Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[LeDon]

What is boot camp?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

hello,
the best windos 10 laptop is a MacBook Pro with Bootcamp. all you are
getting is windows, and drivers for mac hardware.  I use bootcamp a lot, and
have no issues.
Daniel


On 6/14/17, Tammy Freitag <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one 
> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of 
> others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my 
> questions; 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the 
> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before 
> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs 
> taking up space.
>
> These will do for a start.
> Thanks for your input!
>
>
> --
> Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
> Tammy
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[wayne smith]

Where did you get those machines at those prices?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hi all,
I have two laptops. I own an Asus laptop, and it has 8 GB of ram, Bluetooth,
it is very fast, and I bought it for $250.00. My other laptop is an HP
Stream 11, and I can hold it in one hand. It only costs $179.00. It has a
SSD drive, and I use my small External Drive for more space. I love them
both, but I would go for the Asus, because it is so powerful for the price.
I have used it a lot for four years, and it still runs like a top. It
origionally came with Windows 8.1, and I have kept up to date with the
Creators update of win10 now on it.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

the problem with a refresh;at least with dells is they use there own
propriatary drivers. so in many cases the microsoft version of windows may
not have drivers for the model you have.
now if dell had the same service. where  you could do the same thing but
download the version for your model to do the refresh that would be great.

-Original Message-
From: Audiobookfan
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
*strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2 Windows
laptops for the price of a macBook.

I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer Intel
over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I really,
really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in an external
1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.

I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth, so
that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with my
laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.

As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of Windows
built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows Refresh or
something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and does a
complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows apps. All
other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all bloatware. I think
this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they launched Windows. I know
if I were buying a new computer, the first thing I'd do is bring it home and
run a Windows Refresh, giving me a nice clean Windows to begin setting up.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very
satisfied. 
> I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard 
> most of the time.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
> small things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
>> Tammy:
>>
>> As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. 
>> Myself, however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric 
>> keypad (I am assuming that there is a choice between having one, and 
>> not having one). My reason for this is that it is easier for me to do 
>> some of the JAWS keys with the numeric keypad, than having to learn 
>> the different keystrokes without one. But as I said, that is my 
>> preference. I have always used a Dell, so I cannot compare it with
others. Hope this helps.
>> Jerry
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Tammy Freitag
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't 
>> one perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and 
>> experiences of others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here 
>> are my questions; 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
>> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
>> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the 
>> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before 
>> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible 
>> programs taking up space.
>>
>> These will do for a start.
>> Thanks for your input!
>

Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

I am also going to buy a laptop, that is Lenovo Thinkpad x270. This is
a small laptop of 12.5 inches screen size, and have pretty good
spects. I am not aware of its compatibility with jaws though. But I am
a jaws user and hope jaws will work on it since it has windows 10.

On 6/15/17, David Moore <jesusloves1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have two laptops. I own an Asus laptop, and it has 8 GB of ram, Bluetooth,
> it is very fast, and I bought it for $250.00. My other laptop is an HP
> Stream 11, and I can hold it in one hand. It only costs $179.00. It has a
> SSD drive, and I use my small External Drive for more space. I love them
> both, but I would go for the Asus, because it is so powerful for the price.
> I have used it a lot for four years, and it still runs like a top. It
> origionally came with Windows 8.1, and I have kept up to date with the
> Creators update of win10 now on it.
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: net bat66
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:35 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>
> the problem with a refresh;at least with dells is they use there own
> propriatary drivers. so in many cases the microsoft version of windows may
> not
> have drivers for the model you have.
> now if dell had the same service. where  you could do the same thing but
> download the version for your model to do the refresh that would be great.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Audiobookfan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:41 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>
> I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
> *strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
> laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2
> Windows laptops for the price of a macBook.
>
> I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer
> Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I
> really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in
> an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.
>
> I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
> laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth,
> so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with
> my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.
>
> As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
> version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of
> Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows
> Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and
> does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows
> apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all
> bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they
> launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first
> thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a
> nice clean Windows to begin setting up.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
>> I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very
>> satisfied.
>> I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard most
>> of
>> the time.
>>
>>
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
>>
>> things, it does not exist at all.
>>
>> On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
>>> Tammy:
>>>
>>> As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself,
>>> however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am
>>>
>>> assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one).
>>> My
>>> reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys
>>> with
>>> the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without
>>>
>>> one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so
>>> I
>>> cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list
>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
>>> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences 

Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[David Moore]

Hi all,
I have two laptops. I own an Asus laptop, and it has 8 GB of ram, Bluetooth, it 
is very fast, and I bought it for $250.00. My other laptop is an HP Stream 11, 
and I can hold it in one hand. It only costs $179.00. It has a SSD drive, and I 
use my small External Drive for more space. I love them both, but I would go 
for the Asus, because it is so powerful for the price. I have used it a lot for 
four years, and it still runs like a top. It origionally came with Windows 8.1, 
and I have kept up to date with the Creators update of win10 now on it.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

the problem with a refresh;at least with dells is they use there own 
propriatary drivers. so in many cases the microsoft version of windows may not 
have drivers for the model you have.
now if dell had the same service. where  you could do the same thing but 
download the version for your model to do the refresh that would be great.

-Original Message- 
From: Audiobookfan
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
*strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2
Windows laptops for the price of a macBook.

I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer
Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I
really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in
an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.

I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth,
so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with
my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.

As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of
Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows
Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and
does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows
apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all
bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they
launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first
thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a
nice clean Windows to begin setting up.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very satisfied. 
> I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard most of 
> the time.
>
>
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
> things, it does not exist at all.
>
> On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
>> Tammy:
>>
>> As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
>> however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am 
>> assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My 
>> reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with 
>> the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without 
>> one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I 
>> cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.
>> Jerry
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Tammy Freitag
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
>> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
>> others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
>> questions;
>> 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
>> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
>> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
>> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
>> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
>> taking up space.
>>
>> These will do for a start.
>> Thanks for your input!
>>
>>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[net bat66]

the problem with a refresh;at least with dells is they use there own 
propriatary drivers. so in many cases the microsoft version of windows may not 
have drivers for the model you have.
now if dell had the same service. where  you could do the same thing but 
download the version for your model to do the refresh that would be great.


-Original Message- 
From: Audiobookfan

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
*strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2
Windows laptops for the price of a macBook.

I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer
Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I
really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in
an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.

I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth,
so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with
my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.

As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of
Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows
Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and
does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows
apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all
bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they
launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first
thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a
nice clean Windows to begin setting up.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very satisfied. 
I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard most of 
the time.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.


On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am 
assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My 
reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with 
the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without 
one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I 
cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.

Jerry

-Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Annette Carr]

Hi Tammy,

I have primarily used Toshiba and Dell.  Others in my house have used HP,
although not with JAWS.  In my opinion, all 3 brands have been very
reliable.  With that said, my husband had a Toshiba and it was nothing but
trouble.

I have used laptops for nearly 30 years.  None of them have had a separate
number pad from the keyboard.  With my very first laptop, I attempted to use
an external number pad, and could never find one that allowed me to execute
JAWS commands.  As a result I have learned to use the embedded number pad,
and have the JAWS Keyboard layout set to Desktop.  Sometimes this does
require interesting finger gymnastics, but it works for me. 

When I'm looking for a new laptop, I look for the one that provides me with
the most up-to-date features for the lowest cost.  Yes, this probably means
that I will spend more money than I want, but I've always gotten 5 plus
years out of my laptops.  I also look for the lightest weight one with a
keyboard that feels right under my fingers, i.e. shape and size of the keys,
spacing between keys, and firmness when activating.  Finally, battery life
is a factor as well.  

With my current Toshiba dinosaur, I've gotten spoiled by a button between
the keyboard and the mouse that allows me to turn the mouse on and off as
needed.  My work Dell laptop requires me to use a keyboard command to turn
the mouse pad on and off, and that is not so bad.  As much as I would love
to say that I can tackle everything and anything on my computer without some
sighted help here and there, that is just not the case.  So being able to
turn the mouse on and off as needed is very convenient.

