Re: Goodbye and thanks for all the fish

[Carmen Vitullo]

As a co-worker and friend of Bob's I reiterate every word, when he left 
Boeing he left a hole there in more ways than one, I had no idea talking 
to him that he was sick, struggling in any way, he never let it on. his 
friendship and contribution will surly be missed.


thanks Jim for filling in the holes for us.

RIP Bob

Carmen


On 2/10/2023 8:55 AM, Jim Marshall wrote:

Bob Richards will be missed by all up here in the greater DC area.  When I was 
the Data Center Technical Lead at the US Office of Personnel Management, 
2001-2013, after retiring from the Air Force.  I'd read Bob's posts and knew he 
was well qualified.  He and Rebecca were in Atlanta where Bob was working for 
Suntrust Bank.  He was let go and immediately I asked if he would be interested 
to come to this area and work for my Systems Services contractor.  He said yes 
and he was hired, onsite and got to work in no time.  This was in the late 
2000s.

He worked with the team maintaining our z9BC Parallel Sysplex providing a 24/7 
system for the US Federal Retirement & Healthcare Systems and also then OPM did 
95% of all the Federal Background Investigations.  It was an operation covering the 
entire world.  Bob and the team made my Disaster Recovery Plan come true when they 
would fully recover our Sysplex at IBM Sterling Forest NY, in 24 hours with only up 
to 5 seconds of Data loss and be able to run a 72 hour test of our worldwide 
operation without impacting the 24/7 production systems in DC.

Bob did z/OS and really made me look good when the Data Center achieved 5 years 
of Continuous Operations, including all the Database systems with only 
unavailability of our system including all applications for 4 hours per week.  
In 5 years we only had 28 hours of systems unavailability of which 18 hours was 
due to UPS batteries which were 13 years old; non-IT management would not 
spring for the money for new batteries until

I retired in 2013 and tried to get Bob to apply his 8 years of Air Force 
service into a Federal Job but he enjoyed what he did and if hired he'd fill my 
old job which was strictly hands-off despite being an ACE Systems Programmer.  
Bob knew the end was coming but worked up until a week before it was time.

My heart goes out to Rebecca and know she will miss Bob terribly.  He was one 
class act, a knowledgeable professional and fun to be around.   He and the team 
sure did make me look good in the eyes of the CIO, non-IT Management and our 
retirees of which approximately 500K Federal Retirees are located overseas.  
Thanks Bob and to Rebecca for supporting him on all those Sunday Mornings from 
0500-0900 to do upgrades and changes getting all system up by 0900; speak about 
pressure

Jim Marshall, USAF(Ret)

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Re: zOSMF

[Carmen Vitullo]

IIRC that cgf file is built based on what's in the IZUPRMxx member plus 
any local_override.cfg files you provide


Carmen

On 2/9/2023 9:26 AM, Matthew Stitt wrote:

There are two places it is specified.  One is in the configuration directory, member 
"active_configuration.cfg".  The other is in the IZUPRMxx member.  It seems the 
directory member takes precedent, as I had a subsystem running without specifying 
JAVA_HOME in the IZUPRMxx and the subsystem worked without issue.

Matthew

On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 09:04:54 -0600, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:


got ya! I can't recall specifics but I do know I had some issues
migrating due to the userdir location change

I think others have suggested checking for Java 64 bit, the other error
indicated the server could not locate the J8_64 environment

in your IZUPRMxx member do you have JAVAHOME specified?

JAVA_HOME('/usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64')

CWWKB0215E Failed to open /usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so :
CEE3587S A call was made to a function in the AMODE 31 DLL
/usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so from an AMODE 64 caller.

Carmen


On 2/9/2023 8:46 AM, Matthew Stitt wrote:

I still use "/var/zosmf"  My z/OS MF runs on one LPAR only, so that setting is valid.  
"/global/zosmf" is good if you configure z/OS MF to run on multiple LPARs and want to share the 
"../user" information directory.  Also if you have been successful in getting it to run distributed 
in a SYSPLEX.

I do have to run z/OS MF on another LPAR occasionally.  Having it point to 
"/var/zosmf" on each LPAR makes for good isolation when testing or training.

Matthew

On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 12:43:47 -0600, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:


a couple of things I see in your configuration, but without seeing your
parms for the task and the IZUPRM member I cannot really diagnose.

1) at zos2.3 the userdir was moved to /global/zosmf/    from /var/

I think that's what the IZUG084W: message may be stating -

make sure you are using the supplied proc for IZUSVR1, I had a similar
issue moving from z/OS 2.1 or 2.2 that proc pointed to /var/zosmf

unless you're started a local knowledge base server I'd specify KCINDEX=NO


Carmen

On 2/8/2023 12:21 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

I will be at the front of the line that says "I have no idea what is wrong?"



EZZ8342I gethostbyname(MVS1): Unknown host

IZUG300I: The z/OSMF Configuration Utility has started at Wed Feb  8
12:21:15 ES

IZUG084W: Invalid number of arguments:  3 ; expected 4.

WARNING: Arguments received: /ZOSV2R4/usr/lpp/zosmf /MVS1/var/zosmf N

WARNING: Some arguments may be ignored and/or defaults used.

IZUG015I: Arguments in effect:

   : CODE_ROOT = /ZOSV2R4/usr/lpp/zosmf

   : USER_DIR  = /MVS1/var/zosmf

   : TRACE = N

   : KCINDEX   = Y

IZUG348I: Processing of your request has started. This process might

   : require several minutes or more to complete.

IZUG059I: Configuration operation exists as the configuration parameters are
not

IZUG349I: The z/OSMF  Server home page can be accessed at

   : https:///zosmf

   : after the z/OSMF server is started on your system.



CWWKB0215E Failed to open /usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so :
CEE3587S A call was made to a function in the AMODE 31 DLL
/usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so from an AMODE 64 caller.



HOSTNAME('10.10.70.48')



HTTP_SSL_PORT(32217)


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Re: zOSMF

[Carmen Vitullo]

got ya! I can't recall specifics but I do know I had some issues 
migrating due to the userdir location change


I think others have suggested checking for Java 64 bit, the other error 
indicated the server could not locate the J8_64 environment


in your IZUPRMxx member do you have JAVAHOME specified?

JAVA_HOME('/usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64')

CWWKB0215E Failed to open /usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so :
CEE3587S A call was made to a function in the AMODE 31 DLL
/usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so from an AMODE 64 caller.

Carmen


On 2/9/2023 8:46 AM, Matthew Stitt wrote:

I still use "/var/zosmf"  My z/OS MF runs on one LPAR only, so that setting is valid.  
"/global/zosmf" is good if you configure z/OS MF to run on multiple LPARs and want to share the 
"../user" information directory.  Also if you have been successful in getting it to run distributed 
in a SYSPLEX.

I do have to run z/OS MF on another LPAR occasionally.  Having it point to 
"/var/zosmf" on each LPAR makes for good isolation when testing or training.

Matthew

On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 12:43:47 -0600, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:


a couple of things I see in your configuration, but without seeing your
parms for the task and the IZUPRM member I cannot really diagnose.

1) at zos2.3 the userdir was moved to /global/zosmf/    from /var/

I think that's what the IZUG084W: message may be stating -

make sure you are using the supplied proc for IZUSVR1, I had a similar
issue moving from z/OS 2.1 or 2.2 that proc pointed to /var/zosmf

unless you're started a local knowledge base server I'd specify KCINDEX=NO


Carmen

On 2/8/2023 12:21 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

I will be at the front of the line that says "I have no idea what is wrong?"



EZZ8342I gethostbyname(MVS1): Unknown host

IZUG300I: The z/OSMF Configuration Utility has started at Wed Feb  8
12:21:15 ES

IZUG084W: Invalid number of arguments:  3 ; expected 4.

WARNING: Arguments received: /ZOSV2R4/usr/lpp/zosmf /MVS1/var/zosmf N

WARNING: Some arguments may be ignored and/or defaults used.

IZUG015I: Arguments in effect:

  : CODE_ROOT = /ZOSV2R4/usr/lpp/zosmf

  : USER_DIR  = /MVS1/var/zosmf

  : TRACE = N

  : KCINDEX   = Y

IZUG348I: Processing of your request has started. This process might

  : require several minutes or more to complete.

IZUG059I: Configuration operation exists as the configuration parameters are
not

IZUG349I: The z/OSMF  Server home page can be accessed at

  : https:///zosmf

  : after the z/OSMF server is started on your system.



CWWKB0215E Failed to open /usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so :
CEE3587S A call was made to a function in the AMODE 31 DLL
/usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so from an AMODE 64 caller.



HOSTNAME('10.10.70.48')



HTTP_SSL_PORT(32217)


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Re: Goodbye and thanks for all the fish

[Carmen Vitullo]

OMG - I"m so sorry Rebecca, I worked with Bob at Boeing, and reconnected 
to him here on this list, we talked some off list some about our past 
tenure at Boeing but mostly about family, he will truly be missed, again 
so sorry for your loss :(


Carmen

On 2/9/2023 2:40 AM, Rob Scott wrote:

Rebecca

I interacted with Bob many times over the years in IBM-Main and via e-mail and 
he was a true gentleman.

He will be greatly missed.

Rob Scott
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Sorry to see you go. And I too am not a very active member. I read a
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Hope you enjoy your retirement. Or, un-retirement if that is what you
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Re: The Local death of DB2 z/OS --- what is the best way to preserve the data once the mainframe is gone

[Carmen Vitullo]

:) - you'll always have the data

Carmen

On 2/8/2023 1:52 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:

Print it and be done :)


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Behalf Of Tom Longfellow
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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the data once the mainframe is gone

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Not dumb at all.I am between a rock and a hard place.

NO resources on any servers anywhere will be committed to the preservation
of data.
The Mainframe will be powered off 6 months after the last primary application
has left the building.

Usability of the exported data is not managements concern.  User requests are
not important.   ALL DATA MUST GO

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Re: TEAMS usage

[Carmen Vitullo]

+1  :)

uselessness of the meeting.
Carmen

On 2/8/2023 1:21 PM, John McKown wrote:

I use Teams at work on Windows 10 a couple of times a week. No problems
beyond the uselessness of the meeting.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, 11:53 Tony Harminc  wrote:


On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 10:07, Steve Thompson  wrote:

Not everyone runs Windows or a Mac.

I installed Teams on my Linux desktop and did a reboot (since
this is M/S software). Upon starting Teams, it promptly crashed
KDE, requiring a reboot. Which resulted in me doing an immediate
uninstall.

So I was forced to get a Windows laptop just to run the in vogue
software. Why? because I can't seem to acquire W10 so I can run
it under Virtual Box.

[...]

I'm unclear if you're looking for a "solution" or just want to rant
(not unjustified). In my experience Teams runs OK in a browser,
without requiring a Windows-based app to assist it. There were
problems with Firefox but MS and Mozilla seem to have made it work in
recent times. The same has been true of Google Meet. Certainly
performance is better with the MS app, and they are forever trying to
push you to use it, but most features do work directly in the browser.

Did you try joining your meeting in FF, and refusing any attempts to
get you to "upgrade" to an app?

Tony H.

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Re: The Local death of DB2 z/OS --- what is the best way to preserve the data once the mainframe is gone

[Carmen Vitullo]

I can't remember, when I worked for the State and they were moving some 
DB2 data to a SQL server somewhere, I worked with the DBA's and setup a 
Unix process (on Z) and a migration directory for them to unload the 
data using a DB2 utility - IIRC they use a secure FTP process on a 
server to pick up the data, if I can find the procedure I setup I can 
provide this if interested.


Carmen

On 2/8/2023 1:25 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:

That'd be my thought.  DB2 to flat file, then through (probably) REXX to CSV 
format, then download to the PC.  Or get a REXX to read the DB2 tables 
directly, though that's probably slower; I'd think QMF would be faster for the 
first extract, assuming you have a lot of data to process.  If you're not a 
REXXer but do know VBA or VBS, you can convert to CSV after you download the 
flat files, though that may be a little harder.

(So it can't possibly be a dumb answer, Lionel, if both you and I like it.)

CSV...that might be a lot of data.  Is Access an option, instead?  More trouble 
to access (no pun intended) but it does a better job when the bytes are many.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 12:23

May be a dumb answer but can't you migrate the data into a distributed database 
of some sort?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of Tom 
Longfellow
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 11:12 AM

The death warrant on our DB2 for z/OS has been issued.

The people with decades of data stored in the tables are asking the obvious 
questions.How do we see into our ancient history as we have always done?   
My answer is simple: you can't.

The all knowledgeable planners have come up with the idea of  Extract it into 
CSV files and walk away.   I have many concerns about this process that I will 
not go into now.

As a good little worker Bee, I am trying to do what I am told.   Here is where 
the fun begins.  My good friend Google (and IBM) says 'Use IBM Data Studio to 
perform the Extract to CSV utility function.  My installed version of IBM Data 
Studio (V4.1.3)  does NOT have that option in the menus displayed by the 
documentation.

Does anyone have a workable way to Extract DB2 Tables to CSV files?

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Re: zOSMF

[Carmen Vitullo]

a couple of things I see in your configuration, but without seeing your 
parms for the task and the IZUPRM member I cannot really diagnose.


1) at zos2.3 the userdir was moved to /global/zosmf/    from /var/

I think that's what the IZUG084W: message may be stating -

make sure you are using the supplied proc for IZUSVR1, I had a similar 
issue moving from z/OS 2.1 or 2.2 that proc pointed to /var/zosmf


unless you're started a local knowledge base server I'd specify KCINDEX=NO


Carmen

On 2/8/2023 12:21 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

I will be at the front of the line that says "I have no idea what is wrong?"

  


EZZ8342I gethostbyname(MVS1): Unknown host

IZUG300I: The z/OSMF Configuration Utility has started at Wed Feb  8
12:21:15 ES

IZUG084W: Invalid number of arguments:  3 ; expected 4.

