RE: How to Get an Applications Key on a Lenovo Laptop?

2015-08-21 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
The only use of the print screen key I can think of is capturing screen
shots of web pages.

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Subject: RE: How to Get an Applications Key on a Lenovo Laptop?

This depends on which Lenovo model you are using.  You can
sometimes swap the insert key and the applications key.  Since
insert is the typical insert key, that may not be entirely
desirable; however, with the laptop keyboard, the capslock key
becomes the JAWS key.  Depending upon personal preference, this
may be a good way to get both a JAWS key, which you absolutely
need, and an applications key, which is pretty handy.
The insert key, when it is not the JAWS key, is pretty useless.
Though, I would love to replace the print screen key with
something useful.  I don't think I've ever found a use for the
print screen key.


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Subject: Re: How to Get an Applications Key on a Lenovo Laptop?

Right click though is WHEREVER THE mouse happens to be. The
application menu is triggered where the keyboard is focused.

You could of course route the jaws to PC cursor before doing the
right click but that is even more cumbersome than shift+f10.

On 8/20/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Often the right click and applications menus are the same.  Not 
 always, but often.
 eAt 08:33 AM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
Hi!



My Lenovo L440 laptop has no Applications Key as is found on a

standard keyboard.  The Applications Key functions like a right
mouse 
click.  So,  how does someone do this without an Applications
Key?  
Or, perhaps better, how can someone make a key on the Lenovo act
like 
the Applications Key?



Thanks,

Richard

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RE: Drag and drop with Jaws

2015-08-19 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
What are the steps to perform JAWS drag-and-drop?

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Subject: Re: Drag and drop with Jaws

I have managed a few successful drag-and-drops with jaws but it is always a
pain to get right. If the keyboard offers the same capabilities I will
always choose that route, even if it means more work than a successful mouse
drag would have been.

On 8/19/15, Bissett, Tom via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I have tried it on several ocasions with no success.  However I did 
 inadvertently do it one time.  I managed to rearrange my desktop and 
 could never get it back the way it was again.
 Tom Bisset
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:05 AM
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 Subject: Re: Drag and drop with Jaws

 I have experienced at least one instance where a program simply did 
 not offer the copy/paste via keyboard. Other than that the jaws'
 drag-and-drop operation is so cumbersome that I see no advantage in 
 using it/.

 On 8/18/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Excellent question!  I have always opted for the copy and paste method.
 I
 will be anxious to see what advantages there may be to the other.

 Jim H

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 Hi:
 Can someone explain when you would use the drag and drop command 
 rather than simply copying an item and pasting it somewhere else?
 Thanks.
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RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

2015-08-18 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
NFL Sunday Ticket is available to DirecTV customers only; DirecTV has had
exclusive rights for years.

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Tim:

The NFL is a government protected monopoly. There is no other legal
alternative to accessing the games.

Of course, if you have cable, satellite dish or ATT Uverse, you can
subscribe to the NFL Ticket.

Daniel

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Subject: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Hi list,

I recently called NFL.com and was told they are still working on getting
some screen reader bugs out of their new system.  What used to cost $39.95
is now $99.95, and they cannot say for sure if I could access the audio
feed.  Does anyone out there have any ideas on accessible alternatives for
this audio content?

Tim Ford



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RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

2015-08-18 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
That depends on the quality of the stream.  I would say approximately 15-25 MB.

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Subject: Re: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Can anyone tell me how much data would be used in one hour of streaming live 
audio?  

Sent from Jim's iPhone


 On Aug 18, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Cristóbal via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 
 If you have an iOS device, you can buy the app Pro Radio for something 
 like $3.00. This is what I've used for the passed few years.
 As far as something Jaws related, I have in the passed used Compass 
 Sports radio and have launched the radio feed for my team (Raiders) 
 from their site with no issues. It's pretty accessible. Totally 
 dependant on your team though.
 
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 McBride via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:57 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?
 
 Tim:
 
 The NFL is a government protected monopoly. There is no other legal 
 alternative to accessing the games.
 
 Of course, if you have cable, satellite dish or ATT Uverse, you can 
 subscribe to the NFL Ticket.
 
 Daniel
 
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 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:24 PM
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 Cc: Tim Ford
 Subject: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?
 
 Hi list,
 
 I recently called NFL.com and was told they are still working on 
 getting some screen reader bugs out of their new system.  What used to 
 cost $39.95 is now $99.95, and they cannot say for sure if I could 
 access the audio feed.  Does anyone out there have any ideas on 
 accessible alternatives for this audio content?
 
 Tim Ford
 
 
 
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RE: Please unsubscribe me

2015-08-16 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Jim,

Have you considered switching to digest delivery?  This setting allows you to 
receive list mail in daily batches.

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Subject: Re: Please unsubscribe me

As I said, I would rather fix this problem so that I don't get so many emails 
all at the same time.

If I cannot find out how to do that, I will on subscribe using the method that 
you have outlined.

Jim H



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 Cheers
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 Seems I am having the same issues. I have asked for information on how to 
 change my preferences, and have received no response. I am considering 
 canceling this subscription – but, how do I do it.
 
 Jim H
 
 
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 Immediately  still receiving hundreds of messages despite unsubscribing?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Itunes working better with Jaws

2015-08-16 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Bob,

Thank you for sharing this information.

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Subject: Itunes working better with Jaws

The latest update seems to have fixed some of the keyboard navigation
problems intruded in the previous update.  In particular; f6 is now working
more as expected.  Also, tabbing through the interface does not read every
label and every control. That was a pain.

Still needs work but not quite the mess it was.

No improvement in the get info screen.  Still hard to move through some long
lists.  Still no hot keys in some areas.

Bob


iTunes 12.2.2.25

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RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

2015-08-13 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Russell and All,

I encountered the same accessibility barrier when trying to disable this
feature.  I assumed that checked means on, while no status indication
signifies off. Can anyone confirm if this is in fact correct?  I don't
have System Access to verify myself.  I would greatly appreciate it.  Thank
you in advance for your help.

Best Wishes,

Michal

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Subject: RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hi Mark,

Wow! I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but MS nevver ceases to amaze me with
some of the choices they make! Why would this, to use the term loosely,
feature, be turned on by default? If you hadn't brought it up here, I would
have unwittingly been sharing my bandwidth with who knows who! Amazing!
Another confirmation that switching to the Mac as my main home computer 6
years agowas the right choice!

Just as an aside to this... when I followed your instructions to turn off
this feature, Jaws only read the On/Off switch button as checked so it was
really unclear as to what I was checking or unchecking. I unloaded Jaws and
loaded System Access. System Access announced Switch button On and Switch
button Off, which helped me to know for sure that I was actually turning
this feature off. 

Thanks Mark for bringing this to our attention! You saved me much bandwidth,
I'm sure! :)

Russell

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To: 'Jaws for Windows' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark facebookm...@candleshoreblog.com
Subject: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO) 

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service. 

1.
Click the Windows 10 Start Button and select Settings 
 
2.
Select Update  security from the Settings menu. 
 
3.
Click Advanced options 
 
4.
Click Choose how updates are delivered 
 
5.
Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off 
 
6.
All done!


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RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

2015-08-13 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Thanks for clarifying.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell 
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk rsolowon...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others 
Without Your Permission

Hi Michal,

You are correct… checked means  on, and no status indication means off.

HTH

Russell
 On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com 
 wrote:
 
 Russell and All,
 
 I encountered the same accessibility barrier when trying to disable 
 this feature.  I assumed that checked means on, while no status 
 indication signifies off. Can anyone confirm if this is in fact 
 correct?  I don't have System Access to verify myself.  I would 
 greatly appreciate it.  Thank you in advance for your help.
 
 Best Wishes,
 
 Michal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell 
 Solowoniuk via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:04 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Russell Solowoniuk rsolowon...@gmail.com
 Subject: RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With 
 Others Without Your Permission
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 Wow! I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but MS nevver ceases to amaze 
 me with some of the choices they make! Why would this, to use the term 
 loosely, feature, be turned on by default? If you hadn't brought it up 
 here, I would have unwittingly been sharing my bandwidth with who knows who! 
 Amazing!
 Another confirmation that switching to the Mac as my main home 
 computer 6 years agowas the right choice!
 
 Just as an aside to this... when I followed your instructions to turn 
 off this feature, Jaws only read the On/Off switch button as checked 
 so it was really unclear as to what I was checking or unchecking. I 
 unloaded Jaws and loaded System Access. System Access announced 
 Switch button On and Switch button Off, which helped me to know 
 for sure that I was actually turning this feature off.
 
 Thanks Mark for bringing this to our attention! You saved me much 
 bandwidth, I'm sure! :)
 
 Russell
 
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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via 
 Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:19 PM
 To: 'Jaws for Windows' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Mark facebookm...@candleshoreblog.com
 Subject: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With 
 Others Without Your Permission
 
 Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,
 
 You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 
 as it does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal 
 information, and now, it seems, even our band-width without our 
 expressed permission, until I discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden 
 options.
 
 Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, 
 in my opinion, very unwelcomed feature.
 
 Mark
 
 How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO)
 
 By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
 called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, 
 Windows
 10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. 
 This brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update 
 Delivery Optimization service.
 
 1.
 Click the Windows 10 Start Button and select Settings
 
 2.
 Select Update  security from the Settings menu. 
 
 3.
 Click Advanced options
 
 4.
 Click Choose how updates are delivered
 
 5.
 Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off
 
 6.
 All done!
 
 
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RE: disabling forms mode

2015-08-13 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Hello Sandra,

Forms Mode is an absolutely necessary JAWS feature because without it, there 
would be no way to distinguish between typing on a web page and using 
navigation quick keys.  For instance, if there were no forms mode, JAWS 
wouldn't know how to respond when you press the letter h because it wouldn't 
know whether you want to type an h or if you wish to move to the next heading 
on the page.  This obviously is not an issue for sighted people because they 
navigate the web visually.  I hope this clarifies why Forms Mode is an 
essential component of JAWS and other screen readers.

Michal

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Subject: disabling forms mode

Hello all:

I am a JAWS 16 user who has used JAWS for years. I’ve always found myself 
frustrated to have to press Enter anytime I want to start or stop entries in 
Forms Mode; sighted people can just type their info in, without the extra 
steps. Is there a way I could disable Forms Mode so that I could just type in 
the needed info? I am a fast typist and find that I go faster than the field 
can appear or disappear! It would be nice if, upon reaching a form field, JAWS 
could just say, “to field,” then you immediately type a person’s name, for 
instance... I’ve always been mystified about the purpose of Forms Mode: what 
issues was it designed to address? Any responses are appreciated.


Sandra
Sandra
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(Les Miserables--the musical)
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RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

2015-08-12 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I don't think it would affect battery life significantly, but it might
improve it slightly.  That said, it is probably not worthwhile disabling
fast startup just to preserve battery power.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:56 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Londa Peterson lpeter...@vrocp.org
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

I've had this same experience with JAWS in demo mode. A restart will reset
the clock on the demo. By the way, does disabling fast start have any effect
on a laptop's battery? I find that I'll shut my computer down and unplug it
to take it somewhere, and when I get there I find that the battery has
drained-sometimes quite significantly. Would disabling fast start fix this? 

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:51 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Fast Startup should also be disabled if you are running JAWS (or any FS
products) in 40 minute demo mode because the system must shut down
completely in order for the clock in the demo software to reset.  I found
this out the hard way when I purchased my laptop running Windows 8 and had
to temporarily use the JAWS demo before activating the software.

Now that I am using the paid release, though, I personally would never
disable fast startup because, as the name implies, my computer boots up much
faster than it would after a full shut down.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hi Daniel,
Unfortunately, this isn't available on Windows 7, as Hybrid Boot was
introduced with Windows 8.x.
Regarding having Fast Startup on or off: it depends on your needs. You
should not use Fast Startup if:
* You are using multi-boot setup - other operating systems besides Windows
8.x/10 installed. This is more so on MACBooks and other computers.
* You are doing frequent hardware upgrades. If you do enable Fast Startup,
it'll not recognize new hardware, as Windows will think it is running on the
old hardware.
* Your disk space is precious. Hybrid Boot (Fast Startup) will use some disk
space (just enough for Windows system components to hibernate).
You might try using Fast Startup if:
* You need your computer to boot in seconds. Reports claim Windows 8 boots
in as little as seven seconds with Fast Startup turned on.
* Your computer uses UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface; to find
out, from Windows 8.x and later, from Start, type System Information).
Cheers,
Joseph


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:50 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Mark:

How does one do this in Windows 7?

Daniel

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mark
Subject: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hello Everyone,

Joe is quite correct.  I did use the incorrect term to describe how to truly
shut down a computer.  

I should never compose emails after 11:00pm (smile).

Below you will find the steps as previously posted but with the correct
terminology.  I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.  

By the way, as to the question of should one disable the Fast-Startup
feature; the only reason this topic got on-list was because someone asked
why Jaws kept announcing itself when she/he shut down the PC.

The following steps will work in both Windows 10 and Windows 8.x in order to
disable the Fast-startup option.  Doing this will allow your computer to
truly be shut-down as it was in Windows 7 and earlier.  

To disable Fast-startup, do the following:

1.
Access Windows 10 Power Options. This can easily be achieved using several
methods:
a.
Right click in the lower left corner of the screen (or simultaneously press
the Windows + X keys). This will bring up an 'Admin' menu. Simply select
Power Options from that menu.
b.
From within the Desktop; navigate to Control

RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

2015-08-12 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Fast Startup should also be disabled if you are running JAWS (or any FS
products) in 40 minute demo mode because the system must shut down
completely in order for the clock in the demo software to reset.  I found
this out the hard way when I purchased my laptop running Windows 8 and had
to temporarily use the JAWS demo before activating the software.

Now that I am using the paid release, though, I personally would never
disable fast startup because, as the name implies, my computer boots up much
faster than it would after a full shut down.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hi Daniel,
Unfortunately, this isn't available on Windows 7, as Hybrid Boot was
introduced with Windows 8.x.
Regarding having Fast Startup on or off: it depends on your needs. You
should not use Fast Startup if:
* You are using multi-boot setup - other operating systems besides Windows
8.x/10 installed. This is more so on MACBooks and other computers.
* You are doing frequent hardware upgrades. If you do enable Fast Startup,
it'll not recognize new hardware, as Windows will think it is running on the
old hardware.
* Your disk space is precious. Hybrid Boot (Fast Startup) will use some disk
space (just enough for Windows system components to hibernate).
You might try using Fast Startup if:
* You need your computer to boot in seconds. Reports claim Windows 8 boots
in as little as seven seconds with Fast Startup turned on.
* Your computer uses UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface; to find
out, from Windows 8.x and later, from Start, type System Information).
Cheers,
Joseph


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:50 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Mark:

How does one do this in Windows 7?

Daniel

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mark
Subject: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hello Everyone,

Joe is quite correct.  I did use the incorrect term to describe how to truly
shut down a computer.  

