Re: [JAWS-Users] Stopping Firefox auto updates

[wayne smith]

For those who missed this I followed Kevin's instructions on both of my
machines and it seemed to have worked. On my backup machine I just brought
up Firefox and I got the usual notice, Do you want to let this program make
changes to your computer?  I clicked, No, and the regular Firefox came up.
I then followed Kevin's simple steps and it looks like it did the job.

Wayne

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Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 8:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Stopping Firefox auto updates

by pressing the alt key arrow to the tools menu arrow down to options press
enter when jaws announces find in options type updates press enter press tab
key  jaws announces updates horizontal link arrow down to  never check for
updates not recommended make sure the radio button is selected


-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 11:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Stopping Firefox auto updates 

Hello all- I have been reading the posts on the new Firefox version that
will be like Edge and not accessible.  I just opened my Firefox browser and
it updated to the current version automatically.  Is there a place where I
can stop automatic updates so I don't get updated out of business?



Thanks in advance for any help.



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Mike B.]

Hi Mary,

Give this Openbook list a try:

openbook+subscr...@groups.io

You can try this 1 as well, but I'm not sure if it's still active:

openbook-users-subscr...@yahoogroups.com


Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR


Thanks, Rick. I’m not  familiar  with that tech talk list. Where is it 
hosted? I would look it up if I had a clue where to start.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Rick Justice  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Mary,
> I am not sure if there are any active lists, I subscribed to one some time
> ago,
> and never did see any traffic.
> If you are on the tech talk list, you could post your question there.
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> "Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
> "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>
>
> Is there a users list for that product?
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin  wrote:
>>
>> Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a
>> system so take my word for it.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: mary otten
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>>
>> Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually
>> looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a
>> K1000 user for a very, very very long time.  But it looks like OB
>> doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show
>> stopper for sure for me.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Rebecca Lineberger
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM
>> To: jaws user's list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>>
>> There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned
>> results.
>> This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
>> Smile.
>>
>> I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010.
>>
>> I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
>> PDF and JPG.
>>
>> Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the
>>
>> "alert, empty document,"
>>
>> message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar,
>> o,
>> then d,
>>
>> with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context
>> menu
>> key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to
>>
>> Recognize with JAWS.
>>
>> I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said
>>
>> Started.
>>
>> The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy
>> it
>> with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
>> control a, to select all, and control c to copy.
>>
>> I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as
>> usual.
>> I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
>> notepad would be no different.
>>
>> As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, 
>> scanned
>> in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.
>>
>> All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. 
>> Again,
>> I
>> used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to
>>
>> Recognize with JAWS.
>>
>> I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text
>> waiting
>> to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not
>> happy,
>> smile, and kept giving me information about
>>
>> non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with
>> my
>> table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might 
>> be
>> a
>> better option in this case.
>>
>> When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it
>> had
>> when scanned by JAWS.
>>
>> At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
>> information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
>> longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well.
>>
>> For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.
>>
>> Rebecca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.
>>
>>
>>
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[JAWS-Users] Firefox 57/quantum

[JM Casey]

Hey everyone.

I chose to defer the update for as long as possible, but this evening when I 
loaded up Firefox, it snapped up and installed the 57 update right away. 
Whenever I load it with JAWS running, now, I get the message "in-tab browsing 
is disabled due to incompatibility with your accessibility software. Please 
update your screen-reader or switch to Firefox ESR version". I was sort of 
expecting something like this, but I also noted that many people on the NVDA 
list were using Firefox 57 successfully with that screen-reader. Although I was 
unsuccessful in reading a single webpage with JAWS, I too note that FF 57 seems 
to work basically fine with NVDA, though it is definitely a bit slower. Now, 
I'm running JAWS 18, and am not upgrading to JAWS 2018 anytime soon as it seems 
my license is only good for JAWS 18. I'm getting used to NVDA anyway and if 
things continue as they are, I may very well just end up using that product for 
most things. But I did wonder if anyone was successfully using Firefox 57 with 
JAWS 2018? 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[George Martinez Sr]

Adrian, 
I had not thought that it was referring to 2018, duh.
I too have stayed with JAWS 18 after upgrading to 2018 due to serious
Outlook and QuickBooks issues.
The next time I have 2018 fired up I will try Rebecca's technique.
George