WARNING: Arguments received: /ZOSV2R4/usr/lpp/zosmf /MVS1/var/zosmf N

WARNING: Some arguments may be ignored and/or defaults used.

IZUG015I: Arguments in effect:

 : CODE_ROOT = /ZOSV2R4/usr/lpp/zosmf

 : USER_DIR  = /MVS1/var/zosmf

 : TRACE = N

 : KCINDEX   = Y

IZUG348I: Processing of your request has started. This process might

 : require several minutes or more to complete.

IZUG059I: Configuration operation exists as the configuration parameters are
not

IZUG349I: The z/OSMF  Server home page can be accessed at

 : https:///zosmf

 : after the z/OSMF server is started on your system.

  


CWWKB0215E Failed to open /usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so :
CEE3587S A call was made to a function in the AMODE 31 DLL
/usr/lpp/java/J8.0_64/bin/classic/libjvm.so from an AMODE 64 caller.

  


HOSTNAME('10.10.70.48')

  


HTTP_SSL_PORT(32217)


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Re: The Local death of DB2 z/OS --- what is the best way to preserve the data once the mainframe is gone

[Carmen Vitullo]

a couple of processes come to mind, 2 companies I worked for use Change 
Data Capture, once a 3rd party product now part of IBM's WebSphere 
suite, this product can replicate DB2 data to DB2 or SQL sever, the 
other process I saw was a product from Oracle, I don't recall the 
product name but it can also move , replicate data to DB2 in any other 
platform IIRC, SQL or an Oracle DB


Carmen

On 2/8/2023 11:23 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:

May be a dumb answer but can't you migrate the data into a distributed database 
of some sort?


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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: The Local death of DB2 z/OS --- what is the best way to preserve the 
data once the mainframe is gone

The death warrant on our DB2 for z/OS has been issued.

The people with decades of data stored in the tables are asking the obvious 
questions.How do we see into our ancient history as we have always done?   
My answer is simple: you can't.

The all knowledgeable planners have come up with the idea of  Extract it into 
CSV files and walk away.   I have many concerns about this process that I will 
not go into now.

As a good little worker Bee, I am trying to do what I am told.   Here is where 
the fun begins.  My good friend Google (and IBM) says 'Use IBM Data Studio to 
perform the Extract to CSV utility function.  My installed version of IBM Data 
Studio (V4.1.3)  does NOT have that option in the menus displayed by the 
documentation.

Does anyone have a workable way to Extract DB2 Tables to CSV files?

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Re: GIM56401S

[Carmen Vitullo]

I agree

GIM56401W IMHO wold be more appropriate

Carmen

On 2/8/2023 10:27 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:

One of my SMP/e pet peeves. Why does this rate a severe level error message? 
Just issue a warning and get on with your job.

GIM56401S ** XXX HAS ALREADY BEEN SPECIFIED ON EITHER THE SELECT OR EXCLUDE 
OPERAND.

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Re: Shopz

[Carmen Vitullo]

I agree and I've used the ftp route before, my issue is my company will 
not allow ftp period, and using HTTPS from Z needs to be authenticated 
to the firewall so 2 things for me, I have to get authority to tunnel 
thru the firewall to get to IBM, then in the  section I need to 
specify my firewall server I/P and my LAN ID and password.


ftp, so much easier as you've pointed out


Carmen

On 2/8/2023 10:26 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:

On 2/8/2023 7:23 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:

I feel like an idiot asking this question however - How do I pull the
HOLDDATA from Shopz


Typically, if you choose not to use RECEIVE ORDER, you would use 
anonymous FTP to retrieve it from service.boulder.ibm.com. For example:


//HOLDDATA JOB 1,BEAVER,CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=T,NOTIFY=
//HOLDDATA EXEC PGM=FTP
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD *
 service.boulder.ibm.com
 anonymous
 st...@stevebeaver.com
 cd s390/holddata
 locsite recfm=fb lrecl=80
 locsite primary=1 secondary=1 cylinders
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Re: Shopz

[Carmen Vitullo]

that's correct, I schedule weekly a job that receives hold data directly 
to my test LPAR, (z/OS global zone), you need to download a cert from 
shopz first, IIRC there's doc on the site on how to add the cert to your 
security system and some sample JCL.


need a sample?

I have a sample if needed


Carmen

On 2/8/2023 9:31 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

I believe that you can do it directly from SMP, firewall permitting.


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Subject: Shopz

I feel like an idiot asking this question however - How do I pull the
HOLDDATA from Shopz


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for me personally this is a work laptop issue - my systems team had all 
admin rights taken away so we cannot install anything and the MS store 
is not available.


for my personal PC, I really have no need for teams right now.

thanks

Carmen

On 2/8/2023 9:19 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:

You may need to uninstall Teams and then go to the Microsoft App Store and 
install it cleanly. MS has been moving many applications into the App Store 
lately (as have other ISVs).


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that stinks, but even with a company manged laptop W10, teams crashes, does not 
start, will not shutdown... name it teams is not so stable, IMHO not has stable 
as Skype or Sametime was

Carmen

On 2/8/2023 9:06 AM, Steve Thompson wrote:

Not everyone runs Windows or a Mac.

I installed Teams on my Linux desktop and did a reboot (since this is
M/S software). Upon starting Teams, it promptly crashed KDE, requiring
a reboot. Which resulted in me doing an immediate uninstall.

So I was forced to get a Windows laptop just to run the in vogue
software. Why? because I can't seem to acquire W10 so I can run it
under Virtual Box.

Oh, and NO, I was not running as ROOT. I only run as root when doing
installs and certain types of maint.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

On 2/8/2023 9:21 AM, Joseph Reichman wrote:

That’s how we communicate quick messages used to be Skype should be
on your laptop

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 9:20 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:


I'm not familiar with teams.


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that stinks, but even with a company manged laptop W10, teams crashes, 
does not start, will not shutdown... name it teams is not so stable, 
IMHO not has stable as Skype or Sametime was


Carmen

On 2/8/2023 9:06 AM, Steve Thompson wrote:

Not everyone runs Windows or a Mac.

I installed Teams on my Linux desktop and did a reboot (since this is 
M/S software). Upon starting Teams, it promptly crashed KDE, requiring 
a reboot. Which resulted in me doing an immediate uninstall.


So I was forced to get a Windows laptop just to run the in vogue 
software. Why? because I can't seem to acquire W10 so I can run it 
under Virtual Box.


Oh, and NO, I was not running as ROOT. I only run as root when doing 
installs and certain types of maint.


Regards,
Steve Thompson

On 2/8/2023 9:21 AM, Joseph Reichman wrote:
That’s how we communicate quick messages used to be Skype should be 
on your

laptop

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 9:20 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:


I'm not familiar with teams.


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we use teams also, but I think it's part of the office 360 suite ?

for personal meetings I use, sometimes  'meet now' I think it's called

Carmen

On 2/8/2023 8:21 AM, Joseph Reichman wrote:

That’s how we communicate quick messages used to be Skype should be on your
laptop

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 9:20 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:


I'm not familiar with teams.


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Seymour I dont see you on teams

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 9:09 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:


Good luck in your retirement.

FWIW, I got a lot of queries since I accepted my new job, so if you

decide

to go back to the workplace this might be a good time. Are you on DICE,
linkedIn or Monster?

42.


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 While I have not been a very active member, I have been a
very active lurker for years. My 45+ year journey is coming to an end

again

as my employer has picked my retirement date for me. I hope this time to

do

retirement correctly and make it work, previous attempts have failed

maybe

this time I can get it right.



 It has been a pleasure for me to work with Mainframes and
in
my case Mainframe Virtual tape, that last part for most of my last 30
years.
I have learned many things from this group, including many that I would
never use but were interesting.



 Good luck to all and show the world that Mainframes are
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I will be joining you this Friday, been an on and off the list myself, 
I'm sorry that your company decided to retire you before you were ready, 
been there :( -  best of luck to you and enjoy the time you'll get back 
to do whatever you want


Carmen

On 2/8/2023 6:46 AM, carl swanson wrote:

 While I have not been a very active member, I have been a
very active lurker for years. My 45+ year journey is coming to an end again
as my employer has picked my retirement date for me. I hope this time to do
retirement correctly and make it work, previous attempts have failed maybe
this time I can get it right.

  


 It has been a pleasure for me to work with Mainframes and in
my case Mainframe Virtual tape, that last part for most of my last 30 years.
I have learned many things from this group, including many that I would
never use but were interesting.

  


 Good luck to all and show the world that Mainframes are here
to stay

  


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yes, I replied to the OP that I responded too quickly and misspoke  - my 
bad


Carmen

On 2/7/2023 7:02 AM, Allan Staller wrote:

Classification: Confidential

NO. IFASMFDL is used to process logstreams

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yes, SMF logstreams

Carmen

On 2/6/2023 10:33 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:

Good Morning folks,



My question is an IFASMPDP process Logger files?







Regards,





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Re: I want to cry

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Absolutely!
I fall into the last category now :( - went to tech school for data processing, 
RPG and RPG II some COBOL in the 70's
went for my fist job with Chilton Research for a programmers position, I ended 
up being one of those folks you don't want to get a call from.
 I left there and was able to get a job with Sears hoping to be a programmer 
only to get a job as an operator, but I was provided the opportunity to learn 
application level assembler programing, everyone, even my managers and supers 
were assembler programmers, it was then I was taught how to shoot a dump, but 
my ability was limited in assembler, moving on from Sears to other gigs I had 
the opportunity to learn exit routines and update some JES2 MOD's (when IBM 
provided source) but most of my job(s), especially working with IBM was as you 
said, install, adim and debug system and product issues.
Over time I learned how to design and build sysplex systems along with all the 
other  all all the other cool stuff that goes with administering a z/OS SYSPLEX.
most managers now only want us to document (desktop) procedures thinking it's 
so easy just for us to document what we do so the next kid can take over, yeah, 
I'd like to see that.
sorry for the expanded version of my response.
Carmen

On 2/6/2023 12:37 PM, Paul Gorlinsky wrote:

Absolutely! They should be taught how to program and debug first, then the 
constructs of individual languages.

Many of us have programed on all sorts of machines from the IBM mainframe, to 
the IBM PC, 8080s, z80s, Univac 1050-II, Xeon, Arm, etc. and different 
languages from all the of different assemblers, PL/I, COBOL, FORTRAN, BASIC, 
REXX, C, JAVA, et.al.

And can move freely between them.

But alas, even company trained systems programmers AREN'T systems 
programmers... They are installers, administrators, etc. that can't write a 
lick of assembler code ...

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[Carmen Vitullo]

ah crap - i should have verified sorry steve


On 2/6/2023 10:46 AM, Horne, Jim wrote:

No, program IFASMFDL is needed for logstream processing.

Jim Horne
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yes, SMF logstreams

Carmen

On 2/6/2023 10:33 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:

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My question is an IFASMPDP process Logger files?







Regards,





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yes, SMF logstreams

Carmen

On 2/6/2023 10:33 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:

Good Morning folks,

  


My question is an IFASMPDP process Logger files?

  

  

  


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Re: I want to cry

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checking my trash folder, the best place to find your responses, my 
question to "


I didn’t start the off topic discussion but I’m not going to let bullsh*t go 
unchallenged."
*is WHY? *
why do you feel you HAVE TO?
bully?
who cares
go back to your political forum where you can bully people there
- don't bother responding, I will not spend the time sorting thru my trash for 
any response
Carmen

On 2/6/2023 8:47 AM, Bill Johnson wrote:

I didn’t start the off topic discussion but I’m not going to let bullsh*t go 
unchallenged.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Monday, February 6, 2023, 9:35 AM, Lionel B. Dyck  wrote:

It is time to remember that this is a technical forum.


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The World Health Organization rates the US health care system 37th in the 
world. France is rated number 1. The US health care system isn’t even close to 
being better than most. And those social democratic countries get better health 
care for half the costs. I’m also all for higher taxes on corporations that 
currently pay no taxes yet make billions. Even Warren Buffett says taxes on the 
wealthy should be higher.


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Social democratic countries have *MUCH* higher tax rates. Somebody has to pay 
for all of those services.
Social democratic countries have generally poorer medical care

Everything has its pros and cons. You pays your money and takes your choice.

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Social democratic countries have much better quality of lives than America. 
Very few would like pure capitalism. No social security, medicare, military, 
police/fire, public schools, etc. Most people would be making very little to 
benefit the wealthy. Unions fought for the benefits we all now take for granted.


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The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings.  The 
inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. Under capitalism 
man exploits his fellow man. Under socialism it's the other way around. 
CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.

 Original message From: Bob Bridges  Date: 2/3/23  5:10 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
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else.---Bob Bridges,robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313/* The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings.  
The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.  -Churchill */-Original Message-From: IBM Mainframe 
Discussion List  On Behalf Of John McKownSent: Friday, February 3, 2023 17:13Or Visual Basic.--- On 
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Re: Survey - do you have access to GitHub from your z/OS System?

[Carmen Vitullo]

I will, and thank you, I'm not sure I'll be able to keep sysprog work 
out of my mind/blood


Carmen

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Carmen - thank you - did you use the link to the survey so you're response will 
be included.

Retiring - congratulations. May you have many years to enjoy and thank you for 
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I do not

   the first time I tried was when the z/os 2.3 or 2.4  migration guide was 
moved to a workflow ongithub, I was floored I had to use github for 
migration / workflow processing from IBM, why not just provide a workflow with 
my order or provide a link to an IBM site ??

Sorry Lionel, TMI but with only 5 day's left till I retire, I'm getting less 
tolerant to

Carmen

On 2/3/2023 8:18 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:

I'm conducting this survey for the z/OS Open Tools project
(https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/#/) and I will share the results
with the Open Mainframe Project (OMP -
https://www.openmainframeproject.org/)
seeking to know if you installation allows access to https://github.com.