I should never compose emails after 11:00pm (smile).

Below you will find the steps as previously posted but with the correct
terminology.  I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.  

By the way, as to the question of should one disable the Fast-Startup
feature; the only reason this topic got on-list was because someone asked
why Jaws kept announcing itself when she/he shut down the PC.

The following steps will work in both Windows 10 and Windows 8.x in order to
disable the Fast-startup option.  Doing this will allow your computer to
truly be shut-down as it was in Windows 7 and earlier.  

To disable Fast-startup, do the following:

1.
Access Windows 10 Power Options. This can easily be achieved using several
methods:
a.
Right click in the lower left corner of the screen (or simultaneously press
the Windows + X keys). This will bring up an 'Admin' menu. Simply select
Power Options from that menu.
b.
From within the Desktop; navigate to Control PanelPower Options.
Or c.
From within the Start Screen; type power, click on Settings, and select
Power Options from the list of results:

2.
In the 'Power Options' window; click on Choose what the power buttons do
(from the left hand panel):

3.
In the new window; click on Change settings that are currently unavailable:

4.
Uncheck Fast-startup.

That's all there is to it.

Enjoy,

Mark


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RE: shutting down.....

2015-08-11 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Perfectly normal! I think this happens because for a moment, the log on
screne may pop up, causing JAWS to restart.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Londa Peterson lpeter...@vrocp.org
Subject: RE: shutting down.

This is normal. It's been doing that since Windows 8.1. It surprised me at
first as well. 

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: shutting down.

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

2015-08-10 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
If you don't uninstall previous versions of JAWS, you won't even be able to
upgrade to Windows 10.  That is because Windows Update will stop the upgrade
when it detects software that is incompatible with Windows 10.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 12:43 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Dave:

Very enlightening!  For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly
considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have proven
to be far-sighted after all.  I think that I may adopt your 3 most-recent
version strategy myself.  However, once someone moves to Windows 10,
previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.

However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10.  So, for now, are
there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS
offering?  Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss
situation?

Thanks.

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to justify
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Don't mean to be smart; but, why would you want to use previous versions
of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully.  I'm sure that
there is a really good reason for it!  :)  :)

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of john.falter
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: john.falter john.fal...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
 The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground.  I don't 
 think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister though.  
 Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant 
 position.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this, 
 um, adage.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel 
 McBride via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer 
 stand feeder.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian 
 Spratt via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers 
 to the end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the 
 time? I'm waiting for the first service pack (MS always comes out 
 with one) and FS's first rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will 
 appear within the year.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
 White via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bill White
 Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
 Windows10 won't be free anymore.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 - Original Message -
 From: 

RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

2015-08-10 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
You can always use NVDA as a backup.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

John,

A very good point. I sometimes need to revert back to an older version of
JAWS if the current one seems to misbehave. With Windows 10 we need to start
with JAWS 16 and live with any limitations until the release of JAWS 17.

And, yes, to another lister who suggested that it would be a good move on FS
part to follow MS with a free upgrade to JAWS 17 with some proof that
Windows 10 was installed. Why not make it a coincident upgrade program?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: john.falter via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: john.falter john.fal...@verizon.net
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 08:18 AM
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
 The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground.  I don't
 think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
 though.  Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant
 position.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this,
 um, adage.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
 McBride via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand
 feeder.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
 Spratt
 via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Adrian Spratt
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers
 to the
 end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm
 waiting
 for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first
 rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
 White via
 Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bill White
 Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
 Windows10 won't be free anymore.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
 Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Hi,

 I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and
 I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

 So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm
 doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program;
 you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that
 now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
 (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to
 indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

 So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to
 know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating
 system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can
 see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where
 Windows
 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should
 cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, If it
 ain't broke, don't fix it, apply here? I'd really honestly like to
 know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in
 the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning
 computer to see if it will still function.

 P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in
 mall?
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RE: stubborn remnances

2015-08-10 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Revo Uninstaller is another possibility.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mario mrb...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: stubborn remnances

yes, ccleaner is one that I know that can delete ghost entries. not sure if
I should just leave them alone or zap them.
.


On 8/10/2015 8:24 AM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
 Yes, that is windows for you. There are tools you can use to remove
 that entries, but I don't know enough about them.

 On 10/08/2015, Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 It's just registry entries that didn't get cleaned out by the uninstall
 process.

 Brad

 On 8/9/2015 5:53 PM, Mario via Jfw wrote:
 I didn't find any actual files, so I guess the ghosts will stay.
 I wonder what causes them to show up if there isn't anything there?
 hmm...


 On 8/9/2015 3:59 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
 It sounds like they're gone; the entries are just listed in Add/Remove
 Programs? If you look in your Program Files (Or Program Files x86)
 folders, can you find the actual programs themselves, or are those just
 dead entries in the Programs  Features Control Panel? If they're just
 dead entries, they're annoying to look at but shouldn't hurt anything.

 Brad

 On 8/9/2015 2:42 PM, Mario via Jfw wrote:
 after running the tool from fs to remove prior versions of JAWS, I
 checked the programs and features applett and found:

 Freedom Scientific Synthesizer Eloquence Freedom Scientific 7/ 13/
 2015 10.9 MB 6.1.004
 Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 28/
 2012 15.3 MB 13.0.1006.400
 Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 14.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/
 2013 35.2 MB 14.0.6005.400
 Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Freedom Scientific  8/ 27/ 2013
 12.6.305.0


 opting to uninstall the 13 talking installer, I got the following
 which also happens with the 14 talking installer:

 The feature you are trying to use is on a
 network resource that is unavailable.

 Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a
 folder containing the installation package
 'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in the box below.
 C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\
 OK


 The path
 'C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\RuntimeJAWS.msi'
 cannot be found. Verify that you have access to this
 location and try again, or try to find the installation package
 'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in a folder from which you can install
 the product Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0.
 Cancel


 The installation source for this product is not
 available.  Verify that the source exists and that you
 can access it.

 I figure the Eloquence driver and Video Intercept are needed
 components, so left those alone.

 how to cleanly remove both talking installers?

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RE: Advice on Lenovo Laptop with JAWS

2015-08-10 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
On HP laptops, it is called Action Keys Mode.  I don't know about Lenovo, 
though.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell 
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk rsolowon...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Advice on Lenovo Laptop with JAWS

Hi Richard,

When I bought my Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 last November I had the tech guys at the 
place I bought it, Future Shop, go into the BIOS and change the function key 
settings so that they revert to standard function key operation. I can’t quite 
recall exactly what this setting in the BIOS is called. Someone else already 
mentioned this, but I thought I’d suggest getting someone in the store where 
you purchase your laptop to do this for you.

Cheers,

Russell
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Richard B. McDonald via Jfw 
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 
 
 I am getting a Lenovo laptop (L440).  Could you please reply with any 
 hints, tips, tricks or precautions about using it with JAWS?
 
 
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Richard
 
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RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

2015-08-09 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I upgraded to Windows 10, and I don't plan to roll back to 8.1 because for
the most part, it works well for me.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: j Bron jb...@optonline.net
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

When I first read about windows 10 being a free download for a time it was
exciting.  Right now I think I'll stick with windows 7 until all the kinks
are worked out.  Judith

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:17 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What's worse, if you have Windows 10 Home, you won't be able to delay the
updates until JAWS figures out what to do with them. Ready or not, here
they come. Windows 10 Pro users will be able to delay updates to a point,
unspecified is how long you'll be able to delay them. I just read that
tonight. Fun fun fun.

Brad


On 8/8/2015 11:42 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
 Joseph,

 I understand your point about continuous refinements, but the first
refinements will amount to a service pack even if not given that name. I'll
be content to wait. I assume the bad part you refer to is that from time
to time, a refinement may disrupt accessibility because screenreader
developers may find it hard to keep up. I agree.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph 
 Lee via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:14 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Joseph Lee
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 Hi,
 There will be no service packs as in the past. Continuous refinements 
 will be the norm from now on, which are good thing and a bad thing.
 Virtual desktops (called Task View) are a way to group running apps 
 together into workspaces. In other words, you can open multiple 
 desktops with apps for different purposes opened in each desktop. By 
 default, when you install Windows 10 and with multiple desktops 
 opened, pressing Alt+TAB will cycle among apps on the current desktop 
 (go to Settings/System/Multitasking to change this behavior). This 
 isn't the same as having two or more user accounts (I for one use two 
 user accounts and switch between them for various purposes).
 Cheers,
 Joseph

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian 
 Spratt via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:05 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
 Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers 
 to the end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time?
 I'm waiting for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) 
 and FS's first rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear 
 within
the year.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
 White via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bill White
 Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

 What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
 Windows10 won't be free anymore.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Martin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
 Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


 Hi,

 I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, 
 and I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

 So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm 
 doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail 
 program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm 
 doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF
documents.
 (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to 
 indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

 So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like 
 to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new 
 operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only 
 benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January 
 of 2020, where Windows
 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should 
 cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, If it 
 ain't broke, don't fix it, apply here? I'd really honestly like to 
 know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial 

Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

2015-08-09 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Dear List,

 

I wanted to let you all know that the latest version of WindowEyes (9.2.1)
does read search results automatically in Windows 10.  So, if you have
Office 2010 or later, you can take advantage of this by installing
WindowEyes for Office users, at least until FS releases a fix.

 

Michal

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RE: stubborn remnances

2015-08-09 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Probably failure on the part of the FS utility to remove program entries
after uninstalling the old software.

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Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 5:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mario mrb...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: stubborn remnances

I didn't find any actual files, so I guess the ghosts will stay.
I wonder what causes them to show up if there isn't anything there? hmm...


On 8/9/2015 3:59 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
 It sounds like they're gone; the entries are just listed in Add/Remove 
 Programs? If you look in your Program Files (Or Program Files x86) 
 folders, can you find the actual programs themselves, or are those 
 just dead entries in the Programs  Features Control Panel? If they're 
 just dead entries, they're annoying to look at but shouldn't hurt
anything.

 Brad

 On 8/9/2015 2:42 PM, Mario via Jfw wrote:
 after running the tool from fs to remove prior versions of JAWS, I 
 checked the programs and features applett and found:

 Freedom Scientific Synthesizer Eloquence Freedom Scientific  7/ 13/
 2015 10.9 MB 6.1.004
 Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0 Freedom Scientific  8/ 28/
 2012 15.3 MB 13.0.1006.400
 Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 14.0 Freedom Scientific  8/ 27/
 2013 35.2 MB 14.0.6005.400
 Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Freedom Scientific  8/ 27/ 2013
 12.6.305.0


 opting to uninstall the 13 talking installer, I got the following 
 which also happens with the 14 talking installer:

 The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is 
 unavailable.

 Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a folder 
 containing the installation package 'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in the box 
 below.
 C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\
 OK


 The path
 'C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\RuntimeJAWS.msi'
 cannot be found. Verify that you have access to this
 location and try again, or try to find the installation package 
 'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in a folder from which you can install the product 
 Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0.
 Cancel


 The installation source for this product is not available.  Verify 
 that the source exists and that you can access it.

 I figure the Eloquence driver and Video Intercept are needed 
 components, so left those alone.

 how to cleanly remove both talking installers?

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RE: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

2015-08-09 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
That's not what I meant.  WindowEyes does not read all results
automatically, only the one that has focus.  That is how JAWS behaved in
Windows 7, 8, and 8.1.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 5:10 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

I down arrow to list the results.
I think it would be annoying if jaws read hundreds of results
automatically...

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michal Nowicki mnowic...@icloud.com
Subject: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

Dear List,

 

I wanted to let you all know that the latest version of WindowEyes (9.2.1)
does read search results automatically in Windows 10.  So, if you have
Office 2010 or later, you can take advantage of this by installing
WindowEyes for Office users, at least until FS releases a fix.

 

Michal

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RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

2015-08-09 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Same here:  all my programs open quickly and are running smoothly.  If I
hadn't done the upgrade myself, I would have thought my computer was built
for Windows 10.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 9:20 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk rsolowon...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Windows 10 is working great for me... I don't mind the fact that Jaws
doesn't automatically read search results, as it's usually not the first
result I am looking for, so must arrow down the list anyway. Mostly Jaws is
quite responsive and all my programs open very quickly.

Cheers,

Russell

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:55 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

I definitely agree with waiting until around the first of the year. That was
my initial intention until my programs began to die on me one at a time. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:08 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi,
Correct (Gabriel Aul from Microsoft tweeted that there will be a service
release this month).
As for bad side of continuous refinements and updates, that's one thing I'm
slightly worried about: accessibility issues. For this reason, I advised
some knowledgeable blind people (including some JAWS users here) to stay as
Windows Insiders to help Microsoft iron out accessibility problems before
the general public receives updates. But as with any software releases,
Windows 10 will have flaws (a trending topic on various social networking
sites and newspaper articles is privacy concerns, and for screen reading,
Microsoft did something with UIA where performance degradation was observed
for some screen reader users).
As for upgrade period: yes, Windows 10 will be free for properly licensed
users until July 2016. Many would say, take advantage of Windows 10 now.
However, I and others would like to advise you to hold off for a while
(especially for screen reader users; for JAWS users, please don't upgrade
until JAWS 17 comes out; there are certain things JAWS 16.0.4350 doesn't
support, including not reading Start search results automatically (to fix
this, JAWS may need to listen to a specific UIA event), no forms mode nor
virtual cursor in Edge (Microsoft Edge is filled with UIA) and not
announcing Action Center notifications for some users (to fix this, FS may
need to refine which controls are toasts, and toasts in Windows 10 are not
tool tips anymore, rather they are actual windows)).
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. Let me know if I spoke too much geekspeak.
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Joseph,

I understand your point about continuous refinements, but the first
refinements will amount to a service pack even if not given that name. I'll
be content to wait. I assume the bad part you refer to is that from time
to time, a refinement may disrupt accessibility because screenreader
developers may find it hard to keep up. I agree. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:14 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi,
There will be no service packs as in the past. Continuous refinements will
be the norm from now on, which are good thing and a bad thing.
Virtual desktops (called Task View) are a way to group running apps together
into workspaces. In other words, you can open multiple desktops with apps
for different purposes opened in each desktop. By default, when you install
Windows 10 and with multiple desktops opened, pressing Alt+TAB will cycle
among apps on the current desktop (go to Settings/System/Multitasking to
change this behavior). This isn't the same as having two or more user
accounts (I for one use two user accounts and switch between them for
various purposes).
Cheers,
Joseph

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Adrian Spratt 

RE: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

2015-08-09 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
It does, but not automatically as you type your search term; you have to use
the arrow keys to get JAWS to read them.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Debbie April
Yuille via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Debbie April Yuille debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au
Subject: RE: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

Are you saying that JAWS does read the start search entries. I was under the
impression that it didn't read them.

Thanks
Debbie

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015 8:10 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

I down arrow to list the results.
I think it would be annoying if jaws read hundreds of results
automatically...

