Slow list

2002-04-04 Thread Jacob Vennervald Madsen

Hi List

Has anybody got an idea about why this list is so slow?
When people send a message it takes an average of 45 min. from a mail is
sent to the list till it is received by the people on the list making it
hard to ask quick questions.

To Drew Lane: Sorry for sending this mail to you first. My mistake.

Jacob


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Java in Mandrake 8.1

2002-04-04 Thread Walter Logeman

Hi,

I am new to Linux, and to this mailing list.

I am in the process of setting up open-office but setup cant find 
the java environment... I read the notes it gave me 
and also seached for java...  I think it iws on my machine 
somewhere - Is it?  

$ locate Java | grep StarOffice
/home/apps/StarOffice6.0/share/config/registry/instance/org/openoffice/Office/Java.xml
/home/apps/StarOffice6.0/share/config/registry/template/org/openoffice/Office/Java.xml
/home/apps/StarOffice6.0/share/config/registry/cache/instance/org/openoffice/Office/Java.dat
/home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java
/home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/boutique.url
/home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jars.url
/home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/javasoft.url
/home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jconsole.url
/home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jsystem.url
/home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jsetup.url

I tried to tell setup to go to:
/home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java

but that did not work... I'm lost - help appreciated.


Walter

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Dell i8100 laptop
ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility
Mandrake 8.1
Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF]
Upgraded to Xfree86 4.2.0

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Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1

2002-04-04 Thread Ingo Rockel

Hi,

If you have the download edition of mandrake 8.1 there is no java
installed only kaffe which is as far as I know not suitable to use it
with StarOffice. For a proper support you should download and install
Java2 SDK (either get it from www.blackdown.org or from java.sun.com)

Greets,

Ingo

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Walter Logeman wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am new to Linux, and to this mailing list.
>
> I am in the process of setting up open-office but setup cant find
> the java environment... I read the notes it gave me
> and also seached for java...  I think it iws on my machine
> somewhere - Is it?
>
> $ locate Java | grep StarOffice
> 
>/home/apps/StarOffice6.0/share/config/registry/instance/org/openoffice/Office/Java.xml
> 
>/home/apps/StarOffice6.0/share/config/registry/template/org/openoffice/Office/Java.xml
> 
>/home/apps/StarOffice6.0/share/config/registry/cache/instance/org/openoffice/Office/Java.dat
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/boutique.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jars.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/javasoft.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jconsole.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jsystem.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jsetup.url
>
> I tried to tell setup to go to:
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java
>
> but that did not work... I'm lost - help appreciated.
>
>
> Walter
>
> = My Machine =
> Dell i8100 laptop
> ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility
> Mandrake 8.1
> Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF]
> Upgraded to Xfree86 4.2.0
>
>

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Re: Slow list

2002-04-04 Thread Pierre Neihouser

Hello,

I have no idea, but it's not a problem to me (I take more than 45 minutes to
reply anyway ;-).
The server might be overloaded (seems unlikely though...). Anybody has
another idea?

-- Pierre

- Original Message -
From: "Jacob Vennervald Madsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:33 AM
Subject: Slow list


Hi List

Has anybody got an idea about why this list is so slow?
When people send a message it takes an average of 45 min. from a mail is
sent to the list till it is received by the people on the list making it
hard to ask quick questions.

To Drew Lane: Sorry for sending this mail to you first. My mistake.

Jacob


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Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1

2002-04-04 Thread Pierre Neihouser

I believe you should look for java all lowercase. Locate is case sensitive
(afai remember).
I don't have my Linux box with me (and I don't have Open Office installed on
it anyway), but that would be where I would start...

