[efloraofindia:65882] Information.

2011-03-28 Thread Rashida Atthar
I had requested Garg ji yesterday to inform the group the correct reasons
for Mr. Anand Kumar Bhatt ji leaving as a moderator on 6 Nov. 2009. The
request came after reading Madhuri ji's mention about Anand ji less
interaction in one of the mails becasue I did not want any  incorrect
inferences or reasons drawn for the same.   My forwards of Mr. Anand kumar
Bhatt ji's  request and Garg ji 's  acceptance of the same with reasons of
his lack of internet access and other personal reasons cited in the first
two lines  and my detailed email were deleted forn the group on the
suggestion of Rajesh Sachdev ji ( dormant member since a long time and
also a dormant  itp moderator ) Dr. Pankaj j kumar ( who is least qualified
for making any such suggestions being the most slanderous, rude and
insulting person on itp) Dr. Gurcharan ji and the suggestion for deleting
my message made by Dr. Pankaj Kumar was carried out immediatley by Dinesh
ji. All this was done  without even a discusssion or bothering to consider
deleting the lie of Mr  Anand Kumar Bhatt ji  the mail which was very much
in circulation.

Today mornig I have been informed by Garg ji that he has deactivated my
account for ITPmods for three months and he hopes I continue as a member.

Well Garg ji I request you to please  unsubscribe me from the membership of
eFI because I cannot continue with a owner of a group who does  not believe
in politely informing the truth to the group but always takes harshest
and most  unfair action on me.

regards,
Rashida.


Re: [efloraofindia:65691] erythrina indica

2011-03-26 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Mohina ji  for sharing your designer Erythrina again this time
in much better view and full tree !

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Mohina Macker mohinamac...@gmail.comwrote:

 erythrina indica in flower
 but the flowers are too high for my little camera
 regards
 mohina macker



[efloraofindia:65714] Reasons for Mr. Anand Kumar Bhatt ji's leaving as a moderator on 6 Nov 2009

2011-03-26 Thread Rashida Atthar
There was a huge untruth told by Mr. Anand Kumar Bhatt ji (Retired IAS
officer) without any qualms on the group in my mail in Feb .11,  regarding
his reasons for leaving as a moderator of our group.  Recently the thread
resurfaced and along with it this untrue mail.  I wish to set the record
straight.  Here are the exact words used by Mr. Anand Kumar Bhatt ji  in his
mail :

Long time back you  had some caustic comments on me when I did not agree to
support some cause. I was hurt but did not show it . After that I quietly
resigned as moderator, as I thought that I was not contributing much as
MODERATOR. YOU MIGHT BE FEELING THE SAME WAY, BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. yOU
ARE AN EXPERT AND I AM AN AMATEUR. yOUR SERVICES SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE
GROUP. So even if you donot want to continue as moderator, you must continue
as member and help others in ID and give your expert comments.
Best of luck.
ak
--
Anand Kumar Bhatt 

I was baffled, shocked and surprised as were many  members at this kind of
total fiction and from someone with whom I have not had any discussions
whatsoever. I have uploaded many hundreds of pictures on the group, many of
them new  species or first postings on the group,  have had many discusisons
especially on taxonomy , *but never ever have I started any thread for any
cause on my own.  *
Therefore,  Anand kumar Bhatt ji's  basic premise itself is compleltey
false.  In the next two mails I  am forwarding the threads in which
Anand kumar Bhatt ji clearly stated his  reasons for asking to leave as a
moderator and subsequently Garg ji's  mail accepting the same.

I am also givng datewise count of the number of  times  Anand Kumar Bhatt
ji  has commented on my posts in the period before he decided to leave and
even after that. Anyone can check the mails in the database.  Here are the
details of the posts in which almost always it is Anand kumar Bhatt ji who
has commented on my posts of plants :


Just before his voluntarily leaving as a moderator  on 6 Nov. 2009, Mr.
Anand  Kumar Bhatt ji had interacted on my thread on 'most fragrant flower'
and on 21 october 2009, I am explaining the morphology of the flower in the
thread to him. Prior to this on my thread on Adansonia ,Mr. Anand kumar
Bhatt ji had interacted with comments on 20 August 2009 and 26 August 2009.
Before that Mr.Anand Kumar  Bhatt ji had interacted on 12 June 2009 on my
thread on Gloriasa superba with a comment, and before that on 5 June 2009
again Mr. Anand Kumar  Bhatt ji had commented on my post of Dalbergia
sissoo. This is the entire account of interactions several  months prior to
his leaving due to which  he is claiming that he quietly left as a
moderator on 6 Nov 2009. !!


Subsequent to Mr. Anand Kumar Bhatt ji's leaving as moderator on 6 November
2009 and Garg ji acceptance of the same on 7 November 2009 the
following is the acocunt of the  interactions:   He asked me for help in
getting a photo of Morus species that I had posted some info.on someone's
 thread of the same. I scanned the same and sent it on itp on the same day
on 19 February 2010.  On my post on Gliricidia he has asked Yazdy ji for the
seeds on 12 April 2010. He has commented  on my post on Michelia champaca on
18 May 2010.  He has commented on my post on Mimusops elengi on 5 December
2010.  I have made one observation of  the Tabernaemontana coronaria
flowering on Anand kumar Bhatt ji's thread of the same flowers on 24 August
2010.

I request  Anand Kumar Bhatt ji  ji  to gracefully accept that he has told
complete fiction and desist from setting such an example being such a senior
person on the group.  I also request Garg ji to kindly second this fact
of the reasons for Mr. Anand kumar Bhatt ji leaving as a moderator so that
this untruth he has told on the group is  discarded and issue closed.

regards,
Rashida.


[efloraofindia:65715] Fwd: FW: [indiantreepix:22448] moderator's job

2011-03-26 Thread Rashida Atthar
This is the mail where in Mr. Anand Kumar Bhatt ji is stating his reasons
for wanting to leave as a moderator and stating the reasons for the same.

regards,
Rashida.

-- Forwarded message --
From: rashida atthar rashidaatt...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM
Subject: FW: [indiantreepix:22448] moderator's job
To: atthar.rash...@gmail.com











--
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:03:31 +0530
Subject: [indiantreepix:22448] moderator's job
From: anandkbh...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; jmga...@gmail.com

For some time I have been finding the moderator's job difficult to handle. I
don't open the internet daily, and that causes
delay in attending to the chores. I wil be grateful if I am relieved of the
job.
A.K. Bhatt