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michal Nowicki mnowic...@icloud.com
Subject: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results

Dear List,

 

I wanted to let you all know that the latest version of WindowEyes (9.2.1)
does read search results automatically in Windows 10.  So, if you have
Office 2010 or later, you can take advantage of this by installing
WindowEyes for Office users, at least until FS releases a fix.

 

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RE: Installation of Windows 10

2015-08-08 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Only if you are upgrading from Windows 7; if upgrading from Windows 8.1, a
JAWS repair is not necessary.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Jenna
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 10:10 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mike and Jenna schwal...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I used both jfw 16 and narrator and I had no problems. Once you are upgraded
you need to run a repair on jaws.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Portillo portillo@gmail.com
Subject: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this
topic.  However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully installed
or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both?  I'm ready to install this but
don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to make
sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
Any tips will be helpful.
I've got my machine set and ready to go.
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RE: Installation of Windows 10

2015-08-08 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I don't see why not.  Before they do anything, though, make sure to retrieve
your Windows 10 product key.  Otherwise, you may not be able to activate
Windows 10.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:40 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Andre Jarreau andre.jarr...@earthlink.net
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

My computer needs repair.  Can tech take all software off hard disc, put
win10 and Office 2010 then download J16 without doing a repair on J16?

Could be a silly question but I would like to know for sure.

Thanks 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Because the upgrade will change technical components and the way jaws
interact with windows so you must repair jaws.
So josef, just too things. If I use the media creation tool, can I build an
iso wich include a product key and where will I find the key if it being the
case? And also, will I stil need sighted help or a talking desktop bootable
when using that tool for install? If not, does that mean you build the
complete install, or just the windows iso you need like it comes on the dvd?

On 08/08/2015, Jim Portillo via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Why do I need to run an repair on JAWS?


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and 
 Jenna via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:10 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Mike and Jenna
 Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

 Hi,

 I used both jfw 16 and narrator and I had no problems. Once you are 
 upgraded you need to run a repair on jaws.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
 Portillo via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:57 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Jim Portillo portillo@gmail.com
 Subject: Installation of Windows 10

 Hi,

 I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this 
 topic.  However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully
installed
 or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
 Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both?  I'm ready to install this 
 but don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want 
 to make sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
 Any tips will be helpful.
 I've got my machine set and ready to go.
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RE: Installation of Windows 10

2015-08-08 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
When I bring up the start menu, JAWS says, Search Box.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
I was able to reproduce this on my brief testing with JAWS, so this isn't
unique to your system. I hope FS knows how to use UIA to resolve this...
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I have the same problem, I repaired jaws several times, but I can't read the
start menu, some times jaws says cortana, other timesjaws says start, but
anything else jaws is able to read. I know that my computer is a little bit
old, it has quad core,  that I bought in 2008. Originally this computer came
with windows vista, and I bought windows 7, and now I am trying to with
windows 10. Looks like this computer is working fine,  some times works a
little bit slow, but with jaws I can't read anything in the start menu, no
matter if I repair jaws.
My question is, it could be a hardware problem due to the age of this
computer?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
Yes, and there are other issues that should be fixed soon, some of which are
issues with somewhat fundamental Windows 10 features, which makes me wonder
if FS came out with a half-baked solution last month (I hope FS is doing
something these days to fix them and to support Edge).
Cheers,
Joseph
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To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Date sent:
Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu.
It will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
Nermin


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RE: Installation of Windows 10

2015-08-08 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
No, but if I use the arrow keys, JAWS does read the result that has focus.
So, while not having results read automatically is an inconvenience, at
least there is a way to navigate and activate them.

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:16 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
And when you type something, does JAWS read results automatically? I and
other WinTen users observed it doesn't.
Cheers,
Joseph

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 7:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michal Nowicki mnowic...@icloud.com
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

When I bring up the start menu, JAWS says, Search Box.

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
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Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
I was able to reproduce this on my brief testing with JAWS, so this isn't
unique to your system. I hope FS knows how to use UIA to resolve this...
Cheers,
Joseph

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I have the same problem, I repaired jaws several times, but I can't read the
start menu, some times jaws says cortana, other timesjaws says start, but
anything else jaws is able to read. I know that my computer is a little bit
old, it has quad core,  that I bought in 2008. Originally this computer came
with windows vista, and I bought windows 7, and now I am trying to with
windows 10. Looks like this computer is working fine,  some times works a
little bit slow, but with jaws I can't read anything in the start menu, no
matter if I repair jaws.
My question is, it could be a hardware problem due to the age of this
computer?

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
Yes, and there are other issues that should be fixed soon, some of which are
issues with somewhat fundamental Windows 10 features, which makes me wonder
if FS came out with a half-baked solution last month (I hope FS is doing
something these days to fix them and to support Edge).
Cheers,
Joseph
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From: Nermin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Date sent:
Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu.
It will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
Nermin


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RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

2015-08-08 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Brad,

One other feature Windows 10 introduces is virtual desktops.  I have not yet
tried it out, but if I understand correctly, you could, for instance, have
separate desktops for work and personal data.  I guess this feature is
intended to help users become and stay organized.  I don't know, however, if
it is accessible.

Michal

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Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I
just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing
that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should
use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows
7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. 
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate
that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know
if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that
I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that
Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will
not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to
want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, If it ain't broke, don't
fix it, apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in
particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just
something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still
function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall?
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RE: outlook 2013 email reading curiosity

2015-08-07 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
That does happen to me, but it's rare.

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Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 3:27 AM
To: jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Subject: outlook 2013 email reading curiosity

Does anyone have outlook 2013, if so, when you open up an email and read it
or if it reads automatically for you, do you find that jaws reads it twice
as to say, pay attention! I'm only going to read it one more time to you!

It didn't do that in 2010, only here in 2013. Honestly, when it does that,
my brain gets confused lol.

FYI, using windows 10 pro and jaws 4350

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RE: Installation of Windows 10

2015-08-07 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Yes.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS 
DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 6:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Also, having read the news release from FS, may I infer that one should cleanly 
and completely uninstall earlier versions of JAWS?

Ted

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Mark and Joe,

How did you know when to start Narrator?  Did you launch it before starting the 
update?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness via 
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 5:10 PM
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Cc: Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

I did it all by myself.
I upgraded from windows 7 home premium, running Jaws 16. Thanks to the people 
on the list as I had to do a repair on jaws.
I tried using narrator and that helped a little. But, I’m use to jaws, thus 
found it frustrating.

In short you can do it by yourself.

Mark
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 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this topic. 
  However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully installed or 
 upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
 Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both?  I'm ready to install this but don't 
 know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to make sure I 
 can do this with one or two screen readers.
 Any tips will be helpful.
 I've got my machine set and ready to go.
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RE: Installation of Windows 10

2015-08-07 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Prior to Windows 8, a clean install of Windows was always better, but that
no longer seems to be the case.  It seems as though Microsoft now
deliberately designs new versions of Windows to facilitate installation over
existing copies of Windows so that users don't have to reinstall their files
and apps.  At least for me, both upgrading from Windows 8 to 8.1 and now
from 8.1  to 10 both went smoothly.  That said, I would personally recommend
a clean install of Windows only if you have a lot of junk on your computer
that you wish to get rid of, or if you have corrupt files or apps that
negatively impact overall system performance.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 2:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Aidan aidan.smartt...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Well, it works but its not really a good idea to upgrade over an existing
windows. Hope things won't go wrong later. A clean install is always better.
Does anyone know if you are forced to use a Microsoft account, or can you
stil sign in with a local account?

On 07/08/2015, Jim Portillo via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 I just tried it a while ago. Of course, something went wrong when 
 trying to activate narrator. Looks like it installed, but it is either 
 stuck or something. Now of course I have no idea what's going on on the
screen.

 Sent from my iPhone 6!

 On Aug 6, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw 
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 wrote:

 Joseph and Rob,

 Thank you for describing the accessibility of the upgrade process.  I 
 just completed it, and both JAWS and Windows 10 are working well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rob via 
 Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:40 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Rob mr.robertc...@icloud.com
 Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

 Hi,
 I just want to remind you that Narrator on Windows 10 is started and 
 stopped by pressing windows key and enter.
 after starting the upgrade, I believe the PC restarted twice, after 
 that I waited about 20 minutes and pressed windows+Enter and Narrator 
 helped me finish the setup.
 At one point, Narrator would not read the screen, so I quit and 
 restarted it with windows+Enter.
 dont forget to make a backup before upgrading.


 On 8/6/2015 4:56 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw wrote:
 Hi,

 I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to 
 this
 topic.  However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully 
 installed or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
 Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both?  I'm ready to install this 
 but
 don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to 
 make sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
 Any tips will be helpful.
 I've got my machine set and ready to go.
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RE: JAWS tandem and demo mode

2015-08-06 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
You should be able to connect to machines running demo versions of JAWS.
The only Tandem restriction I am aware of is that you cannot control someone
else's computer using a JAWS demo, but that doesn't apply in your situation.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Martz via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 2:46 PM
To: JAWS Users jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Paul Martz skewmat...@gmail.com
Subject: JAWS tandem and demo mode

Hi all. Should I be able to connect to someone's computer, using JAWS
tandem, if they are running the 40-minute demo version of JAWS?

I just tried doing this, and was not successful. I gave them the meeting ID
over the phone. They entered it and hit ENTER. At that point, my Tandem
dialog closed, but our computers never did connect. Over the phone, I could
hear his JAWS reading some error code out of a dialog box, and prompting him
to hit the OK button. On my end, INSERT + ALT + TAB caused JAWS to tell me
that I needed to be in an active tandem session, so, my JAWS did not think
we were connected.

Very strange. I thought the 40-minute demo version was supposed to be the
full version, so I expected this to work.

Any info would be appreciated.
   -Paul



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RE: Installation of Windows 10

2015-08-06 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Joseph and Rob,

Thank you for describing the accessibility of the upgrade process.  I just
completed it, and both JAWS and Windows 10 are working well.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rob via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Rob mr.robertc...@icloud.com
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
I just want to remind you that Narrator on Windows 10 is started and 
stopped by pressing windows key and enter.
after starting the upgrade, I believe the PC restarted twice, after that 
I waited about 20 minutes and pressed windows+Enter and Narrator helped 
me finish the setup.
At one point, Narrator would not read the screen, so I quit and 
restarted it with windows+Enter.
dont forget to make a backup before upgrading.


On 8/6/2015 4:56 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw wrote:
 Hi,

 I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this
topic.  However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully installed
or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
 Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both?  I'm ready to install this but
don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to make
sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
 Any tips will be helpful.
 I've got my machine set and ready to go.
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RE: p17rune.dll

2015-08-06 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
It could be, but it could also be an issue with another incompatible program
on your PC.

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 5:05 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com; ttc the-tech-z...@groups.io
Subject: p17rune.dll

when I restart my windows 10 I get the following error message.
There was a problem starting P17rune.dll The specified module could not be
found

Since I did a repair on Jaws is this an windows problem?

Mark who has not yet given up on windows10

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RE: Installation of Windows 10

2015-08-06 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Mark and Joe,

How did you know when to start Narrator?  Did you launch it before starting the 
update?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness via 
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 5:10 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

I did it all by myself.
I upgraded from windows 7 home premium, running Jaws 16. Thanks to the people 
on the list as I had to do a repair on jaws.
I tried using narrator and that helped a little. But, I’m use to jaws, thus 
found it frustrating.

In short you can do it by yourself.

Mark
 On Aug 6, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this topic. 
  However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully installed or 
 upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
 Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both?  I'm ready to install this but don't 
 know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to make sure I 
 can do this with one or two screen readers.
 Any tips will be helpful.
 I've got my machine set and ready to go.
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RE: repairing jaws

2015-08-06 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
It is because of the mirror display driver.  FS now has a page on upgrading
to Windows 10 that contains specific instructions.  Basically, if you
upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7, you must reinstall the latest build of
JAWS 16 over the current installation after the update before it will work
properly.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

That's interesting; care to elaborate?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Did you, by any chance, just upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?  If so,
that explains why you must repair JAWS.

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 5:52 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com
Subject: repairing jaws

Every time I start my computer, jaws keeps on saying there is 2 things that
are not installed correctly. I have tried a reboot as it suggested. But,
that did not fix the problem. It also suggested to do a repair. All I haave
is the downloaded filees. How then do I do a repair?

Thank you for getting me out of this mess!!!

Mark
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RE: repairing jaws

2015-08-06 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Did you, by any chance, just upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?  If so,
that explains why you must repair JAWS.

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 5:52 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com
Subject: repairing jaws

Every time I start my computer, jaws keeps on saying there is 2 things that
are not installed correctly. I have tried a reboot as it suggested. But,
that did not fix the problem. It also suggested to do a repair. All I haave
is the downloaded filees. How then do I do a repair?

Thank you for getting me out of this mess!!!

Mark
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RE: Showing items in the system tray

2015-08-06 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
He did specify; he is using Windows 8.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 5:38 PM
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Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
Subject: Re: Showing items in the system tray

Hi, Jim. Assuming you are using Windows7, since you didn't specify:

To always show all icons in the system tray


1. Open the Start menu with the Windows key

 2. Press escape followed by Alt Enter.

 3. Tab to the Notification / Customize button and press Enter.

 4. Check the checkbox for always turn on all icons and press Enter.

 5. Tab to Okay and press Enter.

 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com

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Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 2:41 PM
Subject: Showing items in the system tray


 Hi there,

 I'm using a Dell Venue tablet and need to know how to allow the items in 
 my system tray to be displayed.
 I do the Insert-f11 command, and it only shows two things, when I think 
 there could be more.  I simply don't remember how to enable all of the 
 things to be displayed in Windows 8.

 While I'm at it, how can I find out if my tablet is eligible to upgrade to

 Windows 10?

 Thanks.
 Jim

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RE: deleting XP OE email

2015-08-03 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I have the same problem on my Windows 8.1 HP laptop with Outlook 2007; I
cannot delete any of my messages.  Unfortunately, I have not found a
solution.  I am running the latest build of JAWS 16.

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Subject: RE: deleting XP OE email

Hi, Mario. 

It's been a while since I had OE, but this problem sounds vaguely familiar. 

First, is your friend pressing the delete key from the message list? I don't
think it works inside the message. (Keep in mind that JAWS says delete
because that verbalization is assigned to the delete key.)

I'm guessing that possibility is unlikely, so the following come to mind,
all assuming JAWS is focused on the message but in the message list:

1. Control-d for delete.

2. Control-shift-v for move. Select another folder as the target, such as
the delete folder, and see if it can be deleted from the new location. Or,

3. Press the applications key, then arrow down to delete and press enter.

Some other technique seems to be sloshing around my brain, but it won't
surface yet.

If these suggestions don't work, let me know and I'll see if I can find my
old OE notes.

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Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 1:26 PM
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Cc: Mario
Subject: deleting XP OE email

a friend of mine is getting a new laptop later in the week, but in the
meantime, she's using her old xp computer with OE and is trying to delete
email. she presses delete on it and JAWS just says delete, and doesn't get
any error message, and the email just sits there in the inbox. any
suggestions on how to get rid of the stubborn email?


