Re: [JAWS-Users] Demo Version of Jaws was turn off function keys?

[David Moore]

Hi,
That is correct. You can even tandum to another computer using JAWS with a demo 
version.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Scorpio
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Demo Version of Jaws was turn off function keys?

As far as I know, a demo version is a fully functioning version of Jaws, the 
only limit is the forty minute mode, but other than that, you should be able 
to change the settings, save those changes and the like and continue using 
it in forty minute mode until you get the unlock code.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

...then you will not have much success, my friend.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 13:10
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am still waiting for the unlock key.
but if these options do not work as a demo it does not  give me any messages
that it is not supported. the changes show they have been saved. but the
muted
keys still talk as a standard user. but not logged in as administrator,
which i
do not want to do because of viruses.
-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi,
Don't expect the demo jaws to work like the home or pro
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws
18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the 

Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Dave ...]

Okay, never heard of this program. I still think you can call FS and ask 
them to accelerate the process.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 21:20
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


no. this is a free window eyes 9.5 to jaws  18 upgrade offer until july 31 
but
i have to wait for aisquared to send a activation key.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Unlock key? Just call FS to get it, if you have purchased a copy.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 19:51
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


only until i get the unlock key. i have been waiting for 3 days now.
and i got it working by copying the freedom scientific folder from the
administrator account to the standard user account. now  i can mute the keys
and it works..


-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Didn't you just tell us that you were using a demo version of JAWS?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:31
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when
i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws 18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning 

Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[net bat66]

no. this is a free window eyes 9.5 to jaws  18 upgrade offer until july 31 but 
i have to wait for aisquared to send a activation key.



-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Unlock key? Just call FS to get it, if you have purchased a copy.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 19:51
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


only until i get the unlock key. i have been waiting for 3 days now.
and i got it working by copying the freedom scientific folder from the
administrator account to the standard user account. now  i can mute the keys
and it works..


-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Didn't you just tell us that you were using a demo version of JAWS?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:31
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when
i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws 18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked 

Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Dave ...]

Unlock key? Just call FS to get it, if you have purchased a copy.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 19:51
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


only until i get the unlock key. i have been waiting for 3 days now.
and i got it working by copying the freedom scientific folder from the
administrator account to the standard user account. now  i can mute the keys
and it works..


-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Didn't you just tell us that you were using a demo version of JAWS?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:31
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when
i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws 18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions 

Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[net bat66]

only until i get the unlock key. i have been waiting for 3 days now.
and i got it working by copying the freedom scientific folder from the 
administrator account to the standard user account. now  i can mute the keys 
and it works..



-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Didn't you just tell us that you were using a demo version of JAWS?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:31
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when
i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws 18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Demo Version of Jaws was turn off function keys?

[Scorpio]

As far as I know, a demo version is a fully functioning version of Jaws, the 
only limit is the forty minute mode, but other than that, you should be able 
to change the settings, save those changes and the like and continue using 
it in forty minute mode until you get the unlock code.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

...then you will not have much success, my friend.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 13:10
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am still waiting for the unlock key.
but if these options do not work as a demo it does not  give me any messages
that it is not supported. the changes show they have been saved. but the
muted
keys still talk as a standard user. but not logged in as administrator,
which i
do not want to do because of viruses.
-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi,
Don't expect the demo jaws to work like the home or pro
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws
18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[net bat66]

well i got it working so far.
this is not for the average  user. grin
i renamed the freedom scientific folder in the standard user account and copied 
the same folder name from my administrator to the standard user folder and i 
can now make the key label changes logged in as a standard user.
if it messes up something i can delete the folder and rename the original 
folder back again.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

...then you will not have much success, my friend.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 13:10
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am still waiting for the unlock key.
but if these options do not work as a demo it does not  give me any messages
that it is not supported. the changes show they have been saved. but the
muted
keys still talk as a standard user. but not logged in as administrator,
which i
do not want to do because of viruses.
-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi,
Don't expect the demo jaws to work like the home or pro
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws
18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



For answers to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[David Moore]

Hi Justin,
JAWS 15-18 has the touch cursor!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Is this JAWS 18?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi Tom,
The touch cursor memics using your finger on a touch screen, only you use the 
keyboard on your computer to accomplish the same thing. When you turn on the 
touch cursor, the right arrow is like swiping your finger to the right on a 
touch screen. You do not need a touch screen on your computer for this to work. 
Using the touch cursor and your arrow keys, allows you to access many controls 
that you cannot ever get to with the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. You can 
press your arrow keys, and access the buttons on the toolbars of MS word, for 
example. The touch cursor does not show up in JAWS until version 15.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

what's the touch cursor?