-- 
Anand Kumar Bhatt
A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road
Gwalior. 474 005.
Tele: 0751-247 2233. Mobile 0 94253 09780.
My blogsite is at:
http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com
And the photo site:
www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/
~~~
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[efloraofindia:65715] Fwd: FW: [indiantreepix:22563] Sh. Anand Kumar Bhatt- our valued moderator

2011-03-26 Thread Rashida Atthar
This is the mail in which Mr. Garg ji is accepting Mr. Anand Kumar Bhatt ji
is request to leave as a moderator.

regards,
Rashida.

-- Forwarded message --
From: rashida atthar rashidaatt...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:59 PM
Subject: FW: [indiantreepix:22563] Sh. Anand Kumar Bhatt- our valued
moderator
To: atthar.rash...@gmail.com











--
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:30:14 +0530
Subject: [indiantreepix:22563] Sh. Anand Kumar Bhatt- our valued moderator
From: jmga...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Dear members,
Anand Kumar Bhatt was our valued moderator, who got relieved recently
on personal grounds.
He has been very active on the group since he joined in April'09, except for
past few months.
He* still stands at no. six on the list of posters with 589 messages*. He
was more interested in issues other than botanical names etc. like Some
Beautiful Trees for Central India with
GWALIO...http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com/2009/07/some-beautiful-trees-for-central-india.html,
Jasmine
in India http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com/2009/06/jasmine-in-india.html,
Significance
of Trees in Vedas and
Puranashttp://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com/2009/04/one-forester-gave-this-write-up-to-me.html,
Nakshatra Vana Treeshttp://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com/2009/04/blog-post_08.html,
Poison Arrows and
Vishkanyashttp://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com/2009/01/poison-arrows-and-vishkanyas.html,
Some Poisonous Plants of
Indiahttp://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com/2008/12/some-poisonous-plants-of-india.html
along
with moderators work.
Lot of it can be seen on his blog at: http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com/

*Some brief about him is given below: *
Joined IAS in 1969. Worked till 2003. Worked as Administrative Member,
Central Administrative Tribunal from 2003 to 2006. Done a few challenging
assignments like Chairman Forward Markets Commission where a lot of changes
happened during my time; and Director Indian Institute of Tourism and Travel
Management where I built up the Institute from the foundation laying stage
to the level of a fully functional Institute imparting specialised
education. in a new field.
Has been interested in plants and flowers for a long time. I am in the
process of developing a mini-forest in a small area in my colony.
*Indiantreepix will always remember  recall his wonderful contributions.
*--
With regards,
J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
Image Resource of thousands of my images of Birds, Butterflies, Flora etc.
(arranged alphabetically  place-wise):
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg
For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- Indiantreepix:
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Re: [efloraofindia:65690] Re: Article...Thinking Beyond the Grid by

2011-03-25 Thread Rashida Atthar
Truely inspirational, thanks for sharing.

regards,
Rashida.




On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Puttarju ji:
 I am impressed
 Its wonderful to see these pictures and read the short descriptions...
 Isn't Indian traditions great...where homes and hearth are open to
 visitors
 And your dedication to your Hobby is impressive...
 I hope to get better acquainted with your work as time goes on...
 I am new to this group
 Usha di


 On Mar 24, 10:14 pm, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.com wrote:
   Dear moderator,
 
  If you find this article is of worth posting please post it, other
  wise cancel it.
 
   Pl find attached article published in Deccan Herarld
 Dt:22-02-2011for
  your information.
 
  Regards
  Puttaraju.K
 
   20110222pA00112.jpg
  965KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:65532] Re: Leaving the group-Thanks for the wonderful learning experience.

2011-03-24 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou for the appreciation Dr. Usha Deasi and  welcome to the group. It
feels really good when few moments are spared by members to acknowledge the
effforts put in for ones work. I have learned on the job during the
Euphorbiaceae week, thanks to the brilliant concept by Dr. Gurcharan ji.
 Discerning members like youself who like authentic information, are very
 valuable indeed.

regards,
Rashida.



On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Dr. Atthar...ie Rashida ji:

 I am a newbie...but I must say I have been impressed with your
 willingness to share
 authentic information, your replies are thoughtful and never seem to
 be superficial
 euphorbiaceae  is a difficult group of plants to know for a self-
 taught botany amateur,
 your discussions this month made many things clearer...
 I am glad you decided to stay

 AND NOW I KNOW THE REASON FOR DR SINGHS WHY I LOVE EFLORA GROUP
 WRITE UP...

 Regards,
 Usha Desai MD
 ==



 On Feb 18, 3:43 pm, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Mani ji.
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
  On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:
   Thanks Rashida ji for your decision.  We all need your valuable help.
 
   Regards,
 
   Mani.
 
   On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   Dear efloraofindia members,
 
   Today I have received two mails from Garg ji separately stating that
 he
   has taken the needful actions and that I should continue as moderator.
 My
   reason for deciding to leave was the mail from Garg ji yesterday and
 not the
   remarks of anybody. Since Garg ji has changed the perception and done
 the
   needful, Keeping in mind the wishes of my friends, some moderators and
   members, I am deciding to stay with efloraofinda and will continue to
   complete the work I was doing. Sorry for the distress caused.
 
   regards,
   Rashida.
 
   On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   Dear Anand Ji
   i was surprised to know this fact. Amature or expert it does not
 matter.
   you have a good botanical knowledge,we all know this. i request you
 to
   reconsider your decision.
 
   --
   Regards
 
   Dr Balkar Singh
   Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
   Arya P G College, Panipat
   Haryana-132103
   09416262964



Re: [efloraofindia:65560] sterculia urens

2011-03-24 Thread Rashida Atthar
Very nice pictures, Mohina ji . Thanks for sharing. I recently found out
that the accepted name for the same is now Kavalama urens (Roxb.) Raf. syn.
is Sterculia urens Roxb  and shifted from Sterculiaceae family to Malvaceae
family as per Kew plant list. We all need to note the change.

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:23 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 The second picture is very nice Mohini Ji
 Tanay


 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Mohina Macker mohinamac...@gmail.comwrote:

 sterculia urens
 at my place place, alibaug
 regards
 mohina macker




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/





Re: [efloraofindia:65561] On my Banyan tree

2011-03-24 Thread Rashida Atthar
Another great set of visitors skillfully shot .!  Thanks for sharing Neil.

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Thanks Rashida. When the tree is in fruit it is visited by a number of
 birds and insects, but as Dr.Mahadeshwara wrote, it is not always easy to
 photograph them. Sending a few photographs taken last year.
 Regards,
   Neil.

 --- On *Tue, 3/22/11, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:65310] On my Banyan tree
 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
 Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 1:33 PM

  Great set of Visitors ! Thanks for sharing Neil !

 regards,
 Rashida.

  On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Neil Soares 
 drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Hi,
   My Banyan tree was fruiting at my farm at Shahapur yesterday. Sending a
 few photographs - the last 4 are by my friend Jayesh Timbadia.
With regards,
  Neil Soares.






Re: [efloraofindia:65525] Fwd: Warren Buffet's message

2011-03-23 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes Thanks Jay ji. I just read the piece in TOI  and saw your message. The
joy of planting trees is unreplacable by anything else !  It takes a
philanthropist from abroad to rope in our billionaires for good work !!

regards,
Rashida

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:25 AM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Life is all about planting trees under which others sit. is a befitting
 message for Efloraofindia  its members.
 Thanks, Jay ji.

   On 24 March 2011 08:29, Jayaraman Kakarla jaykaka...@gmail.com wrote:




   Hi Friends, Today for the first time in many years, the front page of
 the newspaper did not carry Politicians bribery or deaths. It carried the
 most wonderful message which made my day. I wanted to share it with you all.
 Life is all about planting trees under which others sit.
 - Warren Buffet
 Regards
 Jay
 Nature is GOD! Conservation is Prayer! Travelling is Meditation!




 --
 Nature is GOD! Conservation is Prayer! Travelling is Meditation!




 --
 With regards,
 J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
 The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* 
 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
 alphabetically  place-wise):
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them
 for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
 For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian Flora,
 please visit/ join our Google e-group- Efloraofindia:
 http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix or
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (more than 1550 members 
 64,000 messages on 28/2/11  with a database of around 4500 species on
 15/12/10)




Re: [efloraofindia:65526] Strychnos nux-vomica.. sharing 23032011pj1

2011-03-23 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for this scientific info.

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:39 AM, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi...
 Hornbills are very fond of  Strychnos fruits and have the capability
 of detoxifying the major alkoloids strychnine and brucine present in
 these fruit..really wonderful topic to study.

 On 3/23/11, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Very nice catch Puttaraju ji
  Thanks for sharing the photos and info
  Tanay
 
  On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:23 PM, PUTTARAJU K
  pakshirajka...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  It's flowering time for Strychnos nux-vomica,you can see shiny light
  green leaves with greenish white flowers, favourite for Malabarpied
  hornbill. Kaiga is natural habitat for this species and harbours many
  endemic species of plant.
  --
  With Regards,
  PUTTARAJU K,
  SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
  KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
  POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
  KARNATAKA -581400
  MOB : 9448999150
  EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
  kputtar...@npcil.co.in
 
 
 
 
  --
  *Tanay Bose*
  Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
  Department of Botany.
  University of British Columbia .
  3529-6270 University Blvd.
  Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
  Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
 604-822-2019 (Lab)
 604-822-6089  (Fax)
  ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
  http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
  http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
  https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
 


 --
  With Regards,
 PUTTARAJU K,
 SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
 KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
 POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
 KARNATAKA -581400
 MOB : 9448999150
 EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
 kputtar...@npcil.co.in



Re: [efloraofindia:65528] 24032011pj3 id confirmation

2011-03-23 Thread Rashida Atthar
Wonderful picture , looks like venus's flytrap to me.

regards,
Rashida.




On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Awesome Closeup Puttaraju ji
 thanks for sharing




 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964



[efloraofindia:65530] Re: Eranthemum pulchellum from Delhi thanks Shikant ji's key

2011-03-23 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir, there is some variation in Dr. Almeida's keys(Proof -reading errors?)
 and the description following each species of Eranthemum. As per your
observations of E. pulchellum the following description from the flora
matches for E. pulchellum for the bracts -I am quoting the entire
description:  A shrub 0.6-1.5 meter high, Leaves upto 20 cm long and 10 cm
broad, ovate, lineolate,  apex acuminate entire or  blunt crenulate. *It
has  white, concave, ovate, acuminate* *bracts green nerves and veins and
blue flowers in uninterrupted spikes often forming  a terminal panicle. *
**
Again for E. roseum the detailed description of  both bracts and
 bracteoles is given I quote  Peduncles*  *quadrangular,bracts 9mm long ,
obovate, with a reflexed mucro, white with  very prominent raised green
nerves, densely hairy on the midrib and  ciliate on the margins with long
hair; bracteoles as long as or slightly  longer than the calyx , narrowly
linear, acute , densely  clothed on the back and ciliate with long white
hair * *

Before going through both the description I was sure your plant is not E.
roseum but the fading flowers turning red as seen in one of your
pictures, is it also a charecterisitic of E. pulchellum. If so than the
riddle is solved .

regards,
Rashida.


On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the riddle for me and Dinesh ji is finally solved, thanks to
 Shrikant ji's key and Pankaj ji's attachment

 Eranthemum roseum and E. pulchellum are clearly very distinct

 In E. roseum the spike is much longer but narrower usually longer than 7
 cm, bracts are obovate, mucronate and strigose. This can be clearly seen in
 photographs by Dinesh ji and Nikhaje ji

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/315815819/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/318353211/


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/shubhada_nikharge/5256280357/in/set-72157624552174714/


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/shubhada_nikharge/5255717803/in/set-72157624552174714/

 In E. pulchellum (syn: E. nervosum) the spikes are much shorter usually
 shorter than 7 cm, broader, bracts elliptic, cuspidate and glabrous. This
 can be clearly seen in my photographs attached here.

 In both these species the bracts are mottled green and white as against E.
 purpurascens where they are uniformally green

 I am not familiar with Almeida's Flora, but notice that his key for
 Eranthemum does not seem to be working on more then one counts:

 1. He records bracts as green in both E purpurascens and E. pulchellum,
 whereas they are mottled green and white in E. pulchellum
 2. Spikes are not interrupted in E. pulchellum and bracts clearly longer
 than 1 cm
 3. Bracts are densely hairy in both E. purpurascens and E. roseum.
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/315815819/

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




Re: [efloraofindia:65349] Re: 210311-PR-1 To ID-Chennai

2011-03-22 Thread Rashida Atthar
Padmini ji you are correct in ruling out Berry, I checked the leaves also
are quite different and the fruit is six winged of Berry.  I thought of
Marsupium too, but the fruits of Marsupium do not have a wegde at the top or
clear samara wings as in Holoptelea. You may check the pictures of Dr. Geeta
Samant in the database where very clear fruits are seen of Marsupium.  Also
please check when you see the tree again whether the leaves have an odd one
at the end of the leaflets that is typical of Marsupium and the leaflets
 would be more egg shaped unlike Holoptelea.

regards,
Rashida.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,
  I can only say that I am familiar with both Holoptelea integrifolia and
 Berrya cordifolia (at Thiru-Vi-Ka Park , Shenoynagar and and VAANAVIL ,
 Mount Road ) and this is not those species. The seed - pod looks like
 Berrya's but is much rougher. It is definitely not Kleinhovia either as I
 have some of its seeds in pods.
   I am not able to check out the seeds of Pterocarpus
 marsupium.
  Thanks,
 PadminiRaghavan.
   2011/3/21 Pudji Widodo pudjiuns...@gmail.com

 I think Pterocarpus marsupium Roxburgh

 Pudji Widodo
 Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
 PURWOKERTO INDONESIA





Re: [efloraofindia:65350] On my Banyan tree

2011-03-22 Thread Rashida Atthar
Great set of Visitors ! Thanks for sharing Neil !

regards,
Rashida.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote:

   Hi,
   My Banyan tree was fruiting at my farm at Shahapur yesterday. Sending a
 few photographs - the last 4 are by my friend Jayesh Timbadia.
With regards,
  Neil Soares.




Re: [efloraofindia:65401] 22032011PJ1 ID REQUEST

2011-03-22 Thread Rashida Atthar
Would like to add one more characteristic to the above :  two glands on each
side can be seen at the back of the leaf on the leaf stalk. This is
very characteristic of Terminalia arjuna.

regards,
Rashida.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

 To some extent it looks like T.arjuna. You may like to do the following to
 confirm the id:
 1. Pl look for fallen fruits (5-winged/angled) and leaves (simple, unlobed,
 oblong-lanceolate...), and share the pictures here.
 2. make a slight cut in the bark to observe fleshy pinkish red inner bark.
 3. observe the habitat. T.arjuna usually grows near watercourses.
 4. try to record the local name  use of the tree.

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi



 On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:15 AM, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.comwrote:

 tO MY KNOWLEDGE THIS IS t.aRJUNA,pL COMMENT

  Date/Time-: 13/03/11   - 1 1:40

 Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs

 Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild

 Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-Tree

 Height/Length-17m

 --
 With Regards,
 PUTTARAJU K,
 SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
 KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
 POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
 KARNATAKA -581400
 MOB : 9448999150
 EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
  kputtar...@npcil.co.in





Re: [efloraofindia:65402] Re: Eranthemum roseum vs E. pulchellum

2011-03-22 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir my general question regarding this  species which I have been asking
many to verify : Was there any smell, fragrance ?   Thankyou.

regards,
Rashida.

P.S. Will soon give the difference in both the species from Dr Almeida's
flora.

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Dinesh ji and Shrikant ji
 I had to put this question because while resurfacing the photographs of
 another species (identified as E. purpurascence), the doubts arose in mind.
 Perhaps soon we would resurface all these together, and my plant from Delhi
 which I knew as E. nervosum (now correctly E. pulchellum) which needs to be
 checked for both E. roseum and E. pulchellum, apparently close species which
 can be confused. As suggested by Shrikant ji the differences are largely
 based on spike size and bracts shape. Let us concentrate on that for both
 Delhi plant and those from Western Ghats.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gurcharan ji ... many thanks for surfacing my query put at UBC (where
 Tanay currently belongs).
 The differences between *E. roseum* and *E. pulchellum* are not yet clear
 to me ... for the only fact : not sure whether the latter is found in
 northern Western Ghats.
 If both of them are known to be distributed in northern Western Ghats,
 then the differences are very important to me.

 Sometime later settled with the thinking that *E. pulchellum* has quite a
 few spikes closely rising at the end of stem (or branches) ... while *E.
 roseum*, commonly found in my vicinity has just one OR two spikes ...
 (will stand corrected). There could be better and clearer difference(s)
 between the two species.

 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 In past two months there have been few uploads of Eranthemum
 photographs.

 Pardeshi ji gave following key

 1. Bracts green with white ciliate margin, acuminate at apex...E.
 purpurascens
 1. Bracts white with green nerves, mucronate at
 apex.E. roseum

 We have one shrub growing in Delhi identified as E. nervosum, which has
 bracts similar to E. roseum with green and white portions. It is now
 considered as synonym of E. pulchellum. Also E. roseum and E. pulchellum are
 considered as distinct species, and in spite of trying a lot I could not
 find the differences between the two and am not able to decide whether our
 plant is E. roseum or E. pulchellum. It was pleasant surprise to find that
 Dinesh ji had raised this question in 2007.

 http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22084
  http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22084
 Any clues please

 --


 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/








Re: [efloraofindia:65403] Re: Eranthemum roseum vs E. pulchellum

2011-03-22 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir, in case this helps, here are the keys from Dr. Almeida's flora
for *Eranthemum
L.*  Vol  IV,  A pg: 36

1.Flowers reddish
-pink---E.
cinnabarinum
1.Flowers
blue-2
   2. Bracts densely
pubescent---E.
pubescens
   2. Bracts glabrous or faintly
hairy---3
   3.Bracts white with green veins, obovate, obtuse, with a short
reflexed mucro-4
  4. Plants with many erect branches springing from a common
baseE. wattii
  4. Plants with single stem, branched above, not in
clumps5
  5. Flowers 3-4 cm across
---
E. roseum
  5. Flowers upto 2.5 cm
acrossE.
roseum var. parviflorum
3.Bracts greeen, elliptic,
ovate,acuminate--6
  6. Flowers in dense,usually
solitary,uninterrupted spikes;bracts exceeding 2 cm
long---E. purpurascens
  6. Flowers in interrupted usually paniculate spikes; bracts
less than 1 cm long---7
  7. Leaves
elliptic---
E. fastigiatum
  7.
Leaves  
ovate--E.
pulchellum


regards,
Rashida.


On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sir my general question regarding this  species which I have been asking
 many to verify : Was there any smell, fragrance ?   Thankyou.

 regards,
 Rashida.

 P.S. Will soon give the difference in both the species from Dr Almeida's
 flora.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Dinesh ji and Shrikant ji
 I had to put this question because while resurfacing the photographs of
 another species (identified as E. purpurascence), the doubts arose in mind.
 Perhaps soon we would resurface all these together, and my plant from Delhi
 which I knew as E. nervosum (now correctly E. pulchellum) which needs to be
 checked for both E. roseum and E. pulchellum, apparently close species which
 can be confused. As suggested by Shrikant ji the differences are largely
 based on spike size and bracts shape. Let us concentrate on that for both
 Delhi plant and those from Western Ghats.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gurcharan ji ... many thanks for surfacing my query put at UBC (where
 Tanay currently belongs).
 The differences between *E. roseum* and *E. pulchellum* are not yet
 clear to me ... for the only fact : not sure whether the latter is found in
 northern Western Ghats.
 If both of them are known to be distributed in northern Western Ghats,
 then the differences are very important to me.

