Re: javax packages

1999-02-12 Thread Nathan Meyers

Raju Karia wrote:
> 
> Does Sun's committment to support the porting of Java to Linux include
> packages outside the JDK 1.2 Core API ? Obviously, pure Java packages
> will run on the JDK 1.2 port (some already run on JDK 1.1).
> I'm interested in seeing ports to Linux of packages that depend on some
> native code (albeit a very small part). The following are examples of
> the
> kind of packages I'm referring to :

If you check out Kevin Hendricks' message about Sun's support
(http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg04084.html),
you'll see an impressive commitment, but that commitment doesn't include
doing the porting themselves. I'm not part of the porting team, but I
expect that the Blackdown team will do the work as time permits.

Judging from the volume of "when will 1.2 be ready?" messages, it's
clear that interest in the Blackdown work is reaching some sort of
critical mass. Perhaps when the dust settles from the 1.2 port, it might
be possible to arrange more formal and detailed visibility into what
work is being done, what's under consideration, what's of interest, and
progress. The pages at Mozilla.org, detailing progress on their various
projects, are a good (if a bit chaotic) example.

Nathan Meyers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Remote javac/javah compiler?

1999-02-12 Thread Rob Schoening

Hi-

  Over on the BeOS porting project we're trying to devise a way to build the
JDK without a java runtime to run javac or javah.

  While we can use jikes to replace javac, javah is a bit more difficult. 
My current idea is replace the javah classloader so that it can load the
classes over the network.  Thus we could write a javah shell that sends the
job to the remote machine for execution and returns the necessary output.

  It might even be possible to do something similar for javac.

  Is anyone aware of any previous efforts to do something similar?


Thanks,

Rob

P.S.  I'd use rsh and NFS except that the NFS support for BeOS is lacking.



?

1999-02-12 Thread Topi Maenpaa

I have been desperately waiting for the JDK 1.2 release and checked your
web page daily. In december it was said that you are ready to release in
less than month... Today I could not see any information considering JDK
1.2... What has happened to it?

Regards,
Topi Mäenpää
 << http://ee.oulu.fi/~topiolli >>




jre

1999-02-12 Thread alexander lang

If anyone is listening...

I am having trouble getting my application to run with the jre.  When I 
try the jre under the bin directory nothing happens.  

Here is a portion of my script:
jre=../usr/local/
PATH=$jre/bin/:PATH
.
.
.
export CLASSPATH=.:$jre/lib/i18n.jar:$jre/lib/rt.jar

(LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. jre Sugar "$@# 2>&1) | ./unbrag -

When I try using the jre under the "green_threads" directory, I get a 
"can't find libjava.so" message.  

Does anyone know the significance of this message or what libjava.so is?


Thank you very much.

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Re: Keyboard mnemonic problem

1999-02-12 Thread peter . pilgrim

Whenever I start Motif applications on my linux box the [RETURN] does not 
work, but strangely enough Control-J work. I basically have given up.

Does XBD (X keyboard extension) cure this problem ?
How can I see XBD ?

Peter


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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Jackie Manning wrote:
> On my system, RH 5.1 updated to 2.0.36, jdk1.1.7-v1a, keyboard mnemonics 
> do not function.  The same
> programs function properly on my laptop, RH 5.1 - 2.0.35, jdk1.1.7-v1a. 
> 
> Can anyone give me a clue where to look for the problem?
I've got a friend who's got the same problem. I haven't looked at his 
system carefully, but from preliminary tests, it appeared as though his 
XBD was not setup properly.

--Chris



Improving Java/Linux support

1999-02-12 Thread Nelson Minar

>Judging from the volume of "when will 1.2 be ready?" messages, it's
>clear that interest in the Blackdown work is reaching some sort of
>critical mass.

With 1.1.7, Linux is either the best or second best Unix platform for
running Java. Solaris is obviously alright, but most of the other Java
ports (SGI, Digital Unix, etc) have really bad problems. The Blackdown
team has produced quality. Combine that with the general interest in
Linux and you can see why Java on Linux is so desired. Heck, we even
had one of Sun's big distributed Java gurus asking us when 1.2 would
be ported for Linux :-)

>Perhaps when the dust settles from the 1.2 port, it might be possible
>to arrange more formal and detailed visibility into what work is
>being done, what's under consideration, what's of interest, and progress.

I'd like to see more information about the porting process myself, but
that's asking the porting team to do even *more* work. The old rules
for Java made doing a Linux-style port awkward; things had to be
discussed in secret, code couldn't be released, etc. What's the impact
of the new community source licensing? Maybe we can open up the
porting process some? I haven't reviewed the licenses well enough.

A second thing to watch is the growth of Japhar and Classpath. My
impression is that this code is quality, that we might soon see a
truly viable open source Java. Of course, I said that about Kaffe too,
but that's never quite come to fruition.

