Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
I had issues opening link with IE and lately FF. I believe FF updated and some state new update troublesome with speech. Chrome I could read it. I am using Jaws 2018 and W10. The link is race results from a rowing regatta with over 2000 boats. https://www.herenow.com/results/#/races/20420/results Any help appreciated. Thanks Brian. Like I guess this is HTML code? g Ann -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, A nonbreaking space is used to keep text together. When used between two words instead of a regular space the two words can be forced to be at the beginning or end of the same line. Nonbreaking spaces can also be used to produce different alignment of text on the same line. The code you would enter on the number pad while holding down Alt key is 0160. You can enter a nonbreaking space by holding down CTRL with shift keys and pressing spacebar. The nonbreaking spaces should not be removed when replacing paragraph marks with tabs. You don't want to replace nonbreaking spaces with tabs because when converting to a table using tabs as column dividers you will end up with unwanted columns and text that is meant to be together in the same column being separated into different columns. I went to the web site you sent me and I think I found a way to get the information pasted with vertical bars dividing the columns. When pasted in Word I think the text can then be converted into a table and the vertical bars used as column dividers or they can be changed to tabs that can be used as column dividers. The site is quite difficult to navigate and copying information isn't really a straightforward process. Perhaps you can send the link to this list and see if someone else can offer a way to handle it. I will Email you privately as well but I won't be able to spend time on this until later tomorrow. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 15, 2017 4:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Brian, I cannot seem to get the procedure you have after word instead. There is a non breaking space code 160. When I replace ^013 to ^t the non breaking 160 also changes to a tab. Any possibility I can replace 160 with I believe is a page break then change do 013 to tab? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, If you press number 5 on the number pad three times quickly when number lock is off you get a numeric code for the current character. The code given is 13. However, you actually need to use 013. The 13 is the code initially used as a carriage return. If you turn the number lock on, hold down Alt and type 13 on the number pad followed by a space, you will likely get an 8th note. (♪). Instead you turn on the number lock, hold down Alt while typing 013 and you get the paragraph mark. If using 013 in a Find and Replace dialog box in Word you would need to put a caret (shift on 6) before the numbers. However, using caret followed by a lower case p does the same thing. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 14, 2017 3:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Brian how did you figure out that it was a paragraph marker? Is there a place I can find the paragraph or tab equivalent. Maybe hexadecimal is not the way to go. -Original Message- From: Ann M Medlar [mailto:amedl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Brian, As always thank you. I tried to find these values. How did you know that it is a paragraph mark? I did find that Notepad has a hex converter but had no idea how to add on this plug in. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, The character at the end of each line except the bottom line is a paragraph mark. To replace it in Word you can use a caret (shift key with 6) followed by a lower case p. In the Replace With box you can use caret mark followed immediately by a lower case t. Use the Replace all to replace all paragraph marks with tabs
Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
Hi Ann Marie, A nonbreaking space is used to keep text together. When used between two words instead of a regular space the two words can be forced to be at the beginning or end of the same line. Nonbreaking spaces can also be used to produce different alignment of text on the same line. The code you would enter on the number pad while holding down Alt key is 0160. You can enter a nonbreaking space by holding down CTRL with shift keys and pressing spacebar. The nonbreaking spaces should not be removed when replacing paragraph marks with tabs. You don't want to replace nonbreaking spaces with tabs because when converting to a table using tabs as column dividers you will end up with unwanted columns and text that is meant to be together in the same column being separated into different columns. I went to the web site you sent me and I think I found a way to get the information pasted with vertical bars dividing the columns. When pasted in Word I think the text can then be converted into a table and the vertical bars used as column dividers or they can be changed to tabs that can be used as column dividers. The site is quite difficult to navigate and copying information isn't really a straightforward process. Perhaps you can send the link to this list and see if someone else can offer a way to handle it. I will Email you privately as well but I won't be able to spend time on this until later tomorrow. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 15, 2017 4:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Brian, I cannot seem to get the procedure you have after word instead. There is a non breaking space code 160. When I replace ^013 to ^t the non breaking 160 also changes to a tab. Any possibility I can replace 160 with I believe is a page break then change do 013 to tab? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, If you press number 5 on the number pad three times quickly when number lock is off you get a numeric code for the current character. The code given is 13. However, you actually need to use 013. The 13 is the code initially used as a carriage return. If you turn the number lock on, hold down Alt and type 13 on the number pad followed by a space, you will likely get an 8th note. (♪). Instead you turn on the number lock, hold down Alt while typing 013 and you get the paragraph mark. If using 013 in a Find and Replace dialog box in Word you would need to put a caret (shift on 6) before the numbers. However, using caret followed by a lower case p does the same thing. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 14, 2017 3:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Brian how did you figure out that it was a paragraph marker? Is there a place I can find the paragraph or tab equivalent. Maybe hexadecimal is not the way to go. -Original Message- From: Ann M Medlar [mailto:amedl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Brian, As always thank you. I tried to find these values. How did you know that it is a paragraph mark? I did find that Notepad has a hex converter but had no idea how to add on this plug in. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, The character at the end of each line except the bottom line is a paragraph mark. To replace it in Word you can use a caret (shift key with 6) followed by a lower case p. In the Replace With box you can use caret mark followed immediately by a lower case t. Use the Replace all to replace all paragraph marks with tabs. If there is more text in the document you might want to first select what you want to replace before using the Replace dialog box. If you copy the text with the paragraph marks each word will go on a separate row in a column when pasted in Excel. If you have tabs instead of the paragraph marks then text will be placed in cells of the same row. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 13, 2017 3:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
Hi Brian, I cannot seem to get the procedure you have after word instead. There is a non breaking space code 160. When I replace ^013 to ^t the non breaking 160 also changes to a tab. Any possibility I can replace 160 with I believe is a page break then change do 013 to tab? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, If you press number 5 on the number pad three times quickly when number lock is off you get a numeric code for the current character. The code given is 13. However, you actually need to use 013. The 13 is the code initially used as a carriage return. If you turn the number lock on, hold down Alt and type 13 on the number pad followed by a space, you will likely get an 8th note. (♪). Instead you turn on the number lock, hold down Alt while typing 013 and you get the paragraph mark. If using 013 in a Find and Replace dialog box in Word you would need to put a caret (shift on 6) before the numbers. However, using caret followed by a lower case p does the same thing. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 14, 2017 3:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Brian how did you figure out that it was a paragraph marker? Is there a place I can find the paragraph or tab equivalent. Maybe hexadecimal is not the way to go. -Original Message- From: Ann M Medlar [mailto:amedl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Brian, As always thank you. I tried to find these values. How did you know that it is a paragraph mark? I did find that Notepad has a hex converter but had no idea how to add on this plug in. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, The character at the end of each line except the bottom line is a paragraph mark. To replace it in Word you can use a caret (shift key with 6) followed by a lower case p. In the Replace With box you can use caret mark followed immediately by a lower case t. Use the Replace all to replace all paragraph marks with tabs. If there is more text in the document you might want to first select what you want to replace before using the Replace dialog box. If you copy the text with the paragraph marks each word will go on a separate row in a column when pasted in Excel. If you have tabs instead of the paragraph marks then text will be placed in cells of the same row. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 13, 2017 3:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Below is data from a web site. After each word Jaws announces a blank. I have no idea what this blank character is. I want to copy data from web site save as word document. Then control h to replace blank with a tab. If blank changed to tab I can easily read info in Excel. Does anyone know how to identify this blank character? Last character after the word place is blank. Copy data from web site: Place Bow Name Raw +/- Adjusted Group For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
Hi Ann Marie, If you press number 5 on the number pad three times quickly when number lock is off you get a numeric code for the current character. The code given is 13. However, you actually need to use 013. The 13 is the code initially used as a carriage return. If you turn the number lock on, hold down Alt and type 13 on the number pad followed by a space, you will likely get an 8th note. (♪). Instead you turn on the number lock, hold down Alt while typing 013 and you get the paragraph mark. If using 013 in a Find and Replace dialog box in Word you would need to put a caret (shift on 6) before the numbers. However, using caret followed by a lower case p does the same thing. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 14, 2017 3:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Brian how did you figure out that it was a paragraph marker? Is there a place I can find the paragraph or tab equivalent. Maybe hexadecimal is not the way to go. -Original Message- From: Ann M Medlar [mailto:amedl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Brian, As always thank you. I tried to find these values. How did you know that it is a paragraph mark? I did find that Notepad has a hex converter but had no idea how to add on this plug in. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, The character at the end of each line except the bottom line is a paragraph mark. To replace it in Word you can use a caret (shift key with 6) followed by a lower case p. In the Replace With box you can use caret mark followed immediately by a lower case t. Use the Replace all to replace all paragraph marks with tabs. If there is more text in the document you might want to first select what you want to replace before using the Replace dialog box. If you copy the text with the paragraph marks each word will go on a separate row in a column when pasted in Excel. If you have tabs instead of the paragraph marks then text will be placed in cells of the same row. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 13, 2017 3:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Below is data from a web site. After each word Jaws announces a blank. I have no idea what this blank character is. I want to copy data from web site save as word document. Then control h to replace blank with a tab. If blank changed to tab I can easily read info in Excel. Does anyone know how to identify this blank character? Last character after the word place is blank. Copy data from web site: Place Bow Name Raw +/- Adjusted Group For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