 Sometime later settled with the thinking that *E. pulchellum* has quite
 a few spikes closely rising at the end of stem (or branches) ... while *E.
 roseum*, commonly found in my vicinity has just one OR two spikes ...
 (will stand corrected). There could be better and clearer difference(s)
 between the two species.

 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 In past two months there have been few uploads of Eranthemum
 photographs.

 Pardeshi ji gave following key

 1. Bracts green with white ciliate margin, acuminate at apex...E.
 purpurascens
 1. Bracts white with green nerves, mucronate at
 apex.E. roseum

 We have one shrub growing in Delhi identified as E. nervosum, which has
 bracts similar to E. roseum with green and white portions. It is now
 considered as synonym of E. pulchellum. Also E. roseum and E. pulchellum 
 are
 considered

[efloraofindia:65407] Update on Bombax and Ceiba genera

2011-03-22 Thread Rashida Atthar
Would like to inform the group that the latest search on Kew plant list will
show an absence of family Bombacaceae. We have been putting Red silk cotton
tree as Bombax Ceiba L. in family Bombacaceae. It is now as per Kew in the
new family of  Malvaceae !  The genus  Bombax is now placed in Malvaceae and
so is the genus Ceiba !

regards,
Rashida.


Re: [efloraofindia:65410] Re: HOOPOE

2011-03-22 Thread Rashida Atthar
Garg ji and Bimal ji,

This appears  to be Bauhinia x blakeana to me. If I am  not mistaken, I can
see the characteristic black margins and centre spot black, on one of the
petals in the top left flower.

regards,
Rashida.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Bimal ji,
 It's definitely not Bauhinia purpurea.

   On 23 March 2011 10:01, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 A reply:
  Dear Dr Garg,
 I have gone through literature by different authors
 and consulted webs on the species.The confusion can be between Bauhinia
 variegata and Bauhinia Purpurea.I still feel it is Bauhinia Purpurea.Please
 enlighten me.Thanks.

 Regards
 Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
 Mobile: 9434194942

   On 22 March 2011 17:51, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Bimal ji,
 I think this is some other species of Bauhinia  not Bauhinia purpurea.

 Pl. see Efloraofindia site links:

 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/f/fabaceae/bauhinia/bauhinia-variegata


 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/f/fabaceae/bauhinia/bauhinia-x-blakeana


 On 17 March 2011 11:12, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forwarding pl.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Col Bimal Sarkar colbimalsar...@yahoo.com
 Date: 11 March 2011 19:19
 Subject: HOOPOE
 To:


 Dear Friend,
Few years back I read a Middle in The Times of India,where
 the author was narrating his observation about a Woodpecker.From his
 description I could make out that he was talking about a Hoopoe.This mis
 conception about Hoopoe is not restricted to the city folks.I have asked
 about the identity of this bird from the villagers,they also think that the
 bird is Woodpecker.Attaching an image of this bird.I am also attaching an
 image of Bauhinia Purpurea ( Deva Kanchan ).Once in bloom.none can miss 
 this
 tree.Wish you happiness.
 Regards
 Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
 Mobile: 9434194942






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 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
 The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* 
 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
 alphabetically  place-wise):
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
 them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
 For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian Flora,
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 64,000 messages on 28/2/11  with a database of around 4500 species on
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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
 The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* 
 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
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 for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
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Re: [efloraofindia:65247] amit tree uid

2011-03-21 Thread Rashida Atthar
Would like to inform the group that this  tree *Bischofia javanica Blume* is
now in *Phyllanthaceae* family as per Kewplant list. Earlier it was in
Euphorbiaceae as also informed in  my post.  Kindly note the update.

regards,
Rashida.


**

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sorry for the typo. and thanks Tanay. Let me add some more info. now that
 Amit ji has confirmed the tree. Bischofia  javanica is in honour of G.W.
 Bischoff, a professor at Heidelberg in the early 19th century;
 javanica-Java, referring to its place of origin. Commonly called Bishop wood
 tree, Java Cedar ,Euphorbiaceae family.

 Wood is red, used for dyeing bamboo baskets, fans and so on. Timber for
 building!Ref: Aima, pg 58.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:11 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote:

 Please dont take other wise this plant is indeed *Bischofia javanica*
 **but everyone of you have a typo in the spelling.

 Tanay

 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:43 AM, amit chauhan amitci...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks Rashida ji and Satish ji for the identification. It is Bishofia
 javanica !


 Regards

 On 2/24/11, Satish Chile chilesat...@gmail.com wrote:
  I agree with Rashida ji it is Bishofia javanica
 
  On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Rashida Atthar
  atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  This could perhaps be Bishofia javanica, supossed to be growing along
  streams, sub-himalayan region.
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
  On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:14 PM, amit chauhan amitci...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Dear all,
 
  Sending photo of small tree, photo taken near water stream Pantnagar,
  Uttarakhand. Flowers and fruits not observed at this time. Pls help
 in
  identifying
 
  regards
 
  --
  Dr. Amit Chauhan
  Junior Technical Assistant
  Central Institute of Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Research Centre,
  Pantnagar, PO Dairy Farm Nagla, Pantnagar, Udham Singh Nagar,
  Uttarakhand 263149
  ph.05944 234445
  mob.+919412161087
  mail: amitci...@gmail.com
  amitci...@rediffmail.com
  amit.chau...@cimap.res.in
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Dr. Satish Kumar Chile
 


 --
  Dr. Amit Chauhan
 Junior Technical Assistant
 Central Institute of Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Research Centre,
 Pantnagar, PO Dairy Farm Nagla, Pantnagar, Udham Singh Nagar,
 Uttarakhand 263149
 ph.05944 234445
 mob.+919412161087
 mail: amitci...@gmail.com
 amitci...@rediffmail.com
 amit.chau...@cimap.res.in




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/






Re: [efloraofindia:65251] 210311-PR-1 To ID-Chennai

2011-03-21 Thread Rashida Atthar
Guessing it to be perhaps  Holoptelea integrifolia Planch

Please also note:  If one checks the Kew plant list it is mentioned as an
 unresolved name.

regards,
Rashida.


On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Please help me id this tree in a park at Chennai which had only these seeds
 on it and no flowers.

 (The seed capsules reminded me of those of Berrya cordifolia.)
 Thanks,
 Padmini Raghavan.



Re: [efloraofindia:65253] Re: 210311-PR-1 To ID-Chennai

2011-03-21 Thread Rashida Atthar
Pardeshi ji,  Kleinhovia can be ruled out because Kleinhovia leaves are
cordate and very different from the one in the pictures, even the fruit is
five winged.

regards,
Rashida.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.comwrote:

 Holoptlia integrifolia has one seeded fruit.
 the fruit is resembling Berrya cordifoia (the wings) and tat of
 Kleinhoevia hospita.

 satish pardeshi


 On Mar 21, 1:25 pm, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:
  Guessing it to be perhaps  Holoptelea integrifolia Planch
 
  Please also note:  If one checks the Kew plant list it is mentioned as an
   unresolved name.
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
  On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Please help me id this tree in a park at Chennai which had only these
 seeds
   on it and no flowers.
 
   (The seed capsules reminded me of those of Berrya cordifolia.)
   Thanks,
   Padmini Raghavan.



Re: [efloraofindia:65285] Solanum mauritianum Scop. [Solanaceae]

2011-03-21 Thread Rashida Atthar
Very nice pictures, thanks Muthu ji.

regards,
Rashida.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Muthu ji for uploading this  interesting species.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Name: *Solanum mauritianum* Scop.
 Family: Solanaceae
 Common name: Bug Tree, Wild tobacco bush
  Native of Tropical Africa

 Location: Ooty town, Nilgiris, TN
 Altitude: 2000 -2200 ASL
 Date: 24 Jan 2011

 Dear all,
 Is this id right, or could this be some other?

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org







Re: [efloraofindia:65287] Wayanad flora #7 | 21MarAR02

2011-03-21 Thread Rashida Atthar
Raghu ji, I think there is some inadvertant mix- up in your text description
and pictures.

regards,
Rashida.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:27 PM, raghu ananth raghu_...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Wayanad flora #7 | 01Sep2011 AR02 03:43PM


   Date/Time-9 Jan 2011 03:29 PM

 Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Meenmutty falls, Wynaad, Kerala

 Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-, Wild, Western ghats,

 P

 lant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-Shrub,
 Forest path

 Height/Length-approx - 6feet

 Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Shape - Comparable with Hibiscus leaf, toothed,
 7cms approx

 Inflorescence Type/ Size-

 Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts - 5cms, Yellow

 Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- No fruits

 Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- Buds red


 Regards

 Raghu




Re: [efloraofindia:65300] Wayanad flora #7 | 21MarAR02

2011-03-21 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for the update Raghu ji. Was trying to place this in a  Carissa sp.
but leaves are not matching any !

regards,
Rashida.
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:24 PM, raghu ananth raghu_...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Thanks Rashida ji,

 Was in a state of sleep:)
 Pls find the modified eflora table below.

 Regards
 Raghu


  Date/Time-9 Jan 2011 03:43 PM

 Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Meenmutty falls, Waynaad, Kerala

 Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-, Wild, Western ghats,

 P

 lant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-Looks like a Shrub,
 Forest path

 Height/Length-approx - 6-8feet

 Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Shape - Acuminate, Elliptical, Margin -smooth,
 10cms

 Inflorescence Type/ Size-

 Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts - 5cms, White, Petals -5, 5cms, Pedicel
 - Light green to light pink

 Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- No fruits

 Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- Buds - Pinkish to
 Red
 --- On *Mon, 21/3/11, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:65286] Wayanad flora #7 | 21MarAR02
 To: raghu ananth raghu_...@yahoo.com
 Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, 21 March, 2011, 8:44 PM


  Raghu ji, I think there is some inadvertant mix- up in your text
 description and pictures.

 regards,
 Rashida.

 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:27 PM, raghu ananth 
 raghu_...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=raghu_...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Wayanad flora #7 | 01Sep2011 AR02 03:43PM


   Date/Time-9 Jan 2011 03:29 PM

 Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Meenmutty falls, Wynaad, Kerala

 Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-, Wild, Western ghats,

 P

 lant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-Shrub,
 Forest path

 Height/Length-approx - 6feet

 Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Shape - Comparable with Hibiscus leaf, toothed,
 7cms approx

 Inflorescence Type/ Size-

 Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts - 5cms, Yellow

 Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- No fruits

 Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- Buds red


 Regards

 Raghu






Fwd: [efloraofindia:65191] Re: TREE ID REQUEST

2011-03-20 Thread Rashida Atthar
-- Forwarded message --
From: Nudrat Sayed nudrat@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:64949] Re: TREE ID REQUEST
To: Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com


Hi,

I have seen Bridelia berries in all stages and that is the reason why i said
that it is not Bridelia.


On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Nudrat ji the picture above  may or may  not be Bridelia. But the black
 berries of Bridelia retusa take time to turn black, before that they are of
 various colours- grey- green, green, yellowish, half green yellow maroon
 and than turn black . Infact, most of the time I have seen them in unripe
 form only. You may check my pictures of the same posted last week.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Nudrat nudrat@gmail.com wrote:



 On Mar 13, 4:13 pm, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:
  Diospyros malabarica?...  validate plz
 
  On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Hello,

 The tree in question is neither Diospyros malabarica as the persistent
 calyx is absent and nor is the tree Bridelia retusa as fruits of
 Bridelia are shiny berries almost black in colour.

 However i could be incorrect. Experts please comment
 
   More possibility for this to be Bridelia retusa - the leaf nerves and
   venation  a clue. More close- up pictures will be appreciated if
   available.
 
   regards,
   Rashida.
 
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com
 wrote:
Diospyros sps?
 
On Mar 13, 10:16 am, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.com wrote:
ON DAY TO DAY TRAIL IN THE KAIGA FOREST, FOUND THIS TREE WITH FRUIT
 
Date/Time-: 12/03/11 14:20
 
Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380
 mtrs
 
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild
 
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  TREE
 
Height/Length-7m
 
With Regards,
PUTTARAJU K,
SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
KARNATAKA -581400
MOB : 9448999150
EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
 kputtar...@npcil.co.in
 
 DSC_0108.JPG
390KViewDownload
 
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  308 Disha Residency,
  Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
  Mob.09422379568





-- 
Warm Regards
Sayed Nudrat Zawar


Fwd: [efloraofindia:65192] Re: TREE ID REQUEST

2011-03-20 Thread Rashida Atthar
-- Forwarded message --
From: Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:64949] Re: TREE ID REQUEST
To: Nudrat Sayed nudrat@gmail.com


Ok Nudrat ji. The info. was just for those who may not have seen the same,
if they see the earlier stages they may think it is some other tree than !

regards.
Rashida.

  On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Nudrat Sayed nudrat@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I have seen Bridelia berries in all stages and that is the reason why i
 said that it is not Bridelia.


 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Nudrat ji the picture above  may or may  not be Bridelia. But the black
 berries of Bridelia retusa take time to turn black, before that they are of
 various colours- grey- green, green, yellowish, half green yellow maroon
 and than turn black . Infact, most of the time I have seen them in unripe
 form only. You may check my pictures of the same posted last week.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Nudrat nudrat@gmail.com wrote:



 On Mar 13, 4:13 pm, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:
  Diospyros malabarica?...  validate plz
 
  On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Hello,

 The tree in question is neither Diospyros malabarica as the persistent
 calyx is absent and nor is the tree Bridelia retusa as fruits of
 Bridelia are shiny berries almost black in colour.

 However i could be incorrect. Experts please comment
 
   More possibility for this to be Bridelia retusa - the leaf nerves and
   venation  a clue. More close- up pictures will be appreciated if
   available.
 
   regards,
   Rashida.
 
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com
 wrote:
Diospyros sps?
 
On Mar 13, 10:16 am, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.com wrote:
ON DAY TO DAY TRAIL IN THE KAIGA FOREST, FOUND THIS TREE WITH
 FRUIT
 
Date/Time-: 12/03/11 14:20
 
Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380
 mtrs
 
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild
 
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  TREE
 
Height/Length-7m
 
With Regards,
PUTTARAJU K,
SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
KARNATAKA -581400
MOB : 9448999150
EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
 kputtar...@npcil.co.in
 
 DSC_0108.JPG
390KViewDownload
 
  --
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  308 Disha Residency,
  Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
  Mob.09422379568





 --
 Warm Regards
 Sayed Nudrat Zawar





Fwd: [efloraofindia:65125] Euphorbiaceae Week- Putranjivaceae : Putranjiva roxburghii Wall.

2011-03-18 Thread Rashida Atthar
Request any explanation, feedback  with regards to Padmini ji's
observations about the flowering of  these trees in Chennai.  Thankyou.

regards,
Rashida.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:64725] Euphorbiaceae Week- Putranjivaceae :
Putranjiva roxburghii Wall.
To: Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com


Thanks for your kind words, Rashida-ji.
I must mention that I have been observing 6 trees of Putranjiva roxburgii in
different areas of Chennai and have seen the olives only on one tree in
another park (May Day park) which has been closed to the public, prior to
construction of a Metro station.
I have not been able to see the flowers at all though obviously that one
tree has borne flowers.
Is our climate here not conducive to flowering, I wonder. However the trees
look healthy enough.
 Regards,
Padmini Raghavan.

  On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Rashida Atthar
atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for the pictures Padmini ji.  Recorded for posterity !

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm adding my pics of Putranjiva roxburgii taken at a park which will
 probably be destroyed as a Metro station is to come up on its site.
 Last week I was disappointed to see it closed to the public.

 Thiru-Vi-Ka park at Shenoynagar, Chennai.

 Regards,
 Padmini Raghavan.





Re: [efloraofindia:65126] Re: Clusia rosea

2011-03-18 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for the very nice pictures, especially the last one of the flower
with the ants in a circle inside !

regards,
Rashida.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the very useful info. The photographs are also excellent.
 Your inquisitiveness to know more on the subject has brought out
 interesting information.

 On Mar 18, 12:42 am, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.com wrote:
  I suddenly noticed the roots of the Autograph Tree  and wondered if it
 was a
  mangrove species.
  I came across this fascinating item on the net. Hope you like it.
   ( No wonder Dr. M . Swamy told us it was a special tree. I forget what
 else
  he said abt it.)
 
  Regards,
  Padmini Raghavan.
 
  *Clusia rosea*Jacq.
 
  Common Name: COPEY, MATAPALO
 
  Clinging evergreen treelet, aerial shrub, or rarely ground-rooted tree
 (10
  m) most often found attached to the trunks of large forest trees. As do
 most
  *Clusias*, *C. rosea* begins life as a seedling high in the branches of a
  canopy tree or wedged into a crevice on a steep, rocky cliff. Growing
  epiphytically at first, this succulent, dry-adapted plant eventually
  generates roots that extend to the soil far below. *Clusia rosea* may be
  found anywhere sunlight and rainfall are abundant.
 
  *Description*: When growing on the side of another tree, *C. rosea* is
  composed of multiple small *trunks* and many extended branches. Roots
  encircle the host bole and may extend all the way down to the forest
 floor.
  When growing independently,
  http://www.cds.ed.cr/teachers/harmon/clusia%20flower.jpgthis species
   produces many low, thick, and horizontal limbs from which a confusing
 tangle
  of aerial roots emerge. Reaching the soil, these vertical roots may later
  thicken, becoming secondary stems. Over time, this unusual growth results
 in
  a dense, spreading and low (10 m) crown. *Clusia* bark is smooth textured
  and gray in color. As do others of the genus, *C. rosea* exudes copious
  quantities of thick, latex sap from its leaves, twigs, and fruits -
 however
  that of this species is a striking fluorescent yellow-green color (and
 not
  the more usual white). *Leaves* are large (17 by 12 cm), simple, and
  oppositely arranged. Thick and succulent, the waxy blades are used by the
  plant to store water. Each leaf is very widely rounded in shape (nearly
  orbicular), possessing a semicircular, drip-tipless apice. A single thick
  mid rib is flanked by fine, parallel secondary veins that emerge from it
 at
  an acute angle and continue to the leaf margin. The disk-shaped
  *flowers*are large (10 cm in diameter), attractive, and showy. Seven
  fleshy
  snow-white petals surround a button-sized, green central pistil. An
 annular
  nectary adorns the base of the ovary. Flowers open facing downwards, in
 the
  late afternoon or evening. By morning, they have already begun to turn
 brown
  and die. Flower buds are globular and also mostly white, however they
 show
  some pink tinges as well. The yearly, very regular, and synchronized
  flowering period begins in late June and terminates in early September. *
  Fruits* begin to grow immediately thereafter, from the expanding ovary.
 They
  mature five months later as glossy green, globular capsules (5 cm in
  diameter). Fruiting commences as each capsule splits into a flower-like
  star. Inside, eight narrow compartments hold many small (4-5 mm)
  orange-ariled, white seeds. Harvests last from mid-March through late
 May.
 
  *Similar Species*: *C. rosea* may be confused with some of the other
 aerial
  *Clusias*, like *C. peninsulae*, however the former has larger and much
  rounder leaves than all the others (see description for *C. peninsulae*).
 
  *Natural History*: *Clusia* flowers, open primarily in the evening, are
  probably bat pollinated. Fruits are visited by small birds (e.g.
 Red-legged
  Honeycreepers) that consume the ariled seeds.
  http://www.cds.ed.cr/teachers/harmon/clusia%20fruit.jpgThe arboreal
 habits
  of these small creatures ensure that some seeds will end up high in the
  branches of other rain forest trees, ready to germinate where insolation
  levels are high - but water is scarce. *Clusia*'s water-storing,
 succulent
  leaves represent an adaptation to these droughty conditions and help the
  tree survive during the time it exists as an epiphyte. Though it does
 rely
  on a large tree for support, this species does not seem to pose a major
  threat to its host - rarely growing large or high enough to compete with
 it
  for sunlight.
 
  *Uses*: The leathery, flexible, and durable leaves are said to have been
  used by pirates as playing cards.
 
  *Distribution*: *Clusia rosea* can be found where sunlight is abundant -
 as
  in the tall crowns of canopy trees. Common in many parts of Costa Rica,
 this
  species is also known from Nicaragua, Panamaa, Ecuador, Peru, the
 Dominican
  Republic, and Puerto Rico.
 