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 12:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

George, in case there's any confusion, JAWS 19 is what FS eventually
released as JAWS 2018. Amusing that their 2018 OCR message betrays the
original intent to continue with the previous version numbering sequence. As
I'm sure you know, 2018 introduces an expanded version of Convenient OCR. I
have yet to try it because 2018 gives me new Outlook and IE11 problems, but
it looks as though Rebecca gives a nice introduction.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

Rebecca,
I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF
file.  When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message:
"Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running"
Seems that method does not work for all...  Would be nice if it did.
George


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results.
This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
Smile.  

I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. 

I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
PDF and JPG.

Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the 

"alert, empty document,"

message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o,
then d, 

with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu
key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to 

Recognize with JAWS.

I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said

Started.

The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy it
with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
control a, to select all, and control c to copy.

I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual.
I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
notepad would be no different.

As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.

All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, I
used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to 

Recognize with JAWS.  

I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting
to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy,
smile, and kept giving me information about 

non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with my
table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a
better option in this case.

When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had
when scanned by JAWS. 

At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. 

For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Rick Justice]

Hi Mary,
Below is the subscribe address:

techtalk+subscr...@groups.io

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR


Thanks, Rick. I’m not  familiar  with that tech talk list. Where is it 
hosted? I would look it up if I had a clue where to start.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Rick Justice  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Mary,
> I am not sure if there are any active lists, I subscribed to one some time
> ago,
> and never did see any traffic.
> If you are on the tech talk list, you could post your question there.
>
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
>
> "Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
> "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>
>
> Is there a users list for that product?
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin  wrote:
>>
>> Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a
>> system so take my word for it.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: mary otten
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>>
>> Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually
>> looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a
>> K1000 user for a very, very very long time.  But it looks like OB
>> doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show
>> stopper for sure for me.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Rebecca Lineberger
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM
>> To: jaws user's list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>>
>> There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned
>> results.
>> This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
>> Smile.
>>
>> I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010.
>>
>> I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
>> PDF and JPG.
>>
>> Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the
>>
>> "alert, empty document,"
>>
>> message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar,
>> o,
>> then d,
>>
>> with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context
>> menu
>> key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to
>>
>> Recognize with JAWS.
>>
>> I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said
>>
>> Started.
>>
>> The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy
>> it
>> with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
>> control a, to select all, and control c to copy.
>>
>> I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as
>> usual.
>> I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
>> notepad would be no different.
>>
>> As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, 
>> scanned
>> in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.
>>
>> All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. 
>> Again,
>> I
>> used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to
>>
>> Recognize with JAWS.
>>
>> I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text
>> waiting
>> to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not
>> happy,
>> smile, and kept giving me information about
>>
>> non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with
>> my
>> table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might 
>> be
>> a
>> better option in this case.
>>
>> When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it
>> had
>> when scanned by JAWS.
>>
>> At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
>> information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
>> longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well.
>>
>> For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.
>>
>> Rebecca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE

[Adrian Spratt]

Hi Dave,

Actually, you can up and down arrow through IE11's autocomplete suggestions. 
However, unlike the case with Outlook, you can't delete anything there. 

I figured the answer lay in the files list you access via 
tools/options/general, but the test I tried didn't help. Staples shows up in my 
IE autocomplete list, which I'd very much like to eliminate, but I can't find a 
single Staples file in the temporary files list. 

I'm not sure there is a good answer to your question. As you realize, you can 
delete everything, in which case your autocomplete list will be empty, but 
apparently not individual autocomplete addresses. Still, you may find a hint at 
a webpage I found. You're not going to be one of those listers who bites my 
head off for giving you a link to do your own exploring, right!! So here it is: 
https://www.lifewire.com/manage-browsing-history-and-private-data-in-ie11-4103676


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE

Mike,

Unfortunately the place I'm having problems is in Internet Explorer, in the 
address field. Not sure one can up/down arrow through suggestions.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:53
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE


Hi Dave,

See if this will help:
From: David Ferrin
AutoComplete

Have you ever started typing name or email address into Outlook's To field
only to have the feature automatically fill in the wrong address? It's very
easy to clean out infrequently used names in Outlook's AutoComplete. Start
typing an email address. When Outlook displays address options, use the Up
and Down arrow keys to highlight the name/address you want to remove, and
then press DELETE. Press the Delete key to remove the name.