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RE: reading screen

2015-07-31 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
You may need to press Enter before pressing F6.

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Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 4:17 PM
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Cc: Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com
Subject: reading screen

I went into jaws help by hitting f1.
When I picked the subject and then hit f6 to read the screen, it did not
read it as I hit up or down arrow. I had to hitinsert plus 8 on the num pad
to read the current line.
Did I change something in my jaws setting What do I need to change so jaws
will read line by line as I go through the help menus?

What is the short cut key to have jaws tell me what key I am hitting?

Mark
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RE: Tutorial on Outlook 2013 with Jaws?

2015-07-31 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
JAWS has a help topic on Outlook, which you can access by pressing Insert F1
twice quickly from within Outlook.  Among other topics, the help covers
recommended Outlooks settings for the most accessible experience.

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Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 4:53 PM
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Cc: Cliff Self cl...@cablespeed.com
Subject: Tutorial on Outlook 2013 with Jaws?

Is there a comprehensive turtorial on using Outlook 2013 with Jaws?  My I SP
recently forced me to give up my comfortable Outlook Express, and I'm now
flying blind, so to speak, with Outlook.  I've combed the Freedom Scientific
website, and there's some useful info there, but I can't find anything on
the basics, like configuring Outlook to work easily with Jaws.  Such a
tutorial might save a bunch of traffic on this list.

 

Thanks,

 

Cliff

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RE: Google Docs

2015-07-28 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Lee Anne,

FreedomScientific will hold a series of free webinars on Google Docs in
August.  I strongly recommend you sign up for these webinars at
www.freedomscientific.com/training.  Even if you can't participate in the
live events, you can listen to the archives at your leisure.

Best,

Michal

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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Lee Anne Atkinson lee.atkin...@att.net
Subject: Google Docs

Good afternoon all,  

 

I will be switching companies soon and much of their information is stored
in Google Docs.  I have never used this before nor Gmail nor Google
Hangouts, so I am a complete newbie to this.  Is it accessible to JAWS?  I
am hesitant to dive in as I recall hearing less than stellar reviews on the
list in the past.  Thoughts or suggestions?  

 

Thanks!

 

Lee Anne 

 

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RE: jaws page:

2015-07-27 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I believe the SMA gives you two upgrades for the price of one.

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Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:05 PM
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Cc: Kimsan kimsans...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: jaws page:

How much is the discount?
I think, if memory serves, we have until the end of October to pay it?


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Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 10:48 AM
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Cc: Michael B. mb69ma...@charter.net
Subject: Re: jaws page:

Hi Ariel,

If you have any SMA upgrades available to you, for example I have 1 SMA
upgrade left, which I'll use for Jaws 17.  Then, after I use that upgrade
for J17, I'll buy the SMA's for J18  J19.  When you buy the SMA's ahead of
time you get a discount, but you don't buy any SMA's until you are out of
SMA upgrades.  So, after I buy the J18 / J19 SMA, I'll buy the SMA's for J20
 J21 after I use the J19 upgrade.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: jaws page:


I'm afraid that the ones of us going into 17 and needing an SMA are going to
have to bite the bullet LOL - hope I'm wrong there, doubt it.

Best to you from,

Carolyn

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Cc: Ariel accessibleknowle...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: jaws page:


 Hello,
 While on the topic of Windows 10, I would like to ask a question about
 JAWS 17. My question is, if I renew my MSA, would 17 count against my
 upgrades available, or would the upgrade not count against my MSA since we
 are close to the time that new versions are usually released? Any info
 will be greatly appreciate it! Thanks,
 Ariel
  On 7/26/2015 10:19 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw wrote:
 At this point, I suspect the page won't be abailable until Windows 10 is
 officially released on July 29.

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 Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 11:08 PM
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 Subject: Re: jaws page:

 Hi:
 Haven't seen a page,
 but FSCcast 109 covers some of the info.
 You would have to fast forward about half way through.


 On 7/23/2015 10:09 PM, Kenny via Jfw wrote:
 Hi Has any one seen the page on freedomscientific's website about the
 information on upgrading to windows 10?
 Kenny Peyatt

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RE: jaws scripts for itunes?

2015-07-26 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Yes, BlindTunes.

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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes?  This new version of itunes is harder for
me that the one I had.
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RE: Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro.

2015-07-26 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
JAWS cannot be installed on an Android device.

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Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 8:30 PM
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Cc: Carliss seeje...@satx.rr.com
Subject: Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro.

Listers,

I just bought me this Tablit, however, I need the tutorial for the touch
screen, does that exist? I hope so.  It's the top of the line Android.

Is there away to put jaws on this unit.  I don't really mind using the text
to speech program, but if I could use jaws, I might.

Thanks to all.

 

Carliss

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RE: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?

2015-07-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Carolyn and All,

Unfortunately, the reply to sender command no longer works in messages
posted to this list.  I suspect this is for security reasons, as members'
e-mail addresses now seem to be hidden.  Perhaps the list moderator can
confirm this?

Michal

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via Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 4:34 PM
To: Daniel McBride via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?

Daniel, Control Shift R says I am replying directly to sender; I hope so. My

e-mail address is

4carol...@windstream.net.

Sorry list if this went to everybody.

Best to you from,

Carolyn

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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Daniel McBride dlm...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?


 Carolyn:

 Would you please contact me off list? Thanks.

 Daniel McBride
 dlm...@sbcglobal.net

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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn 
 Arnold
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:58 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Carolyn Arnold
 Subject: Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?

 Right about that blasted Vista - yuck! It has been enough to make me cling
 to XP way longer than I should have.

 Best to you from,

 Carolyn

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 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Ward Dudley whdud...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:32 PM
 Subject: Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?


 That totally depends on who you ask.  LOLVista was also a bad one.

 Ward

 On 7/23/2015 6:18 PM, Bill White via Jfw wrote:
 Exactly how bad are you, Ward?
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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 Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?


 8 was almost as bad as ME

 On 7/23/2015 3:01 PM, Maria Campbell via Jfw wrote:
 Windows 8 happened to Windows 9.  It was so bad MS decided to skip 9
 altogether.


 On 7/23/2015 3:29 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm still on Windows 7. I hear a lot of talk about Windows 8.1 and
 Windows 10. Was Windows 9 a bust or something?

 Thanks, Keith

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RE: bounces

2015-07-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
When I studied at the Illinois School for the Visually Impaired, a
residential school specializing in teaching adaptive skills, I was in one of
the most restrictive computer environments imaginable.  Students were
prohibited from visiting any site that requires them to enter their personal
information (e.g.  online stores and all sites requiring users to log in),
and many web pages, including Google, were completely blocked.  As for
e-mail, all attachments with nontextual extensions (photos, music, videos,
etc.) were filtered out to prevent school computers from catching a virus.
Moreover, all traffic from outside the state network was marked as spam,
unless the address was in the user's contacts.

That being said, I strongly suspect your e-mail administrator's settings
interfere with your communication on this list.  While there may be a
setting you can change yourself, I'm afraid the matter lies in the hands of
the state, which may have to work with the list administrator.  I'm sorry I
can't be of greater assistance, but I hope your issues get resolved quickly.

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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 10:58 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. (jfw@lists.the-jdh.com)
jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov
Subject: bounces

This is really for the administrator, so I'd be happy to go off list.  I
just had to resubscribe, due to too many bounces.  Anybody care to elaborate
on that?  This is my state e-mail account.  I just process them-read them,
delete them, respond to them, whatever.  Is there anything I can do to
prevent this from happening?

I've had some strange experiences.  A certain number of these messages wind
up in quarantine, or in junk mail.  Once everything was funneled  to junk
for several months; I thought I'd been dropped, and couldn't figure out why.
Now this.

Ted

Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X
2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.


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RE: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?

2015-07-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
It used to work until a few months ago.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 9:59 PM
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Cc: Melissa Stott mstot...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?

I have noticed that sending directly to sender does not work at all for me.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 
 That is my problem - try as I might, I can't find a sender's address,
which is why in a couple of instances I have provided mine in the e-mail.
Thanks for clarification. The strange thing is that JAWS says it is going
directly to the sender. I guess it thinks that, that is if JAWS thinks.
 
 Best to you from,
 
 Carolyn
 
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jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Michal Nowicki mnowic...@icloud.com
 Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 9:01 PM
 Subject: RE: Just curious -- what happened to Windows 9?
 
 
 Carolyn and All,
 
 Unfortunately, the reply to sender command no longer works in messages
 posted to this list.  I suspect this is for security reasons, as members'
 e-mail addresses now seem to be hidden.  Perhaps the list moderator can
 confirm this?
 
 Michal
 
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 Right about that blasted Vista - yuck! It has been enough to make me
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RE: Spelling on word 2013

2015-07-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Microsoft unfortunately introduced some accessibility issues in Word 2013,
and navigating the spell checker is probably the biggest of these problems.
For instance, JAWS no longer announces spelling errors automatically every
time; sometimes you must press Tab and Shift Tab to accomplish this task.
Additionally, the spellcheck hotkeys (ignore, change, ignore all, etc.) no
longer work, though pressing them without the Alt key (I = ignore, c =
change, etc.) does the trick sometimes.

I hope Microsoft addresses these accessibility barriers in Office 2016.
Meanwhile, I hope the above observations help.

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Subject: Spelling on word 2013

Hi all,
Probably this question is a little bit stupid, but I don't see the way to
get what I need.
On Microsoft Word 2015, specifically on Office 365, when I press F7, to use
the spelling features, the dialog that opens is very different than that
appears on Outlook 2013. In the dialog on word 2013, doesn't appear the list
of suggestions. I tried to search the dialog using the OCR, even though it
didn't see anything like list of suggestions in this window. It doesn't
exist, or exist a keystroke to go to the list of suggestions?
Thanks for any advice.


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RE: jaws page:

2015-07-23 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I just did a quick Google search for it, but I didn't find anything.  I
assume it is not yet available.

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Subject: jaws page:

Hi Has any one seen the page on freedomscientific's website about the
information on upgrading to windows 10?
Kenny Peyatt

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RE: Which Firefox and Crome versions with JAWS 12.

2015-07-21 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Since Crome is a modern browser, I don't know if JAWS 12 works with any
version.  However, even if it does, the support is probably very basic.

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Subject: Which Firefox and Crome versions with JAWS 12.

Hi and thanks in advance.

 

How  well does JAWS 12 work with

Firefox version 39, and

With Crome version 43?

 

Also  has any one successfully used JAWS 15 with  I  E 10?

 

Has the  editfield issue with JAWS 15 on web pages been solved?

 

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RE: How many characters can be in a folder or file name in Win 7?

2015-07-19 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Spaces are allowed.

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Subject: How many characters can be in a folder or file name in Win 7?

Hi,

I'm planning some hard drive folder / file management.

How long can folder names and file names be in Windows 7? Are spaces
permitted?

Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: Please remind me how and where to enable webpage keystrokes.

2015-07-18 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Exactly! And I just want to remind everyone that this feature was introduced
in JAWS 16.  So, if you are using an earlier version, you must upgrade to
take advantage of this functionality.

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Subject: Re: Please remind me how and where to enable webpage keystrokes.

so, it's like bypass mode for a webpage, passing on the keystroke to the
webpage's use?


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 Hi Daniel,

 For the record, something I've said especially since beginning to learn
how
 to use a computer.  There is no such thing as a stupid question.  The only
 stupid question, is the 1 that isn't asked!

 Now, the answer to your question:

 Certain interactive Web sites may offer hot keys to perform some common
 tasks. For example, on the Facebook Web site you can press P to post a
 status, L to like a story, C to comment on a story, or J and K to scroll
 between News Feed stories. However, these keystrokes also conflict with
JAWS
 Navigation Quick Keys.
 When this check box is selected, any JAWS keystrokes that are also defined
 as hot keys by a Web site will perform the site specific task instead of
the
 JAWS command. This check box is cleared by default
 Take care.
 Mike
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 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:12 AM
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 Okay Group, here is the first stupid question of the day.

 What would be the purpose for enabling application keystrokes
 on a webpage?

 Daniel

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 Thanks Michael, The info for getting to setting for all applications
from
 the settings, worked great. Verry well explained.

 Barbara H.



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RE: Facebook Accessibility for Users with Visual Impairments

2015-07-15 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Facebook is definitely promoting the main site!

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Just a touch confused.  Are they saying accessibility should be through the
main FB  site?  Or are they promoting accessibility through the mobile FB?

Andre

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Subject: Fw: Facebook Accessibility for Users with Visual Impairments 



Remember, life is what you make it,

Carolyn

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From: Victoria
To: Portia Mason ; Debbie Ghee Logan
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:02 AM
Subject: Facebook Accessibility for Users with Visual Impairments 


 

 

 

Facebook Accessibility for Users with Visual Impairments: What Facebook
Wants You to Know, by Bill Holton 

 

 

Reprinted with permission from AccessWorld, vol. 16 no. 4, April 2015.

  

 Facebook is an excellent way to keep in touch with friends and family. For
users of computer and mobile access technologies, however, at times, there
can be challenges. The company continuously evolves its products, which can
introduce changes to screen-reader flow. So, in order to help readers more
fully enjoy their Facebook experience, we are excited to offer the following
information.

  

 Thanks to consumer feedback, and working with several organizations,
including the American Foundation for the Blind (AFB), Facebook has taken
accessibility to a whole new level. In July of 2011, the company formed the
Facebook Accessibility Team to improve its support of accessibility across
products. Recently, AccessWorld spoke with team founder Jeff Wieland and
accessibility engineer Ramya Sethuraman, who offered us a top-10 list of
things they'd like readers to know about Facebook's accessibility program
and products.

 

Facebook Offers Extensive Keyboard Navigation

 

For computer users who do not use a mouse, including most screen-reader
users, the main Facebook web site makes extensive use of headings,
landmarks, and lists, which can be easily navigated with your screen-reader
navigation keys. Additionally, the main Facebook web site also offers an
extensive roster of Access and Shortcut keys to help you navigate the site
and quickly perform actions, such as liking, searching, and sharing.

 

Access Keys

 

Access keys let you jump quickly from page to page [within Facebook] with a
single key combination and without having to tab down to or search for the
appropriate control, says Wieland.

 

Key combinations vary by browser and/or system:

. Chrome for PC users combine the ALT key with the access keys listed below.

. IE users combine the ALT key with the access keys listed below, completing
each command by pressing the Enter key.

. Firefox for PC users press Shift + ALT in combination with the access keys
listed below.

. Mac users press Control + Option in combination with the command keys
below.