Hope it helps,

-- Pierre



- Original Message -
From: "Walter Logeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:39 PM
Subject: Java in Mandrake 8.1


> Hi,
>
> I am new to Linux, and to this mailing list.
>
> I am in the process of setting up open-office but setup cant find
> the java environment... I read the notes it gave me
> and also seached for java...  I think it iws on my machine
> somewhere - Is it?
>
> $ locate Java | grep StarOffice
>
/home/apps/StarOffice6.0/share/config/registry/instance/org/openoffice/Offic
e/Java.xml
>
/home/apps/StarOffice6.0/share/config/registry/template/org/openoffice/Offic
e/Java.xml
>
/home/apps/StarOffice6.0/share/config/registry/cache/instance/org/openoffice
/Office/Java.dat
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/boutique.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jars.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/javasoft.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jconsole.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jsystem.url
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java/jsetup.url
>
> I tried to tell setup to go to:
> /home/apps/StarOffice5.2/share/bookmark/english/Java
>
> but that did not work... I'm lost - help appreciated.
>
>
> Walter
>
> = My Machine =
> Dell i8100 laptop
> ATI Radeon 7500 Mobility
> Mandrake 8.1
> Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686 [ELF]
> Upgraded to Xfree86 4.2.0
>
> --
> Walter Logeman
> Psychotherapist
> http://www.psybernet.co.nz
>
>
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Re: Slow list

2002-04-04 Thread Drew Lane

Yes, it is very slow.

Perhaps this is a moderated list?
(although I don't see why it would be)

Drew


>
>Hi List
>
>Has anybody got an idea about why this list is so slow?
>When people send a message it takes an average of 45 min. from a mail is
>sent to the list till it is received by the people on the list making it
>hard to ask quick questions.
>
>To Drew Lane: Sorry for sending this mail to you first. My mistake.
>
>Jacob
>


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Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1

2002-04-04 Thread Elias Assmann

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Pierre Neihouser wrote:
> I believe you should look for java all lowercase. Locate is case sensitive
> (afai remember).
Yes it is, and yes he probably should. But why not try `locate -i`,
and if that doesn't work you could also try running updatedb (this
updates the database locate uses, just in case it's too old and
doesn't have the java stuff in it yet - but that seems unlikely if
java was installed out of the box together with the rest of the system
:), and then locate again, or you could just use find: `find / -iname
java` should do (but will be an awful lot slower than locate).

I think java is usually installed in /usr/lib/jdk, and there
is probably a symbolic link to /usr/lib/java - at least that's how it
was set up on my box (but all that might be different with Kaffe...).

HTH, however confused it is,

Elias

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Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1

2002-04-04 Thread Pierre Neihouser

I can't agree more with you. Distros don't usually install the JDK or JRE,
that's a licensing problem I suppose but Sun should do something about this.
I mean even Mac OS comes up with the JDK installed !!

Now, I thought that java was installed with Open Office !! I remember
installing Star Office 5.2 a long time ago and some sort of java (1.1 or 1.2
don't remember) was installed. Is it different with Open Office?

-- Pierre

- Original Message -
From: "Elias Assmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pierre Neihouser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1


> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Pierre Neihouser wrote:
> > I believe you should look for java all lowercase. Locate is case
sensitive
> > (afai remember).

> Yes it is, and yes he probably should. But why not try `locate -i`,
> and if that doesn't work you could also try running updatedb (this
> updates the database locate uses, just in case it's too old and
> doesn't have the java stuff in it yet - but that seems unlikely if
> java was installed out of the box together with the rest of the system
> :), and then locate again, or you could just use find: `find / -iname
> java` should do (but will be an awful lot slower than locate).



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Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1

2002-04-04 Thread Elias Assmann

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Pierre Neihouser wrote:
> I can't agree more with you. Distros don't usually install the JDK or JRE,
> that's a licensing problem I suppose but Sun should do something about this.
> I mean even Mac OS comes up with the JDK installed !!

Wait a second, I own a copy of SuSE 7.1 (yeah, I know...), and there
is definitely a Java SDK (1.2-something I think) somewhere on one of
those disks. I can't say if it's included in the standard installation
(or any of the predefined setups) but it's definitely there and you
can install it when you set up the system.

In fact, that package has caused me quite a bit of grief a while back,
when I had installed JDK 1.3 manually and some script kept "updating"
the symbolic links /usr/lib/java and /usr/bin/java* to point to the
old installation, the JDK 1.2, while I wanted to use the new flashy
one...

Elias.

PS: On second thoughts, I can't actually tell you for sure that that
was the Sun SDK... But I do think so.

