Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14
I bank with boa and have had no troubles with the site, I think that your having a trouble with your... I.E.9, and not a general trouble with the program, I use it for nearly everything except for CAPTIA's, and if I wanted to pay 18 cents a captcha I could use it on those as well. but I do recognize the usefulness of ff for testing things and for those pesky are you a real person sign in images. ok, just uploaded it to my site, go to/enter on this URL and you will get a very limited page called fetch http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/fetch.html there will be one link on it, and that will download ff 16 for you take care, inthane -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Gosling Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 I would very much like the link to the Firefox 16. As to the statement made that there is not much difference between accessibility with IE 9 and FF I have found many. Just the other day I tried to sign up for the free samples on doctoroz.com and there was no space to fill in any info with IE 9 but when I copied the link and opened it in FF the form fields were there and I was able to sign up. Expressscripts.com is another that I could not sign in on IE 9. Also the FIOS website, the Lookout.com and I think certain pages of the Bank of America site. Those are just the ones I remember having problems with recently using IE 9 that were accessible with FF.. Mostly I don't compare page by page unless I know ahead of time that there is something that is supposed to be there and isn't on IE 9. I would think that Jaws should put more effort into making IE more accessible or at least fix this freezing problem with Firefox. As for using version 3.5 of Firefox. it seems to me that that would really be a security risk rather like using IE 6 or 7. I really would like to switch to Firefox for my default. Maybe the version 16 would work with Jaws 14. Thanks, Sherrie -Original Message- From: inthaneelf Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 if anyone wishes to revert to ff 16 I do believe I have the installer file here for it still. I tend to keep them JIC elf -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 First of all, no need to reboot your computer when firefox crashes. Hit ctrl-alt-escape, find the firefox in applications, hit the applications/context key on it and choose end task. Second of all, having used both firefox and ie9, I'd say that ie9 gives more information on webpages where there is any difference at all. I have yet to find one that is more accessible with firefox. If you are having a lot of crashes with firefox as your default browser, caused by clicking on links, you might want to change to ie as the default. You can download ff17.x off of mozilla's ftp site, you have to dig for it though. If it weren't for a couple of plugins that allow me to block ads and control what javascript I wish to allow, along with how it deals with rss, I'd use internet explorer instead of firefox. I've used firefox for many years, so I don't say that lightly. I have yet to try the release version of ff19, but the beta crashed just like ff18 did. On 2/21/2013 05:49, Sharon Gosling wrote: I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email. One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page and then the youtube link yesterday. There were others I remember from Lookout Mobile Security. Can't remember them all. The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut down Firefox. The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox. I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas. I know there are many avid Firefox users on this list. I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19. But where would I get 17. And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally have better security. Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to youtube and search for videos. I click links from friends that take me to interesting youtube videos. If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more accessible the page might be on Firefox. Now, I only try Firefox when I know there are form fields or other information I know should be there. I imagine there is a great deal more information that I
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14
if anyone wishes to revert to ff 16 I do believe I have the installer file here for it still. I tend to keep them JIC elf -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 First of all, no need to reboot your computer when firefox crashes. Hit ctrl-alt-escape, find the firefox in applications, hit the applications/context key on it and choose end task. Second of all, having used both firefox and ie9, I'd say that ie9 gives more information on webpages where there is any difference at all. I have yet to find one that is more accessible with firefox. If you are having a lot of crashes with firefox as your default browser, caused by clicking on links, you might want to change to ie as the default. You can download ff17.x off of mozilla's ftp site, you have to dig for it though. If it weren't for a couple of plugins that allow me to block ads and control what javascript I wish to allow, along with how it deals with rss, I'd use internet explorer instead of firefox. I've used firefox for many years, so I don't say that lightly. I have yet to try the release version of ff19, but the beta crashed just like ff18 did. On 2/21/2013 05:49, Sharon Gosling wrote: I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email. One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page and then the youtube link yesterday. There were others I remember from Lookout Mobile Security. Can't remember them all. The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut down Firefox. The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox. I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas. I know there are many avid Firefox users on this list. I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19. But where would I get 17. And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally have better security. Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to youtube and search for videos. I click links from friends that take me to interesting youtube videos. If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more accessible the page might be on Firefox. Now, I only try Firefox when I know there are form fields or other information I know should be there. I imagine there is a great deal more information that I don't even realize I am missing using IE 9. If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws or Firefox about it. Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws. Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers and flash. You could try the html5 version of youtube at www.youtube.com/html5. As far as the other freezes go, I've found that the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update automatically. I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any better, but I kinda hate to break what is working. On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote: I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that websites that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9 don't even show the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for these sites. I have been able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to make Firefox my default browser. But Firefox constantly freezes totally when it says it is being redirected to a different website. It says to press alt A or control A to proceed but this doesn't work. It stops and only reads the title of the website. It will not close at all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going to file menu or using Jaws cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the window. I have to do a forced restart of the whole computer. I can't even open a new tab of Firefox to finish what I was doing. Today it happened when I clicked on a youtube link. When I alt tab away from the frozen Firefox window and then back it only reads the title of the page. I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0. I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it out of necessity and it constantly freezes. I don't know what is showing on the screen but in the window list is says minimized. Tried the alt space and x to maximize the window but no response. Jaws cursor does nothing either. I would really appreciate some advice from the group. IE 9 seems to do less
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14
I would very much like the link to the Firefox 16. As to the statement made that there is not much difference between accessibility with IE 9 and FF I have found many. Just the other day I tried to sign up for the free samples on doctoroz.com and there was no space to fill in any info with IE 9 but when I copied the link and opened it in FF the form fields were there and I was able to sign up. Expressscripts.com is another that I could not sign in on IE 9. Also the FIOS website, the Lookout.com and I think certain pages of the Bank of America site. Those are just the ones I remember having problems with recently using IE 9 that were accessible with FF.. Mostly I don't compare page by page unless I know ahead of time that there is something that is supposed to be there and isn't on IE 9. I would think that Jaws should put more effort into making IE more accessible or at least fix this freezing problem with Firefox. As for using version 3.5 of Firefox. it seems to me that that would really be a security risk rather like using IE 6 or 7. I really would like to switch to Firefox for my default. Maybe the version 16 would work with Jaws 14. Thanks, Sherrie -Original Message- From: inthaneelf Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 if anyone wishes to revert to ff 16 I do believe I have the installer file here for it still. I tend to keep them JIC elf -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 First of all, no need to reboot your computer when firefox crashes. Hit ctrl-alt-escape, find the firefox in applications, hit the applications/context key on it and choose end task. Second of all, having used both firefox and ie9, I'd say that ie9 gives more information on webpages where there is any difference at all. I have yet to find one that is more accessible with firefox. If you are having a lot of crashes with firefox as your default browser, caused by clicking on links, you might want to change to ie as the default. You can download ff17.x off of mozilla's ftp site, you have to dig for it though. If it weren't for a couple of plugins that allow me to block ads and control what javascript I wish to allow, along with how it deals with rss, I'd use internet explorer instead of firefox. I've used firefox for many years, so I don't say that lightly. I have yet to try the release version of ff19, but the beta crashed just like ff18 did. On 2/21/2013 05:49, Sharon Gosling wrote: I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email. One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page and then the youtube link yesterday. There were others I remember from Lookout Mobile Security. Can't remember them all. The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut down Firefox. The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox. I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas. I know there are many avid Firefox users on this list. I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19. But where would I get 17. And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally have better security. Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to youtube and search for videos. I click links from friends that take me to interesting youtube videos. If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more accessible the page might be on Firefox. Now, I only try Firefox when I know there are form fields or other information I know should be there. I imagine there is a great deal more information that I don't even realize I am missing using IE 9. If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws or Firefox about it. Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws. Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers and flash. You could try the html5 version of youtube at www.youtube.com/html5. As far as the other freezes go, I've found that the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update automatically. I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any better, but I kinda hate to break what is working. On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote: I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that websites that I
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14
