Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Dialup]

Actually, I don't think g mail uses POP these days, could be wrong.
But as the Jeff said, IMAP is much more versatile than POP.
Glen


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On 25-May-2017 12:27 pm, Audiobookfan wrote:
I'm not sure what might be going wrong, but if you want to access your 
mail on both your phone and your computer, you might want to consider 
using IMAP rather than POP3.


Jeff


On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get 
when I try to download my Email from Gmail.


Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. 
Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, 
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, 
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18


What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail=en_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235=1 



Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real 
time.


POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or 
Enable

POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter 
mail.domain.com,

then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering 
how do I

go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] help w/website

[Kimsan]

The website I was throwing a tamptrum over mysteriously just worked as I
just visited it now.

Thanks to all who took 30 seconds to verify that at the time it wasn't just
me.
Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help w/website

>From what I understand, using the iphone will not accomplish what I need to
get done which is why I'm doing it from the laptop.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help w/website

Kimsan,

Agreed, the latest version of JAWS locates neither links nor edit fields.
Two points of interest:

When I press insert-F6, JAWS tells me, in effect, that it isn't a virtual
document.

Second, when I turn off the virtual cursor, the tab items I find tell me
it's an Apple website. So maybe try with your iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help w/website

Hi,

Can anyone who is using the latest jaws version confirm that this site is
not functioning correctly and if so how can the appropriate information get
submitted

since the website is being a pain?

What I mean by appropriate information is that the website 

https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/

is where you could upload podcast info but the edit boxes and links on this
site seem that I can't get to them.

I've used NVDA and jaws and same results.

I've tried with both IE and firefox.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@icloud.com

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

[Kimsan]

Tim asked who the other mods were and Wayne said 
You guys rock! Thanks for all of the help and community! God bless you!

Wayne
Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

My apologies to Tim and Wayne because your replies to my message arrived
here blank. There is still something wrong with live mail 2012 even after I
repaired it a couple of times.

So I have no idea what your messages are saying. I'm sure if I ask Rick he
will forward them to me, I'm not so sure about Bob, maybe if I ask him real
nice.

Either way thanks for the replies.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count




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[JAWS-Users] List boxes in IE

[T. Civitello]

How do you open and navigate a list box in IE 11? I have been spinning my 
wheels trying to find the answer in The Jaws help .  Thanks, Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Audiobookfan]

I'm not sure what might be going wrong, but if you want to access your 
mail on both your phone and your computer, you might want to consider 
using IMAP rather than POP3.


Jeff


On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when 
I try to download my Email from Gmail.


Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. 
Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, 
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, 
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18


What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail=en_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235=1 



Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.

POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or 
Enable

POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how 
do I

go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

[David Ferrin]

My apologies to Tim and Wayne because your replies to my message arrived 
here blank. There is still something wrong with live mail 2012 even after I 
repaired it a couple of times.


So I have no idea what your messages are saying. I'm sure if I ask Rick he 
will forward them to me, I'm not so sure about Bob, maybe if I ask him real 
nice.


Either way thanks for the replies.

-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ford

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count




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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when I 
try to download my Email from Gmail.


Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. Account: 
'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: 
'-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, 
Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18


What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail=en_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235=1

Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.

POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable
POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do 
I

go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

[wayne smith]

You guys rock!  Thanks for all of the help and community!  God bless you!

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

I don’t know how many of you out there in internet land will get this message, 
but according to the server count right now including the archive service there 
are exactly 700 members on here.

Note to all new members, everybody who subscribes is automatically placed on 
moderated status. Nothing personal at all, it is done for your protection in 
the event of somebody shall we say less than genuine tries to join up. So your 
posts will take longer to reach the list for a time until we set your account 
to normal posting status. There are 3 of us who run this monster and we are not 
always at our computers, but we get there sooner or later.

Welcome to the 15 or 20 new members we got in the last couple of weeks.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document?

[Mike B.]

Hi Jo,

Sorry, but since I don't have Jart installed someone that uses the program 
will have to help you.  I don't want to be guessing on how or what you 
should do.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document?


Mike,
After reading all of the suggestions from people on this list, I downloaded
and installed Jarte. Since nothing seems to be working for me, do I need to
assign a program to open the document? If so, how do I do that? Thanks.
Jo
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: May 22, 2017 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the old
file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003, but I'm not
sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word installed, you will
also need to have the, Compatibility Pack, installed.  This program allows
newer versions of Office to open, read, & edit older files from older Office
versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now this is a
totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if you have Office
installed, & possibly what operating system you're running depending on your
needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I need to
create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm not familiar
with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have never come across
this situation. I know that many of you out there will know what the heck
I'm talking about and will be able to help me.  Thanks for any suggestions
you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS Word 2013

[Mike B.]