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RE: Java in Mandrake 8.1

2002-04-04 Thread Duane Kehoe

I beg to differ,
SuSE's 7.3 distro comes with at least 3 jdks.  Sun1.3.0, Sun1.1.8, and
IBM1.3.0  Anyone can be installed during the initial install routine

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-Original Message-
From: Pierre Neihouser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1


I can't agree more with you. Distros don't usually install the JDK or JRE,
that's a licensing problem I suppose but Sun should do something about this.
I mean even Mac OS comes up with the JDK installed !!

Now, I thought that java was installed with Open Office !! I remember
installing Star Office 5.2 a long time ago and some sort of java (1.1 or 1.2
don't remember) was installed. Is it different with Open Office?

-- Pierre

- Original Message -
From: "Elias Assmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pierre Neihouser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1


> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Pierre Neihouser wrote:
> > I believe you should look for java all lowercase. Locate is case
sensitive
> > (afai remember).

> Yes it is, and yes he probably should. But why not try `locate -i`,
> and if that doesn't work you could also try running updatedb (this
> updates the database locate uses, just in case it's too old and
> doesn't have the java stuff in it yet - but that seems unlikely if
> java was installed out of the box together with the rest of the system
> :), and then locate again, or you could just use find: `find / -iname
> java` should do (but will be an awful lot slower than locate).



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Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1

2002-04-04 Thread Pierre Neihouser

Ooops, I think I said something wrong...
Looks like my Red Hat 7.1 system is getting old and I have some catch up to
do.

Sorry guys I didn't mean it badly, I take it back. ;-)

-- Pierre


- Original Message -
From: "Duane Kehoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: Java in Mandrake 8.1


> I beg to differ,
> SuSE's 7.3 distro comes with at least 3 jdks.  Sun1.3.0, Sun1.1.8, and
> IBM1.3.0  Anyone can be installed during the initial install routine




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Java plugins for Mozilla in Linux

2002-04-04 Thread Walter Logeman

Hi,

I have Mozilla working in Linux.  It seems to work on some things 
that demand a plugin but on others it asks me to download and 
install a plugin.  However the result is the unsuccessful  each 
time (see clip from browser below.).  I am not surprised as it 
seems to be a Windows plugin.

I presume the Java i have working is Java script - but the other is 
missing?

I will look for a Linux plugin.

Some broad guidelines would be good at this sage.  I have looked up 
heaps on the web but I am caught simply not getting the basics.

Is this plugin related to the Java i need for OpenOffice that I am 
about to try and find as suggested by 

Mark Christiaens, 
who wrote: 

> Your Java should be in /usr/Java or /opt/IBMJava2-13/.  If you
> don't have a Java runtime installed you can download one from Sun
> (Java.sun.com) or IBM.

Walter


Install Results
Java 2 Plug-in for Linux: Download was unsuccessful. Please try 
again. The Java Plug-in is 7.6Mb and will take you 37 minutes to 
fully download with a 28.8 modem or 19 minutes with a 56K modem. 
Alternatively, you can download this plug-in directly from our FTP 
site at 
ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.2.2/windows/win32/plugins/jre131_02i.xpi
 
for Windows. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you continue 
to have problems. Error encountered -- -202
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Re: Java plugins for Mozilla in Linux

2002-04-04 Thread Calvin Austin

I recently used JRE 1.4 with netscape 6.2.2 and that worked you can do the
same for mozilla too.

Download JRE 1.4 if you can (1.3.1 does work too but I've seen a couple
of annoying glitches with the default plugin they have)

Then do the following, if libjavaplugin_oji does not exist don't worry.

(cd /usr/local/mozilla/plugins; rm libjavaplugin_oji.so; ln -s
/usr/java/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji140.so
libjavaplugin_oji.so)

