[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

2014-10-01 Thread Moderator
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[JAWS-Users] Silencing blank In EXCEL

2014-10-01 Thread Charles Nicol
Hi,

I followed Mike's recommendations to silence JAWS saying Blank. However, 
in MS EXCEL, 2010, when I move to a blank cell, JAWS still calls out 
Blank. Is there any way to silence this?

Many Thanks, With Kind Regards,
 
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From:   Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date:   01/10/2014 02:21
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Silencing blank
Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com



Hi Graham,

These steps are for Jaws versions prior to Jaws 16 but, give them a try. I 

don't have J16 installed so

If you want nothing said instead of blank in all applications try the
following:

1. Open the Settings Center, press, control, shift, + D, to open Settings
Center default all applications.
2. Arrow down to, punctuation closed..., right arrow to open, down arrow 
to,
customize punctuation,  press the spacebar to open.  Make sure you
press the spacebar to open  not enter. Pressing enter will close the
Settings Center.
3. Tab to the Advanced button  press spacebar to open.  The first item in
the list will be, blank, so tab 1 time to, edit description button, 
press the spacebar to open.  The word, blank, will be in this edit field.
Delete the word, blank, put a space with the spacebar,  press enter.
4. Tab to okay, press the spacebar, tab to okay, press the spacebar, tab 
to
apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, press the spacebar to save your
changes  close the Settings Center.

If you don't want this in all applications, open the desired applications
individually  use the above steps in each application.  HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Graham Smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:40 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Silencing blank



I am having difficulty silencing the word blank in jaws beta 16.  Please 
can
someone remind me how to do this.  I am sure I am doing it right but 
cannot
achieve it.  I have an option to apply changes in jaws 15 but no apply
option in jaws 16.   I am looking at all this under advanced options in
customise punctuation.

regards

graham


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[JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express

2014-10-01 Thread Fanus
Hello list
I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this 
morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the download but 
got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there may be an 
error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I try to do an 
email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type in the body field 
I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message jaws keeps saying 
blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read the test message, so it 
is only in the body where I can not read what I have typed. Does anyone have a 
solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the problem does not exist, in fact I am 
writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read line by line etc.
Regards
Fanus


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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

2014-10-01 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Fanus and all members,
I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware,
Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7
are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws
This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft 
in Windows 7 or higher.
So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on 
the beta report form.
If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

2014-10-01 Thread Fanus

Hello Rick
Well, before the upgrade of the patch failed, everything was ok. I decided 
to uninstall the jfw16.exe file and to reinstall it again and the problem is 
solved, so it has to do that the upgrade patch failed to install.

Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:38 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta



Hi Fanus and all members,
I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware,
Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7
are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws
This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft
in Windows 7 or higher.
So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go 
on

the beta report form.
If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express

2014-10-01 Thread Fanus

Hi Rick
So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has 
something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the 
process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use 
avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and 
reinstall?

Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express



Hi Fanus,
I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning.
The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new message.
All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it.


HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


Hello list
I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this
morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the 
download

but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there
may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I
try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type
in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message
jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read
the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I 
have
typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the 
problem

does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read
line by line etc.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

2014-10-01 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Robin,
Windows Mail in Windows 7 is a registry edit, and Outlook Express, was not 
engineered by Microsoft to workin Windows 7
and therefore may have unexpected side-effects , which FS would not have 
anticipated in the  development stage of Jaws.
This is a question best answered by a representative from FS,
I only mentioned it because the 2 clients mentioned, while are Microsoft 
products,
are not being used in the versions of Windows that Microsoft intended.
It's kind of like using a screwdriver for a pry bar
if that is what you use it for, don't expect the manufacturer to replace it 
when it breaks.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta


They are still important applications that need to work with JAWS. I would 
think that FS wuld appreciate all bugs on popular applications and they 
can decide if they want to make corrections or not. If we do not inform them 
then some folks using JAWS and these applications will switch to NVDA or 
other screen reader softwares. I do not think FS wants to lose any more 
folks then theyall ready have.
Mind you it would be good to have Eric comment on this.