Hi Holger,

These steps are for Word 2010, but are supposed to work with Word 2013 as 
well:
From: Virgil Cook
Press the alt key, which takes you to the ribbon.  Then press n for the
insert tab.  Press n again.  Press u and then b for bottom of page.  You
will hear "plain number one grid".  Tab once.  You will hear "plain number 2
grid.  Press enter, which executes the command and returns you to the
document.  You should then have a number at the bottom center of each page.
Virgil

From: j Bron
And what do we press if we want the number in the upper right corner?
J Bron

From: Virgil Cook
Alt followed by n n u t, and then tab twice.  That's the sequence I most
often use.  You will get the message "Plain number 3 grid".
Virgil

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MS Word 2013




How do I put page number in a document? Before I could press alt and slide 
to insert and go down to add pages. Now in word 2013 I do not see it in 
insert. Help. This for work, using W7, jaws 16.
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

[Tim Ford]

Hi David,

Just curious, who are the other 2 moderators?

Tim Ford

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] subscriber count

I don’t know how many of you out there in internet land will get this 
message, but according to the server count right now including the archive 
service there are exactly 700 members on here.

Note to all new members, everybody who subscribes is automatically placed on 
moderated status. Nothing personal at all, it is done for your protection in 
the event of somebody shall we say less than genuine tries to join up. So 
your posts will take longer to reach the list for a time until we set your 
account to normal posting status. There are 3 of us who run this monster and 
we are not always at our computers, but we get there sooner or later.

Welcome to the 15 or 20 new members we got in the last couple of weeks.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] subscriber count

[David Ferrin]

I don’t know how many of you out there in internet land will get this 
message, but according to the server count right now including the archive 
service there are exactly 700 members on here.

Note to all new members, everybody who subscribes is automatically placed on 
moderated status. Nothing personal at all, it is done for your protection in 
the event of somebody shall we say less than genuine tries to join up. So 
your posts will take longer to reach the list for a time until we set your 
account to normal posting status. There are 3 of us who run this monster and 
we are not always at our computers, but we get there sooner or later.

Welcome to the 15 or 20 new members we got in the last couple of weeks.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

[David Ferrin]

Windows live mail 2009 or 2012.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Hello;
When you say live mail, are you referring to the windows 10 mail app?


  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Live mail seems to have its' own spell checking program, so not to worry.

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Good afternoon all;
I'm starting training with a new client tomorrow,
She's using windows 10 home,
Jaws 18,
Most likely she will be learning to use, windows live mail, or, windows 10
mail,
Does anyone have a suggestion for using a spellcheck program? She doesn't
have office.
So a stand alone spellchecker program will be necessary.
In advance, thanks for the help.


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[JAWS-Users] MS Word 2013

[Holger Fiallo]

How do I put page number in a document? Before I could press alt and slide to 
insert and go down to add pages. Now in word 2013 I do not see it in insert. 
Help. This for work, using W7, jaws 16.
Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
When you say live mail, are you referring to the windows 10 mail app?


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Live mail seems to have its' own spell checking program, so not to worry.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Good afternoon all;
I'm starting training with a new client tomorrow,
She's using windows 10 home,
Jaws 18,
Most likely she will be learning to use, windows live mail, or, windows 10
mail,
Does anyone have a suggestion for using a spellcheck program? She doesn't
have office.
So a stand alone spellchecker program will be necessary.
In advance, thanks for the help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

[David Whitehead]

Ok; so I did a google search, apparently, the windows 10 home app, has its
own spell checker.
To make changes,

If you want to change the grammar settings follow these super easy steps:

1. Use the Windows + I keyboard shortcut to open the Settings app.
2. Navigate to Devices and go to Typing.
3. Under Spelling, switch the Autocorrect misspelled words and Highlight
misspelled words to the Off position.
The default I believe is on.
There's a few check boxes in there.

Hmm, learn something new every day.


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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Live mail seems to have its' own spell checking program, so not to worry.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Good afternoon all;
I'm starting training with a new client tomorrow,
She's using windows 10 home,
Jaws 18,
Most likely she will be learning to use, windows live mail, or, windows 10
mail,
Does anyone have a suggestion for using a spellcheck program? She doesn't
have office.
So a stand alone spellchecker program will be necessary.
In advance, thanks for the help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

[David Ferrin]

Live mail seems to have its' own spell checking program, so not to worry.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

Good afternoon all;
I'm starting training with a new client tomorrow,
She's using windows 10 home,
Jaws 18,
Most likely she will be learning to use, windows live mail, or, windows 10
mail,
Does anyone have a suggestion for using a spellcheck program? She doesn't
have office.
So a stand alone spellchecker program will be necessary.
In advance, thanks for the help.


