Re: JES2 Checkpoint and GRSRNL
Barbara Nitz kindly wrote: Also, I seem to remember that the checkpoint is always serialized via RESERVE. True. See JES2 Init and Tuning Guide (z/OS v1.12): For the checkpoint data set(s) that reside on a DASD volume, JES2 processing uses RESERVE and RELEASE logic with a software checkpoint lock to prevent JES2 members from simultaneously referencing and updating information kept in the checkpoint data set. I don't see any reason not to change the RNLS, as then JES shouldn't have any reason to even be aware that there is another JES on another system. Perhaps, but also from same book, this quote: For checkpoint data sets residing on DASD, IBM suggests that you add the checkpoint data set(s) to the RESERVE conversion resource exclusion name list (RNL) to prevent global resource serialization (GRS) from limiting access to that data set and degrading performance. For your other questions, I leave it to other gurus to help you... ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?
Peter van Dyke's point is well made, but it is perhaps fair to note that Lizette had already made it quietly by recommending the specification of mylib(*) John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT -- hackers
But who watches the watchers? Oh what a tangled web we weave - when first we practice to deceive - Sir Walter Scott Vacation Notice: None Tom Puddicombe Mainframe Performance Capacity Planning CSC 31 Brookdale Rd, Meriden, CT 06450 ITIS | (860) 428-3252 | tpudd...@csc.com | www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Date: 01/26/2013 10:58 AM Subject:Re: OT -- hackers Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: John, Agree totally, but we need to convince the powers to be that hackers must be licensed and monitored Hm. That's a stretch; I'm not particularly Libertarian/anti-regulation, but this seems impractical. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: mainframe selling points
someone--needs to tell BBC about false statements. From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 01/25/2013 05:47 PM Subject:Re: mainframe selling points Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Card reader / punch, lineprinter, reel tapes, unmounted 3330 disk pack. Things have sure progressed since then. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: The article below does not paint a good future for the mainframe...I hope the analysts are wrong. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19399368 deleted -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?
Lizette Koehler wrote: Idcams? Lizette beat me to it. We added that function in z/OS R12: IDCAMS is enhanced to allow you to delete all members of a partitioned data set in a single operation by specifying a wildcard character (*) as the member name for a data set when using the DELETE command. For example, you can now remove all members of a PDS or PDSE data set in a single command. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:30:14 -0500, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Peter van Dyke's point is well made, but it is perhaps fair to note that Lizette had already made it quietly by recommending the specification of mylib(*) John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA She recommended something different - IDCAMS. While the results are the same now, as Peter indicated ISPF was changed at the z/OS 1.5 level where as IDCAMS didn't get on board until much later - z/OS 1.12.If you do this with IDCAMS you now see this message: IDC0553I ALL MEMBERS IN DATA SET dsname DELETED Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?
My concern was that Lizette's contribution, which was ignored at the time, be properly recognized; and now it has been. It is also agreeable that IDCAMS and ISPF use the same syntax, and it would be even more agreeable if they used the same code. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?
Ah! Someone suggested 3.1 and then S * D -- but that issues 'n' individual member deletes. I did not think to try D on the first panel with * for a member name. Thanks all. My code works now. Processes SMF Type 42's just fine and dandy. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Van Dyke Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize? For z/OS 1.5 ISPF option 3.1 was modified to use STOW I when the D (Delete member) option is specified along with an * for the member name, e.g. 'VANDYKE.PDS(*)' -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?
I didn't ignore Lizette! 23 minutes after her post I wrote Bingo! Thanks! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize? My concern was that Lizette's contribution, which was ignored at the time, be properly recognized; and now it has been. It is also agreeable that IDCAMS and ISPF use the same syntax, and it would be even more agreeable if they used the same code. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?
Charles, Beato te! Lizette's post ought to have terminated the thread. Instead it went on interminably. My point was not, however, an ad hominem one; and if it had been you would not have been its target. I smelled implicit generic sexism, which is tedious; and I pointed it out. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:56:12 -0500, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Lizette's post ought to have terminated the thread. Instead it went on interminably. LOL! This is IBM-MAIN, most threads go on interminably. :-) -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
Charles Mills wrote: The problem for me starts with the incredibly inconsistent titling, which causes the manual titles to sort in no meaningful sequence, making it doubly hard to find the relevant manual. Many of the IBM bookshelves have this problem, but DFSMS is IMHO the worst. Look at the list below and tell me quick, which one of these manuals will tell you how to use the IDCAMS utility to delete all members of a PDS(E)? z/OS DFSMS Software Support for IBM System Storage TS1130 and TS1120 Tape Drives (3592)SC26-7514-04 snip While I do recognize the problems (who wouldn't?), I must express considerable sympathy for the writers and editors. Why? They cannot win. A comprehensive reorganization of the library could easily cause people who are experienced in a particular area of the system to stumble about for years while perhaps simplifying things for the less experienced in any given area. At the same time, leaving things as-is keeps people who know how to find what they need happier, perhaps at the expense of people who do not. However, the library's organization is not the only way to approach things. The search arguement z/os delete all members of a pds, which I happened to try first on Google, yielded this URL at the top of the results list (watch the wrap): http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r13/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r13.idak100%2Famspdse12.htm The topic it points to is Using the access method services DELETE command to delete all members of a PDS or PDSE. That same topic is the third hit with the second argument I tried, which was how do I delete all members of a pds? It rises back to the top with my third try, how do I delete all members of a pds on z/OS? This is not meant to excuse anything, but it seems an effective coping strategy that is reasonably independent of how we might choose to organize the information. YMMV, of course. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
John Eels has, as usual, said something sensible. GIYF is never bad advice, and here it is apposite, but it is also perilously close to a counsel of dispair. Surely some order---and if not order coherent disorder--can be introduced into the titles of IBM's technical publications. The problem was more severe when hard copies of these manuals were the norm, but for on-line search it should certainly be possible to supply references from obsolescent|obsolete titles and publication numbers to new ones. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM documentation - anybody know the current tool? (from Mislocated Doc thread)
I guess in the past IBM was using DCF for their z series documentation. Apparently they are getting away from this. Out of curiosity, does anybody know what tool they are using now to create the Information Center abomination? -- Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HMC-SE Interoperability
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Re: IBM documentation - anybody know the current tool? (from Mislocated Doc thread)
On 1/28/2013 7:17 AM, John McKown wrote: I guess in the past IBM was using DCF for their z series documentation. Apparently they are getting away from this. Out of curiosity, does anybody know what tool they are using now to create the Information Center abomination? All IBM documentation is authored in DITA, an XML-based documentation format which transforms easily into Eclipse plugins which are then displayed by the IBM Eclipse Help System (IEHS). http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-dita1/ -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
My Last Days as a Sysprog
I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
All the very best to you and your family Eric! ALH -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 10:26 am Subject: My Last Days as a Sysprog I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM documentation - anybody know the current tool? (from Mislocated Doc thread)
Many thanks! On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 1/28/2013 7:17 AM, John McKown wrote: I guess in the past IBM was using DCF for their z series documentation. Apparently they are getting away from this. Out of curiosity, does anybody know what tool they are using now to create the Information Center abomination? All IBM documentation is authored in DITA, an XML-based documentation format which transforms easily into Eclipse plugins which are then displayed by the IBM Eclipse Help System (IEHS). http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-dita1/ -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM documentation - anybody know the current tool? (from Mislocated Doc thread)
Much zOS legacy doc was in a proprietary SGML (IBMIDDoc). Now a high percentage is in DITA to align with corporate direction. BookMaster and Script/DCF are long gone (mostly) for over a decade. Some program directories and few of the ancient LPS show that lineage. Script/DCF was divested to Ricoh a few years back Kevin Minerley LookAt architect from its inception -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
I'm jealous. Wish I could retire. Thankfully, I only live 15.4 miles from work. Most likely, this will be my last job. When they let me go, I will likely be unemployable due to age and health. My boss says that I might be able to get contract work, as needed, as a sysprog. I did that for about a year when I was only about 40. I did not like it at all. Many problems with actually getting the company to give me any money. I had to walk of the job in the middle of a project, owned over a month's wages, before they paid me. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Aled Hughes aledlhug...@aol.com wrote: All the very best to you and your family Eric! ALH -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 10:26 am Subject: My Last Days as a Sysprog I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
Best of luck to you, Eric. I wonder, would you have stayed on, if your employer allowed you to telecommute? I promise not to rant about it. Really. Cheers,,,Steve Steven F. Conway, CISSP LA Systems z/OS Systems Support Phone: 703.295.1926 steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 01/28/2013 10:27 AM Subject:My Last Days as a Sysprog Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