-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC cursor.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe twice. 
I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer 
> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I 
> donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
>
>
> Thanks for any answers.
>
>
> Sadam Ahmed
>
> Mobile:
>
> + 61 435 892 944
>
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
>
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[Justin Williams]

Is this JAWS 18?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi Tom,
The touch cursor memics using your finger on a touch screen, only you use the 
keyboard on your computer to accomplish the same thing. When you turn on the 
touch cursor, the right arrow is like swiping your finger to the right on a 
touch screen. You do not need a touch screen on your computer for this to work. 
Using the touch cursor and your arrow keys, allows you to access many controls 
that you cannot ever get to with the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. You can 
press your arrow keys, and access the buttons on the toolbars of MS word, for 
example. The touch cursor does not show up in JAWS until version 15.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

what's the touch cursor?

-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC cursor.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe twice. 
I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer 
> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I 
> donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
>
>
> Thanks for any answers.
>
>
> Sadam Ahmed
>
> Mobile:
>
> + 61 435 892 944
>
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
>
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[Justin Williams]

How do you turn on the touch feature in jaws 16, or is it in jaws 16 on a 
desktop?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi Tom,
The touch cursor memics using your finger on a touch screen, only you use the 
keyboard on your computer to accomplish the same thing. When you turn on the 
touch cursor, the right arrow is like swiping your finger to the right on a 
touch screen. You do not need a touch screen on your computer for this to work. 
Using the touch cursor and your arrow keys, allows you to access many controls 
that you cannot ever get to with the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. You can 
press your arrow keys, and access the buttons on the toolbars of MS word, for 
example. The touch cursor does not show up in JAWS until version 15.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

what's the touch cursor?

-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC cursor.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe twice. 
I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer 
> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I 
> donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
>
>
> Thanks for any answers.
>
>
> Sadam Ahmed
>
> Mobile:
>
> + 61 435 892 944
>
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
>
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Dave ...]

...then you will not have much success, my friend.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 13:10
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am still waiting for the unlock key.
but if these options do not work as a demo it does not  give me any messages
that it is not supported. the changes show they have been saved. but the 
muted
keys still talk as a standard user. but not logged in as administrator, 
which i
do not want to do because of viruses.
-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi,
Don't expect the demo jaws to work like the home or pro
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws
18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Dave ...]

Didn't you just tell us that you were using a demo version of JAWS?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:31
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon 
when
i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws 18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still 
speak.



-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



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Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Dave ...]

Sorry, cant' help you more than that. Perhaps you need to buy JAWS rather 
than using a demo.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:59
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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[JAWS-Users] clickable headings

[Lenny McHugh]

I am seeing many more clickable headings in chrome. How do you activate 
them?I tried every key combination that I could think of including left and 
right mouse click.
Thanks


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Re: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

[wayne smith]

David, I tried to follow your directions and found out that my HP laptop
with a "full keyboard" does not seem to have a pause or screenshot key.  I
never noticed it before.  Is there another way to get that info?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

Hi Tom,
The command:
Windows key+pause will bring up all of that information!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom Clary
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

 what are the jaws keystrokes to check what size hard drive is on my laptop?
jaws 17, vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

[David Moore]

Hi Tom,
The command:
Windows key+pause will bring up all of that information!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom Clary
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

 what are the jaws keystrokes to check what size hard drive is on my
laptop? jaws 17, vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

[Maria Campbell]

When you open wf, tab to home, down arrow to virus and threat 
protection, enter, tab to advanced, enter, and you will be able to 
choose the type of scan you want.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/17/2017 3:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
This is because Windows Defender is now a universal app and starts up
automatically (unles my recollection on that is wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph

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Behalf Of Fred C. Adams
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

Since I updated to Win 10 Creator upgrade I have not been able to start
windows defender.  I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how this
is now done.  I have tried everything I can think of but nothing works.
Will appreciate any help.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
THE HOUR IS LATE AND
THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[David Moore]

Hi Tom,
The touch cursor memics using your finger on a touch screen, only you use the 
keyboard on your computer to accomplish the same thing. When you turn on the 
touch cursor, the right arrow is like swiping your finger to the right on a 
touch screen. You do not need a touch screen on your computer for this to work. 
Using the touch cursor and your arrow keys, allows you to access many controls 
that you cannot ever get to with the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. You can 
press your arrow keys, and access the buttons on the toolbars of MS word, for 
example. The touch cursor does not show up in JAWS until version 15.
Have a great one.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

what's the touch cursor?

