Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

2013-07-01 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Hi, this is just due to the fundamental difference between processing SMS and 
nonSMS managed volumes.  For nonSMS,  migration eligibility is managed at the 
Volume level, through HSM parameters.  For SMS, migration eligibility is 
managed at the Data Set level, through SMS Management Class parameters.  Refer 
to the DFSMShsm Storage Administration chapter on MIGRATE and you will notice 
that there are two sections, one for SMS and one for nonSMS.  The only valid 
value for SMS managed volumes is DAYS(0).  DAYS(0) basically says to ignore the 
threshold and migrate all data sets that are eligible, based on the Management 
Class values.  (For automatic processing, migration ends when the threshold has 
been met, even if there are more data sets that are eligible to be processed).  
For nonSMS, you can override the existing HSM migration parm by specifying 
DAYS(n).  Correct, you don't want to issue CONVERT and DBA/DBU only apply to 
nonSMS.

Glenn Wilcock
DFSMShsm Architect

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

2013-07-01 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Hi, quick correction to my last append: DAYS(0) basically says to ignore the 
threshold and migrate all data sets that are eligible, based on the Management 
Class values.  should read DAYS(0) basically says to ignore the threshold and 
migrate all data sets for which automatic space management is supported.  

P.S. - As to 'why' DAYS(n) is not supported for SMS managed volumes, I'm not 
certain, it pre-dates my employment.  I suspect that DAYS(0) was added for SMS 
volumes to provide equivalent function to nonSMS as a way to drain them, but 
that DAYS(n) was not considered necessary because of the more granular control 
via management classes.

Glenn

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

2013-06-28 Thread esmie moo
I have been going through the archives so far I haven't found anything as yet.  
 I will keep on looking.




From: Richard Marchant richard.march...@shoden.co.za
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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS


Esmie,

There was quite a long thread about this very issue quite recently, please 
check the archives. Unfortunately there were no easy answers.

Richard

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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

Lizette,
 
We are running z/OS 01.13.00.  Yes I googled the command etc which led me to 
the Storage admin doc.  I do not know how to check if the volume has a DBA or 
DBU specified.  I thought usually that this would apply to non-SMS vols.



From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:57:16 AM
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS


A couple of questions

What version of z/OS?
Have you searched the Internet?  I found a couple of relevant hits already

Second, the RC25 says
25
There is a space management request on an SMS-managed volume with DBA or DBU
specified, or a nonzero value of days on MIGRATE (days) or DAYS (days) is
specified on a MIGRATE command.

So you need to check to see if you have DBA or DBU specified
z/OS V1R13.0 DFSMShsm Storage Administration
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/download/DGT2S6A2.pdf?D
T=20120814235256XKS=dgt2bkb2


Lizette


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Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I was going through the DFSMShsm Storage Administration Doc to find some
info on migrating Ml0 or Primary volumes.  The examples provided seem quite
straight forward.  I tried the example on the SMS managed primary volumes :
MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF001 MIGRATE(0))  and it worked.  I tried the example HSEND
MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF002) DAYS(0) and that worked too.  What is the difference
between the two i.e. MIGRATE(0) and DAYS(0)?
 
 I tried the command HSEND MIGRATE VOLUME(SSDF03) DAYS(1) (I wanted to
migrate dsns over 1 day old)  I got the error message :
ARC0570I COMMAND MIGRATION FOR SBB203 VOLUME(S) TERMINATED, RC=25 REASON=0
 
According to the doc it suggests to use the CONVERT parm.  Fair enough. 
However the CONVERT would move the dsns from 1 Primary volume to another and
not migrate them to ML1 or ML2 which doesn't help.  When I issued the
command HSEND MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF002) DAYS(0) does it mean that the CONVERT
parm is a default or were the dsns migrated to ML1/ML2.  I cannot check this
because I didn't list the dsns before I issued the command.  
 
Hopefully somebody can answer my questions.
 
Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

2013-06-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
See if this thread helps.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/bit.listserv.ibm-main/ARC057
0I$2025/bit.listserv.ibm-main/g_CNBhd5Bdo

I used the message ID and 25

Lizette


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Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

I have been going through the archives so far I haven't found anything as
yet.   I will keep on looking.




From: Richard Marchant richard.march...@shoden.co.za
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:28:18 AM
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS


Esmie,

There was quite a long thread about this very issue quite recently, please
check the archives. Unfortunately there were no easy answers.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of esmie moo
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

Lizette,
 
We are running z/OS 01.13.00.  Yes I googled the command etc which led me to
the Storage admin doc.  I do not know how to check if the volume has a DBA
or DBU specified.  I thought usually that this would apply to non-SMS vols.



From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:57:16 AM
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS


A couple of questions

What version of z/OS?
Have you searched the Internet?  I found a couple of relevant hits already

Second, the RC25 says
25
There is a space management request on an SMS-managed volume with DBA or DBU
specified, or a nonzero value of days on MIGRATE (days) or DAYS (days) is
specified on a MIGRATE command.

