
 with both exits in COBOL.
 
 Can Mr. Yeager or some other SORT knowledgeable soul explain to me why
 this simple and straightforward use of SORT exits in a COPY operation is
 specifically forbidden?  It simply makes no sense to me whatsoever.
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Re: Restoring DFSMShsm migrated data set without active DFHSM?

2011-03-30 Thread Joel C. Ewing

On 03/29/2011 10:27 PM, Ravi Gaur wrote:

I have no idea why you got this requirement anyway it's a dfhsm recovery
scenario and look like needed help from ibm.you might be needed to enable
patches etc which are recommended by IBM...Like below manual does have some
dfhsm recovery scenario..

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r9/index.jsp?
topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.idas200/hr1024.htm

On the other hand question goes did you try with the recover option from
backup since it's a ml2 there should be a backup copy created as well and
if so look in the above manual there's a way to recover dataset from the
dfdss backup...interesting question nevertheless.



This assumption about auto backups being a pre-requisite for ML2 
residency seems to be a very common mis-perception about HSM.  A backup 
copy is a pre-requisite if and ONLY IF a data set belongs to a MGMTCLAS 
that requires auto backup.  If the MGMTCLAS does not require 
auto-backup, it will happily migrate to ML2 with no backup in existence.


If you are in an environment with many, independent, potentially naive 
users who never think of backing up anything, it might make sense to 
have most datasets with a MGMTCLAS that requires HSM auto-backup.


If you are in a complex business environment with many interrelated 
application areas and complicated relationships among many datasets, and 
applications that run throughout the 24-hour day, an HSM asynchronous 
auto-backup at an unpredicable point in the application cycles is almost 
worthless.  We have always fit more into the latter, and only have HSM 
autobackup on a small percentage of datasets, mostly application 
development libraries and some TSO user data sets, which generally would 
not be in-flight during the several night hours HSM might be doing 
auto-backup.

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JES2 USE_XCFGRPNM parameter

2011-03-30 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi,

APAR OA28179 introduced the parameter USE_XCFGRPNM.

Does anyone know how to specify this parameter?

I can’t seem to find it in the z/OS 1.11 or z/OS 1.12 documentation.

TIA

Gadi



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Re: JES2 USE_XCFGRPNM parameter

2011-03-30 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Gadi, the apar references the changes that are to be made in the to the Jes2
Init and Tuning Guide: 

The following manuals/publications are affected by this apar:

4.z/OS V1R11.0 JES2 Initialization and Tuning Guide SA22-7532-09

There will be no hardcopy updates to future releases since the
external will not be available in the next release.


 Chapter: JES2 Initialization Statement Descriptions
 Sub-heading: Parameter Description for MASDEF

 USE_XCFGRPNM=YES|NO
   Specifies whether (Yes) or not (No) a JES2 MAS member uses
   the XCFGRPNM to join the XCF group SYSJ2$XD.

 Note: The default|NO  uses the node name to join the XCF group
   SYSJ2$XD.  Future releases will use XCFGRPNM.

So this is specified in your JES2PARM MASDEF definition. 

MA

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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Clifford McNeill
Kevin,
We normally use OSA ICC consoles but we have used the HMC console as a console 
of last resort to recover lost OSA ICC consoles.  
 Cliff
 
 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:05:23 -0500
 From: wkkel...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 
 Wow! I am overwhelmed with the response so far. THANK YOU!
 
 For those of you that I haven't heard from, PLEASE POST -- this was not a 
 casual query; decisions will be made on it.
 
 W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development
 
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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On 3/29/2011 00:01, W. Kevin Kelley wrote:
 I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System
 Console is actually being used by z/OS customers:

 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last
 resort?

 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?

 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System
 Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS 
consoles
 (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?

 
1) We have, more so with our sandbox or in D/R, but once in a blue moon in 
production.

2) We have, though I'm not certain how many times.

3) All of our images have only OSA-ICC attached consoles.  We do not use 
SMCS nor any other solution with z/OS Comm Server requirements.

I, too, wish z/OS would support the HMC's integrated 3270 interface as z/VM.  
Didn't the 4381 have an on-board coax card that could be used for attaching 
consoles?  Sigh... life was so much simpler back then... ;)

Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company

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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Field, Alan C.
1 - Not necessarily for emergencies. Use it for SAD, which could be
considered an emergency :)

2 - Not recently. We used it while setting up the OSA consoles
originally. We've not had problems with OSA consoles recently.

3 - We use it when the locally attached console isn't quite so local,
such as IPLing the sandbox from home.

Alan   

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Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 23:02 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System 
Console is actually being used by z/OS customers:

1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of
last 
resort?

2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?

3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System 
Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS
consoles 
(or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?

W. Kevin Kelley  -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development
 
 

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TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB

2011-03-30 Thread Etienne Thijsse
Hi,

I need my C program to start another program that is in the same load library. 
To discover the name of this load library, I use BLDL to get a concatenation 
number in STEPLIB or JOBLIB, and RDJFCB with DDname STEPLIB or JOBLIB 
to get the name from these lists.

This works fine in batch. Now I would like to do the same under TSO. I 
thought I could use the TSO command TSOLIB to set STEPLIB, but no, BLDL 
returns error 4, so apparently STEPLIB was not set correctly. LISTALC shows a 
new DDname called SYS00070, though...

I also tried the STEPLIB command under TSO. This time BLDL does succeed, 
returning '2' as the source, which means STEPLIB or JOBLIB. But now RDJFCB 
fails... it looks like a DDname other than STEPLIB is being used as STEPLIB: 
the 
LISTALC command shows a new DDname $TEP0001.