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC 
cursor.
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe 
twice. I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I 
> donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
>
>
> Thanks for any answers.
>
>
> Sadam Ahmed
>
> Mobile:
>
> + 61 435 892 944
>
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
>
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[Tom]

what's the touch cursor?

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC 
cursor.

John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Wocher

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe 
twice. I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.


Regards,
Greg Wocher
On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer  
wrote:


Hi,

Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I 
donn’t use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.




Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi all,


I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?


Thanks for any answers.


Sadam Ahmed

Mobile:

+ 61 435 892 944

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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Mike B.]

Hi Net bat,

If you're running in demo mode maybe that's the reason why the changes don't 
work.  I do know they work when not in demo mode.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[David Moore]

Hi,
For a laptop,
To turn on the touch cursor, press:
Shift+capslock+semicolon, To turn it off, press:
Capslock+semicolon twice to go back to the PC cursor.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC cursor. 
 
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe twice. 
I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I donn’t 
> use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
> 
> 
> Thanks for any answers.
> 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Mobile:
> 
> + 61 435 892 944
> 
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
> 
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[John R. Vaughn]

On my desktop, here are the keystrokes for replicating the touch cursor and 
going back to regular cursor.
the touch curser, to use the touch cursor, press Shift+PC cursor, on the num 
pad, press the PC cursor two times quickly to go back to the regular PC cursor. 
 
John
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:41 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe twice. 
I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I donn’t 
> use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
> 
> 
> Thanks for any answers.
> 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Mobile:
> 
> + 61 435 892 944
> 
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
> 
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New computer, Creators update

[David Moore]

Wow, Jim,
That sounds like a great computer. I have never heard of a Hard drive and a SSD 
drive working together. Is Windows on the harddrive, but then the SSD drive 
allows Windows to load faster?
Does anything permantly stay on the SSD drive, or is it just a dump drive to 
allow processes to occur faster? Wow, sounds great. I have just a SSD drive on 
this little HP laptop I use, and I love it. When I use my other laptop with the 
Regular Hard drive, I get so impatient, because it takes so much longer for 
processes to occur. I am so happy for you!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New computer, Creators update

Good evening Jaws users group. I have a new computer I wanted to let you know 
about. At first, I was not sure how Jaws would work with a hybrid drive. But 
Jaws 18 works fantastic with one. I finally upgraded the new computer today to 
the creators update. Read the computer information below, before now I always 
used an Acer computer. But this Lenovo start fast. After pressing the power 
button in about 4 or 5 seconds, Jaws comes up talking on the pin log-in screen. 
I bought this desktop on sale at best buy for $579, this was a bargan.
Name: Lenovo-710-25ISH Desktop (ideacentre)
System
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz 2.71 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
This has a one TB of storage, regular Sodda drive.
This also has a 8 GB's SSD drive.
They call it a hybred drive.
Having the SSD drive allows for fast start up, very fast.
They work together, when doing a big task, information is dumped to the SSD 
drive, and than converted back to the regular drive.
This is the best way I can explain it.
The computer works fantastic and the computer is very quick.
I highly recommend this computer to anyone who is looking for a new computer. 
Smiles.

>From your humble Pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws group.