 

Facebook Access Keys  

. Home: 1

. Timeline: 2

. Friends: 3

. Inbox: 4

. Notifications: 5

. Settings: 6

. Activity Log: 7

. About: 8

. Terms: 9

. Help: 0

 

Shortcut Keys

 

Much the same way as most screen readers offer single-key navigation
shortcuts to help you quickly find your way around a web page, Facebook
offers a number of single-key commands to perform various actions. Many of
these shortcut keys conflict with browser keys, however, so for now, at
least, you will have to either use your screen reader pass-through command,
or turn off enhanced browser navigation (Forms Mode in JAWS, Focus Mode in
NVDA, and Browser Mode in Window-Eyes).

  

 If you happen to be in an edit box, or on some other pop-up control, you
may have to tab away or close the dialogue before using the shortcuts, says
Wieland.

 

Facebook News Feed Shortcuts  

. Scroll forward through News Feed stories: j

. Scroll backward through News Feed stories: k

. See more of the selected story: Enter/Return

. Post a new status: p

. Like or unlike the selected story: l

. Comment on the selected story: c

. Share the selected story: s

. Open an attachment from the selected story: o

. Search: /

. Search chat contacts: q

. Open a list of these keyboard shortcuts while in News Feed: ?

 

Facebook Messenger Shortcuts   

. Search conversations: CTRL + g

. Show/hide keyboard shortcuts: CTRL + q

. Archive/unarchive conversation: CTRL + Delete

. Mark as spam: CTRL + j

. Start a new message: CTRL + m

. Go to Inbox: CTRL + i

. Go to Other: CTRL + u

 

Facebook Is Making Photos and Videos More Accessible

 

We're still rolling out the Dynamic Alt Text Generator to more products
that 

RE: jaws not working properly

2015-07-15 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
 character by character to make sure you have put in the proper 
spaces,
Forward  back slashes and text.  press the home key to go to the front of
the title and press enter to start the repair.

A 2nd way to do the same thing.
From: Brian Lee
Hello Jim,

You might have already resolved the problem, but if not here is a link 
that
you can use to download the newest update for your 64-bit installation of
JAWS.  Information about performing the repair is shown below after the
download link.



ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J11.0.1430-
64
bit.exe



After downloading the file you can do the following steps to repair the
installation:



1.  Use Windows key with R to bring up the run dialog box.

2.  Use tab key to the browse button and press spacebar.

3.  Browse to the downloaded JAWS setup file and press enter key.

4.  Use tab key to move to where JAWS says open colon edit combo, press
the end key and then press spacebar.

5.  Type in /Type repair, (that is first type a slash followed immediately
by the word type then a space and then the word repair.

6.  Use tab key to the OK button and press enter key.

7.  Follow the prompts.

Take care.
Brian Lee

Take care.
Mike
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From: Rick Miller via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. ; The Jaws for Windows support 
list.
Cc: Rick Miller
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: jaws not working properly


How do you go about doing the JAWS Repair?  I am having a problem I think
might have to be solved by doing the repair.

Rick Miller


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Sent: Jul 13, 2015 5:10 AM
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Subject: Re: jaws not working properly

Thanks I'll follow the repair root.

On 13/07/2015, Feliciano Godoy via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 If jaws is set to show in the system tray, the jaws user interface can
 be
 loaded by pressing insert plus Jay. If closing the jaws  program and
 re-opening it does not work, try to restart the computer. If you still
 cannot bring up the jaws user interface by pressing insert plus Jay, 
 you
 will have to repairjaws or reinstall the software.

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 On  Jul 12, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Michael B. via Jfw
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 wrote:

 Hi Aidan,

 Do you have Jaws set to run from the System Tray?  If so, is Jaws for
 Windows in the System Tray?  If it isn't in the System Tray the, 
 Insert
 +
 J,
 keystroke won't work.
 Take care.
 Mike
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 Cc: Michal Nowicki
 Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 3:37 PM
 Subject: RE: jaws not working properly


 Did you restart JAWS?  Did you reboot the computer?

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 via
 Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 8:31 AM
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 Cc: Aidan
 Subject: jaws not working properly

 Hello, I am running jaws 16 (latest built). When pressing insert j, my
 jaws
 menu don't open. Neither it does open when selecting the jaws from the
 startmenu or the desktop shortcut. Any ideas?
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RE: jaws not working properly

2015-07-13 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
If I were you, I wouldn't bother with the repair.  Instead, I would
uninstall and reinstall JAWS, as someone on this list previously mentioned
that repairs don't usually solve problems.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 2:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Rick Miller
Subject: Re: jaws not working properly

How do you go about doing the JAWS Repair?  I am having a problem I think
might have to be solved by doing the repair.

Rick Miller


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Sent: Jul 13, 2015 5:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Aidan aidan.smartt...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: jaws not working properly

Thanks I'll follow the repair root.

On 13/07/2015, Feliciano Godoy via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 If jaws is set to show in the system tray, the jaws user interface 
 can be loaded by pressing insert plus Jay. If closing the jaws  
 program and re-opening it does not work, try to restart the computer. 
 If you still cannot bring up the jaws user interface by pressing 
 insert plus Jay, you will have to repairjaws or reinstall the software.

 Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE 
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 On  Jul 12, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Michael B. via Jfw 
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 wrote:

 Hi Aidan,

 Do you have Jaws set to run from the System Tray?  If so, is Jaws 
 for Windows in the System Tray?  If it isn't in the System Tray the, 
 Insert + J, keystroke won't work.
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

 - Original Message -
 From: Michal Nowicki via Jfw
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Michal Nowicki
 Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 3:37 PM
 Subject: RE: jaws not working properly


 Did you restart JAWS?  Did you reboot the computer?

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 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 8:31 AM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Aidan
 Subject: jaws not working properly

 Hello, I am running jaws 16 (latest built). When pressing insert j, 
 my jaws menu don't open. Neither it does open when selecting the 
 jaws from the startmenu or the desktop shortcut. Any ideas?
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RE: Word 2010 menus reading blank unless in file menu

2015-07-04 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
You may have accidentally hidden the ribbons.  I believe the keyboard
shortcut to hide/show the ribbon is either Shift F1, or Shift Alt F1, but
I'm not 100% sure.  Hopefully, someone on this list can clarify.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of toml614 via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 6:32 PM
To: Mario via Jfw
Cc: toml614
Subject: Word 2010 menus reading blank unless in file menu

Happy fourth of July to people in US. Jaws is giving me blanks when in
menus. This is with exception of the file menu. It only happens in word
2010. I am running Jaws 16 windows 8.1 64 bit machine. Any help would be
apresaited. Thanks, Tom Iowa Sent from my T-Mobile Android device

On Jul 4, 2015 10:26 AM, Mario via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 thanks David. 

 On 7/3/2015 6:35 AM, David Bailes via Jfw wrote: 
  Hi Mario,
  When you're searching for files using the start menu, if a file is the
first search result, then it isn't automatically selected, and Jaws doesn't
read it out. If you press down arrow three times, you'll move to the first
search result, and you can then carry on pressing down arrow to move through
all the results. 
  Once you've selected the file, and if you want its path, then you can
either: 
  1. open the context menu, choose open file location, and windows
explorer will open at that location. 
  2. Or press shift+application key to open the extended context menu, and
choose copy as path. You can then open a text editor and paste the path. 
  
  David. 
  
  original message: 
  Dave, that's what I thought what would happen, but nothing is spoken 
  as I type a filename.
  
  searching for everything else works as expected. I suspect there's a 
  setting somewhere that needs enabling,, but haven't got any idea 
  where to look.
  
  
  On 6/29/2015 11:23 AM, Dave Carlson via Jfw wrote: 
  Once you enter all or part of the filename, the search will come up 
  with different categories, such as files, documents, messages, etc. 
  Just use your cursor arrow keys to move up and down through the 
  list to see if your file shows up.
  
  Dave Carlson
  Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer
  
  
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RE: What is the JAWS way to jump over the junk at the top of a websites pages?

2015-07-04 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I'm afraid there is no single method that works for all websites, but
consider trying one or more of the following:
1.  When you locate the main content, create a JAWS placemarker to mark the
spot.  Be sure to apply it to the entire domain and to uncheck the anchor
to text checkbox if it is checked.
2.  Use Flexible Web to create a rule telling JAWS where to start reading.
Make sure it applies to the entire website.
3.  See if you can quickly skip past all the navigation links by repeatedly
pressing the letter n, which takes you to the next block of non-link text.
4.  If none of these options prove practical for you, perhaps you can use
other HTML elements to find the main content, such as ARIA regions, lists,
form controls, frames, or buttons.

I hope this helps.

Michal

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Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 5:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: What is the JAWS way to jump over the junk at the top of a websites
pages?

Hi,

I'm using a site that has about 25 lines of the same gobbeldy gook at the
top of each of the pages throughout it's site.

What is the way to set it up so JAWS skips all that stuff when I go to any
page on their site? They have several headings and search fields  within
those first 25 lines.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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RE: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links + What's New In This Build

2015-07-02 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I never encountered this issue.  I haven't heard about anyone else having it
either, so I have no clue what might be causing it.  The only possible
solutions I can think of at this time are running a JAWS repair or, better
yet, uninstalling JAWS (along with all shared components) and reinstalling
from scratch.  Good luck!

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of cecropia64---
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 2:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: cecropi...@att.net
Subject: Re: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links + What's New
In This Build

No, I'm talking about when I install a new Jaws update.  It switches over to
the voice I have on my computer instead of using the eloquence voice I use
for Jaws.  It''s real weird considering it didn't happen when I first
started getting updates for Jaws.

On 7/2/2015 3:19 PM, Kimsan via Jfw wrote:
 I should try out skype and see if I can duplicate your experience.  As 
 far as stew is concerned, is he talking aboot when he downloads stuff 
 in genteral when the windows voice comes on?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ward 
 Dudley via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 8:52 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Ward Dudley
 Subject: Re: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links + 
 What's New In This Build

 Skype is sluggy and you cannot read what someone wrote you using the 
 JAWS Cursor.  JAWS 15 is faster using my Windows 7 machine.  Other 
 than that it seems to be working good.

 Ward

 On 7/2/2015 9:18 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw wrote:
 Jaws continues on mine, Windows 7  64 bit Cheers Kevin.

 -Original Message- From: cecropia64--- via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:31 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: cecropi...@att.net
 Subject: Re: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links + 
 What's New InThis Build

 Just installed it and no problems here.  But I don't seem to have any 
 problems with any of the new updates.  The only thing I don't really 
 like is that when the download starts, JAWS eloquence stops and the 
 Windows voice kicks in.  It never was like this before. Anyone have 
 an idea as to why this happens?

 stew

 On 7/2/2015 5:44 AM, Melissa Stott via Jfw wrote:
 No problems so far.

 -Original Message- From: Kimsan via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:08 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Kimsan
 Subject: RE: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released,Download Links + 
 What's New In This Build

 Has anyone experience jaws pausing with this latest update?

 I have not thank god.

 Also, so it works with windows 10?

 I'm going to take things slow this time and not jump the gun, and 
 will only upgrade if/when I have too.

 And yes, I am aware the upgrade is free for the first year, so I 
 guess I have to upgrae after a year lol.
 Take care jaws users!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of 
 Michael B. via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 2:40 PM
 To: JFW List
 Cc: Michael B.
 Subject: New Jaws 16.0.4350 Build Released, Download Links + What's 
 New In This Build

 Hi All,

 Below are the download links  what's new:

 32 Bit:

 http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.4350enu-x86.e
 x
 e

 64 Bit:

 http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.4350enu-x64.e
 x
 e

 What's New:

 Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4350 (July 2015)

 The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 
 June
 2015
 release and the July 2015 update.

 list of 4 items
 . Fixed an issue in Windows Live Mail that was introduced in the 
 June update where JAWS was speaking information unrelated to the 
 email you were composing or reading.
 . JAWS will install and run correctly with Windows 10 releases. JAWS
 16.0.4350 is the first build targeted for use in Windows 10. Anyone 
 planning on updating must first update to this build or higher.
 . Resolved an issue where Research It was not yielding any results 
 in the Wikipedia lookup source.
 . Resolved a reported  issue related to the JAWS Function:
 GetAccessibleSelectionFromContext.
 list end

 HTH
 Take care.
 Mike
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RE: Scanners.

2015-06-25 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Carolyn,

I am by no means an expert on scanners, but whatever you get, you need to
understand that scanning requires both hardware (the scanner) and software
(a computer program that makes use of the scanner).  OpenBook is not a
scanner.  Instead, it is scanning and OCR software that works with many
scanners.

If I understand your post correctly, you are considering purchasing an
all-in-one printer, fax, and scanner.  While such products work great for
sighted individuals, I'm not sure how many of them, if any, can be operated
nonvisually.  For example, I know that some all-in-one devices have an
inaccessible touch screen, and it is not possible to control them from a
computer.  That said, it may be better for you to buy two or three pieces of
equipment if, of course, you can afford it.  I also recommend scanners with
an automatic feeder.

I hope this helps, and I'm sorry I cannot provide specific advice (e.g.
with regards to device models).

Michal

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Scanners.

When I get my new computer at the end of the year or beginning of next, I
intend to get a printer with fax and scanning capability. 

So, I'm wondering, as a totally blind user of JAWS, is there a special
scanner I have to get for it to be accessible? Are some scanners out there
more accessible than others?

What is Open Book? I have heard of it. Would I be limited to getting that or
something like that? 

Thanks. 

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn
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RE: Jaws 16 issue with touch screen at login

2015-06-25 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Did you try enabling the touch cursor?  When enabled, the touch cursor allows 
you to simulate touch gestures using keyboard commands.  For instance, pressing 
the left and right arrow keys is equivalent to swiping left and right, 
respectively.  While the touch cursor was developed primarily to facilitate 
navigation in modern apps, it may help you get into Windows.  Let us know if it 
does.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell 
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Jaws 16 issue with touch screen at login

Hi everyone,

I am running Jaws 16 on a Lenovo Yoga Pro2 laptop. It has a touch screen, which 
I hardly ever use. I am running into an issue when my laptop goes to sleep. It 
goes to the Windows lockscreen. In the past all I had to do was press the power 
button on my laptop and I would be taken to the Windows lock screen where I 
could simply tab to the password field, enter my password, and I’d be right 
where I left off when my laptop went to sleep.

Now, however, every time my laptop goes to sleep, when I press the power button 
nothing seems to happen. If I touch the screen though, Jaws is running and I 
can swipe to the various choices, i.e. password, shutdown, etc. but I cannot do 
anything. Double-tapping on the password field does nothing. Double-tapping on 
the shutdown button does nothing. And, nothing happens when I try to use the 
keyboard. It’s as if Jaws is in touch screen mode and the keyboard is not at 
all active. I called FS, and the guy there didn’t have a clue as to what to do. 
He suggested that I turn off the lock screen. I may do this, but at the moment 
I cannot get in to Windows at all. I press and hold the power button to turn 
off my laptop, but, when I turn it on, nothing happens… not evenwhen I touch 
the screen.

So, my question… is there a keystroke I may have accidentally pressed to put 
Jaws in some sort of touch screen mode? 

Thanks for any and all ideas!

