[JAWS-Users] This webpage wants to run the following add-on: 'Apple' from 'Apple Inc
I am running IE 11 and win 7. For a few weeks this message pops up when I try to read the local paper as well as a few other random sites. I did a repair on IE 11 with no help. I also ran combofix again with no help. Any suggestions? thanks --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] jaws keystrokes for OE
Hi TJ, Here's an OE tutorial, it's bound to have some keystrokes in it: Outlook Express Guide Outlook Express Guide A guide for Jaws users, written by Chorlton Workshop for Henshaws Society for Blind People. Introduction This is a guide to the email client, Outlook Express version 6, running under Windows XP. There are a large number of configuration options for Outlook Express. In the Configuration section at the end of this document, there is a recommended set of options. In this guide, it's assumed that your copy of Outlook Express has this configuration. Main Window Components of the window The window is divided into two columns. In the left hand column, there are are two lists: the Folders tree followed by the Address Book list. The right hand column is taken up with the Messages list. As with all programs, along the top of the window there's a title bar, followed by a menu bar. Along the bottom of the window, there's a status bar. Some of these components are described in the following sections. Title bar The title bar contains the name of the folder selected in the Folders tree, followed by the name of the program - Outlook Express. To read the title bar, press INSERT + T. Folders tree One folder in the tree is always selected, and the messages in this folder are displayed in the Messages list. The top level folder is Outlook Express, and this has a child folder, Local Folders. The latter folder has the following children: . Inbox. For incoming messages. . Outbox. A waiting area for outgoing messages. . Sent Items. After you send a message, a copy is placed in this folder. . Deleted Items. When you delete a message from a folder ( except this folder ), a copy is saved here, just in case you change your mind. . Drafts. This contains messages either that you were working on when the computer crashed, or that you save from a new message window to send later. Messages list This contains the messages in the folder which is selected in the Folders tree. . When a message is selected, Jaws says if it is unread, and if it contains any attachments. . The messages are normally sorted by the date on which they were received, with the most recent messages at the top. However, they can be sorted by other fields, and in either ascending or descending order by using the Sort By sub-menu on the View menu. Address book list This is a list of the contacts in the Address Book. It's often easier to use this list, rather than the address book proper. Status bar This contains both the total number, and the number of unread messages in the Messages list. To read the Status bar, press INSERT + PAGE DOWN. Moving around the main window . As for any window, to move to the menu bar press ALT, and to leave it, press ESC. . You can move between the Folders tree, Messages list, Contacts list etc. by pressing TAB. You can move in the opposite direction between these lists by pressing SHIFT + TAB. . You can change the selection in any of the lists by using UP and DOWN ARROW, HOME, END, and the first letter of an item. Reading Email Receiving messages . When you start Outlook Express, it downloads any new messages from your Internet Service Provider ( If you have a dial-up connection, you will be prompted to connect to the internet ). . If you want to check for new messages at any other time, press CTRL + M. . If you have a broadband connection, the program will automatically check for new messages every 5 minutes ( this time is set on the General page of the Options dialog - see the Configuration section of this guide ). Opening a message 1. Select a folder in the Folders tree ( this will often be the Inbox ). 2. Select a message in the Messages list, and press ENTER. A message window opens. Viewing message window The window includes the following components: . Title bar, which contains the subject of the message. . A pane which gives the values of the following fields: From, Date, To, Cc, Bcc, Subject, and Attach. . A pane which contains the message. When the window opens, Jaws starts reading this message. Tasks: . Press ALT + 1, or ALT + 2, ... or ALT + 6, to read the fields: From, Date, To, Cc, Bcc, and Subject. . To print the message, press CTRL + P. . To open or save an attachment, see the following sections, Opening an attachment , and Saving an attachment. . To delete the message, choose Delete Message from the File menu. . To read another message, you don't have to go back to the main window. To read the next message in the Messages list, press ALT + RIGHT ARROW. To read the previous message, press ALT + LEFT ARROW. . To close the message window, press ESC. Opening an attachment In the message window: 1. Move to the attachment list either by pressing INSERT + A, or by TABBING to it. If there are an number of attachments in the list, select the attachment you want to open. Press ENTER. 2. A Mail attachment window opens. In this window, press SHIFT + TAB to m
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