It's funny, because most people can't work from home, but if they really want you, you can. It's more of I can't do this anymore. It takes me longer to do things, and many things I just can't figure out anymore. Eric Bielefeld Dubuque, Iowa 414-477-7259 - Original Message - From: Steve Conway steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov Best of luck to you, Eric. I wonder, would you have stayed on, if your employer allowed you to telecommute? I promise not to rant about it. Really. Cheers,,,Steve Steven F. Conway, CISSP LA Systems z/OS Systems Support Phone: 703.295.1926 steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
Wish you the best, it's been a pleasure... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: My Last Days as a Sysprog I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
Eric, Wish you the best. If you find that 6 months or a year after leaving that you miss all the stimulating topics on IBM-Main.. we'd love to have you back. Rob Schramm Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: Wish you the best, it's been a pleasure... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: My Last Days as a Sysprog I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
On 1/28/2013 8:36 AM, John McKown wrote: I'm jealous. Wish I could retire. Thankfully, I only live 15.4 miles from work. Most likely, this will be my last job. When they let me go, I will likely be unemployable due to age and health. My boss says that I might be able to get contract work, as needed, as a sysprog. I did that for about a year when I was only about 40. I did not like it at all. Many problems with actually getting the company to give me any money. I had to walk of the job in the middle of a project, owned over a month's wages, before they paid me. I understand that if you are a contractor to a body shop, the body shop is often not paid for 45 days (I hear IBM is one of the culprits here), then the body shop won't pay it's people for another 45 days. 90 days before the worker gets paid is not anywhere near fair, but they got you. Fortunately (knock on wood), I have _never_ been stiffed. But I have had to wait as long as 120 days (accounting and paperwork snafu's on their end, so they say). But lately companies have been paying reasonably quickly. My favorite clients even pay in advance(!). On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Aled Hughes aledlhug...@aol.com wrote: All the very best to you and your family Eric! ALH -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 10:26 am Subject: My Last Days as a Sysprog I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
Eric, Our loss, Milwaukee's gain! Over the years, I have enjoyed your contributions to IBM-Main and hope that you lurk for a little while. With a little luck, you'll find a thread you'll enjoy following. Enjoy your retirement. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: My Last Days as a Sysprog I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited
OK, we finally noticed we had back-level IPLTEXT on the SADMP IPL volume.
Re-generated SADMP, captured the dump, and now IPCS gives us this hate mail:
Dump written by z/OS 01.13.00 stand alone dump - level same as IPCS level
z/Architecture mode system
CPU(0) STATUS available
Stand alone dump required 00:22 to record to SYS1.SADMP.DDS1
28,578 blocks, 118,884,480 bytes, in DSNAME('my.stand.alone.dump')
TIME-04:28:01 PM. CPU-00:00:02 SERVICE-25837 SESSION-01:34:22 JANUARY 25,2013
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PFT not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PFT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PSAVALID not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol IARHVSHR not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PFT not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
***
Looks almost like OA32829, but no BLS18154I messages. The only other hits I
get on IBMLink involve multiple SADMP IPLs, or 28 or more CPUs; neither applies
here. Besides, both of those APARs have PTFs only up to z/OS 1.12.
Any ideas?
TIA,
-jc-
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Re: IBM documentation - anybody know the current tool? (from Mislocated Doc thread)
k60ek...@us.ibm.com (Kevin Minerley) writes: Much zOS legacy doc was in a proprietary SGML (IBMIDDoc). Now a high percentage is in DITA to align with corporate direction. BookMaster and Script/DCF are long gone (mostly) for over a decade. Some program directories and few of the ancient LPS show that lineage. Script/DCF was divested to Ricoh a few years back cms script was done at the science center in the mid-60s as port from MIT's CTSS RUNOFF. some past posts mentioning science center http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech GML was invented at the science center in 1969 (letters chosen because they are first letter of last name of the inventors) and gml tag processing support added to cms script. past posts mentioning gml/sgml http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml one of the earliest standard documents moved to cms script was principles of operation. there was something called the architecture redbook (because it was distributed in red 3-ring binders). principles of operation was a subset of the architecture redbook ... using cms script command-line options, either the full redbook was produced or just the principles of operation subset. after a decade, gml morphs into iso standard sgml http://www.sgmlsource.com/history/roots.htm after another decade, sgml morphs into html at cern http://infomesh.net/html/history/early -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
I understand that if you are a contractor to a body shop, the body shop is often not paid for 45 days (I hear IBM is one of the culprits here), then the body shop won't pay it's people for another 45 days. 90 days before the worker gets paid is not anywhere near fair, but they got you. Like many things in life, it all depends, on: (1) The Contract Agency, (2) How valuable your services are to the client, (3) What State you are working in, and (4) Whether you are on a 1099 or W2 contract. If you are on a W2 contract and you don't get paid in a timely fashion, in many states you can get the State Labor Dept to pursue the agency. If you are on 1099 terms, get a lawyer. If you are smart, you will ensure that your contract has language to make it crystal clear when you get paid and what recourse you have if they are late. Like being able to offer your services directly to the client, terminating your relationship with the agency middleman. Sometimes just the threat of informing the client is enough to get the agency to pay up. Especially true if the client would be in a bind without your services. Since my layoff from my fulltime job in 2008 I have had two contracts. The first was for a NJ body shop. Terms were Net30 on a W2 contract, which in NJ is illegal, but at least during the term of the project I at least got paid more or less on time. But once the project was cancelled, it took the involvement of the NJ Labor Dept and nearly nine months of pressure to get the last two months paid. For the past three years, I have been on a 1099 contract with a local staffing agency here in Des Moines. Terms are Net45, but each and every paycheck has been there when promised. Eric, best of luck in the future. John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 Checkpoint and GRSRNL
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:12:32 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Barbara Nitz kindly wrote: Also, I seem to remember that the checkpoint is always serialized via RESERVE. True. See JES2 Init and Tuning Guide (z/OS v1.12): For the checkpoint data set(s) that reside on a DASD volume, JES2 processing uses RESERVE and RELEASE logic with a software checkpoint lock to prevent JES2 members from simultaneously referencing and updating information kept in the checkpoint data set. I don't see any reason not to change the RNLS, as then JES shouldn't have any reason to even be aware that there is another JES on another system. Perhaps, but also from same book, this quote: For checkpoint data sets residing on DASD, IBM suggests that you add the checkpoint data set(s) to the RESERVE conversion resource exclusion name list (RNL) to prevent global resource serialization (GRS) from limiting access to that data set and degrading performance. A little more digging revealed the following: 1. We have back-level DSNs for the JES checkpoint datasets in our RNL EXCL list; 2. The updated DSNS are unique to each image; 3. Each image has two JES checkpoint datasets, each of which is the only dataset on its respective volume. Thus, there are a total of six JES checkpoint datasets, with six unique DSNs, on six different volumes. It would appear that the only way checkpoint lock contention could arise between z/OS images would be if GRS uses only the QNAME (SYSZJES2) but not the RNAME, or a wildcard RNAME (*). The RESERVE by one system should not have any effect on the other systems, right? Any further insights would be appreciated. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 Checkpoint and GRSRNL
It would appear that the only way checkpoint lock contention could arise between z/OS images would be if GRS uses only the QNAME (SYSZJES2) but not the RNAME, or a wildcard RNAME (*). The RESERVE by one system should not have any effect on the other systems, right? YUP No impact on other images. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JES2 Checkpoint and GRSRNL
Well, that is true in general. However, if you have someone like my manager, who likes to go into QuickRef and do a free space analysis on all on-line DASD, then he might get hung up while the RESERVE is active on a different system. This isn't really a production impact. But it may be an ear-impact when he starts yelling about why the system is so damn slow. With his luck, he would hit each volume just after JES does the RESERVE. grin/ On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: It would appear that the only way checkpoint lock contention could arise between z/OS images would be if GRS uses only the QNAME (SYSZJES2) but not the RNAME, or a wildcard RNAME (*). The RESERVE by one system should not have any effect on the other systems, right? YUP No impact on other images. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
PDF books to Epub
Has anyone run across a nice way to convert PDFs to epub... or some other format that is more display friendly to pads? I was looking to store all my books on a Nexus 7. Thanks, Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDF books to Epub
Look for Calibre. It can convert between most formats. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: 28 January 2013 16:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PDF books to Epub Has anyone run across a nice way to convert PDFs to epub... or some other format that is more display friendly to pads? I was looking to store all my books on a Nexus 7. Thanks, Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by Postini / Google Message Security and the UNICOM Global security systems. This message is for the named person's use only. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDF books to Epub
My Nook (which is basically a lobtomized android) handles the PDFs directly; otherwise, I personally tend to Calibre. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:23:51 -0600, John Chase jonboy...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, we finally noticed we had back-level IPLTEXT on the SADMP IPL volume.