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[JAWS-Users] jaws and spellcheck

[David Whitehead]

Good afternoon all;
I'm starting training with a new client tomorrow,
She's using windows 10 home,
Jaws 18,
Most likely she will be learning to use, windows live mail, or, windows 10
mail,
Does anyone have a suggestion for using a spellcheck program? She doesn't
have office.
So a stand alone spellchecker program will be necessary.
In advance, thanks for the help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

[Adrian Spratt]

There's a setting in quick settings (JAWS key+v) that might help. Make sure 
"Address list autocomplete announcement" is checked. If that doesn't fix it, 
look down for other possibilities in quick settings. Otherwise, your answer is 
in Outlook itself, and there Google will help.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:13 AM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

I am a new JAWS user. Since I started using JAWS 18 with Windows 7 64-Bit Pro, 
when I begin typing in the “to” field to search for a contact, I am no longer 
given a list of possible contacts from which to choose. I must use the Select 
Contacts button to do this. It is only a minor irritation, but why doesn’t the 
feature work properly.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] help w/website

[Kimsan]

>From what I understand, using the iphone will not accomplish what I need to
get done which is why I'm doing it from the laptop.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help w/website

Kimsan,

Agreed, the latest version of JAWS locates neither links nor edit fields.
Two points of interest:

When I press insert-F6, JAWS tells me, in effect, that it isn't a virtual
document.

Second, when I turn off the virtual cursor, the tab items I find tell me
it's an Apple website. So maybe try with your iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help w/website

Hi,

Can anyone who is using the latest jaws version confirm that this site is
not functioning correctly and if so how can the appropriate information get
submitted

since the website is being a pain?

What I mean by appropriate information is that the website 

https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/

is where you could upload podcast info but the edit boxes and links on this
site seem that I can't get to them.

I've used NVDA and jaws and same results.

I've tried with both IE and firefox.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@icloud.com

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.

[Flor Lynch]

There was, is (or should be?) a free Microsoft Wordviewer somewhere that 
would read the .doc file, which you cannot use to edit because it only reads 
the document. Perhaps using a search of Microsoft Wordviewer will yield 
results. It's a free program.


-Original Message- 
From: Audiobookfan

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document? Try WordPad.


Thanks, Dave, but I already know this. However, I don't have any version
of Word and I don't intend to purchase it just to be able to read files
from people who refuse to publish documents in more universally
accessible formats.

Jeff


On 5/23/2017 7:49 PM, Dave ... wrote:

Jeff,

MS-Word 2007 or later will read a .docx file.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "Audiobookfan" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 19:32
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.


Adrian, actually, .doc was not in the list, but .docx was in the list,
and it's a .docx file I'm trying to read.

Wordpad does open the file, but it's got these backslashes at the
beginning of some lines. My assumption is that those are some form of
formatting code that isn't being interpreted properly by Wordpad. My
concern is that if Wordpad isn't interpreting these codes properly, what
else might it not be doing properly? What else might I encounter in
other .docx files? I suppose it's possible that these are intentional
and they appear the same in the file opened in Word, but it sure doesn't
seem likely.

Actually, Judy's suggestion to copy the content to Notepad worked. The
backslashes didn't transfer over. I suppose this is an acceptable
work-around, at least until it doesn't work.

Jeff

On 5/23/2017 12:44 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Jeff,
When you list other file types, are you saying .doc was not a listed
extension?
Or are you saying there are too many backslashes in the opened document?
The way to eliminate them is to search for backslash and replace either
with nothing or a space.
I'm not clear what you mean when you say these steps don't work for you.

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Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

Those steps did not work for me. For one thing, the "wordpad" file type
included rtf, docx, txt, etc. Again, when I opened the file, there were
the backslash characters at the beginning of several of the lines.

Is it possible that this file can only be opened by Word? Is there no way
to access these files without obtaining the Word program?

Jeff


On 5/23/2017 1:01 AM, Tim Ford wrote:

That exact same thing happened to me.  The solution proved to be the
following steps.

Open WordPad, and press control + o to open the file directory system.
Tab to the file type combo box, then arrow up or down to the format
you want to open, e.g. a .doc or .docx Word document.  Press enter on
the appropriate line.

Next, press shift + tab to get to the list of folders/files that are
in your computer as the default folder for document files.