The survey link is: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MT3G3SK

Thank you for your response.

I will review the results as of Saturday morning the 11th of February
and will post the results here.


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I do not

 the first time I tried was when the z/os 2.3 or 2.4  migration guide 
was moved to a workflow ongithub, I was floored I had to use github 
for migration / workflow processing from IBM, why not just provide a 
workflow with my order or provide a link to an IBM site ??


Sorry Lionel, TMI but with only 5 day's left till I retire, I'm getting 
less tolerant to


Carmen

On 2/3/2023 8:18 AM, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:

I'm conducting this survey for the z/OS Open Tools project
(https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/#/) and I will share the results with
the Open Mainframe Project (OMP - https://www.openmainframeproject.org/)
seeking to know if you installation allows access to https://github.com.

The survey link is: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MT3G3SK

Thank you for your response.

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will post the results here.


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I agree with Allan, I manage a small 3 system sysplex but when I started 
all systems had separate USS filesystems, the planning guide points you 
to samples in sys1.samplib to create the sysplex root, system ($VERSION) 
root, the directory structure and sample parmlib members IIRC.


Carmen

On 2/1/2023 8:22 AM, Allan Staller wrote:

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I strongly suggest setting up sysplex file sharing for OMVS. This is pretty 
straight forward. See the USS Planning guide.
Your service mountpoints would then be hung off of a directory in the OMVS 
sysplex root (as opposed to the system root).

HTH,

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I assume you're not zfs file sharing? I usually don't mount etc or dev unless 
I'm doing an upgrade, but if you're not sharing the /SERVICE/ filesystems then 
yes you need to create the mount points first - then remount them on the 
moved-to LPAR

Carmen

On 1/31/2023 12:56 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

I need to move my SMPe from one LPAR to another.



My concern are my MOUNTPOINTS.



My current zFS is ETC with a mountpoint of



/SERVICE/MVS1/etc



Do I need to mount the MP and go create the



/SERVICE/DEV1/etc



Then UNMOUNT and MOUNT it again as /DEV1/etc





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I assume you're not zfs file sharing? I usually don't mount etc or dev 
unless I'm doing an upgrade, but if you're not sharing the /SERVICE/ 
filesystems then yes you need to create the mount points first - then 
remount them on the moved-to LPAR


Carmen

On 1/31/2023 12:56 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

I need to move my SMPe from one LPAR to another.

  


My concern are my MOUNTPOINTS.

  


My current zFS is ETC with a mountpoint of

  


/SERVICE/MVS1/etc

  


Do I need to mount the MP and go create the

  


/SERVICE/DEV1/etc

  


Then UNMOUNT and MOUNT it again as /DEV1/etc

  

  


Regards,

  

  


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+1 for the freeware, even if you don't know all the TCP/IP commands it 
makes it easy to get the info you need


Carmen

On 1/27/2023 4:54 AM, Jantje. wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 16:51:38 +, Shelia Chalk  wrote:


Hello,

I am looking for a report or something that will tell me what ports are being 
used(reserve or not reserve).

We are using the TC/IPI Monitor ISPF Application by Dave Alcock. 
planetmvs.com/freeware/tcpipm.html

Does the job for me... Thanks, Dave!

Cheers,

Jantje.

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starting with z/OS 2.2 IIRC the all the data files for z/OSMF were moved 
from /var/ to /global/zosmf/...


when upgrading, performing maint, the root filesystem needs to be 
mounted rdwr -


I found this out 2 times so far and I don't think that's documented but 
the address space needs to write to that filesystem at first


looks like z/OS 2.1 filesystem configuration, so first what release are 
you at?


looks like the address space is wanting to write to /var/zosmf/configuration

make sure if you've just recently upgraded you have the newest izusvr1 
proc started


Carmen

On 1/26/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

Cross Posted to Main and RACF

  


I am miles out of my depth and have NO IDEA how to get past this one.

  


$HASP373 IZUSVR1  STARTED

ICH408I USER(IZUSVR  ) GROUP(IZUADMIN) NAME(-ZOSMF STARTED TASK ) 408

   /MVS1/var/zosmf/configuration/configuration_planned.cfg

   CL(DIRACC  ) FID(D6E2F5C3C1E301DE00300158)

   INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY TO OPEN

   ACCESS INTENT(-W-)  ACCESS ALLOWED(OTHER  R-X)

   EFFECTIVE UID(009010)  EFFECTIVE GID(004320)

  



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can you send me a email to my personal email IBM-MAIL does not like the 
filesize


petevi...@gmail.com

Carmen

On 1/20/2023 1:36 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

Carmen,

Please, do provide some examples if it is not cumbersome. I'm going to 
check my machine, however it's better to have other data for comparison.



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absolutely

Carmen

On 1/20/2023 1:36 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

Carmen,

Please, do provide some examples if it is not cumbersome. I'm going to 
check my machine, however it's better to have other data for comparison.



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I should have thought about this more before responding :(

IIRC  CPC model, serial # and CHPID makes up all or part of the WWN, I 
can provide some examples if needed



On 1/20/2023 11:57 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

Is there any rule to compute FICON port WWPN in the CPC?

For example the DS8k machines have WWPNs related to port location and 
machine id.



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I've never had a need, but I don't manage our switches any longer, once 
the connection is complete my switch guys, SAN guys register the WWN


Carmen

On 1/20/2023 11:57 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:

Is there any rule to compute FICON port WWPN in the CPC?

For example the DS8k machines have WWPNs related to port location and 
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Vanguard Racf was a tool I used long ago when Racf was not able to 
provide easy reporting.


Carmen

On 1/19/2023 5:26 AM, saurabh khandelwal wrote:

Hello Group,

Hope you doing well.

We have requirement to find any activity detail related to racf user from
last 6 month.

For example, any addition , deletion of user or last access in user of all
users used system in last 6 month or if any user id revoked.

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indeed, ever since Quick-ref provided TSO help also, I rarely use TSO 
HELP - I have created some user based help for site commands.


Carmen

On 1/18/2023 9:58 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
This brings back old memories.  I clicked on the "text" link on your 
page and it comes up with what looks like a file formatted for the tso 
HELP command.  I barely remember the )F and other marks.


)F Function to check access to RACF resource

I don't think I've typed up a HELP member in 30 years.  I wrote some 
TSO commands of course, but well, you know, HELP comes later or more 
likely not at all.


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For asking RACF from a REXX, check RXSAFCHK at 
http://harders-jensen.com.

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+1 - glad you were able to resolve, good info for others on how to 
resolve the issue


Carmen

On 1/17/2023 5:37 PM, Jousma, David wrote:

Glad you got the answer, as I was about to post the same info.   We have it enabled now, 
probably the last 6 months, and right after it was done I got a call from the ibm service 
representative because "he couldn't logon".   Seems like poor design point, but 
I'm sure there is a reason for it.

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Finally got it resolved. It turns out that once the HMC MFA requirement is 
assigned to a userid, the HMC asks for a OTC for every userid, regardless of 
whether it requires the OTC or not. If not, don't enter anything in the field, 
and select logon/login. Once I removed the requirement for MFA on my test id, 
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I looked around - at the older HMC version, tree style I was able to
view my other HMC, maybe it was not defined when we installed our Z15
and the new HMC version was installed but I cannot get to my other
HMCcurrently - I hope someone has an answer for you

for me, I call HELP to my IBM SE and they can do some magic

Carmen

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IDK, I'm remote and don't know anything about the physical layout of that data 
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do you have another HMC? can you access the HMC and remove the MFA
definitions from this alternate HMC?

just thinking out-loud

Carmen

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I really mucked up our HMC. I enabled MFA on the HMC using the HMC as the MFA 
server. Associated one userid with MFA, successfully set that up and logged on 
to the HMC with it. Now, all the other userids, including ACSADMIN are 
requiring an MFA OTP to logon on.

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I looked around - at the older HMC version, tree style I was able to 
view my other HMC, maybe it was not defined when we installed our Z15 
and the new HMC version was installed but I cannot get to my other 
HMCcurrently - I hope someone has an answer for you


for me, I call HELP to my IBM SE and they can do some magic

Carmen

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IDK, I'm remote and don't know anything about the physical layout of that data 
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do you have another HMC? can you access the HMC and remove the MFA
definitions from this alternate HMC?

just thinking out-loud

Carmen

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I really mucked up our HMC. I enabled MFA on the HMC using the HMC as the MFA 
server. Associated one userid with MFA, successfully set that up and logged on 
to the HMC with it. Now, all the other userids, including ACSADMIN are 
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I believe I can remote to one of my HMC's to the other HMC let me check 
and see what options I have


Carmen

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do you have another HMC? can you access the HMC and remove the MFA
definitions from this alternate HMC?

just thinking out-loud

Carmen

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I really mucked up our HMC. I enabled MFA on the HMC using the HMC as the MFA 
server. Associated one userid with MFA, successfully set that up and logged on 
to the HMC with it. Now, all the other userids, including ACSADMIN are 
requiring an MFA OTP to logon on.

HELP

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do you have another HMC? can you access the HMC and remove the MFA 
definitions from this alternate HMC?


just thinking out-loud

Carmen

On 1/17/2023 12:31 PM, Mark Jacobs wrote:

I really mucked up our HMC. I enabled MFA on the HMC using the HMC as the MFA 
server. Associated one userid with MFA, successfully set that up and logged on 
to the HMC with it. Now, all the other userids, including ACSADMIN are 
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I'll get this and send the format to you to your email

Carmen

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Perfect, Thank you very much.

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I can send you the format for our binder account next week if you like
We authenticate a windows AD
Carmen

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Hmm. That's good to know. I didn't even think to use a z/OS LDAP server. I'm 
not sure whether we're running it. I was attempting to authenticate to our 
active directory server, but I'm getting an authentication error. I was hoping 
that someone else is doing the same and could assist on how to specify search 
filter.

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 19:58:32 +, Mark Jacobs markjac...@protonmail.com wrote:

Has anyone setup their HMC to authenticate users to an ldap server? I'm not 
having much luck constructing the search filter that selects the user's entry 
in the directory.

I have setup our System z HMCs to authenticate users to a zOS LDAP Server using 
RACF as the backend and has been working successfully for a number of years.

The DN pattern used in the HMC for RACF is - 
racfid={0},profiletype=user,sysplex= (the '' is the suffix you specify 
in the DSCONF file)

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all the local accounts are still available, line sysprog, and acsadmin, 
sysprog is probobly the only account you can use remotely


Carmen

On 1/14/2023 8:18 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:

On 1/14/23 1:18 PM, Roger Lowe wrote:
I have setup our System z HMCs to authenticate users to a zOS LDAP 
Server using RACF as the backend and has been working successfully 
for a number of years.


I like the self hosted nature.

But what happens when you need to get into the HMC when the LDAP 
server is unreachable for some reason?


Is there a local fall back account that is used?




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ditto! something is afoot, I am suddenly not getting any emails, replies 
- none since Paul (gil)'s email response Saturday on Piping for z/OS


Carmen

On 1/10/2023 10:36 AM, David Cole wrote:
Hmmm. When I go to 
"listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind2301=IBM-MAIN&", I see my post as 
well  as responses from rpinion865 and Matt Hogstrom.


But I am receiving neither their posts nor the echo of mine via email. 
I think something is broken at UA.edu.


Dave






It's been four days since I've received any posts from IBM-MAIN.
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Is anyone there?
Has everyone gone home?
Will this message come back to me?
The silence is deafening



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me too :(  not due to rain - for some reason beyond my control I'm not 
getting any of my responses or any responses to my work email account :(


Carmen

On 1/10/2023 11:43 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
I'm still here, despite my first fiber internet outage (early this 
morning according to my server log).  Most likely caused by a flood 
somewhere nearby.  Here in Southern California I think we've now had 
more rain than in the last 10 years total.


On 1/10/2023 8:39 AM, Farley, Peter wrote:
Sounds like that is the case.  I received multiple IBM-MAIN posts on 
1/7 and 1/8 but none on 1/9, and these from you and others today 
(along with Lionel's ChatGPT poem today - twice).


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well  as responses from rpinion865 and Matt Hogstrom.


But I am receiving neither their posts nor the echo of mine via 
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Dave


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LOL!! in the cloud no doubt

Carmen

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Didn't you get the email?  Everybody in the world converted their mainframes to 
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Re: Is anyone there?

[Carmen Vitullo]

Just got back, after one year one outage - reboot of my fiber router :) 
not bad.


I'm getting posts to my personal email - but for some reason not my work 
email :(



On 1/10/2023 10:20 AM, David Cole wrote:

It's been four days since I've received any posts from IBM-MAIN.
The last one I received was dated 01/06/23.
Is anyone there?
Has everyone gone home?
Will this message come back to me?
The silence is deafening


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Re: [EXTERNAL] ICKDSF

[Carmen Vitullo]

I'm not Steve, but yes, I spoke incorrectly also

Carmen

On 1/3/2023 2:16 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote:

Steve,

Don't you simply mean converting the IXVTOC to an OSVTOC - ie an unindexed 
VTOC?  If my old memory cells are recalling correctly, a CVOL was an ancient 
version of a VSAM catalog from before the ICF catalogs existed.

Rex

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Steve Beaver
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 2:06 PM
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What I have is a couple VOLUMES that are getting LSPACE errors

Basically all the VOLUMES have indexed VTOCS that need to be Converted to a 
CVOL and returned to a indexed VTOC

That the easy part.  The painful part is I will have to the RO *ALL,UCB Offline

Run  the job

RO *ALL,UCB Online

Before anyon is the wiser





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The PURGE parameter deletes the VTOCIX dataset so using the BUILDIX will build 
a new one and not reuse the old, corrupt dataset.

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That will work fine if the existing IXVTOC is good, but what if it is corrupted?