Re-generated SADMP, captured the dump, and now IPCS gives us this hate mail:
Dump written by z/OS 01.13.00 stand alone dump - level same as IPCS level
z/Architecture mode system
CPU(0) STATUS available
Stand alone dump required 00:22 to record to SYS1.SADMP.DDS1
28,578 blocks, 118,884,480 bytes, in DSNAME('my.stand.alone.dump')
TIME-04:28:01 PM. CPU-00:00:02 SERVICE-25837 SESSION-01:34:22 JANUARY 25,2013
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PFT not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PFT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PSAVALID not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol IARHVSHR not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PFT not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
***
Looks almost like OA32829, but no BLS18154I messages. The only other hits I
get on IBMLink involve multiple SADMP IPLs, or 28 or more CPUs; neither
applies here. Besides, both of those APARs have PTFs only up to z/OS 1.12.
Any ideas?
Did you watch the dump run and see the expected messages? In other words,
are you sure the dump was taken properly? Although these days if you take
a stand alone dump of a stand alone dump, I think IPCS tells you so.
Mark
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Re: PDF books to Epub
I have been reading PDFs on my Nexus.. but it would be nice if the text would reformat. I have looked at Calibre and MobiPocket. But the conversion is pretty bad ... unless I want to spend a fair amount of manual (no pun intended) effort on each PDF. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.comwrote: My Nook (which is basically a lobtomized android) handles the PDFs directly; otherwise, I personally tend to Calibre. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
Thanks, John. I think this is a classic example of what I think is a major obstacle standing in the way of the Z system: the answer is easy to find, assuming you already know it. You see, I did not think of my problem as how do I delete all of the members of a PDS? I already knew how to do that. (For a small PDS, 3.1 and D line commands; and for a larger PDS, I would use 3.2 to delete and re-create.) My problem was how do I issue a STOW I without having to write a program? Yes, I might have used Google once I had Lizette's suggestion of using AMS, but FWIW I turned instead to the IBM tool Softcopy Reader. My complaint was about the doc there, not about Google. I think the DFSMS doc team could make the version numbering not muck up the collation without upsetting existing users. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?) Charles Mills wrote: The problem for me starts with the incredibly inconsistent titling, which causes the manual titles to sort in no meaningful sequence, making it doubly hard to find the relevant manual. Many of the IBM bookshelves have this problem, but DFSMS is IMHO the worst. Look at the list below and tell me quick, which one of these manuals will tell you how to use the IDCAMS utility to delete all members of a PDS(E)? z/OS DFSMS Software Support for IBM System Storage TS1130 and TS1120 Tape Drives (3592) SC26-7514-04 snip While I do recognize the problems (who wouldn't?), I must express considerable sympathy for the writers and editors. Why? They cannot win. A comprehensive reorganization of the library could easily cause people who are experienced in a particular area of the system to stumble about for years while perhaps simplifying things for the less experienced in any given area. At the same time, leaving things as-is keeps people who know how to find what they need happier, perhaps at the expense of people who do not. However, the library's organization is not the only way to approach things. The search arguement z/os delete all members of a pds, which I happened to try first on Google, yielded this URL at the top of the results list (watch the wrap): http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r13/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r13.idak100%2Famspdse12.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDF books to Epub
Sigil will do a splendid job of working through common patterns (I use it against some of the Google-based scans of older books as they are often immensely odd straight from Google.) Actually Calibre has several nice clean-up plug-ins that include heuristics; but I can't answer for Nexus 7. The basic Nook reader app for Pubs is OK enough in most cases Several of the office apps also have PDF converter/readers. Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDF books to Epub
On 1/28/2013 9:58 AM, Ray Pearce wrote: Look for Calibre. It can convert between most formats. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: 28 January 2013 16:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PDF books to Epub Has anyone run across a nice way to convert PDFs to epub... or some other format that is more display friendly to pads? I was looking to store all my books on a Nexus 7. Thanks, Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group Here's some links. No idea how they work or what they cost, but to give you some feel for what kind of tools are out there: http://www.desktopauthor.com/buy_offerdnamlsuite.asp http://www.epagewiz.com/ -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
I admit it, I'm lazy. I love the entire bookshelf search feature. However, more and more books are available only in PDF format. I'm unhappy (stronger words would need to censored) that I cannot search an entire extended bookshelf on my on PC. Several years ago, I complained to IBM about the lack of a extended bookshelf search and that more and more books where available only in PDF format. I was told that IBM was working on a solution to that (Product Information Centers). And I have a feeling that IBM is considering making manuals available only via that venue. That way IBM could monitor what you read and provide you customized information (i.e. ads). Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?) One consulted the relevant high-quality master index Or, lacking even enough of a clue to know what sub-product one needed to use, the KWIC (Key Word in Context) index to (believe it or not!) *all* IBM OS/360 publications. On a related topic, am I the only person who accesses the IBM manuals primarily through the Windows IBM Softcopy Reader? It has a very useful entire bookshelf search feature (which is in fact how I finally managed to track down the doc for IDCAMS DELETE). However, the search feature only works on BookManager type shelves, not Extended (which is what the rest of the world calls PDF) shelves. I understand that BookManager books are going away in favor of only PDFs -- is that right? (I notice I have only PDF documents for DB2 V10 although perhaps that is some oversight on my part.) Assuming I am not confused on BookManager shelves going away, how does one now do an all-bookshelf search? Only via the Web? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?) Anciently, there was help in addressing the sort of problem Charles confronted. One consulted the relevant high-quality master index, which told one which publications treated a topic and provided the page numbers of these treatments. Master indices have not been eliminated definitively, but IBM does seem to have cut back very significantly on their production. The relevant one here: DFSMS/MVS Master Index, GC26-4904-00 has not been updated since September 24, 1999, the date of its original publication. Why, I wonder, has this happened? Are they judged too bookish in the age of the internet? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited
OK, we finally noticed we had back-level IPLTEXT on the SADMP IPL
volume. Re-generated SADMP, captured the dump, and now IPCS gives
us this hate mail:
Dump written by z/OS 01.13.00 stand alone dump - level same as IPCS
level
z/Architecture mode system
CPU(0) STATUS available
Stand alone dump required 00:22 to record to SYS1.SADMP.DDS1
28,578 blocks, 118,884,480 bytes, in DSNAME('my.stand.alone.dump')
TIME-04:28:01 PM. CPU-00:00:02 SERVICE-25837 SESSION-01:34:22 JANUARY
25,2013
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PFT not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PFT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PSAVALID not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol IARHVSHR not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PFT not found
BLS18104I Symbol CVT not found
BLS18104I Symbol PVT not found
***
Looks almost like OA32829, but no BLS18154I messages. The only
other hits I get on IBMLink involve multiple SADMP IPLs, or 28 or
more CPUs; neither applies here. Besides, both of those APARs have
PTFs only up to z/OS 1.12.