   Clusia rosea-15-3-2011 

Re: [efloraofindia:65123] Re: ID confirmation MS0170311 - 15- -Euphorbia week- Ornamental Euphorbia sps.

2011-03-18 Thread Rashida Atthar
I admire your enthusiasm Mahadeshwara  ji !  Yes this is Euphorbia milii
some var. There are too many of them!  The leaves are  deciduous, obovate.
Its inflorescence displays bicoloured, petal like bracks, with small yellow
flowers inside.! The characteristic white sap is present.

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:11 PM, M Swamy swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Though belatedly I am sending the photographs of Euphorbia sps.

 Photo taken on 17.3.11.Place :   Residence at  Mysore.
 ID confirmation requested.   Euphorbia sps.  ( milii var.  ? )



Re: [efloraofindia:65127] Capparis murrayana

2011-03-18 Thread Rashida Atthar
Really nice shots, thanks.

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:36 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very nice shots
 tanay


 On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Pravin Kawale kawale.pra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 Capparis  murrayana
 Marathi name: Kabar,Wagh-nakhi
 At Mulshi,Pune
 16 Mar,2011
 Regards


 DSC03447.JPG
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 DSC03446.JPG

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Re: [efloraofindia:65082] Re: TREE ID REQUEST

2011-03-17 Thread Rashida Atthar
Good to know you have eaten them Nudrat ji. So it is confirmed that they are
edible ! Next time shall try the same. Thanks.

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Nudrat nudrat@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I have seen Bridelia berries at all stages and have eaten them too.
 They are quite sweet when ripe. I am confident that the tree in
 picture is not Bridelia. It neither seems to be Lagerstroemia as the
 leaves donot seem to be opposite.

 I may be incorrect about Lagerstroemia.

 On Mar 16, 9:04 pm, vj vijay.dhasm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Could it be lagerstroemia?
 
  On Mar 15, 6:24 pm, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Nudrat ji the picture above  may or may  not be Bridelia. But the black
   berries of Bridelia retusa take time to turn black, before that they
 are of
   various colours- grey- green, green, yellowish, half green yellow
 maroon
   and than turn black . Infact, most of the time I have seen them in
 unripe
   form only. You may check my pictures of the same posted last week.
 
   regards,
   Rashida.
 
   On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Nudrat nudrat@gmail.com wrote:
 
On Mar 13, 4:13 pm, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:
 Diospyros malabarica?...  validate plz
 
 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Rashida Atthar 
atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hello,
 
The tree in question is neither Diospyros malabarica as the
 persistent
calyx is absent and nor is the tree Bridelia retusa as fruits of
Bridelia are shiny berries almost black in colour.
 
However i could be incorrect. Experts please comment
 
  More possibility for this to be Bridelia retusa - the leaf nerves
 and
  venation  a clue. More close- up pictures will be appreciated if
  available.
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
   On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mahadeswara 
 swamy.c...@gmail.com
wrote:
   Diospyros sps?
 
   On Mar 13, 10:16 am, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   ON DAY TO DAY TRAIL IN THE KAIGA FOREST, FOUND THIS TREE WITH
 FRUIT
 
   Date/Time-: 12/03/11 14:20
 
   Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka,
 380
mtrs
 
   Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild
 
   Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  TREE
 
   Height/Length-7m
 
   With Regards,
   PUTTARAJU K,
   SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
   KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
   POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
   KARNATAKA -581400
   MOB : 9448999150
   EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
kputtar...@npcil.co.in
 
DSC_0108.JPG
   390KViewDownload
 
 --
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 308 Disha Residency,
 Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
 Mob.09422379568



Fwd: [efloraofindia:65086] Re: TREE ID REQUEST

2011-03-17 Thread Rashida Atthar
-- Forwarded message --
From: kottai muthu kottaimu...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:64990] Re: TREE ID REQUEST
To: Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com


Dear all

It could be Knema attenuata, please check it

Sincerely

R. Kottaimuthu




On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Nudrat ji the picture above  may or may  not be Bridelia. But the black
 berries of Bridelia retusa take time to turn black, before that they are of
 various colours- grey- green, green, yellowish, half green yellow maroon
 and than turn black . Infact, most of the time I have seen them in unripe
 form only. You may check my pictures of the same posted last week.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Nudrat nudrat@gmail.com wrote:



 On Mar 13, 4:13 pm, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:
  Diospyros malabarica?...  validate plz
 
  On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Hello,

 The tree in question is neither Diospyros malabarica as the persistent
 calyx is absent and nor is the tree Bridelia retusa as fruits of
 Bridelia are shiny berries almost black in colour.

 However i could be incorrect. Experts please comment
 
   More possibility for this to be Bridelia retusa - the leaf nerves and
   venation  a clue. More close- up pictures will be appreciated if
   available.
 
   regards,
   Rashida.
 
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com
 wrote:
Diospyros sps?
 
On Mar 13, 10:16 am, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.com wrote:
ON DAY TO DAY TRAIL IN THE KAIGA FOREST, FOUND THIS TREE WITH FRUIT
 
Date/Time-: 12/03/11 14:20
 
Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380
 mtrs
 
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild
 
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  TREE
 
Height/Length-7m
 
With Regards,
PUTTARAJU K,
SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
KARNATAKA -581400
MOB : 9448999150
EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
 kputtar...@npcil.co.in
 
 DSC_0108.JPG
390KViewDownload
 
  --
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  308 Disha Residency,
  Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
  Mob.09422379568





Re: [efloraofindia:65056] Euphorbiaceae Week- Putranjivaceae : Putranjiva roxburghii Wall.

2011-03-16 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for the pictures Padmini ji.  Recorded for posterity !

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm adding my pics of Putranjiva roxburgii taken at a park which will
 probably be destroyed as a Metro station is to come up on its site.
 Last week I was disappointed to see it closed to the public.

 Thiru-Vi-Ka park at Shenoynagar, Chennai.

 Regards,
 Padmini Raghavan.




Re: [efloraofindia:65057] Euphorbiaceae Week- Putranjivaceae : Putranjiva roxburghii Wall.

2011-03-16 Thread Rashida Atthar
Satish ji,  I think the flowers as seen in the first and last pictures are
male. There is a distinction in the pedicels length  and pattern and number
of flowers of male and female. The male are yellowish, shortly pedicellate
crowded, in rounded axillary clusters on the main or on short axillary
branches.  Female flowers are solitary or 2 to 3  together , greenish, in an
axil, pedicels 8 -10 mm long.
Drupes: 1-2 cm long, ellipsoid, rounded or pointed at the apex narrowed at
the base, white-tomentose, with pedicles 1- 2.5 cm long; stone pointed,
rugose, very hard. Ref: Dr. Almeida's flora Vol IV-B.

regards,
Rashida.



On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have few pictures with flowers but can't say whether male or female.
 Dr Satish Phadke


 On 11 March 2011 12:56, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Our very popular tree *Putranjiva roxburghii Wall.* synonym Drypetes
 roxburghii (Wall.) Hurus was in the  Euphorbiaceae family is now under
 the family of Putranjivaceae as per the Kew Plant List. Saw this huge tree
 in Feb. 2011  at Rani Baug, Mumbai.   This is an evergreen tree, flowers in
 March -May. Flowers are dioeciuos. Male flowers  in rounded axillary
 clusters on the main or on short axillary branches. Female flowers 1-3 in an
 axil; pedicels 8- 10 mm long.


 regards,
 Rashida.





Re: [efloraofindia:64988] Kalatope id al140311a

2011-03-15 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thnakyou for this important information Sir and Alok ji for the nice
pictures. Any particular reasons Sir  for why this plant genome is analysed
thoroughly ?

regards,
Rashida.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Perhaps Arabidopsis thaliana, the botanical wonder. The only species other
 than man whose genome is thoroughly analysed.


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 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Alok Mahendroo alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear friends,
 Another one from the fields.. mustard family...??

 Location Kalatope, Chamba
 Altitude 2100 mt
 Habitat: Periphery of the fields
 Habit : Herb
 Season : March
 Height: 4-5 inches
 Regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:64989] EUPHORBIACEAE WEEK :: Phyllanthus emblica

2011-03-15 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Muthu ji. Brandis has mentioned for this plant -pg 570 : as  bark
greenish -gray, peeling off in *conchoid scales, * wood red, hard, med. rays
broad, conspicuous on a vertical  section.   So the natural fracturing in
the wood, bark would lead some sort of scales looking like scallop shell?!!


regards,
Rashida.


On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Rashidaji,
 *con·choi·dal*: Denoting a type of fracture in a solid (such as flint or
 quartz) that results in a smooth rounded surface resembling the shape of a
 scallop shell.

 Dear Sathishji,
 Did you checked with *Phyllanthus indofischeri* Bennet? It differs in size
 of leaf and no. of pairs in a rachis and fruit (wild) size.

 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Rashida ji
 This is what I liked. Finding out some characters from the photographs.
 As non botanists I am not conversant with handling herbarium
 specimens.Photographing can find at least some
 Dr Phadke


 On 14 March 2011 21:04, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the pictures are so good, keep them coming Satish ji , thanks. These
 are also complementary to the wonderful ones uploaded by Dr. Gurcharan ji
 last week.  Here the fimbriate bracts at the base of flowers are clearly
 seen and the distichous sub-sessile leaves.  The bark peels off in
 conchoidal flakes ! (Can someone Please explain what exactly is the meaning
 of conchoidal ?).

 Amlas are great to have in the field, dried, salted and sweetend ones.!!
 Family now  is  *Phyllanthaceae : Phyllanthus emblica L.*

 regards,
 Rashida.

  On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Really nice photographs, Satish ji


 --
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 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Phyllanthus emblica*
 Though the EUPHORBIACEAE WEEK is over I couldn't resist posting the
 good specimen of flowers which I observed yesterday in Smruti Udyan Pune.
 Dr Phadke










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 Care Earth Trust
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 Thillai ganga nagar,
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 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




Re: [efloraofindia:64990] Re: TREE ID REQUEST

2011-03-15 Thread Rashida Atthar
Nudrat ji the picture above  may or may  not be Bridelia. But the black
berries of Bridelia retusa take time to turn black, before that they are of
various colours- grey- green, green, yellowish, half green yellow maroon
and than turn black . Infact, most of the time I have seen them in unripe
form only. You may check my pictures of the same posted last week.

regards,
Rashida.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Nudrat nudrat@gmail.com wrote:



 On Mar 13, 4:13 pm, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:
  Diospyros malabarica?...  validate plz
 
  On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Hello,

 The tree in question is neither Diospyros malabarica as the persistent
 calyx is absent and nor is the tree Bridelia retusa as fruits of
 Bridelia are shiny berries almost black in colour.

 However i could be incorrect. Experts please comment
 
   More possibility for this to be Bridelia retusa - the leaf nerves and
   venation  a clue. More close- up pictures will be appreciated if
   available.
 
   regards,
   Rashida.
 
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com
 wrote:
Diospyros sps?
 
On Mar 13, 10:16 am, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.com wrote:
ON DAY TO DAY TRAIL IN THE KAIGA FOREST, FOUND THIS TREE WITH FRUIT
 
Date/Time-: 12/03/11 14:20
 
Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380
 mtrs
 
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild
 
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  TREE
 
Height/Length-7m
 
With Regards,
PUTTARAJU K,
SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
KARNATAKA -581400
MOB : 9448999150
EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
 kputtar...@npcil.co.in
 
 DSC_0108.JPG
390KViewDownload
 
  --
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  308 Disha Residency,
  Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
  Mob.09422379568



Re: [efloraofindia:64992] ID Req. fr climber of kaiga

2011-03-15 Thread Rashida Atthar
How about Clematis gouriana ?

regards,
Rashida.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes Prashant ji
 It may be Clematis but Puttaraju ji if it is possible then please provide
 more close ups or large size images.
 Thank you


 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Puttaraju ji,
 More close ups could have helped us in proper ID.
 I feel this could be some *Clematis* sp. ( Ranunculaceae Family).
 regards
 Prashant


 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:31 PM, PUTTARAJU K 
 pakshirajka...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear All
 During my bird study , I found this climber in the kaiga forest.
 ID requested for the following attachment.

 Date/Time-: 9/03/11 14:00

 Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,   380 mtrs

 Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-Wild

 Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-   Climber

 Height/Length- 5 mtrs

 Flowers Color   - White



 With Regards,
 PUTTARAJU K,
 SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
 KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
 POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
 KARNATAKA -581400
 MOB : 9448999150
 EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
  kputtar...@npcil.co.in





 --
 Mr. Mayur D. Nandikar,
 Research Student,
 Department of Botany,
 Shivaji University,
 Kolhapur.



Re: [efloraofindia:65000] Kalatope id al140311a

2011-03-15 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou very much Sir, very, very interesting reading these pages.

regards,
Rashida.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rashida ji
 These pages from my book should answer your question.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Thnakyou for this important information Sir and Alok ji for the nice
 pictures. Any particular reasons Sir  for why this plant genome is analysed
 thoroughly ?

 regards,
 Rashida.
   On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
 singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Perhaps Arabidopsis thaliana, the botanical wonder. The only species
 other than man whose genome is thoroughly analysed.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Alok Mahendroo 
 alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear friends,
 Another one from the fields.. mustard family...??

 Location Kalatope, Chamba
 Altitude 2100 mt
 Habitat: Periphery of the fields
 Habit : Herb
 Season : March
 Height: 4-5 inches
 Regards
 Alok
 --
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 Village Khudgot,
 P.O. Dalhousie
 District Chamba
 H.P. 176304, India
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 www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
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Re: [efloraofindia:65002] Re: Fam. Euphorbiaceae Week :: - Anda Gomesii A. juss. - A tree of Brazil

2011-03-15 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Raghu ji for very well illustrated post of one more Euphorbiaceae !

regards,
Rashda.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Joannesia princeps *indeed
 very nice catch Raghu Ji
 Tanay

 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joannesia princeps.   Earlier I reported this tree from Mysore city
 also.

 On Mar 15, 10:01 am, raghu ananth raghu_...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Anda Gomesii A. juss. - A tree of Brazil
  Fam. Euphorbiaceae
  Hab. S. Brazil
 
 
 
  Fruits Large size-15cms, Oval nut containing two seeds
  Tall tree -90 feet,
 
  Date:13/Apr 2008 05.44 PM
  Lalbagh, Bangalore
  Photo:
 
  Regards
  Raghu
 
 
 
 
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   DSC_6661b1.jpg
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   Tree1a.jpg
  264KViewDownload




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
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Re: [efloraofindia:64895] EUPHORBIACEAE WEEK -- Fluegggea revisited

2011-03-14 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Sinha ji for posting this interesting species and earlier discussoins
on the same.  Would like to inform that as per Kew Plant Llist  Fluggea
species are now in the family Phyllanthaceae.  The species under discussion
are two distinct species :
I) Fluggea leucopyrus Willd. (accepted name ) syn- Securinega leucopyrus
(Willd) Muell-Arg
2) Fluggea virosa (Roxb. ex Willd.) Royle (accepted name ) syn - Securinega
virosa (Roxb.ex Willd.) Pax.  Hoffm.

Your picture appears to me as Fluggea virosa due to the description you have
given of spines only in the lower main branches, and I can see small
lenticular specks on the bark which is indicative of the species.In Fluggea
leucopyrus the branches are somewhat straggling, branchlets angular,
slender, and ending in sharp spines.

A simple key from Dr. Almeida's flora Vol IV-B pg 350:

1.Unarmed; leaves 2.5-8cm long Fluggea
obovata
2.Spinous; leaves rarely exceeding 2.5 cm long---Fluggea
leucopyrus

regards,
Rashida.



On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:50 AM, A.Sinha sinha.i...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are Flueggea virosa and leucopyrus one and the same ?

 For some time i believed that the pics attached here are those of Flueggea
 leucopyrus.  This specimen had grey-whitish branches, unarmed, except the
 ends of lower branches were spine tipped.
  But  chancing upon Vijayshankar-jis comment  (1st link  ) that  the spine
 tipped branches would be an indicator for which species,
 I re-checked the descriptions from the links below.


 To my  inexpert view , the two species  descriptions are really close,  and
 even overlapping ; except for   leaf size and the F.virosa leaf being
 mucronate,
 but  according to one ref. even  F.virosa may infrequently have
 spine-tipped branches.Pictues and illustrations avlbl online also seem
 to overlap  wrt leaf blade /apex  shape

 Is presence of spine tipped brances  a definitve identifier,  , at least
 for the Indian  species  ?  And are there other differences ?

 regards
 Akhila Sinha

 Securinega 
 leucopyroshttps://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/f9c7c9ea89d75d20/201f4c6400fd3f91?hl=enlnk=gstq=flueggea#201f4c6400fd3f91
 0Efloras India)
 *Flueggea virosa* in Flora of China @ 
 efloras.orghttp://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2taxon_id=242322736
 *Flueggea virosa* (Roxb. ex Willd.) - Nationaal Herbarium 
 Nederlandhttp://www.nationaalherbarium.nl/euphorbs/specF/Flueggea.htm





Re: [efloraofindia:64897] EUPHORBIACEAE WEEK -- Fluegggea revisited

2011-03-14 Thread Rashida Atthar
Please note the correction in the generic name, it should read as* Flueggea
.*

regards,
Rashida

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Attaching type specimens from  Kew herbarium of both the speices under
 discussion.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Sinha ji for posting this interesting species and earlier
 discussoins on the same.  Would like to inform that as per Kew Plant Llist
 Fluggea species are now in the family Phyllanthaceae.  The species under
 discussion are two distinct species :
 I) Fluggea leucopyrus Willd. (accepted name ) syn- Securinega leucopyrus
 (Willd) Muell-Arg
 2) Fluggea virosa (Roxb. ex Willd.) Royle (accepted name ) syn -
 Securinega virosa (Roxb.ex Willd.) Pax.  Hoffm.

 Your picture appears to me as Fluggea virosa due to the description you
 have given of spines only in the lower main branches, and I can see small
 lenticular specks on the bark which is indicative of the species.In Fluggea
 leucopyrus the branches are somewhat straggling, branchlets angular,
 slender, and ending in sharp spines.

 A simple key from Dr. Almeida's flora Vol IV-B pg 350:

 1.Unarmed; leaves 2.5-8cm long Fluggea
 obovata
 2.Spinous; leaves rarely exceeding 2.5 cm long---Fluggea
 leucopyrus

 regards,
 Rashida.



 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:50 AM, A.Sinha sinha.i...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are Flueggea virosa and leucopyrus one and the same ?

 For some time i believed that the pics attached here are those of
 Flueggea leucopyrus.  This specimen had grey-whitish branches, unarmed,
 except the ends of lower branches were spine tipped.
  But  chancing upon Vijayshankar-jis comment  (1st link  ) that  the
 spine tipped branches would be an indicator for which species,
 I re-checked the descriptions from the links below.


 To my  inexpert view , the two species  descriptions are really close,
 and even overlapping ; except for   leaf size and the F.virosa leaf being
 mucronate,
 but  according to one ref. even  F.virosa may infrequently have
 spine-tipped branches.Pictues and illustrations avlbl online also seem
 to overlap  wrt leaf blade /apex  shape

 Is presence of spine tipped brances  a definitve identifier,  , at least
 for the Indian  species  ?  And are there other differences ?

 regards
 Akhila Sinha

 Securinega 
 leucopyroshttps://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/f9c7c9ea89d75d20/201f4c6400fd3f91?hl=enlnk=gstq=flueggea#201f4c6400fd3f91
 0Efloras India)
 *Flueggea virosa* in Flora of China @ 
 efloras.orghttp://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2taxon_id=242322736
 *Flueggea virosa* (Roxb. ex Willd.) - Nationaal Herbarium 
 Nederlandhttp://www.nationaalherbarium.nl/euphorbs/specF/Flueggea.htm







Re: [efloraofindia:64936] EUPHORBIACEAE WEEK :: Phyllanthus emblica

2011-03-14 Thread Rashida Atthar
If the pictures are so good, keep them coming Satish ji , thanks. These are
also complementary to the wonderful ones uploaded by Dr. Gurcharan ji last
week.  Here the fimbriate bracts at the base of flowers are clearly seen and
the distichous sub-sessile leaves.  The bark peels off in conchoidal
flakes ! (Can someone Please explain what exactly is the meaning of
conchoidal ?).

Amlas are great to have in the field, dried, salted and sweetend ones.!!
Family now  is  *Phyllanthaceae : Phyllanthus emblica L.*

regards,
Rashida.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Really nice photographs, Satish ji


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Phyllanthus emblica*
 Though the EUPHORBIACEAE WEEK is over I couldn't resist posting the good
 specimen of flowers which I observed yesterday in Smruti Udyan Pune.
 Dr Phadke