There are also Android OCR apps out there that might do the trick, will have to try them. Judy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 4:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I think that seeing AI might do what you want, if that is reading a sign or something. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 12:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Yes, I do this with my iPhone. I open Be My Eyes app and when the person comes on I hold my iPhone on the screen of my pc and then the person on Be My eyes can tell you which way to move the iPhone so they can see the Capcha and then they can read the information to you. Last time I did it the lady stayed on my iPhone after I entered the numbers or letter to make sure it worked. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Do you do this with your phone? Do you hold your phone's camera up to your PC screen? -Original Message- From: Mr. Ed Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 10:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and is free. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
Yes, There have only been a few times I could read one with my Optacon. Judy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of el...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 5:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA The text and background is intentionally done as Dave said. It is meant to make it impossible to be recognized by OCR. I have heard a few audio CAPTCHs that, without distortion, would say something like "Jim had two cows and a horse. He sold a cow. How many horses were left? "This example is overly simplistic, still there are better ways to prove your humanness than the current tests. As someone with both vision and hearing limitations, I hate all regular forms of CAPTCHAs. Rick -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Nope. Captchas are written in very hard-to-read text, on a very hard-to-read foreground/background color combination. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "LeDon" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 16:05 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I think that seeing AI might do what you want, if that is reading a sign or something. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 12:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Yes, I do this with my iPhone. I open Be My Eyes app and when the person comes on I hold my iPhone on the screen of my pc and then the person on Be My eyes can tell you which way to move the iPhone so they can see the Capcha and then they can read the information to you. Last time I did it the lady stayed on my iPhone after I entered the numbers or letter to make sure it worked. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Do you do this with your phone? Do you hold your phone's camera up to your PC screen? -Original Message- From: Mr. Ed Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 10:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and is free. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] online outlook client
using jaws 2018 I’m having trouble opening my email messages from www.office.com I would assume when you arrow to a message icon I would just need to press enter on the message icon to open and I would beable to read the message line by line with the arrow keys. but for some reason when I press enter on an icon the message doesn’t open. but when I select a message jaws will read it. I prefer to read an email line by line that way I can take my time when jaws is reading me the message. is this a bug in 2018 or is there some special way to open the message? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I'm having trouble with this blasted link!.
Hi The menu is being displayed in 2 photos. This is most likely why JAWS isn't reading the menues. Donna > On Jan 9, 2018, at 6:31 PM, randy tijerina wrote: > > Hi friendsthis link supposedly shows..the menu to this joint in San > antonio. > However, jaws just says...one heading or whatever..and 10 links...How do I > get the menu to display? > http://www.chestershamburgers.com/menu.html > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
The text and background is intentionally done as Dave said. It is meant to make it impossible to be recognized by OCR. I have heard a few audio CAPTCHs that, without distortion, would say something like "Jim had two cows and a horse. He sold a cow. How many horses were left? "This example is overly simplistic, still there are better ways to prove your humanness than the current tests. As someone with both vision and hearing limitations, I hate all regular forms of CAPTCHAs. Rick -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Nope. Captchas are written in very hard-to-read text, on a very hard-to-read foreground/background color combination. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "LeDon" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 16:05 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I think that seeing AI might do what you want, if that is reading a sign or something. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 12:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Yes, I do this with my iPhone. I open Be My Eyes app and when the person comes on I hold my iPhone on the screen of my pc and then the person on Be My eyes can tell you which way to move the iPhone so they can see the Capcha and then they can read the information to you. Last time I did it the lady stayed on my iPhone after I entered the numbers or letter to make sure it worked. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Do you do this with your phone? Do you hold your phone's camera up to your PC screen? -Original Message- From: Mr. Ed Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 10:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and is free. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