I think your security concerns over Firefox 3.6 are overblown. I use it regularly and have never encountered any security issues. It is certainly more stable and reliable than the higher versions of Firefox. Gerald - Original Message - From: Sharon Gosling sillygoo...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 I would very much like the link to the Firefox 16. As to the statement made that there is not much difference between accessibility with IE 9 and FF I have found many. Just the other day I tried to sign up for the free samples on doctoroz.com and there was no space to fill in any info with IE 9 but when I copied the link and opened it in FF the form fields were there and I was able to sign up. Expressscripts.com is another that I could not sign in on IE 9. Also the FIOS website, the Lookout.com and I think certain pages of the Bank of America site. Those are just the ones I remember having problems with recently using IE 9 that were accessible with FF.. Mostly I don't compare page by page unless I know ahead of time that there is something that is supposed to be there and isn't on IE 9. I would think that Jaws should put more effort into making IE more accessible or at least fix this freezing problem with Firefox. As for using version 3.5 of Firefox. it seems to me that that would really be a security risk rather like using IE 6 or 7. I really would like to switch to Firefox for my default. Maybe the version 16 would work with Jaws 14. Thanks, Sherrie -Original Message- From: inthaneelf Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 if anyone wishes to revert to ff 16 I do believe I have the installer file here for it still. I tend to keep them JIC elf -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 First of all, no need to reboot your computer when firefox crashes. Hit ctrl-alt-escape, find the firefox in applications, hit the applications/context key on it and choose end task. Second of all, having used both firefox and ie9, I'd say that ie9 gives more information on webpages where there is any difference at all. I have yet to find one that is more accessible with firefox. If you are having a lot of crashes with firefox as your default browser, caused by clicking on links, you might want to change to ie as the default. You can download ff17.x off of mozilla's ftp site, you have to dig for it though. If it weren't for a couple of plugins that allow me to block ads and control what javascript I wish to allow, along with how it deals with rss, I'd use internet explorer instead of firefox. I've used firefox for many years, so I don't say that lightly. I have yet to try the release version of ff19, but the beta crashed just like ff18 did. On 2/21/2013 05:49, Sharon Gosling wrote: I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email. One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page and then the youtube link yesterday. There were others I remember from Lookout Mobile Security. Can't remember them all. The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut down Firefox. The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox. I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas. I know there are many avid Firefox users on this list. I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19. But where would I get 17. And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally have better security. Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to youtube and search for videos. I click links from friends that take me to interesting youtube videos. If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more accessible the page might be on Firefox. Now, I only try Firefox when I know there are form fields or other information I know should be there. I imagine there is a great deal more information that I don't even realize I am missing using IE 9. If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws or Firefox about it. Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws. Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers and flash. You could
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14
I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email. One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page and then the youtube link yesterday. There were others I remember from Lookout Mobile Security. Can't remember them all. The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut down Firefox. The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox. I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas. I know there are many avid Firefox users on this list. I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19. But where would I get 17. And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally have better security. Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to youtube and search for videos. I click links from friends that take me to interesting youtube videos. If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more accessible the page might be on Firefox. Now, I only try Firefox when I know there are form fields or other information I know should be there. I imagine there is a great deal more information that I don't even realize I am missing using IE 9. If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws or Firefox about it. Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws. Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers and flash. You could try the html5 version of youtube at www.youtube.com/html5. As far as the other freezes go, I've found that the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update automatically. I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any better, but I kinda hate to break what is working. On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote: I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that websites that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9 don’t even show the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for these sites. I have been able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to make Firefox my default browser. But Firefox constantly freezes totally when it says it is being redirected to a different website. It says to press alt A or control A to proceed but this doesn’t work. It stops and only reads the title of the website. It will not close at all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going to file menu or using Jaws cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the window. I have to do a forced restart of the whole computer. I can’t even open a new tab of Firefox to finish what I was doing. Today it happened when I clicked on a youtube link. When I alt tab away from the frozen Firefox window and then back it only reads the title of the page. I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0. I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it out of necessity and it constantly freezes. I don’t know what is showing on the screen but in the window list is says minimized. Tried the alt space and x to maximize the window but no response. Jaws cursor does nothing either. I would really appreciate some advice from the group. IE 9 seems to do less and less for me and now comparing the same windows on IE and on Firefox it is really incredible that Firefox makes the websites so much more accessible. So I need Firefox!! Help, please. Sherrie Gosling For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14