So you need to check to see if you have DBA or DBU specified
z/OS V1R13.0 DFSMShsm Storage Administration
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/download/DGT2S6A2.pdf?D
T=20120814235256XKS=dgt2bkb2


Lizette


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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I was going through the DFSMShsm Storage Administration Doc to find some
info on migrating Ml0 or Primary volumes.  The examples provided seem quite
straight forward.  I tried the example on the SMS managed primary volumes :
MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF001 MIGRATE(0))  and it worked.  I tried the example HSEND
MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF002) DAYS(0) and that worked too.  What is the difference
between the two i.e. MIGRATE(0) and DAYS(0)?
 
 I tried the command HSEND MIGRATE VOLUME(SSDF03) DAYS(1) (I wanted to
migrate dsns over 1 day old)  I got the error message :
ARC0570I COMMAND MIGRATION FOR SBB203 VOLUME(S) TERMINATED, RC=25 REASON=0
 
According to the doc it suggests to use the CONVERT parm.  Fair enough. 
However the CONVERT would move the dsns from 1 Primary volume to another and
not migrate them to ML1 or ML2 which doesn't help.  When I issued the
command HSEND MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF002) DAYS(0) does it mean that the CONVERT
parm is a default or were the dsns migrated to ML1/ML2.  I cannot check this
because I didn't list the dsns before I issued the command.  
 
Hopefully somebody can answer my questions.
 
Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

2013-06-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
A couple of questions

What version of z/OS?
Have you searched the Internet?  I found a couple of relevant hits already

Second, the RC25 says
25
There is a space management request on an SMS-managed volume with DBA or DBU
specified, or a nonzero value of days on MIGRATE (days) or DAYS (days) is
specified on a MIGRATE command.

So you need to check to see if you have DBA or DBU specified
z/OS V1R13.0 DFSMShsm Storage Administration
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/download/DGT2S6A2.pdf?D
T=20120814235256XKS=dgt2bkb2


Lizette


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Behalf Of esmie moo
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I was going through the DFSMShsm Storage Administration Doc to find some
info on migrating Ml0 or Primary volumes.  The examples provided seem quite
straight forward.  I tried the example on the SMS managed primary volumes :
MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF001 MIGRATE(0))  and it worked.  I tried the example HSEND
MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF002) DAYS(0) and that worked too.  What is the difference
between the two i.e. MIGRATE(0) and DAYS(0)?
 
 I tried the command HSEND MIGRATE VOLUME(SSDF03) DAYS(1) (I wanted to
migrate dsns over 1 day old)  I got the error message :
ARC0570I COMMAND MIGRATION FOR SBB203 VOLUME(S) TERMINATED, RC=25 REASON=0
 
According to the doc it suggests to use the CONVERT parm.  Fair enough. 
However the CONVERT would move the dsns from 1 Primary volume to another and
not migrate them to ML1 or ML2 which doesn't help.  When I issued the
command HSEND MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF002) DAYS(0) does it mean that the CONVERT
parm is a default or were the dsns migrated to ML1/ML2.  I cannot check this
because I didn't list the dsns before I issued the command.  
 
Hopefully somebody can answer my questions.
 
Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

2013-06-27 Thread esmie moo
Lizette,
 
We are running z/OS 01.13.00.  Yes I googled the command etc which led me to 
the Storage admin doc.  I do not know how to check if the volume has a DBA or 
DBU specified.  I thought usually that this would apply to non-SMS vols.



From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:57:16 AM
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS


A couple of questions

What version of z/OS?
Have you searched the Internet?  I found a couple of relevant hits already

Second, the RC25 says
25
There is a space management request on an SMS-managed volume with DBA or DBU
specified, or a nonzero value of days on MIGRATE (days) or DAYS (days) is
specified on a MIGRATE command.

So you need to check to see if you have DBA or DBU specified
z/OS V1R13.0 DFSMShsm Storage Administration
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/download/DGT2S6A2.pdf?D
T=20120814235256XKS=dgt2bkb2


Lizette


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of esmie moo
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - MIGRATE VOLUME PARMS

Good Morning Gentle Readers,
 
I was going through the DFSMShsm Storage Administration Doc to find some
info on migrating Ml0 or Primary volumes.  The examples provided seem quite
straight forward.  I tried the example on the SMS managed primary volumes :
MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF001 MIGRATE(0))  and it worked.  I tried the example HSEND
MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF002) DAYS(0) and that worked too.  What is the difference
between the two i.e. MIGRATE(0) and DAYS(0)?
 
 I tried the command HSEND MIGRATE VOLUME(SSDF03) DAYS(1) (I wanted to
migrate dsns over 1 day old)  I got the error message :
ARC0570I COMMAND MIGRATION FOR SBB203 VOLUME(S) TERMINATED, RC=25 REASON=0
 
According to the doc it suggests to use the CONVERT parm.  Fair enough. 
However the CONVERT would move the dsns from 1 Primary volume to another and
not migrate them to ML1 or ML2 which doesn't help.  When I issued the
command HSEND MIGRATE VOLUME(SDF002) DAYS(0) does it mean that the CONVERT
parm is a default or were the dsns migrated to ML1/ML2.  I cannot check this
because I didn't list the dsns before I issued the command.  
 
Hopefully somebody can answer my questions.
 
Thanks.

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