Re: [efloraofindia:64843] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia prostrata from Delhi

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou Sir for the pictures and the cyathia explanation. Perhaps
those interested may compare the parts with the Euphorbia diagram I
have uploaded a day  or two back from D. H. Lawrence's  book  .Sir,
would it correct to say  that  the  cyathia are on  axils of leaves or
are axillary ?


 Anisophyllum prostratum (Aiton) Haw.
Aplarina prostrata (Aiton) Raf.
Chamaesyce malaca Small
Chamaesyce prostrata (Aiton) Small
Chamaesyce villosior (Greenm.) Millsp.
Euphorbia callitrichoides Kunth
Euphorbia malaca (Small) Little
Euphorbia perforata Guss.
Euphorbia prostrata var. caudirhiza Fosberg
Euphorbia prostrata var. vestita Engelm. ex Boiss.
Euphorbia ramosa var. villosior Greenm.
Euphorbia tenella Kunth
Euphorbia trichogona Bertol.
Tithymalus prostratus (Aiton) Samp.

regards,
Rashida.



On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:51 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir Ji very nice catch of the plant
 Tanay

 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Euphorbia prostrata Aiton, Hort. kew. 2:139. 1789
 syn: Chamaesyce prostrata (Aiton) Small
 Prostrate herb with opposite leaves and cyathia arising on short 
 microphyllous branches, gland appendages minute, leaf base oblique. Common 
 in Delhi in Lawns, wastelands and cultivated fields.
 Common name: Prostrate sandmat

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




 --
 Tanay Bose
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
            604-822-2019 (Lab)
            604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 Webpages:
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/



Re: [efloraofindia:64844] Tree I D request for Dsc_0266

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
Looks like Mallotus philippinensis (Lam.) Muell .-Arg of  Euphorbiaceae family.

regards,
Rashida.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:06 PM, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 ID requested for the following attachment.( Dsc_0266)

 Date/Time-: 12/03/11   -     1 1:20

 Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs

 Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-    Wild

 Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-Tree

 Height/Length-5m

 With Regards,

 PUTTARAJU K,
 SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
 KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
 POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
 KARNATAKA -581400
 MOB : 9448999150
 EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
              kputtar...@npcil.co.in



Re: [efloraofindia:64850] Re: TREE ID REQUEST

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
More possibility for this to be Bridelia retusa - the leaf nerves and
venation  a clue. More close- up pictures will be appreciated if
available.


regards,
Rashida.


On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Diospyros sps?

 On Mar 13, 10:16 am, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.com wrote:
 ON DAY TO DAY TRAIL IN THE KAIGA FOREST, FOUND THIS TREE WITH FRUIT

 Date/Time-: 12/03/11         14:20

 Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs

 Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-    Wild

 Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  TREE

 Height/Length-7m

 With Regards,
 PUTTARAJU K,
 SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
 KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
 POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
 KARNATAKA -581400
 MOB : 9448999150
 EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
              kputtar...@npcil.co.in

  DSC_0108.JPG
 390KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:64851] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia prostrata from Delhi

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou sir, *cyathia axillary*  than.

regards,
Rashida.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 In (not on) leaf axils or axillary are both correct, latter preferred.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thankyou Sir for the pictures and the cyathia explanation. Perhaps
 those interested may compare the parts with the Euphorbia diagram I
 have uploaded a day  or two back from D. H. Lawrence's  book  .Sir,
 would it correct to say  that  the  cyathia are on  axils of leaves or
 are axillary ?


  Anisophyllum prostratum (Aiton) Haw.
 Aplarina prostrata (Aiton) Raf.
 Chamaesyce malaca Small
 Chamaesyce prostrata (Aiton) Small
 Chamaesyce villosior (Greenm.) Millsp.
 Euphorbia callitrichoides Kunth
 Euphorbia malaca (Small) Little
 Euphorbia perforata Guss.
 Euphorbia prostrata var. caudirhiza Fosberg
 Euphorbia prostrata var. vestita Engelm. ex Boiss.
 Euphorbia ramosa var. villosior Greenm.
 Euphorbia tenella Kunth
 Euphorbia trichogona Bertol.
 Tithymalus prostratus (Aiton) Samp.

 regards,
 Rashida.



 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:51 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Sir Ji very nice catch of the plant
  Tanay
 
  On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Euphorbia prostrata Aiton, Hort. kew. 2:139. 1789
  syn: Chamaesyce prostrata (Aiton) Small
  Prostrate herb with opposite leaves and cyathia arising on short
  microphyllous branches, gland appendages minute, leaf base oblique.
Common
  in Delhi in Lawns, wastelands and cultivated fields.
  Common name: Prostrate sandmat
 
  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
  http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
 
 
 
  --
  Tanay Bose
  Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
  Department of Botany.
  University of British Columbia .
  3529-6270 University Blvd.
  Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
  Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
 604-822-2019 (Lab)
 604-822-6089  (Fax)
  ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  Webpages:
  http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
  http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
  https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
 






Re: [efloraofindia:64855] Re: Euphorbiaceae week - ?Euphorbia, ID help please 20110312sm

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
Could this possible be Bromelia balansea, Mez. or Bromelia pinguin. I came
across the description  of Bormelia balansae in Aima's book Pg 64  as
follows:  A large  dense and vicious terrestrial rosette about 3 ft. tall,
used for fencing; stiff green leaves with dangerous hook spines facing both
directions; center turning red before bloom; flowers white, in paniculate
inflorescence forming branches of small.ovoid, orange yellow fruit  with
pineapple flavour. Can be easily confused with B. pinguin, but balansae has
broad sepal tips, while pinguin has needle-like sepal  tips and loose
inflorescence.

regards,
Rashida.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pankaj ji
 I marvel your keen eye.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bromeliaceae. Some of the so called Cat's Claw.
 Pankaj


 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.comwrote:

 Many Thanks Gurcharan ji and Mahadesara ji for the lead.

 Regards,

 Samir





 On Mar 12, 8:37 pm, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:
  Not Euphorbia.   Could be Agave sps.
 
  On Mar 12, 6:28 pm, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   photographed at the Veer Jijamata Udyan in early January 2011.
 
   Garden shrub, 3-4 ft; was seen growing in a huge pot; no stem, leaves
 sprang
   from very close to the ground.
   The ?flower / inflorescence was silver in color (as seen in images).
   The leaf margin had small spines; leaves stiff, smooth surface and
 curved
   laterally.
 
   Regards,
 
   Samir Mehta
 
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Re: [efloraofindia:64859] Re: Euphorbiaceae week- Trevia nudiflora L.

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
Trevia is thriving very well in the forest of Mumbai, especially at the
south end where I have seen many young saplings of the tree coming up
without the help from  Rhino !

regards,
Rashida.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Usha Desai ushande...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all
 one interesting fact.
 The fruits of Trevia nudiflora are non-succulent,large, and hard and are
 tasty tit-bits for Rhino's palate.And the seeds are deposited on
 dung-fertilised mud banks.So all along the river banks frequented by
 rhinos,trevia trees have consolidated their hold on the the land. *The sad
 part of the tale is that with the rhino tottering on the brink of
 extinction,so is trevia.* Whether the trevia goes the way of the dodo tree
 or if it is destined to be lucky .remains to be seen. *[reference:Social
 life of Plants...Sukanya Datta]
 Usha
 *

 On 12 March 2011 21:09, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the beautiful photographs and info.

 On Mar 12, 11:47 am, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:
  Trevia nudiflora L.  is a large deciduous tree. Leaves opposite,
  ovate, acuminate, glabrous and bright green above,  base cordate, 3-5
  nerved, petioles 2.5 to 8 cm long, stipules minute, acute, soon falling.
 
  In Dr. Almeida's flora  Vol IV -B pg 354, it is mentioned that Nicholson
 et
  al (1988) attribute underground water indicator properties to this
 species.
 
  The pictures attached are from the Dr. Salim Ali point trail at the
 south
  end of the forest in Mumbai which is very much sourrounded by lakes.
 
  We generally spell the generic name of this tree as* Trewia* but as per
 Kew
  Plant List the accepted name is spelled as *Trevia *and I have followed
 the
  same. A short explanation is give about the same in Dr. Almeida's flora
 Vol
  IV-B pg 354-  and I quote  The generic name *Trewia* is commonly used
 in
  taxonomic literature. However, the article 13.4 passed at Syndey
 Congress
  accepts that generic names first published  in Species Plantarum should
 be
  accepted with same spellings as correct names.
 
  The synonyms as per Kew Plant List are as follows:
 
  Trevia integerrima  Stokes
  Trevia macrophylla Roth
  Trevia macrostachya Klotzsch
  Trevia nudiflora var. dentata Susila  N. P. Balakr.
  Trevia nudiflora var (Benth) Susila  N. P. Balakr.
  Trevia nudiflora var. tomentosa Susila  N.P. Balakr.
  Trevia polycarpa Benth.
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
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Re: [efloraofindia:64860] Euphorbiaceae week-Phyllanthaceaee : Bridelia retusa (L.) A. Juss

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Dr. Usha, yes as per books it is edible, though have not tried it yet
! Fruit is manily eaten and seeds widely distributed by Green pigeon.

regards,
Rashida.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Usha Desai ushande...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rashidaji,nice pictures.
 are these fruiits edible?
 love Usha


 On 12 March 2011 19:47, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Bridelia retusa (L.) A. Juss* - now under Phyllanthaceae as per Kew
 Plant list. These pictures were taken by me at Matheran, Mah. in October
 2011.

 A small or moderate sized deciduous tree, spinous, bark grey. Leaves are
 coriaceous, elliptic- oblong, obtuse, sub-acute or rounded at the apex, with
 entire or slightly crenulate margins, bright green and glabrous above (
 turning pinkish -brown before falling) galucous and usually finely tomentose
 beneath, base usually rounded (rarely cordate); main nerves prominent,
 straight, 15-25 pairs, with finely reticulate venation inbetween.

 Drupes as can be seen in the pictures change colour from greenish to
 yellowish red and finally turn purple -black. edible.  The drupes  are
 seated on  a persistent slightly enlarged calyx 8 mm in diameter.

 There are several syonyms as per Kew Plant List as follows:

 Andrachne doonkyboisca B.Heyne ex Wall. [Invalid]
 Bridelia airy-shawii P.T.Li http://p.t.li/ [Illegitimate]
 Bridelia amoena Wall. ex Baill.
 Bridelia cambodiana Gagnep.
 Bridelia chineensis Thin
 Bridelia cinerascens Gehrm.
 Bridelia crenulata Roxb.
 Bridelia fordii Hemsl.
 Bridelia fruticosa Pers.
 Bridelia hamiltoniana var. glabra Müll.Arg.
 Bridelia pierrei Gagnep.
 Bridelia retusa (L.) Spreng.
 Bridelia retusa var. glabra Gehrm.
 Bridelia retusa var. glauca Hook.f.
 Bridelia retusa var. pubescens Gehrm.
 Bridelia retusa var. roxburghiana Müll.Arg. [Illegitimate]
 Bridelia retusa var. squamosa (Lam.) Müll.Arg.
 Bridelia retusa var. stipulata Gehrm.
 Bridelia roxburghiana (Müll.Arg.) Gehrm.
 Bridelia spinosa (Roxb.) Willd.
 Bridelia squamosa (Lam.) Gehrm.
 Bridelia squamosa var. meeboldii Gehrm.
 Clutia retusa L.
 Clutia spinosa Roxb.
 Clutia squamosa Lam.

 regards,
 Rashida.








Re: [efloraofindia:64863] Euphorbiaceae WeeK; Congrats Rashida ji, a great show

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou Sir. Your concept of the family of the month has indeed been very
educative and participative so far. Grateful for your kind words and
recognition of efforts put in . I also thank you for  your excellent posts
of various genuses,  and all members in particular Prashant ji, Satish
Phadke ji, Mani ji , Tanay, Muthu ji, Padmini ji, Samir ji, Mahadeshwar ji,
Dr. Satish Chile ji, Geeta Rane ji, kalidass ji and all. Sir, I have been
singularly lucky to have a forest in Mumbai, and an organisation like BNHS
which has exposed me to Taxonomists like Dr. Almeida and Dr. Swapna Prabhu,
and a whole host of others and ofcourse great teachers like you on ITP due
to which my interest in nature and taxonomy has taken wings. Thanks to all
once again, I have thoroughly enjoyed coordinating this week.

I shall put in some more pages later on since I am very busy the next few
weeks. The bifurcation and trifurcation  of the Euphorbiaceae family and
other aspects need to be collated further. as and when time permits I
shall put that in.

regards,
Rashida.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Euphorbiaceae Week  was another very successful episode, thanks largely to
 the good planning, participation and coordination provides by Rashida ji.
 Congrats and thanks Rashida ji on behalf of the moderators and members of
 our group.  I still don't believe that you don't have formal training in
 taxonomy. Your knowledge and approach to the study of plants is no less than
 any taxonomist. We are proud to have you in our group. Please continue the
 good work and don't allow small obstacles to hamper your enthusiasm and
 active participation in the group.
  Congratulations also to all the members who participated in this
 Euphorbiaceae week. Surely it has added a lot to the knowledge of each one
 of us.
   Let us now prepare for our next episode on Solanaceae in first week
 of April, 2011. I am still waiting for some one to volunteer as coordinator.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




Re: [efloraofindia:64864] Euphorbiaceae WeeK; Congrats Rashida ji, a great show

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou Dr. Usha.

regards,
Rashida.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Usha Desai ushande...@gmail.com wrote:

 My Dear Rashida
 I totally agree with Gurucharanji...Thanks for this phenomenal work..
 I have learn t a lot...Please continue the good work you are doing.
 much love yrs sincerely Usha


 On 13 March 2011 16:57, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Euphorbiaceae Week  was another very successful episode, thanks largely to
 the good planning, participation and coordination provides by Rashida ji.
 Congrats and thanks Rashida ji on behalf of the moderators and members of
 our group.  I still don't believe that you don't have formal training in
 taxonomy. Your knowledge and approach to the study of plants is no less than
 any taxonomist. We are proud to have you in our group. Please continue the
 good work and don't allow small obstacles to hamper your enthusiasm and
 active participation in the group.
  Congratulations also to all the members who participated in this
 Euphorbiaceae week. Surely it has added a lot to the knowledge of each one
 of us.
   Let us now prepare for our next episode on Solanaceae in first week
 of April, 2011. I am still waiting for some one to volunteer as coordinator.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/





Re: [efloraofindia:64892] Euphorbiaceae WeeK; Congrats Rashida ji, a great show

2011-03-13 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou Garg ji.

regards,
Rashida.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:01 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good work, Rashida ji.
 Pl. keep it up!!!

   On 13 March 2011 19:40, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thankyou Sir. Your concept of the family of the month has indeed been very
 educative and participative so far. Grateful for your kind words and
 recognition of efforts put in . I also thank you for  your excellent posts
 of various genuses,  and all members in particular Prashant ji, Satish
 Phadke ji, Mani ji , Tanay, Muthu ji, Padmini ji, Samir ji, Mahadeshwar ji,
 Dr. Satish Chile ji, Geeta Rane ji, kalidass ji and all. Sir, I have been
 singularly lucky to have a forest in Mumbai, and an organisation like BNHS
 which has exposed me to Taxonomists like Dr. Almeida and Dr. Swapna Prabhu,
 and a whole host of others and ofcourse great teachers like you on ITP due
 to which my interest in nature and taxonomy has taken wings. Thanks to all
 once again, I have thoroughly enjoyed coordinating this week.

 I shall put in some more pages later on since I am very busy the next few
 weeks. The bifurcation and trifurcation  of the Euphorbiaceae family and
 other aspects need to be collated further. as and when time permits I
 shall put that in.

 regards,
 Rashida.
   On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Euphorbiaceae Week  was another very successful episode, thanks largely
 to the good planning, participation and coordination provides by Rashida ji.
 Congrats and thanks Rashida ji on behalf of the moderators and members of
 our group.  I still don't believe that you don't have formal training in
 taxonomy. Your knowledge and approach to the study of plants is no less than
 any taxonomist. We are proud to have you in our group. Please continue the
 good work and don't allow small obstacles to hamper your enthusiasm and
 active participation in the group.
  Congratulations also to all the members who participated in this
 Euphorbiaceae week. Surely it has added a lot to the knowledge of each one
 of us.
   Let us now prepare for our next episode on Solanaceae in first week
 of April, 2011. I am still waiting for some one to volunteer as coordinator.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/





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Re: [efloraofindia:64808] Euphorbiaceae week: Euphorbia antiquorum L.

2011-03-12 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Muthu ji for the very nice pictures. Here's a description from Dr.
Almeida's flora ... Involucres 3-nate, forming small  pedunculate cymes,
the central flower sessile, female , the two lateral on long stout pedicels;
bracteoles numerous, laciniate; glands 5,large, broader than long. Stamens
numerous. Capsules nearly1 cm in diameter; cocci compressed, glabrous; style
2 -fid.   Flowers- Feb to May.

regards,
Rashida.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes Muthu ji, you are right
 Very nice photographs.



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Name: Euphorbia antiquorum L.
 Family: Euphorbiaceae
 Date: 03 March 2011
 Location: Namangalam RF, Chennai
 Altitude: c. 10 ASL

 Locally abundant having distinct 3-angled stem. Is my id right?
 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org







Re: [efloraofindia:64814] Euphorbiaceae week: Euphorbia antiquorum L.

2011-03-12 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes sir , but here is assumed that we know the cyathium has numerous male
flowers which are nothing but stamens and so  numerous stamens !

regards,
Rashida.

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rashida ji
 There is some confusion. In Euphorbia cyathium has numerous male flowers,
 each with one stamen. So statement about numerous stamens is wrong.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Muthu ji for the very nice pictures. Here's a description from Dr.
 Almeida's flora ... Involucres 3-nate, forming small  pedunculate cymes,
 the central flower sessile, female , the two lateral on long stout pedicels;
 bracteoles numerous, laciniate; glands 5,large, broader than long. Stamens
 numerous. Capsules nearly1 cm in diameter; cocci compressed, glabrous; style
 2 -fid.   Flowers- Feb to May.

 regards,
 Rashida.
   On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes Muthu ji, you are right
 Very nice photographs.



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.comwrote:

 Name: Euphorbia antiquorum L.
 Family: Euphorbiaceae
 Date: 03 March 2011
 Location: Namangalam RF, Chennai
 Altitude: c. 10 ASL

 Locally abundant having distinct 3-angled stem. Is my id right?
 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org











Re: [efloraofindia:64721] Euphorbiaceae week- Euphorbia Antiquorum TRIDHARI THOR from Ranibaug,Byculla Mumbao

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Geeta for the post.

Sir, I think Geeta ji has mixed up both the Euphorbias seen next to each
other at Rani Baug, Mumbia. I think the first picture is  of E. antiquorum
but the fourth one  is of E. neriifolia. As you had explained to me in my
posts  of the same two species- the spiral spines indicative of E.
neriifolia. Request Geeta ji to post close-ups if available. Thanks.

regards,
Rashida.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Geeta ji
 This one is Euphorbia neriifolia, looking from a distance. Close up of stem
 would better resolve the identification.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Geeta Rane hobby...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings from geeta rane:

 Very happy to participate in this Euphorbia Week, Appreciated your
 initiatives.
 I have learnt that in India we do not have cactus;   normally what we
 name ALL  thorny small trees is Cactus, BUT they are all EUPHORBIA.

 Reqeust for validation of ID
 sharing  photoes of Euphorbia Antiquorum taken at Veer Jijamata Udyan
 (VJU) also known as Ranibaug at Byculla, Mumbai
 Date: 13th February, 2011 in the morning
 During Tree appreciation walk organised by Team Members of Save Ranibaug.
 This is only for information please,

 Earlier thread from our group  on flowering  non flowering Euphorbia
 Antiquorum :
 
 https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/cf483b83fcd9cef2/02819f3d35300859?hl=enlnk=gstq=euphorbia+antiquorum#02819f3d35300859
 March,2008 flowering
 
 https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/2f88784369b0be5a/b2a1130ec13253ae?hl=enlnk=gstq=euphorbia+antiquorum#b2a1130ec13253ae
 
 March 2009 flowering
 
 https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/fde577c61f089fa5/61b71d7fb5edc833?hl=enlnk=gstq=euphorbia+antiquorum#61b71d7fb5edc833
 
 Feb 2010
 
 https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/3bdc6a7c03422613/64431c5bf4368850?hl=enlnk=gstq=euphorbia+antiquorum#64431c5bf4368850
 
 November, 2010
 Sorry for the inconveniences, if any,
 With Big Thanks  Prayers










Re: [efloraofindia:64729] Euphorbiaceae Week- Putranjivaceae : Putranjiva roxburghii Wall.

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for the nice pictures Mani ji.  In your second pictures the
characteristic oblique leaves are clearly seen.  Oblique meaning shorter at
one  h. point at the base of the leaf. Leaves are used in the treatment of
colds. Nuts made into rosaries and necklaces  for children to promote good
health.!

regards,
Rashida.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rashida ji, nice photos of Putranjiva tree.  I am sending some photos of
 Putranjiva tree.

 Place   : Shegaon, Dt. Buldhana, Maharashtra
 Date/time  : 18.12.10/2.00 p.m

 Regards,

 Mani.