Nope. Captchas are written in very hard-to-read text, on a very hard-to-read foreground/background color combination. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "LeDon" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 16:05 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I think that seeing AI might do what you want, if that is reading a sign or something. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 12:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Yes, I do this with my iPhone. I open Be My Eyes app and when the person comes on I hold my iPhone on the screen of my pc and then the person on Be My eyes can tell you which way to move the iPhone so they can see the Capcha and then they can read the information to you. Last time I did it the lady stayed on my iPhone after I entered the numbers or letter to make sure it worked. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Do you do this with your phone? Do you hold your phone's camera up to your PC screen? -Original Message- From: Mr. Ed Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 10:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and is free. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
I think that seeing AI might do what you want, if that is reading a sign or something. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 12:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Yes, I do this with my iPhone. I open Be My Eyes app and when the person comes on I hold my iPhone on the screen of my pc and then the person on Be My eyes can tell you which way to move the iPhone so they can see the Capcha and then they can read the information to you. Last time I did it the lady stayed on my iPhone after I entered the numbers or letter to make sure it worked. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Do you do this with your phone? Do you hold your phone's camera up to your PC screen? -Original Message- From: Mr. Ed Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 10:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and is free. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I'm having trouble with this blasted link!.
Randy, Sorry, but unless I personally know the sender of a link, I do not click on it. No disrespect intended. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "randy tijerina" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 15:31 Subject: [JAWS-Users] I'm having trouble with this blasted link!. Hi friendsthis link supposedly shows..the menu to this joint in San antonio. However, jaws just says...one heading or whatever..and 10 links...How do I get the menu to display? http://www.chestershamburgers.com/menu.html For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] I'm having trouble with this blasted link!.
Hi friendsthis link supposedly shows..the menu to this joint in San antonio. However, jaws just says...one heading or whatever..and 10 links...How do I get the menu to display? http://www.chestershamburgers.com/menu.html For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Controlling Which Dialect Jaws Speaks
First of all, try unchecking the Generalized Dialect checkbox in the Text Processing group witting JAWS Settings Center. If this doesn't exactly solve your problem, you can disable Language Detection and manually switch to Latin American Spanish when appropriate by pressing CTRL+WINDOWS+L and selecting Spanish (Mexico) in the list (in JAWS 9 was still called Latin American Spanish at it is internally still known), and except in JAWS 9 where there were no voices profiles as added in JAWS 10, create a new voice profile whose primary language would be Spanish (Mexico), to be used by selecting it in the CTRL+INSERT+S list. It is not possible in JAWS 17 because everything related to Eloquence is now comprised in a single file, but in JAWS 9 you could also try to delete the file for Castilian Spanish and rename the one for Latin American Spanish with the same name as the used for Castilian Spanish, to make JAWS to think that it's using Castilian Spanish. I can't test it now because I haven't JAWS old versions, but these files are located somewhere in the JAWS subfolder witting Program Files, perhaps in Drivers\Speech\Eloq. If I'm not wrong, the file for Castilian Spanish is ESP.syn and the one for Latin American Spanish is named ESM.syn. One more question: are you using Windows and JAWS in English or Spanish? This matters especially for JAWS, since translations of many things as made by Freedom Scientific (and ONCE CIDAT in the past) aren't obvious. For example, voice profiles were translated as configuraciones de voz instead of perfiles de voz, as in JAWS 5.0 Spanish translators localized the voice aliases feature incorrectly as perfiles de voz. Likewise, the Generalized Dialect in the Text Processing group is named Generalizar Idioma in Spanish, not dialecto. I suggested you based on English option names. Hope it helps! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andrew James Bontrager Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 11:29 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Controlling Which Dialect Jaws Speaks I have Jaws 9 and 17. When I am reading a Spanish web page, Jaws automatically detects the change of language, speaking in Castilian Spanish. But I live in Guatemala, Latin America! I don't really care for the Castilian dialect. Is there a way to change the default dialect when Spanish is detected? --- I am, therefore I think. Ande For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** combo box not working