I would start with
\
STATUS CPU(0) REGS
and
VERBX SADMPMSG
Also, make sure that IPCS is accessing the
IPCS-related parmlib members for the correct release. These
parmlib members would be coming from the IPCSPARM ddname
if you are using one, or your parmlib concatenation
(viewable via D PARMLIB ) otherwise.
If the problem is not apparent, the easiest thing
is usually to open a PMR and send in the dump so I
can look at it.
Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY
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Re: SMF LOGGER Questions
Lizette, I already had WRITE statements in the ACS routines but added some at the very front of the DC routine. I received nothing. In your environment do you have a PROCLIB member for IXGLOGR? We do not. IXGLOGR is started by IXGLOGRS which starts program IXGBLF01. Any insight as to how you have these set up? Garry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
XKS or eXtended shelf search when the individual content has been indexed with the ALS (advanced linguistic search), does work well as it follows many of the patterns as the BookManager search. The problem is getting everyone to ALS index each component pub that goes out in PDF form. We now have a check in place that will suggest that the content owner do this indexing when it's ready to go on the final deployment server. We do this check on many of the books that come from a common internal tooling framework. The result will be starting to show up in the field in 2013. The base library of zOS has had this for quite awhile. We are not able to enforce content owners indexing. Those content owners who do ICs only, do not necessarily provide PDFs. All that said, the corporate direction is Information Centers and any follow-on to information centers. Kevin Minerley LookAt architect from its inception Softcopy lead for zOS, zVM, zVSE (was on original team; brought back on after a decade long hiatus). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMF LOGGER Questions
As I said previously, we use a CF structure for SMF logger, but I think it's set up similarly for DASD only. We specify the SMS data class 'SMFLOG' in the log stream definition. DEFINE LOGSTREAM NAME(IFASMF.DEFAULT) HLQ(LOGR) STRUCTNAME(IFASMF_DEFAULT) LS_SIZE(32768) LS_DATACLAS(SMFLOG) == LS_MGMTCLAS(NOACTION) STG_DATACLAS(SMFLOG) STG_DUPLEX(YES) STG_MGMTCLAS(NOACTION) DUPLEXMODE(UNCOND) LOWOFFLOAD(0) HIGHOFFLOAD(80) AUTODELETE(YES) RETPD(1) . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Garry Malone garry.mal...@vanderbilt.edu To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 01/28/2013 10:16 AM Subject:Re: SMF LOGGER Questions Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Lizette, I already had WRITE statements in the ACS routines but added some at the very front of the DC routine. I received nothing. In your environment do you have a PROCLIB member for IXGLOGR? We do not. IXGLOGR is started by IXGLOGRS which starts program IXGBLF01. Any insight as to how you have these set up? Garry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:05:39 -0600, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:23:51 -0600, John Chase jonboy...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip ] Looks almost like OA32829, but no BLS18154I messages. The only other hits I get on IBMLink involve multiple SADMP IPLs, or 28 or more CPUs; neither applies here. Besides, both of those APARs have PTFs only up to z/OS 1.12. Any ideas? Did you watch the dump run and see the expected messages? In other words, are you sure the dump was taken properly? Although these days if you take a stand alone dump of a stand alone dump, I think IPCS tells you so. Not I personally, but a colleague, who cut'n'pasted the console output into an internal email: AMD083I STAND-ALONE DUMP INITIALIZED. SCHSET: 0 IPLDEV: ccuu LOADP: ccuu40M1 AMD115I SADMP for z/OS 01.13.00 AMD116I Dump of z/OS 01.13.00 AMD001A SPECIFY OUTPUT DEVICE ADDRESS (1) AMD101I OUTPUT DEVICE: ccuu volser SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 SENSE ID DATA: FF 3990 E9 3390 0C BLOCKSIZE: 24,960 AMD101I OUTPUT DEVICE: ccuu volser SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 SENSE ID DATA: FF 3990 E9 3390 0C BLOCKSIZE: 24,960 AMD101I OUTPUT DEVICE: ccuu volser SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 SENSE ID DATA: FF 3990 E9 3390 0C BLOCKSIZE: 24,960 AMD101I OUTPUT DEVICE: ccuu volser SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 SENSE ID DATA: FF 3990 E9 3390 0C BLOCKSIZE: 24,960 AMD101I OUTPUT DEVICE: ccuu volser SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 SENSE ID DATA: FF 3990 E9 3390 0C BLOCKSIZE: 24,960 AMD011A TITLE= TECH Test AMD005I DUMPING OF REAL STORAGE NOW IN PROGRESS. AMD005I DUMPING OF PAGE FRAME TABLE COMPLETED. AMD005I DUMPING OF REAL STORAGE FOR MINIMALASIDS COMPLETED. AMD029D REPLY W TO WAIT AFTER NEXT FULL SCREEN, ELSE REPLY N; REPLY= w AMD005I DUMPING OF REAL STORAGE FOR SUMMARYASIDS COMPLETED. AMD005I DUMPING OF REAL STORAGE FOR SWAPPED-IN ASIDS COMPLETED. AMD005I DUMPING OF IN-USE REAL STORAGE COMPLETED. AMD005I DUMPING OF REAL STORAGE SUSPENDED. AMD108I DUMPING OF AUXILIARY STORAGE FOR MINIMAL ASIDS COMPLETED. AMD108I DUMPING OF AUXILIARY STORAGE FOR SUMMARY ASIDS COMPLETED. AMD108I DUMPING OF AUXILIARY STORAGE FOR SWAPPED-IN ASIDS COMPLETED. AMD108I DUMPING OF AUXILIARY STORAGE FOR SWAPPED-OUT ASIDS COMPLETED. AMD056I DUMPING OF AUXILIARY STORAGE COMPLETED. AMD005I DUMPING OF REAL STORAGE RESUMED. AMD095I REAL DUMP 63% COMPLETED. TOTAL MEGABYTES DUMPED: 2,912 AMD005I DUMPING OF AVAILABLE REAL STORAGE COMPLETED. AMD005I DUMPING OF REAL STORAGE COMPLETED. AMD029D REPLY W TO WAIT AFTER NEXT FULL SCREEN, ELSE REPLY N; REPLY= w AMD104I STAND-ALONE DUMP PROCESSING COMPLETED. DEVICE VOLUME USED DATA SET NAME 1 ccuu volser 9% SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 2 ccuu volser 9% SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 3 ccuu volser 9% SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 4 ccuu volser 9% SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 5 ccuu volser 12% SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 Looks book to me. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
I don't know much about Information Center. But I would likely be tempted to use wget or curl to clone the entire web site. Probably not within IBM's terms of service, but there are ways to slow down the cloning so that it does not swamp the site. However, once I had done that, I don't really know what I'd do with the data. Part of my dislike is that I sometimes just don't get the best response time. Of course, the Internet does not have any kind of guaranteed quality of service. Too many different paths possible. Another thing I don't like is being dependent on _our_ LAN people for Internet access. Especially during off hours, like the weekends. -- Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc
On 1/28/2013 11:29 AM, John McKown wrote: I don't know much about Information Center. But I would likely be tempted to use wget or curl to clone the entire web site. Probably not within IBM's terms of service, but there are ways to slow down the cloning so that it does not swamp the site. However, once I had done that, I don't really know what I'd do with the data. Part of my dislike is that I sometimes just don't get the best response time. Of course, the Internet does not have any kind of guaranteed quality of service. Too many different paths possible. Another thing I don't like is being dependent on _our_ LAN people for Internet access. Especially during off hours, like the weekends. Off hours? You have off hours? Luxury! You should work for my boss: he's always working. Oh, wait. That's me. Never mind. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