Re: [efloraofindia:64738] Euphorbiaceae week - Euphorbia caducifolia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes indeed it is  Euphorbia caducifolia Haines. This was also the missing
one from the panaroma posted so far ! Thanks. Some keys

A pale green, dense, fleshy, dendroid shrub , upto 2 m high, with numerous
branches arising from the very base. -Aima's book pg 194.

Branches angular; stipular spines on prominent tubercles arranged in
spirals; leaves obovate or lanceolate; cyathia red- Dr. Almeida's flora ,
Vol IV-B, pg ; 304.
The milky juice is used for colds  and applied for blisters on the skin The
leaves are eaten and rarely sold in the market as a vegatable. -Aima -pg
194.

regards,
Rashida.


On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote:

 Euphorbia caducifolia Haines, Indian Forester 1914, xl. 154.

 @ Khargar Hills on 20-02-11.

 Hope id is correct.

 Regards,

 Samir Mehta



Re: [efloraofindia:64742] Euphorbiaceae Week: Phyllanthaceae, Phyllanthus fraternus from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thnakyou for the excellent, illustrated post Sir.

regards,
Rashida.




On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Phyllanthus fraternus* G. L. Webster,  Contr. Gray Herb. 176:53. 1955
 syn: *Phyllanthus niruri* sensu Hook.f. (non L.)

 A common weed of wastelands and cultivated beds in Delhi differentiated in
 male flowers occurring towards base and female towards the apex on the
 branch, and flower with 6 perianth members.


 --
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 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




Re: [efloraofindia:64750] Euphorbiaceae Week: Phyllanthus reticulatus from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou for another well illustrated post Sir.

regards,
Rashida.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:05 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very nice catch of the flowers !!
 Tanay


 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Phyllanthus reticulatus* Poir., Encycl. 5:298. 1804
 syn: *Kirganelia reticulata* (Poir.) Baill.

 Common names: Potato-bush
 Hindi: Panjuli, makhi, buinowla
 Guj: Datwan
 Mar: Pavana
 Tel: Nallapuli
 Tam: Abiranji, karunelli
 Delhi: Nealbari, makki

 Juice along with camphor used for bleeding gums; yields a red dye. fruits
 eaten at times of scarcity. stems for making baskets.

 A shrub often grown as hedge and becoming naturalised at many places in
 Delhi.


 --
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 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




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Re: [efloraofindia:64751] Euphorbiaceae Week: Phyllanthaceae, Phyllanthus emblica from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Wonderful Post of this very popular fruit tree. Part used as per the book
'Nature  Heals' are Plant, Stembark, Leaf, Root, Flower, Fruit, Seed.
Action/Uses: Fruit; refrigerant, diuretic, laxative, acrid, cooling,
carmative, stomatichic .
Flower and unripe fruit; aperient,vermifuge . Flower; cooling, refrigerant.
Root  Stembark; astringent.
Used in haemorrhagia, anaemia, jaundice, dropsy, cough, Exudation from
incisions of the fruit; external application for inflammation of the eyes.
Seeds; asthma, bronchitis, biliousness.

The interesting morphology of  this tree as seen in the pictures is the
Flowers in axillary fascicles on the leaf- bearing branchlets, often on the
naked portion below the leaves, with frimbriate bracts a the base.

regards,
Rashida.




On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Phyllanthus emblica* L.,  Sp. pl. 2:982. 1753
 syn: *Emblica officinalis* Gaertn.
 *  Mirobalanus embilica* Burm.

 Deciduous tree often planted for its fruits, often used pickled or cooked,
 a rich source of vit. C

 Common names: Emblic myrobalan, Indian gooseberry
 Hindi: Amla, amlika, aonla
 Beng: Amla, Amlaki
 Guj: Amoli, ambala
 Tel: Amalakamu, usirikai
 Tam: Nelli
 Mal: Nelli
 --
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Re: [efloraofindia:64752] Euphorbiaceae Week: Putranjivaceae, Putranjiva rorburghii from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou Sir for completing the set with the pictures of  flowers and
fruits. We have had two post of leaves today of this tree !

regards,
Rashida

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Putranjiva rorburghi*i Wall.,  Tent. fl. napal. 61. 1826
 syn:  *Drypetes roxburghii* (Wall.) Hurus.
*Nageia putranjiva* Roxb.

 A tree common in Delhi, often planted along roadsides. Wood used for
 house-building, tool-handles and turney. Decoction of leaves and stones
 given in colds and fever, leaves also for fodder

 Common names:
 Hindi: Putranjiva, putijia, jiaputta
 Beng: Putranjiva,
 Mar: Jewanputr, putajan
 Tel: Kudrajuvi, kuduru
 Tam: Irukolli, kurupallai
 Mal: Pongalam

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Re: [efloraofindia:64761] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir, wanted to clarify  two keys whether they should be included or not :
One :  Stems not  developed above ground  leaves all radical and
  Stem well developed above ground , leaves not radical
Second : Cyathia is red in E. caducifolia
  Cyathia is green in E. neriifolia.

regards,
Rashida.



On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

  Revised identification key for the woody species of Euphorbia

 Stems unarmed; without stipular spines
  Leaves shorter than 10 cm, all leaves of same colour
Stem and leaves uniformly red, leaves in whorls of three,
 petiole almost as long as blade...E. cotoniifolia
   Stem and leaves green, leaves alternate, petiole much shorter
 than blade
Leaves shorter than 2 cm, less than 2 mm broad, branches
 straight, mostly leafless
 (leaves early
 deciduous)..E.
 tirucalli
Leaves longer than 3 cm, more than 2 cm broad, branches
 zigzag, mostly with leaves...E. tithymaloides
  Leaves longer than 10 cm;  lower leaves green, upper partly or
 uniformally coloured
  - Hide quoted text -
 Leaves below the inflorescence uniformally coloured (red,
 white or yellow); leaves not lobed...E. pulcherrima
Leaves below the inflorescence coloured only at base; leaves
 lobed or not
 Base of upper leaves pale green or pale white; leaves
 lobed or not...E. heterophylla
 Base of upper leaves red; leaves
 lobed..E.
 cyathophora
 Stems armed with spines
  Spines borne on stem, usually longer than 1 cm; two showy bracts
 around cyathium...E. milii
  Spines borne on raised shield, usually shorter than 1 cm, two showy
 bracts lacking
Stem rounded, not angled or winged
Shrub wiithout trunk with branches arising from base,
 smaller leaves (3-8 cm long)

   and longer spines 0.5-1 cm.E caducifolia
Tree with distinct trunk, leaves 10-25 cm long, spines
 shorter than 0.5 cmE. nivulia).
   Stem angled or winged
 Angles not produced into wing, spirally
 arranged:... E.
 neriifolia
Angles produced into wings
 Wings 3-4
   The wings running straight, sinuate, regularly
 dentate
  Stems green without white
 bandsE. antiquorum
  Stems white wholly or
 partially
 The stems with
 white bands on faces
   Apex of stem
 not cristate (without crowns at tips)...E. lactea
   Apex of stem
 cristate (with crowns at tips)..E lactea cv. Cristata

The  stems uniformly
 greyish white.. ...E. lactea cv. White
 Ghost
  The wings running spirally,
 ...E.
 tortilis
  Wings 5-6,
 undulate.E.
 royleana



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Re: [efloraofindia:64766] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir, my clarification is for - the leaves all radical  and leaves not all
radical - should it be be a key or  not .

Sir, also request you to have  a relook at Samir ji's post and the colour of
the cyathia  I think red should be E. caducifolia and   green  should be E.
neriifolia. Sorry, but  I  feel omission of important floral elements will
lead to some confusion in the keys. Hope this is taken as constructive
criticism!

regards,
Rashida.
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rashida ji
 Stem is developed in both. In practice in shrubs the branches arising from
 base are known as stems only. The difference is of common stem better known
 as trunk. In trees we have a trunk which is single for some distance after
 which the branches arise (E. nivulia and others). In Shrubs there is no
 trunk and individual branches (stems) arise from the base.



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks a lot Pankaj ji

 Members can take help of both the keys.


 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Stem without spines
Leaves red/brown/reddish-brown ……Euphorbia cotinifolia
Leaves green or green with variegations
   Leaves usually present for short
   duration towards the terminal end of stem ..…..Euphorbia
 tirucallii
   Leaves present for longer duration
   not just confined to the terminal ends
  Leaves alternate scattered distichously
 Euphorbia tithymaloides
  Leaves alternate, scattered spirally
  (not distichously atleast)
 Bracts uniformly coloured
 (yellow or red or white in colour) ...Euphorbia
 pulcherrima
 Bracts coloured but not completely
Bracts red coloured towards
the basal part  ………..………...Euphorbia
 heterophylla
Bracts white coloured towards
the basal part ………...Euphorbia cyathophora

 Stem with spines
Stem red/brown/reddish-brown in colour,
normally not more than 1.5cm thick …...Euphorbia milii

  (excluding polyploid hybrids)
Stem green/white/greyish-green/variegated,
normally more than 3cm thick
   Stem almost cylindric
  Trunk absent, place of attachment
  of spines raised ……..Euphorbia
 caducifolia
  Trunk present, place of attachment
  of spines almost embedded atleast not raised ...Euphorbia
 nivulia
  Stem angular or winged
 Wings 3-4
   Wings straight, sinuate or dentate
  Stem green without
  white bands
 ………..…Euphorbia antiquorum
  Stem variegated with
  white or white bands
  between two wings
 ..…..…...Euphorbia lactea
 Wings spiral ……….Euphorbia
 tortilis
 Wings 5-6 ………..…...….Euphorbia
 royleana

 Varieties may be kept separately I assume.
 Key is 98% yours and I just added and deleted few things so even less
 than 2% of my knowledge involved.
 Regards
 Pankaj


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Re: [efloraofindia:64772] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir my querries based on the following key from Dr. Almeida's flora on
Euphorbia L. :
1. Stems not developed above ground; leaves all
radical---
2
  2. Cymes only once
dichotomous---
E. fusiformis
  2. Cymes 3 or more than 3 times dichotomous
-3
  3.  Cymes 3 times dichotomous; bracts triangular -acute or
triangular -lanceolate- ---E. panchganensis
  3.  Cymes 4-5 times dichotomous; bracts broadly
triangulaE.
Khandalensis
1. Stems well developed above ground; leaves not
all  
radical4
  4. -
The entire long keys follows.  Have uploaded the same in one of mails in the
last few days.

Would like to get your opinion on omission of floral info. in keys  to be
developed  and whether that would ensure correctness of the keys. Thankyou.

regards,

Rashida.





On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rashida ji
 Please clarify where you want to use radical leaves or not. All leaves
 radical means there is  no stem at all and a leafless scape would arise at
 the time of flowering to carry the inflorescence up. On the other hand if
 all leaves are not radical means there would be some radical (basal) leaves
 and then some leaves on the aerial stem.



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir, my clarification is for - the leaves all radical  and leaves not all
 radical - should it be be a key or  not .

 Sir, also request you to have  a relook at Samir ji's post and the colour
 of the cyathia  I think red should be E. caducifolia and   green  should be
 E. neriifolia. Sorry, but  I  feel omission of important floral elements
 will lead to some confusion in the keys. Hope this is taken as constructive
 criticism!

 regards,
 Rashida.
   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Rashida ji
 Stem is developed in both. In practice in shrubs the branches arising
 from base are known as stems only. The difference is of common stem better
 known as trunk. In trees we have a trunk which is single for some distance
 after which the branches arise (E. nivulia and others). In Shrubs there is
 no trunk and individual branches (stems) arise from the base.



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
 singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks a lot Pankaj ji

 Members can take help of both the keys.


 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Stem without spines
Leaves red/brown/reddish-brown ……Euphorbia
 cotinifolia
Leaves green or green with variegations
   Leaves usually present for short
   duration towards the terminal end of stem ..…..Euphorbia
 tirucallii
   Leaves present for longer duration
   not just confined to the terminal ends
  Leaves alternate scattered distichously
 Euphorbia tithymaloides
  Leaves alternate, scattered spirally
  (not distichously atleast)
 Bracts uniformly coloured
 (yellow or red or white in colour) ...Euphorbia
 pulcherrima
 Bracts coloured but not completely
Bracts red coloured towards
the basal part  ………..………...Euphorbia
 heterophylla
Bracts white coloured towards
the basal part ………...Euphorbia
 cyathophora

 Stem with spines
Stem red/brown/reddish-brown in colour,
normally not more than 1.5cm thick …...Euphorbia milii

  (excluding polyploid hybrids)
Stem green/white/greyish-green/variegated,
normally more than 3cm thick
   Stem almost cylindric
  Trunk absent, place of attachment
  of spines raised ……..Euphorbia
 caducifolia
  Trunk present, place of attachment

Re: [efloraofindia:64776] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir I think there is some confusion here.  The keys from Dr. Almeida's flora
and Aima's  book which have pictures also  do not show green cyathia.
Besides both say stipular spines on prominent tubercules are arranged
in spirals.  Perhaps the wiki plant is E. neriifolia than? . seek your
clarification. Thankyou. Will try to scan and send the pictures from Aima's
book also.

regards,
Rashida.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Samir ji
 Please look at the second photograph in your post. If they are the same
 plant, you can clearly see spirally arranged spines in the second photograph
 even from a distance. They are never so in E. caducifolia. As for the colour
 observe the following plant of E. caducifolia

 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Euphorbia_caducifolia2_ies.jpg

  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Euphorbia_caducifolia2_ies.jpg
 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.comwrote:

 'Shrub wiithout trunk with branches arising from base, smaller
 leaves (3-8 cm long) and longer spines 0.5-1 cm.E
 caducifolia

 Trunk absent, place of attachment of spines raised E.
 caducifolia'


 Gurcharan ji,

 Pankaj ji's and your (relevant portion of the) keys, for the
 identification of E. cadufolia are presented above and my relevant
 observations below:

 1) the spines on the image I posted as E. cadufolia were definitely
 0.5 cm, closer to 1cm.
 2) the place of attachment of spines is raised - no doubt on that
 score.

 The two above observations together with Rashida ji's point on color
 of cyathia make a compelling case for my post to be labeled E.
 cadufolia. May I request you to reassess your doubts in the matter.

 Regards,

 Samir




 On Mar 11, 8:46 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rashida ji
  Please clarify where you want to use radical leaves or not. All leaves
  radical means there is  no stem at all and a leafless scape would arise
 at
  the time of flowering to carry the inflorescence up. On the other hand
 if
  all leaves are not radical means there would be some radical (basal)
 leaves
  and then some leaves on the aerial stem.
 
  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
  On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   Sir, my clarification is for - the leaves all radical  and leaves not
 all
   radical - should it be be a key or  not .
 
   Sir, also request you to have  a relook at Samir ji's post and the
 colour
   of the cyathia  I think red should be E. caducifolia and   green
  should be
   E. neriifolia. Sorry, but  I  feel omission of important floral
 elements
   will lead to some confusion in the keys. Hope this is taken as
 constructive
   criticism!
 
   regards,
   Rashida.
   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Rashida ji
   Stem is developed in both. In practice in shrubs the branches arising
 from
   base are known as stems only. The difference is of common stem better
 known
   as trunk. In trees we have a trunk which is single for some distance
 after
   which the branches arise (E. nivulia and others). In Shrubs there is
 no
   trunk and individual branches (stems) arise from the base.
 
   --
   Dr. Gurcharan Singh
   Retired  Associate Professor
   SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
   Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
   Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
  http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
 singh...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   Thanks a lot Pankaj ji
 
   Members can take help of both the keys.
 
   --
 
   Dr. Gurcharan Singh
   Retired  Associate Professor
   SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
   Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
   Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
  http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:
  
   Stem without spines
  Leaves red/brown/reddish-brown ……Euphorbia
   cotinifolia
  Leaves green or green with variegations
 Leaves usually present for short
 duration towards the terminal end of stem
 ..…..Euphorbia
   tirucallii
 Leaves present for longer duration
 not just confined to the terminal ends
Leaves alternate scattered distichously
   Euphorbia tithymaloides
Leaves alternate, scattered spirally
(not distichously

Re: [efloraofindia:64782] Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sir the above keys are in Flora of Maharashtra !

regards,
Rashida.



On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rashida ji
 I don't know much about these herbaceous species. May be it is fine if
 given in Dr. Almeida's Flora. Only don't copy it as such. Modify it keeping
 Indian perspective in mind.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir my querries based on the following key from Dr. Almeida's flora on
 Euphorbia L. :
 1. Stems not developed above ground; leaves all
 radical---
 2
   2. Cymes only once
 dichotomous---
 E. fusiformis
   2. Cymes 3 or more than 3 times dichotomous
 -3
   3.  Cymes 3 times dichotomous; bracts triangular -acute or
 triangular -lanceolate- ---E. panchganensis
   3.  Cymes 4-5 times dichotomous; bracts broadly
 triangulaE.
 Khandalensis
 1. Stems well developed above ground; leaves not
 all  
 radical4
   4. -
 The entire long keys follows.  Have uploaded the same in one of mails in
 the last few days.

 Would like to get your opinion on omission of floral info. in keys  to be
 developed  and whether that would ensure correctness of the keys. Thankyou.

 regards,

 Rashida.





 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Rashida ji
 Please clarify where you want to use radical leaves or not. All leaves
 radical means there is  no stem at all and a leafless scape would arise at
 the time of flowering to carry the inflorescence up. On the other hand if
 all leaves are not radical means there would be some radical (basal) leaves
 and then some leaves on the aerial stem.



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir, my clarification is for - the leaves all radical  and leaves not
 all radical - should it be be a key or  not .

 Sir, also request you to have  a relook at Samir ji's post and the
 colour of the cyathia  I think red should be E. caducifolia and   green
 should be E. neriifolia. Sorry, but  I  feel omission of important floral
 elements will lead to some confusion in the keys. Hope this is taken as
 constructive criticism!

 regards,
 Rashida.
   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
 singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Rashida ji
 Stem is developed in both. In practice in shrubs the branches arising
 from base are known as stems only. The difference is of common stem better
 known as trunk. In trees we have a trunk which is single for some distance
 after which the branches arise (E. nivulia and others). In Shrubs there is
 no trunk and individual branches (stems) arise from the base.



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Thanks a lot Pankaj ji

 Members can take help of both the keys.


 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Stem without spines
Leaves red/brown/reddish-brown ……Euphorbia
 cotinifolia
Leaves green or green with variegations
   Leaves usually present for short
   duration towards the terminal end of stem
 ..…..Euphorbia tirucallii
   Leaves present for longer duration
   not just confined to the terminal ends
  Leaves alternate scattered distichously
 Euphorbia tithymaloides
  Leaves alternate, scattered spirally
  (not distichously atleast)
 Bracts uniformly coloured
 (yellow or red or white in colour)
 ...Euphorbia pulcherrima
 Bracts coloured but not completely

Re: [efloraofindia:64783] Re: Revised identification key for woody species of Euphorbia

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou Sir for the clarifications. So I take it that the keys in the flora
mentioning the red cyathia are incorect or incomplete which led me to  seek
these clarifications.

regards,
Rashida.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Rashida ji
 Please realise that in E. nerifolia the spines are borne on spirally
 arranged ribbed, whereas in both E. nivulia and E caducifolia the stem is
 neither ribbed, angled or winged. In E. caducifolia the cyathia are yellow
 in flower, reddish in fruit. Please see the following link

 http://www.cactuspro.com/encyclo/Euphorbia/caducifolia

  http://www.cactuspro.com/encyclo/Euphorbia/caducifolia
 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 You are right Pankaj ji
 Our idea is to develop keys which can be used by common members without
 much knowledge of floral structure. Fortunately it helps in Euphorbia which
 have little cyathial diversity except for number of glands and gland
 appendages.

  --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 My key was deliberatey based on non floral characters, except for use of
 bracts at one branch. It can be used without even touching the plant. But
 yes, the usage of floral characters is always advisable.
 Pankaj


 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Samir ji
 Please look at the second photograph in your post. If they are the same
 plant, you can clearly see spirally arranged spines in the second 
 photograph
 even from a distance. They are never so in E. caducifolia. As for the 
 colour
 observe the following plant of E. caducifolia

 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Euphorbia_caducifolia2_ies.jpg

  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Euphorbia_caducifolia2_ies.jpg
 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Samir Mehta 
 samirmeht...@gmail.comwrote:

 'Shrub wiithout trunk with branches arising from base, smaller
 leaves (3-8 cm long) and longer spines 0.5-1 cm.E
 caducifolia

 Trunk absent, place of attachment of spines raised E.
 caducifolia'


 Gurcharan ji,

 Pankaj ji's and your (relevant portion of the) keys, for the
 identification of E. cadufolia are presented above and my relevant
 observations below:

 1) the spines on the image I posted as E. cadufolia were definitely
 0.5 cm, closer to 1cm.
 2) the place of attachment of spines is raised - no doubt on that
 score.

 The two above observations together with Rashida ji's point on color
 of cyathia make a compelling case for my post to be labeled E.
 cadufolia. May I request you to reassess your doubts in the matter.

 Regards,

 Samir




 On Mar 11, 8:46 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rashida ji
  Please clarify where you want to use radical leaves or not. All
 leaves
  radical means there is  no stem at all and a leafless scape would
 arise at
