Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Jim Beck]

We use Attachmate's InfoConnect on a Windows 7 PC, which allows multiple 
sessions within a single window.  Each LPAR has a primary and alternate ICC 
consoles defined.  The PC has each primary console active in the one window 
always up whenever the PC is up.

Jim

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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Bill Bishop (TMNA)]

CA also has a product call Automation Point.

It does cost, not sure if it is beyond your budget or not.

It does take all console traffic and displays it on a single screen.  It uses a 
server to host the base product and display the message traffic.  It can 
provide remote access to the server so a second console can be used to view 
messages.

It can also support additional downstream message management.

I use it to consolidate traffic for 9 LPARs, and with all the message 
suppression, it is very easy to manage.

Thanks

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Subject: Re: Consolidate Consoles

Not too far out there...
 *realize this is a bit 'out there' but CA's Solve: Operations has something 
called OCS.*


*– VigneshMainframe Infrastructure*

We use CA-Solve OCS. Additionally our ops use  PCOMM on old Win XP machines 
with multiple sessions/windows for each LPAR in our Sysplex.

I expect that the CA-Solve solution costs too much and the OP wants a cheap 
solution.

Our PCOMM/Console sessions are attached via ICC.

I like Tom Brennans suggestion too.

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
wrote:

> We have used VCC for decades to present consoles from multiple 
> sysplexes a single screen. Software runs on Linux. Operator can select 
> which sysplex console to display. No host software required.
>
> .
> .
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> Southern California Edison Company
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:37 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: Consolidate Consoles
>
> I realize this is a bit 'out there' but CA's Solve: Operations has 
> something called OCS.
>
> – Vignesh
> Mainframe Infrastructure
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> Sent: 28 November 2017 10:53
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Consolidate Consoles
>
> That is a thought.
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
> Tom Brennan wrote on 11/27/2017 11:58 PM:
> > A bit far-fetched, but:
> >
> > Create a HLLAPI application that reads a number of minimized ICC 
> > terminal emulators and piles all the console messages into a single 
> > display.  Use a different text color for each - just like sysplexed 
> > consoles do.
> >
> > For command input, have the operator open that particular emulator 
> > window.  That way you avoid HLLAPI code for command input and 
> > routing, and (more importantly) you force the user to focus their 
> > attention on one system.  Once the command is entered, minimize the 
> > emulator window and the big HLLAPI application with all the messages shows 
> > again.
> >
> > Tony Thigpen wrote:
> >> That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do 
> >> it with one session window open?" Thus my question.
> >>
> >> Tony Thigpen
> >>
> >> Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM:
> >>
> >>> A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just 
> >>> get a monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the 
> >>> same time.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> >>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> >>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:58 PM
> >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >>> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles
> >>>
> >>> I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple 
> >>> zOS LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will 
> >>> let us have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. 
> >>> They are envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability 
> >>> to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but 
> >>> we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>> --
> >>>

Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Wayne Bickerdike]

Not too far out there...
 *realize this is a bit 'out there' but CA's Solve: Operations has
something called OCS.*


*– VigneshMainframe Infrastructure*

We use CA-Solve OCS. Additionally our ops use  PCOMM on old Win XP machines
with multiple sessions/windows for each LPAR in our Sysplex.

I expect that the CA-Solve solution costs too much and the OP wants a cheap
solution.

Our PCOMM/Console sessions are attached via ICC.

I like Tom Brennans suggestion too.

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
wrote:

> We have used VCC for decades to present consoles from multiple sysplexes a
> single screen. Software runs on Linux. Operator can select which sysplex
> console to display. No host software required.
>
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
> 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
> robin...@sce.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:37 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: Consolidate Consoles
>
> I realize this is a bit 'out there' but CA's Solve: Operations has
> something called OCS.
>
> – Vignesh
> Mainframe Infrastructure
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> Sent: 28 November 2017 10:53
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Consolidate Consoles
>
> That is a thought.
>
> Tony Thigpen
>
> Tom Brennan wrote on 11/27/2017 11:58 PM:
> > A bit far-fetched, but:
> >
> > Create a HLLAPI application that reads a number of minimized ICC
> > terminal emulators and piles all the console messages into a single
> > display.  Use a different text color for each - just like sysplexed
> > consoles do.
> >
> > For command input, have the operator open that particular emulator
> > window.  That way you avoid HLLAPI code for command input and routing,
> > and (more importantly) you force the user to focus their attention on
> > one system.  Once the command is entered, minimize the emulator window
> > and the big HLLAPI application with all the messages shows again.
> >
> > Tony Thigpen wrote:
> >> That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do it
> >> with one session window open?" Thus my question.
> >>
> >> Tony Thigpen
> >>
> >> Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM:
> >>
> >>> A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just
> >>> get a monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same
> >>> time.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> >>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
> >>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:58 PM
> >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >>> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles
> >>>
> >>> I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS
> >>> LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us
> >>> have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are
> >>> envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run
> >>> something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have
> >>> z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>> --
> >>> Tony Thigpen
>
>
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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Jesse 1 Robinson]

We have used VCC for decades to present consoles from multiple sysplexes a 
single screen. Software runs on Linux. Operator can select which sysplex 
console to display. No host software required. 

