Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1
Okay, if Vipre is no good, which anti-virus program can you suggest that is compatibel with JAWS and is not a hassle to uninstall? People on other lists have reporteddifficulty getting the latest versions of AVG and Avast to work with JAWS, and also trouble removing them. Gerald - Original Message - From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 Well, the reviews I've read as well as comparison tests aren't that great for Viper. It only caught 74 percent of test viruses, compared to Norton and Kasperski which were at 89 percent, and AVG Free which was at 87 percent. Several people have had difficulty getting the installation to work on infected systems. See http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410465,00.asp for a review of Viper 2013. Steve - Original Message - From: Liuda Balcius balciu...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 I also swear by Vipre and it is amazingly accessible with JAWS 12. I've had it for 4 years now and never one problem. I bought it for 2 years and have to worry less about it for a while. I love the automatic updates. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message - not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there's no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
I was under the impression that Windows Defender was taking the place of Microsoft Security Essentials, and that the basic program hadn't changed, only the name, but the protection was essentially the same. Is that not true anymore? Scorpio -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 No, you can't run two anti-virus programs together. They will potentially conflict. You can run another malware program for anti-spyware but not another anti-virus program unless you disable the other anti-virus program. If you want a decent malware program, get malwareBytes from malbytes.org Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
I use Windows Defender, but did try Vipre just for grins though. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of dan Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
MSSE is Windows Defender in Windows 8.1. As the Prego guy says It's already in d'ere. - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
No, you can't run two anti-virus programs together. They will potentially conflict. You can run another malware program for anti-spyware but not another anti-virus program unless you disable the other anti-virus program. If you want a decent malware program, get malwareBytes from malbytes.org Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
I am using vipre and it works well. I have been using it for around four years first on XP Wind. 7 and now on win. 8.1. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Is it as good as HSN makes it out to be, they say it's so updated nothing can get threw because heck as you and I are talking right now it's being updated with new dephinitions. So almost nothing can get threw. Why it's so strong that the always depicted as Darth Vader IRS uses it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I am using vipre and it works well. I have been using it for around four years first on XP Wind. 7 and now on win. 8.1. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1
I also swear by Vipre and it is amazingly accessible with JAWS 12. I've had it for 4 years now and never one problem. I bought it for 2 years and have to worry less about it for a while. I love the automatic updates. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message - not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there's no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
I wouldn't go that far, no one program will catch them all. It may have a lower instance of infections, but not fool-proof. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1
Okay, cool. Yeah, it is accessable. I tried it, but the trial wasn't enough to really tell if it was so strong. Especially as strong as HSN makes it out to be. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Liuda Balcius Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 I also swear by Vipre and it is amazingly accessible with JAWS 12. I've had it for 4 years now and never one problem. I bought it for 2 years and have to worry less about it for a while. I love the automatic updates. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message - not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there's no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Then why would HSN say that? Seriously they make it like it's Gojira. Nothing gets passed it. I don't know maybe it's just me taking it as if they exaggerate it that way. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I wouldn't go that far, no one program will catch them all. It may have a lower instance of infections, but not fool-proof. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
HSN? Is that Home Shopping Network? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Then why would HSN say that? Seriously they make it like it's Gojira. Nothing gets passed it. I don't know maybe it's just me taking it as if they exaggerate it that way. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I wouldn't go that far, no one program will catch them all. It may have a lower instance of infections, but not fool-proof. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
That's correct. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 HSN? Is that Home Shopping Network? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Then why would HSN say that? Seriously they make it like it's Gojira. Nothing gets passed it. I don't know maybe it's just me taking it as if they exaggerate it that way. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I wouldn't go that far, no one program will catch them all. It may have a lower instance of infections, but not fool-proof. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
They cell it sometimes. Especially with new computers. But yeah, they talk it up like I said. Like it's the Gojira of antivirus programs. The cool thing is they got some deal where it's like DVD Audio Extractor. You buy it once and never again. You get the new virsions free. Very cool. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 HSN? Is that Home Shopping Network? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Then why would HSN say that? Seriously they make it like it's Gojira. Nothing gets passed it. I don't know maybe it's just me taking it as if they exaggerate it that way. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I wouldn't go that far, no one program will catch them all. It may have a lower instance of infections, but not fool-proof. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 Vipre