Does anyone know if the DCB and/or the DDname of this SYS00070 (in the 
case of TSOLIB) or $TEP0001 (in the case of the STEPLIB command) is 
available in some control block somewhere, and if so, in which one?

Thank you,

Etienne

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Re: zHPF and mixed channels

2011-03-30 Thread Mike Schwab
My guess is you could create the zHPF file from the host with the
FICON Express 2/4, but not be able to process the file from any hosts
without the FICON Express 2/4.

2011/3/30 Martin Feeney martin.fee...@emc.com:
 In order for zHPF to work, there are a series of conditions that must ALL be 
 true.  The conditions include support on the host side (channel support as 
 well as z/OS) and support on the CU (at the Extended Link Services level as 
 well as the device [Read Features Code] level).  If *any* one of these 
 conditions is not true, zHPF will not be used.  These conditions have to be 
 true for ALL paths in the path group to a given device.

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Re: zHPF and mixed channels

2011-03-30 Thread Tom Harper
Mike,

Not true. zHPF is not a file, but an alternative protocol to writing channel 
programs. The resulting data written is the same. For more information, see Ed 
Jaffe's SHARE presentation on zHPF.

Tom Harper
IMS Utilities Development Team
Neon Enterprise Software
Sugar Land, TX

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Subject: Re: zHPF and mixed channels

My guess is you could create the zHPF file from the host with the
FICON Express 2/4, but not be able to process the file from any hosts
without the FICON Express 2/4.

2011/3/30 Martin Feeney martin.fee...@emc.com:
 In order for zHPF to work, there are a series of conditions that must ALL be 
 true.  The conditions include support on the host side (channel support as 
 well as z/OS) and support on the CU (at the Extended Link Services level as 
 well as the device [Read Features Code] level).  If *any* one of these 
 conditions is not true, zHPF will not be used.  These conditions have to be 
 true for ALL paths in the path group to a given device.

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Re: EZBTIINI dynamically loaded ?

2011-03-30 Thread Chris Mason
Walter

The real question is which fine manual did you read? There are very 
many fine manuals you could have read where you would find nothing about 
EZBTIINI.

You were clever enough to appreciate that an EZB prefix related to the IP 
component of Communications Server (CS). What did your local CS IP 
specialist have to say about EZBTIINI?[1]

Anyhow, with the understanding that z/OS CS was involved - I used the 
following approach:

In the Search Text box for the Communications Server bookshelf on the 
following page:

z/OS V1R11.0 elements and features bookshelves

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/zshelves11.html

to which I assume you know how to navigate, I entered

EZBTIINI

and got all of 5 fine manual hits!

Thus I found out that EZBTIINI is a module related to the initialisation of the 
IP component of CS as indicated by the following messages:

quote

EZB6473I TCP/IP STACK FUNCTIONS INITIALIZATION COMPLETE.

Explanation: TCP/IP has been successfully initialized.

System Action: TCP/IP continues.

Operator Response: None.

System Programmer Response: None.

Module: EZBTIINI

/quote

and

quote

EZAIN11I ALL TCPIP SERVICES FOR PROC procedure name ARE AVAILABLE.

Explanation: TCP/IP has successfully initialized and is ready to process 
requests. 

procedure name is the name of the procedure used to start TCP/IP.

System Action: The TCP/IP procedure begins to process user requests.

Operator Response: No action is needed.

System Programmer Response: No action is needed.

Module: EZBTIINI

/quote

Incidentally, one of these hits showed an example of the use of the DISPLAY 
TCPIP,,STOR,MODULE= command which may interest you:

quote

Example:

11.56.08 DISPLAY TCPIP,,STOR,MODULE=ezbtiini
11.56.08 EZZ8456I TCPIP MODULE STORAGE 390
EZBTIINI LOADED AT 15BB8100 IN LOAD MODULE EZBTIINI
+ A7F40013 20C5E9C2 E3C9C9D5 C940F0F8 *X4...EZBTIINI 08
+0010 4BF0F3F7 40F2F27A F1F97AF3 F740C8C9 *.037 22.19.37 HI
+0020 D7F6F1C1 FBE0 B24000E0 A7B50004 *P61A0 ..X...
EZZ8459I DISPLAY TCPIP STOR COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY

/quote

Now, I have to admit that not all the information for which you could have 
wished may have been revealed here - and I was actually a bit surprised not 
to get an equivalent hit in the MVS bookshelf since I expected that 
EZBTIINI might show up as the initial module in the PPT table, just like 
EZBTNINI.

However, Google is your friend and I discovered - on page 2 - the following 
SHARE presentation from Alfred B Christensen - alfre...@us.ibm.com - which 
*may* explain what EZBTIINI is doing in z/OS V1R11 CS to your satisfaction:

Understanding z/OS Communications Server storage use

http://mobile.share.org/client_files/SHARE_in_Boston_2/Session_6865_handout
_403_0.pdf

Since there were 170 hits, it's conceivable that there is even greater detail 
to be gleaned by diligent research.

-

So you not only have the answer to one of your questions - I hope, if not, 
please post again or ask Alfred and post again with the answer - but you even 
know precisely how to home in on the fine manual which stands a chance 
of answering any such question you - and any still reading this who didn't 
know before - may have in the future.

-

Incidentally, if you want to know why this response just might be considered a 
tad over the top in some quarters, this is how I tend to react when faced 
with supercilious and utterly unjustified slurs on perfectly satisfactory 
products - even if I have been known occasionally not to be in perfect accord 
with the ideas of the poor lambs who struggle to describe said products.

-

Another incidentally: the poor lambs supposedly responsible for the z/OS 
Heath Checker are not necessarily infallible - as has been well documented in 
these annals.