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[JAWS-Users] New computer, Creators update

[Jim Flusche]

Good evening Jaws users group. I have a new computer I wanted to let you know 
about. At first, I was not sure how Jaws would work with a hybrid drive. But 
Jaws 18 works fantastic with one. I finally upgraded the new computer today to 
the creators update. Read the computer information below, before now I always 
used an Acer computer. But this Lenovo start fast. After pressing the power 
button in about 4 or 5 seconds, Jaws comes up talking on the pin log-in screen. 
I bought this desktop on sale at best buy for $579, this was a bargan.
Name: Lenovo-710-25ISH Desktop (ideacentre)
System
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz 2.71 GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 8.00 GB
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
This has a one TB of storage, regular Sodda drive.
This also has a 8 GB's SSD drive.
They call it a hybred drive.
Having the SSD drive allows for fast start up, very fast.
They work together, when doing a big task, information is dumped to the SSD 
drive, and than converted back to the regular drive.
This is the best way I can explain it.
The computer works fantastic and the computer is very quick.
I highly recommend this computer to anyone who is looking for a new computer. 
Smiles.

>From your humble Pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws group.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
THe laptop keystroke is:
capslock plus shift plus semicolon to enable it.
To disable it:
either press caps lock plus semicolon twice or capslock plus apostrophe twice. 
I can’t remember which it is off the top of my head.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On May 17, 2017, at 4:11 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I donn’t 
> use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?
> 
> 
> Thanks for any answers.
> 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> Mobile:
> 
> + 61 435 892 944
> 
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
> 
> sa...@sadamahmed.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with online purchase

[Nate Kile]

No problem. NVDA is always my second go to. I used it primarily for about 3
years and think that it is a great back up to have on hand. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Susan Wojtecki
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with online purchase

I tried Clifford's suggestion of turning off the virtual cursor, but still
no joy. And yes, there are situations where I've had better results than
Firefox, but not this time. Nate, I wondered how well NVDA works with IE  as
opposed to Edge. I've used it briefly after upgrading to Windows 10 but not
enough to be really comfortable with it yet. i'll have a play with this some
other time, but today ultimately decided that a phone order was easier and
quicker, lol, so mission accomplished but still puzzled. Thanks to you both
for your responses.

Susan

On 5/16/17, Nate Kile  wrote:
> Have you tried with Fire Fox? Also, this is a reason to always have 
> two browsers as well as screen readers installed such as NVDA, this is 
> something I drive home to my students.
> HTH
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:21 AM
> To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with online purchase
>
> You might toggle the virtual cursor off with insert+z, then try to 
> click the card.  Don't know if that will work or not.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Susan Wojtecki
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with online purchase
>
> --
> susan
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
> I am having difficulty entering payment information at the National 
> Braille Press site at www.nbp.org and would appreciate any assistance.
> Using latest version of JAWS and IE with Windows 10, the payment 
> screen shows what appears to be a graphic with the text of the card 
> type. I am unable to check the correct graphic by any of the usual 
> ways--pressing enter or the spacebar or shift-F10. Can anyone 
> replicate this and/or suggest what to try? have used this site 
> successfully many times with JAWS 12 and IE 9 so do not think the 
> problem is with the page itself or even JAWS necessarily. I expect 
> this is a simple fix too, smile, but caffeine hasn't really kicked in 
> either. Tia.
>
> Susan
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[net bat66]

i am still waiting for the unlock key.
but if these options do not work as a demo it does not  give me any messages 
that it is not supported. the changes show they have been saved. but the muted 
keys still talk as a standard user. but not logged in as administrator, which i 
do not want to do because of viruses.
-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi,
Don't expect the demo jaws to work like the home or pro
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws
18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Shift Numpad plus will enable it.  Not sure of the laptop command as I donn’t 
use the laptop keyboard layout at the moment.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi all,


I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?


Thanks for any answers.


Sadam Ahmed

Mobile:

+ 61 435 892 944
   
FaceTime, iMessage & email

sa...@sadamahmed.com

  


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[JAWS-Users] Dreamweaver CS6 and Jaws16

[Teresa Arroyo Llosa]

Hello all,

I am following a course on Dreamweaver CS6 and I am finding thathe program 
isn’t very accessible with  Jaws. For example, I am doing an excersice where I 
need to do a bulleted list. For this, I must go to propeties and press the html 
button, yet I can’t acces such pane (Dreamweaver has a pane with buttons that I 
can’t access). I can’t even navigate panes with F6.

Now, there is a layout tab in the ribbons where lists is presented as a menu. 
In that menu there is a ‘properties...’, but is is in gray (unavailable), and 
next is a ‘none checked’ (I can’t uncheck it).

