Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
It's just after 7:00 in the morning, if this is still going on by 9:00 I guess we could start removing people for not following the guidelines. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
Not on here guys, take it off list as I noticed Rick has asked you to do a couple of times already. Don't give me more work on my day off than I already have. -Original Message- From: TheHangMan Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Allan, I just switch from Comcast to Verizon fios new package dealand they too supplied their own Modem. The rental is $12 a month and for more than 3 TVs, it would require an additional box. What a ripp off! I also just wanted to run my own personel router wifi and I bought an Linksys18642 Wireless for $100 at Walmart and the only way is to buy a ethernet cable about 100 feet long and connected to the modome.. I think, the best way is to tap into a un secure router or go to a food joint and use their service. TC, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 7:00 PM To: Jaws-Users-List <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
The leasing program for cable and satelite company's is a sweet deal for them. That monthly fee is pretty much pure profet for them. That and the hardware is going to be outdated. You're going to be better off simply purchasing your own equipment. It'll pay for itself most likely after the first year and almost always be more up to date than what they installed for you. When I signed up for DSL with TWC, I got the first year of the modem useage free, but after that, they started to charge me $6 a month in rental fees. I said forget that noise. I just got my own Surfboard 6141 Docsis 3.0 modem on sale for around $65 and returned their old docsis 2.0 modem. That was over two years ago. If you've got issues with bad service already, then what do you have to lose by getting your own equipment? It may even help. I know for other service companies like the cable or landline, unless you're paying for some sort of monthly maintenance, then they're going to charge you a pretty penny to actually come out to your house to trouble shoot anything. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one well even when you are renting the router from the company they won't come to your home to check what's wrong. I've had countless of problems called the company and they never came out to check what is wrong, they always fixed it over the phone. or it seemed it was fixed. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:00 PM To: Jaws-Users-List Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
Kevin, They will come out here, but even if they fix via phone, they are not going to log into the router and mess around if it is not their equipment. This is what is causing my concern about purchasing one. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 7:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one well even when you are renting the router from the company they won't come to your home to check what's wrong. I've had countless of problems called the company and they never came out to check what is wrong, they always fixed it over the phone. or it seemed it was fixed. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:00 PM To: Jaws-Users-List Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
Please take this discussion off-list, it is not relevant toJaws. Thank you, Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: "Alan Robbins" <alan1...@me.com> To: "Jaws-Users-List" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 7:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
Recommend you purchase the router, but pay a monthly wiring insurance fee and then they can only blame the router, which you can replace yourself -- an likely at a lower cost than all the lease charges you're paying. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Alan Robbins" <alan1...@me.com> To: "Jaws-Users-List" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 04:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
Allan, I just switch from Comcast to Verizon fios new package dealand they too supplied their own Modem. The rental is $12 a month and for more than 3 TVs, it would require an additional box. What a ripp off! I also just wanted to run my own personel router wifi and I bought an Linksys18642 Wireless for $100 at Walmart and the only way is to buy a ethernet cable about 100 feet long and connected to the modome.. I think, the best way is to tap into a un secure router or go to a food joint and use their service. TC, Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 7:00 PM To: Jaws-Users-List <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
Probably, they will or at least the first-level techs might. That's an easy fallback. But, remember, your router only handles the distribution of your internet signal; it still has to come in through your cable modem. Usually, if you are having an issue with internet that is really a cable signal issue, you may see issues with your other services. Also, sometimes the tech support people can see connection quality issues from their end. Just a second consideration Just getting a router isn't going to solve your equipment rental charge. What you may need is a cable modem. Those are a bit more expensive than the run-of-the-mill router, of course. You'll need to check with your cable company for compatibility before you purchase a cable modem. Some of the cable modems that are/were highly recommended like the Motorola Arris SB6141 are nearing their end-of-life cycle although Comcast plans to still support them for customers who've purchased one for themselves; but they are going to replace the ones they provide. Also, if you have phone service through your cable company, these modems will not support that. If you have Charter, I think their modem rental is part of the bill, so you won't save any money converting. Steve - Original Message - From: Alan Robbins To: Jaws-Users-List Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 7:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
well even when you are renting the router from the company they won't come to your home to check what's wrong. I've had countless of problems called the company and they never came out to check what is wrong, they always fixed it over the phone. or it seemed it was fixed. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:00 PM To: Jaws-Users-List Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one
Sorry Rick, didn't see your message until after I sent out my reply. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Moderator Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 8:43 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Please take this discussion off-list, it is not relevant toJaws. Thank you, Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: "Alan Robbins" <alan1...@me.com> To: "Jaws-Users-List" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 7:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] leasing a router versus purchasing one Years ago I owned a Linksys router for our home network. Then, we decided to bundle our phone service with internet & TV. The cable company then installed their router and all things functioned through the router. At that time the router was simply part of the equipment and there was no additional cost for having it. Quite some time back, they started charging a monthly leasing fee. At first it was only $3. Over time it went to $5, then $8 and now it is going to $10 per month. My question is I know there are very good routers out there. What I'm interested in hearing from folks that own one is when you are having any type connectivity issues, does your cable provider simply blame your purchased router and state the problem is with that or do they actually come to the house and inspect the cables etc. Over the years I have had trouble with their router and the cable lines/connections. I know if one chooses to purchase their own router, the cable company will not touch it. So, what I'm fearful of is if I have trouble, they are automatically going to say it is the purchased router and there is nothing they can do to correct the issue. Al For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