-

[1] Your local CS IP specialist would probably use the following list for 
such 
question if she or he had any:

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 05:55:19 -0700, Walter Marguccio 
walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote:

after IPLing a z/OS 1.11, HealthCheck noticed that:

C
Hello list,

after IPLing a z/OS 1.11, HealthCheck noticed that:

CSVH1001E EDLPA changed by 7725056 bytes.
This exceeds the limit.  

 Looking at the LPA modules and where they are loaded to, I spotted EZBTIINI
as being dynamically loaded, with a size of roughly 6A3000.

D PROG,LPA,MODNAME=EZBTIINI confirmed that the LMOD has been 
(D)ynamically loaded (from TCP/IP,  I presume) and (P)age fixed.

I have two questions to the list:

1) have you get the same HealthCheck exception on your z/OS 1.11 ?

2) is this a WAD on Comm. Server IP at z/OS 1.11 level ? I RTFM
but found nothing.

TIA

Walter Marguccio

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Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB

2011-03-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:35:02 -0500 Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl
wrote:

:I need my C program to start another program that is in the same load 
library. 
:To discover the name of this load library, I use BLDL to get a concatenation 
:number in STEPLIB or JOBLIB, and RDJFCB with DDname STEPLIB or JOBLIB 
:to get the name from these lists.

:This works fine in batch. Now I would like to do the same under TSO. I 
:thought I could use the TSO command TSOLIB to set STEPLIB, but no, BLDL 
:returns error 4, so apparently STEPLIB was not set correctly. LISTALC shows a 
:new DDname called SYS00070, though...

:I also tried the STEPLIB command under TSO. This time BLDL does succeed, 
:returning '2' as the source, which means STEPLIB or JOBLIB. But now RDJFCB 
:fails... it looks like a DDname other than STEPLIB is being used as STEPLIB: 
the 
:LISTALC command shows a new DDname $TEP0001.

:Does anyone know if the DCB and/or the DDname of this SYS00070 (in the 
:case of TSOLIB) or $TEP0001 (in the case of the STEPLIB command) is 
:available in some control block somewhere, and if so, in which one?

You would find the DCB addresses in the TCBJLB field. You need to check every
TCB up from your TCB.

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Re: Check TAPE Contents

2011-03-30 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello Sebastian,
 
Thanks for your help.
Our problem from authority was solved here, now the TAPEMAP Program run ok, 
look please :
 
VOL=G01175   CART ANALYSIS PROGRAM   (T A P E M A P)  V2.3  


RELOAD   FILE PSWD   INFO BL
FORMAT   SEQ#  DATASET NAME   REQD  C-DATE  E-DATE  SOURCE  RECFM  LRECL   S

1  F1   11.084  11.084  LABELS  VB 31873  31
2SCAN   V  5

2  F2   11.084  11.084  LABELS  VB 29773  29
  (NULL)5   
3  F3   11.084  11.084  LABELS  VB 31561  31
8SCAN   V 31

4  F4   11.084  11.084  LABELS  VB 31667  31
   11SCAN   V 31

5  F5   11.084  11.084  LABELS  VB 31554  31
   14SCAN   V  2
 
Thanks again and Best Regards.
 
Sergio Lima Costa
Sao Paulo - Brazil

 
 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:36:54 -0500
 From: sebast...@welton.de
 Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 
 On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:04:18 +0300, Sergio Lima sergio...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work.
 Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ?
 
 I think it was determined that you don't have the necessary authority to use
 BLP which means that all the other examples (IDCAMS, IEBPTPCH, etc) will
 also not work until you get this authority. Once you have that then TAPEMAP
 (which works great) or UATAPE (also on the CBT) and all the IBM utilities
 will then work for you.
 
 Sebastian.
 
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Re: Check TAPE Contents

2011-03-30 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello,
 
Here is the job :
 
//PRINTJOB   (PROD),ROTINA,CLASS=S, 
//NOTIFY=SYSUID,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),MSGCLASS=T  
//S001DEF  EXEC  PGM=IDCAMS 
//STEPLIB  DDDSN=SERGIOL.TSO.LOAD,DISP=SHR  
//SYSUT1 DD DSN=,DISP=SHR,UNIT=/670,LABEL=(,BLP,EXPDT=98000),   
//  VOL=(,RETAIN,,SER=G01175)   
//SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=*   
//AMSDUMP  DDSYSOUT=*   
//SYSINDD*  
 PRINT IFILE(SYSUT1)
 
And here, the result :
 
IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES   TIME: 16:0

 PRINT IFILE(SYSUT1)
IDC3300I  ERROR OPENING 
IDC3321I ** OPEN/CLOSE/EOV ABEND EXIT TAKEN 
IDC0005I NUMBER OF RECORDS PROCESSED WAS 0  
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12  

IDC0002I IDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12  
 
Thanks,
 
Sergio
 
 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:11:24 -0700
 From: barry.a.schw...@boeing.com
 Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 
 Show your JCL and control cards and the job log.
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:04 PM
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 Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents
 
 Hello,
 
 We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work.
 Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ?
 
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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Steve Dover
1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last
resort?

2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?

3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System
Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles
(or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?

