Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta
Apologies, I didn't word that very well. Outlook Express was not designed to be run on anything past XP. Therefore it is not going to be supported by FS on a later version of windows. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 02 October 2014 02:27 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta There are many other programs not owned or developed by Microsoft that run on Windows currently, several of which JAWS supports (or has supported). - Original Message - From: Bob t...@squashyware.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta If the program is available officially for a supported version of windows then report it. FS wont make any changes to jaws 16 to improve access to outlook express as it is not supported by MS. On 01/10/2014 16:51, East, Robin wrote: Agreed. FS needs to decide specifically what reports they need. Thank you Later... Robin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: October 1, 2014 9:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Robin, Windows Mail in Windows 7 is a registry edit, and Outlook Express, was not engineered by Microsoft to workin Windows 7 and therefore may have unexpected side-effects , which FS would not have anticipated in the development stage of Jaws. This is a question best answered by a representative from FS, I only mentioned it because the 2 clients mentioned, while are Microsoft products, are not being used in the versions of Windows that Microsoft intended. It's kind of like using a screwdriver for a pry bar if that is what you use it for, don't expect the manufacturer to replace it when it breaks. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta They are still important applications that need to work with JAWS. I would think that FS wuld appreciate all bugs on popular applications and they can decide if they want to make corrections or not. If we do not inform them then some folks using JAWS and these applications will switch to NVDA or other screen reader softwares. I do not think FS wants to lose any more folks then theyall ready have. Mind you it would be good to have Eric comment on this. Later... robin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: October 1, 2014 7:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Fanus and all members, I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware, Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7 are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft in Windows 7 or higher. So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on the beta report form. If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta
Hello Rick Well, before the upgrade of the patch failed, everything was ok. I decided to uninstall the jfw16.exe file and to reinstall it again and the problem is solved, so it has to do that the upgrade patch failed to install. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:38 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Fanus and all members, I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware, Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7 are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft in Windows 7 or higher. So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on the beta report form. If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express
Hi Rick So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and reinstall? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Fanus, I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning. The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new message. All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hello list I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the download but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I have typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the problem does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read line by line etc. Regards Fanus --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta
Hi Robin, Windows Mail in Windows 7 is a registry edit, and Outlook Express, was not engineered by Microsoft to workin Windows 7 and therefore may have unexpected side-effects , which FS would not have anticipated in the development stage of Jaws. This is a question best answered by a representative from FS, I only mentioned it because the 2 clients mentioned, while are Microsoft products, are not being used in the versions of Windows that Microsoft intended. It's kind of like using a screwdriver for a pry bar if that is what you use it for, don't expect the manufacturer to replace it when it breaks. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta They are still important applications that need to work with JAWS. I would think that FS wuld appreciate all bugs on popular applications and they can decide if they want to make corrections or not. If we do not inform them then some folks using JAWS and these applications will switch to NVDA or other screen reader softwares. I do not think FS wants to lose any more folks then theyall ready have. Mind you it would be good to have Eric comment on this. Later... robin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: October 1, 2014 7:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Fanus and all members, I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware, Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7 are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft in Windows 7 or higher. So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on the beta report form. If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express
Hi Fanus, I do not use Avast, so I can't really comment on that part of your question, only to say that if you disable it to install Jaws, make sure that you disable your Internet connection first, and re-enable it before re-connecting to the Internet after installation. I would think that you would get a security window from Avast to allow the installation, if that is what's blocking it. Have you tried re-booting the computer? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Rick So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and reinstall? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Fanus, I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning. The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new message. All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hello list I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the download but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I have typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the problem does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read line by line etc. Regards Fanus --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta
Agreed. FS needs to decide specifically what reports they need. Thank you Later... Robin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: October 1, 2014 9:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Robin, Windows Mail in Windows 7 is a registry edit, and Outlook Express, was not engineered by Microsoft to workin Windows 7 and therefore may have unexpected side-effects , which FS would not have anticipated in the development stage of Jaws. This is a question best answered by a representative from FS, I only mentioned it because the 2 clients mentioned, while are Microsoft products, are not being used in the versions of Windows that Microsoft intended. It's kind of like using a screwdriver for a pry bar if that is what you use it for, don't expect the manufacturer to replace it when it breaks. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta They are still important applications that need to work with JAWS. I would think that FS wuld appreciate all bugs on popular applications and they can decide if they want to make corrections or not. If we do not inform them then some folks using JAWS and these applications will switch to NVDA or other screen reader softwares. I do not think FS wants to lose any more folks then theyall ready have. Mind you it would be good to have Eric comment on this. Later... robin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: October 1, 2014 7:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Fanus and all members, I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware, Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7 are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft in Windows 7 or higher. So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on the beta report form. If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express
Hi Rick I get the error message before I get to the point of rebooting i.e. the install says that it cannot install the patch and then there is only an OK button which quits the download and install process. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Fanus, I do not use Avast, so I can't really comment on that part of your question, only to say that if you disable it to install Jaws, make sure that you disable your Internet connection first, and re-enable it before re-connecting to the Internet after installation. I would think that you would get a security window from Avast to allow the installation, if that is what's blocking it. Have you tried re-booting the computer? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Rick So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and reinstall? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Fanus, I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning. The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new message. All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hello list I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the download but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I have typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the problem does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read line by line etc. Regards Fanus --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express