David Ferrin

Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave...Oregonian
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 8:11 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE


Windows 7 32-bit
IE 11.0

I have an entry that always pops up first, and I'd like to purge it from the
list of Auto Complete entries. These are apparently not in the registry. Any
clues how to delete just one, rather than purging the entire history or
temporary files?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Rebecca Lineberger]

George,
As I said, I'm using JAWS version 2018.  I loaded version 18, and I don't
have
Recognize with JAWS
Displayed in the context menu for the PDF file.  I'm assuming that this way
of using OCR is not available with older versions of JAWS.  I checked, and
the layered keystrokes insert-spacebar, o then d work once you've opened the
file with Adobe and gotten the 
Alert, empty document message.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

Rebecca,
I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF
file.  When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message:
"Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running"
Seems that method does not work for all...  Would be nice if it did.
George


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results.
This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
Smile.  

I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. 

I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
PDF and JPG.

Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the 

"alert, empty document,"

message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o,
then d, 

with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu
key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to 

Recognize with JAWS.

I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said

Started.

The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy it
with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
control a, to select all, and control c to copy.

I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual.
I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
notepad would be no different.

As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.

All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, I
used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to 

Recognize with JAWS.  

I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting
to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy,
smile, and kept giving me information about 

non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with my
table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a
better option in this case.

When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had
when scanned by JAWS. 

At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. 

For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] wanting to read text from fb images, it is possible?

[JM Casey]

Well, I use JAWS 18, and have tried this a few times. I was told never to 
expect great  results from Convenient OCR, and indeed, I've never really got 
any. But sometimes it's enough to tell roughly what people are talking about 
when they post an image with text in it. You'll just have to experiment and 
see. I know the OCR is supposed to be improved in JAWS 2018, so you should get 
the best possible results, at any rate, if you try it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lev
Sent: November 18, 2017 2:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] wanting to read text from fb images, it is possible?

hi,

using latest jaws 2018.


there anyway to read text from images on facebook using the jaws o c r?

-- thanks for any info.
  Leo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Adrian Spratt]

George, in case there's any confusion, JAWS 19 is what FS eventually released 
as JAWS 2018. Amusing that their 2018 OCR message betrays the original intent 
to continue with the previous version numbering sequence. As I'm sure you know, 
2018 introduces an expanded version of Convenient OCR. I have yet to try it 
because 2018 gives me new Outlook and IE11 problems, but it looks as though 
Rebecca gives a nice introduction.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

Rebecca,
I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF 
file.  When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message:
"Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running"
Seems that method does not work for all...  Would be nice if it did.
George


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting 
different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results.
This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
Smile.  

I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. 

I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
PDF and JPG.

Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the 

"alert, empty document,"

message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, 
then d, 

with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu 
key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to 

Recognize with JAWS.

I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said

Started.

The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy it 
with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control 
a, to select all, and control c to copy.

I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual.
I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad 
would be no different.

As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in 
Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.

All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, I 
used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to 

Recognize with JAWS.  

I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to 
be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, 
and kept giving me information about 

non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with my 
table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a 
better option in this case.

When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had 
when scanned by JAWS. 

At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the 
information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no longer 
cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. 

For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE

[Dave...Oregonian]

Mike,

Unfortunately the place I'm having problems is in Internet Explorer, in the 
address field. Not sure one can up/down arrow through suggestions.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:53
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE


Hi Dave,

See if this will help:
From: David Ferrin
AutoComplete

Have you ever started typing name or email address into Outlook's To field
only to have the feature automatically fill in the wrong address? It's very
easy to clean out infrequently used names in Outlook's AutoComplete. Start
typing an email address. When Outlook displays address options, use the Up
and Down arrow keys to highlight the name/address you want to remove, and
then press DELETE. Press the Delete key to remove the name.