Arrow to the file you want, press enter.

The results should now be more in line with the original .doc or .docx
file.

Important tip!  Be sure to check that file type combo box every time
you open WordPad.  The default setting, for example, is only for
WordPad documents.  You need to arrow down to the very end of the list
(or use the end key), and there is the all-files filter, the only one
that will show you all the files and folders on your computer.

Best of luck, and hope the above helps.

Tim Ford


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary edition. Wordpad didn't work very
well for me. It didn't seem to translate everything properly. By that,
I mean that there were some characters/symbols that were left in the
document.
Specifically in the example I tried, there was a backslash (\)
character at the beginning of some lines. Also, I'm not sure how the
document might have looked in Word, but the formatting seemed unlikely.
All the text was strung together with no logical line breaks or blank
lines.

Perhaps I just don't know how to use Wordpad, so if this is the case,
some instructions on how to configure Wordpad would be appreciated.
Otherwise, are there any other suggestions for free programs to access
Word documents? I'm not looking to create or even edit Word 

Re: [JAWS-Users] new user, jaws repair

[Adrian Spratt]

No, a JAWS repair does not change your settings. Here are the instructions I 
received from FS/VFO in February.

First, make sure you have the .exe file on your system for the JAWS build 
you're running. You can download it from the FS/VFO website.
Unlike before, it doesn't seem to matter where you keep it on your system.
Close all running apps.
Highlight the JAWS .exe file.
Press shift-F10.
Arrow up to "Copy as path." Press enter.
Open the run dialog with Windows key-r.
Press control-v, then spacebar, then / (the forward slash key), then the word 
"type", spacebar, and then the word "repair."
Let me try that command line a different way. After pressing control-v followed 
by the spacebar, continue with /type repair
Then press enter.

Note. The JAWS repair can take maybe twenty minutes to run, so patience is 
required. Listen for any verbalizations that might require some action, 
although the only thing you'll probably need to do is reboot when the repair is 
done.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new user,jaws repair

how do you do a jaws repair?
and would it erase the settings i changed?
i can not turn on speech for the insert key since i messed with the jaws key 
frome the insert to the scroll lock and back again. it is not muted in the 
keyboard labeler.


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[JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am a new JAWS user. Since I started using JAWS 18 with Windows 7 64-Bit Pro, 
when I begin typing in the “to” field to search for a contact, I am no longer 
given a list of possible contacts from which to choose. I must use the Select 
Contacts button to do this. It is only a minor irritation, but why doesn’t the 
feature work properly.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] help w/website

[Adrian Spratt]

Kimsan,

Agreed, the latest version of JAWS locates neither links nor edit fields. Two 
points of interest:

When I press insert-F6, JAWS tells me, in effect, that it isn't a virtual 
document.

Second, when I turn off the virtual cursor, the tab items I find tell me it's 
an Apple website. So maybe try with your iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help w/website

Hi,

Can anyone who is using the latest jaws version confirm that this site is not 
functioning correctly and if so how can the appropriate information get 
submitted

since the website is being a pain?

What I mean by appropriate information is that the website 

https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/

is where you could upload podcast info but the edit boxes and links on this 
site seem that I can't get to them.

I've used NVDA and jaws and same results.

I've tried with both IE and firefox.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@icloud.com

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.

[Rose]

Try any version of MS Word, it reads doc documents.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

Hi Jeff,

Please feel free to contact me off-list and we can go through this together
over the phone.  My email address is ttf...@gmail.com.

Tim Ford

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

Those steps did not work for me. For one thing, the "wordpad" file type
included rtf, docx, txt, etc. Again, when I opened the file, there were the
backslash characters at the beginning of several of the lines.

Is it possible that this file can only be opened by Word? Is there no way to
access these files without obtaining the Word program?