Kevin,

1. Yes
2. No OSA attached consoles now (Visara, Escon attached), but have in the 
past
3. Used to use for the Test LPAR, but stole one of the Visara Prod consoles 
for Test now.
I vote to keep this functionality.
Steve

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Re: Check TAPE Contents

2011-03-30 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello Mr. Mark Zelden,
 
First thanks very much from your help, and i must say, that We have some of 
their programs, that is very good for us, like LPROG, IPLINFO and others.
Learned a lot with this programs, very good.
Now about this question, We try do what you said, then , our job is this :
 
//IEBPTPCH JOB   (PROD),ROTINA,CLASS=S,  
//NOTIFY=SYSUID,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),MSGCLASS=T   
//*  
//MPROC PROC HP=1
//PS10 EXEC PGM=IEBPTPCH 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSUT1 DD DSN=F1,  
// DISP=(SHR,KEEP,KEEP), 
// UNIT=/670,
// LABEL=(HP,BLP,EXPDT=98000),  
// VOL=SER=G00698,   
// DCB=(RECFM=F,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80) 
//SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSIN DD DDNAME=SYSIN1 
//MPROC PEND 
//*  
//* HP=1 FOR VOL1 HDR1 HDR2 *
//* HP=3 FOR EOF1 EOF2 * 
//*  
//JS10 EXEC PROC=MPROC,HP=1  
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSIN1 DD *
PRINT MAXFLDS=1  
TITLE ITEM=('TAPE LABEL INFO',30)
RECORD FIELD=(80,1)  
LABELS DATA=YES  
/*   
 
And the result is this :
 
PRINT/PUNCH DATA SET UTILITY   
PRINT MAXFLDS=1
IEB435I MISSING COMMAND PRECEDING COL 14   
TITLE ITEM=('TAPE LABEL INFO',30)  
IEB435I MISSING COMMAND PRECEDING COL 11   
RECORD FIELD=(80,1)
IEB435I MISSING COMMAND PRECEDING COL 13   
LABELS DATA=YES
IEB435I MISSING COMMAND PRECEDING COL 12   
IEB420I SYSIN IS EMPTY 
 
Apologize for not knowing very well.
 
Sergio
 
 

 
 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:37:59 -0500
 From: m...@mzelden.com
 Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 
 If just want labels, I usually use IEBPTPCH. TAPEMAP and other
 similar utilities read the entire tape. 
 
 This JCL will also print the EOF1 / EOF2 easily. 
 
 //TAPELBL JOB (ACCT),CLASS=A,... 
 //* 
 //MPROC PROC HP=1 
 //PS10 EXEC PGM=IEBPTPCH 
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
 //SYSUT1 DD DSN=ZELDEN.TAPE, 
 // DISP=(SHR,KEEP,KEEP), 
 // UNIT=TAPE, 
 // LABEL=(HP,BLP,EXPDT=98000), 
 // VOL=SER=vv, 
 // DCB=(RECFM=F,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80) 
 //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=* 
 //SYSIN DD DDNAME=SYSIN1 
 //MPROC PEND 
 //* 
 //* HP=1 FOR VOL1 HDR1 HDR2 * 
 //* HP=3 FOR EOF1 EOF2 * 
 //* 
 //JS10 EXEC PROC=MPROC,HP=1 
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
 //SYSIN1 DD * 
 PRINT MAXFLDS=1 
 TITLE ITEM=('TAPE LABEL INFO',30) 
 RECORD FIELD=(80,1) 
 LABELS DATA=YES 
 /* 
 // 
 
 
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 On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:13:45 +, Brian Farley brian.far...@sas.com wrote:
 
 If you have SAS software on site try the tapelablel procedure.
 
 
 //jobname JOB acct,name
 /*JOBPARM FETCH
 //TLABEL EXEC SAS
 //OURTAPE DD UNIT=TAPE,DISP=OLD,VOL=SER=MVSV9
 //SYSIN DD *
  proc tapelabel ddname=ourtape;
  run;
 /*
 //
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:10 PM
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 Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents
 
 On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:04:18 +0300, Sergio Lima sergio...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work.
 Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sergio
 
 Not sure if this works or not, the date on the member is prior Y2K...
 
 //DITTO PROC LBL=BLP,VSER=XX,UNT=TAPE
 //IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
 //UIN DD DISP=OLD,
 // DSN=FILE01,
 // UNIT=(UNT),
 // VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=VSER),
 // LABEL=(FN,LBL,,EXPDT=98000),
 // DCB=(BLKSIZE=32760,RECFM=U)
 //* DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=4050)
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 // PEND
 //DITTO1 EXEC DITTO,VSER=000297,FN=01,LBL=BLP,UNT=ETAPE
 //SYSIN DD *
  PRINT INFILE(UIN) COUNT(20)
 
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Re: Check TAPE Contents

2011-03-30 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello,
 
What is SAS ? is part from the ZOS Package ?
 
Thanks,
 
Sergio
 
 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:13:45 +
 From: brian.far...@sas.com
 Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 
 If you have SAS software on site try the tapelablel procedure. 
 
 
 //jobname JOB acct,name
 /*JOBPARM FETCH
 //TLABEL EXEC SAS
 //OURTAPE DD UNIT=TAPE,DISP=OLD,VOL=SER=MVSV9
 //SYSIN DD *
 proc tapelabel ddname=ourtape;
 run;
 /*
 //
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:10 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents
 
 On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:04:18 +0300, Sergio Lima sergio...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work.
 Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Sergio
 
 Not sure if this works or not, the date on the member is prior Y2K...
 