.
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Of Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Consolidate Consoles

I realize this is a bit 'out there' but CA's Solve: Operations has something 
called OCS.

– Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure

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Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: 28 November 2017 10:53
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Subject: Re: Consolidate Consoles

That is a thought.

Tony Thigpen

Tom Brennan wrote on 11/27/2017 11:58 PM:
> A bit far-fetched, but:
>
> Create a HLLAPI application that reads a number of minimized ICC 
> terminal emulators and piles all the console messages into a single 
> display.  Use a different text color for each - just like sysplexed 
> consoles do.
>
> For command input, have the operator open that particular emulator 
> window.  That way you avoid HLLAPI code for command input and routing, 
> and (more importantly) you force the user to focus their attention on 
> one system.  Once the command is entered, minimize the emulator window 
> and the big HLLAPI application with all the messages shows again.
>
> Tony Thigpen wrote:
>> That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do it 
>> with one session window open?" Thus my question.
>>
>> Tony Thigpen
>>
>> Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM:
>>
>>> A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just 
>>> get a monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:58 PM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles
>>>
>>> I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS 
>>> LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us 
>>> have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are 
>>> envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run 
>>> something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have 
>>> z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> --
>>> Tony Thigpen


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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh]

I realize this is a bit 'out there' but CA's Solve: Operations has something 
called OCS.

– Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure

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Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: 28 November 2017 10:53
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Subject: Re: Consolidate Consoles

That is a thought.

Tony Thigpen

Tom Brennan wrote on 11/27/2017 11:58 PM:
> A bit far-fetched, but:
>
> Create a HLLAPI application that reads a number of minimized ICC
> terminal emulators and piles all the console messages into a single
> display.  Use a different text color for each - just like sysplexed
> consoles do.
>
> For command input, have the operator open that particular emulator
> window.  That way you avoid HLLAPI code for command input and routing,
> and (more importantly) you force the user to focus their attention on
> one system.  Once the command is entered, minimize the emulator window
> and the big HLLAPI application with all the messages shows again.
>
> Tony Thigpen wrote:
>> That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do it
>> with one session window open?" Thus my question.
>>
>> Tony Thigpen
>>
>> Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM:
>>
>>> A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just
>>> get a monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same
>>> time.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:58 PM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles
>>>
>>> I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS
>>> LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us
>>> have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are
>>> envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run
>>> something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have
>>> z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> --
>>> Tony Thigpen
>>>
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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Tony Thigpen]

That is a thought.

Tony Thigpen

Tom Brennan wrote on 11/27/2017 11:58 PM:

A bit far-fetched, but:

Create a HLLAPI application that reads a number of minimized ICC
terminal emulators and piles all the console messages into a single
display.  Use a different text color for each - just like sysplexed
consoles do.

For command input, have the operator open that particular emulator
window.  That way you avoid HLLAPI code for command input and routing,
and (more importantly) you force the user to focus their attention on
one system.  Once the command is entered, minimize the emulator window
and the big HLLAPI application with all the messages shows again.

Tony Thigpen wrote:

That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do it
with one session window open?" Thus my question.

Tony Thigpen

Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM:


A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just
get a monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same
time.

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Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles

I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS
LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us
have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are
envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run
something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have
z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)

Thoughts?
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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Tom Brennan]

A bit far-fetched, but:

Create a HLLAPI application that reads a number of minimized ICC 
terminal emulators and piles all the console messages into a single 
display.  Use a different text color for each - just like sysplexed 
consoles do.


For command input, have the operator open that particular emulator 
window.  That way you avoid HLLAPI code for command input and routing, 
and (more importantly) you force the user to focus their attention on 
one system.  Once the command is entered, minimize the emulator window 
and the big HLLAPI application with all the messages shows again.


Tony Thigpen wrote:
That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do it 
with one session window open?" Thus my question.


Tony Thigpen

Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM:

A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just get 
a monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same time.


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Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles

I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS 
LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us 
have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are 
envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run 
something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have 
z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)


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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Tony Thigpen]

That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do it 
with one session window open?" Thus my question.


Tony Thigpen

Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM:

A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just get a 
monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same time.

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Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles

I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. 
Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one display with all the 
console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the 
ability to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM 
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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Porowski, Kenneth]

A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just get a 
monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same time.

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Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Consolidate Consoles

I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. 
Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one display 
with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a PC based 
solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs 
are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)

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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Allan Staller]

Correction: OSA/ICC will not do (what my understanding of what the OP posted) 
wants. 

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How do you *know* what the OP wants?  

All he said was " Management wants to know what is available that will let us 
have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs."   That could mean 
almost anything including 5 PCOM emulator windows on the same PC.

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OSA/ICC will not do what the OP wants.

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OSAICC?   

https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2Fen%2FSSLTBW_2.1.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r1.ioaq100%2Fioaq10012.htm=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C6606c0cdbd534756449e08d535d279d5%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C636474100485648328=NmNftHuI3a2w%2BsaVRVjDrGHEhhpA4V35u%2F7QCWADf64%3D=0

You don’t mention what your configuration is.You also don’t say if you want 
5 different consoles running on the same PC?  Or output from 5 systems combined 
into one?  5 systems in the same sysplex?