Jeff


On 5/23/2017 1:01 AM, Tim Ford wrote:
> That exact same thing happened to me.  The solution proved to be the 
> following steps.
> 
> Open WordPad, and press control + o to open the file directory system.
Tab
> to the file type combo box, then arrow up or down to the format you 
> want
to
> open, e.g. a .doc or .docx Word document.  Press enter on the 
> appropriate line.
> 
> Next, press shift + tab to get to the list of folders/files that are 
> in
your
> computer as the default folder for document files.
> 
> Arrow to the file you want, press enter.
> 
> The results should now be more in line with the original .doc or .docx
file.
> 
> Important tip!  Be sure to check that file type combo box every time 
> you open WordPad.  The default setting, for example, is only for 
> WordPad documents.  You need to arrow down to the very end of the list 
> (or use the end key), and there is the all-files filter, the only one 
> that will show
you
> all the files and folders on your computer.
> 
> Best of luck, and hope the above helps.
> 
> Tim Ford
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Audiobookfan
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:11 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
> document? Try WordPad.
> 
> I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary edition. Wordpad didn't work very 
> well for me. It didn't seem to translate everything properly. By that, 
> I mean that there were some characters/symbols that were left in the
document.
> Specifically in the example I tried, there was a backslash (\) 
> character
at
> the beginning of some lines. Also, I'm not sure how the document might
have
> looked in Word, but the formatting seemed unlikely.
> All the text was strung together with no logical line breaks or blank
lines.
> 
> Perhaps I just don't know how to use Wordpad, so if this is the case, 
> some instructions on how to configure Wordpad would be appreciated.
> Otherwise, are there any other suggestions for free programs to access
Word
> documents? I'm not looking to create or even edit Word documents, it's
just
> that occasionally I'll be given a Word doc that I want to read and
sometimes
> getting it in another format is not an option.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/22/2017 10:43 PM, Tim Ford wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Another option might be WordPad.  At least with Windows 10, WordPad 
>> will open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back 
>> in the original doc or docx format.  Just do the usual save command, 
>> control s is the shortcut, and follow the prompts to either 
>> over-right the original file, or save it under a different name.  If 
>> you over-right the original file, you will lose some functions that 
>> are in the full version of Word, but you will not lose text or even 
>> most of the
> format, fonts, etc.
>>
>> I do not know how much of that works in Windows 7 WordPad,  but I 
>> know for sure it does with Windows 10; I just tried it.
>>
>> Tim Ford
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:11 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
>> document?
>>
>> Jarte will open .DOC files, and also .DOCX files if you have the 
>> compatibility pack from Microsoft.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mike B." 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
>> document?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jo,
>>>
>>> You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is 
>>> the old file extension 

[JAWS-Users] help w/website

[Kimsan]

Hi,

Can anyone who is using the latest jaws version confirm that this site is
not functioning correctly and if so how can the appropriate information get
submitted

since the website is being a pain?

What I mean by appropriate information is that the website 

https://podcastsconnect.apple.com/

is where you could upload podcast info but the edit boxes and links on this
site seem that I can't get to them.

I've used NVDA and jaws and same results.

I've tried with both IE and firefox.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@icloud.com

 

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[JAWS-Users] new user,jaws repair

[net bat66]

how do you do a jaws repair?
and would it erase the settings i changed?
i can not turn on speech for the insert key since i messed with the jaws key 
frome the insert to the scroll lock and back again. it is not muted in the 
keyboard labeler.



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[JAWS-Users] insert key stopped speaking

[net bat66]

   hi, sorry this is so long.
there is a option to use the desktop keyboard layout with the scroll lock key 
as the jaws key.
the problem is i didn't like it and set it back to the insert for the jaws key 
in the default settings menu. the insert key still works as the jaws key but 
the insert key no longer talks.

i did this in the default settings. the key is set to speak. it is not muted.
with windows live mail loaded the settings for this say it is still set to the 
scroll lock and says it can only be changed in the default settings and press 
shift control d to switch to the default settings. but in the default it still 
says it is useing the insert key.

so now what.
even with wlm the insert key is still the jaws key. not the scroll lock.
this is where i stand.
the default settings say it is useing the insert key, the wlm script? if this 
is where it is comeing from says it is useing the scroll lock key. it isn't.

i can't change it so both are useing the same key.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document?

[Tim Ford]

You may also find, as I did, that you need to change the file type combo box
to the "all files" option, the bottom of the 5 choices.  Otherwise, all you
would find in your file list would be the Jarte default file format, .rtf.  

Specifically, with Jarte running, press control + o to open the file
directory dialog.  This opens a typical and very familiar File Explorer
dialog.  Tab once to the file type combo.  The 5 listed options are, in
order, as follows:

Rich Text Format (*.rtf) 
Word Documents (*.doc) 
Word 2007 Documents (*.docx) 
Plain Text (*.txt) 
All files (*.*)

[Note that to capture this list, I used the JAWS speech history option, JAWS
key + space bar, then h.  The resulting window has all this in plain text
that I just copied and pasted]

On that list, if you want to see just .doc, .docx, or .txt files only, arrow
to the format you want and press enter.  If you want to see all files in the
folder, arrow to the bottom and press enter on "all files".

Now you can tab, or shift tab twice, to the list of files, and there they
are!

