Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
Rakesh Kumar said on Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 06:07:01AM -0800,: Hi I firstly tried to look into the partition table by using # fdisk -l, but it was showing windows partitions only. It's not my laptop so i can't perform experiments on it. I've not worked on ubuntu so much but in Red Hat i preferably use this to delete grub: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=256 count=1 So i want to ask you whether this will work, to delete grub and reinstall it using installation media? No; this means you have a corrupted partition table. Wonder why windughs is not complaining. Try running testdisk froma live CD on the partition. testdisk will recover the partition. To rephrase it better, RECOVER the lost partition using testdisk. -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com Buy Free Software -- It gives you freedom! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Rakesh Kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I firstly tried to look into the partition table by using # fdisk -l, but it was showing windows partitions only. It's not my laptop so i can't perform experiments on it. I've not worked on ubuntu so much but in Red Hat i preferably use this to delete grub: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=256 count=1 So i want to ask you whether this will work, to delete grub and reinstall it using installation media? If you are looking for replacing grub, then -boot the system with Ubuntu live CD -mount no other media device than your ubuntu root partition -run $sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda (Of course, the device ID can be different with your case) -reboot HTH. Reference: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows -- Thanks, Sagar Belure ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
Hello Rakesh, I didn't asked that whether there is separate /home partition or not on the HDD. Actually i suggested you to use one...:P And can you provide us your installation/up-gradation logs of the broken machine? If possible. And also tell us the hardware you are using. And do consider logs carefully, they can give you a good idea about your problem like failure of up-gradation of a particular package. Regards Aman Thakur ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
Rakesh Kumar said on Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 12:38:45PM +0530,: We already tried to solve it through grub command line but didn't work.. What did you do? Explaining that may help. Is this an ext4 partition? Is the issue related to inability of certain versions of grub to load ext4 partitions? If so, installing the relevant module from grub command line may help. I faintly recall breaking this system when I encountered that problem, and none of the rescue CDs I had could support ext4. Was forced to do a reinstall, first one in a loong time!! Have you checked that? -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com Distributing free copies of non-free software is -- -- like advertising drugs. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Rakesh Kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One of my friend was using ubuntu 10.04. Today she tried to update my observation rule number one 1) never upgrade Ubuntu , always reinstall.. Stupid rule. I have been upgrading ubuntu since ages on mine and my sister's PC since ages without any problem that I didn't manage to solve. Leave reinstalls to windows noobs. And what's with the redundancy in numbering? -- With Regards, Mehul Ved ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Mehul Ved mehul.n@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Rakesh Kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One of my friend was using ubuntu 10.04. Today she tried to update my observation rule number one 1) never upgrade Ubuntu , always reinstall.. Stupid rule. I repeat - golden rule, follow it or get trouble.. http://www.google.co.in/search?q=ubuntu+upgrade+10.04+to+10.10+failed Google says - 1,96,000 Results. , http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=enq=ubuntu+%2B+upgrade+%2B+failed Google says - 15,00,000 Results I guess u are lucky,,, I have been upgrading ubuntu since ages on mine and my sister's PC since ages without any problem that I didn't manage to solve. I am talking about normal user and not sysadmin type of guys (like me ) who can handle problems Leave reinstalls to windows noobs. And what's with the redundancy in numbering? -- With Regards, Mehul Ved -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: I am talking about normal user and not sysadmin type of guys (like me ) who can handle problems Most of the users who follow the package manager do not run into problems. Google search results do not suggest much. Many of the users simply do not read the upgrade instructions properly and even then it works fine for most people. Do you have a study of the problems experienced to justify the statement? Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
Do you have a study of the problems experienced to justify the statement? Problem 1 : think of those who use i945 and radeon chipset and upgraded to 10.10 from 10.04 on 10/10/10 .Although Ubuntu know about this bug in advance but that was not a part of so called , upgrade notes . Ref : http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com/msg09202.html Ref : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdrm/+bug/619663 -- With Regards, Gaurav Paliwal http://gauravpaliwal.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On 12/24/10, Aman Thakur aman.thakur.1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rakesh, I agree with the Mahesh in his both the above messages. I think there should be a different /home partition. I don't think she would probably have different /home partition. And for fixing your broken ubuntu system, you should try to go in rescue mode and reinstall the grub. If unsuccessfull then try to goto into the grub command line fix it as mahesh said above We already tried to solve it through grub command line but didn't work.. But i am not sure whether it works out for you or not. Since problem came during update, so it might a problem of broken packages. So try fixing grub first then let us know the output..so that we can have more idea of the problem. Now i think it might be a bug or some thing else (like broken package etc). Because while searching on internet, similar type of results were shown to me. Few of them have solved it but most of them couldn't and so many people have reported the same problem. I have always been updating and upgrading my ubuntu (any version except 10.04) so suggested her to do same. Might be she wouldn't have read the instructions carefully. Regards Aman Thakur ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Regards RAKESH Allow Your Own Inner Light to Guide You ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Mehul Ved wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Narendra wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Rakesh Kumar wrote: Hi, One of my friend was using ubuntu 10.04. Today she tried to update my observation rule number one 1) never upgrade Ubuntu , always reinstall.. Stupid rule. I repeat - golden rule, follow it or get trouble.. http://www.google.co.in/search?q=ubuntu+upgrade+10.04+to+10.10+failed Google says - 1,96,000 Results. , http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=enq=ubuntu+%2B+upgrade+%2B+failed Google says - 15,00,000 Results I guess u are lucky,,, please add me to the lucky list. i have been upgrading ubuntu since 8.04 to 10.10 without any trouble (except thinkpad specific features breaking but then there are kind souls that share workarounds / solutions on thinkwiki.) may be running no exotic harware and upgrade only after a few weeks of release might have something to do wit hit. ;-) cheers! -- manish ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