Hans, yes, that is what I do. The funny thing is that if I try these things at work, mostly they work, and that version of jaws is even older, jaws 12. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hans Pauli Sundstein Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 1:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** combo box not working Hi. Do you activate the compobox e.g. with spacebar, open the listbox with alt+arrow down, and than arrow down to the desired selection, and close the listbox with alt+arrow up? If the webpage is written in html5, your version of Jaws probably is to old. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Judy Dato: 9. januar 2018 00:48 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] combo box not working Hi, all, in the past few days when I am on a website and I encounter a combo box where I need to arrow to what I want, it doesn't work. I open the combo box as usual, but the arrow keys don't work, nothing moves or reads. It doesn't matter what website it is. Using Win 7 and Jaws 14. Any ideas? Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] combo box not working
Hi Judy, Have you tried using the Alt + down arrow when you are on the drop down box? Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 5:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] combo box not working Hi, all, in the past few days when I am on a website and I encounter a combo box where I need to arrow to what I want, it doesn't work. I open the combo box as usual, but the arrow keys don't work, nothing moves or reads. It doesn't matter what website it is. Using Win 7 and Jaws 14. Any ideas? Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for jaws
Hi I have found that creating a shortcut key to start a particular version of JAWS is not as useful as it was in days of yore. But there is an easy way to start any version of JAWS which does not need any changes to make it work. With a shortcut key, you have to make sure that all shortcut keys on the computer are only used for 1 program. If there is a duplicate shortcut key, neither shortcut key will work. When a JAWS update is run, JAWS recreates a new shortcut on the desktop which does not have a shortcut key. So you have to recreate the shortcut key. I doubt that this has changed for JAWS 2018. When you install a new version of JAWS, unless you first uninstalled the current version, you have to either create and remember a different shortcut key for the new version or delete or change the shortcut key for the old version . To easily start any version of JAWS, just hold down the Windows key and press r to open the Windows run dialog. Then enter the name of the JAWS version you want to start and press enter. The name of the JAWS version is JAWS followed by the version number. For JAWS 17, the name is JAWS17. For JAWS 18, the name is JAWS 18 and for JAWS 2018 the name is JAWS2018. Capital letters are not required. I find that this method of starting JAWS is very easy when I want to run different versions of jaws at different times. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of leonard morris Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 05:33 To: Jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for jaws I'm still using Jaws 18 so I don't know if this is changed in Jaws 2018. However, I have noticed over the years when you perform a jaws update you also have to put back your shortcut key to bring up Jaws. I'mglad I have Jaws to start first on reboot because I would have a difficult time trying to find the version of jaws I'm using since I have Jaws 17 as well as 18 on the desktop. -- "Every country has an idenity, history, customs, and culture. It's a unique landscape in determining how its people live, work and play." For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Email messages and wingdings in body of message
Afternoon all. I use WLM version 16.4. On a few of my incoming messages, there have been some wingdings in the body of the text. Can anyone tell me why this is, and how to correct it? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
Hi Dave, You make a good point. Thanks for the advice. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Ed and Others, Be very careful when using BeMyEyes to read your computer screen. Make sure you get to the captcha section *before* you enter any personal information, and make sure that there is *no* other personal information on that screen or on other windows in the background. As nice as the BeMyEyes service is, it is a human on the other end who is reading your computer screen, and they can see everything on it. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mr. Ed" To: Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 08:46 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and is free. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