Many many years ago I bought one of my computers from MicroCenter and their
service was great.  They removed all of the junk and even installed JAWS for
me.  Another family member went there a number of years later and was not
happy with the service.  The last time I checked, their prices were higher
than Best Buy where I've bought the past 2 computers over the past 11 years.
Also with the last 2 purchases, I used the Dell and the Toshiba technical
support.  Both were very good at that time.  The Toshiba tech support
figured out how to turn off the "touch sensitive control panel so that I
could not accidently turn things on and off.  Now with the Microsoft
Disability Support line, you have another source for help.  Although
sometimes having all of these support options can get you in a position
where they each point the finger at the other one to address the problem.

Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.  My current Toshiba is now
six and a half years old, so I'm sure a replacement is not too far around
the corner.

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my questions; 1.
Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the shelf
or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before because I
didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs taking up
space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


--
Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Kelly Ford]

My most recent personal laptop is an ASUS.  If you are comfortable with
using the JAWS laptop layout, I really enjoy this machine.  It isn't a touch
device but has a great feel on your lap and the weight of the device is so
incredible to feel that such a powerful device is so not heavy.  Most
importantly for me, typing on the keyboard feels solid.

To be clear this machine isn't for everyone.  It has a smaller screen but my
goals were powerful performance in the smallest machine I could find.

I bought it from Amazon originally.  The model I purchased doesn't seem to
be available from Amazon but maybe there is a newer model.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LHUAFAQ/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF
8=1



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Washington
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Iagree about Dell laptop computers being a good pick.  I loved Toshiba
laptops but they no longer make laptops.  I have a year old Dell Inspiron
5559 and have had no problems with it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Dell.
Get one with a separate numpad, which means a 15-inch display. Get one off
the shelf. Get one with as much hard drive space as you can afford, and then

double that.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tammy Freitag" <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com>
To: "jaws-users-list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:41
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions


Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


-- 
Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Jason White]

I use a Lenovo P50S laptop for work that has a keyboard with a numeric keypad.
I know JAWS can be switched to laptop layout, but I prefer having the extra
keys just for use with screen readers. JAWS is fast and responsive on this
laptop with a braille display (Focus 40 Blue) and Vocalizer Expressive speech,
as long as nothing crashes, as some applications unfortunately tend to do.

I recently bought a similar laptop to use at home - a Lenovo P51. I can't
comment yet, as it's still on the way. 

Audiobookfan <listening...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would
> *strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows
> laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2 Windows
> laptops for the price of a macBook.
> 
> I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer Intel
> over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I really,
> really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in an external
> 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.
> 
> I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the
> laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth, so
> that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with my
> laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.
> 
> As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next
> version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of Windows
> built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows Refresh or
> something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and does a
> complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows apps. All
> other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all bloatware. I think
> this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they launched Windows. I know
> if I were buying a new computer, the first thing I'd do is bring it home and
> run a Windows Refresh, giving me a nice clean Windows to begin setting up.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> > I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very
> > satisfied.  I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external
> > keyboard most of the time.
> > 
> > 
> > lucky1i...@gmail.com Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is
> > not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
> > 
> > On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:
> > > Tammy:
> > > 
> > > As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference.  Myself,
> > > however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am
> > > assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one).
> > > My reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS
> > > keys with the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different
> > > keystrokes without one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have
> > > always used a Dell, so I cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.
> > > Jerry
> > > 
> > > -Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag Sent: Wednesday, June 14,
> > > 2017 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
> > > 
> > > Hello, I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there
> > > isn't one perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and
> > > experiences of others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here
> > > are my questions; 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?  2.  What
> > > brand would you totally avoid? Why??  3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be
> > > better to purchase a system off the shelf or have one custom built?  I
> > > have had them custom built before because I didn't want all of the games
> > > and extra unaccessible programs taking up space.
> > > 
> > > These will do for a start.  Thanks for your input!
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Greg Washington]

Iagree about Dell laptop computers being a good pick.  I loved Toshiba
laptops but they no longer make laptops.  I have a year old Dell Inspiron
5559 and have had no problems with it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Dell.
Get one with a separate numpad, which means a 15-inch display. Get one off 
the shelf. Get one with as much hard drive space as you can afford, and then

double that.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Tammy Freitag" <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com>
To: "jaws-users-list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:41
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions


Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Audiobookfan]

I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would 
*strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows 
laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2 
Windows laptops for the price of a macBook.