 //DITTO PROC LBL=BLP,VSER=XX,UNT=TAPE 
 //IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS 
 //UIN DD DISP=OLD, 
 // DSN=FILE01, 
 // UNIT=(UNT), 
 // VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=VSER), 
 // LABEL=(FN,LBL,,EXPDT=98000), 
 // DCB=(BLKSIZE=32760,RECFM=U) 
 //* DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=4050) 
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
 // PEND 
 //DITTO1 EXEC DITTO,VSER=000297,FN=01,LBL=BLP,UNT=ETAPE 
 //SYSIN DD * 
 PRINT INFILE(UIN) COUNT(20) 
 
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Re: Check TAPE Contents

2011-03-30 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello,
 
Don't  work, here ths JOB :
 
//IEBPTPCH JOB   (PROD),ROTINA,CLASS=S,  
//NOTIFY=SYSUID,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),MSGCLASS=T   
//DITTO PROC LBL=BLP,VSER=G00698,UNT=/670
//IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS 
//UIN DD DISP=OLD,   
// DSN=FILE01,   
// UNIT=(UNT),  
// VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=VSER),  
// LABEL=(FN,LBL,,EXPDT=98000),
// DCB=(BLKSIZE=32760,RECFM=U)   
//* DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=4050) 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
// PEND  
//DITTO1 EXEC DITTO,VSER=000297,FN=01,LBL=BLP,UNT=ETAPE  
//SYSIN DD * 
PRINT INFILE(UIN) COUNT(20)  
 
And here, the result :
 
 STMT NO. MESSAGE   
3 IEFC001I PROCEDURE DITTO WAS EXPANDED USING INSTREAM PROCEDURE DEFINIT
6 IEF604I EXPDT SUBPARAMETER OF LABEL KEYWORD SPECIFIES ZERO DAYS VALUE 
ICH70001I SERGIOL  LAST ACCESS AT 13:37:32 ON WEDNESDAY, MARCH 30, 2011 
IEF210I IEBPTPCH IDCAMS DITTO1 UIN - UNIT FIELD SPECIFIES INCORRECT DEVICE NAME 
IEF272I IEBPTPCH IDCAMS DITTO1 - STEP WAS NOT EXECUTED. 
IEF373I STEP/IDCAMS  /START 2011089.1350
IEF032I STEP/IDCAMS  /STOP  2011089.1350
CPU: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.00 SECSRB: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.00 SEC
VIRT: 0K  SYS: 0K  EXT:0K  SYS:0K   
IEF375I  JOB/IEBPTPCH/START 2011089.1350
IEF033I  JOB/IEBPTPCH/STOP  2011089.1350
CPU: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.00 SECSRB: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.00 SEC
 
Thanks,
 
Sergio
 
 
 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:09:32 -0500
 From: ptl...@midamerican.com
 Subject: Re: Check TAPE Contents
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 
 On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:04:18 +0300, Sergio Lima 
 sergio...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 We also tried use IDCAMS here from see tape contents and don't work.
 Can you please say what can I get a sample JOB ?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Sergio
 
 Not sure if this works or not, the date on the member is prior Y2K...
 
 //DITTO PROC LBL=BLP,VSER=XX,UNT=TAPE 
 //IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS 
 //UIN DD DISP=OLD, 
 // DSN=FILE01, 
 // UNIT=(UNT), 
 // VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=VSER), 
 // LABEL=(FN,LBL,,EXPDT=98000), 
 // DCB=(BLKSIZE=32760,RECFM=U) 
 //* DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=4050) 
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
 // PEND 
 //DITTO1 EXEC DITTO,VSER=000297,FN=01,LBL=BLP,UNT=ETAPE 
 //SYSIN DD * 
 PRINT INFILE(UIN) COUNT(20) 
 
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Re: Antwort: Question About use TAPEMAP Program

2011-03-30 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello Ed,
 
Run ok with this JES command :
 
$TJOBCLASS(A),BLP=YES


Thanks for your help.
 
Sergio
 
 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:22:01 -0400
 From: efinnel...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: Antwort: Question About use TAPEMAP Program
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 
 It's setable with JES commands $T INIT(nn),BLP=YES
 
 
 In a message dated 3/28/2011 1:49:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 t...@harminc.net writes:
 
 You need to look at your jesparms and be sure your job can use BLP
 
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Re: Antwort: Question About use TAPEMAP Program

2011-03-30 Thread Sergio Lima
Hello Rick, and all others.
 
Thanks very much from the help.
 
Sergio
 
 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:20:59 -0600
 From: rfocht...@ync.net
 Subject: Re: Antwort: Question About use TAPEMAP Program
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 ---snip
 
 Hello Mr. Werner,
  
 I tried run the JOB, but when the JOB is istarted, the cartridge was eject 
 from the device.
  
 Now, the job that was submitted is this :
  
 //TAPEMAP JOB (PROD),ROTINA,CLASS=A, 
 // NOTIFY=SYSUID,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),MSGCLASS=T 
 //S001DEF EXEC PGM=TAPEMAPN 
 //STEPLIB DD DSN=SERGIOL.TSO.LOAD,DISP=SHR 
 //SYSUT1 DD DSN=,DISP=SHR,UNIT=/670,LABEL=(,BLP,EXPDT=98000), 
 // VOL=(,RETAIN,,SER=G00698) 
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
 //AMSDUMP DD SYSOUT=* 
  
 But, happen this on the SYSLOG : 
  
  AF01 359L O-NRD-R /REMOV 
  IOS150I DEVICE 0670 NOW AVAILABLE FOR USE 
  V 670,ONLINE,UNCOND 
  IEE302I 0670 ONLINE 
  D U,,,670,2 
  IEE457I 12.59.13 UNIT STATUS 770 
  UNIT TYPE STATUS VOLSER VOLSTATE 
  0670 349S O -R /REMOV 
  0671 3490 OFFLINE /REMOV 
  $HASP100 TAPEMAP ON INTRDR ROTINA FROM TSU07265 
  SERGIOL 
  IRR010I USERID SERGIOL IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB. 
  IEF677I WARNING MESSAGE(S) FOR JOB TAPEMAP ISSUED 
  ICH70001I SERGIOL LAST ACCESS AT 12:51:55 ON MONDAY, MARCH 28, 2011 
  $HASP373 TAPEMAP STARTED - INIT 1 - CLASS A - SYS GRV1 
  IEF403I TAPEMAP - STARTED - TIME=12.59.26 
  IEC502E RK 0670,G00698,SL,TAPEMAP,S001DEF - RACK=G00698 
  *IEC501A M 0670,G00698,NL,,TAPEMAP,S001DEF, - RACK=G00698 
  