Russell
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FSCast 109

2015-06-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Hello Everyone,

 

Many of you recently inquired on this list about JAWS compatibility with
Windows 10.  If you are one of these people, or if you are unsure whether or
not it is a good idea to upgrade because of accessibility concerns, I have
great news.  In FSCast episode 109, Glen Gordon assures FS customers that
JAWS and Magic will be ready for Windows 10 when it is released on July 29.
For those who don't know, FSCast is FreedomScientific's monthly podcast.
All FSCast episodes, including episode 109, can be accessed on-line at
www.freedomscientific.com/fscast http://www.freedomscientific.com/fscast .
You can also subscribe to the podcast via iTunes.

 

Best,

 

Michal

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RE: Netflix

2015-06-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
That's a valid point, and I apologize if I offended anyone.  I just thought
the inquiry was about what iOS is, not what the acronym stands for.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 2:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Netflix

I don't think it serves any purpose to tell someone that something doesn't 
matter. That being said, Here is what I found at freedictionary.com

iPhone Operating System (Apple)

Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michal Nowicki mnowic...@icloud.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: Netflix


It doesn't matter what it stands for.  The important thing is that it's
Apple's mobile operating system.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Netflix

In that case, the i if for integrated.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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From: Cristóbal via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: Netflix


 Apples i-device operating system. iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
 McBride
 via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:47 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: RE: Netflix

 Jenny:

 You say that app for iOS works fine. What is iOS?

 Daniel

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 Eachus
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 11:37 PM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Gennie Eachus
 Subject: Netflix

 Good news! App for iOS works fine.



 In defense of Netflix, they have always fixed problems in the past. I just
 wish that they would fix problems before they break them.



 I have subscribed to Netflix for many years. There have been several bad
 sites. Eventually, they did fix them. So there is hope.



 Gennie

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RE: Netflix

2015-06-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
It doesn't matter what it stands for.  The important thing is that it's
Apple's mobile operating system.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Netflix

In that case, the i if for integrated.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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From: Cristóbal via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: Netflix


 Apples i-device operating system. iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel 
 McBride
 via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:47 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Daniel McBride
 Subject: RE: Netflix

 Jenny:

 You say that app for iOS works fine. What is iOS?

 Daniel

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gennie 
 Eachus
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 11:37 PM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Gennie Eachus
 Subject: Netflix

 Good news! App for iOS works fine.



 In defense of Netflix, they have always fixed problems in the past. I just
 wish that they would fix problems before they break them.



 I have subscribed to Netflix for many years. There have been several bad
 sites. Eventually, they did fix them. So there is hope.



 Gennie

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RE: 3 email address's

2015-06-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Hi Joe,

I've never worked with Windows Live Mail because I have always used either
Outlook or webmail services, but you may still find the below tip helpful.
In Outlook, when you start typing in the to field, JAWS will announce the
selected contact as it pops up.  Based on your post, this is also the case
in Windows Live Mail.  When this happens, try pressing down arrow to
navigate to the e-mail address you wish to insert into your message.  For
instance, referring to your example, when you type Joe and Joe's first
e-mail address is selected, see if down arrowing will get you to the other
ones.  Let us know if this works for you.

Michal

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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:35 PM
To: jaws users
Cc: stinton...@btinternet.com
Subject: 3 email address's

Hi all 

I am using windows 7 and jaws 12
in windows live mail for one of my contacts I have 3 e mail address in my
address book for them, but I cant work out how to use the second or third
address, so for example I type Joe it then brings up the first address but
how do i get it to use the second or third address.

hope this makes some sort of sense Joe  
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RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release

2015-06-22 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Installation went smoothly for me.

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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience brought
back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure to
have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release

2015-06-22 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Unlike earlier versions, Windows 8.1 installs security updates automatically
upon system shut down or restart when such updates are available.  This may
explain why it sometimes takes longer for computers to reboot following a
JAWS update

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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:18 PM
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Cc: Soronel Haetir
Subject: Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release

Hi,

I've noticed lately that most reboots after installation take significantly
longer than I would expect (even taking into account that reboot after
install won't have the normal decreased boot time associated with win8.1).
Given how simply turning off a booting system is one of the few remaining
ways to mess up an operating system install I would suggest waiting much
longer than five minutes before assuming that the reboot is hung. My jaws
upgrade took close to that today and I've had a few MS updates take more
than 20 minutes after reboot, but the point is that the system did
eventually come around.

On 6/22/15, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. 
 Against my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As 
 usual, I was required to reboot on completion. After about five 
 minutes, I decided something was wrong because the rebooting process 
 got hung. So I shut down the PC and restarted. It took a while, but 
 eventually the PC came back to life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a 
 good result, but the experience brought back bad memories of earlier 
 JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure to have sighted 
 assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in case. I
wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release

2015-06-22 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I always use the automatic updater and have not had any problems with it for
years.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 2:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Michael B.
Subject: Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release

Hi Adrian,

Did you use the Jaws automatic updater?  If so, that is most likely the
problem.  I sent another message to the list with the direct download links
 what's new in this latest release.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:35 AM
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release


When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against 
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was 
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided 
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down 
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to 
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience brought

back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure to

have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in 
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release

2015-06-22 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
To see if you have the latest update for JAWS 14, open the JAWS help menu
and select check for updates. This works in all versions of JAWS that have
come out since the feature was introduced several years ago.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release

If this new release does not automatically appear on my desktop, where do I
go to get the download?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Lee Anne Atkinson
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release

I did the update this morning without much difficulty...  I have not noticed
much difference in Jaws but it updated easily.  

Lee Anne

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience brought
back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure to
have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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RE: Keeping Up With Technology

2015-06-22 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Skipping five or so versions is not cheaper if, all of a sudden, a new
version comes out containing something you really want or need.  It would be
cheaper if FS charged a flat upgrade fee, but that's not the case; the older
the version, the greater the cost of upgrading to the newest release.  That
is why I always keep my license up-to-date, even if a particular release
does not contain any new features I feel I'll need.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology

I can't really fault Freedom Scientific for this. Designers do crazier and
crazier things with software and websites every day, and the people at FS
aren't psychic. It's been this way since before I got into computers I'm
sure, and that was 1992. You can't redesign software to fix a problem until
the problem exists. So what happens. A new version of Windows comes out, and
then JAWS has to be rewritten to handle the new stuff. A new version of
Office comes out replacing menus with ribbons, and again, the software has
to be rewritten to deal with the new layout. Netflix changes their website,
and again something has to be tweaked to handle the new wrinkle. If the site
designer would use Alt tags on their graphics, graphical links wouldn't be
an issue.

The other side of that coin is that you have to do your part, and that means
updating to the latest version of JAWS if you want the latest fixes to the
latest problems. I don't generally update to every new release, because for
what I do, I can usually skip five or so versions. 
It's cheaper that way, and I don't feel like I'm missing out. If you're more
on the cutting edge of technology, you may have to update more frequently.

Which brings me to my final point of the night. People gripe about the cost
of assistive technology, but as rapidly as things change, programmers are
always having to work writing code to accommodate those new features and
problems. And unlike, say, Microsoft Office, which people use by the
millions and millions of copies, assistive technology has an extremely small
market share. People want the very latest and greatest, and they want the
software authors to work for free.

Is what we have perfect? No. But if you were using JAWS back in the days of
Internet Explorer 3.0, you remember when the only way to read a news article
was with the JAWS cursor (there was no virtual cursor), and you had to read
three or four columns of articles at one time with all the stories mixed
together. We've come soo far since 1997 when I started teaching people
how to use the Internet. When you step back eighteen years, it's really
quite amazing how rapidly our technology catches up with the rest of the
world compared to how long it used to take.

Brad

On 6/22/2015 6:25 PM, Kevin Wollenweber via Jfw wrote:
 You know, with all the hardships that I read within this EList, 
 especially regarding Netflix and other such sites-I know I'm having my 
 share of woes regarding these-I think the fault lay not only with 
 sites like Netflix that change configurations as often as they change 
 their underwear, but also with Freedom Scientific for not keeping the 
 programs compatible and current with a lot of new programs and 
 changing graphics.  If screenreaders were able to recognize changing
graphics, I think things would be a lot more accessible.
 No one saw this Netflix change coming; I mean, the site is definitely 
 changed completely to the point where I cannot find my DVD queue; if 
 they were phasing out the DVD queue, news of this should have been 
 announced to subscribers long ago, but if this is merely a 
 configuration issue where more is made of graphics, well, then I guess 
 that, right now, they'll lose a lot of subscribers who can't figure 
 out the situation, but my hope is that screenreading software is 
 keeping up with the times, because they're certainly *NOT* slowing down
for us.

   

 Kevin

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RE: getting Skype off of task bar

2015-06-22 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
As I noted previously, Skype can also be closed from the Task Bar (without
worrying about System Tray icons at all).  On a Windows 8 machine, the task
bar can be accessed by pressing Windows T.  You can then navigate to the
Skype icon using the left or right arrow keys.  When you land on Skype,
press the application key or right mouse button, and choose quit Skype
from the context menu.  You will be presented with a dialogue box asking you
if you are sure you wish to close the program.  Activate the quit button,
and Skype should be properly closed.  I hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: getting Skype off of task bar

Daniel,

It sounds as though your system tray is set to hide some icons. Below are
instructions for how to reveal them in Windows 7. I believe they originated
with David Bailes, and I added notes from my own experience when I went
through the process some years ago.

Open start menu properties with Win key, escape, alt-enter. 

In the first dialog, tab to and press the Notification Area Customize
button. I found that the list of options appears when I shit-tabbed once. 

The first item there is always turn on all icons. I pressed the spacebar on
it, then tabbed to Okay.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:10 PM
To: Jaws User Group
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: getting Skype off of task bar

Earlier today someone posted instructions for getting Skype off of your task
bar completely.

The first instruction was to access Select A System Tray Icon and arrow down
to Skype.

I tried this. After entering Insert F11, I have only 4 choices to arrow to.
They are Get Windows 10, Solve PC Issues, Network 5 Internet Access and
Speakers.

So, will the instructions not work for JAWS 14?


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RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook 2007

2015-06-20 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Let us know if it works in Groupwise.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell 
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook 2007

Hi Bill,

Thanks. I mostly use a Mac at home now, and at work we use Groupwise for email, 
so I guess I’ve fallen a bit behind with the Outlook world! :) I really like 
the method of pasting attachments directly into the body of an email, and am 
glad this is possible in Windows. I’ll have to try it in Groupwise when I go 
back to work, which won’t be till the middle of August!

Thanks again Bill.

Russell 
 On Jun 20, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Bill White via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 
 Hi, Russell. This works in Outlook 2007, 2010, and 2013.
 
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 - Original Message - From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw 
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Russell Solowoniuk rsolowon...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:43 AM
 Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook 2007
 
 
 This surprises me. I didn’t know one could paste attachments right into the 
 body of an email message. Is this something new? This is the way I’ve been 
 doing attachments on my Mac for the past 6 years, but never knew it was 
 possible in Windows and Outlook. Does this only work in outlook 2013?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Russell
 On Jun 19, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com 
 wrote:
 
 I do not have Outlook, but typically the body is where you write the main 
 body of your letter. In Windows Live Mail one tabs from the send to edit 
 box to cc, to bc, to subject, to the body of the letter. Do I understand 
 the directions correctly; in Outlook one just pastes an attachment in the 
 main body edit area?
 Thanks,
 Cheers Kevin.
 -Original Message- From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:11 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: O.Addison Gethers
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook 2007
 
 Hello Harry,
 Man I don't know what is the body of the e-mail is? If I'm not 
 mistaken when you say body ,Are you mean in message ?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harry 
 Spencer via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:14 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Harry Spencer
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook
 2007
 
 Just paste in the body of the email. Harry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of 
 O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:13 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: O.Addison Gethers
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook
 2007
 
 Hi Brissett,
 I want to send a picture in attachment ,if I find the picture that I 
 want in attachment so I press ctrl + c  to copy then open a new 
 message in e-mail to the person I want to send the picture where do 
 I paste the picture by press ctrl +v where in message?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of 
 Bissett, Tom via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:01 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bissett, Tom
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook
 2007
 
 Or you can find the document you want to attach, copy it to the 
 clipboard with control+C and paste it into your email.  It will put 
 it in as an attachment.
 Tom Bisset
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal 
 Nowicki via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:42 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Michal Nowicki
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook
 2007
 
 Alt N, A, F
 
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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of 
 O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:32 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: O.Addison Gethers
 Subject: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook 2007
 
 Hello All,
 
 I have jaws 16 ,window7 desktop computer and Microsoft outlook 2007 
 !! I want to send someone attachment in e-mail ,How can I put 
 attachment in e-mail ? What is the keystroke command for created attachment 
 ?
 
 Addison
 
 
 
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RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook 2007

2015-06-20 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Does this work in Thunderbird?  Windows Live Mail?  Other clients?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell 
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook 2007

This surprises me. I didn’t know one could paste attachments right into the 
body of an email message. Is this something new? This is the way I’ve been 
doing attachments on my Mac for the past 6 years, but never knew it was 
possible in Windows and Outlook. Does this only work in outlook 2013?

Thanks,

Russell
 On Jun 19, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com 
 wrote:
 
 I do not have Outlook, but typically the body is where you write the main 
 body of your letter. In Windows Live Mail one tabs from the send to edit box 
 to cc, to bc, to subject, to the body of the letter. Do I understand the 
 directions correctly; in Outlook one just pastes an attachment in the main 
 body edit area?
 Thanks,
 Cheers Kevin.
 -Original Message- From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:11 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: O.Addison Gethers
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook 2007
 
 Hello Harry,
 Man I don't know what is the body of the e-mail is? If I'm not 
 mistaken when you say body ,Are you mean in message ?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harry 
 Spencer via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:14 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Harry Spencer
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook
 2007
 
 Just paste in the body of the email. Harry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of 
 O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:13 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: O.Addison Gethers
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook
 2007
 
 Hi Brissett,
 I want to send a picture in attachment ,if I find the picture that I 
 want in attachment so I press ctrl + c  to copy then open a new 
 message in e-mail to the person I want to send the picture where do I 
 paste the picture by press ctrl +v where in message?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bissett, 
 Tom via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:01 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Bissett, Tom
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook
 2007
 
 Or you can find the document you want to attach, copy it to the 
 clipboard with control+C and paste it into your email.  It will put it 
 in as an attachment.
 Tom Bisset
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal 
 Nowicki via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:42 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Michal Nowicki
 Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 
 Outlook
 2007
 
 Alt N, A, F
 
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 O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:32 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: O.Addison Gethers
 Subject: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook 
 2007
 
 Hello All,
 
 I have jaws 16 ,window7 desktop computer and Microsoft outlook 2007 !! 
 I want to send someone attachment in e-mail ,How can I put attachment 
 in e-mail ? What is the keystroke command for created attachment ?
 
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RE: You need to update Skype. NOT!