Hi, One of my friend was using ubuntu 10.04. Today she tried to update the ubuntu (as she told me) then shut down her laptop (ubuntu not asked to restart). When after few hours she tried to turn on her laptop it couldn't be loaded showing an error message The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery. I told her to try in accordance with the instructions but it couldn't recover her system. As i could think that may be grub couldn't be updated due to incorrect parameters or may kernel couldn't be updated properly. I think she should delete the grub by using : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=256 count=1 or using hda instead of sda and reinstall it by using the media. Please if any one has experienced this problem, share your experience and suggest me something.. -- Regards RAKESH Allow Your Own Inner Light to Guide You ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Rakesh Kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One of my friend was using ubuntu 10.04. Today she tried to update my observation rule number one 1) never upgrade Ubuntu , always reinstall.. rule number two 2) never install Ubuntu without making a proper data backup ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Rakesh Kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One of my friend was using ubuntu 10.04. Today she tried to update my observation rule number one 1) never upgrade Ubuntu , always reinstall.. [...] Rule number zero: Read carefully before replying with unhelpful comments. The original poster said update not upgrade. Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
Narendra Sisodiya said on Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 08:39:53PM +0530,: 2) never install Ubuntu without making a proper data backup A slightly better way would be to have /home/ under a different partition; and while re-installing, tell the installer to use the specific partition, without initializing it, or whatever. You need to be very careful, and read what the installer is telling. -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com DICTIONARY, n. A malevolent literary device for cramping the growth of a language and making it hard and inelastic. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Rakesh Kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, One of my friend was using ubuntu 10.04. Today she tried to update the ubuntu (as she told me) then shut down her laptop (ubuntu not asked to restart). When after few hours she tried to turn on her laptop it couldn't be loaded showing an error message The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery. I told her to try in accordance with the instructions but it couldn't recover her system. As i could think that may be grub couldn't be updated due to incorrect parameters or may kernel couldn't be updated properly. Simply reboot or wait the login screen will appear. It is a new bug. check at launchpad. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
Rakesh Kumar said on Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 08:20:01PM +0530,: As i could think that may be grub couldn't be updated due to incorrect parameters or may kernel couldn't be updated properly. I think she should delete the grub by using : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=256 count=1 or using hda instead of sda and reinstall it by using the media. Please if any one has experienced this problem, share your experience and suggest me something.. My first guess is this is a UUID problem. No need for the dd=... stuff. Simply booting from a live/rescue CD, using the / partition in the installed HDD as the root partition and then re-installing grub ought to solve the issue. The CD will ask you to specify the partition to be used as the root partition, if you choose a rescue option. Installing Grub from the CD may not work; but YMMV. Also, if the version of the kernel on the rescue CD and the installed partition are different, the procedure may fail. A better option, if the rescue CD option fails, would be to use the grub command line. This, assuming this is a UUID problem. Please search the web (sorry, my browser is acting up ... I just upgraded) for the term grub2 rescue documentation), before attempting this. Basically, you should enter the command line within grub, edit the boot paramaters, and edit the root= paramater in the line starting with linux. But, you should really be looking this up on the ubuntuforums.org website. I guess they ought to know better. -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com Distribute Free Software -- Help stamp out Software Hoarding! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Rakesh Kumar said on Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 08:20:01PM +0530,: As i could think that may be grub couldn't be updated due to incorrect parameters or may kernel couldn't be updated properly. I think she should delete the grub by using : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=256 count=1 or using hda instead of sda and reinstall it by using the media. Please if any one has experienced this problem, share your experience and suggest me something.. My first guess is this is a UUID problem. I am certain that this is bug and not a uuid problem. OP should post the dmesg and older boot logs. Does the system boot now? Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu 10.04 got crashed
Hi Rakesh, I agree with the Mahesh in his both the above messages. I think there should be a different /home partition. And for fixing your broken ubuntu system, you should try to go in rescue mode and reinstall the grub. If unsuccessfull then try to goto into the grub command line fix it as mahesh said above But i am not sure whether it works out for you or not. Since problem came during update, so it might a problem of broken packages. So try fixing grub first then let us know the output..so that we can have more idea of the problem. Regards Aman Thakur ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