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Steve,

I'm not sure if a CVOL is the same as a non-indexed VTOC (I didn't think so) 
but to remove the IXVTOC, use ICKDSF BUILDIX OSVTOC PURGE which will unindex 
the VTOC and delete the VTOC index.  Then run an ICKDSF BUILDIX INDXVTOC to 
rebuild a new one.

If you have access to the ICKDSF manual, it's under the BUILDIX section of the 
manual.

Rex

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] ICKDSF

I worked in a stop the got sever LSPACE errors.



Can anyone tell me the command to Convert a indexed vtoc to a CVOL and back to 
a INDEXED





Regards,



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Re: [EXTERNAL] ICKDSF

[Carmen Vitullo]

IIRC you can  covert to a CVOL to a IXVTOC without taking the address 
offline, I cannot test this unfortunately


It's been a long time since I've been a DASD guy, but one of my older 
examples I have will rebuild the vtoc - I've used this to resize the 
IXVTOC also



//IXVTOC EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=4000K

//**

//* JCL TO REBUILD INDEXED VTOC AFTER COPYING VOLID TO A DIFFERENT

//* VOLUME.  DO AFTER NEW VOLUME IS MOUNTED.

//*

//* ALSO, FOR DFHSM ERROR 'ARC0404I - RC=00, REAS=00' TO REBUILD THE

//* THE INDEX VTOC.

//**

//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*

//DISK1 DD DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=MVSWK3,UNIT=3380,DSN=SYS1.VTOCIX.MVSWKF,

// DISP=(,KEEP),SPACE=(TRK,(30,2),,CONTIG)

//SYSIN DD *

BUILDIX  DDNAME(DISK1) IXVTOC

/*

On 1/3/2023 2:05 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

What I have is a couple VOLUMES that are getting LSPACE errors

Basically all the VOLUMES have indexed VTOCS that need to be
Converted to a CVOL and returned to a indexed VTOC

That the easy part.  The painful part is I will have to the
RO *ALL,UCB Offline

Run  the job

RO *ALL,UCB Online

Before anyon is the wiser





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The PURGE parameter deletes the VTOCIX dataset so using the BUILDIX will
build a new one and not reuse the old, corrupt dataset.

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That will work fine if the existing IXVTOC is good, but what if it is
corrupted?


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Pommier, Rex [rpomm...@sfgmembers.com]
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Steve,

I'm not sure if a CVOL is the same as a non-indexed VTOC (I didn't think so)
but to remove the IXVTOC, use ICKDSF BUILDIX OSVTOC PURGE which will unindex
the VTOC and delete the VTOC index.  Then run an ICKDSF BUILDIX INDXVTOC to
rebuild a new one.

If you have access to the ICKDSF manual, it's under the BUILDIX section of
the manual.

Rex

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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 1:26 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] ICKDSF

I worked in a stop the got sever LSPACE errors.



Can anyone tell me the command to Convert a indexed vtoc to a CVOL and back
to a INDEXED





Regards,



Steve




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Re: PDS compression needs a new name - defoam? unfoam? degas? I hope someone has a better idea!

[Carmen Vitullo]

:) DEGAS -

Carmen

On 12/21/2022 5:16 AM, David Cole wrote:
The notion of "PDS compression" has a long and time honored history... 
But then along came... well, actual compression!


As we all know, PDS compression has nothing to do with data 
compression. All it does is rearrange the physical location of members 
so as to eliminate the holes (foam? gas?) that has arisen between them.


Historically, we have called that "compression", but in this day and 
age continuing to call it that no longer is an option.


Has anyone come up with a better term that I missed while not looking?





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Re: BPXI043E

[Carmen Vitullo]

sorry I meant to add, from the IBM Doc

Define a larger mount table limit in an alternate couple data set and

issue the SETXCF COUPLE, TYPE=BPXMCDS,ACOUPLE=(xxx,nnn) command.

Dynamically make the alternate couple data set the primary by

issuing the SETXCF COUPLE,TYPE=BPXMCDS,PSWITCH command. Afterwards,

define a new alternate couple data set and then issue the SETXCF

TYPE=BPXMCDS,ACOUPLE=(xxx,nnn) command.

On 12/19/2022 12:59 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

I just got this message and have no idea how to fix the problem

  


BPXI043E MOUNT TABLE LIMIT HAS REACHED limperc% OF ITS CURRENT CAPACITY OF
limtot

Last Updated: 2022-06-29

Explanation

The z/OS UNIX System Services Mount Limit has reached a critical value.

In the message text:

limperc

The percent value when equal or greater than 85%.

limtot

The absolute current value.

System action

The system will continue, but future UNIX file system mounts will not be
permitted when the limit is reached.

  

  









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Re: BPXI043E

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you should be able to change the limit by defining a new bpx couple 
datasets, switch to that new couple DS


ITEM NAME(MOUNTS) NUMBER(x)

Carmen

On 12/19/2022 12:59 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

I just got this message and have no idea how to fix the problem

  


BPXI043E MOUNT TABLE LIMIT HAS REACHED limperc% OF ITS CURRENT CAPACITY OF
limtot

Last Updated: 2022-06-29

Explanation

The z/OS UNIX System Services Mount Limit has reached a critical value.

In the message text:

limperc

The percent value when equal or greater than 85%.

limtot

The absolute current value.

System action

The system will continue, but future UNIX file system mounts will not be
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Re: Rexx function STORAGE with weird behavior on Netview

[Carmen Vitullo]

got ya, thanks - all examples I have show all lower case, I' still suck 
in clists, ;) very little rexx


Carmen

On 12/19/2022 9:29 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

REXX is not case sensitive; it's a matter of style. Those of us who grew up on 
Hollerith cards are more used to upper case, while those who grew up on 
dual-case terminals are more used to, e.g., camel case, lower case.


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I'm not really great with rexx but everything I have, and seen shows all
lower case ?

c2d(storage(d2x( etc

Carmen


On 12/19/2022 7:20 AM, Jack Zukt wrote:

Hi,

My colleagues come to me with a weird situation for which I cannot find an
explanation.

You are probably familiar with the IPLINFO REXX. It works just fine but
there is one system on which, when invoked by NETVIEW, the

CVT  = C2d(Storage(10,4))/* point to CVT */

instruction fails by not returning a value:

IRX0044I Error running ASVTASID, line 42: Function did not return data

As I said before, it works fine on every system and when running under
NETVIEW, except on this one system.

Any ideas where to look for the reason for this behavior?
Thank you all for your help,
Regards,
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I'm not really great with rexx but everything I have, and seen shows all 
lower case ?


c2d(storage(d2x( etc

Carmen


On 12/19/2022 7:20 AM, Jack Zukt wrote:

Hi,

My colleagues come to me with a weird situation for which I cannot find an
explanation.

You are probably familiar with the IPLINFO REXX. It works just fine but
there is one system on which, when invoked by NETVIEW, the

CVT  = C2d(Storage(10,4))/* point to CVT */

instruction fails by not returning a value:

IRX0044I Error running ASVTASID, line 42: Function did not return data

As I said before, it works fine on every system and when running under
NETVIEW, except on this one system.

Any ideas where to look for the reason for this behavior?
Thank you all for your help,
Regards,
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Re: Can I get the true jobname in JCL

[Carmen Vitullo]

I'm not sure this was a question or a statement but yes, I use 
SYS1.STCJOBS and place jobcards for STC's I want to add, accounting info 
or change the msgclass or any other valid jobcard parms.


I learn something almost daily, I didn't know about , good to know

Carmen


On 12/16/2022 10:32 AM, Jay Maynard wrote:


You can now put a JOB statement in an STC PROC?!

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 10:10 AM Steve Smith  wrote:


Well, I've only used the new  for batch jobs, as the old 
seems to work well for STCs.  However!  I found (in MVS System Commands)
the following description of the rabbit hole that is names of STCs:

The job name for a given started task can be assigned based on a variety of

inputs. These inputs are examined in the following order, so that if item
#1 is not specified, item #2 is used. If neither #1 nor #2 is specified,
then #3 is used, and so on.

1. The job name specified in the JOBNAME= parameter of the START
command

or

The identifier specified on the START command.
2. The job name specified on the JOB JCL statement within the member.
3. The device number specified on the START command, or the device
number associated with the device type specified on the START command

or

The device number associated with the device type specified on the
START command.
4. The device number associated with the IEFRDER DD statement within
the member.
5. The member name.

IBM® recommends that you use the JOBNAME parameter rather than an
identifier. If you use the JOBNAME parameter, SMF records, messages, and
automated programs can reflect or react to job status; identifiers can

only

be viewed at a console.
Note: JOBNAME and identifier are mutually exclusive; you cannot specify
both parameters on the START command.


Nothin's simple.  It would be interesting to see how all the options affect
both variables.

sas

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 9:37 AM Colin Paice  wrote:


Wth
S OMPROUTE.OMP4  gives OMROUTE
S OMPROUTE,JOBNAME=OMP4 gives OMP4

I can live with this

Colin

On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 14:31, Colin Paice  wrote:


Thank you .. I'll raise some doc comments, as it is not well

documented.

It is only mentioned in the
*what's changed in 2.3 *
Colin

On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 13:04, Steve Smith  wrote:


This was asked and answered before.  

sas

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 4:07 AM Colin Paice 
wrote:


If I start OMPROUTE.OMP1, or issue Start OMPROUTE,JOBNAME=OMP1, can

I

get

the
OMP1 as a JCL symbol so I can use it to pick up different

configuration

members?
I can crawl around the control blocks and create a symbol - but

want a

supported solution.

If I use  I get JES2.

Colin



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Re: IBM Solutions for leveraging cloud object storage on z/OS

[Carmen Vitullo]

Thank you Greg, Happy Holidays to you

Carmen

On 12/15/2022 1:26 PM, Glenn Wilcock wrote:

I often get asked what solutions are available to leverage cloud object storage 
solutions on z/OS.  I'm working on a slideshow introduction to the solutions 
that IBM offers.  I plan to add a voice-over and some navigational 
enhancements, but wanted to share what I have so far.  Please feel free to 
reach out for follow-up discussions.  (I'm taking the last 2 weeks of the year 
off, so there will be a delay in my response over the next 2 weeks).  Happy 
Holidays and New Year!

(The slideshow is stored on the IBM Community.  When I tested the link, it 
didn't require a log on).

https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/viewdocument/zos-cloud-object-storage-solutions?CommunityKey=3c6c69c1-abde-4ee6-b603-19ef14942e8f=librarydocuments

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Re: Steve Myers whereabouts

[Carmen Vitullo]

Steve WAS a regular on ibmmainframes.com for a long time, I worked with 
Steve back in the 90's @ Boeing, great guy, IMHO a great assembler coder


I was about to ask about Bob Richards, Last I heard he took a spill and 
out out of commission for a while


Carmen

On 12/14/2022 3:21 PM, Sam Golob wrote:

Dear Folks,
Does anyone know how to get in contact with Steve Myers? Please contact me 
off list if you can get in touch with him or you know how to contact him. 
Thanks much.
All the best of everything to all of you.
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Re: dump command not fitting in console

[Carmen Vitullo]

that a great option, I've never used that before, learn something new 
each day


On 12/13/2022 9:17 AM, Jim Mulder wrote:

   Put the parms in an IEADMCxx parmlib member, and then issue
DUMP PARMLIB=xx

Jim Mulder

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we have a dump request from IBM but the command with all the parameters is not 
fitting in the console command line.
any suggestions?
thanks
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Re: dump command not fitting in console

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that's a great point and option

Carmen

On 12/13/2022 8:17 AM, Styles, Andy (CIO GS - Core Infrastructure & IT 
Operations ) wrote:

Classification: Public

The DUMP command invokes a 'dialog' with the system, assuming you don't have 
END as the last parameter. The system will prompt you for more parameters via 
WTORs until you end your reply with END.
  
Andy Styles

z/Series Systems Programmer

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from SDSF?

/ with no parameters will get you a ton of space to fit the command IIRC

if you have access to a system console that would be best

Carmen

On 12/13/2022 8:10 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:

we have a dump request from IBM but the command with all the parameters is not 
fitting in the console command line.
any suggestions?
thanks
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Re: dump command not fitting in console

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from SDSF?

/ with no parameters will get you a ton of space to fit the command IIRC

if you have access to a system console that would be best

Carmen

On 12/13/2022 8:10 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:

we have a dump request from IBM but the command with all the parameters is not 
fitting in the console command line.
any suggestions?
thanks
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Re: Interpreting SEND/RECV CIPHERs

[Carmen Vitullo]

Sorry Phil, the trace I used, gsktrace was suggested by IBM support to 
resolve and issue we had with db2 connections from internal and 
external  sources .


Carmen

On 12/12/2022 12:36 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:

Carmen Vitullo wrote:

gsktrace -
  


Darn. Was hoping for something else to use! Component trace looks tricky.


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gsktrace -

Carmen

On 12/12/2022 12:20 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:

Carmen Vitullo wrote:

I have had great results, clear to understand even for me, using an SSL

TRACE

  


I have documented the process I used if needed
  


Is that gsktrace or the component trace?


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I have had great results, clear to understand even for me, using an SSL 
TRACE


I have documented the process I used if needed

Carmen

On 12/12/2022 12:10 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:

A gsktrace is pretty easy to get and format. If it's an LE application, then
in your LE options you can put:
ENVAR(GSK_TRACE=0X,GSK_TRACE_FILE=/u/fred/myssltrace.file)

  


Otherwise I assume just setting those environment variables should work.

  


Then after you run the thing (and it fails) you'll see a file in that
location. Issue:
gsktrace /u/fred/myssltrace.file > /some/location/ssltrace.txt

  


And you should wind up with a nice, moderately readable trace file. I've
been learning a lot about various TLS errors from tracing our stuff, would
be interested in seeing yours since I might learn something.