  
 I look the tape in another environment, and the DITTO show this :
  
 DITTO/ESA for VSE TB - Tape Browse At load point 
  
 Blk 1 File 1 from begin of tape 0670 3490E Col 1 Fmt CHAR 
  VOL1 G00698 DSN F1 Fprotect 2-XF FMT 36 Trk ASCII NO 
  
 Block Length 1...5...105...205...305...405...505...60
 1 80 VOL1G00698 
 2 80 HDR1F1 G0069800010001 011084011084000
 3 80 HDR2V3168031676 0REPROMG /IDCAMS P B 17241 
  Tape mark * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
 1 26724 .+.. 201103000564.009111
  
  
 Can anybody help please ?
 
 ---unsnip--
 
 You've gotten those messages because you're not allowed to use BLP in 
 the label parameter. When this is the case, BLP is converted to NL. 
 Check in two places: your security system and your JES parameters. 
 Adjustments may be needed in either or both areas.
 
 Rick
 
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Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB

2011-03-30 Thread Etienne Thijsse
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:29:25 +0200, Binyamin Dissen 
bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:35:02 -0500 Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl
wrote:

:I need my C program to start another program that is in the same load 
library.
:To discover the name of this load library, I use BLDL to get a concatenation
:number in STEPLIB or JOBLIB, and RDJFCB with DDname STEPLIB 
or JOBLIB
:to get the name from these lists.

:This works fine in batch. Now I would like to do the same under TSO. I
:thought I could use the TSO command TSOLIB to set STEPLIB, but no, BLDL
:returns error 4, so apparently STEPLIB was not set correctly. LISTALC 
shows a
:new DDname called SYS00070, though...

:I also tried the STEPLIB command under TSO. This time BLDL does succeed,
:returning '2' as the source, which means STEPLIB or JOBLIB. But now 
RDJFCB
:fails... it looks like a DDname other than STEPLIB is being used as STEPLIB: 
the
:LISTALC command shows a new DDname $TEP0001.

:Does anyone know if the DCB and/or the DDname of this SYS00070 (in the
:case of TSOLIB) or $TEP0001 (in the case of the STEPLIB command) is
:available in some control block somewhere, and if so, in which one?

You would find the DCB addresses in the TCBJLB field. You need to check 
every
TCB up from your TCB.

--

Thank you for your reply, but that does not seem to be the solution.
If I feed TCBJLB to BLDL, then it will only succeed under batch; under TSO it 
will fail, both when I use TSOLIB and STEPLIB. Before, I gave BLDL simply 0, 
and BLDL would work for both batch and under TSO with the STEPLIB 
command, so using TCBJLB seems to prevent BLDL from looking 'elsewhere'.

With 'check every TCB' I think you mean using TCBTCB to get the next TCB, 
use its TCBJLB and then its TCBTCB to get the next, etc. .
In PSATOLD, TCBTCB is zero so there is no other TCB.

Thanks,

Etienne

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Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB

2011-03-30 Thread Etienne Thijsse
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:29:25 +0200, Binyamin Dissen 
bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:35:02 -0500 Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl
wrote:

:I need my C program to start another program that is in the same load 
library.
:To discover the name of this load library, I use BLDL to get a concatenation
:number in STEPLIB or JOBLIB, and RDJFCB with DDname STEPLIB 
or JOBLIB
:to get the name from these lists.

:This works fine in batch. Now I would like to do the same under TSO. I
:thought I could use the TSO command TSOLIB to set STEPLIB, but no, BLDL
:returns error 4, so apparently STEPLIB was not set correctly. LISTALC 
shows a
:new DDname called SYS00070, though...

:I also tried the STEPLIB command under TSO. This time BLDL does succeed,
:returning '2' as the source, which means STEPLIB or JOBLIB. But now 
RDJFCB
:fails... it looks like a DDname other than STEPLIB is being used as STEPLIB: 
the
:LISTALC command shows a new DDname $TEP0001.

:Does anyone know if the DCB and/or the DDname of this SYS00070 (in the
:case of TSOLIB) or $TEP0001 (in the case of the STEPLIB command) is
:available in some control block somewhere, and if so, in which one?

You would find the DCB addresses in the TCBJLB field. You need to check 
every
TCB up from your TCB.

--
Sorry - now it looks like using TCBJLB does work... BLDL gives success. I must 
have done something wrong before... Thanks!
What remains now is to find the DDname TCBJLB is pointing to.

Thanks,

Etienne

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NPIV question

2011-03-30 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
I would like to configure NPIV on our z10 BC server. In reading various
books, I see a requirement for enabling NPIV on the switch before
enabling it on the z10. Right now, I have one chpid configured as a FCP
type accessible to our IFL hosting Linux under z/vm. We have not plugged
cables into the chpid port yet. My question is: Should the cable be
connected to the z10 and the switch prior to either the switch and z10
being configured for NPIV? ? and if not, why does it matter if I enable
it first?

Asked question on IBMLINK and they re-queued back to me with no response 
suggesting a hardware call...

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Office of Technology Data Center
1900 Kanawha Blvd East
Charleston, WV  25305
(304)558-5914 ext 58292
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Re: NPIV question

2011-03-30 Thread Mark Post
 On 3/30/2011 at 02:13 PM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov 
 wrote: 
 My question is: Should the cable be
 connected to the z10 and the switch prior to either the switch and z10
 being configured for NPIV? ? and if not, why does it matter if I enable
 it first?