David Ferrin

Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave...Oregonian
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 8:11 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE


Windows 7 32-bit
IE 11.0

I have an entry that always pops up first, and I'd like to purge it from the
list of Auto Complete entries. These are apparently not in the registry. Any
clues how to delete just one, rather than purging the entire history or
temporary files?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Rick. I’m not  familiar  with that tech talk list. Where is it hosted? 
I would look it up if I had a clue where to start.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Rick Justice  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> I am not sure if there are any active lists, I subscribed to one some time 
> ago,
> and never did see any traffic.
> If you are on the tech talk list, you could post your question there.
> 
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
> 
> "Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
> "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
> 
> 
> Is there a users list for that product?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin  wrote:
>> 
>> Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a 
>> system so take my word for it.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: mary otten
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>> 
>> Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually 
>> looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a 
>> K1000 user for a very, very very long time.  But it looks like OB 
>> doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show 
>> stopper for sure for me.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Rebecca Lineberger
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM
>> To: jaws user's list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>> 
>> There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned 
>> results.
>> This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
>> Smile.
>> 
>> I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010.
>> 
>> I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
>> PDF and JPG.
>> 
>> Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the
>> 
>> "alert, empty document,"
>> 
>> message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, 
>> o,
>> then d,
>> 
>> with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context 
>> menu
>> key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to
>> 
>> Recognize with JAWS.
>> 
>> I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said
>> 
>> Started.
>> 
>> The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy 
>> it
>> with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
>> control a, to select all, and control c to copy.
>> 
>> I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as 
>> usual.
>> I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
>> notepad would be no different.
>> 
>> As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
>> in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.
>> 
>> All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, 
>> I
>> used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to
>> 
>> Recognize with JAWS.
>> 
>> I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text 
>> waiting
>> to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not 
>> happy,
>> smile, and kept giving me information about
>> 
>> non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with 
>> my
>> table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be 
>> a
>> better option in this case.
>> 
>> When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it 
>> had
>> when scanned by JAWS.
>> 
>> At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
>> information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
>> longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well.
>> 
>> For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.
>> 
>> Rebecca
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Anyone on here using J dictate or J say?

[Mary Otten]

No, I haven’t explored Cortana yet. I don’t have a microphone yet. I almost 
bought one last week, and wish I had, because the price went up by about 15 
bucks overnight. Oh well. I actually hope it works better than Siri on iOS. 
That’s pretty good as long as what you want to do is tell it to do stuff with 
your device. Anyway that’s a different topic.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Rick Justice  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> Have you explored the option of using Cortana on Windows 10?
> From what I understand it works similarly to Siri on IOS.
> 
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
> 
> "Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
> "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:53 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anyone on here using J dictate or J say?
> 
> 
> I’m guessing this question might be seen as a bit too general to be of 
> interest to the list. So please feel free to reply privately if you want. I 
> don’t want to clog the list with stuff folks don’t care about. I am curious 
> about the J dictate and J say. I read the blurb on Brian‘s website. I 
> certainly don’t need to control my entire computer via voice. But there are 
> aspects of it that sound like they could be rather useful. I mean, if you 
> can really use natural language to do all sorts of stuff, finding things 
> changing settings etc., without having to memorize all the stuff that goes 
> with that in terms of keyboarding and what keystroke does work, it could be 
> kind of nice. Anyway, please do feel free to reply off list at the address I 
> will put right here. I guess I’m looking for Star Trek. Smile.
> Mary
> maryot...@comcast.net
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE

[Mike B.]

Hi Dave,

See if this will help:
From: David Ferrin
AutoComplete

Have you ever started typing name or email address into Outlook's To field
only to have the feature automatically fill in the wrong address? It's very
easy to clean out infrequently used names in Outlook's AutoComplete. Start
typing an email address. When Outlook displays address options, use the Up
and Down arrow keys to highlight the name/address you want to remove, and
then press DELETE. Press the Delete key to remove the name.

David Ferrin

Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave...Oregonian
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 8:11 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE


Windows 7 32-bit
IE 11.0

I have an entry that always pops up first, and I'd like to purge it from the
list of Auto Complete entries. These are apparently not in the registry. Any
clues how to delete just one, rather than purging the entire history or
temporary files?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Anyone on here using J dictate or J say?

[Rick Justice]

Hi Mary,
Have you explored the option of using Cortana on Windows 10?
From what I understand it works similarly to Siri on IOS.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:53 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anyone on here using J dictate or J say?