I have not figured out a way to have Jarte maintain the all-files setting,
so remember to first set the file type box whenever you want to use the
Jarte file directory.

The hint below about first finding a file and then doing the "open with
Jarte" option also works.

Tim Ford

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 7:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Highlight the.doc file  you wish to open and hit Enter.  You should be
presented with a dialog that prompts you to choose a program to open the
file.  There should be a list box that includes Jarte on the list of
programs.  Select Jarte and hit Okay, and Jarte should open the .doc file
for you.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Jo Luland
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Mike,
After reading all of the suggestions from people on this list, I downloaded
and installed Jarte. Since nothing seems to be working for me, do I need to
assign a program to open the document? If so, how do I do that? Thanks.
Jo
-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: May 22, 2017 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the old
file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003, but I'm not
sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word installed, you will
also need to have the, Compatibility Pack, installed.  This program allows
newer versions of Office to open, read, & edit older files from older Office
versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now this is a
totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if you have Office
installed, & possibly what operating system you're running depending on your
needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Jo Luland
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I need to
create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm not familiar
with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have never come across
this situation. I know that many of you out there will know what the heck
I'm talking about and will be able to help me.  Thanks for any suggestions
you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Defender

[Maria Campbell]

The problem is that the default scan is always a quick scan, and I 
believe that from time to time a full scan should be conducted. This is 
done by going to the virus and protection tab, then going to advanced 
scan, and there is the choice to do a full scan.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/24/2017 10:37 AM, Jim Flusche wrote:

Yes, the windows defender security center in the Creators update, is a lot more 
complex. But honestly, it takes care of itself very well. Just run it from time 
to time, if you miss the sound notification, press Windows key+A, for the 
action center and down arrow and hear the results of the scan.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Defender

In the Anniversary version Defender is pretty much accessible. In the Creator's 
version, it's a lot more complex.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/23/2017 5:41 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me exactly how accessible Windows Defender is? I 
am using JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Many thanks in advance.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading internet articles properly

[Fred C. Adams]

Yes, it did the job for me as I was baffeled completely.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading internet articles properly

Fred, thanks for posting the solution. I don't recall your previous message,
so I wonder if it actually posted. In any event, a useful reminder that JAWS
repairs sometimes do the job.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Fred C. Adams
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading internet articles properly

I posted an email message yesterday asking for help as jaws was not properly
reading articles on the internet.  Jaws would read the title or headlines
but would not read the text body.  I believe I have found the solution by
running the jaws repair on jaws 18 as jaws now seems to be reading properly.

Thanks for reading,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
THE HOUR IS LATE AND
THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Cannot run latest Jaws update file

[Jim Flusche]

The insert+Tab, repeats the control and its current setting in the settings 
area of W-10 with Jaws. Think of it as a Jaws repeat keystroke for the 
highlighted item on the screen. In the settings area you open a combo box with 
ALT+Down arrow, use the arrow key to find a different choice, press Enter to 
select the new choice and close the combo box.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kenny
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cannot run latest Jaws update file

Well I didn't hit [Alt]+[Down Arrow]. That was why it didn't read the 
selections in the listbox? So tell me what the heck is the [Insert]+[Tab] 
shortcut meant to do? I use it all the time to read to me a listbox selection. 
Doesn't work in this settings panel for some reason.

At 09:27 AM 5/23/2017, you wrote:
>Jaws works fine in the combo box, in the settings area of the Creators 
>update, read below.
>Apps & Features.
>1. Press the Windows key+I, For the Settings area search edit box, Tab 
>one time.
>2. Press the Right arrow key to Apps, press the Spacebar, Tab one time.
>3. You land on Apps & Features, this Tab is already highlighted for 
>you, begin by Tabbing one time.
>4. You will hear, Choose where you can get apps from. Installing only 
>apps from the Store helps protect your PC and keep it running smoothly. 
>Combo box Allow apps from anywhere.
>If your computer does not say this, press ALT+Down arrow, Highlight, 
>Allow apps from anywhere, press enter to change and close the Combo-box.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny
>Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:20 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Cannot run latest Jaws update file
>
>You have to enable "Install Apps from Anywhere."
>
>Press [Windows key]+[i]. Hit the [Tab] key once. Now [Right Arrow] 
>until you hear "Apps" then hit [Enter]. You're now in the "Apps and 
>Features" treeview option, so simply [Tab] twice to "Choose where you 
>can get apps from" and use the arrow keys to select "Install Apps from 
>Anywhere."
>
>Now JAWS doesn't seem to read the options in this listbox at all, so 
>you will need to [Arrow down or up] one time to change options, [Tab] 
>once and then [Shift]+[Tab] once to hear your selection. The JAWS 
>[Insert]+[Tab] key for reading the listbox selection once changed 
>doesn't work for me.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>At 08:33 PM 5/22/2017, you wrote:
> >I downloaded the latest Jaws 18 update file from FS.  When I tried to 
> >open it I got a pop up security message from Windows Defender saying 
> >the file was from an unknown origin and I could not open or run the 
> >update file.  I clicked on more info and then clicked on run anyway 
> >but I still could not run the file.  I just updated to windows 10 
> >Creator a few days ago.  Any suggestions/ideas?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Greg Washington
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Defender