Another interesting option is to see if we can get financial support
for the Linux porters. I was sort of hoping Sun would do this, by
donating some engineers' time, but maybe that's not come together.
Maybe some of the companies relying on Java/Linux could be convinced
to chip in some money? That would again put more responsibility on the
part of the porters, but in this case with a reward for doing it.

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will there be a jdk 2.x??

1999-02-12 Thread Chris Tomlinson

There used to be a note that jdk1.2/2.0 was 'in progress' now that is no
longer there. What is the status for jdk 2.0 for linux??

Thanks and ciao,
Christine Tomlinson




Re: Improving Java/Linux support

1999-02-12 Thread Tony Pujals

I have to admit feeling excited but anxious about the 1.2 port. I'm forced to
do my development under Windows right now because 1.2 isn't yet available for
Linux.

The lack of visibility on the porting process makes it easy to forget that
the people doing the port are working very hard and not getting paid. But
I suppose it would be nice to see the status updated periodically (realizing,
of course, that this entails additional work). The lack of information is
amazingly demoralizing.

Also, if the Intel version is already ready (as the status message on the web
site seems to imply--or rather, seemed to; I can't find it now), it would be
nice to check it out, even if it's just alpha or beta at this point.

In any case, you guys will be heroes when you release it. I'm really looking
forward to it. Keep up the good work!

Tony


Nelson Minar wrote:

> >Judging from the volume of "when will 1.2 be ready?" messages, it's
> >clear that interest in the Blackdown work is reaching some sort of
> >critical mass.
>
> With 1.1.7, Linux is either the best or second best Unix platform for
> running Java. Solaris is obviously alright, but most of the other Java
> ports (SGI, Digital Unix, etc) have really bad problems. The Blackdown
> team has produced quality. Combine that with the general interest in
> Linux and you can see why Java on Linux is so desired. Heck, we even
> had one of Sun's big distributed Java gurus asking us when 1.2 would
> be ported for Linux :-)
>
> >Perhaps when the dust settles from the 1.2 port, it might be possible
> >to arrange more formal and detailed visibility into what work is
> >being done, what's under consideration, what's of interest, and progress.
>
> I'd like to see more information about the porting process myself, but
> that's asking the porting team to do even *more* work. The old rules
> for Java made doing a Linux-style port awkward; things had to be
> discussed in secret, code couldn't be released, etc. What's the impact
> of the new community source licensing? Maybe we can open up the
> porting process some? I haven't reviewed the licenses well enough.
>
> A second thing to watch is the growth of Japhar and Classpath. My
> impression is that this code is quality, that we might soon see a
> truly viable open source Java. Of course, I said that about Kaffe too,
> but that's never quite come to fruition.
>
> Another interesting option is to see if we can get financial support
> for the Linux porters. I was sort of hoping Sun would do this, by
> donating some engineers' time, but maybe that's not come together.
> Maybe some of the companies relying on Java/Linux could be convinced
> to chip in some money? That would again put more responsibility on the
> part of the porters, but in this case with a reward for doing it.
>
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Re: Improving Java/Linux support

1999-02-12 Thread Matthew Hunter

On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 10:49:30AM -0500, Nelson Minar wrote:
> >Perhaps when the dust settles from the 1.2 port, it might be possible
> >to arrange more formal and detailed visibility into what work is
> >being done, what's under consideration, what's of interest, and progress.
> I'd like to see more information about the porting process myself, but
> that's asking the porting team to do even *more* work. The old rules
> for Java made doing a Linux-style port awkward; things had to be
> discussed in secret, code couldn't be released, etc. What's the impact
> of the new community source licensing? Maybe we can open up the
> porting process some? I haven't reviewed the licenses well enough.

I've been paying attention to this as well, and (unfortunately) I
haven't been able to find anything more specific than press releases
about semi-open-source JDK development on Sun's site.  I'd like to help
with the port to 1.2, but it seems pointless to acquire a 1.1 source
license in order to do so.

-- 
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Re: Improving Java/Linux support

1999-02-12 Thread Kelly Campbell

On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 12:14:43PM -0500, Matthew Hunter wrote:
> 
> I've been paying attention to this as well, and (unfortunately) I
> haven't been able to find anything more specific than press releases
> about semi-open-source JDK development on Sun's site.  I'd like to help
> with the port to 1.2, but it seems pointless to acquire a 1.1 source
> license in order to do so.

I executed the 1.1 source license with Sun a few weeks ago, and they sent
the 1.2 source, so it's worth getting a non-commercial license if you want
to see the source. However, the guys doing the port seem to have it well
in hand from what I've heard, and the learning curve is a bit steep.