Having the cable there first isn't necessary.  The reason you want to do it on 
the switch first is that if the HBA (your FICON card) tries to talk NPIV to 
the switch and the switch says I don't think so, it won't work until after 
the switch is reconfigured and your FICON card varied completely offline and 
back on.


Mark Post

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Re: TSOLIB, BLDL RDJFCB

2011-03-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:49:59 -0500 Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl
wrote:

:On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:29:25 +0200, Binyamin Dissen 
:bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote:

:On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:35:02 -0500 Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl
:wrote:

::I need my C program to start another program that is in the same load 
:library.
::To discover the name of this load library, I use BLDL to get a 
concatenation
::number in STEPLIB or JOBLIB, and RDJFCB with DDname STEPLIB 
:or JOBLIB
::to get the name from these lists.

::This works fine in batch. Now I would like to do the same under TSO. I
::thought I could use the TSO command TSOLIB to set STEPLIB, but no, BLDL
::returns error 4, so apparently STEPLIB was not set correctly. LISTALC 
:shows a
::new DDname called SYS00070, though...

::I also tried the STEPLIB command under TSO. This time BLDL does succeed,
::returning '2' as the source, which means STEPLIB or JOBLIB. But now 
:RDJFCB
::fails... it looks like a DDname other than STEPLIB is being used as 
STEPLIB: 
:the
::LISTALC command shows a new DDname $TEP0001.

::Does anyone know if the DCB and/or the DDname of this SYS00070 (in the
::case of TSOLIB) or $TEP0001 (in the case of the STEPLIB command) is
::available in some control block somewhere, and if so, in which one?

:You would find the DCB addresses in the TCBJLB field. You need to check 
:every
:TCB up from your TCB.

:Sorry - now it looks like using TCBJLB does work... BLDL gives success. I 
must 
:have done something wrong before... Thanks!
:What remains now is to find the DDname TCBJLB is pointing to.

DCBTIOT.

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Re: Antwort: Question About use TAPEMAP Program

2011-03-30 Thread Ed Finnell
Great, thanks for the update.
 
 
In a message dated 3/30/2011 11:56:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sergio...@hotmail.com writes:

Run ok  with this JES command :



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zVienna IBM System z Technical University (2-6 May 2011)- Vienna

2011-03-30 Thread Pamela Christina where the snow has not melted
Cross-posed to IBMVM, IBMMAIN, LINUX390 for those who are interested
enhancing their System z skills at IBM technical conferences
focused on System z.

Hi Everyone,
The next big z conference in Europe is open for enrollment.

IBM System z Technical University
2-6 May 2011
Vienna, Austria

Web site:
http://www.ibm.com/training/conf/europe/systemz

This is 4.5-day event runs from Monday morning
through Friday 1:00 PM.

If you need z technical education and want to get caught up
on the latest on z, consider this conference which
focuses on System z, zEnterprise, z/OS, z/VSE, z/VM, and
Linux on System z and more.
There will also be hands on labs throughout the week,
a product expo with IBM and ISV exhibitors and a
University Day on Tuesday (with visiting students).

The details about enrollment, accommodations at Vienna Hilton,
agenda grid and session lists and abstracts can be
found on the web site.
http://www.ibm.com/training/conf/europe/systemz


Regards
Pam C

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Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?

2011-03-30 Thread Ed Gould

From: Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 8:05:38 AM
Subject: Re: Why does SORT forbid E15+E35 in COBOL for OPTION COPY?

SORT provides a rich control card language for record selection and rejection 
and other data processing operations that I don't have to program.  Having 
the 
capabilities of that language between the E15 and E35 exits allows me to take 
advantage of those rich capabilities without having to program them myself.  As 
it stands, I have to perform a useless SORT operation in order to use both 
exits, and be careful in specifying the SORT key that I don't disturb the 
original order of the records in so doing.

BTW, MODS-type E15 and E35 exits for a JCL-invoked SORT do NOT need to do their 
own I/O.  SORT passes the records it reads from SORTIN to the E15 exit to 
manipulate and the sorted or merged records to the E35 exit to manipulate.  
This lets me take advantage of SORT's superior (i.e., faster) I/O facilities.  
Both exits use the REPLACE record function to return the manipulated records 
to SORT.

In my particular case the exits allow me to decode RECFM=VB records stored on 
disk in an application-specific scheme on the way in through the E15 exit, 
yielding a fixed-length record easily processed with SORT capabilities, and to 
re-code processed records using that application-specific scheme on the way out 
in the E35 exit.  No COBOL I/O involved.

Peter


Peter:

Yes I agree sort does provide a rich control card combination.
*WAY* back when we had a programmer come up wih an E61 exit. That exit was 
(IIRC 
only supported by IBM  DFSORT). I sat down with him one afternoon trying to 
make sense of it and he actually had a valid case. I no longer remember the 
specifics but when I talked with SYNCSORT they were surprised to see that we 
actually used it. Syncsort was actually interested in it. They were sort of 
hinting they wanted to see source but I had no idea where it was.  It wasn't 
about security it was about the hundreds of places it could have been.

Ed




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Re: Check TAPE Contents

2011-03-30 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip--


Not sure if this works or not, the date on the member is prior Y2K...

//DITTOPROC LBL=BLP,VSER=XX,UNT=TAPE
//IDCAMS   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS  
//UIN  DD  DISP=OLD,
// DSN=FILE01,  
// UNIT=(UNT), 
// VOL=(,RETAIN,SER=VSER), 
// LABEL=(FN,LBL,,EXPDT=98000),   
//DCB=(BLKSIZE=32760,RECFM=U)   
//*DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=4050) 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
// PEND 
//DITTO1 EXEC DITTO,VSER=000297,FN=01,LBL=BLP,UNT=ETAPE 
//SYSIN  DD*
   PRINT INFILE(UIN) COUNT(20) 

 


unsnip---
A EXPDT of  98000 is generally accepted as a signal to bypass any tape 
management system that might be present. AFAIK, this did not change over 
the Y2K transition.


