Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
Hi Victor, The, netplwiz, command takes you to the same place, so I would imagine being it's an easier command it's more popular. But, as you said your command will work as well. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Scorpio To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password I'm sorry. What happened to the "control userpasswords2" command? Is this not available on your computer? In case it is, the command is to user your run dialog box and type in the following without the quotes: "control userpasswords2" and press enter. You'll find a checkbox that states, users must enter a password to use this computer. Uncheck this box, and when you press apply, you'll be prompted to enter the username of the user that should always log on, and to type in their password. Confirm the password and press the ok button. I'm confused as to why no one suggested this? It's been the default command for this task for as long as I've owned a computer. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 10:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password if you are using win 10 1709, Build 16299.125 I think microsoft removed the users do not need a password to login I myself would like to do the same but cannot find the check box if you are not using build 125 it's in the users profile select your profile and look for a check box users do not need a password to login. sorry I cannot be of more help! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
It is still available if you wish to use it. Windows often offers more than a single method for accomplishing any given task. -Original Message- From: Scorpio Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 9:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password I'm sorry. What happened to the "control userpasswords2" command? Is this not available on your computer? In case it is, the command is to user your run dialog box and type in the following without the quotes: "control userpasswords2" and press enter. You'll find a checkbox that states, users must enter a password to use this computer. Uncheck this box, and when you press apply, you'll be prompted to enter the username of the user that should always log on, and to type in their password. Confirm the password and press the ok button. I'm confused as to why no one suggested this? It's been the default command for this task for as long as I've owned a computer. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 10:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password if you are using win 10 1709, Build 16299.125 I think microsoft removed the users do not need a password to login I myself would like to do the same but cannot find the check box if you are not using build 125 it's in the users profile select your profile and look for a check box users do not need a password to login. sorry I cannot be of more help! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
I don't know! guess I'm a dunce . -Original Message- From: Scorpio Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 6:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password I'm sorry. What happened to the "control userpasswords2" command? Is this not available on your computer? In case it is, the command is to user your run dialog box and type in the following without the quotes: "control userpasswords2" and press enter. You'll find a checkbox that states, users must enter a password to use this computer. Uncheck this box, and when you press apply, you'll be prompted to enter the username of the user that should always log on, and to type in their password. Confirm the password and press the ok button. I'm confused as to why no one suggested this? It's been the default command for this task for as long as I've owned a computer. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 10:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password if you are using win 10 1709, Build 16299.125 I think microsoft removed the users do not need a password to login I myself would like to do the same but cannot find the check box if you are not using build 125 it's in the users profile select your profile and look for a check box users do not need a password to login. sorry I cannot be of more help! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
I'm sorry. What happened to the "control userpasswords2" command? Is this not available on your computer? In case it is, the command is to user your run dialog box and type in the following without the quotes: "control userpasswords2" and press enter. You'll find a checkbox that states, users must enter a password to use this computer. Uncheck this box, and when you press apply, you'll be prompted to enter the username of the user that should always log on, and to type in their password. Confirm the password and press the ok button. I'm confused as to why no one suggested this? It's been the default command for this task for as long as I've owned a computer. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 10:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password if you are using win 10 1709, Build 16299.125 I think microsoft removed the users do not need a password to login I myself would like to do the same but cannot find the check box if you are not using build 125 it's in the users profile select your profile and look for a check box users do not need a password to login. sorry I cannot be of more help! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
thanks, forgot about typing netbooz -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 11:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi Kevin, This I got from others, so in a nutshell: 1. Open the Run dialogue with Windows key + R, type what's below, & press enter: netplwiz You can also type this in the search field in the start menu. 2. You'll be on the User Accounts dialog, select the user account that you want to turn off the password login for, and then uncheck labeled Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. 3. Tab to the Apply, button & press the spacebar, & it'll say something like Automatically sign in box. You'll need to type in your password, tab 1 time, type your password again to confirm your password, now tab to, Okay, & press enter. Restart your computer to see how it works. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Kevin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 4:55 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password those steps would be nice to know! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi Kevin, I am running the 1709 Build 16299.125, & Randy's steps worked just fine. What I was doing wrong was not putting in in my password & confirming it after pressing the apply button, & before pressing the okay button. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Kevin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password if you are using win 10 1709, Build 16299.125 I think microsoft removed the users do not need a password to login I myself would like to do the same but cannot find the check box if you are not using build 125 it's in the users profile select your profile and look for a check box users do not need a password to login. sorry I cannot be of more help! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