  the time of flowering to carry the inflorescence up. On the other
 hand if
  all leaves are not radical means there would be some radical (basal)
 leaves
  and then some leaves on the aerial stem.
 
  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
  On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   Sir, my clarification is for - the leaves all radical  and leaves
 not all
   radical - should it be be a key or  not .
 
   Sir, also request you to have  a relook at Samir ji's post and the
 colour
   of the cyathia  I think red should be E. caducifolia and   green
  should be
   E. neriifolia. Sorry, but  I  feel omission of important floral
 elements
   will lead to some confusion in the keys. Hope this is taken as
 constructive
   criticism!
 
   regards,
   Rashida.
   On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
 singh...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   Rashida ji
   Stem is developed in both. In practice in shrubs the branches
 arising from
   base are known as stems only. The difference is of common stem
 better known
   as trunk. In trees we have a trunk which is single for some
 distance after
   which the branches

Re: [efloraofindia:64791] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia pseudograntii from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou for posting one  more Euphrorbia Sir. There is a minor variation in
the nomenclature as compared to Kew Plant List: Euphorbia pseudograntii Pax
is mentioned as the accepted name. Request your observations about the same.
The type specimen does seem to match your plant.

regards,
Rashida.

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Euphorbia pseudograntiitin Bruyns,  Taxon 55:414. 2006
  syn: *Synadenium grantii* Hook. f.

 A glabrous shrub cultivated in pots or beds in Delhi, evidently growing
 several feet tall along roadsides in South India.

 Common Name: African milk bush

 With the addition of this species the key to woody species would be revised
 as

  Stems unarmed; without stipular spines
  All leaves of same colour
   Leaves longer than 8 cm,
 green.E.
 pseudograntii
   Leaves up to 8 cm long
 Stem and leaves uniformly red, leaves in whorls of three,
 petiole almost as long as blade...E. cotoniifolia
Stem and leaves green, leaves alternate, petiole much
 shorter than blade
  Leaves shorter than 2 cm, less than 2 mm broad,
 branches straight, mostly leafless
  (leaves early
 deciduous)..E.
 tirucalli
   Leaves longer than 3 cm, more than 2 cm broad,
 branches zigzag, mostly with leaves...E. tithymaloides
 All leaves not of same colour;  lower leaves green, upper partly or
 uniformally coloured; leaves longer than 8 cm
 Leaves below the inflorescence uniformally coloured (red,
 white or yellow); leaves not lobed...E. pulcherrima
Leaves below the inflorescence coloured only at base; leaves
 lobed or not
 Base of upper leaves pale green or pale white; leaves
 lobed or not...E. heterophylla
 Base of upper leaves red; leaves
 lobed..E.
 cyathophora
 Stems armed with spines
  Spines borne on stem, usually longer than 1 cm; two showy bracts
 around cyathium...E. milii
  Spines borne on raised shield, usually shorter than 1 cm, two showy
 bracts lacking
Stem rounded, not angled or winged
Shrub wiithout trunk with branches arising from base,
 smaller leaves (3-8 cm long)

   and longer spines 0.5-1 cm.E caducifolia
Tree with distinct trunk, leaves 10-25 cm long, spines
 shorter than 0.5 cmE. nivulia).
   Stem angled or winged
 Angles not produced into wing, spirally
 arranged:... E.
 neriifolia
Angles produced into wings
 Wings 3-4
   The wings running straight, sinuate, regularly
 dentate
  Stems green without white
 bandsE. antiquorum
  Stems white wholly or
 partially
 The stems with
 white bands on faces
   Apex of stem
 not cristate (without crowns at tips)...E. lactea
   Apex of stem
 cristate (with crowns at tips)..E lactea cv. Cristata

The  stems uniformly
 greyish white.. ...E. lactea cv. White
 Ghost
  The wings running spirally,
 ...E.
 tortilis
  Wings 5-6,
 undulate.E.
 royleana


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




Re: [efloraofindia:64795] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia pseudograntii from Delhi

2011-03-11 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes Sir, thankyou, this seem logical and correct.

regards,
Rashida.

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Rashida ji
 Thanks for pointing out. I should have checked it earlier. Now according to
 my analysis the Correct name should be Euphorbia umbellata (Pax) Bruyns,
 because the author himself had made this correction in 2007, the name
 Euphorbia pseudograntii being already occupied by a totally different
 species E. pseudograntii Pax.

 The Name for our plant should accordingly be:
 *Euphorbia umbellata* (Pax) Bruyns, Euphorbia World 3: 5 2007.
 syn: *Euphorbia* *pseudograntii* Bruyns (non Pax)  [Illegitimate]
*Synadenium* *grantii* Hook.f.
*Synadenium* *umbellatum* Pax

 Accordingly in the key the name Euphorbia pseudograntii will be replaced by
 Euphorbia umbellata


   Stems unarmed; without stipular spines
  All leaves of same colour
   Leaves longer than 8 cm,
 green.E.
 umbellata
 Leaves up to 8 cm long
 Stem and leaves uniformly red, leaves in whorls of three,
 petiole almost as long as blade...E. cotoniifolia
Stem and leaves green, leaves alternate, petiole much
 shorter than blade
  Leaves shorter than 2 cm, less than 2 mm broad,
 branches straight, mostly leafless
  (leaves early
 deciduous)..E.
 tirucalli
   Leaves longer than 3 cm, more than 2 cm broad,
 branches zigzag, mostly with leaves...E. tithymaloides
 All leaves not of same colour;  lower leaves green, upper partly or
 uniformally coloured; leaves longer than 8 cm
 Leaves below the inflorescence uniformally coloured (red,
 white or yellow); leaves not lobed...E. pulcherrima
Leaves below the inflorescence coloured only at base; leaves
 lobed or not
 Base of upper leaves pale green or pale white; leaves
 lobed or not...E. heterophylla
 Base of upper leaves red; leaves
 lobed..E.
 cyathophora
 Stems armed with spines
  Spines borne on stem, usually longer than 1 cm; two showy bracts
 around cyathium...E. milii
  Spines borne on raised shield, usually shorter than 1 cm, two showy
 bracts lacking
Stem rounded, not angled or winged
Shrub wiithout trunk with branches arising from base,
 smaller leaves (3-8 cm long)

   and longer spines 0.5-1 cm.E caducifolia
Tree with distinct trunk, leaves 10-25 cm long, spines
 shorter than 0.5 cmE. nivulia).
   Stem angled or winged
 Angles not produced into wing, spirally
 arranged:... E.
 neriifolia
Angles produced into wings
 Wings 3-4
   The wings running straight, sinuate, regularly
 dentate
  Stems green without white
 bandsE. antiquorum
  Stems white wholly or
 partially
 The stems with
 white bands on faces
   Apex of stem
 not cristate (without crowns at tips)...E. lactea
   Apex of stem
 cristate (with crowns at tips)..E lactea cv. Cristata

The  stems uniformly
 greyish white.. ...E. lactea cv. White
 Ghost
  The wings running spirally,
 ...E.
 tortilis
  Wings 5-6,
 undulate.E.
 royleana



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Thankyou for posting one  more Euphrorbia Sir. There is a minor variation
 in the nomenclature as compared to Kew Plant List: Euphorbia pseudograntii
 Pax  is mentioned as the accepted name. Request your observations about the
 same. The type specimen does seem to match your plant.

 regards,
 Rashida.

 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh

Re: [efloraofindia:64661] Euphorbiaceae

2011-03-10 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankc you  for the nice pictures Dr. Satish  Chile ji. Kindly also note as
mentioned in Mani ji's post of the same plant yesterday, the current
accepted name as per Kew Plant List is *Euphorbia tithymaloides L.*

regards,
Rashida.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Satish Chile chilesat...@gmail.com wrote:


 Pedilanthus tithymaloides. Euphorbiaceae
 --
 Dr. Satish Kumar Chile



Re: [efloraofindia:64664] Euphorbiaceae week - Ricinus communis- PKA5

2011-03-10 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Mani ji for one more wonderful addition to this thread !

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:38 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks  Prashant ji and Satish ji  for the beautiful photos and Rashida ji
 for the useful information.  I am sending some photos of Castor oil plant.

 Place : Dombivli, Maharashtra
 Date  :  May 2010

 Regards,
 Mani.




Re: [efloraofindia:64666] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia helioscopia from Kashmir

2011-03-10 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes Sir it is visible in some of the tips, Tanay's diagnosis of the same
needed !

regards,
Rashida.
.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for additional information Rashida ji

 The photograph I have uploaded shows yellow rust infection along tips of
 leaves This generally turns severe in autumn. Ask Tanay for the species of
 the rust.


 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you for the pictures Sir. Thought these scanned attachments of the
 floral morphology will interest many. I was quite fascinated with the
 detailed descriptions when I was going through it. Your pictures are  also
 just right to understand and compare these diagrams with. Ref: 'Common
 Families of Flowering Plant' by Hickey and King.

 regards,
 Rashida.

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Euphorbia helioscopia a very common week in Kashmir along road sides,
 wastelands and borders of fields Details have been provided in the mail
 about Delhi plant



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/








Re: [efloraofindia:64713] Re: Euphorbiaceae week

2011-03-10 Thread Rashida Atthar
No problem Samir ji. Hope you were able to access the .doc document. I will
be uploading more collated write- up after the week is over with more
diagrams and break up of the Euphorbiaceae families and the genuses.

regards,
Rashida.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please ignore earlier mail.
 Apologies,
 Samir

 On Mar 11, 8:32 am, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Rashida ji,
 
  Some of us are unable to view your write up as it is in  .docx
  format;
  Earnest request that please upload your write up in .doc format.
 
  Kind Regards,
 
  Samir
 
  On Mar 7, 8:54 am, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   *As most of you are aware, this month for a week starting Monday 7
 March
   2011 upto Sunday 13 March 2011 the family of focus on the group is
   Euphorbiaceae. It is a very important, large, interesting and
 fascinating
   family!*
   **
   *We have had very high standards of coordinating these family weeks
 starting
   with Dr. Balkar ji, Dr. Ritesh ji, Dinesh ji and  Mayur ji. Being a
   non-botanist I shall try to provide coordination to this  episode to
 the
   best possible  extent, within the constraints of time and my other
   commitments.   *
   **
   *I shall also like to appeal to the many distinguished members who have
   joined recently and also who are present since a long time to
 participate
   and enrich this forum with their interactions and inputs. There are
 many new
   developments in the field which only experts can enlighten us on.
  Hoping
   for  another great learning and enriching week on efloraofindia, here's
 my
   first very short write-up and pictures on Euphorbiaceae. *
   **
   *From the several postings we have  had on the family in the past
 years,
 28 genus or so, the follwing have now been transferred to the
   Phyllanthaceae family as per Kew Plant LIst : Actephila, Antidesma,
 Aporosa,
   Baccaurea, Bridelia,  Cleistanthus, Glochidion,, Phyllanthus, Sauropus,
   Securinega. These aspects will need more discussions, inputs.*
   **
   **
   *regards,*
   *Rashida. *
 
Euphorbiaceae Week-write up.docx
   325KViewDownload



Re: [efloraofindia:64714] Re: Euphorbiaceae

2011-03-10 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for the information Mahadeshwar ji.

regards,
Rsahida.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is a most common hedge plant in ChennaI,  as it does not need
 much watering.

 On Mar 10, 4:09 pm, Satish Chile chilesat...@gmail.com wrote:
  Pedilanthus tithymaloides. Euphorbiaceae
  --
  Dr. Satish Kumar Chile
 
   IMG0478A.jpg
  522KViewDownload
 
   IMG0479A.jpg
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   IMG0480A.jpg
  768KViewDownload
 
   P.tithymaloides
  764KViewDownload
 
   Pedilanthus tithymaloides
  596KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:64715] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia helioscopia from Kashmir

2011-03-10 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks a lot Tanay for this important information and link to the details.
 Such a large and interesting family had to have a pathogen!!

regards,
Rashida.



On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:59 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sir Ji and Rashida Ji,

 Probably the fungi is Melampsora euphorbiae, this rust fungi is know to
 have a
 considerable host range. As the name suggests, it is a pathogen for *Euphorbia
 sp *only.
 For more information kindly go though the link below ..
 http://www.eppo.org/QUARANTINE/Alert_List/fungi/Melampsora_euphorbiae.htm

 http://www.eppo.org/QUARANTINE/Alert_List/fungi/Melampsora_euphorbiae.htm
 Tanay


 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes Sir it is visible in some of the tips, Tanay's diagnosis of the same
 needed !

 regards,
 Rashida.
 .

   On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for additional information Rashida ji

 The photograph I have uploaded shows yellow rust infection along tips of
 leaves This generally turns severe in autumn. Ask Tanay for the species of
 the rust.


 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for the pictures Sir. Thought these scanned attachments of the
 floral morphology will interest many. I was quite fascinated with the
 detailed descriptions when I was going through it. Your pictures are  also
 just right to understand and compare these diagrams with. Ref: 'Common
 Families of Flowering Plant' by Hickey and King.

 regards,
 Rashida.

 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Euphorbia helioscopia a very common week in Kashmir along road sides,
 wastelands and borders of fields Details have been provided in the mail
 about Delhi plant



 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/









 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/





Re: [efloraofindia:64551] [indiantreepix:23358] What is this Herb?

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Muthu ji I too think your plant is *Acalypha ciliata Forsk*.

The keys to differentiate the three closely related Acalypha species  from
Dr. Almeida's flora Vol -IV  B pg: 281 -

1. Herbaceous plants, naturally growing wild---2
2. Bracts concealing the capsules-3
3. Bracts shortly dentate, truncate--- A. indica
3. Bracts 3 -lobed - A. supera
3. Bracts fimbriate- A.
ciliata

regards,
Rashida.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 forwarding for further clarification.

 Could this be *Acalypha ciliata*, if i am not wrong. The bract is
 distinctly ciliate here. - Vijayasankarji

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:23358] What is this Herb?
 To: Vijayasankar Raman vijay.botan...@gmail.com
 Cc: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com, indiantreepix 
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Dr Santhosh Kumar 
 drsanthosh1...@gmail.com, Vijayadas D vijayad...@gmail.com


 Yes, it must be *A. ciliata*, Vijayasankar ji. I have yet to learn
 differentiating other *Acalypha* species from *A. indica*.
 Regards.



  On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Vijayasankar Raman 
 vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Dinesh ji,

 Could this be *Acalypha ciliata*, if i am not wrong. The bract is
 distinctly ciliate here.

 --
 With regards

 R. Vijayasankar
 FRLHT, Bangalore





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Re: [efloraofindia:64554] Re: Fwd: Euphorbiaceae for id 150510MK3

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Muth ji , I think these leaves and fruits belong to Aporosa cardiosperma
(Gaertn.) Merr. Petioles bulgeing  at both ends as you have
mentioned,  fruits globose pointed with the style, leaves glabrous acuminate
all indicative of Aporosa species. You may check the details with the
pictures of Aporosa I have uploaded a while back,  and also compare with G.
zeylanicum  I have uploaded yesterday.

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:



 Forwarded conversation

 Subject: Euphorbiaceae for id 150510MK3
 

 From: *Muthu Karthick* nmk@gmail.com

 Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 4:31 PM
  To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear members,
 Please help to identify this plant.

*Date/Time-*

 30-04-2010 / 11:00 AM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-*

 Mudumalai; 890 msl; TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 moist deciduous forest

 *Plant Habit-*

 Shrub or small tree

 *Height/Length-*

 might be up to 4 metre

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 Alternate 8 x 4cm; sub-coriaceous(sub-leathery); oblong; acute tip; petiole
 bulged at both the ends

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 axillary cyme, stipules present

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 calyx 2 -3mm

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *
 ca.1 cm across; seeds 6

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Junior Research Fellow
 Care Earth Trust
 Chennai - 61
 www.careearthtrust.org

 --
 From: *Muthu Karthick* nmk@gmail.com

 Date: Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:46 PM
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com



 Could this be any species of *Glochidion ?*

 --
 From: *Muthu Karthick* nmk@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM

 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com





 --
 From: *C KUNHIKANNAN* kunhikan...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM
 To: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com


 It is Glochidion sp. It is very confusing genus for species identity. You
 have to collect both male and female flowers of same plant and study. if it
 is near the streams or river then it can be G.zeylanicum
 kunhikannan

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 Forest Campus,  R.S.Puram,
 Coimbatore-641002, Tamilnadu.

 --
 From: *Muthu Karthick* nmk@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:57 PM
 To: C KUNHIKANNAN kunhikan...@gmail.com


 Many thanks for the information sir.

 --
 From: *J.M. Garg* jmga...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:30 AM
 To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com, Vijayasankar Raman 
 vijay.botan...@gmail.com, Mahadeswara Swamy swamy_c...@yahoo.com,
 navendu page navendu.p...@gmail.com


 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

 Some earlier relevant feedback:

 “Could this be *any species of Glochidion* ?” from Muthu ji.




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 From: *Smilax004* giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:02 PM
 To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Hi,

 Glochidion most probably Glochidion zeylanicum. Check it with any
 flora preferably Gamble with flower.

 Regards
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   Chennai - 61www.careearthtrust.org
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   E 092.jpg
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 From: *Muthu Karthick* nmk@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:49 PM
 To: Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
 Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 A kind reply from Dr. C.Kunhikannan: It is Glochidion sp. It is very
 confusing genus for species identity. You have to collect both male and
 female flowers of same plant and study. if it is near the streams or river
 then it can be *G.zeylanicum*
 --

 --
 From: *Giby Kuriakose* giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:23 PM
 To: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com
 Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 

Re: [efloraofindia:64575] [indiantreepix:23358] What is this Herb?

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou for confirming the ID Kalidass ji.

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:50 PM, kalidass Chinnamadasamy 
kalidassin...@gmail.com wrote:

 it should be confomred Acalypha ciliata .


 KALIDASS

   On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.comwrote:

 Kindly confirm this *Acalypha* sp.

 Forwarded conversation
 Subject: What is this Herb?
 

 From: *Muthu Karthick* nmk@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:51 PM
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Dr Santhosh Kumar drsanthosh1...@gmail.com, Vijayasankar Raman 
 vijay.botan...@gmail.com, Vijayadas D vijayad...@gmail.com


 This plant found growing in the sand beds of River Tamaraparani in
 Tirunelveli Dist. of TamilNadu. I took this picture on 15-11-2009.

 Please help to identify this herb.

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Junior Research Fellow
 Care Earth
 Chennai
 www.careearthtrust.org

 --
 From: *Dinesh Valke* dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:04 PM
 To: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com
 Cc: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Dr Santhosh Kumar 
 drsanthosh1...@gmail.com, Vijayasankar Raman vijay.botan...@gmail.com,
 Vijayadas D vijayad...@gmail.com


 ... most probably *Acalypha indica* ... commonly known as: Indian
 acalypha, Indian copperleaf, Indian nettle, three-seeded-mercury • Bengali:
 মুক্তঝুরি muktajhuri, শ্বেত বসন্ত sbeta basanta • Gujarati: vanchi kanto •
 Hindi: कुप्पीखोखली kuppikhokhali • Kannada: ಕುಪ್ಪುಗಿಡ kuppugida • Malayalam:
 കുപ്പമേനി kuppameni • Marathi: कुपी kupi • Sanskrit: हरित मञ्जरी harita
 manjari • Tamil: கொழிப்பூண்டு koli-p-puntu, குப்பைமேனி kuppai-meni • Telugu:
 హరితమంజరి harita-manjari, కుప్పి kuppi


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 Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:09 PM
 To: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
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 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Dr Santhosh Kumar 
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 Dear Dinesh ji,

 Could this be *Acalypha ciliata*, if i am not wrong. The bract is
 distinctly ciliate here.

 --
 With regards

 R. Vijayasankar
 FRLHT, Bangalore

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 From: *Muthu Karthick* nmk@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:13 PM
 To: Vijayasankar Raman vijay.botan...@gmail.com
 Cc: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com, indiantreepix 
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Dr Santhosh Kumar 
 drsanthosh1...@gmail.com, Vijayadas D vijayad...@gmail.com


 Yes, the plant is not *A. indica*. Might be *A. ciliata* as suggested
 by Vijayasankar Ramanji.
 Thank you for the help.

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 From: *J.M. Garg* jmga...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:13 PM
 To: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com


 Hi, Muthu ji,
 Pl. follow numbering of Id requests as per posting guidelines.

 2009/11/18 Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com

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 Cc: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com, indiantreepix 
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Dr Santhosh Kumar 
 drsanthosh1...@gmail.com, Vijayadas D vijayad...@gmail.com


 Yes, it must be *A. ciliata*, Vijayasankar ji. I have yet to learn
 differentiating other *Acalypha* species from *A. indica*.
 Regards.





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 From: *Muthu Karthick* nmk@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:01 PM
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 forwarding for further clarification.

