Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:11:45 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Actually, their product runs on the mainframe, and translates TN3270E data setreams to HTML Web pages. So any built in web browser accesses a remote mainframe with this product installed on the mainframe. Which puts the CPU burden on the mainframe (3270-HTML). And on the smartphone, depending on how complicated the HTML must be to render vs. tn3270. Sorry to jump into this one so late, but I was wandering through the iPhone app list looking for free stuff and came across TN3270 Lite. http://www.mochasoft.dk/iphone_tn3270.htm I downloaded it, but my security guys won't let me try it. Oh well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
Mike Schwab observes: Actually, their product runs on the mainframe, and translates TN3270E data setreams to HTML Web pages. So any built in web browser accesses a remote mainframe with this product installed on the mainframe. Many products do, including a popular product produced by my employer. John McKown remarks: Which puts the CPU burden on the mainframe (3270-HTML). And on the smartphone, depending on how complicated the HTML must be to render vs. tn3270. Well, yes. But chances are excellent the debate about end user interface on the smartphone has been settled already, and (except perhaps for system programmers and operators) a traditional 3270-style user interface depending on a special installable smartphone client isn't going to fly. It's not a very good match for most (or all) smartphones anyway. Mobile-tailored Web user interfaces are a much better (and more useful) fit for the vast majority of users, never mind the networking issues. In terms of CPU burden, sure, there's CPU burden incurred *somewhere*, and CPU burden is never free anywhere. My employer -- the one that I do not speak for -- has neatly solved that financial problem at least in this particular mainframe use case and within its sphere. - - - - - Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect STG Value Creation Complex Deals Team IBM Growth Markets (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:51 -0400, Mike Schwab wrote: http://www.hercules-390.org/hercfaq.html In Section 3.01, Paragraph 4 of 6: [...] The prize for the world's smallest mainframe probably goes to Ivan Warren, who claims to have run VM/370 under Hercules on an iPAQ 5450 handheld PDA. Time marches on! As I've mentioned here before, I've IPLed Volker Bandke's Tur(n)key MVS system on my N900. 5450 dimensions: 5.23 x 3.3 x .63 7.23 oz. N900 dimensions: 4.37 x 2.35 x .77 6.38 oz. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes: In terms of CPU burden, sure, there's CPU burden incurred *somewhere*, and CPU burden is never free anywhere. My employer -- the one that I do not speak for -- has neatly solved that financial problem at least in this particular mainframe use case and within its sphere. earlier thread http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#43 IBM 3883 Manuals referencing few past posts (about processing required to handle all the TPF/ACP reservations in the world) mentioning cellphone xscale processor (in TREO) rated at a thousand MIPS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#79 Happy DEC-10 Day http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010b.html#80 Happy DEC-10 Day xscale/arm reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture newer generation of ARM processors are even faster. http://www.arm.com/products/processors/index.php above mentions that there are already 20 billion ARM processosrs and more than 10 million ARM processors ship everyday. 3031 was one mip, 3032 was 3mips, and 3033 was 4.5mips. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I hate to bring up an old topic but has anyone seen or tried this?? http://www.syspertec.us/smartphone.html mace -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Larry Macioce mace1...@gmail.com wrote: I hate to bring up an old topic but has anyone seen or tried this?? http://www.syspertec.us/smartphone.html mace x3270 should be able to be comipled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules should be able to be compiled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules has run on a Compaq handheld with VM/370 5pack. Might no be very fast, but I can't believe my smart phone is a mainframe would be one heck of a quote. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
These guys are not going to get very far with comments like this: Uses Assembler runtime components rather than Java or C++ ones: nothing beats the speed and efficiency of Assembler on a mainframe David Elliot zSeries Software Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone? On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Larry Macioce mace1...@gmail.com wrote: I hate to bring up an old topic but has anyone seen or tried this?? http://www.syspertec.us/smartphone.html mace x3270 should be able to be comipled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules should be able to be compiled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules has run on a Compaq handheld with VM/370 5pack. Might no be very fast, but I can't believe my smart phone is a mainframe would be one heck of a quote. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
Actually, their product runs on the mainframe, and translates TN3270E data setreams to HTML Web pages. So any built in web browser accesses a remote mainframe with this product installed on the mainframe. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Elliot, David elli...@aafes.com wrote: These guys are not going to get very far with comments like this: Uses Assembler runtime components rather than Java or C++ ones: nothing beats the speed and efficiency of Assembler on a mainframe David Elliot zSeries Software Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone? On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Larry Macioce mace1...@gmail.com wrote: I hate to bring up an old topic but has anyone seen or tried this?? http://www.syspertec.us/smartphone.html mace x3270 should be able to be comipled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules should be able to be compiled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules has run on a Compaq handheld with VM/370 5pack. Might no be very fast, but I can't believe my smart phone is a mainframe would be one heck of a quote. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone? Actually, their product runs on the mainframe, and translates TN3270E data setreams to HTML Web pages. So any built in web browser accesses a remote mainframe with this product installed on the mainframe. Which puts the CPU burden on the mainframe (3270-HTML). And on the smartphone, depending on how complicated the HTML must be to render vs. tn3270. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