Does any one know how to work it around? Are there any jaws scripts to make 
Dreamweaver CS6 more accessible with Jaws?

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

Teresa Arroyo Llosa

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

[Fred C. Adams]

Joseph, thanks for the info.  Thanks for all of the info you put out on
different list.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

Hi,
This is because Windows Defender is now a universal app and starts up
automatically (unles my recollection on that is wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred C. Adams
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

Since I updated to Win 10 Creator upgrade I have not been able to start
windows defender.  I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how this
is now done.  I have tried everything I can think of but nothing works.
Will appreciate any help.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
THE HOUR IS LATE AND
THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT



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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[TheHangMan]

Hi,
Don't expect the demo jaws to work like the home or pro
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a
standard user.
jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon
when i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws
18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still
speak.



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

[Rick Justice]

Hi Fred,
In the latest version of Windows 10, Windows Defender is enabled and running 
by default.
If you wish to look at the settings, look for:
Windows Defender Security Center
 in the start menu.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "Fred C. Adams" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:34 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender


Since I updated to Win 10 Creator upgrade I have not been able to start
windows defender.  I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how this
is now done.  I have tried everything I can think of but nothing works.
Will appreciate any help.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
THE HOUR IS LATE AND
THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
This is because Windows Defender is now a universal app and starts up
automatically (unles my recollection on that is wrong).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred C. Adams
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

Since I updated to Win 10 Creator upgrade I have not been able to start
windows defender.  I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how this
is now done.  I have tried everything I can think of but nothing works.
Will appreciate any help.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
THE HOUR IS LATE AND
THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT



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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[net bat66]

i am finding serious problems with jaws over window eyes.
at least with window eyes i can make changes to the settings running as a 
standard user.

jaws will not. thats the problem.
the settings go through the mosion of makeing changes to the keyboard labels 
and show they have been saved. but they are not. no changes are acted upon when 
i press the keys i muted. even after rebooting the computer and jaws 18.
i tried running jaws as administrator in the desktop icon. but when it runes 
both jaws and the ease of access center also runs. the muted keys still speak.




-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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[JAWS-Users] Win 10 defender

[Fred C. Adams]

Since I updated to Win 10 Creator upgrade I have not been able to start
windows defender.  I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how this
is now done.  I have tried everything I can think of but nothing works.
Will appreciate any help.

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
THE HOUR IS LATE AND
THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT



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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Jeff Christiansen]

Have you restarted JAWS since modifications?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message -
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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[JAWS-Users] check hardware on a laptop

[Tom Clary]

 what are the jaws keystrokes to check what size hard drive is on my
laptop? jaws 17, vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[net bat66]

this is not working.
i have all of the function,escape,enter, etc. muted but they still speak.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press,
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open.
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key,
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: net bat66

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[net bat66]

does it matter if its the demo? i am still waiting for the unlock key.
if i look at the list of keys i have all of the function keys, page up and down 
, home , enter, escape muted. but they still speak and the changes are egnored.

i have reloaded the computer but the changes still do not work.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

First go to the settings center. Then press Ctrl+shift+D to open the default
settings.
Then type "manage key labels" in the search field.
Then tab to that list choice and press the spacebar to activate.
Then Ctrl+tab to the dialog. Here you find a list of several spoken and
unspoken keystrokes.
Arrow to the function keys (or press the letter f until you reach them).
For each key you want to mute, press Alt+t and it should then indicate mute.
When completed, tab to okay.
Then Ctrl+tab to go back to the settings dialog and tab to okay.
Press enter.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 01:33
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Dave ...]

First go to the settings center. Then press Ctrl+shift+D to open the default 
settings.
Then type "manage key labels" in the search field.
Then tab to that list choice and press the spacebar to activate.
Then Ctrl+tab to the dialog. Here you find a list of several spoken and 
unspoken keystrokes.
Arrow to the function keys (or press the letter f until you reach them).
For each key you want to mute, press Alt+t and it should then indicate mute.
When completed, tab to okay.
Then Ctrl+tab to go back to the settings dialog and tab to okay.
Press enter.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 01:33
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where 
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in 
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Replying Privately to Sender

[TheHangMan]

Hi,
 Here in J-U is simpler, press insert + shift + R from an open message
Other clubs, you must copy the senders address, shift tab back to the too 
field , delete the address and paste in the senders
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Replying Privately to Sender

thanks, just tried it when I tabbed to the address all I had to do was to 
enter on it and it opened a new email with the address in the send field.