Yes, I do this with my iPhone. I open Be My Eyes app and when the person comes on I hold my iPhone on the screen of my pc and then the person on Be My eyes can tell you which way to move the iPhone so they can see the Capcha and then they can read the information to you. Last time I did it the lady stayed on my iPhone after I entered the numbers or letter to make sure it worked. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA Do you do this with your phone? Do you hold your phone's camera up to your PC screen? -Original Message- From: Mr. Ed Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 10:46 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and is free. Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of chris judge Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA? Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** wlm not reading message in th3 body but in atxt file
Hi. If the computer is set up to go into sleep mode, when shutting down, Jaws suddently will be tired, and dos'nt read anything. Restart the computer, it should solve the problem for now. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Janie Degenshein Dato: 9. januar 2018 00:58 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] wlm not reading message in th3 body but in atxt file A friend of mine has his wlm set up and working fine until a few days ago Now when entering on the message, he needs to wait for about 5 seconds and the message area reads blank blank blank so our workaround is to shift tab to get to the area that says . txt and open like an attachment Can anyone suggest where I should look with him He previously had his computer scanned, disc clean up/defrag and his temporary internet files deleted and reopened wlm to no avail Suggestions ???Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have! Facilitator of ECHO (Eyes Closed Hearts Open) state affiliate board member President of the senior division of the National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey President of the Technology division of the National federation of the Blind of New Jersey NFBNJ Newsline co-ordinator jdege...@comcast.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** combo box not working
Hi. Do you activate the compobox e.g. with spacebar, open the listbox with alt+arrow down, and than arrow down to the desired selection, and close the listbox with alt+arrow up? If the webpage is written in html5, your version of Jaws probably is to old. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Judy Dato: 9. januar 2018 00:48 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] combo box not working Hi, all, in the past few days when I am on a website and I encounter a combo box where I need to arrow to what I want, it doesn't work. I open the combo box as usual, but the arrow keys don't work, nothing moves or reads. It doesn't matter what website it is. Using Win 7 and Jaws 14. Any ideas? Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Controlling Which Dialect Jaws Speaks
I have Jaws 9 and 17. When I am reading a Spanish web page, Jaws automatically detects the change of language, speaking in Castilian Spanish. But I live in Guatemala, Latin America! I don't really care for the Castilian dialect. Is there a way to change the default dialect when Spanish is detected? --- I am, therefore I think. Ande For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] [jaws] jaws keystrokes for OE
can someone give me the list of jaws keystrokes for outlook express? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] combo box not working
I have found similar issues with some but not all combo boxes. One solution I found is to use JawsKey+F5 to locate the combo box and hit ok. This seems to allow you to activate the box. I am not sure why this works, some suggest that it brings the underlying list into focus. Regards Tom Bisset -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 6:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] combo box not working Hi, all, in the past few days when I am on a website and I encounter a combo box where I need to arrow to what I want, it doesn't work. I open the combo box as usual, but the arrow keys don't work, nothing moves or reads. It doesn't matter what website it is. Using Win 7 and Jaws 14. Any ideas? Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation)
JAWS refers to elements with ARIA landmark roles as "regions". I haven't tested this, but I strongly suspect that some HTML5 elements are treated as regions also, for example, the element, and the element. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 10:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) That's great. Should help us out a lot. Thank you. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire Sent: January 8, 2018 10:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) In addition to information given by Roger, you can find useful to see the JAWS Support for ARIA document, by Freedom Scientific, which explains not only compatibility level between JAWS and different browsers with specific ARIA tags, but also aspects in which for some reason JAWS deviates formally from the standards. You can find this document in Word format here: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Other/JAWS-ARIA-Support.doc Hope it helps! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 7:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) Thank you very much, Roger. No need to apologise; this was exactly the sort of thing I needed to read. Thanks for the page reference as well; I will show it to my contact and maybe she can pass it along to the developer. I understand the concept of web 2.0 and HTML 5; it was just good to get all this stuff clarified a bit, especially in the case of "aria". So thanks again. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Roger Newell Sent: January 8, 2018 4:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) OK, this is going to be a bit of a rant, but please read it all because you will hopefully find it interesting and important. About ten years ago, a new concept was invented. It was called Web 2.0. It isn't a new "version" of the web, but rather a new approach to what the web is and what it can do. In the 1990s and early 2000s, the web was simply a portal for reading and editing basic information, but around 2008 or so, this began tochange with the advent of Facebook, Twitter and more comprehensive websites. People started using the web for everything from banking to advanced document creation to even viewing and manipulating the files on other devices. To keep up with this, The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) created Accessible Rich Internet Applications (ARIA). Many web developers saw the need to use nonstandard controls on their websites. For example, rather than having a button that advanced a user to a completely different page to see information, they wanted to have controls that expanded and collapsed different parts of a page. To let screen reader users know exactly what they were seeing, ARIA can be used to tell the screen reader and the blind user something like, "Hey. This is a nonstandard control. Just think of it as a button and you'll be okay. And by the way, right now, it's open, so there's more information to see on this page." Web developers can use ARIA to give sections of their pages custom region names. As an example, go to the Training Downloads Page of the Freedom Scientific website. A few years after ARIA came along, HTML5 (the latest version of the markup language used to code websites) was released. This gave web developers a lot of new semantic tools to play with because it was hoped that they would use to identify different parts of their pages so that one day, when AI would be advanced enough to read and comprehend webpages themselves, they would be able to more easily analyse websites using these semantic tags. Have you ever heard JAWS say something like "article" or "content information"? There are also tags for naming regions. These are some of the new tags in HTML5, but be aware that sometimes JAWS does not speak the correct name for the tag, which is one reason why JAWS is only somewhat standards-compliant. In JAWS 2018, you have the ability to customize what tags JAWS speaks aloud. To see this, go to Settings Center > Web/HTML/PDF > Reading > Customize Web Verbosity Levels or something like that. So how do ARIA and HTML5 go together to announce regions? The answer is that they often overlap. This page (https://dequeuniversity.com/assets/html/jquery-summit/html5/slides/landmark s.html) explains this in greater detail and may be of more use to the people doing the web design. It is somewhat strange t
Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation)
The information I gave was through very limited HTML knowledge. I think I may have said something wrong. Ignore the bit from my email about JAWS not using standard names for ARIA markup as I think this is wrong with reference to the Word document. On 1/9/18, JM Casey wrote: > That's great. Should help us out a lot. Thank you. > > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire > Sent: January 8, 2018 10:34 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) > > In addition to information given by Roger, you can find useful to see the > JAWS Support for ARIA document, by Freedom Scientific, which explains not > only compatibility level between JAWS and different browsers with specific > ARIA tags, but also aspects in which for some reason JAWS deviates formally > from the standards. You can find this document in Word format here: > http://www.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Other/JAWS-ARIA-Support.doc > > Hope it helps! > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 7:09 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) > > Thank you very much, Roger. No need to apologise; this was exactly the sort > of thing I needed to read. Thanks for the page reference as well; I will > show it to my contact and maybe she can pass it along to the developer. I > understand the concept of web 2.0 and HTML 5; it was just good to get all > this stuff clarified a bit, especially in the case of "aria". So thanks > again. > > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Roger Newell > Sent: January 8, 2018 4:38 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What, exactly, is a "region" (html navigation) > > OK, this is going to be a bit of a rant, but please read it all because you > will hopefully find it interesting and important. > > About ten years ago, a new concept was invented. It was called Web 2.0. It > isn't a new "version" of the web, but rather a new approach to what the web > is and what it can do. In the 1990s and early 2000s, the web was simply a > portal for reading and editing basic information, but around 2008 or so, > this began tochange with the advent of Facebook, Twitter and more > comprehensive websites. People started using the web for everything from > banking to advanced document creation to even viewing and manipulating the > files on other devices. > > To keep up with this, The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) created Accessible > Rich Internet