It was a joke pal. Sorry. David Elliot zSeries Software Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone? Actually, their product runs on the mainframe, and translates TN3270E data setreams to HTML Web pages. So any built in web browser accesses a remote mainframe with this product installed on the mainframe. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Elliot, David elli...@aafes.com wrote: These guys are not going to get very far with comments like this: Uses Assembler runtime components rather than Java or C++ ones: nothing beats the speed and efficiency of Assembler on a mainframe David Elliot zSeries Software Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone? On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Larry Macioce mace1...@gmail.com wrote: I hate to bring up an old topic but has anyone seen or tried this?? http://www.syspertec.us/smartphone.html mace x3270 should be able to be comipled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules should be able to be compiled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules has run on a Compaq handheld with VM/370 5pack. Might no be very fast, but I can't believe my smart phone is a mainframe would be one heck of a quote. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Larry Macioce mace1...@gmail.com wrote: I hate to bring up an old topic but has anyone seen or tried this?? http://www.syspertec.us/smartphone.html mace x3270 should be able to be comipled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules should be able to be compiled on any processor with a C compiler. Hercules has run on a Compaq handheld with VM/370 5pack. Might no be very fast, but I can't believe my smart phone is a mainframe would be one heck of a quote. http://www.hercules-390.org/hercfaq.html In Section 3.01, Paragraph 4 of 6: Hercules does not depend on the Pentium architecture. I've built and run it successfully on a 500 MHz Alpha 21164, and others have run it on SPARC and S/390 (!) Linux systems. One guy has even run OS/360 under Hercules under Linux/390 under Hercules under Linux/390 under VM/ESA! The prize for the world's smallest mainframe probably goes to Ivan Warren, who claims to have run VM/370 under Hercules on an iPAQ 5450 handheld PDA. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
IBM could probably pay some 12-year-old $50 to write it between classes at grammar school. My nephew (he's 12) told me last week that he was upset that his Java teacher didn't even know how to properly set up the IDE to write and debug. I felt really old. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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IBM has introduced specific iPhone/iPod touch support in Rational HATS (Host Access Transformation Services), so that's one nice option. More information here: http://www.ibm.com/software/awdtools/hats/ That'd be a universal approach -- the only client requirement is a Web browser -- which has its advantages. If you want something old school, MochaSoft offers 3270 emulators for the iPhone, iPod touch, iPad, Blackberry, etc. I have no personal experience with them. More information here: http://www.mochasoft.dk/products.htm - - - - - Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect STG Value Creation Complex Deals Team IBM Growth Markets (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: If you want something old school, MochaSoft offers 3270 emulators for the iPhone, iPod touch, iPad, Blackberry, etc. I have no personal experience with them. More information here: And they have a 5250 client for Android but no 3270, alas. So close... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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How about C compilers to compile Hercules? On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 9:39 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: If you want something old school, MochaSoft offers 3270 emulators for the iPhone, iPod touch, iPad, Blackberry, etc. I have no personal experience with them. More information here: And they have a 5250 client for Android but no 3270, alas. So close... -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I'm not sure about Android (being a WebOS person), but if you're worried about the Terms of Service, Verizon dropped the price of the Palm Pre/Pixi mobile hotspot to $0. Previously they charged for it. See: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/01/verizon-mobile-hotspot-on- webos-devices-now-free/ You can also tether the Pre on Sprint, but it's not sanctioned by Sprint. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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I have an ssh client for my Blackberry, but have been unable to find a tn3270 client. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Scott Chapman sachap...@aep.com wrote: I'm not sure about Android (being a WebOS person), but if you're worried about the Terms of Service, Verizon dropped the price of the Palm Pre/Pixi mobile hotspot to $0. Previously they charged for it. See: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/01/verizon-mobile-hotspot-on- webos-devices-now-free/ You can also tether the Pre on Sprint, but it's not sanctioned by Sprint. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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In a message dated 7/30/2010 7:44:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pacemainl...@gmail.com writes: I have an ssh client for my Blackberry, but have been unable to find a tn3270 client. Seems like IBM is missing the boat by not having a WebAPP store for these types of thingys. Or even better an orderable product, heck might give 'em away as door prizes at SHARE. Come to SHARE get your Mondo Compensated Hickey Dodger with SSH and TN3270 portal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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But developing 'em isn't free, and neither is support ... why should they do it? (Not disagreeing that it would be nice -- I've gone through the same exercise of trying to find one!) On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 7/30/2010 7:44:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pacemainl...