Hi Kevin, This I got from others, so in a nutshell: 1. Open the Run dialogue with Windows key + R, type what's below, & press enter: netplwiz You can also type this in the search field in the start menu. 2. You'll be on the User Accounts dialog, select the user account that you want to turn off the password login for, and then uncheck labeled Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. 3. Tab to the Apply, button & press the spacebar, & it'll say something like Automatically sign in box. You'll need to type in your password, tab 1 time, type your password again to confirm your password, now tab to, Okay, & press enter. Restart your computer to see how it works. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Kevin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 4:55 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password those steps would be nice to know! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi Kevin, I am running the 1709 Build 16299.125, & Randy's steps worked just fine. What I was doing wrong was not putting in in my password & confirming it after pressing the apply button, & before pressing the okay button. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Kevin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password if you are using win 10 1709, Build 16299.125 I think microsoft removed the users do not need a password to login I myself would like to do the same but cannot find the check box if you are not using build 125 it's in the users profile select your profile and look for a check box users do not need a password to login. sorry I cannot be of more help! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
With my new laptop, I configured Windows Hello for fingerprint recognition. All I need to do is to touch the fingerprint sensor to log in - there's no need to supply the user name or the password. This solution has the advantage of increased security (automatic log in is unacceptable in my situation), while avoiding the traditional user name/password entry requirement. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 10:06 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password windows key plus the letter R type netplwiz and hit enter from there follow the prompts. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 9:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
windows key plus the letter R type netplwiz and hit enter from there follow the prompts. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 9:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
How To Automatically Login In Windows 10 Want to quickly boot to your Windows 10 desktop by skipping the login screen? Would you like to avoid typing your account password each time you turn on your PC? You can configure Windows 10 to automatically boot to the desktop or Start screen. The core benefit of configuring Windows 10 to automatically sign-in is you don’t need to remember the password, which also means that you save a couple of seconds during the boot. This, in turn, means that Windows 10 boots to the Start screen or desktop a couple of seconds faster. The procedure to set up automatic logon in Windows 10 is very similar to the one in Windows 7 and Windows 8. This method is applicable to both local user account and Microsoft account. In other words, whether you’re using a Microsoft account or local user account, you can use this guide to enable automatic logon. WARNING: Enable automatic logon only if you are the sole user of your computer. If you often share your computer with others, others will be able to peek into your account without knowing the password. You can follow one of the methods given below to turn on automatic login in Windows 10. Method 1 of 2 Automatically logon without password This is the easiest way to automatically login to Windows 10 without entering the password. Step 1: First step is to open Run command box by simultaneously pressing Windows logo and R keys (Windows+R). In the Run dialog box, type Netplwiz and then press Enter key. Step 2: In the resulting User Accounts dialog, select your user account first and then uncheck the option labelled Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. Click Apply button to see Automatically sign in box. Step 3: In the Automatically sign in dialog, type your password and then re-enter the password to confirm the same. Finally, click OK button. Method 2 of 2 Turn on automatic sign-in using Registry If, for some reason, you’re not able to configure Windows 10 to automatically logon by following the above method, please use this method. Step 1: Open Registry Editor. To do so, type Regedit in the Start menu search box or Run command box and then press Enter key. Click Yes button when you see the UAC (User Account Control) box. Step 2: In the Registry Editor, navigate to the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon Step 3: On the right-side, look for the entry named DefaultUserName, double-click on it and make sure that your Microsoft account or local user account name is appearing under Value data box. Step 4: Next, on the right-side again, look for the entry named DefaultPassword. If the entry doesn’t exist, please create one by right-clicking on the empty space, clicking New and then clicking String Value. Rename it to DefaultPassword and enter your password in the Value data box. Click OK button. Step 5: Finally, you need to enable automatic logon. To do so, on the right-side (once again), look for the entry labelled AutoAdminLogon and then change its value from 0 (zero) to 1 (one). That’s it! Restart your PC to see your Windows 10 automatically logging into your account without asking you to enter the password. Good luck! Without a doubt, the second method is not as easy as the first one. Have fun with Windows 10! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
those steps would be nice to know! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 8:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi Kevin, I am running the 1709 Build 16299.125, & Randy's steps worked just fine. What I was doing wrong was not putting in in my password & confirming it after pressing the apply button, & before pressing the okay button. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Kevin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password if you are using win 10 1709, Build 16299.125 I think microsoft removed the users do not need a password to login I myself would like to do the same but cannot find the check box if you are not using build 125 it's in the users profile select your profile and look for a check box users do not need a password to login. sorry I cannot be of more help! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
Hi Kevin, I am running the 1709 Build 16299.125, & Randy's steps worked just fine. What I was doing wrong was not putting in in my password & confirming it after pressing the apply button, & before pressing the okay button. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Kevin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password if you are using win 10 1709, Build 16299.125 I think microsoft removed the users do not need a password to login I myself would like to do the same but cannot find the check box if you are not using build 125 it's in the users profile select your profile and look for a check box users do not need a password to login. sorry I cannot be of more help! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
if you are using win 10 1709, Build 16299.125 I think microsoft removed the users do not need a password to login I myself would like to do the same but cannot find the check box if you are not using build 125 it's in the users profile select your profile and look for a check box users do not need a password to login. sorry I cannot be of more help! -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password
Hi All, I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018. How do I set-up Windows 10 so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer? I would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop. All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/