Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-26 Thread Neil Duffee 
Dave:  Is there the off chance that you're looking at a decimal value (20) 
output which would translate to 0x'14': "The issuer had established an enabled, 
unlocked task (EUT) mode functional recovery routine (FRR)..."?

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2H7C0/SPTM014982

'course it really *might* be a documentation failure...

ps.  I get the digest so this might already have been discussed/hashed to death.
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> -Original Message-
> From: David Cole [mailto:dbc...@colesoft.com] 
> Sent: October 25, 2011 19:20
> Subject: ABEND0F8-20
> 
> Does anyone know what an abend s0F8-20 means?
> Code 20 is not documented even in R1.13's MVS System Codes manual.

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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-26 Thread David Cole 

Thanks Peter.

Your answers are directly on point.

I appreciate it.
Dave


At 10/26/2011 07:48 AM, Peter Relson wrote:
Due to a screw-up on our part many of the z/OS 1.13 "RMODE 
64"-related updates to the books did not make it. This was one. 
While the books themselves might not get updated for some time, 
there will likely be an info APAR directing you to some web location 
where you can find all the missing information. That is not in place yet.


I can confirm that ABEND0F8-20 is indeed "you issued an SVC other 
than SVC X'D' (ABEND) from code that resides >= 2G"


Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-26 Thread Bill Fairchild 
The full meaning is that z/OS disallows execution of the SVC instruction in 
many environments; e.g., when disabled for I/O interrupts, when holding a 
system lock, when in SRB mode, possibly some others, and now also if the SVC 
instruction is located above the bar.  However, the one SVC 13 (or D, aka 
ABEND) is allowed in any environment, since the result of trying to execute an 
SVC in an unsupported environment results in an ABEND macro (SVC 13) issued by 
the operating system in order to drive RTM and clean up after the program that 
attempted to execute the original SVC instruction improperly.  One way to 
remember the environments in which extra care must be taken is the acronym EUT, 
meaning Enabled, Unlocked, Task mode.  EUT is used as a parameter on the SETFRR 
macro, which also mentions some other things that might not be allowed in these 
rarified environments.

Bill Fairchild
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>Only ABEND. All others disallowed.

What does this response even mean?
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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-26 Thread Mark Zelden 
I admit I had to read it twice, but I understood.  Also I'm pretty sure this
was mentioned not too long ago by (probably) Peter or Jim. 

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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:11:30 +1000, Shane  wrote:

>On the contrary - Dave asked a question, you answered it.
>More than sufficient - and understandable.
>
>Shane ..
>
>On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:22:33 -0400 Tom Harper wrote:
>
>> Maybe I was too brief.
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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-26 Thread Peter Relson 
Due to a screw-up on our part many of the z/OS 1.13 "RMODE 64"-related 
updates to the books did not make it. This was one. While the books 
themselves might not get updated for some time, there will likely be an 
info APAR directing you to some web location where you can find all the 
missing information. That is not in place yet.

I can confirm that ABEND0F8-20 is indeed "you issued an SVC other than SVC 
X'D' (ABEND) from code that resides >= 2G"

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-25 Thread Pommier, Rex R. 
Shane,

Actually Dave asked 2 questions, the more pressing of them (to me anyway) being 
the first, "Does anyone know what an abend s0f8-20 means..."  His second 
question "...can anyone confirm or deny..." was the one answered by Tom, but I 
will admit that I didn't know what he meant by his response - especially since 
I was trying to compute "ABEND" as the response to "what is an abend s0f8...".


 I will give a hearty "Thank you" to Tom for responding back so quickly with a 
much clearer response where he put context around his "ABEND" answer.

Granted it's late in my time zone and maybe the fog invading my mind would be 
burned off by morning, but then again, maybe not.  :-)

Rex

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On the contrary - Dave asked a question, you answered it.
More than sufficient - and understandable.

Shane ..

On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:22:33 -0400 Tom Harper wrote:

> Maybe I was too brief.

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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL 
>More than sufficient - and understandable.

Not for all of us.
I truly did NOT understand the response.
If I did, I wouldn't have said I didn't.
Not all of us know everything, despite claims to the contrary.

Just because you understood it, doesn't mean the rest of us are so enlightened!
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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-25 Thread Shane 
On the contrary - Dave asked a question, you answered it.
More than sufficient - and understandable.

Shane ..

On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:22:33 -0400 Tom Harper wrote:

> Maybe I was too brief.

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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
In <47d6ad63e3c0b4448c47ec031da080f525e6540...@mail34.thoughtbus.com>,
on 10/25/2011
   at 08:22 PM, Tom Harper  said:

>Maybe I was too brief.

So was ted; he had no attribution line.
 
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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Harper 
Maybe I was too brief. It means that the only SVC allowed to be issued above 
the bar is ABEND.

Tom

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>Only ABEND. All others disallowed.

What does this response even mean?
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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL 
>Only ABEND. All others disallowed.

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Re: ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-25 Thread Tom Harper 
Dave,

Only ABEND. All others disallowed.

Tom

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Subject: ABEND0F8-20

Does anyone know what an abend s0F8-20 means?

Code 20 is not documented even in R1.13's MVS System Codes manual.

I suspect it means that you cannot issue an SVC instruction from 
above the bar. Can anyone confirm or deny that?

Thanks,

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ABEND0F8-20

2011-10-25 Thread David Cole 

Does anyone know what an abend s0F8-20 means?

Code 20 is not documented even in R1.13's MVS System Codes manual.

I suspect it means that you cannot issue an SVC instruction from 
above the bar. Can anyone confirm or deny that?


Thanks,

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