[Jim Flusche]

Yes, the windows defender security center in the Creators update, is a lot more 
complex. But honestly, it takes care of itself very well. Just run it from time 
to time, if you miss the sound notification, press Windows key+A, for the 
action center and down arrow and hear the results of the scan.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Defender

In the Anniversary version Defender is pretty much accessible. In the Creator's 
version, it's a lot more complex.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/23/2017 5:41 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
> Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me exactly how accessible Windows Defender is? 
> I am using JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Many thanks in advance.
> Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document?

[Gerald Levy]

Highlight the.doc file  you wish to open and hit Enter.  You should be 
presented with a dialog that prompts you to choose a program to open the 
file.  There should be a list box that includes Jarte on the list of 
programs.  Select Jarte and hit Okay, and Jarte should open the .doc file 
for you.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Jo Luland

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document?


Mike,
After reading all of the suggestions from people on this list, I downloaded
and installed Jarte. Since nothing seems to be working for me, do I need to
assign a program to open the document? If so, how do I do that? Thanks.
Jo
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: May 22, 2017 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the old
file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003, but I'm not
sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word installed, you will
also need to have the, Compatibility Pack, installed.  This program allows
newer versions of Office to open, read, & edit older files from older Office
versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now this is a
totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if you have Office
installed, & possibly what operating system you're running depending on your
needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I need to
create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm not familiar
with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have never come across
this situation. I know that many of you out there will know what the heck
I'm talking about and will be able to help me.  Thanks for any suggestions
you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document?

[Andrew James Bontrager]

You can also open the .doc file in Word Pad, if it isn't too heavy on layout.
Just right click it and choose the Word Pad program in the Open With . . . 
dialog.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document?

[Jo Luland]

Mike,
After reading all of the suggestions from people on this list, I downloaded 
and installed Jarte. Since nothing seems to be working for me, do I need to 
assign a program to open the document? If so, how do I do that? Thanks.

Jo
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: May 22, 2017 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document?


Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the old
file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003, but I'm not
sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word installed, you will
also need to have the, Compatibility Pack, installed.  This program allows
newer versions of Office to open, read, & edit older files from older Office
versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now this is a
totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if you have Office
installed, & possibly what operating system you're running depending on your
needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I need to
create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm not familiar
with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have never come across
this situation. I know that many of you out there will know what the heck
I'm talking about and will be able to help me.  Thanks for any suggestions
you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading internet articles properly

[Adrian Spratt]

Fred, thanks for posting the solution. I don't recall your previous message, so 
I wonder if it actually posted. In any event, a useful reminder that JAWS 
repairs sometimes do the job.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fred C. Adams
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading internet articles properly

I posted an email message yesterday asking for help as jaws was not properly 
reading articles on the internet.  Jaws would read the title or headlines but 
would not read the text body.  I believe I have found the solution by running 
the jaws repair on jaws 18 as jaws now seems to be reading properly.

Thanks for reading,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
THE HOUR IS LATE AND
THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT



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[JAWS-Users] Jaws not reading internet articles properly

[Fred C. Adams]

I posted an email message yesterday asking for help as jaws was not properly
reading articles on the internet.  Jaws would read the title or headlines
but would not read the text body.  I believe I have found the solution by
running the jaws repair on jaws 18 as jaws now seems to be reading properly.

Thanks for reading,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC
THE HOUR IS LATE AND
THE NIGHT IS FAR SPENT



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Where Did Landmarks Go?

[Adrian Spratt]

Dave,

So, landmarks and regions are different, despite something I read on the FS 
website before posting my previous message. I'm sure you've tested the 
semicolon on a webpage. I just did, and JAWS verbalized: "No mouse-clickable 
elements." Like you, I seem to remember the semicolon had a navigation function 
different from this one.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Where Did Landmarks Go?