  

  

  

  



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Re: XCF Policies, Best Practices

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that was the policy when I started at my current gig, I now manage the 
policies so I usually cycle from CFMRPOL1 - 2 .etc...


activate the new policy (2), if there' issues I just reactivate policy (1)

Carmen

On 12/9/2022 9:16 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:

At $currentjob whenever an XCF policy is changed and stored in the couple 
dataset their standard practice is to replace the current active policy using 
the same name, CFRMPOL as an example, then activate it. IMHO, this is a bad 
practice. I always wrote the updated policy with a new name, then activated 
that. What are y'all doing in this arena?

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Re: Split JES2 MAS

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I've been there before with management on issues similar, but like any 
child - they'll quickly move on, oh look a squirrel' and this will give 
you time to get automation setup correctly and you can test with a lower 
threshold and provide the results to them if they ask, IF THEY ASK :)


JMHO

Carmen

On 12/8/2022 1:45 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:

We have CA-OPS and have put things in place but management isn’t mainframe
literate and may be adamant about splitting.Up to me, I would move on
to something more pressing.

Thanks for the responses.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 1:24 PM Allan Staller <
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Rather than split the spool, (no cold start required IIRC, it might  be
more prudent to limit the amount of output a job can create.

Look up $ESTLNCT(?) in the JES2 manual; Set an appropriate Count and
specify option 2.

When the job exceeds the defined limit (more or less), the job will abend
w/S722.

HTH,

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We have a 3 system plex, with two of those systems, DEV and PROD, in a
JES2 MAS.   We had an incident recently where a development job got into
a loop and used up all spool.  This in turn, caused our PROD system to
come to, basically, a screeching halt.

Management wants to investigate removing PROD from the MAS.

Beyond the obvious cons below, what else am I missing?  Will a cold start
be required?

CONS:
1.  No longer monitor production jobs from DEV 2.  User's will need to
logon to production to check on production jobs 3.  Significant changes to
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Re: Split JES2 MAS

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I think maybe all of us have seen something like this over the years, we 
control this via OPS (automation) two fold


1) pause - quiesce the workload and notify operations / systems when the 
threshold reaches 80%


2) (we don't have a need) but just in case, automation will add a spool 
volume we have spared on the fly.


if you can provide these processes will get better results you will save 
yourself a lot of work in the long run


Carmen

On 12/8/2022 1:16 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
We have a 3 system plex, with two of those systems, DEV and PROD, in a 
JES2 MAS.   We had an incident recently where a development job got 
into a loop and used up all spool.  This in turn, caused our PROD 
system to come to, basically, a screeching halt.


Management wants to investigate removing PROD from the MAS.

Beyond the obvious cons below, what else am I missing?  Will a cold 
start be required?


CONS:
1.  No longer monitor production jobs from DEV
2.  User's will need to logon to production to check on production jobs
3.  Significant changes to desk procedures
4.  May require changes to production jobs and/or CA7 (convert from 
SYSAFF to ROUTE XEQ)


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Re: z/OS equivalent to z/VM's Link Aggregation

[Carmen Vitullo]

I don't recall the specifics but in Z/os you can define the OSA's and 
ports, and depending on the OSA-Express card you have, some have 4 ports 
per card, some have only 2, and if IIRC, on a z15 one for one, but you 
can share across LPARS defined in your IOGEN, and use  a device / 
interface  statement in your tcpip profile.


we use virtual VIPA definition to manage the port usage

if there's something specific you're looking to do, hardware or software 
let us know, that will let us focus on what you're trying to do


Carmen

On 12/8/2022 10:44 AM, Jim Elliott wrote:

I am sure that z/OS must provide a function equivalent to z/VM's Link
Aggregation (where you can share physical OSA ports in a VSwitch), but lots
of Google searches are not helping me. Any suggestions?

Jim Elliott
Senior IT Consultant - GlassHouse Systems Inc.

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Re: Using CATLIST on z/OS?

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there's some doc in the DF/SMS ISMF guide - I've used CATLIST to get a 
quick hard-copy list of a datasets from the line operator, the output is 
placed in your 'userid.ISMF.CATLIST.Dx.Txxx' dataset


Carmen

On 12/6/2022 1:32 PM, Michael Watkins wrote:

'DFSMS Managing Catalogs', V2R5, p.59: 'You can list catalog records using the 
access method services LISTCAT command, or the ISMF line operator CATLIST. 
CATLIST produces the same output as LISTCAT, but places the output in a data 
set that can be browsed.'

'DFSMS Using the Interactive Storage Management Facility', V2R4, tells you on 
p.69 that CATLIST is the name of a CLIST and cannot be abbreviated and 
describes CATLIST on p.141: 'Obtain an IDCAMS LISTCAT output for a particular 
data set.'

Does anyone know where to find more documentation on how to use the ISPF line 
operator 'CATLIST', perhaps with an example?

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Re: z/OSMF

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we do share zfs's but maybe my choice of SERVER options and the 
autostart group was flawed


I really don't have a need to start multiple servers, for testing, I 
take the lazy route, shutdown the prod server for a while, and start the 
new instance on my test LPAR when I need to test.



Carmen


On 12/2/2022 9:42 AM, Michael Babcock wrote:

I could never get a single instance with multiple LPARs connecting to the
same server because we do not share our ZFS datasets, specifically, the one
mounted at /global.

Hopefully I was just doing something incorrectly.  I use 1 server per LPAR
and each has its own autostart group.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 7:46 AM Carmen Vitullo  wrote:


I've only tried this once on my test LPAR when I'm installing a new OS
release or maint, not much success, I've followed the guide but I must
be missing something.

in the started task there's 2 start up options

SERVER=STANDALONE <- I use to test

and

SERVER=AUTOSTART <- i use from prod

there's some IZUPRMxx changes, I can provide some examples of what I've
used for my second LPAR

Carmen

On 12/1/2022 5:49 PM, Steely.Mark wrote:

We have z/OSMF active on one of ours LPAR's. Now we would like to add

another LPAR.

I know their were instructions on how to perform this - I am unable to

find the instructions.

If you have done this and would provide the documentation it would be

appreciated.

We are z/OS v2.4

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I've only tried this once on my test LPAR when I'm installing a new OS 
release or maint, not much success, I've followed the guide but I must 
be missing something.


in the started task there's 2 start up options

SERVER=STANDALONE <- I use to test

and

SERVER=AUTOSTART <- i use from prod

there's some IZUPRMxx changes, I can provide some examples of what I've 
used for my second LPAR


Carmen

On 12/1/2022 5:49 PM, Steely.Mark wrote:

We have z/OSMF active on one of ours LPAR's. Now we would like to add another 
LPAR.

I know their were instructions on how to perform this - I am unable to find the 
instructions.

If you have done this and would provide the documentation it would be 
appreciated.

We are z/OS v2.4

Thank You

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Re: Storage protection keys

[Carmen Vitullo]

On 11/23/2022 9:29 AM, Paul Gorlinsky wrote:

  Engineers always think they can improve upon the works of others.
so true, working for an airspace company many years ago I recall an off 
the wall company called SCS, IIRC, Scientific computer Systems, that 
sold us an engineering solution to compete with Cray, they touted the 
fact all processing was done on one main computer board, one large 
computer board, this, as they said gave them the advantage to 'guess' 
the solutions faster.


the problem, that board failed once and replacing the processing board took 
months :(

Happy Thanksgiving all


Carmen

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Re: EXTERNAL: SAS ODS in the Mainframe environment

[Carmen Vitullo]

me too, I provided Ken one example I had, I suppose he could add an 
OCOPY step to copy from USS to a PDS/E



one example

//SYSIN    DD *

  DATA TEMPA;

  SET PDB.JOBS;

  DATE=DATEPART(INITTIME);

  IF DATE = '05DEC2006'D

  OR DATE = '12DEC2006'D;

  IF SYSTEM = 'CPU3';

  IF INITTIME = '.' THEN DELETE;

  IF JOB = 'INIT'  THEN DELETE;

  JOBSTART = TIMEPART(INITTIME);

  IF JOBSTART LE '17:00:00'T AND JOBSTART GE '10:00:00'T;

  FORMAT ACCOUNT1 $PROJECT.;

  RUN;

  ods csvfile='/u/cvitul/cpu3_dec5.csv';

  PROC PRINT DATA=TEMPA LABEL;

  VAR SYSTEM ACCOUNT1 INITTIME JOB CPUUNITS;

  RUN;

  ods csvclose;

On 11/22/2022 11:26 PM, k.kri...@comcast.net

, it was SAS9 unfortunately where I'm working now does not have any SAS 
so I'm kinda stuck in time


On 11/23/2022 9:11 AM, Horne, Jim wrote:

I've done it to USS files but not to PDSEs.  I'm not sure if you can, but how 
would you read an Excel file in a PDSE from a PC?

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I may still have some samples, if you want let me know

Carmen

On 11/22/2022 12:24 PM, Kenneth J. Kripke wrote:

Hello;

  I realize this is not the correct forum to be asking questions
regarding SAS, but, it appears that SAS-L is no longer available?

The question is as follows:

I would like to produce an XCEL spreadsheet written to a member of a
pre-allocated PDSE.  I have fiddled with the various statements to
accomplish this, but, to no avail.

The type of data to be stored is the result of a PROC PRINT with character
data.  Does anyone else on the list have some experience and suggestions on
this?

  


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Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

[Carmen Vitullo]

interesting, my last gig was working for a large freight company that 
spent many years and tons of $$$'s to replace their mainframes with MFES


no POC was done before spending all this money on a solution that could 
not provide this company a stable environment.


thanks Mark

Carmen


On 11/22/2022 8:25 AM, Mark Regan wrote:

https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/22/ibm_sues_micro_focus_for

  


​Regards,

Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg
CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991),

RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP

Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017
z/OS Network Software Consultant (z NetView, z/OS Communications Server)
Contractor, Checks & Balances, Inc.
Email: marktre...@gmail.com 
LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-t-regan

  

  



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Re: Songs of the IBM

[Carmen Vitullo]

very cool, thanks for sharing Dave

Carmen

On 11/15/2022 11:29 AM, Dave Jousma wrote:

On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 11:03:46 -0600, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:


Had me thinking of the IBM 1403 and possible the 3211 printers - there
was a card deck IIRC and IEBGENER that was used to direct print, that
deck when printed would play a song, I forget now whatr song - it was
possibly something local at my site.

Carmen

There is a link on this page Risky line printer music on a vintage IBM 
mainframe 
http://www.righto.com/2019/09/risky-line-printer-music-on-vintage-ibm.html

to a short youtube https://youtu.be/Lu4SxJqU9I4 video of a old 1401 printer 
playing songs.

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Had me thinking of the IBM 1403 and possible the 3211 printers - there 
was a card deck IIRC and IEBGENER that was used to direct print, that 
deck when printed would play a song, I forget now whatr song - it was 
possibly something local at my site.


Carmen

On 11/15/2022 10:11 AM, zMan wrote:

Most of us probably know about the IBM Songbook, but heres an interesting
outsider take on it:
https://nowiknow.com/how-to-make-corporate-holiday-parties-even-more-awkward/
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Re: Limiting quantity of tape drives used by user

[Carmen Vitullo]

there's the easy way to control resource usage, IIRC this can still be 
done with WLM and workload resource definitions, been some time since I 
worked in a shop that had defined all the mainframe resources and used 
scheduled environments and BMC's CONTROL products to manage workloads 
based on what resource was available and what LPAR these resources are 
defined


Thru-put manager is a great product and the JAL language of how to setup 
rules was pretty easy


very hard, an outsourcing shop I worked at where a combination of  JES2 
exits, CONTROL-M and querying the EDT, then pass the eligible devices to 
CONTROL-M  to manage ALL workloads, tons of places for errors, worked 
great when it worked, most scheduling systems have a way to define the 
resources for the LPARS and managing what runs were, and when is not so 
hard



Carmen

On 11/7/2022 1:01 PM, Dave Jousma wrote:

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 12:46:11 -0600, Paul Gilmartin  wrote:


On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 12:24:21 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:


We had that in production  One step with a huge number of datasets, so
allocates all available tape drives even though only 1 in use at any
one time.


Does UNIT=(TAPE,,DEFER), or perhaps AFF, make a difference?

JES2 or JES3?

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Of course it would.   But these days there are many folks that just know that 
they have to get a job done, not necessarily how to get the job done.   Just 
like coding DCB and space info anymore, this is another one of those things 
that should be able to be externally limited.

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[Carmen Vitullo]

Love the stories, I graduated from Vo-tech as an RPG / COBOL programmer 
thinking I'd get a job easy as a programmer, not so, but a good learning 
experience as an operator they to production control, to now a sysprog.


 I started in 1977 working for a large retailer, no IMS but CICS , SII 
(Senden) or as I think it morphed into, connect direct and D3 (DataLink) 
to poll the stores for cash register data and send markdown and 
inventory data to the stores after that data was processed.


loved 3rd shift at the time.

As an operator if Senden came down we had a blue light that would come 
on in the computer room, blue light special, Monday early AM before the 
stores opened was the time to re calibrate the automated voice response 
system (Wavetech) system for the stores.


so many stories good and bad.

Carmen

On 11/1/2022 12:35 PM, willie bunter wrote:

  I feel nostalgic after I read your post.  Get this, I started in 1978 and I 
worked on an OS/360.  I was an IMS DB/DC tech. running batch (via BMP) and 
batch jobs which updated the database.  One problem I often encountered - the 
IMS/DC would abend because log tapes (dual logging) due to a STC tape drive 
(6250's) had a problem. IMS/DC had to stay down until I had to copied the log 
tape to another because the EOF was not written.  The phones would be ringing 
off the hook because IMS/DC was down.
Those were the days.amen.