On 1/28/2013 10:29 AM, John McKown wrote: I don't know much about Information Center. But I would likely be tempted to use wget or curl to clone the entire web site. Probably not within IBM's terms of service, but there are ways to slow down the cloning so that it does not swamp the site. However, once I had done that, I don't really know what I'd do with the data. Part of my dislike is that I sometimes just don't get the best response time. Of course, the Internet does not have any kind of guaranteed quality of service. Too many different paths possible. Another thing I don't like is being dependent on _our_ LAN people for Internet access. Especially during off hours, like the weekends. We run an InfoCenter on z/OS. It has many of IBM's books as well as ours. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com Date: 01/28/2013 12:10 PM I admit it, I'm lazy. I love the entire bookshelf search feature. However, more and more books are available only in PDF format. I'm unhappy (stronger words would need to censored) that I cannot search an entire extended bookshelf on my on PC. Several years ago, I complained to IBM about the lack of a extended bookshelf search and that more and more books where available only in PDF format. SNIPPAGE I use Adobe Reader. It has a find function that works within a document. It also has a SEARCH feature that acts on a directory. I make large use of search when I need to know something that I know is not in an index. And, yes, I actually do download the whole pdf list to my computer. It comes in very handy when I am on a flight, or otherwise do not have Internet access and am trying to figure out how to do something. Regards, Steve Thompson Opinions expressed by this poster do not necessarily reflect the opinions or positions of poster's employer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
How did you get the pages? Is there a zip file available from IBM. Or did you some some method to clone the actual site? What I would _love_ is for IBM to maintain the site in such a way as to allow others to easily clone it, as well as freshen their clone. OK, what I would like is a standard git repository. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software) IMO, it is excellent. Of course, all I can compare it with is CA-Endevor, which makes me shudder, but z/OS SCMs tend to be a bit primitive compared to what I use on Linux. At least, in my not-so-humble opinion. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 1/28/2013 10:29 AM, John McKown wrote: I don't know much about Information Center. But I would likely be tempted to use wget or curl to clone the entire web site. Probably not within IBM's terms of service, but there are ways to slow down the cloning so that it does not swamp the site. However, once I had done that, I don't really know what I'd do with the data. Part of my dislike is that I sometimes just don't get the best response time. Of course, the Internet does not have any kind of guaranteed quality of service. Too many different paths possible. Another thing I don't like is being dependent on _our_ LAN people for Internet access. Especially during off hours, like the weekends. We run an InfoCenter on z/OS. It has many of IBM's books as well as ours. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
No need to curl or wget. The entire sk3t4271 latest edition is downloadable from the Pubs Center. Each pkit (you'd think of them as xks or bks) is also downloadable SEPARATELY from the Pubs Center if you prefer to mix and match. You will need a modern zip utility for the full thing (what was called the collection kit or ckit) as it weighs in at ~7gb. The older zip utility on z will not handle it. If you want a list of the pkit order numbers to ease searching in the Pubs Center (http://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss), send me email. Kevin Minerley (k60ek...@us.ibm.com) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: mainframe selling points
I just saw this tweet from Rich Ptak @PNARICH: Over half of System z 70 NEW customers in 2013 were First-in-Enterprise i.e. brand new users to the mainframe - pretty cool #zin2013 Mike Giaquinto AVP/Principal Engineer CICS Engineering michael.f.giaqui...@wellsfargo.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Aled Hughes Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: mainframe selling points Don The 'analysts' are wrong! This biased article appeared on the BBC who is not known for any opinion/expertise about IBM mainframes - you will also note that no 'person' is attributed to authoring this article. It also quotes Pund-IT who also seem to know nothing about mainframes. Finally, we have a comment from Gartner, a long time advocate of disliking mainframes - I recall attending a Gartner conference back in 1983 when they said 'the mainframe is dead'. I said at the time, 'Long live the mainframe'! Unfortunately, some of IBM's most senior management do not share this view and will always look at the 'bottom line'. However, last quarter's finances speak for themselves. There is a lot of interest in using mainframes instead of massive server farms (zLinux being the key). Maybe our friend Timothy S can chime in here? :-) Cheers ALH -Original Message- From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 1:40 pm Subject: Re: mainframe selling points The article below does not paint a good future for the mainframe...I hope the analysts are wrong. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19399368 == IBM unveils faster, smaller mainframe IBM has unveiled a mainframe computer it hopes will help head off competition from lower cost PC-based servers. It said the zEnterprise EC12 had cost $1bn (£633m) to develop, producing a machine with processing cores 25% more powerful than earlier models. The re-designed machine also had better security and data-analytics tools than older models, said IBM. The launch comes at a time when, analysts say, the mainframe market is experiencing a long-term decline. IBM is by far the biggest seller of mainframes and the machines remain popular with big banks and other organisations that use the large computers for their heavy data-processing needs. Prices for a basic mainframe, which are based around IBM's own silicon chips, start at about $1m (£633,000). Improvements to security, speed and processing power would keep existing customers happy but were unlikely to win IBM new clients, said analysts. It's going to be harder and harder for IBM to find new customers and new opportunities for the mainframe, said Charles King, an analyst with research firm Pund-IT. Rather than buy a mainframe, many companies now rely on banks of cheap PC-based servers for their number-crunching needs. IBM said it would start shipping zEnterprise EC12 computers to customers in September. Market-research firm Gartner said the mainframe market was seeing a long-term decline. It estimated that annual sales would fall in 2012 and keep falling every year until at least 2016. During that five year period the market would shrink by 14%, it said. == -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: mainframe selling points Hello, I'm looking for ideas to add to what I've come up with so far If you are an application and you were deciding what platform you should be developed and run on, what are the KEY items (IE: selling points) associated with the mainframe environment that would steer you to pick the mainframe over other platforms ? IE: I know scalability and availability are factors but other things like ... why DB2 over Oracle, why RACF security over Unix permissions, why z/OS over UNIX (for example) ... any ideas will be appreciated ! ! Thanks, Joe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
Steve - I worked for 1.5 years over a 3.5 years period at 3 different contract jobs. I always got paid just like any other job. Of course, I didn't work for IBM at any of those jobs. John - When I'm in Dubuque, I walk to work - 4 blocks. I like that. There are a lot of people, including my boss, that walk to work. Dubuque has about 60,000 people, and there is a lot of housing within a mile or so of work. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com On 1/28/2013 8:36 AM, John McKown wrote: I'm jealous. Wish I could retire. Thankfully, I only live 15.4 miles from work. . I understand that if you are a contractor to a body shop, the body shop is often not paid for 45 days (I hear IBM is one of the culprits here), then the body shop won't pay it's people for another 45 days. 90 days before the worker gets paid is not anywhere near fair, but they got you. Fortunately (knock on wood), I have _never_ been stiffed. But I have had to wait as long as 120 days (accounting and paperwork snafu's on their end, so they say). But lately companies have been paying reasonably quickly. My favorite clients even pay in advance(!). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
Many thanks! On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: No need to curl or wget. The entire sk3t4271 latest edition is downloadable from the Pubs Center. Each pkit (you'd think of them as xks or bks) is also downloadable SEPARATELY from the Pubs Center if you prefer to mix and match. You will need a modern zip utility for the full thing (what was called the collection kit or ckit) as it weighs in at ~7gb. The older zip utility on z will not handle it. If you want a list of the pkit order numbers to ease searching in the Pubs Center (http://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss), send me email. Kevin Minerley (k60ek...@us.ibm.com) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
