Re: [IRCA] Update on antenna
Gievn how well your other EWE's work (aided by superb grounding) I think this is your best bet for TA's. 73 KAZ - Original Message - From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: [IRCA] Update on antenna Hi everyone, This afternoon I went to Home Depot and bought two pieces of PVC pipe along with two 5 foot copper pipes for the termination ground, and hopefully tomorrow or over the weekend, I will get up my 3rd EWE antenna up. I first thought of running it over to the tree at 15 degrees True North, but there is another that is a bit farther to the East, and that one would put me over to 25-35 degrees, plus the wire would longer. With a EWE, it really doesn't matter all that much as the lobe is broad, but that should be right in the middle of where I need to be. The edge of the house is 11 feet in height and I fiqure using two pieces of PVC, one inside each other, I can easily go up to 15-16 feet without any problems. There are enough branches on the tree to find the same height. Since the tree goes out to the North East a bit from our high winds (Few trees grow straight around here), especially the Shore Pines, so I will have a bit more length. I fiqure the total size will be 16X45X16 or there abouts. My NW EWE is 21X55X21, and the SW is 25X100X25. So the NE EWE will be a bit smaller, but still it should be close enough. The NW one works pretty good, although not as much signal as the SW one, but still fine. If a big wind comes up, I can easily drop the PVC pipe down below the surface of the roof, so that should work out. I don't know why I never thought of this before. Knowing EWEs, this should work well. I have always had good luck with any EWE I have made in 28 years. I will pass on the results. Now to get the matching transformer set up in a box and the pot for the termination. I have plenty of both. 73, Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Update on antenna
KAZ, Thanks! I think the NE EWE will work out well too. The only problem I see, is the NE downlead for the new EWE runs quite close to the Horizontal piece on the SW EWE. Like a couple or three feet apart, it looks like. I hope there is no interreaction with the two being so close? But the downleads on both the NW SW EWE's run close to each other too and I don't see any issues there. I only have the room I have, so I have to do with what I have. hi. 73, Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Update on antenna
At 08:04 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: KAZ, Thanks! I think the NE EWE will work out well too. The only problem I see, is the NE downlead for the new EWE runs quite close to the Horizontal piece on the SW EWE. Like a couple or three feet apart, it looks like. I hope there is no interreaction with the two being so close? But the downleads on both the NW SW EWE's run close to each other too and I don't see any issues there. I only have the room I have, so I have to do with what I have. hi. 73, Patrick My take home on all of this is that there's a lot of leeway in antenna design and construction, and that often large deviations from the official designs will work every bit as well as the original. I've often ran Beverages and BOGs with the odd zig or zag and dip, and they've performed flawlessly. Conti corner fed loops work great with virtually any variation of vertical or horizontal dimensions, and any type of matching transformers. The bottom line, experiment and choose the best for your situation. The EWE may indeed be the best solely based on your unique ground situation there, Patrick..Walt. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Update on antenna
Walt, Thanks too. I think this should solve my problem with the lack of a lobe to NE. At least I hope so. I have a few other ideas, if this EWE works. I may try to raise the NE end of it higher in the tree and see what that does to the pattern. I have had some luck with EWEs with the legs different lengths, as long as it is not too different. But first, I want to get it up and going. Hopefully I can get it in the next few days, weather work permitting. At least I have the materials now. 73, Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Update on antenna
Patrick, If the near metal piece is horizontal, you shouldn't have a problem. I run the bottom of my NW Flag through a metal garden fence and haven't noticed any change in its performance. 73, Chris -Original Message- From: irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com]on Behalf Of Patrick Martin Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:05 PM To: Neil Kazaross; Mailinglist for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] Update on antenna KAZ, Thanks! I think the NE EWE will work out well too. The only problem I see, is the NE downlead for the new EWE runs quite close to the Horizontal piece on the SW EWE. Like a couple or three feet apart, it looks like. I hope there is no interreaction with the two being so close? But the downleads on both the NW SW EWE's run close to each other too and I don't see any issues there. I only have the room I have, so I have to do with what I have. hi. 73, Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Update on antenna
Chris, I would expert no problem ether as it is only the horizontal wire and not anythjing larger, plus the SE element of the NW EWE is right near the SW element element of the SW EWE, within a couple of feet on each side of the tree trunk. Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Update on Antenna repairs
Pat: Sorry to say I don't know what an interconnector is Sounds like a barrel (it goes between two things) but obviously that's not right given what you wrote. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Martin Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:16 PM To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] Update on Antenna repairs Hi everyone, Well, my antenna repair turned out to be simple. I am glad. Digging up the coax in 37 degrees and damp would not have been fun. With the coax, I have replaced sections of it through the years and I have connections in a couple of places with barrels. Apparently with the cold temps, the interconnector pulled out of the connector about 6 feet from the end, so I untaped the connector and unscrewed it, and took a look and there it was. I cut off the old connector, crimped a new one on with a longer piece of wire sticking out and I screwed it back together, taped it up and everything is fine now. The antenna is working great. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Update on Antenna repairs
Chuck, Sorry I did not explain better. What I should have said, the center conductor pulled away from the barrel connecting the two pices of RG6 together. I don't think the center conductor was long enough anyway. But it is fixed now. Works great. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