 On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 05:50:37 p.m. EDT, Gibney, Dave 
<03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
  
  I just shutdown our z/OS 2.3 system(s) for the last time.

When I came to school in 1976, the computer was described as  "loosely coupled 
370s". My exposure was via remote cardreader/printer.
When I started working here in 1981, there were still folks that had rewired 
boards for what they had before that.
End of 2019, we moved from a 10 year old z9 to MFaaS with FNTS in Omaha.

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Re: z/OSMF PSWI

[Carmen Vitullo]

Seems there always is,

I usually can go 6 months, sometime I NEED to go that long due to our 
environment, now, open enrollment, seems these days if your behind a 
week in maint some part of zosmf or something that relies on that 
interface fails.


Carmen

On 10/21/2022 10:35 AM, Michael Babcock wrote:

There is a PTF for that.  I can’t remember off the top of my head what it
is though.   I had opened a problem on that very thing and IBM did create
the fix for it.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 8:18 AM Carmen Vitullo  wrote:


Friday rant

I've been having problems with JES2EDS on 2 other systems in my PLEX,
once I install maint, or IPL JES2EDS gets the 'JES2EDS cannot locate the
zosmf server, what ? it was working fine before, so why can't I IPL a
system and JES2EDS locate the server again?

   I'm so tired of opening up cases, and researching something for days,
sometimes weeks, I usually just let it fail or ignore these messages any
more, yesterday, I re cycled zosmf on my production LPAR, once back up,
JES2EDS connected, well not by itself, but I had to cancel JES2EDS on
that system, a $SEDS did nothing. who builds stuff like this ?

Rant off

Carmen

On 10/19/2022 7:27 AM, Michael Babcock wrote:


Another issue.  PSWI uses GIMUNZIP which invokes DFSMSDSS via API. We
make all of our ZFS data sets VSAM Extended (EA and REQUIRED). Yes,
this isn't necessary I know but we do have a few that are larger than
the 4GB limit.  Anyway, DFSMSDSS does not invoke the DATACLASS, so
there is no way to assign a DATACLASS.So how in the world do we
make our ZFS data sets VSAM Extended?   What's going to happen when
the root filesystem grows beyond the 4 GB limit in the future?

So far z/OSMF PSWI is not helping.  First, I couldn't select a Target
system but tell it to use a different, existing master cat (like we
could with ServerPac), now this?

On 10/6/2022 10:15 AM, Kurt J. Quackenbush wrote:

As I understand your scenario, you have two z/OS systems, a driving
system (call it A) where the z/OSMF server is running and a target
system (call it B), and you want to install z/OS 2.5 into the
existing master catalog for system B.  Currently you have selected A
as the target system for the deployment.  Unfortunately Software
Management does not have support for installing into an existing
alternate master catalog.  Yes it can install into the driving
system's master catalog, or create and install into a brand new
master catalog, but it does not install into an existing master
catalog that is not the driving system's active master catalog.  As a
circumvention, is B IPL’d?  Is a z/OSMF server running on B?  If so,
then define system B in the z/OSMF Systems task and select it as the
target system for the deployment instead of selecting A.

Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management

Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF PSWI

Okay, more issues.  As I stated, we use a permanent maintenance
volume/system.  With ServerPac, we could define an SSA and have the
SYSRES datasets cataloged in our maintenance systems master cat then
ServerPac would allocate the dataset using an SSA. later it would
generate jobs to remove the SSA.

Unless I’m missing something, this doesn’t seem possible with z/OSMF
because the Modify Catalog section doesn’t let us change the master cat
(even though it says it will).   The only way I see around that is to
rename the SYSRES dataset with the SSA.  Of course we would then need to
create our own rename job to remove the SSA.   Jeez, COME ON PEOPLE!

We were told z/OSMF would provide the same functionality as ServerPac
but I guess not.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 3:28 PM Michael Babcock 
wrote:


We are installing z/OS 2.5 via z/OSMF and are using the Modify
Deployment screens.  We can easily change the volumes, HLQs, etc, but
wanted to modify the Primary and/or secondary allocation and don’t
see a way to do that.

We have a case opened with IBM and have been told there is no way to do
that and no plans for it in the future.   What?We could do that
with
the ServerPac, why not with z/OSMF?   I was under the impression that
z/OSMF would provide most functions that ServerPac provided.

So, is that capability not going to be provided?


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Re: z/OSMF PSWI

[Carmen Vitullo]

Friday rant

I've been having problems with JES2EDS on 2 other systems in my PLEX, 
once I install maint, or IPL JES2EDS gets the 'JES2EDS cannot locate the 
zosmf server, what ? it was working fine before, so why can't I IPL a 
system and JES2EDS locate the server again?


 I'm so tired of opening up cases, and researching something for days, 
sometimes weeks, I usually just let it fail or ignore these messages any 
more, yesterday, I re cycled zosmf on my production LPAR, once back up, 
JES2EDS connected, well not by itself, but I had to cancel JES2EDS on 
that system, a $SEDS did nothing. who builds stuff like this ?


Rant off

Carmen

On 10/19/2022 7:27 AM, Michael Babcock wrote:

Another issue.  PSWI uses GIMUNZIP which invokes DFSMSDSS via API. We 
make all of our ZFS data sets VSAM Extended (EA and REQUIRED). Yes, 
this isn't necessary I know but we do have a few that are larger than 
the 4GB limit.  Anyway, DFSMSDSS does not invoke the DATACLASS, so 
there is no way to assign a DATACLASS.    So how in the world do we 
make our ZFS data sets VSAM Extended?   What's going to happen when 
the root filesystem grows beyond the 4 GB limit in the future?


So far z/OSMF PSWI is not helping.  First, I couldn't select a Target 
system but tell it to use a different, existing master cat (like we 
could with ServerPac), now this?


On 10/6/2022 10:15 AM, Kurt J. Quackenbush wrote:
As I understand your scenario, you have two z/OS systems, a driving 
system (call it A) where the z/OSMF server is running and a target 
system (call it B), and you want to install z/OS 2.5 into the 
existing master catalog for system B.  Currently you have selected A 
as the target system for the deployment.  Unfortunately Software 
Management does not have support for installing into an existing 
alternate master catalog.  Yes it can install into the driving 
system's master catalog, or create and install into a brand new 
master catalog, but it does not install into an existing master 
catalog that is not the driving system's active master catalog.  As a 
circumvention, is B IPL’d?  Is a z/OSMF server running on B?  If so, 
then define system B in the z/OSMF Systems task and select it as the 
target system for the deployment instead of selecting A.


Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management

Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 3:40 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OSMF PSWI

Okay, more issues.  As I stated, we use a permanent maintenance 
volume/system.  With ServerPac, we could define an SSA and have the 
SYSRES datasets cataloged in our maintenance systems master cat then 
ServerPac would allocate the dataset using an SSA. later it would 
generate jobs to remove the SSA.


Unless I’m missing something, this doesn’t seem possible with z/OSMF 
because the Modify Catalog section doesn’t let us change the master cat

(even though it says it will).   The only way I see around that is to
rename the SYSRES dataset with the SSA.  Of course we would then need to
create our own rename job to remove the SSA.   Jeez, COME ON PEOPLE!

We were told z/OSMF would provide the same functionality as ServerPac 
but I guess not.


On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 3:28 PM Michael Babcock 
wrote:


We are installing z/OS 2.5 via z/OSMF and are using the Modify
Deployment screens.  We can easily change the volumes, HLQs, etc, but
wanted to modify the Primary and/or secondary allocation and don’t 
see a way to do that.


We have a case opened with IBM and have been told there is no way to do
that and no plans for it in the future.   What?    We could do that 
with

the ServerPac, why not with z/OSMF?   I was under the impression that
z/OSMF would provide most functions that ServerPac provided.

So, is that capability not going to be provided?


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Re: A Million Years

[Carmen Vitullo]

On 10/17/2022 1:27 PM, Jay Maynard wrote:

Wasn't an official utility, but IPOUPDTE was provided with the CBIPO
software delivery to do that job.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 1:25 PM Steve Beaver  wrote:


A million years ago the  was an IBM Batch Utility to change strings

In a PDS.



Does anyone remember the name of that utility?


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I think this was the same utility provided in the ServerPac package, 
CPPUPDTE



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Re: Can I supress BPXF024I ?

[Carmen Vitullo]

looks pretty much what I have with the exception I have added,

# Everything not directed to

# a destination above, is directed

# to a garbagecan.log (so nothing important

# is lost)

#

*.*;local1.none;daemon.none;auth.none /tmp/syslogd/garbagecan.log

Carmen

On 10/13/2022 11:36 AM, Colin Paice wrote:

Hi Sheila,

I needed to start it.

In my /etc/syslog.conf I have
*.err/var/log/errors
#
*.CPAGENT.*.*   /var/log/CPAGENT
*.TTLS*.*.*  /var/log/TTLS
*.Pagent.*.*/var/log/Pagent
*.TCPIP.*.debug /var/log/TCPIPdebug
*.TCPIP.*.warning   /var/log/TCPIP
*.TCPIP.*.err   /var/log/TCPIPerr
*.TCPIP.*.info  /var/log/TCPIPinfo
*.SYSLOGD*.*.*  /var/log/syslogd
*.TN3270*.*.*  /var/log/tn3270

The message *BPXF024I (*TCPIP*)
says you need a config entry for *.TCPIP

Please contact me offline if you need any more help

Colin


On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 13:16, Shelia Chalk <
03d9384cc8f1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:


Colin,
After you mention this, I have the same problem.  When you found that you
need the syslogd running,  can you tell me what  parms did you change?

Thanks
Shelia C

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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 9:17 AM
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Sheila,

Thanks for your reply. I also found I needed to have syslogd running! I'll
go and change my trace options

Colin

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 13:38, Shelia Chalk <
03d9384cc8f1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:


Look in etc/pagent_TTLS.conf there is a trace option under
ttlsgroupaction. What do you have it set to?   This will get rid of some

of

them.

Then we suppress the messages using a/o from coming out on the syslog
but they still come out on tcpip started task.

Hope this helps.

Shelia c


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I'm trying to get a TENET/PAGENT trace out.  Typical output is

*BPXF024I (TCPIP) Oct  9 15:55:20 TTLS 83951653 : 15:55:20 TCPIP 057*
EZD1286I TTLS Error GRPID: 001F ENVID: 0017 CONNID: 005D
LOCAL: 10.1.1.2..2023 REMOTE: 10.1.0.2..42870 JOBNAME: TN3270 USERID:
TCPIP RULE: TN  RC:  402 Initial Handshake 
005011421D10 

*BPXF024I text: Explanation*

*The text is the contents of the user's write buffer at the time of
the write request is displayed. Messages written to /dev/console by
z/OS UNIX applications appear on the MVS™ console in this message.*


The BPXF024I is not needed...  it tells me what I already know. Is
there a way of suppressing this?

Parts of TCPIP family write these to CTRACE - which is a faff
start writer, start trace... connect to TCPIP.. stop writer, stop
trace, use IPCS ctrace command.

Colin

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Re: HYCD or IOCP

[Carmen Vitullo]

Autoswitch is the term I was thinking, thanks Paul not autoswap (

Carmen

On 10/13/2022 9:24 AM, Paul Gorlinsky wrote:

You should be able to use the AUTOSWITCH option for the drive(s) then ... if 
z/OS

z/VM and z/VSE do things different, for z/VM is mostly a VARY off on one LPAR 
and VARY ON on the other...

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Re: HYCD or IOCP

[Carmen Vitullo]

Great info Paul thank you, we're using a MTL solution from a vendor 
other than IBM, the configuration options you provided was not provided 
to us, thus the configuration we choose


Carmen

On 10/13/2022 8:17 AM, Paul Gorlinsky wrote:

First of all, I am a manufacturer of a Virtual Tape Appliance that emulates 
3480, 3490 and 3590 tapes, z/Appliance. We, like most VTAs that are not IBM's, 
operate as a MTL ( manual tape library ), and we support auto mounting via the 
LDD CCW ( Load Display ). For z/OS, that is the message like MABC001S that real 
devices displayed. The M for mount, the S for SL label and then ABC001 for the 
volume serial number. PRIVAT or SCRTCH for the vol ser indicate that the 
appliance should pull from the scratch list it is maintaining.

Second, as part of the communication process, the LPAR number is sent. This 
information along with the various CCWs that affect ASSIGNMENT, is how we 
manage and communicate with the LPAR OS as to the availability of a DRIVE.

We support up to 254 LPARs, although that is beyond what IBM presently supports.

Now, you can VARY the device to be AUTOSWITCHed. That and configuring via the 
IO/GEN multiple LPARs availability enables the use of a drive for several LPARs.

V 580,AS,ON

This is fine when you are operating a SYSPLEX, because a SYSPLEX typically 
shares the tape pool/vault.

If that is not the case, then configure the VTA with multiple control units or 
devices and limit the scope of the control unit or device to specific LPARs.

For example, with our z/Appliance you can configure a single control unit with 
16 devices and each could be assigned a unique LPAR number and tape pool. Or 
configure 16 Controllers with 4 devices each with each controller assigned to a 
unique LPAR and yet they could all share the same pool if you wanted to do that.

The AUTOSWITCH configuration makes sense with expensive real devices. However, 
with Virtual Tapes, we license by the number of active tape mounts, not the 
number of devices defined. This avoids all the hand shaking that has to be done 
by the OS to locate a free tape device. A process that adds latency to tape 
drives in use.

If you have 4 LPARs and the maximum number of drives you would ever use is 8, 
then define 4 control units with eight devices each and purchase a license for 
8 devices. So even though you have 32 devices defined in the IOGEN, the license 
would defer mounts greater than 8 in this case.

For additional information, please visit our website at 
https://www.atsmigrations.com . Leave a contact and i would be happy to discuss 
the process with you.