Hum, I can't find a place to order a pkit, only individual publications. And, not to come across as cheap (tho I am), the main site seems to indicate that I'll need to pay for the manuals. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks! On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Kevin Minerley k60ek...@us.ibm.com wrote: No need to curl or wget. The entire sk3t4271 latest edition is downloadable from the Pubs Center. Each pkit (you'd think of them as xks or bks) is also downloadable SEPARATELY from the Pubs Center if you prefer to mix and match. You will need a modern zip utility for the full thing (what was called the collection kit or ckit) as it weighs in at ~7gb. The older zip utility on z will not handle it. If you want a list of the pkit order numbers to ease searching in the Pubs Center (http://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss), send me email. Kevin Minerley (k60ek...@us.ibm.com) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Maranatha! John McKown -- Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
I did mention if you need the order number for a particular PKIT to email me ;-) PKIT order numbers were not published until this year. They are usually free for the download (physical media, if available, would be a charge -- most do NOT have physical media these days). For example, the popular z/OS V1R13.0 MVS PDFs shelf which has 76 of the most used BCP (did I show my age) books is SK3T427530. I think the final leaf of the pubs center url for that is: http://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss?SSN=13A1T0012892229152FNC=PBLPBL=SK3T-4275-30PBCEEBO200022077TRL=TXTSRH (If you wanted the bookmanager books, that would be sk3t427630). There are 437 separate pkits (or bks/xks's) on the zos ckit in the last edition. If you want the whole megillah sk3t427130 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
Hi Steve. The last time I used the Adobe directory search, it took more time than I had patience. I have many hundreds of manuals. I'm too impatient, so I think it probably needs an index in order to be quick enough. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?) From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com Date: 01/28/2013 12:10 PM I admit it, I'm lazy. I love the entire bookshelf search feature. However, more and more books are available only in PDF format. I'm unhappy (stronger words would need to censored) that I cannot search an entire extended bookshelf on my on PC. Several years ago, I complained to IBM about the lack of a extended bookshelf search and that more and more books where available only in PDF format. SNIPPAGE I use Adobe Reader. It has a find function that works within a document. It also has a SEARCH feature that acts on a directory. I make large use of search when I need to know something that I know is not in an index. And, yes, I actually do download the whole pdf list to my computer. It comes in very handy when I am on a flight, or otherwise do not have Internet access and am trying to figure out how to do something. Regards, Steve Thompson Opinions expressed by this poster do not necessarily reflect the opinions or positions of poster's employer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: mainframe selling points
I wonder what percent were using z/OS? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Giaquinto Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: mainframe selling points I just saw this tweet from Rich Ptak @PNARICH: Over half of System z 70 NEW customers in 2013 were First-in-Enterprise i.e. brand new users to the mainframe - pretty cool #zin2013 Mike Giaquinto AVP/Principal Engineer CICS Engineering michael.f.giaqui...@wellsfargo.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Aled Hughes Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: mainframe selling points Don The 'analysts' are wrong! This biased article appeared on the BBC who is not known for any opinion/expertise about IBM mainframes - you will also note that no 'person' is attributed to authoring this article. It also quotes Pund-IT who also seem to know nothing about mainframes. Finally, we have a comment from Gartner, a long time advocate of disliking mainframes - I recall attending a Gartner conference back in 1983 when they said 'the mainframe is dead'. I said at the time, 'Long live the mainframe'! Unfortunately, some of IBM's most senior management do not share this view and will always look at the 'bottom line'. However, last quarter's finances speak for themselves. There is a lot of interest in using mainframes instead of massive server farms (zLinux being the key). Maybe our friend Timothy S can chime in here? :-) Cheers ALH -Original Message- From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 1:40 pm Subject: Re: mainframe selling points The article below does not paint a good future for the mainframe...I hope the analysts are wrong. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19399368 == IBM unveils faster, smaller mainframe IBM has unveiled a mainframe computer it hopes will help head off competition from lower cost PC-based servers. It said the zEnterprise EC12 had cost $1bn (£633m) to develop, producing a machine with processing cores 25% more powerful than earlier models. The re-designed machine also had better security and data-analytics tools than older models, said IBM. The launch comes at a time when, analysts say, the mainframe market is experiencing a long-term decline. IBM is by far the biggest seller of mainframes and the machines remain popular with big banks and other organisations that use the large computers for their heavy data-processing needs. Prices for a basic mainframe, which are based around IBM's own silicon chips, start at about $1m (£633,000). Improvements to security, speed and processing power would keep existing customers happy but were unlikely to win IBM new clients, said analysts. It's going to be harder and harder for IBM to find new customers and new opportunities for the mainframe, said Charles King, an analyst with research firm Pund-IT. Rather than buy a mainframe, many companies now rely on banks of cheap PC-based servers for their number-crunching needs. IBM said it would start shipping zEnterprise EC12 computers to customers in September. Market-research firm Gartner said the mainframe market was seeing a long-term decline. It estimated that annual sales would fall in 2012 and keep falling every year until at least 2016. During that five year period the market would shrink by 14%, it said. == -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: mainframe selling points Hello, I'm looking for ideas to add to what I've come up with so far If you are an application and you were deciding what platform you should be developed and run on, what are the KEY items (IE: selling points) associated with the mainframe environment that would steer you to pick the mainframe over other platforms ? IE: I know scalability and availability are factors but other things like ... why DB2 over Oracle, why RACF security over Unix permissions, why z/OS over UNIX (for example) ... any ideas will be appreciated ! ! Thanks, Joe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
Bet if you tried it on only the z/OS V1R13.0 MVS PDFs SK3T427530 PDF shelf (or others among the classic elements and some of the features), you will find the search almost as fast as the BookManager search as they are indexed. Most applications are not (yet) Kevin Minerley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:11:58 -0500, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: OK, we finally noticed we had back-level IPLTEXT on the SADMP IPL volume. Re-generated SADMP, captured the dump, and now IPCS gives us this hate mail: [ snip ] I would start with \ STATUS CPU(0) REGS CPU(X'000') STATUS: BLS18100I NOCPU ASID(X'0001') FDBF48 not available for CVT BLS18104I Symbol LCCAVT not found BLS18104I Symbol LCCA0 not found BLS18058I Warnings regarding STRUCTURE(Ascb) at NOCPU ASID(X'0001') FDA500: BLS18300IStorage not in dump BLS18100I NOCPU ASID(X'0001') FDA500 not available for LCCA0 PSW=0706 No work wait BLS18100I NOCPU ASID(X'0001') FDBF44 not available for CVT BLS18104I Symbol PCCAVT not found BLS18104I Symbol PCCA0 not found Storage access could not read block at 026920E8 for CLTE No storage areas were passed or obtained, formatting is terminated. CURRENT FRR STACK IS: SVC PREVIOUS FRR STACK(S): NORMAL General purpose register values 0-1 _ C000_ 2-3 0002D048_ C000_ 4-5 4000_ 8000_ 6-7 _ _ 8-9 8000_ _ 10-11 _ 8000_ 12-13 8000_ _ 14-15 4000_ 8000_ Access register values 0-3 4-7 8-11 12-15 Control register values 0-1 _DF88EE70 _7CC69007 2-3 _7ED26FC0 0001_0001 4-5 0001_00010001 _07E29040 6-7 _FE00 _7CC69007 8-9 _ _ 10-11 _ _ 12-13 _85B7ADBC _7CC69007 14-15 _DF882EB2 _027AF010 The No work wait is kind of surprising. and VERBX SADMPMSG A couple instances of n MESSAGE BUFFERS MISSING (total of 6), but otherwise lists just about all the active ASIDs being processed. Also, make sure that IPCS is accessing the IPCS-related parmlib members for the correct release. These parmlib members would be coming from the IPCSPARM ddname if you are using one, or your parmlib concatenation (viewable via D PARMLIB ) otherwise. Verified that only the IBM-supplied, unmodified IPCSPR00 and BLSCECT(X) are in the parmlib concatenation. We don't have a BLSCUSER member at all. If the problem is not apparent, the easiest thing is usually to open a PMR and send in the dump so I can look at it. That seems the best option at this point. So, it will be coming at you shortly, Sev 3. Thanks, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DS8300 HMC WEBUI logon is forced closed