Rick is correct about nothing protects all computers against all threats all of the time. I think you have heard the opinions of others and either you wish to get adventurous and try it out yourself or there is no way for you to have the full benefits of the paid version unless YOU purchase it yourself, one way or another. Only my two cents. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:43 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 Okay, cool. Yeah, it is accessable. I tried it, but the trial wasn't enough to really tell if it was so strong. Especially as strong as HSN makes it out to be. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Liuda Balcius Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 I also swear by Vipre and it is amazingly accessible with JAWS 12. I've had it for 4 years now and never one problem. I bought it for 2 years and have to worry less about it for a while. I love the automatic updates. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message - not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there's no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Hi Hamit, That's what I thought. Their in business to sell products, so they are using this particular software to help entice the consumer to spend money. Now, I am not saying that is bad, and I am certainly no security expert, and these are just my views and opinions. I am not trying to shoot down the product by any means, just want people to be clear that there is no perfect security solution. I do not pay for security software for 2 reasons: 1. Historically speaking when something comes along that works well with Jaws, that aspect is lost over time with software updates. 2. The average computer user has no idea whether or not the security software is actually doing what is advertised, other than the fact they aren't having any problems, which could also be due to safe computing practices. So paying for one doesn't guarantee that it will necessarily do a better job. Find one that is highly recommended in the Security community, is accessible with Jaws, and doesn't rob your computer's resources. And, if it is free, that's a bonus! HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 That's correct. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 HSN? Is that Home Shopping Network? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Then why would HSN say that? Seriously they make it like it's Gojira. Nothing gets passed it. I don't know maybe it's just me taking it as if they exaggerate it that way. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I wouldn't go that far, no one program will catch them all. It may have a lower instance of infections, but not fool-proof. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message –
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1
Well, the reviews I've read as well as comparison tests aren't that great for Viper. It only caught 74 percent of test viruses, compared to Norton and Kasperski which were at 89 percent, and AVG Free which was at 87 percent. Several people have had difficulty getting the installation to work on infected systems. See http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410465,00.asp for a review of Viper 2013. Steve - Original Message - From: Liuda Balcius balciu...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 I also swear by Vipre and it is amazingly accessible with JAWS 12. I've had it for 4 years now and never one problem. I bought it for 2 years and have to worry less about it for a while. I love the automatic updates. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message - not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there's no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
I don't think any body can make that claim. There is always a chance but I know that it has worked for me -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
All I can say is I have nad no problems at all. If it suspects a bad program it will delete automatically. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Is it as good as HSN makes it out to be, they say it's so updated nothing can get threw because heck as you and I are talking right now it's being updated with new dephinitions. So almost nothing can get threw. Why it's so strong that the always depicted as Darth Vader IRS uses it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I am using vipre and it works well. I have been using it for around four years first on XP Wind. 7 and now on win. 8.1. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Okay cool. I was just curirous is all. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I don't think any body can make that claim. There is always a chance but I know that it has worked for me -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Then there could be some truth to what they say then. I mean, if it just auto gets rid of stuff, then yeah. Interesting. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 All I can say is I have nad no problems at all. If it suspects a bad program it will delete automatically. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Is it as good as HSN makes it out to be, they say it's so updated nothing can get threw because heck as you and I are talking right now it's being updated with new dephinitions. So almost nothing can get threw. Why it's so strong that the always depicted as Darth Vader IRS uses it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I am using vipre and it works well. I have been using it for around four years first on XP Wind. 7 and now on win. 8.1. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message – not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there’s no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1
Interesting. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 Well, the reviews I've read as well as comparison tests aren't that great for Viper. It only caught 74 percent of test viruses, compared to Norton and Kasperski which were at 89 percent, and AVG Free which was at 87 percent. Several people have had difficulty getting the installation to work on infected systems. See http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410465,00.asp for a review of Viper 2013. Steve - Original Message - From: Liuda Balcius balciu...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 I also swear by Vipre and it is amazingly accessible with JAWS 12. I've had it for 4 years now and never one problem. I bought it for 2 years and have to worry less about it for a while. I love the automatic updates. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message - not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there's no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