Later...

robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: October 1, 2014 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

Hi Fanus and all members,
I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware,
Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7
are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws
This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft
in Windows 7 or higher.
So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on
the beta report form.
If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express

2014-10-01 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Fanus,
I do not use Avast, so I can't really comment on that part of your question,
only to say that if you disable it to install Jaws, make sure that you 
disable your Internet connection first, and re-enable it before
re-connecting to the Internet after installation.
I would think that you would get a security window from Avast to allow the 
installation, if that is what's blocking it.
Have you tried re-booting the computer?

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


Hi Rick
So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has
something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the
process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use
avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and
reinstall?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


 Hi Fanus,
 I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning.
 The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new message.
 All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it.


 HTH,
 Rick Justice

 Tomorrow's another day, another way!
 and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

 - Original Message - 
 From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


 Hello list
 I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this
 morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the
 download
 but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there
 may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I
 try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type
 in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message
 jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read
 the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I
 have
 typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the
 problem
 does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read
 line by line etc.
 Regards
 Fanus


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

2014-10-01 Thread East, Robin
Agreed. FS needs to decide specifically what reports they need.
Thank you
Later...
Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Justice
Sent: October 1, 2014 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

Hi Robin,
Windows Mail in Windows 7 is a registry edit, and Outlook Express, was not 
engineered by Microsoft to workin Windows 7
and therefore may have unexpected side-effects , which FS would not have 
anticipated in the  development stage of Jaws.
This is a question best answered by a representative from FS,
I only mentioned it because the 2 clients mentioned, while are Microsoft 
products,
are not being used in the versions of Windows that Microsoft intended.
It's kind of like using a screwdriver for a pry bar
if that is what you use it for, don't expect the manufacturer to replace it 
when it breaks.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta


They are still important applications that need to work with JAWS. I would 
think that FS wuld appreciate all bugs on popular applications and they 
can decide if they want to make corrections or not. If we do not inform them 
then some folks using JAWS and these applications will switch to NVDA or 
other screen reader softwares. I do not think FS wants to lose any more 
folks then theyall ready have.
Mind you it would be good to have Eric comment on this.

Later...

robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: October 1, 2014 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

Hi Fanus and all members,
I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware,
Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7
are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws
This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft
in Windows 7 or higher.
So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on
the beta report form.
If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express

2014-10-01 Thread Fanus

Hi Rick
I get the error message before I get to the point of rebooting i.e. the 
install says that it cannot install the patch and then there is only an OK 
button which quits the download and install process.

Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express



Hi Fanus,
I do not use Avast, so I can't really comment on that part of your 
question,

only to say that if you disable it to install Jaws, make sure that you
disable your Internet connection first, and re-enable it before
re-connecting to the Internet after installation.
I would think that you would get a security window from Avast to allow the
installation, if that is what's blocking it.
Have you tried re-booting the computer?

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


Hi Rick
So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has
something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the
process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use
avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and
reinstall?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express



Hi Fanus,
I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning.
The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new 
message.

All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it.


HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


Hello list
I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this
morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the
download
but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there
may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I
try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to 
type
in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the 
message

jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read
the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I
have
typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the
problem
does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can 
read

line by line etc.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Chicken Nugget

2014-10-01 Thread Cristóbal
I started dealing with similar issues four or five weeks ago. I submitted a
support request, but never heard anything back from the dev. Either via
email or through Twitter as I reached out via both methods. 
I've found that sometimes if you just leave Nugget alone for a bit, things
will work, but that's anything but an ideal solution. 
I've found myself using Nugget less and less because of this and other
problems that have been popping up. Needdless to say, the lack of any tech
support or acknowledgement of requests has also been most discouraging 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Chicken Nugget

This just startsed a few days ago. I can send regular tweets, but not
replies or dms. I'm able to send rt's too.