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I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. 
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solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs 
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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Carmen Vitullo]

Then I would assume BMC's MainView CM solution - or the SuperVision solution 
could help 
http://www.secureagent.com/SV-index.htm 


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We are currently not set up as a sysplex. And, don't really want to. 

Tony Thigpen 

John McKown wrote on 11/27/2017 03:03 PM: 
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote: 
> 
>> I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS 
>> LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one 
>> display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a 
>> PC based solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These 
>> z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE 
>> interconnection.) 
>> 
>> Thoughts? 
> 
> 
> ​The simplest way is to have all your LPARs in a single sysplex. That 
> automatically makes messages from every LPAR available to every other 
> LPAR.​ If you run a parallel sysplex, then, as Allan said, use OPERLOG 
> instead of SYSLOG for recording. 
> 
> 
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>> 
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Re: Consolidate Consoles

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How do you *know* what the OP wants?  

All he said was " Management wants to know what is available that will let us 
have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs."   That could mean 
almost anything including 5 PCOM emulator windows on the same PC.

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OSA/ICC will not do what the OP wants.

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OSAICC?   

https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2Fen%2FSSLTBW_2.1.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r1.ioaq100%2Fioaq10012.htm=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C6606c0cdbd534756449e08d535d279d5%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C636474100485648328=NmNftHuI3a2w%2BsaVRVjDrGHEhhpA4V35u%2F7QCWADf64%3D=0

You don’t mention what your configuration is.You also don’t say if you want 
5 different consoles running on the same PC?  Or output from 5 systems combined 
into one?  5 systems in the same sysplex?

_
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I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. 
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with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a PC based 
solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs 
are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)

Thoughts?
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Re: Consolidate Consoles

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OSA/ICC will not do what the OP wants.

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OSAICC?   

https://apac01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2Fen%2FSSLTBW_2.1.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r1.ioaq100%2Fioaq10012.htm=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C6606c0cdbd534756449e08d535d279d5%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C636474100485648328=NmNftHuI3a2w%2BsaVRVjDrGHEhhpA4V35u%2F7QCWADf64%3D=0

You don’t mention what your configuration is.You also don’t say if you want 
5 different consoles running on the same PC?  Or output from 5 systems combined 
into one?  5 systems in the same sysplex?

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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Carmen Vitullo]

along those same lines we use SuperVision consoles, ICC interface to the 
server, and client connections to the consoles, I've consolidated the consoles 
down to one NIP (master by name only) for each system and one alternate. 
you can use one of their console controllers and your own emulator if you like 
, you don't have to use the server/client setup, but it's more secure, LDAP 
mananged 


http://www.secureagent.com/supervision-a.htm 




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We have BMC's MainView CM, a very nice product that provides console 
consolidation, LDAP-controlled operator logons, command auditing, and 
automation (it interfaces with the HMC, as well). We run it on RHEL on x86, 
though I believe you could run it on any Linux. 

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I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. 
Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one display 
with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a PC based 
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are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.) 

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We have BMC's MainView CM, a very nice product that provides console 
consolidation, LDAP-controlled operator logons, command auditing, and 
automation (it interfaces with the HMC, as well).  We run it on RHEL on x86, 
though I believe you could run it on any Linux.

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Re: Consolidate Consoles

[Tony Thigpen]

We are currently not set up as a sysplex. And, don't really want to.

Tony Thigpen

John McKown wrote on 11/27/2017 03:03 PM:

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Tony Thigpen  wrote:


I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS
LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one
display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a
PC based solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These
z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE
interconnection.)

Thoughts?



​The simplest way is to have all your LPARs in a single sysplex. That
automatically makes messages from every LPAR available to every other
LPAR.​ If you run a parallel sysplex, then, as Allan said, use OPERLOG
instead of SYSLOG for recording.



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Re: Consolidate Consoles

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OSAICC?   

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ioaq100/ioaq10012.htm

You don’t mention what your configuration is.You also don’t say if you want 
5 different consoles running on the same PC?  Or output from 5 systems combined 
into one?  5 systems in the same sysplex?

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On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Tony Thigpen  wrote:

> I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS
> LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one
> display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a
> PC based solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These
> z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE
> interconnection.)
>
> Thoughts?


​The simplest way is to have all your LPARs in a single sysplex. That
automatically makes messages from every LPAR available to every other
LPAR.​ If you run a parallel sysplex, then, as Allan said, use OPERLOG
instead of SYSLOG for recording.


> --
> Tony Thigpen
>
>

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Re: Consolidate Consoles

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SYSTEM LOGGER (operlog)

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I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS LPARs. 
Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one display 
with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a PC based 
solution, but we have the ability to run something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs 
are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)

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Consolidate Consoles

[Tony Thigpen]

I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS 
LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have 
one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are 
envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run 
something on zVM. (These z/OS LPARs are not under z/VM, but we have z/VM 
on another CPU with NJE interconnection.)


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