Hi Fanus, I would go to Freedom Scientific's web site and download the entire install, in that case. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Rick I get the error message before I get to the point of rebooting i.e. the install says that it cannot install the patch and then there is only an OK button which quits the download and install process. Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Fanus, I do not use Avast, so I can't really comment on that part of your question, only to say that if you disable it to install Jaws, make sure that you disable your Internet connection first, and re-enable it before re-connecting to the Internet after installation. I would think that you would get a security window from Avast to allow the installation, if that is what's blocking it. Have you tried re-booting the computer? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Rick So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and reinstall? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Fanus, I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning. The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new message. All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hello list I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the download but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I have typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the problem does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read line by line etc. Regards Fanus --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express
Did you re-install the patch scripts for Outlook Express in your Jaws 16 beta? I had to do that with the first release of Jaws 16. But, my update went fine and I am using OE with my Win 7 machine as I am writing this. I just ran the update from the Jaws update instead of downloading the whole beta. If you need the script, I think Dave posted it up on the Jaws-users.com website, or send me an email off-list and I can send it to you. - Original Message - From: Fanus To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hello list I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the download but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I have typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the problem does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read line by line etc. Regards Fanus --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express
Hi If the internet connection is disabled while AVAST is disabled, it will be impossible to download and update the JAWS patch. You would need to have downloaded the full updated version before disabling Avast and the internet connection. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:13 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Fanus, I do not use Avast, so I can't really comment on that part of your question, only to say that if you disable it to install Jaws, make sure that you disable your Internet connection first, and re-enable it before re-connecting to the Internet after installation. I would think that you would get a security window from Avast to allow the installation, if that is what's blocking it. Have you tried re-booting the computer? HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Rick So I take it that the patch update did work for you? I wonder if it has something to do with the avast virus software because somewhere in the process avast gave a warning about mellicious files. If you perhaps use avast, do you know how I deactivate it or should I just uninstall and reinstall? Regards Fanus - Original Message - From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hi Fanus, I experienced a similar problem after updating Jaws this morning. The problem here was Jaws not reading any of the fields for a new message. All I needed to do was to unload Jaws, and then re-start it. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:55 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 beta problem in outlook express Hello list I was using outlook express ok on windows 7 PC with JFW 16 beta and this morning I got a message that an update is available. I started the download but got a message that the patch could not be installed saying that there may be an error in my installed JFW. Now the strange thing is that when I try to do an email the to and subject fields are ok but when I try to type in the body field I do hear what I type but when I try to read the message jaws keeps saying blank blank. I sent a test to myself and I could read the test message, so it is only in the body where I can not read what I have typed. Does anyone have a solution? O yes, I loaded jaws 15 and the problem does not exist, in fact I am writing this email with JFW 15 and I can read line by line etc. Regards Fanus --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta
If the program is available officially for a supported version of windows then report it. FS wont make any changes to jaws 16 to improve access to outlook express as it is not supported by MS. On 01/10/2014 16:51, East, Robin wrote: Agreed. FS needs to decide specifically what reports they need. Thank you Later... Robin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: October 1, 2014 9:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Robin, Windows Mail in Windows 7 is a registry edit, and Outlook Express, was not engineered by Microsoft to workin Windows 7 and therefore may have unexpected side-effects , which FS would not have anticipated in the development stage of Jaws. This is a question best answered by a representative from FS, I only mentioned it because the 2 clients mentioned, while are Microsoft products, are not being used in the versions of Windows that Microsoft intended. It's kind of like using a screwdriver for a pry bar if that is what you use it for, don't expect the manufacturer to replace it when it breaks. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta They are still important applications that need to work with JAWS. I would think that FS wuld appreciate all bugs on popular applications and they can decide if they want to make corrections or not. If we do not inform them then some folks using JAWS and these applications will switch to NVDA or other screen reader softwares. I do not think FS wants to lose any more folks then theyall ready have. Mind you it would be good to have Eric comment on this. Later... robin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: October 1, 2014 7:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Fanus and all members, I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware, Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7 are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft in Windows 7 or higher. So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on the beta report form. If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta
There are many other programs not owned or developed by Microsoft that run on Windows currently, several of which JAWS supports (or has supported). - Original Message - From: Bob t...@squashyware.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta If the program is available officially for a supported version of windows then report it. FS wont make any changes to jaws 16 to improve access to outlook express as it is not supported by MS. On 01/10/2014 16:51, East, Robin wrote: Agreed. FS needs to decide specifically what reports they need. Thank you Later... Robin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: October 1, 2014 9:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Robin, Windows Mail in Windows 7 is a registry edit, and Outlook Express, was not engineered by Microsoft to workin Windows 7 and therefore may have unexpected side-effects , which FS would not have anticipated in the development stage of Jaws. This is a question best answered by a representative from FS, I only mentioned it because the 2 clients mentioned, while are Microsoft products, are not being used in the versions of Windows that Microsoft intended. It's kind of like using a screwdriver for a pry bar if that is what you use it for, don't expect the manufacturer to replace it when it breaks. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta They are still important applications that need to work with JAWS. I would think that FS wuld appreciate all bugs on popular applications and they can decide if they want to make corrections or not. If we do not inform them then some folks using JAWS and these applications will switch to NVDA or other screen reader softwares. I do not think FS wants to lose any more folks then theyall ready have. Mind you it would be good to have Eric comment on this. Later... robin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: October 1, 2014 7:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 Beta Hi Fanus and all members, I forgot to mention this in my last message, but everyone should be aware, Windows Mail and Outlook Express in Windows 7 are more than likely not supported by any version of Jaws This is because neither of these e-mail clients are supported by Microsoft in Windows 7 or higher. So, any problems in that regard with Jaws 16 beta, should probably not go on the beta report form. If I am mistaken, I hope that Eric will let us know. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