Kelly
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Re: Keyboard mnemonic problem

1999-02-12 Thread Christopher Smith

On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Whenever I start Motif applications on my linux box the [RETURN] does not 
> work, but strangely enough Control-J work. I basically have given up.
> 
> Does XBD (X keyboard extension) cure this problem ?
> How can I see XBD ?
This sounds like it might be related to your Xwindows setup (and therefore
XBD), although I'm a little suspect about why it only happens with Motif
apps.

Keep in mind, that you don't have to use XBD. However, it's the "new and
improved" way of doing things, so most distributions default to setting it
up.

--Chris



Re: Improving Java/Linux support

1999-02-12 Thread Nathan Meyers

> On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 10:49:30AM -0500, Nelson Minar wrote:
> > >Perhaps when the dust settles from the 1.2 port, it might be possible
> > >to arrange more formal and detailed visibility into what work is
> > >being done, what's under consideration, what's of interest, and progress.
> > I'd like to see more information about the porting process myself, but
> > that's asking the porting team to do even *more* work. The old rules
> > for Java made doing a Linux-style port awkward; things had to be
> > discussed in secret, code couldn't be released, etc. What's the impact
> > of the new community source licensing? Maybe we can open up the
> > porting process some? I haven't reviewed the licenses well enough.
> 
> I've been paying attention to this as well, and (unfortunately) I
> haven't been able to find anything more specific than press releases
> about semi-open-source JDK development on Sun's site.  I'd like to help
> with the port to 1.2, but it seems pointless to acquire a 1.1 source
> license in order to do so.

Am I the only person on this list who *doesn't* want to help finish the port?
:-) I recall an old truism about too many cooks -- as well as some theorems from
parallel processing about the difficulties of over-partitioning certain
problems.

The paucity of information on Sun's site is surprising. The help they're
providing for an OS that they don't control is remarkable; it's a bit out of
character for them *not* to turn this into a publicity juggernaut. And I doubt
they're being low-key in order to avoid offending Microsoft. :-)

Nathan Meyers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: will there be a jdk 2.x??

1999-02-12 Thread Matt Welsh


I think it would be a terrific idea for the Blackdown web page to have
a note explaining the progress of JDK 1.2 (as in "don't ask"). If I get 
one more message on this list about JDK 1.2 I'm going to explode!

mdw

Chris Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There used to be a note that jdk1.2/2.0 was 'in progress' now that is no
> longer there. What is the status for jdk 2.0 for linux??
> 
> Thanks and ciao,
> Christine Tomlinson
> 
> 



Re: Improving Java/Linux support

1999-02-12 Thread Tony Pujals

At 06:09 PM 2/12/99 +, you wrote:
>Am I the only person on this list who *doesn't* want to help finish the port?
>:-)

Nope, me neither! There aren't enough hours in the day or enough days in
the week. . . .

My hat's off to the guys who are doing it, though -- they deserve a lot of
credit!

Tony

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Re: Improving Java/Linux support

1999-02-12 Thread Dimitris Vyzovitis

Nelson Minar wrote:

>
>
> With 1.1.7, Linux is either the best or second best Unix platform for
> running Java. Solaris is obviously alright, but most of the other Java
> ports (SGI, Digital Unix, etc) have really bad problems.

Yes, the SGI port is really broken (especially the jit)


> Another interesting option is to see if we can get financial support
> for the Linux porters. I was sort of hoping Sun would do this, by
> donating some engineers' time, but maybe that's not come together.
> Maybe some of the companies relying on Java/Linux could be convinced
> to chip in some money? That would again put more responsibility on the
> part of the porters, but in this case with a reward for doing it.
>

You might find this of interest as an idea (I suspect you have already seen
it, though)

http://slashdot.org/features/99/02/09/0954219.shtml


Dimitris



Re: will there be a jdk 2.x??

1999-02-12 Thread Jason Dillon

I think it is just a myth that they are working on 1.2... soon it will turn
into legend.  ;P

--jason

On 12-Feb-99 Matt Welsh wrote:
> 
> I think it would be a terrific idea for the Blackdown web page to have
> a note explaining the progress of JDK 1.2 (as in "don't ask"). If I get 
> one more message on this list about JDK 1.2 I'm going to explode!
> 
> mdw
> 
> Chris Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> There used to be a note that jdk1.2/2.0 was 'in progress' now that is no
>> longer there. What is the status for jdk 2.0 for linux??
>> 
>> Thanks and ciao,
>> Christine Tomlinson
>> 
>> 



Re: Porting JDK1.1.7 to Linux

1999-02-12 Thread Jim Watson

It is caused by a empty line at the end of the source for appletviewer! this
causes a "\" to appear in the diff file. my versions of patch\diff get upset
by this. in which case it has to be removed from the diff file by hand in
order to get things working.



>
>>>I can not tell why this would happen.  I have just tried to reproduce
>this problem with my 1.1.7 source archive and the diffs we made and the
>diffs patched just fine.  (Not one warning or error)
>>Could it be that you have an older version of patch?
>
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>
>

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