 Could this be *Acalypha ciliata*, if i am not wrong. The bract is
 distinctly ciliate here. - Vijayasankarji
 Care Earth Trust
 Chennai - 61
 www.careearthtrust.org

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 Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:53 PM
 To: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com

Re: [efloraofindia:64576] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia lactea Haw.

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thank you Sir for this information.
regards,
Rashida.
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 This cultivar of Euphorbia lactea is slightly different from the typical
 plant in being greyish-white overall and known as 'White Ghost.'
 The typical E. lactea has green angles and white bands on the faces



 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Very unique and interesting Euphorbia Sir, thank you for sharing the same.

 regards,
 Rashida.



 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Euphorbia lactea* Haw. Syn. Pl. Succ. 127 1812.
 syn: *Euphorbia lactea* Roxb

 This interesting shrub I photographed at Delhi University Flower Show,
 looking like E. antiquorum but with white stem. Small shrub or tree 3-4
 angled, the sides white, spines in pairs on the ridges.
 The plant is not known to flower, often confused with and sold as E.
 antiquorum

  Common names: Candelabra cactus, False cactus, Hatback, Dragon bones.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/







Re: [efloraofindia:64578] Euphorbiaceae week - Ricinus communis- PKA5

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Good pictures  Satisjh ji, that should make it a complete
morphology learning set !

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very useful and good information Rashida ji
 Adding some of my pictures taken in Mahabaleshwar.
 Dr Phadke


 On 8 March 2011 12:01, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here's the 2nd page.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Prashant ji this is a great post. I think these are the only pictures I
 have ever seen with the top panicles of  female flower  cymes having turned
 into spiny fruits and the lower  panicles of male flower cymes still
 flowering seen together on this castor oil plant.

 Attaching a very good description of the plant and the diagram with
 explanations of each of the morphology parts.- (Ref: Common families of
 flowering plants by  Hickey and King, pg 98 -99).

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Friends,
 **
 *Bot. name: Ricinus communis*
 (Family: Euphorbiaceae).
 Common name: Castor Oil Plant, Arandi
 Location: Aurangabad
 Date: 27-12-2009

 Thanks  best wishes
 Prashant







Re: [efloraofindia:64584] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia lactea 'Cristata' from Delhi

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thank you Sir for the nice pictures and explanation of this Euphorbia. We
are having the most delightful panoramic viiew of all the Euphorbias from
you along with other plants from the family since  last hree days!   Thanks
once again.

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:43 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think this is quite common garden plant
 Tanay


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Euphorbia lactea 'Cristata' from Delhi This cultivar of E. lactea has tips
 of branches forming cristate shape like a cock's comb.
 Please note the typical straight branches of E lactea with white bands on
 the faces in third photograph.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
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 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/





Re: [efloraofindia:64585] Euphorbiaceae Week: Excoecaria cochinchinensis from Delhi, the Laila majnu

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes the leaves are beautiful. Infact I think Euphorbiaceae's have the most
colouful and beautiful leaves and fascinating designer  flowers !!

regards,
Rashida.



On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:44 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gorgeous leaf !!
 Tanay


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Excoecaria cochinchinensis* Lour., Fl. Cochinch. 2:612. 1790
 syn: *Excoecaria bicolor* (Hassk.) Zoll. ex Hassk.

 Ornamental shrub often grown in Delhi for its attractive leaves green
 above, red beneath

 Common name: Chinese croton. local gardeners call it Laila Majnu

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/





Re: [efloraofindia:64589] Euphorbiaceae week - Redbird cactus (Pedilanthus tithymaloides)

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for the beautiful post Mani ji. The correct accepted name as per
Kew Plant List is* Euphobia tithymaloides L.*   The synonyms are as follows:
Pedilanthus tithymaloides (L.) Poit
   Pedilanthus tithymaloides subsp. tithymaloides
  Tithymalus tithymaloides (L.) Croizat

regards,
Rashida.


On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:39 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear friends,

 Sending photos of Redbird cactus.


 Botanical name : Pedilanthus tithymaloides
 Place   :  Sanjay Gandhi National Park  (Thane end)
 Date :  May 2009
 Others :  Attracts nectar loving birds


 Regards,

 Mani



Re: [efloraofindia:64592] Euphorbiaceae week- Euphorbia leucocephala -PKA6

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes Sorry  for my confusion of  both the species.

regards,
Rashida.



On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rashida ji
 You have confused between E. leucocephala and E. leucophylla They are two
 different species. E leucocephala has small white leaves surrounding the
 inflorescence as seen in both Prashant ji and Satish ji's photographs


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have seen herbarium specimen of this but not a live plant.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Wonderful sets of Euphorbia leucophylla Benth. Attaching one type
 specimen from Kew herbarium.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Farida Abraham 
 fa.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 we call it snow on the mountain FA


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Prashant for this showy plant
 Attaching my images of hopefully the same plant. I was not aware of the
 name earlier.
 Dr Phadke


 On 8 March 2011 11:33, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,
 Came across this shrub at Kondwa- Pune.
 Bot. name: *Euphorbia leucocephala,*
 Family: Euphorbiaceae,
 Common names: Snow Bush,  White Small Leaf Poincettia, Snow Flake,

 Thanks  best wishes
 Prashant..





 --
 Mrs. F. Abraham.
 Principal,
 La Martiniere Girls' College,
 Lucknow 226001.











Re: [efloraofindia:64594] Euphorbiaceae week- Euphorbia leucocephala -PKA6

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Here's the correct type specimen from Kew herbarium  for *Euphorbia
leucocephala Lotsy.* Sorry for my previous post with the  type specimen
which is of a different species.

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes Sorry  for my confusion of  both the species.

 regards,
 Rashida.



 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Rashida ji
 You have confused between E. leucocephala and E. leucophylla They are two
 different species. E leucocephala has small white leaves surrounding the
 inflorescence as seen in both Prashant ji and Satish ji's photographs


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have seen herbarium specimen of this but not a live plant.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Wonderful sets of Euphorbia leucophylla Benth. Attaching one type
 specimen from Kew herbarium.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Farida Abraham 
 fa.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 we call it snow on the mountain FA


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Prashant for this showy plant
 Attaching my images of hopefully the same plant. I was not aware of
 the name earlier.
 Dr Phadke


 On 8 March 2011 11:33, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,
 Came across this shrub at Kondwa- Pune.
 Bot. name: *Euphorbia leucocephala,*
 Family: Euphorbiaceae,
 Common names: Snow Bush,  White Small Leaf Poincettia, Snow Flake,

 Thanks  best wishes
 Prashant..





 --
 Mrs. F. Abraham.
 Principal,
 La Martiniere Girls' College,
 Lucknow 226001.












Re: [efloraofindia:64596] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia lactea 'Cristata' from Delhi

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thank you Sir for this truely learning experience. How to actually develop
simple keys of difficult to differentiate species.! Shall try to follow
this. Thanks once again.

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Rashida ji

 Perhaps we can expand the key for woody species of Euphorbia as under:

  Stem rounded, not angled or
 winged:
   E. nivulia
 Stem angled or winged
Angles not produced into wing, spirally
 arranged:.. E.
 neriifolia
Angles produced into wings
   Wings 3-4
   wings running straight, sinuate,
 regularly dentate
  Stems green without white
 bands  ,..:E. antiquorum
  Stems white wholly or
 partially
 Stems with white
 bands on faces
Stem apex
 not cristate (without crowns at tips)...E. lactea
Stem apex
 cristate (with crowns at tips)..E lactea cv. Cristata

 Stems uniformly
 greyish whiteE. lactea cv. White
 Ghost
   wings running spirally,
 .E.
 tortilis
Wings 5-6,
 undulate...E.
 royleana


 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you Sir for the nice pictures and explanation of this Euphorbia. We
 are having the most delightful panoramic viiew of all the Euphorbias from
 you along with other plants from the family since  last hree days!   Thanks
 once again.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:43 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think this is quite common garden plant
 Tanay


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Euphorbia lactea 'Cristata' from Delhi This cultivar of E. lactea has
 tips of branches forming cristate shape like a cock's comb.
 Please note the typical straight branches of E lactea with white bands
 on the faces in third photograph.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/









Re: [efloraofindia:64597] Re: Euphorbiaceae Week: Acalypha indica from Delhi

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Mr. Pudji  for this interesting information !

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Pudji Widodo pudjiuns...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cats like to eat the roots of this plant.

 Pudji Widodo
 Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
 PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA


Re: [efloraofindia:64628] Euphorbia tirucalli

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thnaks a lot for this wonderful post Padmini ji. Yes indeed this is
Euphorbia tirucalli. Common names Pencil Tree/ Milkbush/RubberFinger Trees/
Tiru-Malu .This one was missing in the panaroma of Euphorbias provided  so
far !

It is called Pencil tree because of the tough, spineless shrub with pencil
like dark green branches and a few small grass-green leaves at the tips of
growing branches as seen in your pictures. The flowers are aslo found
clustered at the apexes of the branches, and  the plant produces a milky
sap.

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hope I have the id right.
  Regards,
 Padmini Raghavan.



Re: [efloraofindia:64632] Euphorbia tirucalli-contd.

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Padmini ji most of the Euphorbiaceae plants with latex are poisonous for
humans and if goes in the eyes would lead to vision problems. Quite a few of
the Euporbiaceae otherwise have medecinal uses and are significant for oil,
fuel, energy  and other economic uses.

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found this excerpt from the net quite alarming.







 *Euphorbia tirucalli* (also known as *Firestick Plants*, *Indian Tree
 Spurge*, *Naked Lady*, *Pencil Tree*, *Sticks on Fire* or *Milk 
 Bush*)(Sanskrit:
 सप्तला saptala, सातला satala,Marathi : sher-kandvel शेर-कांडवेल) is a
 shrub https://mail.google.com/wiki/Shrub that grows in 
 semi-aridhttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Semi-arid
 tropical https://mail.google.com/wiki/Tropical 
 climateshttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Climate
 .

 It has a wide distribution in Africa, being prominently present in
 northeastern, central and southern Africa. It may also be native in other
 parts of the continent as well as some surrounding islands and the Arabian
 peninsula and has been introduced to many other tropical regions. Its status
 in India is uncertain. It grows in dry areas, and is often used to feed
 cattle or as 
 hedging.[1]https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-iucn-0It
  is well known in Sri Lanka where it is called
 Sinhala https://mail.google.com/wiki/Sinhala_language: නවහන්දි Navahandi
 [3]https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-2in
 Sinhalese https://mail.google.com/wiki/Sinhala_language.

 Milk bush is a hydrocarbon 
 planthttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Hydrocarbon_plantthat produces a poisonous
 latex https://mail.google.com/wiki/Latex which can, with little effort,
 be converted to the equivalent of 
 gasolinehttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Gasoline.
 This led chemist https://mail.google.com/wiki/Chemist Melvin 
 Calvinhttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Melvin_Calvinto propose the exploitation 
 of milk bush for producing oil. This usage is
 particularly appealing because of the ability of milk bush to grow on land
 that is not suitable for most other crops. Calvin estimated that 10 to 50
 barrels of oil https://mail.google.com/wiki/Oil per acre was achievable.
 It has also been used in the production of rubber, but this was not very
 successful.[1]https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-iucn-0

 Milk bush also has uses in traditional 
 medicinehttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Complementary_and_alternative_medicinein
  many cultures. It has been used to treat cancers, excrescences, tumors,
 and warts in such diverse places as 
 Brazilhttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Brazil,
 India https://mail.google.com/wiki/India, 
 Indonesiahttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Indonesia,
 Malabar https://mail.google.com/wiki/Malabar and 
 Malaysiahttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Malaysia.
 It has also been used as an application for 
 asthmahttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Asthma,
 cough, earache, neuralgia https://mail.google.com/wiki/Neuralgia,
 rheumatism https://mail.google.com/wiki/Rheumatism, toothache, and warts
 in 
 India.[4]https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-3There
  is some interest in milk bush as a
 cancer https://mail.google.com/wiki/Cancer treatment. However Euphorbia
 Tirucalli has been associated with Burkitt's 
 lymphomahttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Burkitt%27s_lymphomaand thought to be a
 cofactor https://mail.google.com/wiki/Cofactor_(biochemistry) of the
 disease rather than a treatment 
 [5]https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-4

 In the 1980s the Brazilian national 
 petroleumhttps://mail.google.com/wiki/Petroleumcompany
 Petrobras https://mail.google.com/wiki/Petrobras began experiments based
 on the ideas that Calvin put forth.
 [edithttps://mail.google.com/w/index.php?title=Euphorbia_tirucalliaction=editsection=1
 ] First aid

 The milky sap contained in this plant is corrosive and extremely toxic.
 Contact with skin causes severe burning; contact with the eyes may cause
 severe pain, and may cause temporary blindness for up to 7 days. For eye
 exposures, flush eyes with water for at least 15 minutes and seek medical
 attention. Over-the-counter antihistamines may provide relief for sensitive
 patients. Symptoms may worsen over 12 hours. If swallowed, may cause burning
 to mouth, lips, and tongue. Deaths have been recorded from swallowing the
 sap and, if swallowed, one should seek medical attention. If one still shows
 symptoms of rash after 10 days or more, it can be assumed that the rash will
 enduring the remainder of the infected person's life. Similar to the common
 STD herpes.

 Regards,

 Padmini Raghavan.



Re: [efloraofindia:64633] Euphorbiaceae Week: Jatropha gossypifolia from Delhi

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thankyou for the wonderful pictures Sir and the explanation of the uses. The
current accepted name of this plant as per Kew Plant List is *Jatropha
gossypiifolia L.*   ( Please note in all the earlier posts also the spelling
should be with double 's ' and double ' i ').

regards,
Rashida.


On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Jatropha gossypifolia* L.,  Sp. pl. 2:1006. 1753, nom. cons.
 syn: *Jatropha staphysagrifolia* Mill.
 * Adenoropium gossypifolium* (L.) Pohl
  *Manihot gossypifolia* (L.) Crantz

 In Ayurveda the oil from the seeds is used for treatment of eczema and
 skin itches, though the main use is as renewable source of energy as bio
 diesel.

 Common names: bellyache-bush, black physicnut, cotton-leaf physicnut

 Gujarati: Ratanjyot

 Kannada: Chikka kada haralu

 Bengali: Lal bherenda

 Tamil: Siria Amanakku

 Malayalm: Chuvanna Kadalavanakku




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Re: [efloraofindia:64634] Euphorbiaceae Week: Jatropha integerrima from Delhi

2011-03-09 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thank you Sir  for another wonderful set  from you , this time Jatrophas!.

regards,
Rashida.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Jatropha integerrima* Jacq., Enum. syst. pl. 32. 1760 (Select. stirp.
 amer. hist. 256, t. 183. 1763)
 syn: *Jatropha hastata* Jacq.
*Jatropha* *pandurifolia* Andrews

 A very commonly grown shrub or small tree, with attractive red flowers.

 Common names: peregrina, spicy jatropha

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




Re: [efloraofindia:64475] Re: Euphorbiaceae week - Cat's Tail (Acalypha chamaedrifolia)

2011-03-08 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks Mani ji  for the beautiuful pictures and thanks a lot to Kalidass ji
for the correct ID.

regards,
Rashida.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:55 PM, kalidass Chinnamadasamy 
kalidassin...@gmail.com wrote:

 it is Acalypha hispida.

 KALIDASS C

   On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.comwrote:

 Acalypha hispida.  Common name monkey's tail.

 On Mar 8, 11:00 am, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear friends,
 
  Sending photo of Cat's tail plant.
 
  Place :  Near Panjim Church, Goa.
  Date  :   September 2010
  Others :  Cultivated plant.
 
  Flowers looks like a cat's tail, hence the name.
 
  Regards,
 
  Mani.
 
   cats-tail.JPG
  149KViewDownload





Re: [efloraofindia:64476] Euphorbiaceae week- Phyllanthaceae-Breynia retusa-PKA3

2011-03-08 Thread Rashida Atthar
Yes Dr. Usha the yellow ones are the male flowers, axilliary on filiform
pedicles, the males in the lower and females greenish,  in the upper axils.
the globose redish fruit is seen with  the persistent calyx of  the female
flowers !

regards,
Rashida.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Usha Desai ushande...@gmail.com wrote:

 thank you Prashant ji
 Beautiful photographs.
 The last photograph[itp-PS1-jpg shows fruits,yellow male and green female
 flower.Am I right?
 Thank you again  for all the post of Euphorbiaceae
 Usha


 On 8 March 2011 11:22, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good set of information shared by you and Tanay. Thanks for the nice posts
 Prashant ji.

 regards,
 Rashida.

   On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote:


 Dear Friends,

 *Breynia retusa* from Sagargad near Alibag, Maharashtra.
 Date/Time: 11-07-2010 / 09:40AM
 Previously it was stated to be in Euphorbiaceae but presently Breynia
 belongs to the family Phyllanthaceae.

 Earlier, Tanay ji has shared few links which i am putting here for ref.
 According to GRIN --
 http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?423917
 Nomenclatural and Specimen Database of the Missouri Botanical Garden
 -- http://www.tropicos.org/Name/50057132
 Electronic Plant Information Centre of Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew--
 http://www.kew.org/science/tropamerica/neotropikey/families/Phyllanthaceae.htm
 Breynia belongs to the family *Phyllanthaceae*.

 regards
 Prashant






Re: [efloraofindia:64477] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia lathyris from Kashmir

2011-03-08 Thread Rashida Atthar
Wonderful post Sir, getting to see so many species of one genus together
with  description is really going to help  in identification of this
otherwise confusing genus !

regards,
Rashida.


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Euphorbia lathyris L., Sp. pl. 1:457. 1753 *E. lathyrus* (corr. Syst.
 nat. ed. 10, 2:1048. 1759  Sp. pl. ed. 2, 1:655. 1762)
 syn: *Euphorbia lathyrus* L., orth. var.

 Though the plant is highly posonous and an invasive weed, is often sold by
 nurseries to repel moles. Often grown in pots but may soon become self sown  
 It
 is used in folk medicine as a poison, antiseptic, and a purgative. It is
 used as a folk remedy for cancer, corns, and warts.

 Common names: caper spurge, gopherplant, moleplant




 --
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 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




Re: [efloraofindia:64495] Euphorbiaceae Week: Euphorbia lactea Haw.

2011-03-08 Thread Rashida Atthar
Very unique and interesting Euphorbia Sir, thank you for sharing the same.

regards,
Rashida.



On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Euphorbia lactea* Haw. Syn. Pl. Succ. 127 1812.
 syn: *Euphorbia lactea* Roxb

 This interesting shrub I photographed at Delhi University Flower Show,
 looking like E. antiquorum but with white stem. Small shrub or tree 3-4
 angled, the sides white, spines in pairs on the ridges.
 The plant is not known to flower, often confused with and sold as E.
 antiquorum

  Common names: Candelabra cactus, False cactus, Hatback, Dragon bones.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




Re: [efloraofindia:64535] Euphorbiaceae week :: Jatropha nana

2011-03-08 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thank you Satish ji for the wonderful set of  Jatrophas you have sent
together and this one in particular.

regards,
Rashida.


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Jatropha nana*
 A less common plant but seen here in Pune on Vetal hills.
 Dr Phadke



Re: [efloraofindia:64536] Re: Euphorbiaceae week :: Jatropha curcas

2011-03-08 Thread Rashida Atthar
Satish ji  to me all your pics look to be of  J. Curcas only.

Would like to add some info. about the uses- the parts used are Leaf,
Rootbark, Seed, Juice and Oil. Constituents : Seed; oi, lsugar, starch,
Albumin,Caseine, inorganic matter. Oil; Jatrophic acid,Curcin, Phytosterol.
Action/uses: Seed; acronarcotic. seed  oil; purgative, internally 
externally depurative  antiseptic. Leaf; lactagogue. Stem juice;
haemostatic  styptic. Rootbark;stomatic, astringent.
Used in dyspepsia,diarrhoea, to cure bleeding, spongy gum as poultice on
boils. (Ref- Nature Heals pg :24).

regards,
Rashida.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Swagat swagat1...@gmail.com wrote:


  Dear all,

 *'Jatropha curcas' *is called *'Mogali Erand' 'मोगली एरंड' or Ratanjyot'
 'रतनज्योत' *in Marathi.

 Regards,

 ~Swagat
 9422317979 / 9223217568

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 2011/3/8 Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com

 Plant pictures DSCN 9712 and DSCN9718 are from different place and at
 different time. I am not sure whether they are same species Pl opine.
 Dr Phadke

 On 8 March 2011 21:20, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Jatropha curcas*
 The Bio diesel plant with flowers. Pune
 Dr Phadke





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