regards
calvin

Walter Logeman wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have Mozilla working in Linux.  It seems to work on some things
> that demand a plugin but on others it asks me to download and
> install a plugin.  However the result is the unsuccessful  each
> time (see clip from browser below.).  I am not surprised as it
> seems to be a Windows plugin.
> 
> I presume the Java i have working is Java script - but the other is
> missing?
> 
> I will look for a Linux plugin.
> 
> Some broad guidelines would be good at this sage.  I have looked up
> heaps on the web but I am caught simply not getting the basics.
> 
> Is this plugin related to the Java i need for OpenOffice that I am
> about to try and find as suggested by
> 
> Mark Christiaens,
> who wrote:
> 
> > Your Java should be in /usr/Java or /opt/IBMJava2-13/.  If you
> > don't have a Java runtime installed you can download one from Sun
> > (Java.sun.com) or IBM.
> 
> Walter
> 
> Install Results
> Java 2 Plug-in for Linux: Download was unsuccessful. Please try
> again. The Java Plug-in is 7.6Mb and will take you 37 minutes to
> fully download with a 28.8 modem or 19 minutes with a 56K modem.
> Alternatively, you can download this plug-in directly from our FTP
> site at
> 
>ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.2.2/windows/win32/plugins/jre131_02i.xpi
> for Windows. Please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you continue
> to have problems. Error encountered -- -202
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> http://www.psybernet.co.nz
> 
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Re: Java plugins for Mozilla in Linux

2002-04-04 Thread Walter Logeman

Mark Christiaens, 
 On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 18:50, in Re: Java plugins for Mozilla in 
Linux, you wrote: 

Thanks for the promt help from the list!

> If you have the Sun JDK 1.4.0 installed, the plugin is in:
>
> /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji140.s
>o
>
> Just put a link to this plugin in the mozilla plugins directory.

That is very helpful.  I now grasp that there are two things to do:

1.  Instal  Sun JDK 1.4.0 

2.  Install the Plugin.

I am making good headway with #1.  I have a file called:

j2sdk-1_4_0-linux-i386-rpm.bin

Which sounds good as I like to keep the rpm database upto date.  
However I don't grasp a  few things and i can't seem to find the 
help I need easily - not sure where to look.  Got as far as:  
http://java.sun.com/linux/  but there is a lot of info there, most 
of it not what i need.  I need more newbie type help.

Here are my questions

1. What is .bin in the file i have ... do I just run it?
2. Where shld i put the Java installation.  Somnone suggested in 
the Home dir for me as user?  That would make it easier to 
reinstall the whole distribution?  (I am looking to doing Mandrake 
8.1 to 8.2.)
3. Should I be su when setting this up?
4.  How will I know I have JDK working?  I will know when the 
plugin works in Mozilla but what about before that?
I am setting up OpenOffice and it can't find java - so i presume 
that the oo setup will work?


Thanks again!


Walter




> On my system that is in
>
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
>
> With this combination, applets are amazingly fast on my system. 
> They come up in one or two seconds.
>
> In noticed from your mail that you seem to be downloading the
> Windows plugin from Netscape.  That will of course not work.
>
> Kind regards,
>
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> #
> # Truth is stranger than fiction
>
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Walter Logeman wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have Mozilla working in Linux.  It seems to work on some
> > things that demand a plugin but on others it asks me to
> > download and install a plugin.  However the result is the
> > unsuccessful  each time (see clip from browser below.).  I am
> > not surprised as it seems to be a Windows plugin.
> >
> > I presume the Java i have working is Java script - but the
> > other is missing?
> >
> > I will look for a Linux plugin.
> >
> > Some broad guidelines would be good at this sage.  I have
> > looked up heaps on the web but I am caught simply not getting
> > the basics.
> >
> > Is this plugin related to the Java i need for OpenOffice that I
> > am about to try and find as suggested by
> >
> > Mark Christiaens,
> >
> > who wrote:
> > > Your Java should be in /usr/Java or /opt/IBMJava2-13/.  If
> > > you don't have a Java runtime installed you can download one
> > > from Sun (Java.sun.com) or IBM.
> >
> > Walter
> >
> >
> > Install Results
> > Java 2 Plug-in for Linux: Download was unsuccessful. Please try
> > again. The Java Plug-in is 7.6Mb and will take you 37 minutes
> > to fully download with a 28.8 modem or 19 minutes with a 56K
> > modem. Alternatively, you can download this plug-in directly
> > from our FTP site at
> > ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.2.2/windows/win3
> >2/plugins/jre131_02i.xpi for Windows. Please e-mail
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you continue to have problems.
> > Error encountered -- -202
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Re: Java in Mandrake 8.1

2002-04-04 Thread Martin Schroeder

On 2002-04-04 15:21:56 -0500, Pierre Neihouser wrote:
> Looks like my Red Hat 7.1 system is getting old and I have some catch up to
> do.

RH doesn't package any Java, just gcj.

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