Rick

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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Rick Fochtman

W. Kevin Kelley wrote:


Wow! I am overwhelmed with the response so far.  THANK YOU!

For those of you that I haven't heard from, PLEASE POST -- this was not a 
casual query; decisions will be made on it.


W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development

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I've used it as an emergency console, but only until my TP environment 
was established. At that point, we switched over to using SDSF to run 
the system until regular console service could be established.


Rick

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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
1) yes

2) No OSA consoles

3) No - use Visara controllers for locally attached remotely accessible 
consoles.

Jerry Whitteridge
Design Engineer
Safeway Inc.
925 951 4184

If you feel in control
you just aren't going fast enough.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley
 Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:02 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
 
 I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC
 System
 Console is actually being used by z/OS customers:
 
 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console
 of last
 resort?
 
 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?
 
 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the
 System
 Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS
 consoles
 (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?
 
 W. Kevin Kelley  -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development
 
 
 
 
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VTAM PLU PARSESS=NO PLU, BUT SLU PARSESS=YES

2011-03-30 Thread George Henke
Is it possible to have such a config?

I am getting VTAM sense code 0805000B Session Setup Error in an
OMEGAMON VTAM Terminal Pool for APPL defined with PARSESS=YES when the PLU
has PARSESS=NO.

VTAM tries to start a session with a duplicate SLU APPL and gets the
0805000B.  I suspect it is because it thinks there can be more than one
session for the SLU APPLs when in fact there cannot.

If one partner in an LU-LU session is PARSESS=YES, I would think both
partners would need to be or if not at least the PLU would need to be.

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Re: VTAM PLU PARSESS=NO PLU, BUT SLU PARSESS=YES

2011-03-30 Thread Chris Mason
George

This looks very clear - including the sense code[1] - dare I say, for once! 
Perhaps you have misunderstood some aspect of the OMEGAMON 
documentation regarding the PARSESS operand.

The PARSESS=YES operand is used by a program using the VTAM API for the 
purposes of identifying the partner in certain calls/macros. Programs not 
capable of parallel sessions necessarily use can use the symbolic name field 
of the NIB control block (NIBSYM) in order to provide the LU name of the 
partner. Programs capable of parallel sessions necessarily use 
the communication identifier (CID) field of the NIB control block (NIBCID) in 
order specifically to identify the session.

I believe the CID is used only within a particular VTAM and is not seen in 
the 
session itself and so whether a program using the VTAM API uses the NIBSYM 
field or the NIBCID field is a matter of interest only to that program and that 
VTAM. However, very clearly, only when the NIBCID field is used, can there be 
more than one session at a time with a particular partner LU.

 If one partner in an LU-LU session is PARSESS=YES, I would think both 
partners would need to be or if not at least the PLU would need to be.

Thus, where there are going to be so-called parallel sessions supported by 
programs both using the VTAM API, the relevant APPL statements must both 
specify PARSESS=YES - unless the PARSESS operand defaults to 
PARSESS=YES as when APPC=YES is also specified.

Where there are *not* going to be so-called parallel sessions supported by 
programs both using the VTAM API, the relevant APPL statement of the 
program which only ever uses a single session with any partner LU must 
specify PARSESS=NO because those VTAM API calls/macros for which the 
PARSESS operand is important always use the NIBSYM field.

You can check on this point by examination of the Communications Server 
SNA Programming manual searching with PARSESS.

The documentation of the VTAM program should indicate that PARSESS=YES 
where it is appropriate because the developers wrote the program to use the 
VTAM API in a way which requires PARSESS=YES. If the documentation of the 
VTAM program does not indicate that PARSESS=YES is required, I think - 
check the manual very carefully - you could cause problems if PARSESS=YES 
is specified.

-

[1]

quote

Sense code 0805

Session limit exceeded: The requested session cannot be activated, as one of 
the NAUs is at its session limit, for example, the LU-LU session limit or the 
(LU, 
mode) session limit. This sense code applies to ACTCDRM, INIT, BIND, and 
CINIT requests.

Bytes 2 and 3 following the sense code contain sense-code-specific 
information.

000B The request was rejected because a session already exists between the 
same LU pair, and at least one of the LUs does not support parallel sessions.

/quote

-

Chris Mason

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:26:44 -0400, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Is it possible to have such a config?

I am getting VTAM sense code 0805000B Session Setup Error in an
OMEGAMON VTAM Terminal Pool for APPL defined with PARSESS=YES when 
the PLU
has PARSESS=NO.

VTAM tries to start a session with a duplicate SLU APPL and gets the
0805000B.  I suspect it is because it thinks there can be more than one
session for the SLU APPLs when in fact there cannot.

If one partner in an LU-LU session is PARSESS=YES, I would think both
partners would need to be or if not at least the PLU would need to be.

George Henke

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Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

2011-03-30 Thread Edward Jaffe

On 3/28/2011 9:01 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote:

1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last
resort?

2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?

3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System
Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles
(or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?


1 and sorta-3. We have ESCON-attached DIDOCS consoles (via Visara controller), 
but our computer room is dark and we do nearly all of our IPLs remotely. 
Therefore, we don't define any NIP consoles to z/OS.


BTW, we would *really* like it if the 3270 console on the remote HMC worked for 
z/OS like it does for z/VM. :-)


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