I’m guessing this question might be seen as a bit too general to be of 
interest to the list. So please feel free to reply privately if you want. I 
don’t want to clog the list with stuff folks don’t care about. I am curious 
about the J dictate and J say. I read the blurb on Brian‘s website. I 
certainly don’t need to control my entire computer via voice. But there are 
aspects of it that sound like they could be rather useful. I mean, if you 
can really use natural language to do all sorts of stuff, finding things 
changing settings etc., without having to memorize all the stuff that goes 
with that in terms of keyboarding and what keystroke does work, it could be 
kind of nice. Anyway, please do feel free to reply off list at the address I 
will put right here. I guess I’m looking for Star Trek. Smile.
Mary
maryot...@comcast.net

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Rick Justice]

Hi Mary,
I am not sure if there are any active lists, I subscribed to one some time 
ago,
and never did see any traffic.
If you are on the tech talk list, you could post your question there.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR


Is there a users list for that product?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin  wrote:
>
> Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a 
> system so take my word for it.
>
> -Original Message- From: mary otten
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>
> Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually 
> looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a 
> K1000 user for a very, very very long time.  But it looks like OB 
> doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show 
> stopper for sure for me.
>
> Mary
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Rebecca Lineberger
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM
> To: jaws user's list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
>
> There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned 
> results.
> This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
> Smile.
>
> I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010.
>
> I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
> PDF and JPG.
>
> Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the
>
> "alert, empty document,"
>
> message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, 
> o,
> then d,
>
> with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context 
> menu
> key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to
>
> Recognize with JAWS.
>
> I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said
>
> Started.
>
> The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy 
> it
> with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
> control a, to select all, and control c to copy.
>
> I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as 
> usual.
> I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
> notepad would be no different.
>
> As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
> in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.
>
> All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, 
> I
> used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to
>
> Recognize with JAWS.
>
> I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text 
> waiting
> to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not 
> happy,
> smile, and kept giving me information about
>
> non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with 
> my
> table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be 
> a
> better option in this case.
>
> When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it 
> had
> when scanned by JAWS.
>
> At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
> information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
> longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well.
>
> For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.
>
> Rebecca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.
>
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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>
>
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[JAWS-Users] How to Delete an AutoComplete Entry in IE

[Dave...Oregonian]

Windows 7 32-bit
IE 11.0

I have an entry that always pops up first, and I'd like to purge it from the 
list of Auto Complete entries. These are apparently not in the registry. Any 
clues how to delete just one, rather than purging the entire history or 
temporary files?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Dave...Oregonian]

George,

There is no JAWS 19. Are you sure of that message? Can you use 
Insert+Spacebar followed by H to get the speech history up for perusal?

What version of Adobe are you using to view the PDF?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "George Martinez Sr" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 07:01
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR


Rebecca,
I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF
file.  When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message:
"Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running"
Seems that method does not work for all...  Would be nice if it did.
George


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results.
This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
Smile.

I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010.

I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
PDF and JPG.

Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the

"alert, empty document,"

message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o,
then d,

with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu
key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to

Recognize with JAWS.

I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said

Started.

The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy it
with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
control a, to select all, and control c to copy.

I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual.
I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
notepad would be no different.

As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.

All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, I
used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to

Recognize with JAWS.

I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting
to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy,
smile, and kept giving me information about

non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with my
table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a
better option in this case.

When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had
when scanned by JAWS.

At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well.

For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.

Rebecca







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[George Martinez Sr]

Rebecca,
I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF
file.  When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message:
"Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running"
Seems that method does not work for all...  Would be nice if it did.
George


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results.
This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
Smile.  

I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. 

I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
PDF and JPG.

Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the 

"alert, empty document,"

message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o,
then d, 

with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu
key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to 

Recognize with JAWS.

I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said

Started.

The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy it
with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
control a, to select all, and control c to copy.

I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual.
I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
notepad would be no different.

As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.

All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, I
used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to 

Recognize with JAWS.  

I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting
to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy,
smile, and kept giving me information about 

non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with my
table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a
better option in this case.

When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had
when scanned by JAWS. 

At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. 

For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.