2015-06-20 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I close Skype from the Task Bar because Alt F4 doesn't work for me either.
Other then that, however, the program works well for me; I use JAWS 16 and
Windows 8.1.  One setting I recommend changing, though, is unchecking the
Skype Home option in the view menu.  If checked, this setting makes screen
reader navigation more difficult because parts of the Skype website appear
in the program.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marsha via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Marsha
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

HI
  If you want to close Skype, the easiest way is to go to the system tray. 
hit quit, then yes you are sure.

Marsha 


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RE: You need to update Skype. NOT!

2015-06-20 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Skype does have both a desktop and a metro app, but not all programs have 
versions optimized specifically for Windows 8 and above.  If this were the 
case, we would be able to run JAWS on Windows RT.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell 
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I had the same issue with not being able to close Skype after installing. I’m 
running Windows 8.1 as well, and wonder if we inadvertently installed the 
Windows App version of Skype instead of the full desktop version? I’m not to 
clear as to whether or not there are Windows Apps for all programs or not. Just 
a thought. I hardly use Skype, so not sure if it’s working or not… just 
installed the update because a window came up prompting me to update Skype, so 
I did.

HTH

Russell
 On Jun 20, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Robin Frost via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 My goodness all of this excitement.  I'm running the latest build of the 
 program with JFW 16 and though some things have changed all is going just 
 fine. I was able to explore various options, send a chat message to someone 
 and even see where to initiate a call should I have wished to do so and all 
 of that even without being sure I'm running the latest Skype scripts from 
 Doug.
 Deep cleansing breaths and reasonable thought processes are a good thing.
 Happy Saturday one and all.
 Robin
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Ed Marquette via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:40 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Ed Marquette
 Subject: You need to update Skype. NOT!
 
 I have never been a big fan of Skype, but the new features in Skype, 
 as advertised in an email message I received having a subject line 
 similar to the above, made it tempting.
 
 So, I read further.  Apparently, the old Skype will no longer be 
 supported.
 
 Being one always willing to jump for the bleeding edge, I gave it a 
 try.  In fairness, I didn't try to work with it for very long, but 
 this has to rank right up there with the most inaccessible products 
 I've seen on the market in the last decade.  The thing brings up a 
 list of options that one can read, but none of them works.  Even 
 worse, Skype hangs around and cannot be removed even with Alt-F4.  I 
 almost entitled this message, Is Skype really a virus?  Fortunately, 
 after going to the Control Panel, it was fairly easy to get rid of the 
 thing.  Now, my computer is working normally, but I really thought I 
 had inadvertently introduced a virus to my computer (Windows 8.1).  
 I'm using JAWS 16.
 
 So, except for those with some sight (probably quite a bit) and those 
 with psychological needs to inflict punishment upon themselves, I 
 would recommend to people that they bypass the tempting advertisements 
 in the Skype email message that is likely to appear in your Inbox soon 
 - if it has not appeared already.
 
 
 
 Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad
 
 I. Edward Marquette
 
 Universal Phone: 408.692.5640
 
 
 
 Mobile: 816.812.0088
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Outlooks 210

2015-06-19 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
You need to turn off the reading pane.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2015, at 8:19 PM, John Chan via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 
 How do I keep jaws from opening up an email when I am just scrolling up and 
 down? What do I need to turn off and how?
 
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RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook 2007

2015-06-18 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Alt N, A, F

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of O.Addison
Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook 2007

Hello All,

I have jaws 16 ,window7 desktop computer and Microsoft outlook 2007 !! I
want to send someone attachment in e-mail ,How can I put attachment in
e-mail ? What is the keystroke command for created attachment ?

Addison 

 

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RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

2015-06-18 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Glad I was able to help.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

No, I didn't mean complicated--far from it. I meant exactly what I said,
obscure.  I never heard of it, no one talks about it, but it's just what I
was looking for!  Thanks.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:55 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Ted,

The instructions I sent you may indeed seem complicated, but the process is
quite straightforward once you get the hang of how it works.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:01 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Man, that's obscure.  Thanks a lot. I'll try it.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Ted,

You do not need to change any Word settings.  Instead, just follow the below
instructions very carefully, as the process of returning to where you left
off is a bit tricky.  There are two ways to access the feature to which I'm
referring, and I strongly recommend the second method.
Method 1.  When you open a Word document you previously accessed, JAWS will
announce the resume reading pane with focus on the resume reading
button.  Unfortunately, the resume reading pane does not linger, so if you
don't press the spacebar quickly, this method won't work.
Method 2.  When you reopen a Word document, wait for the resume reading
pane to appear and disappear.  Then press F6 until you land on the resume
reading pane, and activate the resume reading button by pressing
spacebar.  This should place you where you were when you last closed the
document.

Unfortunately, the resume reading feature has three key limitations:
1.  It works only in Word 2013, not in earlier versions.
2.  It works only in files that have been created in Word 2013.  Therefore,
if you want to use it in a file that was created in Word 2010 or earlier,
you are out of luck, unless, perhaps, you select the entire document, copy
and paste it into a blank Word 2013 file, and save it under a different
name.
3.  If you open a document and press any navigation keystroke (e.g.  attempt
to move by character, word, or line), the feature will no longer work
because the second the cursor moves, Word forgets your previous location.

I hope this helps.

Michal

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 1:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

For Heaven's sake, how?  What parameter do I set?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Word 2013 can.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

As I recall, the training material said something about it early on, and I
thought, That's for me.  I have never understood why Word can't do what
WordPerfect and DisplayWrite could do decades ago, and what Excel can also
do--bring you in where you left off without fuss and bother!

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

I had no idea placemarkers would work in Word.  This is awesome!
At 06:57 AM 6/16/2015, you wrote:
I use them in Word documents, rather than the equivalent Insert 
function in Word.  Defining temporary, they stay after you close the 
document, but are  superseded by the next one, which makes them perfect 
for my purpose.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne 
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
 hello;
 not sure of which

Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

2015-06-17 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Does it work in all versions of Word?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 17, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Jean Menzies via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yup, works well in Word. Sorry I hadn't seen this before posting the same 
 info.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackwell via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:30 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Martin Blackwell
 Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS
 
 I think this works in all versions of Word, but I'm not sure. Just press
 SHIFT F5 when you first open the document, and Word will take you to the
 last edit.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
 (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:00 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS
 
 As I recall, the training material said something about it early on, and I
 thought, That's for me.  I have never understood why Word can't do what
 WordPerfect and DisplayWrite could do decades ago, and what Excel can also
 do--bring you in where you left off without fuss and bother!
 
 Ted
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via
 Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:10 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Ann Byrne
 Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS
 
 I had no idea placemarkers would work in Word.  This is awesome!
 At 06:57 AM 6/16/2015, you wrote:
 I use them in Word documents, rather than the equivalent Insert
 function in Word.  Defining temporary, they stay after you close the
 document, but are  superseded by the next one, which makes them perfect
 for my purpose.
 
 Ted
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
 via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:42 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Ann Byrne
 Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS
 
 According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
 At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
 hello;
 not sure of which version of jaws your using, but, the keystroke for
 creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k, I'm using jaws 16, the
 keystroke is ctrl+shift+k, now tab to add, also, alt+windows+k will
 announce the various place markers.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
 Marquette via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Ed Marquette
 Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS
 
 With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list lately,
 I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging me.
 
 I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications that
 I use all the time, including a document management Web App that I
 access (keep loaded all the time) daily.
 
 I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
 always work.  Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
 but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker to
 PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
 Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit shift
 K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy PlaceMarker.
 Sometimes it does not.
 
 Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
 assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly reliable
 because of the peculiarities of the Net.
 
 No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
 doing something wrong.
 
 Here is what I do:
 
 1.  Press  Control plus windows plus K
 
 2.  Choose Add PlaceMarker
 
 3.  accept the default name, link to text, use the default text (if I
 know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if I know
 the element will always be on screen within the application.
 
 Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
 the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true.  Is it possible
 that the opposite is true?
 
 I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should be
 linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps my
 thinking is backwards.
 
 If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll continue
 with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.
 
 
 
 Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad
 
 I. Edward Marquette
 
 Universal Phone: 408.692.5640
 
 
 
 Mobile: 816.812.0088
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

2015-06-14 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Great point!

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

This is a useful point about anchoring to text for certain webpages, but
anchoring text is still advisable for other websites and situations.
Remember, Ed refers to online documents.  For myself, I find anchoring to
text so useful in website navigation that I will set a placemarker at
permanent text nearby instead of exactly on the spot I want if I know the
text there will change.  

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:40 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards.  I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content.  For example,
some news sites don't have skip to content links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page.  Therefore, it can be useful
to create a main content placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation.  In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g.  article title).  I
hope this helps.

Michal

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list lately, I
thought I would raise a question that has been bugging me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications that I use
all the time, including a document management Web App that I access (keep
loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers always
work.  Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain, but the k key,
which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker to PlaceMarker often
skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit shift K to go
backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy PlaceMarker.  Sometimes it
does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been assuming
that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly reliable because of the
peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am doing
something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1.  Press  Control plus windows plus K

2.  Choose Add PlaceMarker

3.  accept the default name, link to text, use the default text (if I know
it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if I know the element
will always be on screen within the application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of the
PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true.  Is it possible that the
opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should be linked
to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps my thinking is
backwards.  

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll continue with my
thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.

 

Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640

 

Mobile: 816.812.0088

 

 

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RE: virus protection, sound and video editing

2015-06-13 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
It is reliable; that is why I use it.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: virus protection, sound and video editing

Isn't Avira reliable? An IBM engineer recommended it to my son, and we all
use it.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Michal Nowicki mnowic...@icloud.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: virus protection, sound and video editing


I use Avira, even though it is no longer accessible, because it does a good
 job protecting my computer, and because it does not take up a lot of
 resources.  I too am running JAWS on Windows 8.1.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Deidre 
 Muccio
 via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:41 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Deidre Muccio
 Subject: virus protection, sound and video editing

 Hello,
 I will have a new computer set up soon. I will be running Windows 8.1, 
 with
 16 ggs RAM and a lot of storage space. I'll update to J16 Home.
 Can anyone tell me what free virus protection should I consider using that
 is accessible and would do a good job of protecting my new computer? I use
 AVG on my current XP computer and though I might have some strange stuff
 happen on occasion, I've never lost files or rarely have gotten mailings
 from suspicious senders.

 Also, I have used sound Recorder in years past to edit sound files. Is
 anyone using it with J16 and Windows 8.1 and finding it easy to use?

 Is anyone using a video editor that is accessible with J16? All I
 would need to do is cut files up not embellish them in any way. I 
 obviously
 would need the audio to be running while I trimmed so I could know where 
 to
 trim based on that. I don't need a professional program to play with sound
 quality or any of that though probably all the programs include that.

 Thanks.

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RE: virus protection, sound and video editing

2015-06-13 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I use Avira, even though it is no longer accessible, because it does a good
job protecting my computer, and because it does not take up a lot of
resources.  I too am running JAWS on Windows 8.1.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Deidre Muccio
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:41 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Deidre Muccio
Subject: virus protection, sound and video editing

Hello,
I will have a new computer set up soon. I will be running Windows 8.1, with
16 ggs RAM and a lot of storage space. I'll update to J16 Home. 
Can anyone tell me what free virus protection should I consider using that
is accessible and would do a good job of protecting my new computer? I use
AVG on my current XP computer and though I might have some strange stuff
happen on occasion, I've never lost files or rarely have gotten mailings
from suspicious senders.

Also, I have used sound Recorder in years past to edit sound files. Is
anyone using it with J16 and Windows 8.1 and finding it easy to use? 

Is anyone using a video editor that is accessible with J16? All I
would need to do is cut files up not embellish them in any way. I obviously
would need the audio to be running while I trimmed so I could know where to
trim based on that. I don't need a professional program to play with sound
quality or any of that though probably all the programs include that.

Thanks.   

Deidre


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RE: help with Google Docs

2015-06-12 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Cynthia,

I have very limited personal experience with Google Docs, but based on what
I've heard and read, NVDA is the best Windows screen reader for accessing
Google apps.  Also, Firefox is the recommended browser.  I hope this helps.

Michal

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Cynthia Bruce
Subject: help with Google Docs

Hi All,

 

I am wondering if anyone can give me any tips about viewing and editing a
document on google docs? When I go into a document that someone has sent me,
I can't seem to find any text to read or edit.

 

Thanks,

 

Cynthia

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RE: laptop

2015-06-11 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
You can use Windows 8 with JAWS 14, but you can't use Windows 8.1.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kristoffer 
Gustafsson via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:09 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kristoffer Gustafsson
Subject: laptop

Hi.
Finally I bought the laptop I wanted for so long.
hp probook 650, 16 gb ram, ssd disk and i7 2.2 processor.
iI've installed jaws now.
What should I Think Before I begun to use the computer.
Should I take some backup of the Clean os?
Should I activate jaws Before the backup.
Also, It came with win 7 pre installed, but no win 7 install dvd. just for win 
8.
So if it crashes what should I do?
Install an illegal win 7 copy?
I've only got jaws 14, so I can't use 8.
/Kristoffer

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RE: Google

2015-06-11 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
That is the address bar.  All you need to do at that point is type in the
URL and press enter, and the page should load.

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:24 AM
To: jaws users
Cc: stinton...@btinternet.com
Subject: Google

Hi all 

when I go into internet explorer it always opens a Google search  page, now
this normally isn't a problem but like today I have a  web address so there
is no need to search for it but I cant get to internet explorers address bar
to type it in. 
if I do alt d it just says address and search using Google. so how do I get
to my address bar to type the web address in.
I am quite happy to get rid of Google as well as lets face it if i want to
use Google i go to the Google web sight.
oh I have windows 7 and jaws 12.

thanks in advance Joe  
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RE: When on the net.

2015-06-10 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Carolyn,

There is no skip to content JAWS command that works universally across web
pages.  Fortunately, more and more web developers mark the start of the main
content with either heading level 1 or ARIA regions.  If that doesn't work
on pages you need to access, try pressing the letter n, which skips past
blocks of links.  This method, however, won't always work either.  In short,
quick navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly to the
content of something on the web? I have experimented with everything that I
can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone can tell me, thanks you
very much in advance. 

GIFT (God is forever true), 

Carolyn 
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RE: how do I get to the address field when using the internet?

2015-06-10 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
So does Alt d.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel via 
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: RE: how do I get to the address field when using the internet?

F4 takes you there directly.

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Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:12 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Ingram
Subject: how do I get to the address field when using the internet?

Hi, list members, I’m sometimes unsure which key strokes that I should use when 
wanting to go to the address field while using any browser.  If I’m not 
mistaken I can use f6 twice then I would hear address and search field.  I hope 
that this is correct.  P.S.  I also notice that when I use web mail and I want 
to make sure that the addresses in my known spam folder go to the blocked 
senders list how can I make sure that this is done?  I have not been able to 
select these messages unless I select them one at a time if I’m correct.  Thank 
you for any information that you might have.