@gmail.com writes: I have an ssh client for my Blackberry, but have been unable to find a tn3270 client. Seems like IBM is missing the boat by not having a WebAPP store for these types of thingys. Or even better an orderable product, heck might give 'em away as door prizes at SHARE. Come to SHARE get your Mondo Compensated Hickey Dodger with SSH and TN3270 portal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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In a message dated 7/30/2010 9:42:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, zedgarhoo...@gmail.com writes: and neither is support ... why should they do it? Make zEnterprise more attractive/accessible. Heaven forbid a coordinated strategy, sacre bleu... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: Make zEnterprise more attractive/accessible. Heaven forbid a coordinated strategy, sacre bleu... Ok...I can see that. But it's a pretty tiny payoff -- surely there are better places to focus the same $$$ on? -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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In a message dated 7/30/2010 10:53:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, zedgarhoo...@gmail.com writes: Ok...I can see that. But it's a pretty tiny payoff -- surely there are better places to focus the same $$$ on? If you look at the Apple/RIM numbers they're pretty impressive. Just want a thingy that can motor to Z w/o having to buy another thingy. Heck could even have Twitter/blogger button to break up the monotony. Put a whistle to call the dog and irritate the cat, Red dot site just to practice on the boss...innovation and imagination! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
OK, it's probably a stupid thought. But we are losing our laptop with the air card. So we won't have a way to access our z system when not at home or where there is wifi (assuming I take my own laptop around with me). So, with all these new smartphones such as the Droid, I was wondering if that device could be used to VPN into our LAN and then do 3270 emulation? I know absolutely nothing about these devices. Can they telnet into UNIX systems? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Assuming you have no firewall issues... Finding a 3270 emulator for Android will be the biggest problem. I've been looking for one since I got an Android based phone without luck. The form factor will be the next hurdle to get past. Granted, you won't be doing heads down data entry, but it is certainly not something you want to be doing long term work with either. There is a OpenVPN client for Android, but sadly it requires rooting the device. An implementation of VNC is also available. An SSH client is available which I've used, it is quite nice. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:27 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: OK, it's probably a stupid thought. But we are losing our laptop with the air card. So we won't have a way to access our z system when not at home or where there is wifi (assuming I take my own laptop around with me). So, with all these new smartphones such as the Droid, I was wondering if that device could be used to VPN into our LAN and then do 3270 emulation? I know absolutely nothing about these devices. Can they telnet into UNIX systems? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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John, There are VPN client software for windows mobile based phones. There are TN3270 and telnet clients for most phones windows mobile, blackberry, iphone, android etc. There are also VNC/RDP clients for most of these phones. Though all these exist, its very hard to use from handheld devices. Drawbacks are small screen, keyboard, navigation etc. I have found it easier to tether via phone to a laptop and use full fledged laptop. You would need additional software like Rove, Alarmpoint etc to make your handheld really useful for remote administration. If your organization allows access to the network via personal computers, that is the way to go. HTH, Natarajan On 07/29/2010 11:27 AM, McKown, John wrote: OK, it's probably a stupid thought. But we are losing our laptop with the air card. So we won't have a way to access our z system when not at home or where there is wifi (assuming I take my own laptop around with me). So, with all these new smartphones such as the Droid, I was wondering if that device could be used to VPN into our LAN and then do 3270 emulation? I know absolutely nothing about these devices. Can they telnet into UNIX systems? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY The information contained in this communication, including but not limited to any accompanying document(s) and/or attachment(s), is privileged and confidential and is intended solely for the above-named individual(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that any distribution, copying, disclosure, and/or use of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of the communication, whether in electronic or hard copy format, and immediately contact the Security Office at EdFund at (916) 526-7539 or securityoff...@edfund.org. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
Here is a redbook on just this topic. It has support for iPhone and Droid. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg247836.html?OpenDocument System z on the Go: Access z/OS from Smartphones. Brad Wissink Information Technology Services Iowa State University 515-294-3088 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone? OK, it's probably a stupid thought. But we are losing our laptop with the air card. So we won't have a way to access our z system when not at home or where there is wifi (assuming I take my own laptop around with me). So, with all these new smartphones such as the Droid, I was wondering if that device could be used to VPN into our LAN and then do 3270 emulation? I know absolutely nothing about these devices. Can they telnet into UNIX systems? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