You do not need to uninstall Firefox 19to roll back to Firefox 17 or any other earlier version of Firefox you want to try. You can simply install the portable version of Firefox 17 or earlier. The regular and portable versions of Firefox can co-exist on your computer without conflicting with each other, and in fact, can even run at the same time , much as IE and Firefox can run at the same time. On my system, I have the regular version of Firefox 3.6, the last stable version before the onslaught of rapid new releases, along with the portable version of Firefox 17. This way, I can switch from FF 17 to FF 3.6 or vice versa if I encounter problems with the version I am using. So if I encounter a problem navigating a particular web site with FF 17, I can simply try navigating it with FF 3.6. You can download earlier versions of Firefox portable from the following site: http://mozilla-firefox-portable.en.uptodown.com/old Gerald - Original Message - From: Sharon Gosling sillygoo...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email. One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page and then the youtube link yesterday. There were others I remember from Lookout Mobile Security. Can't remember them all. The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut down Firefox. The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox. I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas. I know there are many avid Firefox users on this list. I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19. But where would I get 17. And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally have better security. Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to youtube and search for videos. I click links from friends that take me to interesting youtube videos. If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more accessible the page might be on Firefox. Now, I only try Firefox when I know there are form fields or other information I know should be there. I imagine there is a great deal more information that I don't even realize I am missing using IE 9. If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws or Firefox about it. Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws. Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers and flash. You could try the html5 version of youtube at www.youtube.com/html5. As far as the other freezes go, I've found that the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update automatically. I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any better, but I kinda hate to break what is working. On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote: I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that websites that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9 don’t even show the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for these sites. I have been able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to make Firefox my default browser. But Firefox constantly freezes totally when it says it is being redirected to a different website. It says to press alt A or control A to proceed but this doesn’t work. It stops and only reads the title of the website. It will not close at all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going to file menu or using Jaws cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the window. I have to do a forced restart of the whole computer. I can’t even open a new tab of Firefox to finish what I was doing. Today it happened when I clicked on a youtube link. When I alt tab away from the frozen Firefox window and then back it only reads the title of the page. I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0. I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it out of necessity and it constantly freezes. I don’t know what is showing on the screen but in the window list is says minimized. Tried the alt space and x to maximize the window but no response. Jaws cursor does nothing either. I would really appreciate some advice from the group. IE 9 seems to do less and less for me and now comparing the same windows on IE and on Firefox it is really incredible that Firefox makes the websites so much more accessible. So I need Firefox!! Help, please. Sherrie Gosling For answers to frequently asked questions
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14
First of all, no need to reboot your computer when firefox crashes. Hit ctrl-alt-escape, find the firefox in applications, hit the applications/context key on it and choose end task. Second of all, having used both firefox and ie9, I'd say that ie9 gives more information on webpages where there is any difference at all. I have yet to find one that is more accessible with firefox. If you are having a lot of crashes with firefox as your default browser, caused by clicking on links, you might want to change to ie as the default. You can download ff17.x off of mozilla's ftp site, you have to dig for it though. If it weren't for a couple of plugins that allow me to block ads and control what javascript I wish to allow, along with how it deals with rss, I'd use internet explorer instead of firefox. I've used firefox for many years, so I don't say that lightly. I have yet to try the release version of ff19, but the beta crashed just like ff18 did. On 2/21/2013 05:49, Sharon Gosling wrote: I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email. One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page and then the youtube link yesterday. There were others I remember from Lookout Mobile Security. Can't remember them all. The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut down Firefox. The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox. I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas. I know there are many avid Firefox users on this list. I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19. But where would I get 17. And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally have better security. Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to youtube and search for videos. I click links from friends that take me to interesting youtube videos. If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more accessible the page might be on Firefox. Now, I only try Firefox when I know there are form fields or other information I know should be there. I imagine there is a great deal more information that I don't even realize I am missing using IE 9. If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws or Firefox about it. Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws. Sherrie Gosling -Original Message- From: Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14 Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers and flash. You could try the html5 version of youtube at www.youtube.com/html5. As far as the other freezes go, I've found that the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update automatically. I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any better, but I kinda hate to break what is working. On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote: I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that websites that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9 don’t even show the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for these sites. I have been able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to make Firefox my default browser. But Firefox constantly freezes totally when it says it is being redirected to a different website. It says to press alt A or control A to proceed but this doesn’t work. It stops and only reads the title of the website. It will not close at all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going to file menu or using Jaws cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the window. I have to do a forced restart of the whole computer. I can’t even open a new tab of Firefox to finish what I was doing. Today it happened when I clicked on a youtube link. When I alt tab away from the frozen Firefox window and then back it only reads the title of the page. I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0. I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it out of necessity and it constantly freezes. I don’t know what is showing on the screen but in the window list is says minimized. Tried the alt space and x to maximize the window but no response. Jaws cursor does nothing either. I would really appreciate some advice from the group. IE 9 seems to do less and less for me and now comparing the same windows on IE and on Firefox it is really incredible that Firefox makes the websites so much more accessible. So I need Firefox!! Help, please. Sherrie Gosling For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked
[JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14
I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that websites that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9 don’t even show the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for these sites. I have been able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to make Firefox my default browser. But Firefox constantly freezes totally when it says it is being redirected to a different website. It says to press alt A or control A to proceed but this doesn’t work. It stops and only reads the title of the website. It will not close at all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going to file menu or using Jaws cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the window. I have to do a forced restart of the whole computer. I can’t even open a new tab of Firefox to finish what I was doing. Today it happened when I clicked on a youtube link. When I alt tab away from the frozen Firefox window and then back it only reads the title of the page. I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0. I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it out of necessity and it constantly freezes. I don’t know what is showing on the screen but in the window list is says minimized. Tried the alt space and x to maximize the window but no response. Jaws cursor does nothing either. I would really appreciate some advice from the group. IE 9 seems to do less and less for me and now comparing the same windows on IE and on Firefox it is really incredible that Firefox makes the websites so much more accessible. So I need Firefox!! Help, please. Sherrie Gosling For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14
Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers and flash. You could try the html5 version of youtube at www.youtube.com/html5. As far as the other freezes go, I've found that the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update automatically. I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any better, but I kinda hate to break what is working. On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote: I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that websites that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9 don’t even show the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for these sites. I have been able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to make Firefox my default browser. But Firefox constantly freezes totally when it says it is being redirected to a different website. It says to press alt A or control A to proceed but this doesn’t work. It stops and only reads the title of the website. It will not close at all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going to file menu or using Jaws cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the window. I have to do a forced restart of the whole computer. I can’t even open a new tab of Firefox to finish what I was doing. Today it happened when I clicked on a youtube link. When I alt tab away from the frozen Firefox window and then back it only reads the title of the page. I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0. I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it out of necessity and it constantly freezes. I don’t know what is showing on the screen but in the window list is says minimized. Tried the alt space and x to maximize the window but no response. Jaws cursor does nothing either. I would really appreciate some advice from the group. IE 9 seems to do less and less for me and now comparing the same windows on IE and on Firefox it is really incredible that Firefox makes the websites so much more accessible. So I need Firefox!! Help, please. Sherrie Gosling For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