On 9/30/14, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 I am able to do the reply and post and all other functions.
 On 9/30/2014 10:56 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews wrote:
 Is it just me, or is Chicken Nugget not allowing me to do anything, 
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[JAWS-Users] Chicken Nugget

2014-10-01 Thread StoneGeno
I wrote to my friend that uses this and he noted below, maybe a help to you?
I've never had those issues, and deleting the coordinates.db file in CN's 
%appdata% folder straightened out the problem I was having.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Chicken Nugget

2014-10-01 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Yes, I agree. I wish I could get a refund, and try Quartizer Project
again as they were responsive.

On 10/1/14, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 I started dealing with similar issues four or five weeks ago. I submitted a
 support request, but never heard anything back from the dev. Either via
 email or through Twitter as I reached out via both methods.
 I've found that sometimes if you just leave Nugget alone for a bit, things
 will work, but that's anything but an ideal solution.
 I've found myself using Nugget less and less because of this and other
 problems that have been popping up. Needdless to say, the lack of any tech
 support or acknowledgement of requests has also been most discouraging

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 Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:38 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Chicken Nugget

 This just startsed a few days ago. I can send regular tweets, but not
 replies or dms. I'm able to send rt's too.

 On 9/30/14, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 I am able to do the reply and post and all other functions.
 On 9/30/2014 10:56 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews wrote:
 Is it just me, or is Chicken Nugget not allowing me to do anything,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express

2014-10-01 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Fanus,
I would go to Freedom Scientific's web site and download
the entire install, in that case.


HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


Hi Rick
I get the error message before I get to the point of rebooting i.e. the
install says that it cannot install the patch and then there is only an OK
button which quits the download and install process.
Regards
Fanus

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From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


 Hi Fanus,
 I do not use Avast, so I can't really comment on that part of your
 question,
 only to say that if you disable it to install Jaws, make sure that you
 disable your Internet connection first, and re-enable it before
 re-connecting to the Internet after installation.
 I would think that you would get a security window from Avast to allow the
 installation, if that is what's blocking it.
 Have you tried re-booting the computer?

 HTH,
 Rick Justice

 Tomorrow's another day, another way!
 and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

 - Original Message - 
 From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


 Hi Rick
 So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has
 something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the
 process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use
 avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and
 reinstall?
 Regards
 Fanus

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


 Hi Fanus,
 I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning.
 The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new
 message.
 All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it.


 HTH,
 Rick Justice

 Tomorrow's another day, another way!
 and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

 - Original Message - 
 From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


 Hello list
 I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this
 morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the
 download
 but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there
 may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I
 try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to
 type
 in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the
 message
 jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read
 the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I
 have
 typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the
 problem
 does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can
 read
 line by line etc.
 Regards
 Fanus


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express

2014-10-01 Thread Steve
Did you re-install the patch scripts for Outlook Express in your Jaws 16 
beta?

I had to do that with the first release of Jaws 16.  But, my update went 
fine and I am using OE with my Win 7 machine as I am writing this.  I just 
ran the update from the Jaws update instead of downloading the whole beta.

If you need the script, I think Dave posted it up on the Jaws-users.com 
website, or send me an email off-list and I can send it to you.
- Original Message - 
From: Fanus
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


Hello list
I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this 
morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the download 
but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there 
may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I 
try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type 
in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message 
jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read 
the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I have 
typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the problem 
does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read 
line by line etc.
Regards
Fanus


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[JAWS-Users] Accessible Web Browsers

2014-10-01 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express

2014-10-01 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

If the internet connection is disabled while AVAST is disabled, it will be
impossible to download and update the JAWS patch.  You would need to have
downloaded the full updated version before disabling Avast and the internet
connection.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:13
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express

Hi Fanus,
I do not use Avast, so I can't really comment on that part of your question,
only to say that if you disable it to install Jaws, make sure that you
disable your Internet connection first, and re-enable it before
re-connecting to the Internet after installation.
I would think that you would get a security window from Avast to allow the
installation, if that is what's blocking it.
Have you tried re-booting the computer?

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


Hi Rick
So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has
something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the
process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use
avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and
reinstall?
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


 Hi Fanus,
 I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning.
 The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new message.
 All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it.