Thanks
Paul

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Re: HYCD or IOCP

[Carmen Vitullo]

thanks David, like I said it's been a long time :(, I'm glad for others 
a CF structure is no longer required.


so as far as the OP's question, you only need to define the devices as 
shared, nothing else ?


again thanks

Carmen

On 10/13/2022 8:03 AM, Jousma, David wrote:

Carmen,  IBM reworked how the drives are managed/shared now.  There is no 
longer a need for CF structure, just the IODF definitions.We share all 
drives across all sysplex’s that the VTL is connected to with no problem.  We 
used to do as you do with certain ranges for certain systems.

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of Carmen 
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Date: Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 8:30 AM
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it's been a while since I've used configured tape devices like this but
if I recall correctly you need to define the devices as shared and
define a CF structure to use AUTOSWAP , or a product like MIM to manage
the devices across multiple systems.

at my site using a virtual tape system we have defined 256 devices and
just manage the number of devices we need across 3 LPARS,  all others
are varied offline at IPL time, so one range is online to LPAR1 then
then next range is varied online to LPAR2 and so on.

that for us was an easier option especially with the virtual tape system

Carmen

On 10/12/2022 10:37 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:

What is the PARM/OPTION to allow VTD's to auto swap between LPARS if

That LPAR needs a VTD to satisfy a MOUNT request?



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Re: HYCD or IOCP

[Carmen Vitullo]

it's been a while since I've used configured tape devices like this but 
if I recall correctly you need to define the devices as shared and 
define a CF structure to use AUTOSWAP , or a product like MIM to manage 
the devices across multiple systems.


at my site using a virtual tape system we have defined 256 devices and 
just manage the number of devices we need across 3 LPARS,  all others 
are varied offline at IPL time, so one range is online to LPAR1 then 
then next range is varied online to LPAR2 and so on.


that for us was an easier option especially with the virtual tape system

Carmen

On 10/12/2022 10:37 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:

What is the PARM/OPTION to allow VTD's to auto swap between LPARS if

That LPAR needs a VTD to satisfy a MOUNT request?

  


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Re: Unix System Services migration

[Carmen Vitullo]

that's a better reference - I have a PDF saved on my work PC somewhere, 
but this looks about the same


Carmen

On 9/29/2022 8:05 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:

See "Chapter 7. Sharing file systems in a sysplex" in z/OS 2.5 UNIX System 
Services Planning, GA32-0884-50.


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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Unix System Services migration

How are most shops handling USS management and migration?

For many years, there has been a strong sentiment in my shop against
utilizing USS (security and scalability were always cited as the primary
reasons) and we were only allowed to utilize USS with IBM and ISV software
installs. Things are changing and now there is a strong push to change our
culture around USS. However, we are greatly behind with the times and
inexperienced with best management practices regarding USS migrations.

I'm sure our shop isn't the only site with a similar configuration, but we
have multiple systems for development lifecycles (alpha testing on SYSA and
SYSB, beta testing on SYSC and SYSD, etc). Since USS requires separate
dataset mounts for each system, this makes sharing common resources across
the same lifecycle environment impossible; unless it is read-only (but how
do you update the file system without an outage?). Is there some sort of
management practice that we're missing to achieve the ability to leverage
common resources in USS?

Also, how do you handle migration? Our shop uses CA Endevor. Do you employ
your change management software with USS migrations? If so, how do you copy
directories/folders without outages? For directories/files that can easily
be built with jobs, do you re-run these jobs on each system, or copy these
elements?




Thank you,

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Re: Unix System Services migration

[Carmen Vitullo]

For my site, I eventually setup a shared Unix filesystem, we wanted the 
ability to move workloads from system to system, or allow access to 
shared fileystems from any task, batch or ftp process.


my Serverpac filesystems that came with my order are copied to a shared 
sysplex filesystem. it took me some time to get this setup and managed 
the way we needed but it works well.


the IBM doc

Unix system services planning is where I found all the sample processes 
I needed to setup the shared filesystem and the best practice for 
parmlib and system setup


https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=sysplex-establishing-shared-file-system-in


the process will setup a sysplex root, $version root and a $system root, 
fileystems that are specific to each system are mounted at


/SYSA/local/

all version or ZOS filesystems are mounted off the sysplex root, and for 
us, filesystems that are not part of the OS $VERSION are mounted at


/PLEX1/usr/local/

I'm sure others have some great options that work for them this 
enviorment works great for me


Carmen

On 9/29/2022 7:54 AM, Brian Chapman wrote:

How are most shops handling USS management and migration?

For many years, there has been a strong sentiment in my shop against
utilizing USS (security and scalability were always cited as the primary
reasons) and we were only allowed to utilize USS with IBM and ISV software
installs. Things are changing and now there is a strong push to change our
culture around USS. However, we are greatly behind with the times and
inexperienced with best management practices regarding USS migrations.

I'm sure our shop isn't the only site with a similar configuration, but we
have multiple systems for development lifecycles (alpha testing on SYSA and
SYSB, beta testing on SYSC and SYSD, etc). Since USS requires separate
dataset mounts for each system, this makes sharing common resources across
the same lifecycle environment impossible; unless it is read-only (but how
do you update the file system without an outage?). Is there some sort of
management practice that we're missing to achieve the ability to leverage
common resources in USS?

Also, how do you handle migration? Our shop uses CA Endevor. Do you employ
your change management software with USS migrations? If so, how do you copy
directories/folders without outages? For directories/files that can easily
be built with jobs, do you re-run these jobs on each system, or copy these
elements?




Thank you,

Brian Chapman

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Re: Minor disaster

[Carmen Vitullo]

ouch that sucks, I know if it was a PDS there are tools to get the 
member back, it's not actually gone until you compress, or write over it 
IIRC?


I wonder if the same tools can help, I'd be interested also how to 
restore a member from a PDSE that's GDG like


Carmen

On 9/28/2022 7:00 AM, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote:

Aaargghhh!

I just pressed "D" next to a PDSe member I was editing, instead of "S".

I have generations set up for this PDSe, but I cannot see how to get to the
member I just accidentally deleted.

Is there a way to recover the member?

  




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Re: z/OSMF PSWI

[Carmen Vitullo]

yes I read it, and that would be great if every single client, every 
single site had the same wisdom as you, I've worked at sites where I was 
not the lead z/os or mvs guy, I had no control over what anyone else 
did, and we all paid the consequences updating a live system, acceptable 
or not, I change the allocation to not allocate secondary space period.


my main issue was how the space was defined initially using the 
serverpac dialog, been burnt a couple times during the SP install, so I 
update the space requirements then.


that is for MY site, and my MY way of installing  and maintaining a 
site  IMHO I've seen it done wrong, and things gone bad, and seen it 
done a way that's safe and makes sense, that methodology I adopt.


Carmen

On 9/22/2022 4:02 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:

On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 15:24:58 -0500, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:


why is the Health checker issuing a CSVH0979I message LINKLST SET
LNKST00 data sets allocated with secondary space? if what you say is
valid ?


Did you read the explanation (see below)?  It is a suggestion.   Health
Checker has a very large number of checks and suggestions.  Not every
one applies to every shop or every LPAR.   Neither of the 2 reasons apply to
the systems I maintain and I disable that check except in my sandbox LPARs
because of the reasons I already stated.

Secondary or no secondary no one better be updating a live LNKLST data
set without a very good reason and thinking about the possible consequences.
All changes to the sysres set go in with rolling IPLs and change control.
Our ISV runtime libs are all on a secondary / tertiary sysres volumes and
are indirectly catalogued just like the IBM OS libraries.

=
Explanation:  CSVH0979I has been placed in the message buffer for each
   LNKLST LNKLST set.  It lists all data sets with secondary space
   defined.
 
   IBM suggests that partitioned data sets (PDS's) in the LNKLST be

   allocated with only primary extents, for two reasons.  First, a PDS
   allocated with only primary space defined has only one extent.  This
   makes it easier to stay within the 255-extent limit for an active
   LNKLST concatenation without having to reallocate data sets with
   fewer initial extents.  Second, if a PDS will be updated while in
   the LNKLST set, it can be extended if it has been allocated using
   secondary space. This can cause members to be placed in extents that
   did not exist when the LNKLST concatenation was activated. An
   attempt to access a member in a new extent causes the requesting
   program to abend.
 
   This suggestion does not apply to partitioned data set extended

   (PDSE) program libraries.  A PDSE program library counts as only one
   extent.
  
=



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Re: z/OSMF PSWI

[Carmen Vitullo]

I do the same except all my volumes are mod 54's

I do a volume copy from my target sysres to the IPLable sysres, so the 
only difference is the target sysres is the one I modify (size) before 
it's cloned


Carmen

On 9/22/2022 8:01 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:

We use a permanent maintenance volume that isn’t generally IPL’d from.  I
triple the space and increase dirblks and use no secondaries.   We use mod
27s and could use mod 54s if needed.  So space isn’t an issue for me.  That
res is copied to the other systems during rollout.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 3:13 PM Mark Zelden  wrote:


On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:49:50 -0500, Carmen Vitullo 
wrote:


I've been doing this on my ServerPac for a while, I've even called out
the ServerPac folks about the issue of, why deliver linklist lpalist
datasets with secondary allocation if the linkist does not support it,

Secondary extents are certainly supported in the LNKLST.  What you can't
do is
take a secondary to the "live" LNKLST for a PDS, but you can for PDSE and
pick up the change with an LLA REFRESH or UPDATE.  For LPA libs it doesn't
matter ever since that is only read in at IPL time.

The number of extents in the LNKLST used to be a problem for some systems,
but when
the rules changed in DFSMS/MVS 1.3 to be "255 total extents or less" with
PDSE always
counting as 1 extent, that helped a lot.   I personally want secondary
extents, at
least for some data sets to support applying maintenance.   I always run
SMP/E apply
with COMPRESS(ALL) anyway so it's not going to continually increase and
I'd rather
get a secondary on a few libraries than have the apply blow up, have
allocate a new
larger DSN, copy old to new, rename and restart my apply.  I'm pretty sure
this is
why ServerPac allocations came with secondary extents going back in
history.

Due to 3390-9s geometry being my main sysres volume still, over allocation
from ServerPac (or now z/OSMF) has been more of a problem for me than
under allocation, so when building my local maintenance sysres after
install I have
had to free space on some larger PDS or PDSE files to get everything to
fit and
have spare space on the sysres for maintenance.  Then if something takes a
secondary during apply, I don't care.  The prod LNKLSTs have secondaries on
some data sets on the sysres, but again I don't care.  No one better be
updating
the live sysres anyway except under extreme circumstances.

As usual YMMV and if you are in a shop with 220 LNKLST data sets you
probably
have a very good reason for never wanting any secondary extents even in
your
maintenance environment.


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Re: z/OSMF PSWI

[Carmen Vitullo]

I cannot check the serverpac dialog on my 2.4 system since I've marked 
the order as installed, complete, but checking what some vendors supply 
for PDS's ONLY - I try not to flirt with disaster and I attempt to be 
compliant as much as possible with IBM's rules, not doing so has bitten 
me because I picked up an install from a previous sysprog.


with IBM ServerPac and some vendors, PDS only I am disusing these PDS's 
are delivered to allow multiple extents to be taken


CHECK(IBMCSV,CSV_LNKLST_NEWEXTENTS) - tells me so

HCK detects these linklist datasets and reports on them as an ERROR

CHECK(IBMCSV,CSV_LNKLST_SPACE)

SYSPLEX:    PLEX SYSTEM: SYSx

START TIME: 09/22/2022 14:01:57.366198

CHECK DATE: 20050720  CHECK SEVERITY: LOW

CSVH0979I LNKLST set LNKLST00 data sets allocated with secondary space

IBM suggests that partitioned data sets (PDS's) in the LNKLST be

allocated with only primary extents, for two reasons.  First, a PDS

allocated with only primary space defined has only one extent.  This

makes it easier to stay within the 255-extent limit for an active

LNKLST concatenation without having to reallocate data sets with

fewer initial extents.  Second, if a PDS will be updated while in

the LNKLST set, it can be extended if it has been allocated using

secondary space. This can cause members to be placed in extents that

did not exist when the LNKLST concatenation was activated. An

attempt to access a member in a new extent causes the requesting

program to abend.


that's why I alter the allocation at ServerPac customization and not 
wait till an issue arises


Carmen

On 9/22/2022 3:13 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:

On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 13:49:50 -0500, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:


I've been doing this on my ServerPac for a while, I've even called out
the ServerPac folks about the issue of, why deliver linklist lpalist
datasets with secondary allocation if the linkist does not support it,

Secondary extents are certainly supported in the LNKLST.  What you can't do is
take a secondary to the "live" LNKLST for a PDS, but you can for PDSE and
pick up the change with an LLA REFRESH or UPDATE.  For LPA libs it doesn't
matter ever since that is only read in at IPL time.

The number of extents in the LNKLST used to be a problem for some systems, but 
when
the rules changed in DFSMS/MVS 1.3 to be "255 total extents or less" with PDSE 
always
counting as 1 extent, that helped a lot.   I personally want secondary extents, 
at
least for some data sets to support applying maintenance.   I always run SMP/E 
apply
with COMPRESS(ALL) anyway so it's not going to continually increase and I'd 
rather
get a secondary on a few libraries than have the apply blow up, have allocate a 
new
larger DSN, copy old to new, rename and restart my apply.  I'm pretty sure this 
is
why ServerPac allocations came with secondary extents going back in history.

Due to 3390-9s geometry being my main sysres volume still, over allocation
from ServerPac (or now z/OSMF) has been more of a problem for me than
under allocation, so when building my local maintenance sysres after install I 
have
had to free space on some larger PDS or PDSE files to get everything to fit and
have spare space on the sysres for maintenance.  Then if something takes a
secondary during apply, I don't care.  The prod LNKLSTs have secondaries on
some data sets on the sysres, but again I don't care.  No one better be updating
the live sysres anyway except under extreme circumstances.