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Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
Hi John, I employ the same strategy you related. Google seems to do quite well with the question format. When Google doesn't give the results I want, I add site:IBM.com or site:redbooks.IBM.com on to the search. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:57 AM, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote: Charles Mills wrote: The problem for me starts with the incredibly inconsistent titling, which causes the manual titles to sort in no meaningful sequence, making it doubly hard to find the relevant manual. Many of the IBM bookshelves have this problem, but DFSMS is IMHO the worst. Look at the list below and tell me quick, which one of these manuals will tell you how to use the IDCAMS utility to delete all members of a PDS(E)? z/OS DFSMS Software Support for IBM System Storage TS1130 and TS1120 Tape Drives (3592)SC26-7514-04 snip While I do recognize the problems (who wouldn't?), I must express considerable sympathy for the writers and editors. Why? They cannot win. A comprehensive reorganization of the library could easily cause people who are experienced in a particular area of the system to stumble about for years while perhaps simplifying things for the less experienced in any given area. At the same time, leaving things as-is keeps people who know how to find what they need happier, perhaps at the expense of people who do not. However, the library's organization is not the only way to approach things. The search arguement z/os delete all members of a pds, which I happened to try first on Google, yielded this URL at the top of the results list (watch the wrap): http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r13/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r13.idak100%2Famspdse12.htm The topic it points to is Using the access method services DELETE command to delete all members of a PDS or PDSE. That same topic is the third hit with the second argument I tried, which was how do I delete all members of a pds? It rises back to the top with my third try, how do I delete all members of a pds on z/OS? This is not meant to excuse anything, but it seems an effective coping strategy that is reasonably independent of how we might choose to organize the information. YMMV, of course. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z12EC
Rob, If you do not already have a copy of the redbook IBM zEnterprise EC12 technical introduction, SG24-8050, you should look at it. The last time I did so, in August of last year, it wasa still in [clean] draft form, but it may well have been published by now. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
The series are more-or-less cumulative within a given release at the BCP level, so using the r13 is probably fine for the MVS shelf. LE probably has the COBOL (at a later level) PKIT Pubno: SK3T428918 Title : z/OS V1R13.0 Language Environment PDFs As for CICS/TS PKIT Pubno: SK3T696705 Title : CICS Transaction Server for z/OS V3.1 Online Library PKIT Pubno: SK3T696809 Title : CICS Transaction Server for z/OS V3.1 PDFs PKIT Pubno: SK3T697304 (sorry, but CICS is not regularly updating anything but their ICs.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited
A couple instances of n MESSAGE BUFFERS MISSING (total of 6), but
otherwise lists just about all the active ASIDs being processed.
This, along with the other symptoms, suggests that IPCS
is not seeing the data from all of the volumes.
IPCS said:
28,578 blocks, 118,884,480 bytes, in DSNAME('SYS1.SADMP.DDS1 ')
That's around 188 megabytes.
SADMP said:
AMD095I REAL DUMP 63% COMPLETED. TOTAL MEGABYTES DUMPED: 2,912
You are running IPCS directly against the original multivolume
SADMP output data set. The documentation (and I) strongly recommend
that you should copy that data set with IPCS COPYDUMP, and then
do further IPCS processing against the copy.
Sometimes, running some utility other than SADMP or IPCS
against the multi-volume data set may cause the last volume
indicator to get turned on in the F1/F8 DSCB for some volume other
than the last volume. This will cause subsequent attempts to read
the data set sequentially to not see all of the data. COPYDUMP
will avoid this issue, and improve IPCS performance by merging
the data back into logical dumping order.
With the PTF for APAR OA37350 installed, SADMP should fix
an incorrect last volume indicator each time it takes
a dump.
Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY
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Re: z12EC
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:47:34 -0500, Rob Schramm rob.schr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone seen a design discussion paper for the z12 EC like they did in the IBM Research Journal for the z196? If not the z12EC, what about the zEC12? ;-) (sorry, couldn't resist as I've been buried in zEC12 planning / install ) -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z12EC
Looks like 8050 is the Airplane version while SG24-8049 is the guts at _www.redbooks.ibm.com_ (http://www.redbooks.ibm.com) . Other pubs are referenced in Related pubs, but nothing pointing to Research Journal. In a message dated 1/28/2013 2:57:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, jwgli...@gmail.com writes: technical introduction, SG24-8050, you should look at it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
Eric, Enjoy you retirement. Playing blues sounds good o me, it's amazing how many Sysprogs I have known, and ave known a bunch are creative Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: On 1/28/2013 8:36 AM, John McKown wrote: I'm jealous. Wish I could retire. Thankfully, I only live 15.4 miles from work. Most likely, this will be my last job. When they let me go, I will likely be unemployable due to age and health. My boss says that I might be able to get contract work, as needed, as a sysprog. I did that for about a year when I was only about 40. I did not like it at all. Many problems with actually getting the company to give me any money. I had to walk of the job in the middle of a project, owned over a month's wages, before they paid me. I understand that if you are a contractor to a body shop, the body shop is often not paid for 45 days (I hear IBM is one of the culprits here), then the body shop won't pay it's people for another 45 days. 90 days before the worker gets paid is not anywhere near fair, but they got you. Fortunately (knock on wood), I have _never_ been stiffed. But I have had to wait as long as 120 days (accounting and paperwork snafu's on their end, so they say). But lately companies have been paying reasonably quickly. My favorite clients even pay in advance(!). On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Aled Hughes aledlhug...@aol.com wrote: All the very best to you and your family Eric! ALH -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 10:26 am Subject: My Last Days as a Sysprog I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
StandAlone ICKDSF
Hello all, I haven't found a definitive answer to this: Does the standalone version of ICKDSF support the Integrated 3270 Console? I need to IPL ICKDSF on a z10 and format some DASD and the only thing I have available is the Integrated 3270 console. No 3x74, no OSA ICC, etc. Thanks, Billy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mislocated doc (was: ... STOW Initialize?)