Rebecca

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[Mary Otten]

Is there a users list for that product?
Mary


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> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin  wrote:
> 
> Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a system 
> so take my word for it.
> 
> -Original Message- From: mary otten
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
> 
> Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually 
> looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a 
> K1000 user for a very, very very long time.  But it looks like OB 
> doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show stopper 
> for sure for me.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Rebecca Lineberger
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM
> To: jaws user's list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
> 
> There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results.
> This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
> Smile.
> 
> I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010.
> 
> I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
> PDF and JPG.
> 
> Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the
> 
> "alert, empty document,"
> 
> message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o,
> then d,
> 
> with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu
> key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to
> 
> Recognize with JAWS.
> 
> I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said
> 
> Started.
> 
> The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy it
> with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
> control a, to select all, and control c to copy.
> 
> I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual.
> I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
> notepad would be no different.
> 
> As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
> in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.
> 
> All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, I
> used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to
> 
> Recognize with JAWS.
> 
> I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting
> to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy,
> smile, and kept giving me information about
> 
> non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with my
> table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a
> better option in this case.
> 
> When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had
> when scanned by JAWS.
> 
> At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
> information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
> longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well.
> 
> For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.
> 
> Rebecca
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.
> 
> 
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Anyone on here using J dictate or J say?

[Mary Otten]

I’m guessing this question might be seen as a bit too general to be of interest 
to the list. So please feel free to reply privately if you want. I don’t want 
to clog the list with stuff folks don’t care about. I am curious about the J 
dictate and J say. I read the blurb on Brian‘s website. I certainly don’t need 
to control my entire computer via voice. But there are aspects of it that sound 
like they could be rather useful. I mean, if you can really use natural 
language to do all sorts of stuff, finding things changing settings etc., 
without having to memorize all the stuff that goes with that in terms of 
keyboarding and what keystroke does work, it could be kind of nice. Anyway, 
please do feel free to reply off list at the address I will put right here. I 
guess I’m looking for Star Trek. Smile.
Mary
maryot...@comcast.net

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

[David Ferrin]

Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a 
system so take my word for it.


-Original Message- 
From: mary otten

Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually 
looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a 
K1000 user for a very, very very long time.  But it looks like OB 
doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show stopper 
for sure for me.


Mary

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM
To: jaws user's list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR

There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results.
This is what I did.  This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please.
Smile.

I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010.

I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats"
PDF and JPG.

Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the

"alert, empty document,"

message,  and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o,
then d,

with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu
key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to

Recognize with JAWS.

I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said

Started.

The scanned information was there to read.  I was able to select and copy it
with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or
control a, to select all, and control c to copy.

I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual.
I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word,
notepad would be no different.

As to the second format,  a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned
in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different.

All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word.  Again, I
used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to

Recognize with JAWS.

I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting
to be read.  But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy,
smile, and kept giving me information about

non-uniform tables, row and column information.  Rather than playing with my
table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a
better option in this case.

When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had
when scanned by JAWS.

At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the
information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word.  Word was no
longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well.

For those who have made it to the end, HTH.  Smile.

Rebecca







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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 mail questions

[David Ferrin]

FYI it is perfectly right on topic, so ask away.

-Original Message- 
From: mary otten

Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 1:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 mail questions

I hope this is not off topic. I’m using the above named program with Jaws 
2018. On my old Windows xp machine with its equally old email client, this 
account was set to pop3. That’s all the old email program supported. There 
was a setting in that email client that allowed me to delete messages from 
the server once they had been downloaded. I know that with gmail on my 
phone, I have the option of archiving deleted messages or permanently 
deleting them after, I think it is 30 days. I can’t find anything like that 
in the windows 10 mail app, which, I guess, means that deleted messages are 
going to stay on the server forever, which is not at all what I want. If 
there is a setting like what I have described in this app, where is it and 
how do I get to it?


Also, I am seeing all of the emails I sent showing up in my messages list in 
the inbox in the mail app. That never happened on my xp machine, and it does 
not happen in any mail account I have on my phone, and it is not something I 
want. I don’t mind a separate sent mail folder, but I sure don’t want to see 
what I send in my inbox. How can I make this stop? Thanks in advance for any 
help.


Mary

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