-Original Message-
From: Easy Rider
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Replying Privately to Sender


 Hello Gerald,

Try the following:

Open the e-mail you want to get the e-mail address.

Shift+F6.

Shift+Tab till you get to the address.

Use Application key or Shift+F10 and arrow to copy and enter.



On 5/16/2017 8:31 AM, Justin Williams wrote:
> When I try it, I don't see the person's private e-mail.
> Justin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:36 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Replying Privately to Sender
>
>
> Hi list.  Using Windows Live Mail 2012 with JAWS 16, I want to reply
> privately off-list to a sender who posted a message on another email list
> I belong to.  But when I highlight the message and select the Reply to
> Sender option from the context menu, the "To" field is filled in with the
> address of the email list rather than the address of the sender to whom I
> wish to reply privately.  Short of manually entering the sender's address
> into the "To" field, is there any other way to reply privately to a sender
> in WLM that works?  Thanks.
>
> Gerald
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
I suggest calling VFO first, then let's think about getting your Windows 10
updated. But to make sure you're running the version you think you've got,
can you try the following for me:
1. Open Start menu.
2. Type "winver" (without quotes) and press ENTER.
3. Note down the build number you got and reply to me with this information.
In the meantime, I'll forward this query to a list that deals with Windows
10.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi Joseph,

That was a great idea for troubleshooting! Narrator worked correctly. When I
would come to a menu with a submenu it would say "menu collapsed," and I
could open, review the options and close it normally. So it does seem to be
a JAWS issue. I looked through the setting center hoping to find something
that might help and no luck! Do you have any other ideas? I see two choices
at this point, I call VFO for JAWS help, or I try to solve my problem I have
with updating windows, and get Windows 10 updated.

Thanks for the help!

Debby
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
What happens if you use Narrator and try to access menus with submenus? If
you can navigate back to a parent menu, chances are that it might be
something to do with JAWS.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Yes, it is all menus with submenus. Of course, ribbons seem to work fine. 

I called it Windows 10 2015 because I couldn't remember what the first
version of windows 10 was called (smile) I have tried to update, but that is
another story I am working on. But if updating would solve this problem, I
will work harder on the story. It is really inconvenient not to be able to
get out of submenus that you don't want to be within in the first place.

Thanks!

Debby

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
Is this for all menus with submenus or just several? And you say you're
running a 2015 release of Windows 10?
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hello,

 

I am running Windows 10, the 2015 version, on a 64-bit Dell computer with
JAWS 17 and 18. The problem only happens in menus with submenus. When I am
arrowing through a menu that has submenus, I get stuck in the submenu. I
have a tough time getting out of the submenu and getting back to the main
menu. For example, If I go to the JAWS 18 icon on my desktop and press
enter, because the tandem item has a submenu it automatically opens and I
see "allow access to my computer ." and if I arrow down I see "get access to
a computer." If I arrow down again, I go back to "allow access to my
computer ." I have tried both left arrow and backspace to get out of
submenus, but they don't work. Escape just takes me out of the menu system
altogether. (I feel like that 1969 song "You got me going in circles" by
Friends of Distinction. Yikes! My age is showing.)

 

I have looked on the Freedom Scientific site and tried googling for an
answer, but this is a weird situation and difficult to describe for google.
Any ideas? Do I have something set incorrectly in Windows 10? Do keyboards
have drivers? I have looked on the Dell site for drivers with no luck. (My
search on Dell site just shows me a ton of keyboards I could buy.)

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated! Have fun!

 

Debby

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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

[Debby]

Hi Joseph,

That was a great idea for troubleshooting! Narrator worked correctly. When I
would come to a menu with a submenu it would say "menu collapsed," and I
could open, review the options and close it normally. So it does seem to be
a JAWS issue. I looked through the setting center hoping to find something
that might help and no luck! Do you have any other ideas? I see two choices
at this point, I call VFO for JAWS help, or I try to solve my problem I have
with updating windows, and get Windows 10 updated.

Thanks for the help!