As usual YMMV and if you are in a shop with 220 LNKLST data sets you probably
have a very good reason for never wanting any secondary extents even in your
maintenance environment.


Best Regards,

Mark
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Re: z/OSMF PSWI

[Carmen Vitullo]

'A'  secondary extends is supported as long as it is part of the initial 
primary allocation, or an extent is taken or required to satisfy the 
primary space allocation -


I'm talking space allocation that provides for secondary space 
allocation in the allocate in the dialog, not what SMS or dfp does to 
satisfy the primary space allocation


why is the Health checker issuing a CSVH0979I message LINKLST SET 
LNKST00 data sets allocated with secondary space? if what you say is 
valid ?


Carmen


On 9/22/2022 3:13 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:

Secondary extents are certainly supported in the LNKLST.


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Re: z/OSMF PSWI

[Carmen Vitullo]

I've been doing this on my ServerPac for a while, I've even called out 
the ServerPac folks about the issue of, why deliver linklist lpalist 
datasets with secondary allocation if the linkist does not support it, 
why are they so under allocated, it wasn't until I started to work for 
IBM GS that I realized, even the global services folks do not know what 
the customer issues are, if GS is building a system for a client we do 
not use a ServerPac, most older, seasoned IBM GS folks don't know what a 
ServerPac is, or the one's I worked with did not.


my main issue, ongoing with z/OSMF is these incoherent error messages, 
and help is no help, when a field is required there's not help prompt 
telling me the format or syntax, or what's expected, just, it's not valid.


so many cases open with support I really didn't need to if the help 
dialog was actually helpful.


I hate to keep bashing IBM but we, as customers are forced to use a tool 
that's not really ready for prime time IMHO


Carmen



On 9/22/2022 1:13 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:


Yes, agree, I typically over allocate the Linklisted data sets and have
zero secondary and increase DIR BLKS as well (if it’s a PDS).   I can do
this when the jobs are built but would be MUCH easier in the MODIFY
screens.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 6:25 AM Seymour J Metz  wrote:


What about modifying directory blocks for whatever is still PDS?


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Subject: z/OSMF PSWI

We are installing z/OS 2.5 via z/OSMF and are using the Modify Deployment
screens.  We can easily change the volumes, HLQs, etc, but wanted to modify
the Primary and/or secondary allocation and don’t see a way to do that.

We have a case opened with IBM and have been told there is no way to do
that and no plans for it in the future.   What?We could do that with
the ServerPac, why not with z/OSMF?   I was under the impression that
z/OSMF would provide most functions that ServerPac provided.

So, is that capability not going to be provided?


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Re: DB2 data sharing between two z boxes

[Carmen Vitullo]

On 9/22/2022 8:55 AM, Peter wrote:

Hello

Is it possible to have DB2 data sharing between two different boxes i.e.
between z13 and z15 ?


Do you currently have a CF, running a Parallel SYSPLEX ? or multiple CF's ?

 what box are the CF's ? one on the z13 one on the z15?



Will this support if one of the DB2 subsystem is running in z13 and another
one is running in z15 ?


I think the only factor I can see, without knowing your complex would be 
if the CFRM policy, if any has been built at the appropriate CFC level 
to support both processors and you have enough storage defined for the 
CF's to support DB2 data sharing.





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Re: bpxpqrmxx and $SYSNAME vs

[Carmen Vitullo]

I know the $SYSNAME. resolves to the system name but in my BPXPRMxx 
member I use //etc and //var


I use /$VERSION for my mount-point for the SYSRES specific mount point 
for the version ROOT


Carmen

On 9/11/2022 11:43 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote:

I have a coworker saying we should change our //etc/..   To
/$SYSNAME/etc/.

  


I am not familiar with coding this way

  


Could someone provide a cons vs pros (simple words please) on which is
needed, or used or preferred?

  


Thank you

  

  



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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Speaking of SCRT

[Carmen Vitullo]

Got ya!

the process I took over was quit easy but did take a little work, I 
updated the dates for the SMF extract job, submitted the job, then I ran 
the scrt job, then uploaded the scrt csv file to my workstation, submit 
to LMS, if they plan on automating this process, I wonder if they're 
planning on using z/osmf?


currently those duties are segregated here, one person runs the extract 
and scrt job, she sends this to our acquisitions group, they submit the 
reports to IBM, to me seems more work than it needs to be.


I'll be watching for updates and I'll pass them along, it will be 
interesting to see how they plan on automating the process.


thanks Rex

Carmen

On 9/9/2022 9:03 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:

Hi Carmen,

Until they took it away, we would get a notification from the mainframe that the report 
was ready to look at.  We'd check it for the "missing data" and if it was 
there, fix the CSV on the mainframe.  Then our scheduler would just e-mail the corrected 
report to IBM - all automated.  IBM indicated to me that there is supposedly some way of 
automating the submission to the LMS web site but they gave no indication as to how to do 
that.

Rex

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I've not done this for about 8 years, but I've always had to submit the report 
via the LMS system on IBM's site

you upload the report , via license managed software, if there's an exception , 
missing SMF data over and hour I think, it will flag that missing data and you 
have to comment on why there's an exception, that's all I recall


Carmen


On 9/9/2022 8:37 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:

Hi list,

I'd like to know how you are submitting your SCRT reports to IBM.  Since they 
just stopped accepting reports via e-mail we are manually uploading them to 
IBM.  Would somebody be willing to share what they've done to automate this 
submission using the web interface?

Thanks,

Rex

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Re: Speaking of SCRT

[Carmen Vitullo]

I've not done this for about 8 years, but I've always had to submit the 
report via the LMS system on IBM's site


you upload the report , via license managed software, if there's an 
exception , missing SMF data over and hour I think, it will flag that 
missing data and you have to comment on why there's an exception, that's 
all I recall



Carmen


On 9/9/2022 8:37 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:

Hi list,

I'd like to know how you are submitting your SCRT reports to IBM.  Since they 
just stopped accepting reports via e-mail we are manually uploading them to 
IBM.  Would somebody be willing to share what they've done to automate this 
submission using the web interface?

Thanks,

Rex

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Re: SMF type 76 records - RMF trace activity

[Carmen Vitullo]

looks like TRACE need to be before VSTOR(S) ?

TRACE being a major parm, with VSTOR(S) and other options being minor 
parms under TRACE?


 I'm a CMF shop so I cannot test, but looking at my old RMF parms

NOTRACE

    VSTOR(S)

    WKLS

Carmen

On 9/8/2022 12:53 PM, Pierre Fichaud wrote:

Where do I find doc for the ERBFRMxx member in PARMLIB ?

I change NOTRACE to TRACE and I get a syntax error.

  .  33   IOQ(NOCOMM)/* NO 
COMMUNICATION I/O QUEUEING*/  .
  .  34   IOQ(NOGRAPH)   /* NO GRAPHICS 
DEVICE I/O QUEUEING  */  .
  .  35   IOQ(NONMBR)/* NO SELECTIVITY 
BY LCU NUMBERS*/  .
  .  36 NOFCD/* NO FICON 
DIRECTORS MEASURED  */  .
  .  37   PAGESP /* PAGE DATASET 
STATISTICS  */  .
  .  38   PAGING /* PAGING DATA 
 */  .
  .  39   TRACE  /* NO TRACE REPORT 
PRF-2022/09/08   */  .
  .  40   VSTOR(S)   /* VIRTUAL STORAGE 
SUMMARY DATA */  .
  .  41   WKLD   /* WORKLOAD 
MANAGER DATA*/  .

ERB100I RMF: ACTIVE
ERB300I ZZ : SYNTAX ERROR IN OR FOLLOWING TEXT BEGINNING '   */
ERB300I ZZ : VSTOR(S) ' IN LIBRARY 00 INPUT
ERB103I ZZ : OPTIONS IN EFFECT
ERB103I ZZ :   NOEXITS  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   SYSOUT(A)  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   NOREPORT  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   RECORD  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   NOOPTIONS  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   SYNC(SMF)  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   NOSTOP  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   CYCLE(1000)  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   NOVMGUEST  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   WKLD  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   VSTOR(S)  -- MEMBER
ERB103I ZZ :   NOTRACE  -- CHANGED
ERB103I ZZ :   PAGING  -- MEMBER

I don't see what I've done wrong.

Also, I can /S RMF but I can't /P RMF. It says that it is not active.
So I need to IPL to get rid of RMF.

Thanks in advance, Pierre.

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Re: Certificate problem

[Carmen Vitullo]

Phil,

Yes, it's TLSv1.3:

sorry I missed this.

You mean the label in the gskkyman entry?

I was thinking the entry, Cert that was added to RACF, that's where I had 
similar issues.
sorry I could not be more help
Carmen

On 9/8/2022 10:31 AM, Phil Smith III wrote:

Yes, it's TLSv1.3:


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Re: SMF type 76 records - RMF trace activity

[Carmen Vitullo]

unless I'm missing it, I don't see where you're telling SMF to write 
these records

snip from my SMFPRM
STATUS(SMF,SYNC) /* WRITE SMF STATS AT INTERVAL */

SYS(TYPE(0:3,6:19,21:33,36:39,41:98,99(1,6,12),100:255),

EXITS(IEFACTRT,IEFUTL,IEFU29,IEFU29L,IEFU83,IEFU84,IEFU85,IEFU86,

  IEFUJV,IEFUJI,IEFUSI),
INTERVAL(01),DETAIL)

On 9/8/2022 9:31 AM, Pierre Fichaud wrote:

My SMF parms include all SMF types.
  .  01 INTVAL(01) /* SET SMF INTERVAL A 01 
MIN MEASAP*/ .
  .  02 SYNCVAL(01)/* SYNC SMF AT 01 MIN  
MEASAP*/   .
  .  03 DDCONS(NO) /* SAVE CPU TIME */  
 .
  .  04 ACTIVE /*ACTIVE SMF RECORDING*/ 
 .
  .  05 DSNAME(SYS1.,SYS1.) 
 .
  .  06 NOPROMPT   /*DO NOT PROMPT OPERATOR 
FOR OPTIONS*/.
  .  07 REC(PERM)  /*TYPE 17 PERM RECORDS 
ONLY*/ .
  .  08 MEMLIMIT(01024M)
 .
  .  09 MAXDORM(3000)  /* WRITE AN IDLE BUFFER 
AFTER 30 MIN*/.
  .  10 STATUS(SMF,SYNC)   /* CREATE SMF STATUS 
TYPE 23 IN SYNC */   .
  .  11 JWT(2400)  /* 522 AFTER 24 HOURS  
*/ .
  .  12 SID((1:4)) /* SYSTEM ID 
  */ .
  .  13 LISTDSN/* LIST DATA SET STATUS 
AT IPL*/  .
  .  14 LASTDS(MSG)/* SEND A MESSAGE WHEN 
OUT OF BUFFERS */  .
  .  15 NOBUFFS(MSG)/*DEFAULT TO 
MESSAGE  */ .
  .  16 SYS(EXITS(IEFU83,IEFU84,IEFU85,IEFACTRT,
 .
  .  17  
IEFUJV,IEFUSI,IEFUJP,IEFUSO,IEFUJI,IEFUTL,IEFU29,IEFUAV),   .

Regards, Pierre.  .  18  INTERVAL(SMF,SYNC),DETAIL)  .


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Re: Certificate problem

[Carmen Vitullo]

Phil, was this output from an SSL trace?

IIRC there's usually more data related to a cert error,  it's been 7, or 
8 years since I ran the trace but usually the trace data


shows the TLS version also, it's a stretch but are you running TSL 1.1 
or higher?


I'd agree with Attila also, I've had my security team load a cert for me 
that required mixed case, and they defined the LABEL with all caps


Carmen


On 9/7/2022 5:51 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:

I'm getting this trying to use a self-signed certificate. I put it into
gskkyman and when I try to connect (outbound from z/OS) I get

Certificate validation error

from GSK_SECURE_SOCKET_INIT. Running a gsktrace shows:
09/07/2022-17:30:14 Thd-1 ERROR check_cert_extensions_3280_and_later():
Basic Constraints extension must be critical for CA Certificate

09/07/2022-17:30:14 Thd-1 EXIT check_cert_extensions_3280_and_later(): <---
Exit status 0x03353071 (53817457)

09/07/2022-17:30:14 Thd-1 ERROR validate_certificate_basics(): Unable to
verify certificate extensions: Error 0x03353071

09/07/2022-17:30:14 Thd-1 ERROR get_issuer_certificate(): Unable to validate
CA certificate: Error 0x03353071

  


I find nothing for that error in the doc (either the text or the error
number). https://colinpaice.blog/2021/11/03/using-z-os-ldap-with-tls-1-3/
discusses the error, but I don't know how to check it! Other clients work
but that doesn't prove much-we know z/OS is more stringent about following
the rules than many.

  


Ideas?


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Re: test

[Carmen Vitullo]

Me too, I'm not sure if its the new list-server version or something I'm 
doing wrong, maybe my browser, but I select my subscription and select 
get emails and I get nothing, luckily I still get emails to my work 
account or I'd see nothing :(


if you figure it out please share !


Carmen


On 9/6/2022 8:45 AM, Sean Gleann wrote:

Thank you, Carmen.
I used to be able to see my posts and replies, but that seems to have
stopped.
I wonder what has changed.

Sean

On Tue, 6 Sept 2022 at 14:42, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:


I saw both your posts, I too do not get emails for my posts, replies,
even though I have set my preferences to get emails.

Carmen


On 9/6/2022 8:37 AM, Sean Gleann wrote:

test
Sean

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Re: test

[Carmen Vitullo]

I saw both your posts, I too do not get emails for my posts, replies, 
even though I have set my preferences to get emails.


Carmen


On 9/6/2022 8:37 AM, Sean Gleann wrote:

test
Sean

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