Adrian,

Okay, thanks. I thought in some past versions of JAWS we could also jump to 
landmarks using the semicolon or something else. I'm working on a Beta web site 
where the developers are using a landmark rather than a region for parts, and 
they asked. I recommended they stick with regions or even use headers to help 
distinguish areas of the site.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 20:52
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Where Did Landmarks Go?


Hi, Dave.

AI believe a landmark is the same as a region. The shortcut for "region" is 
"r." for those who aren't familiar with the "r" navigation command, it's 
extremely useful. For example, press "r" until you hit "main region" or 
something similar, and you skip over a lot of boilerplate.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Where Did Landmarks Go?

Just wondering...Didn't there use to be a quick key command to jump from one 
web land mark to another? Was that removed some time in the past?

Dave
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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.

[Mike B.]

Hi Again Jeff,

The most importan thing I forgot to mention is that these Office viewing 
programs are free!
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Mike B.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document? Try WordPad.


Hi Jeff,

Office has viewing programs that allow you to read Excel, Word, & Power
Point files, but that's all you can do is read them.  You can get them here:

www.microsoft.com/downloads

This what they're called:
ExcelViewer
PowerPointViewer
wordview_en-us

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Audiobookfan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.


Thanks, Dave, but I already know this. However, I don't have any version
of Word and I don't intend to purchase it just to be able to read files
from people who refuse to publish documents in more universally
accessible formats.

Jeff


On 5/23/2017 7:49 PM, Dave ... wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> MS-Word 2007 or later will read a .docx file.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Audiobookfan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 19:32
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
> document? Try WordPad.
>
>
> Adrian, actually, .doc was not in the list, but .docx was in the list,
> and it's a .docx file I'm trying to read.
>
> Wordpad does open the file, but it's got these backslashes at the
> beginning of some lines. My assumption is that those are some form of
> formatting code that isn't being interpreted properly by Wordpad. My
> concern is that if Wordpad isn't interpreting these codes properly, what
> else might it not be doing properly? What else might I encounter in
> other .docx files? I suppose it's possible that these are intentional
> and they appear the same in the file opened in Word, but it sure doesn't
> seem likely.
>
> Actually, Judy's suggestion to copy the content to Notepad worked. The
> backslashes didn't transfer over. I suppose this is an acceptable
> work-around, at least until it doesn't work.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 5/23/2017 12:44 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
>> Jeff,
>> When you list other file types, are you saying .doc was not a listed
>> extension?
>> Or are you saying there are too many backslashes in the opened document?
>> The way to eliminate them is to search for backslash and replace either
>> with nothing or a space.
>> I'm not clear what you mean when you say these steps don't work for you.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Audiobookfan
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:08 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
>> document? Try WordPad.
>>
>> Those steps did not work for me. For one thing, the "wordpad" file type
>> included rtf, docx, txt, etc. Again, when I opened the file, there were
>> the backslash characters at the beginning of several of the lines.
>>
>> Is it possible that this file can only be opened by Word? Is there no way
>> to access these files without obtaining the Word program?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On 5/23/2017 1:01 AM, Tim Ford wrote:
>>> That exact same thing happened to me.  The solution proved to be the
>>> following steps.
>>>
>>> Open WordPad, and press control + o to open the file directory system.
>>> Tab to the file type combo box, then arrow up or down to the format
>>> you want to open, e.g. a .doc or .docx Word document.  Press enter on
>>> the appropriate line.
>>>
>>> Next, press shift + tab to get to the list of folders/files that are
>>> in your computer as the default folder for document files.
>>>
>>> Arrow to the file you want, press enter.
>>>
>>> The results should now be more in line with the original .doc or .docx
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Important tip!  Be sure to check that file type combo box every time
>>> you open WordPad.  The default setting, for example, is only for
>>> WordPad documents.  You need to arrow down to the very end of the list
>>> (or use the end key), and there is the all-files filter, the only one
>>> that will show you all the files and folders on your computer.
>>>
>>> Best of luck, and hope the above helps.
>>>
>>> Tim Ford
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Audiobookfan
>>> Sent: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,

When using Jart you need to be aware that it does not allow you to 
navigate thru tables like you can in word. Tables will not be layed out 
like they are in word. This is due to the backend engine that Jart uses 
for its text. It uses the same engine as wordpad. In Jart you will not 
be able to use control plus alt plus the arrow keys to navigate tables. 
If you do not need to worry about this then yes Jart is a good 
alternative word processor to use.



Regards,

Greg Wocher


On 5/24/2017 2:38 AM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I agree, and that's why I have Jarte.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Audiobookfan" 

[JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Tim Ford]

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system. 

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.  

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


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I agree, and that's why I have Jarte.

Andy

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