Applications (ARIA). Many web developers saw the need to use > nonstandard controls on their websites. For example, rather than having a > button that advanced a user to a completely different page to see > information, they wanted to have controls that expanded and collapsed > different parts of a page. To let screen reader users know exactly what they > were seeing, ARIA can be used to tell the screen reader and the blind user > something like, "Hey. This is a nonstandard control. Just think of it as a > button and you'll be okay. > And by the way, right now, it's open, so there's more information to see on > this page." Web developers can use ARIA to give sections of their pages > custom region names. As an example, go to the Training Downloads Page of the > Freedom Scientific website. > > A few years after ARIA came along, HTML5 (the latest version of the markup > language used to code websites) was released. This gave web developers a lot > of new semantic tools to play with because it was hoped that they would use > to identify different parts of their pages so that one day, when AI would be > advanced enough to read and comprehend webpages themselves, they would be > able to more easily analyse websites using these semantic tags. Have you > ever heard JAWS say something like "article" or "content information"? There > are also tags for naming regions. These are some of the new tags in HTML5, > but be aware that sometimes JAWS does not speak the correct name for the > tag, which is one reason why JAWS is only somewhat standards-compliant. In > JAWS 2018, you have the ability to customize what tags JAWS speaks aloud. To > see this, go to Settings Center > Web/HTML/PDF > Reading > Customize Web > Verbosity Levels or something like that. > > So how do ARIA and HTML5 go together to announce regions? The answer is that > they often overlap. This page > (https://dequeuniversity.com/assets/html/jquery-summit/html5/slides/landmark > s.html) > explains this in greater detail and may be of more use to the people doing > the web design. It is somewhat strange that we can access this page as it is > part of a paid course, but it came up in Go
Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for jaws
the problem with this is every jaws version you have installed would have the same shortcut keys. this would not work. they would be in conflict. so i say leve it alone. let the user create there own shortcuts. -Original Message- From: Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 1:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for jaws There is no reason they couldn't put a short cut in there automatically pre-configured. Let the user change it if they want but it would make easier for those that are used to it or that prefer it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 5:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for jaws You wouldn't have to find it on the desktop. Just hit windows key+r, and type in "jaws17" or "jaws18", depending on what version you want. Then, there it is. Considering that every JAWS install removes the shortcut, and how often they have updates nowadays, I just stopped bothering with the shortcut altogether, and just use the run command, which always works so long as File Explorer is running. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of leonard morris Sent: January 8, 2018 5:33 PM To: Jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for jaws I'm still using Jaws 18 so I don't know if this is changed in Jaws 2018. However, I have noticed over the years when you perform a jaws update you also have to put back your shortcut key to bring up Jaws. I'mglad I have Jaws to start first on reboot because I would have a difficult time trying to find the version of jaws I'm using since I have Jaws 17 as well as 18 on the desktop. -- "Every country has an idenity, history, customs, and culture. It's a unique landscape in determining how its people live, work and play." For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for jaws
There is no reason they couldn't put a short cut in there automatically pre-configured. Let the user change it if they want but it would make easier for those that are used to it or that prefer it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 5:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for jaws You wouldn't have to find it on the desktop. Just hit windows key+r, and type in "jaws17" or "jaws18", depending on what version you want. Then, there it is. Considering that every JAWS install removes the shortcut, and how often they have updates nowadays, I just stopped bothering with the shortcut altogether, and just use the run command, which always works so long as File Explorer is running. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of leonard morris Sent: January 8, 2018 5:33 PM To: Jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] shortcut key for jaws I'm still using Jaws 18 so I don't know if this is changed in Jaws 2018. However, I have noticed over the years when you perform a jaws update you also have to put back your shortcut key to bring up Jaws. I'mglad I have Jaws to start first on reboot because I would have a difficult time trying to find the version of jaws I'm using since I have Jaws 17 as well as 18 on the desktop. -- "Every country has an idenity, history, customs, and culture. It's a unique landscape in determining how its people live, work and play." For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/