John, acquired a Nokia N900 telephone last week and have been SSH and telneting to my heart's content. C3270 (sister of X3270) works also. = OK, it's probably a stupid thought. But we are losing our laptop with the = air card. So we won't have a way to access our z system when not at home = or where there is wifi (assuming I take my own laptop around with me). So, = with all these new smartphones such as the Droid, I was wondering if = that device could be used to VPN into our LAN and then do 3270 emulation? = I know absolutely nothing about these devices. Can they telnet into UNIX = systems? = = = John McKown = Systems Engineer IV = IT = = Administrative Services Group = = HealthMarkets(r) = = 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 = (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell = john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com = = Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or = proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please = contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original = message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and = issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The = Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance = Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM = = = -- = For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, = send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO = Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html = John Cassidy (Dipl.-Ingr.) Kapellenstr. 21a D-65193 Wiesbaden EU Mobile: +49 (0) 170 794 3616 http://www.JDCassidy.net http://en.federaleurope.org/ http://sva-zhosting.com/en/index.php -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EXTERNAL: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
Take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ24A5kE6XM VMware View on iPhone Dennis Roach GHG Corporation Lockheed Martin Mission Services Facilities Design and Operations Contract Strategic Technical Engineering NASA/JSC Address: 2100 Space Park Drive LM-15-4BH Houston, Texas 77058 Mail: P.O. Box 58487 Mail Code H4C Houston, Texas 77258-8487 Phone: Voice: (281)336-5027 Cell: (713)591-1059 Fax:(281)336-5410 E-Mail: dennis.ro...@lmco.com All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or manufactured, since the beginning of time. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: EXTERNAL: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone? OK, it's probably a stupid thought. But we are losing our laptop with the air card. So we won't have a way to access our z system when not at home or where there is wifi (assuming I take my own laptop around with me). So, with all these new smartphones such as the Droid, I was wondering if that device could be used to VPN into our LAN and then do 3270 emulation? I know absolutely nothing about these devices. Can they telnet into UNIX systems? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
So, with all these new smartphones such as the Droid, I was wondering if that device could be used to VPN into our LAN and then do 3270 emulation? I know absolutely nothing about these devices. Can they telnet into UNIX systems? Since RUMBA and HOD can 3270-Interface with IE, I can give a definite maybe on that one. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
John, Android apps like the free EasyTether Lite can be used to tether your laptop to the cell data network on most Android phones. The app is basically a NAT router written in Java, and doesn't require you to root the phone. The free version of the app blocks https: after a while, but other ports like ftp(21), ssh (22), telnet (23) and tn3270 (623,1023, etc) seem to work fine.If you know someone with an Android phone, give it a try since YMMV. This may be insufficient, however, if your company has some kind of VPN that requires a VPN client on your computer that is not compatible with the NAT router, but that might work also depending on the VPN protocol. Finally, using this kind of app could be considered as a violation of your cell carrier's terms of service, since they would prefer to sell you a tethering feature for your phone for an extra $30-50 / month. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:27 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: OK, it's probably a stupid thought. But we are losing our laptop with the air card. So we won't have a way to access our z system when not at home or where there is wifi (assuming I take my own laptop around with me). So, with all these new smartphones such as the Droid, I was wondering if that device could be used to VPN into our LAN and then do 3270 emulation? I know absolutely nothing about these devices. Can they telnet into UNIX systems? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
There is a TN3270 Lite app for the iPhone. Coincidentally, someone was just showing it to me earlier today. Greg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone? OK, it's probably a stupid thought. But we are losing our laptop with the air card. So we won't have a way to access our z system when not at home or where there is wifi (assuming I take my own laptop around with me). So, with all these new smartphones such as the Droid, I was wondering if that device could be used to VPN into our LAN and then do 3270 emulation? I know absolutely nothing about these devices. Can they telnet into UNIX systems? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:39:28 -0500, Rich Smrcina wrote: There is a OpenVPN client for Android, but sadly it requires rooting the device. An implementation of VNC is also available. An SSH client is available which I've used, it is quite nice. root? Would that be a synonym for jailbreak? Or is it from the Strine lexicon? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
It's the term in Android-land. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: root? Would that be a synonym for jailbreak? Or is it from the Strine lexicon? -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Access z/OS 3270 TSO from smartphone?
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:34:27 -0400, zMan wrote: It's the term in Android-land. So, a little of both, then, eh? On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: root? Would that be a synonym for jailbreak? Or is it from the Strine lexicon? Searching around, I discovered that on July 26 the LoC ruled that root/jailbreak does not violate DMCA. I didn't know they were the arbiter of that. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