 HTH,
 Rick Justice

 Tomorrow's another day, another way!
 and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

 - Original Message - 
 From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express


 Hello list
 I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this
 morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the
 download
 but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there
 may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I
 try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type
 in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message
 jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read
 the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I
 have
 typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the
 problem
 does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read
 line by line etc.
 Regards
 Fanus


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[JAWS-Users] Thunderbird and the address book

2014-10-01 Thread leonard morris
I inadvertently deleted several contacts in my Thunderbird address book. 
However, I have Thunderbird on another computer with all the contacts 
still in tack. Is there a file I can get from the PC containing the 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

2014-10-01 Thread Bob
If the program is available officially for a supported version of 
windows then report it.
FS wont make any changes to jaws 16 to improve access to outlook express 
as it is not supported by MS.



On 01/10/2014 16:51, East, Robin wrote:

Agreed. FS needs to decide specifically what reports they need.
Thank you
Later...
Robin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Justice
Sent: October 1, 2014 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

Hi Robin,
Windows Mail in Windows 7 is a registry edit, and Outlook Express, was not
engineered by Microsoft to workin Windows 7
and therefore may have unexpected side-effects , which FS would not have
anticipated in the  development stage of Jaws.
This is a question best answered by a representative from FS,
I only mentioned it because the 2 clients mentioned, while are Microsoft
products,
are not being used in the versions of Windows that Microsoft intended.
It's kind of like using a screwdriver for a pry bar
if that is what you use it for, don't expect the manufacturer to replace it
when it breaks.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta


They are still important applications that need to work with JAWS. I would
think that FS wuld appreciate all bugs on popular applications and they
can decide if they want to make corrections or not. If we do not inform them
then some folks using JAWS and these applications will switch to NVDA or
other screen reader softwares. I do not think FS wants to lose any more
folks then theyall ready have.
Mind you it would be good to have Eric comment on this.

Later...

robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: October 1, 2014 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

Hi Fanus and all members,
I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware,
Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7
are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws
This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft
in Windows 7 or higher.
So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on
the beta report form.
If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know.

HTH,
Rick Justice

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and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

2014-10-01 Thread Flor Lynch
There are many other programs not owned or developed by Microsoft that 
run on Windows currently, several of which JAWS supports (or has 
supported).


- Original Message - 
From: Bob t...@squashyware.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta


If the program is available officially for a supported version of 
windows then report it.
FS wont make any changes to jaws 16 to improve access to outlook 
express as it is not supported by MS.



On 01/10/2014 16:51, East, Robin wrote:

Agreed. FS needs to decide specifically what reports they need.
Thank you
Later...
Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Rick Justice

Sent: October 1, 2014 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

Hi Robin,
Windows Mail in Windows 7 is a registry edit, and Outlook Express, 
was not

engineered by Microsoft to workin Windows 7
and therefore may have unexpected side-effects , which FS would not 
have

anticipated in the  development stage of Jaws.
This is a question best answered by a representative from FS,
I only mentioned it because the 2 clients mentioned, while are 
Microsoft

products,
are not being used in the versions of Windows that Microsoft 
intended.

It's kind of like using a screwdriver for a pry bar
if that is what you use it for, don't expect the manufacturer to 
replace it

when it breaks.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message -
From: East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta


They are still important applications that need to work with JAWS. I 
would
think that FS wuld appreciate all bugs on popular applications and 
they
can decide if they want to make corrections or not. If we do not 
inform them
then some folks using JAWS and these applications will switch to NVDA 
or
other screen reader softwares. I do not think FS wants to lose any 
more

folks then theyall ready have.
Mind you it would be good to have Eric comment on this.

Later...

robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On

Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: October 1, 2014 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta

Hi Fanus and all members,
I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be 
aware,

Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7
are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws
This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by 
Microsoft

in Windows 7 or higher.
So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably 
not go on

the beta report form.
If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know.

HTH,
Rick Justice

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and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


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