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:07:29 -0600, Kevin Minerley wrote: The series are more-or-less cumulative within a given release at the BCP level, so using the r13 is probably fine for the MVS shelf. snip! Quick, quick! If you're at 1.12 (as we are), how do you find the HLASM Language Reference, which is titled and indexed as: Title: V1R6 Language Ref http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ASMR1020/CCONTENTS They could have done better. In this case, a lot better. (Not contrived; I was actually looking for it an hour ago.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
Eric, I consulted for a lot of years, I sincerely wish you all best in you retirement. Btw I love music too, don't play, my daughter does. Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Jan 28, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. One thing I'm looking forward to is playing in 2 different blues jams, one on Tuesday and one on Wednesday. That's something I really miss now. Tomorrow I'm looking forward to playing. Usually you play about 1/2 hour. There's a lot of people I know there also, so it'll be fun catching up. I think the last time I played in the jam was last summer. I play guitar. I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. I suspect a few weeks after I'm done at work, I'll set my account to nomail. I've learned a lot from many of you. It's also really good to be able to get answers and different opinions when yu have questions. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer 414-475-7434 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: mainframe selling points
I'm not sure that the statements are blatantly false. My career has been based on z/OS (a.k.a. MVS, MVS/ESA, MVS/SP, MVS/SE, OS/VS2, etc.) and System z (a.k.a. z10, z9, zSeries, s/390, s/370, etc.), so I tend to be heavily biased toward z/OS and System z. I love zMan's tag line -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it In the distant past, companies seemed to have selected the best platform (hardware and operating system), then searched for (or wrote) applications to run on it. Now days, companies seem to select the best applications, then acquire the required platform(s) to run them. Of course, that is an over simplification, but it seems to more or less apply to a lot of companies (admittedly not the Fortune 1000 variety). I work for a large hospital that has recently selected a new Electronic Medical Records (EMR) vendor. While their decision process considered the infrastructure, the weight of all the other factors effectively ignored any platform advantages/disadvantages. They were far more concerned about whether the application best meets the needs of the doctors, nurses, clinics, etc. than whether the hardware be the best available. A former colleague brought it to my attention that many hospitals have started switching to the same EMR vendor away from mainframe based applications, and that I should have my resume at the ready. After talking to other former colleagues, I discovered that the hospital industry is not the only industry trying to move to slicker, nicer applications even if they have to switch to another platform. This implies that the software vendor is indirectly selecting the platform. While my analysis is based on antidotal evidence, I believe that the young new developers of these slicker, newer applications want to develop on a familiar platform (i.e., their school did not use a mainframe). They want to choose a platform that minimizes their development cost (again not a mainframe), yet is sufficient for a production environment. Historically, PC, blade servers, etc. simply were not robust enough to handle medium to large companies. PC/blades/etc. have become larger and clustered, etc., so that now days they can handle a large company (this does not apply to the Fortune 1000 variety, because they are beyond large). Therefore vendors seem far more willing to develop for a non-mainframe environment. IBM seems to have extended the mainframe with specialty processors like the IFL processors for zLinux support, and Ensembles for blade support as a hedge against the other platforms. I'm not saying that IBM's mainframe market is about to dry up and disappear. The Fortune 1000 size companies alone will keep the mainframe market healthy for many years to come, but I do think the other platforms are beginning to make a serious dent in the lower side of the traditional mainframe market. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ron Wells Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 8:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: mainframe selling points someone--needs to tell BBC about false statements. From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 01/25/2013 05:47 PM Subject:Re: mainframe selling points Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Card reader / punch, lineprinter, reel tapes, unmounted 3330 disk pack. Things have sure progressed since then. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: The article below does not paint a good future for the mainframe...I hope the analysts are wrong. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19399368 deleted -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access
Re: StandAlone ICKDSF
You can use the OS Messages. SHARE requirement SSMVSE11007 is to Allow z/OS to use HMC integrated 3270 Console for NIP and MCS is status recognized. From the ICKDSF Users Guide and Reference: Prior to IPLing, specify the load parm to indicate the console you want ICKDSF to use. The required format for the load parm for Stand-Alone ICKDSF is 8 characters specified as: CNSL Where 'CNSL' is required as the first 4 characters to ensure residual data in the load parm field is not interpreted as the predefined console. '' indicates the console you want to use and must be either: 'SCLP' to indicate that you want to use an SCLP (or HMC) console. For example, the load parm would be specified as CNSLSCLP to indicate that ICKDSF Stand-Alone should attempt to use the HMC console. Or 'ccuu', where ccuu is the device address of a channel attached console. For example, the load parm would be specified as CNSL0521 to indicate that ICKDSF Stand-Alone should attempt to use the console at address 521. The following rules apply for specifying a 'ccuu': 'ccuu' must be specified as 4 digits (a leading zero is required for a 3 digit device address). The digits must be valid hex digits (0-9, A-F). The device must be a valid supported console in the configuration and must be operational. If the address consists of valid hex digits, ICKDSF will do the console I/O to the device and has no way to check if the device exists, or if it is working, or if in fact it is a console without doing I/O to it. The console must be a 3270 type console (not a printer/keyboard type such as 3215, etc.). When a load parm is specified to indicate a console to be used, and an error occurs attempting initial communication with that device, a disabled wait is loaded to identify the type of problem. The user must correct the problem and re-IPL the Stand-Alone to identify the console to be used. On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:38:16 -0600, Billy R. Bingham brbing...@stx.rr.com wrote: Hello all, I haven't found a definitive answer to this: Does the standalone version of ICKDSF support the Integrated 3270 Console? I need to IPL ICKDSF on a z10 and format some DASD and the only thing I have available is the Integrated 3270 console. No 3x74, no OSA ICC, etc. Thanks, Billy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?
This method while it will do the job is very inefficient when compared to STOW I. The S * D method issues an individual delete for each member while (I think) STOW I just resets the high water mark and resets the first directory entry to be a high value (so all members get their entry placed before it. At 22:43 + on 01/25/2013, EXT-Schwarz, Barry wrote about Re: Utility issuing STOW Initialize?: 3.1 does have a delete all members command. On the command line, enter S * D When it finishes, compress the dataset because the high water mark is not reset. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Utility issuing STOW Initialize? Does anyone happen to know of a utility, TSO command, ISPF panel, or similar function that is commonly available that issues STOW I? (STOW I deletes all of the members of a PDS in one fell swoop. I hoped maybe ISPF 3.1 had a delete all function but no such luck.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: mainframe selling points
IBM blew it 20-30 years ago when they stopped being generous to colleges and
universities. Looking at the short term.
You are SO right!
Shortly after I graduated from Waterloo, IBM stopped that programme; shortly
after that the University of Waterloo dropped COBOL as a requirement for co-op
students.
Bingo! Bango! Bongo! The financial sector (Ontario Toronto, at least) went
elsewhere for co-op, or stopped their programmes, completely.
Now, University of Waterloo computer graduates are PC weinies, web-masters, and
gamers.
University of Waterloo's defence?
We are here to teach. Not to prepare future employees.
BS! I went to Waterloo to become employable with the best credentials available
in the 1970's 80's.
Sorry for the topic drift, but I do think it all stemmed from IBM dropping
their generosity.
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Re: mainframe selling points
Don Williams asks: I wonder what percent were using z/OS? I think you're asking what percentage of new mainframe customers run z/OS. IBM doesn't say as far as I know, but it's over half (greater than 50%) according to what I've read elsewhere. That's in agreement with my anecdotal experience. With respect to the application discussion, I generally agree. Fundamentally IBM is keeping pace or even leading in providing all popular (and even not-so-popular) application hosting environments on zEnterprise, and that's important. (Java is an example where IBM was/is ahead of the curve.) Also, if there's an application that isn't yet on zEnterprise that you'd like to see on zEnterprise, ask the vendor, and ask the vendor to work with IBM. IBM has been increasing its application developer support resources recently, and there's a steady stream of new applications announced every month, every quarter, every year. Timothy Sipples Consulting Enterprise IT Architect (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog
Eric Bielefeld wrote: I'm finally calling it quits. I have this week off, and then I work 2 more weeks. Then I will retire. I find it harder to do my job as I get older. All of the very best for you an your family. Please enjoy your well deserved retirement. I will certainly miss your contributions here. Also, living 170 miles from home 5 days a week isn't much fun. 273 kilometers is certainly not fun. Even if you have the highway for yourself and your company pays for the fuel. This is about 2 and half hours (avg speed 120 km/h) driving just one way. I play guitar. No stings attached? ;-D I'm not sure if I'll stay subscribed to IBM-Main. Please stay! Do Not Go Away! ;-) I will miss you... :-/ Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