Well, about them saying that just to make money being bad goes, problem is that they also always clame that they can't legally say stuff that aint true. So I guess some one should be in at least some trouble because it ain't the Godzilla antivirus they make it out to be from other later messages I've read. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:17 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Hamit, That's what I thought. Their in business to sell products, so they are using this particular software to help entice the consumer to spend money. Now, I am not saying that is bad, and I am certainly no security expert, and these are just my views and opinions. I am not trying to shoot down the product by any means, just want people to be clear that there is no perfect security solution. I do not pay for security software for 2 reasons: 1. Historically speaking when something comes along that works well with Jaws, that aspect is lost over time with software updates. 2. The average computer user has no idea whether or not the security software is actually doing what is advertised, other than the fact they aren't having any problems, which could also be due to safe computing practices. So paying for one doesn't guarantee that it will necessarily do a better job. Find one that is highly recommended in the Security community, is accessible with Jaws, and doesn't rob your computer's resources. And, if it is free, that's a bonus! HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 That's correct. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 HSN? Is that Home Shopping Network? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Then why would HSN say that? Seriously they make it like it's Gojira. Nothing gets passed it. I don't know maybe it's just me taking it as if they exaggerate it that way. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I wouldn't go that far, no one program will catch them all. It may have a lower instance of infections, but not fool-proof. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1
I mean, someone said that ssome tests showed it caught 75% of stuff I think it was. So it aint true. They make it sound like it's 100 10% of stuff. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:17 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Hamit, That's what I thought. Their in business to sell products, so they are using this particular software to help entice the consumer to spend money. Now, I am not saying that is bad, and I am certainly no security expert, and these are just my views and opinions. I am not trying to shoot down the product by any means, just want people to be clear that there is no perfect security solution. I do not pay for security software for 2 reasons: 1. Historically speaking when something comes along that works well with Jaws, that aspect is lost over time with software updates. 2. The average computer user has no idea whether or not the security software is actually doing what is advertised, other than the fact they aren't having any problems, which could also be due to safe computing practices. So paying for one doesn't guarantee that it will necessarily do a better job. Find one that is highly recommended in the Security community, is accessible with Jaws, and doesn't rob your computer's resources. And, if it is free, that's a bonus! HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 That's correct. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 HSN? Is that Home Shopping Network? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Then why would HSN say that? Seriously they make it like it's Gojira. Nothing gets passed it. I don't know maybe it's just me taking it as if they exaggerate it that way. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 I wouldn't go that far, no one program will catch them all. It may have a lower instance of infections, but not fool-proof. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able
Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 Vipre
Oh, I have, but the trial didn't go deap enough in my book to really say if it was the Godzilla those guys at HSN were making it out to be. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Liuda Balcius Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 7:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 Vipre Rick is correct about nothing protects all computers against all threats all of the time. I think you have heard the opinions of others and either you wish to get adventurous and try it out yourself or there is no way for you to have the full benefits of the paid version unless YOU purchase it yourself, one way or another. Only my two cents. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:43 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 Okay, cool. Yeah, it is accessable. I tried it, but the trial wasn't enough to really tell if it was so strong. Especially as strong as HSN makes it out to be. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Liuda Balcius Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 6:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti-virus on windows 8.1 I also swear by Vipre and it is amazingly accessible with JAWS 12. I've had it for 4 years now and never one problem. I bought it for 2 years and have to worry less about it for a while. I love the automatic updates. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Cool. But is it like they say? Can you really not get anything? Does it absolutely catch everything like they say? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of steve alspach Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Viper is very good. Steve - Original Message - From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 What third party antivirus is good, can you run that and mse too? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greenlee Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi! I am using a third party anti-virus software and have been for a long time and I am using windows 8.1. No problems here. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 Hi Dan, MSE only works up to Windows 7, and Windows 8 uses Windows Defender. Not using Windows 8 right now, but don't see any reason why other security software can't be used. Others actively using Win8 will be able to advise you better than me. HTH, Rick Justice People say I'm crazy,... but it's the only way I know to maintain my sanity! - Original Message - From: dan oxo...@hotmail.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] no need for third party anti virus on windows 8.1 hi all, i tried to install mseon my win 8.1 laptop and got the message - not compatable already built into os. apparently, the built in mse has been re-designed and there's no need for third party AV any thoughts? those using win8.1 have u installed any av? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