Debby
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
What happens if you use Narrator and try to access menus with submenus? If
you can navigate back to a parent menu, chances are that it might be
something to do with JAWS.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Yes, it is all menus with submenus. Of course, ribbons seem to work fine. 

I called it Windows 10 2015 because I couldn't remember what the first
version of windows 10 was called (smile) I have tried to update, but that is
another story I am working on. But if updating would solve this problem, I
will work harder on the story. It is really inconvenient not to be able to
get out of submenus that you don't want to be within in the first place.

Thanks!

Debby

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
Is this for all menus with submenus or just several? And you say you're
running a 2015 release of Windows 10?
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hello,

 

I am running Windows 10, the 2015 version, on a 64-bit Dell computer with
JAWS 17 and 18. The problem only happens in menus with submenus. When I am
arrowing through a menu that has submenus, I get stuck in the submenu. I
have a tough time getting out of the submenu and getting back to the main
menu. For example, If I go to the JAWS 18 icon on my desktop and press
enter, because the tandem item has a submenu it automatically opens and I
see "allow access to my computer ." and if I arrow down I see "get access to
a computer." If I arrow down again, I go back to "allow access to my
computer ." I have tried both left arrow and backspace to get out of
submenus, but they don't work. Escape just takes me out of the menu system
altogether. (I feel like that 1969 song "You got me going in circles" by
Friends of Distinction. Yikes! My age is showing.)

 

I have looked on the Freedom Scientific site and tried googling for an
answer, but this is a weird situation and difficult to describe for google.
Any ideas? Do I have something set incorrectly in Windows 10? Do keyboards
have drivers? I have looked on the Dell site for drivers with no luck. (My
search on Dell site just shows me a ton of keyboards I could buy.)

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated! Have fun!

 

Debby

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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Mike B.]

Hi Net bat,

From: Mike B
Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press, 
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open. 
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to 
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press 
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key, 
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab 
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: net bat66
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where 
everything
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in 
the
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



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Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

[Joseph Lee]

Hi,
What happens if you use Narrator and try to access menus with submenus? If
you can navigate back to a parent menu, chances are that it might be
something to do with JAWS.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Yes, it is all menus with submenus. Of course, ribbons seem to work fine. 

I called it Windows 10 2015 because I couldn't remember what the first
version of windows 10 was called (smile) I have tried to update, but that is
another story I am working on. But if updating would solve this problem, I
will work harder on the story. It is really inconvenient not to be able to
get out of submenus that you don't want to be within in the first place.

Thanks!

Debby

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
Is this for all menus with submenus or just several? And you say you're
running a 2015 release of Windows 10?
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hello,

 

I am running Windows 10, the 2015 version, on a 64-bit Dell computer with
JAWS 17 and 18. The problem only happens in menus with submenus. When I am
arrowing through a menu that has submenus, I get stuck in the submenu. I
have a tough time getting out of the submenu and getting back to the main
menu. For example, If I go to the JAWS 18 icon on my desktop and press
enter, because the tandem item has a submenu it automatically opens and I
see "allow access to my computer ." and if I arrow down I see "get access to
a computer." If I arrow down again, I go back to "allow access to my
computer ." I have tried both left arrow and backspace to get out of
submenus, but they don't work. Escape just takes me out of the menu system
altogether. (I feel like that 1969 song "You got me going in circles" by
Friends of Distinction. Yikes! My age is showing.)

 

I have looked on the Freedom Scientific site and tried googling for an
answer, but this is a weird situation and difficult to describe for google.
Any ideas? Do I have something set incorrectly in Windows 10? Do keyboards
have drivers? I have looked on the Dell site for drivers with no luck. (My
search on Dell site just shows me a ton of keyboards I could buy.)

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated! Have fun!

 

Debby

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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Subash]

Hi, you can use the manage key lable to do this.
Insert F2
Settings centre
Keyboard.
hth

-Original Message- 
From: net bat66

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where 
everything

is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in 
the

utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.


-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

[Debby]

Yes, it is all menus with submenus. Of course, ribbons seem to work fine. 

I called it Windows 10 2015 because I couldn't remember what the first
version of windows 10 was called (smile) I have tried to update, but that is
another story I am working on. But if updating would solve this problem, I
will work harder on the story. It is really inconvenient not to be able to
get out of submenus that you don't want to be within in the first place.

Thanks!