Brian how did you figure out that it was a paragraph marker? Is there a place I can find the paragraph or tab equivalent. Maybe hexadecimal is not the way to go. -Original Message- From: Ann M Medlar [mailto:amedl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Brian, As always thank you. I tried to find these values. How did you know that it is a paragraph mark? I did find that Notepad has a hex converter but had no idea how to add on this plug in. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, The character at the end of each line except the bottom line is a paragraph mark. To replace it in Word you can use a caret (shift key with 6) followed by a lower case p. In the Replace With box you can use caret mark followed immediately by a lower case t. Use the Replace all to replace all paragraph marks with tabs. If there is more text in the document you might want to first select what you want to replace before using the Replace dialog box. If you copy the text with the paragraph marks each word will go on a separate row in a column when pasted in Excel. If you have tabs instead of the paragraph marks then text will be placed in cells of the same row. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 13, 2017 3:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Below is data from a web site. After each word Jaws announces a blank. I have no idea what this blank character is. I want to copy data from web site save as word document. Then control h to replace blank with a tab. If blank changed to tab I can easily read info in Excel. Does anyone know how to identify this blank character? Last character after the word place is blank. Copy data from web site: Place Bow Name Raw +/- Adjusted Group For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
Brian, As always thank you. I tried to find these values. How did you know that it is a paragraph mark? I did find that Notepad has a hex converter but had no idea how to add on this plug in. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Hi Ann Marie, The character at the end of each line except the bottom line is a paragraph mark. To replace it in Word you can use a caret (shift key with 6) followed by a lower case p. In the Replace With box you can use caret mark followed immediately by a lower case t. Use the Replace all to replace all paragraph marks with tabs. If there is more text in the document you might want to first select what you want to replace before using the Replace dialog box. If you copy the text with the paragraph marks each word will go on a separate row in a column when pasted in Excel. If you have tabs instead of the paragraph marks then text will be placed in cells of the same row. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 13, 2017 3:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Below is data from a web site. After each word Jaws announces a blank. I have no idea what this blank character is. I want to copy data from web site save as word document. Then control h to replace blank with a tab. If blank changed to tab I can easily read info in Excel. Does anyone know how to identify this blank character? Last character after the word place is blank. Copy data from web site: Place Bow Name Raw +/- Adjusted Group For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
Hi Ann Marie, The character at the end of each line except the bottom line is a paragraph mark. To replace it in Word you can use a caret (shift key with 6) followed by a lower case p. In the Replace With box you can use caret mark followed immediately by a lower case t. Use the Replace all to replace all paragraph marks with tabs. If there is more text in the document you might want to first select what you want to replace before using the Replace dialog box. If you copy the text with the paragraph marks each word will go on a separate row in a column when pasted in Excel. If you have tabs instead of the paragraph marks then text will be placed in cells of the same row. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M Medlar Sent: November 13, 2017 3:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Below is data from a web site. After each word Jaws announces a blank. I have no idea what this blank character is. I want to copy data from web site save as word document. Then control h to replace blank with a tab. If blank changed to tab I can easily read info in Excel. Does anyone know how to identify this blank character? Last character after the word place is blank. Copy data from web site: Place Bow Name Raw +/- Adjusted Group For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
Hi Ann, Jaws announces, Space, for me. Have you tried selecting the, blank, only using the Shift + Right Arrow keystroke? Try this: Navigate character by character using the right arro key, & when you hear, Blank, press, Shift + Right Arrow, to select, & control + C, to copy the to the clipboard. Now paste this into the, Find, field, & put whatever in the, Replace, field, then press, Alt + A, to replace all. Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Ann M Medlar To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character Below is data from a web site. After each word Jaws announces a blank. I have no idea what this blank character is. I want to copy data from web site save as word document. Then control h to replace blank with a tab. If blank changed to tab I can easily read info in Excel. Does anyone know how to identify this blank character? Last character after the word place is blank. Copy data from web site: Place Bow Name Raw +/- Adjusted Group For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character
Below is data from a web site. After each word Jaws announces a blank. I have no idea what this blank character is. I want to copy data from web site save as word document. Then control h to replace blank with a tab. If blank changed to tab I can easily read info in Excel. Does anyone know how to identify this blank character? Last character after the word place is blank. Copy data from web site: Place Bow Name Raw +/- Adjusted Group For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
