In A Box - Fini (Was All Boxed Up)
The condition was caused by the bottom part of the controller/tape unit being powered off. Naive me thought that when one recycled the power on a tape unit like that all components and sub-components would come up. Time + $$ consumed on this was ridiculous. Two senior level sysprogs fighting messages. 1 hardware engineer talking us through a service element diagnosis for over an hour, and then finally coming to the site. Been messing with this stuff for over 30 years and that beat all I've ever seen with a hardware issue. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: In A Box - Fini (Was All Boxed Up)
I guess we can all take a tip from squatty box support. 1. Is it plugged in? 2. Is the power switch on? 3. Is the little green light on? If the above is true then proceed with 'normal' diagnostics. -Original Message- Daniel A. McLaughlin The condition was caused by the bottom part of the controller/tape unit being powered off. Naive me thought that when one recycled the power on a tape unit like that all components and sub-components would come up. Time + $$ consumed on this was ridiculous. Two senior level sysprogs fighting messages. 1 hardware engineer talking us through a service element diagnosis for over an hour, and then finally coming to the site. Been messing with this stuff for over 30 years and that beat all I've ever seen with a hardware issue. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: In A Box - Fini (Was All Boxed Up)
I guess we can all take a tip from squatty box support. snipped Yeah, the BSOD ain't elegant, but at least you know there is a problem. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: In A Box - Fini (Was All Boxed Up)
In a message dated 11/10/2006 7:44:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Been messing with this stuff for over 30 years and that beat all I've ever seen with a hardware issue. IIRC there were early microcode problems with power-up in 3590. Might have the CE check/confirm with Phoenix. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: In A Box - Fini (Was All Boxed Up)
In a message dated 11/10/2006 8:48:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IIRC there were early microcode problems with power-up in 3590. Might have the CE check/confirm with Phoenix. Belay that, IMTS Tucson. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: In A Box - Fini (Was All Boxed Up)
Good idea, Ed. We're about to upgrade that particular box to the higher density drives, which should prompt a microcode update as well. I'll insist that the CE check that out. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
All Boxed Up
Tried to hit the archives to look for similar conditions, but it seems to be running a bit sluggishly this morning. Situation: Operator somehow hit the enable interface switch on a bank of 3590 drives. They went boxed and no matter what we have done, we cannot get them back. We have powered off/on the bank of drives, toggled chips, varied with various forms of vary for chipds and devices, all to no avail. Online doc says call hardware support. Could something have tripped inside the unit to require an engineer to reset? Thank you in advance... Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
...varied with various forms of vary... Including VARY device(s),ONLINE,UNCOND? Regards, Kevin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
In a message dated 11/9/2006 10:17:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Online doc says call hardware support. Could something have tripped inside the unit to require an engineer to reset? I'd plink at it with DEVSERV commands. ===DS QT,ucb,range to see which CHPids are funky then do the CONFIG to the funky chpid. ===CF CHP(xx),offline-wait for the beep! Then ===CF CHP(xx),online If it's powered on, shouldn't be anything the CE should be required for. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
what cpu are you running , are the CHPIDS on-line and not the devices, can you look at them from the HMC for example on our 2064 , we can put it in single object mode and display the chpids, you can see normal , loss of signal etc. at the hardware level Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] OMTo Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: All Boxed Up 11/09/2006 11:36 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU In a message dated 11/9/2006 10:17:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Online doc says call hardware support. Could something have tripped inside the unit to require an engineer to reset? I'd plink at it with DEVSERV commands. ===DS QT,ucb,range to see which CHPids are funky then do the CONFIG to the funky chpid. ===CF CHP(xx),offline-wait for the beep! Then ===CF CHP(xx),online If it's powered on, shouldn't be anything the CE should be required for. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
Yep...all them options. Just IPL'd the sandbox to see could we get them up there. Same results. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. Neubert, Kevin (DIS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 11/09/2006 11:36 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: All Boxed Up ...varied with various forms of vary... Including VARY device(s),ONLINE,UNCOND? Regards, Kevin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
We've about exhausted the MVS type commands, next will be the HMC approach. Thank you for the suggestion. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
In a message dated 11/9/2006 12:03:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We've about exhausted the MVS type commands, next will be the HMC approach. What about the Enable on the Magstar console? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
What about the Enable on the Magstar console? --- OK, that's a new one for mewhat would that look like because I don't think we have one. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
Haven't yet had this happen on our 3590s, but have had similar problems with channel interfaces on 3490 controllers. The solution with 3490s was was to get devices/CHPIDs off line to all systems and re-IML the tape controllers with the correct interfaces enabled, then put things back on line to MVS. The 3490 controllers would get in a state where they simply wouldn't re-enable the channel interfaces without an IML. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep...all them options. Just IPL'd the sandbox to see could we get them up there. Same results. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com ... Neubert, Kevin (DIS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 11/09/2006 11:36 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: All Boxed Up ...varied with various forms of vary... Including VARY device(s),ONLINE,UNCOND? Regards, Kevin ... -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, AR[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
In a message dated 11/9/2006 12:41:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, that's a new one for mewhat would that look like because I don't think we have one. The service PC in back of box? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
We've just spent 45 minutes on phone with the CE. He conceded and is on his way in. Thank you all for many good suggestions. Sometimes things break. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.crawfordandcompany.com This transmission is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are NOT authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication, its attachments or any part of them. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this communication from all computers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: All Boxed Up
In a message dated 11/9/2006 2:16:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you all for many good suggestions. Sometimes things break. Knuckles, kneecaps, thumbs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