Debby

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hi,
Is this for all menus with submenus or just several? And you say you're
running a 2015 release of Windows 10?
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting stuck in submenus in Windows 10

Hello,

 

I am running Windows 10, the 2015 version, on a 64-bit Dell computer with
JAWS 17 and 18. The problem only happens in menus with submenus. When I am
arrowing through a menu that has submenus, I get stuck in the submenu. I
have a tough time getting out of the submenu and getting back to the main
menu. For example, If I go to the JAWS 18 icon on my desktop and press
enter, because the tandem item has a submenu it automatically opens and I
see "allow access to my computer ." and if I arrow down I see "get access to
a computer." If I arrow down again, I go back to "allow access to my
computer ." I have tried both left arrow and backspace to get out of
submenus, but they don't work. Escape just takes me out of the menu system
altogether. (I feel like that 1969 song "You got me going in circles" by
Friends of Distinction. Yikes! My age is showing.)

 

I have looked on the Freedom Scientific site and tried googling for an
answer, but this is a weird situation and difficult to describe for google.
Any ideas? Do I have something set incorrectly in Windows 10? Do keyboards
have drivers? I have looked on the Dell site for drivers with no luck. (My
search on Dell site just shows me a ton of keyboards I could buy.)

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated! Have fun!

 

Debby

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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[net bat66]

first i am a new user as of 2 days ago. grin. so i don't know where everything 
is or what they do.
i tried this but it hasn't worked. that is if i was in the right place, in the 
utility menu.
i muted the function page up down,home and saved these changes. and reloaded 
jaws 18. but these keys still speak. while on the windows 7 desktop.



-Original Message- 
From: Jeff Christiansen

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?


Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with online purchase

[Susan Wojtecki]

I tried Clifford's suggestion of turning off the virtual cursor, but
still no joy. And yes, there are situations where I've had better
results than Firefox, but not this time. Nate, I wondered how well
NVDA works with IE  as opposed to Edge. I've used it briefly after
upgrading to Windows 10 but not enough to be really comfortable with
it yet. i'll have a play with this some other time, but today
ultimately decided that a phone order was easier and quicker, lol, so
mission accomplished but still puzzled. Thanks to you both for your
responses.

Susan

On 5/16/17, Nate Kile  wrote:
> Have you tried with Fire Fox? Also, this is a reason to always have two
> browsers as well as screen readers installed such as NVDA, this is
> something
> I drive home to my students.
> HTH
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Blackwell, Clifford
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:21 AM
> To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with online purchase
>
> You might toggle the virtual cursor off with insert+z, then try to click
> the
> card.  Don't know if that will work or not.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Susan Wojtecki
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with online purchase
>
> --
> susan
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
> I am having difficulty entering payment information at the National
> Braille Press site at www.nbp.org and would appreciate any assistance.
> Using latest version of JAWS and IE with Windows 10, the payment
> screen shows what appears to be a graphic with the text of the card
> type. I am unable to check the correct graphic by any of the usual
> ways--pressing enter or the spacebar or shift-F10. Can anyone
> replicate this and/or suggest what to try? have used this site
> successfully many times with JAWS 12 and IE 9 so do not think the
> problem is with the page itself or even JAWS necessarily. I expect
> this is a simple fix too, smile, but caffeine hasn't really kicked in
> either. Tia.
>
> Susan
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[Jeff Christiansen]

Sadam

I am using a desktop, I use

Shift insert numPad plusKey



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

Hi all,


I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?


Thanks for any answers.


Sadam Ahmed

Mobile:

+ 61 435 892 944

FaceTime, iMessage & email

sa...@sadamahmed.com




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[JAWS-Users] Using the touch-cursor in JAWS.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all,


I am wondering how to turn on the touch-cursor  on a laptop and desktop?


Thanks for any answers.


Sadam Ahmed

Mobile:

+ 61 435 892 944
  
FaceTime, iMessage & email


sa...@sadamahmed.com

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[Jeff Christiansen]

Yes, just mute the key you want silenced.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys
or what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without
turning off the rest of the keys?



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[JAWS-Users] turn off function keys?

[net bat66]

is there an option to turn off the speaking of the function and control keys or 
what ever they are called?
like when it says escape, alt f4, enter , page up or down etc. without turning 
off the rest of the keys?




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