I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer 
Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I 
really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in 
an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast.


I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the 
laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth, 
so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with 
my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though.


As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next 
version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of 
Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows 
Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and 
does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows 
apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all 
bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they 
launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first 
thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a 
nice clean Windows to begin setting up.


Hope this helps.

Jeff

On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very 
satisfied.  I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external 
keyboard most of the time.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in 
small things, it does not exist at all.


On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I 
am assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having 
one). My reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the 
JAWS keys with the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different 
keystrokes without one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have 
always used a Dell, so I cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.

Jerry

-Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Dave ...]

Dell.
Get one with a separate numpad, which means a 15-inch display. Get one off 
the shelf. Get one with as much hard drive space as you can afford, and then 
double that.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Tammy Freitag" <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com>
To: "jaws-users-list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:41
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions


Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


-- 
Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[net bat66]

the one thing with dells is you have to make sure the keyboard has a numb lock 
key. for some reason a few years ago dell decided we didn't need the numlock 
key anymore. so you have to request it when you buy there computers.


-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself,
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am
assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My
reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with
the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without
one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I
cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.
Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: Tammy Freitag

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


--
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Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[David Ferrin]

Lenovo systems have served my needs quite well for a long period of time 
already.


I got a new one and a couple refurbished from Amazon and even the model I 
got in 2009 is still working along with the rest of them.


-Original Message- 
From: Tammy Freitag

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


--
Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Steve]

I will start by saying it isn't really an option to "customize" a laptop. 
They're not nearly as easy to swap boards  in and out as you can with a 
desktop.


If you don't want to screw around with getting rid of all the unwanted 
software and games that come on most commercial laptops, you can look on the 
Microsoft site for I think they call them certified or something.


Another option is to find a listing on sites like Ebay that advertise a 
clean install of Windows 10 with no other bloatware.


At one time, I would say avoid Acers, they used to have more hardware issues 
andd their support wasn't very good.  That may have changed lately.


Personally, I have used HP for my last few leptops.

The main thing with a laptop is to get some hands-on experience with it. 
Unlike desktops, their keyboard layout and feel can vary quite a bit between 
different brands or models.



- Original Message - 
From: "Tammy Freitag" <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com>

To: "jaws-users-list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:41 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions



Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


--
Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[wayne smith]

Which version of JAWS are you using with your Mac?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

hello,
the best windos 10 laptop is a MacBook Pro with Bootcamp. all you are
getting is windows, and drivers for mac hardware.  I use bootcamp a lot, and
have no issues.
Daniel


On 6/14/17, Tammy Freitag <ms.sunflowe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one 
> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of 
> others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my 
> questions; 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the 
> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before 
> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs 
> taking up space.
>
> These will do for a start.
> Thanks for your input!
>
>
> --
> Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
> Tammy
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Maria Campbell]

I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very 
satisfied.  I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external 
keyboard most of the time.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I 
am assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having 
one). My reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the 
JAWS keys with the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different 
keystrokes without one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have 
always used a Dell, so I cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.

Jerry

-Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[jyandt.martin]

Tammy:

As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, 
however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am 
assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My 
reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with 
the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without 
one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I 
cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps.

Jerry

-Original Message- 
From: Tammy Freitag

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


--
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Tammy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Daniel MacDonald]

hello,
the best windos 10 laptop is a MacBook Pro with Bootcamp. all you are
getting is windows, and drivers for mac hardware.  I use bootcamp a
lot, and have no issues.
Daniel


On 6/14/17, Tammy Freitag  wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
> perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
> others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
> questions;
> 1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
> 2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
> 3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
> shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
> because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
> taking up space.
>
> These will do for a start.
> Thanks for your input!
>
>
> --
> Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
> Tammy
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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[JAWS-Users] laptop questions

[Tammy Freitag]

Hello,
I am looking for opinions about laptop brands.  I know there isn't one
perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of
others.  I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop.  Here are my
questions;
1.  Which brand would you recommend? Why?
2.  What brand would you totally avoid? Why??
3.  Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the
shelf or have one custom built?  I have had them custom built before
because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs
taking up space.

These will do for a start.
Thanks for your input!


-- 
Independence is yours .  Are you willing to reach for it?
Tammy

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