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RE: Anyone using Windows10?

2015-06-10 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
What does the Mirror Display do?  Is it a major component of JAWS?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kenny via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 8:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kenny
Subject: Re: Anyone using Windows10?

Hi carliss, I used the windows 10 preview with jaws 16, and it worked really
well. The only problem is the merror display not being properly installed.
Kenny Peyatt
On 6/9/2015 5:11 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:
 Hello listers,

 `I heard that there are people using window10even though its not being
 officially released until July 29. So is anyone out there using it, and if
 so, how well is it working with jaws. Right now I'm using Jaws14.

 By the way, if you are using windows10 do you like it?

 Thanks to all.

   

   

 Carliss

   

   

 P.S. There's a button in my sys tray to reserve a spot for a automatic
 windows download when Microsoft starts that.

   



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Spirit Airlines Website

2015-05-28 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Dear List,

 

Has anyone had any luck using the Spirit Airlines website with JAWS?  I find
much of it inaccessible, and was wondering if others agree.

 

Best,

 

Michal

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RE: Chat programs with JAWS

2015-05-27 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Skype satisfies both requirements.  The desktop and iOS apps are fully
accessible with JAWS and VoiceOver, respectively.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: Chat programs with JAWS

Hi folks!  I'm wondering what chat program is the best to use with JAWS.  I
would like to find one that works well with JAWS on the computer, and
equally as well on the mobile side, either with an iPhone or Android.  I
know we don't necessarily discuss mobile phones on this list, so I don't
want this to go off topic.  Any thoughts on chat clients that work well with
JAWS would be most helpful.  Thanks!

 

 

 

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RE: Internet Explorer Issue

2015-05-26 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Great plan.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:28 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer Issue

Michal:

This is not very encouraging, but I realize that it's what I ultimately may
have to do as a last resort.

I'll probably start with uninstalling  and reinstalling IE first, and hope
for the best.

Dr.  Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer Issue

Dear Dr.  Behler,

Uninstalling and reinstalling Internet Explorer may not be a bad idea, but
if you really have caught a virus, I'm afraid that you may need to uninstall
and reinstall Windows.  After all, the malicious file(s) could be stored
anywhere on your computer, and other programs may be impacted.  Therefore,
if you can't get rid of the virus, consider reinstalling the entire
operating system.  If you go that route, make sure to back up your important
files if you have not done so already.

Best,

Michal

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:52 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Internet Explorer Issue

Hello, everyone.

 

As you may remember, I have been having major issues recently with my home
Windows 7 desktop PC becoming sluggish, and slowing down to the point that
it has basically become unusable with Jaws.

 

I originally thought the problem was with Outlook 2010, and, although I
think that still might be a significant part of the issue, another problem
has re-surfaced that actually may be more noteworthy.

 

The problem initially occurred several weeks ago, and I thought it had been
taken care of by our local computer repair shop in my town, but, alas, I was
wrong.

 

My problem is that I can be in the middle of an application, and little
audio clips appear, and start playing from out of nowhere.

 

The strange thing is that this happens when I'm  not even in Internet
Explorer.

 

If I go into the Windows task manager, and look at programs running, a
version of IE is running even though I haven't opened it, and there are web
sites that periodically come up that  I have never  visited.  One example
that I can remember is called miniclip, which I believe is a games web site.

 

My gut instinct suggests that this is a virus of some sort, but both I, and
the techs at our local computer shop, haven't been able to find  it.

 

Today, an individual on the blind hams e-mail list of which I am a member
described this exact same problem, but has not come up with a definite
solution yet.

 

I'm thinking of totally uninstalling, and then re-installing Internet
Explorer to see if this fixes things, but am a bit hesitant to take this
step since all my internet cookies and other settings would be wiped out in
the process.

 

For the record, the computer in question  is a 64-bit Windows 7 PC with
Internet Explorer 11 and Jaws 14.

 

Any thoughts or experiences from others on list with regard to this issue
would be appreciated.

 

Thanks for your patience as I try to sort things out here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

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RE: What are the steps to download a zipped mp3 file from a web page

2015-05-26 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
David,

You actually sent your response to the list.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Moore
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:30 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Moore
Subject: What are the steps to download a zipped mp3 file from a web page

Hi Keith.
This is David, and I will help you.
First of all, when you are on the link of the zipped file, press the num pad
*, the command for a right click, also, you can press caps lock + the number
9 on the numbers row if you have a laptop, or you can just right click the
mouse itself.  After you do this right click, arrow down to save target to
and enter on that.  Next, click on save as.  When you enter on save as, and
press enter, select the folder you want to save the zipped file to.  Next,
enter on the save button in the dialog and it will be saved on your
computer.  Important:
When you find the file on your computer, because it is zipped, when you
press enter on this file, it will show the file in mp3.  I think you have to
alt tab to see the actual mp3 file.  Now, press enter on that mp3 file, and
the song will start playing.  Because the file is zipped, you are just doing
this extra step.  So, again, press enter on the file on your computer, alt
tab to the mp3 file that is unzipped, press enter a second time on that, and
your song or whatever it is will start playing in Windows media player or
whatever default player you have on your computer.
I hope this helps, and if you run into anything, please do not hesitate to
e-mail me off list at the e-mail at the bottom of this message.  Also, You
can ask me any question you have about computer since we are e-mailing back
and forth off of the list.  Take care.

E-mail:
jesusloves1...@gmail.com

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RE: Internet Explorer Issue

2015-05-26 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Dear Dr.  Behler,

Uninstalling and reinstalling Internet Explorer may not be a bad idea, but
if you really have caught a virus, I'm afraid that you may need to uninstall
and reinstall Windows.  After all, the malicious file(s) could be stored
anywhere on your computer, and other programs may be impacted.  Therefore,
if you can't get rid of the virus, consider reinstalling the entire
operating system.  If you go that route, make sure to back up your important
files if you have not done so already.

Best,

Michal

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:52 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Internet Explorer Issue

Hello, everyone.

 

As you may remember, I have been having major issues recently with my home
Windows 7 desktop PC becoming sluggish, and slowing down to the point that
it has basically become unusable with Jaws.

 

I originally thought the problem was with Outlook 2010, and, although I
think that still might be a significant part of the issue, another problem
has re-surfaced that actually may be more noteworthy.

 

The problem initially occurred several weeks ago, and I thought it had been
taken care of by our local computer repair shop in my town, but, alas, I was
wrong.

 

My problem is that I can be in the middle of an application, and little
audio clips appear, and start playing from out of nowhere.

 

The strange thing is that this happens when I'm  not even in Internet
Explorer.

 

If I go into the Windows task manager, and look at programs running, a
version of IE is running even though I haven't opened it, and there are web
sites that periodically come up that  I have never  visited.  One example
that I can remember is called miniclip, which I believe is a games web site.

 

My gut instinct suggests that this is a virus of some sort, but both I, and
the techs at our local computer shop, haven't been able to find  it.

 

Today, an individual on the blind hams e-mail list of which I am a member
described this exact same problem, but has not come up with a definite
solution yet.

 

I'm thinking of totally uninstalling, and then re-installing Internet
Explorer to see if this fixes things, but am a bit hesitant to take this
step since all my internet cookies and other settings would be wiped out in
the process.

 

For the record, the computer in question  is a 64-bit Windows 7 PC with
Internet Explorer 11 and Jaws 14.

 

Any thoughts or experiences from others on list with regard to this issue
would be appreciated.

 

Thanks for your patience as I try to sort things out here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

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RE: Which FTP Clients and FTP Server programs, are accessible usingscreen-readers, such as JAWS?

2015-05-26 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
I agree, especially when it comes to software for Windows; this seems to be
less problematic on iOS.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:49 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Which FTP Clients and FTP Server programs, are accessible
usingscreen-readers, such as JAWS?

It appears that with the advances of technology, accessibility seems to be
more problematic with increasing challenges to maintain effectiveness.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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From: Jacob via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jacob d...@drnet.dk
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: Which FTP Clients and FTP Server programs, are accessible
usingscreen-readers, such as JAWS?


As client I'm using Filezilla. It's long I tried the server from Mozilla so
I don'¨t know how accessible and useful it is but the client is very good.
My server software is an old version of Ser-U FTP Server (not free). Nwer
version of Serv-U is getting worse when it comes to accesibility.

OZ0TE Jacob

On 2015 05 26at. 11:58 Dave Durber via Jfw wrote:
 Hello everyone:

 Now that the latest version of FTP Voyager is difficult or impossible 
 to use with a Screen-Reader, what FTP client programs (free, public 
 domain or paid), are fellow list members using instead.

 In addition, if there are list members who are hosting an FTP site, 
 which FTP server program are you using?

 Thank you in anticipation.

 Sincerely:

 Dave Durber

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RE: Jaws 15 Problem in window7

2015-05-25 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Don't forget that Ctrl Alt J will work only if you first set it up on your
machine; it is not enabled by default when you install JAWS.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of O.Addison
Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:23 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: Jaws 15 Problem in window7

Hello Carolyn,
Thank you for the instruction so the box is check so I unload jaws again
then I waited for 1 minute then I follow all the keystroke command jaws
still not restart to come back on either so I had to shut down the computer
then turn it back on jaws came back on !! Something is wrong here and I
think I need to call FS technical support tomorrow to report this problem.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Jaws 15 Problem in window7 

For one thing, with many computers, the JAWS command to come on is Control
Alt J. If you'll  -
1 hit Insert J;
2. the first thing will be Options;
3. Arrow down to the next, Basics;
4. Enter on Basics;
5. Tab, and I think the second one will give you the choice to check start
with JAWS.
66. check that.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: O.Addison Gethers o.addisongeth...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 7:06 PM
Subject: Jaws 15 Problem in window7


 Hello All,

 I have window7 with desktop 32 bits !! I'm having problem when I 
 unloaded Jaws by press insert + f4 then press spacebar then I waited 
 for 2 or 3 minute then when I try to get jaws to come back on ,I press 
 run key then type in jaws15 press enter jaws never came back on so I 
 waited about 10 minute to see if jaws will come on so it didn't so I 
 try another keystroke command alt +shift + j that didn't work either  
 so I try another keystroke press ctrl +shift + j it's still not work 
 either !! What is the right keystroke command ? Also I had to shut 
 down the computer so when jaws came on I went to jaws window I can't 
 remember what I'm looking for to see if the box is off for jaws not to 
 come on when unloaded jaws ,Does anyone know what's the name for to 
 check the box in setting and show me how to get there?

 Addison



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RE: Setting up Outlook

2015-05-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
JAWS contains a help topic for Outlook, which can be accessed by holding the 
JAWS key and pressing F1 twice quickly from within Outlook.  JAWS help for 
Outlook contains a section on getting started with the program.  One change I 
would recommend is turning off the reading pane for all mail folders, or at 
least for your inbox.  While some users find this feature useful (because it 
allows them to preview messages without opening them), I don't like it because 
it marks my messages as read before I have a chance to read them, and the 
only way I've been able to resolve this issue is by setting the reading pane to 
off.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies via 
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 11:53 AM
To: JawsList 1
Cc: Jean Menzies
Subject: Setting up Outlook

I’m starting a new job tomorrow, and will be using Outlook. Likely 2013. As I 
don’t use Outlook at home, I’m asking for any advice on what to turn on or off 
in Outlook to make Jaws work best.Setting views, etc. 

Thanks. 

Jean

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RE: JAWS stays silent when typing passwords in Internet Explorer

2015-05-24 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Perhaps there's a JAWS setting that controls speech output in password fields 
which you changed inadvertently?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sameer via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 2:36 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Sameer
Subject: Re: JAWS stays silent when typing passwords in Internet Explorer


I also used to hear the stars until a week ago. But something seems to have 
been changed during the week. Even a system restore has not sorted out the 
problem.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India
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From: Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 7:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: Re: JAWS stays silent when typing passwords in Internet Explorer

Hello Sameer,
Using Jaws 16, and Windows 7, 64 bit,  I hear the stars.
Cheers Kevin.

-Original Message- 
From: Sameer via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:44 PM
To: JAWS Windows List
Cc: Sameer
Subject: JAWS stays silent when typing passwords in Internet Explorer


Dear List friends,

I have been facing a strange problem during the past couple of days  don’t
know if it is JAWS-related.

Previously, JAWS used to say “star, star” when I typed passwords in Internet
Explorer. But now JAWS stays silent. I know that the password is getting
typed because the star symbols appear on the screen  pressing Enter after
typing the password performs as expected.

I am using JAWS 16 on a computer running Windows 7 OS.

Kindly inform me how I can get JAWS to speak again when typing passwords.

Thanking you all in advance for any  all assistance.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India
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RE: font and format configuration

2015-05-21 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Not a bad thought, but why bother when Ctrl Alt V is an option.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Onwardbob via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:18 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Onwardbob
Subject: RE: font and format configuration

You could try first pasting your info into Notepad which would remove all
formatting. Then copy that and paste it into your Word doc. Just a thought!

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:50 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Drew Hunthausen
Subject: RE: font and format configuration

I just tried this and it does do what you are describing. What I remember
doing and what I want to do is to paste text from a web site or another
document into the one I am working on and have it format the text the same
as the rest of my document. I have an article I am writing where I am
pulling quotes from other places. Many of these quotes are formatted
differently and are hyper links in their origin. I need to be able to copy
and paste them into my document and have them be formatted like the rest of
the text. I remember doing this when I first started using word 2010 and it
was a life changer. Thanks so much

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: RE: font and format configuration

Here is one where it would potentially be helpful if we knew more about your
objective.
Instead of using control plus v, if you use control plus alt plus v, you get
an option every time as to the format you want.  This works in both Word
2010 and Outlook 2010.
If you paste as text or Unicode text, everything takes on the font in effect
at the point where the paste takes place.  There is also an option to paste
as formatted text -- as well as several other options pasting format .
In fact, I almost never use control plus v anymore.
 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: RE: font and format configuration

As far as pasting goes, under the home ribbon there is a pasting option
where after pressing spacebar, it will ask if you want to paste text only,
paste special, or set default paste.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 10:25 PM
To: Jaws list
Cc: Drew Hunthausen
Subject: font and format configuration

Dear list,

I'm wondering if someone can help me with how to change the copy and past/
cut and paste options in word 2010. I know that there is a way to have word
ask you what format you want to paste the text as, but I don't have that set
up and really need to get that option. Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

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RE: deleteing inbox

2015-05-21 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
You can, but do you really want to?  What if you get rid of something
important?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
Hardingham via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:47 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Hardingham
Subject: deleteing inbox

Hi all,

I have been in and out of the veterans admain hospital for awhile and have a
ton of e mails.

Can I select all from my inbox and get rid of them all? I have wlm, jaws
14 so thanks in advance.

David
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Re: deleting inbox

2015-05-21 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
But not good for replying off list.

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 21, 2015, at 4:58 AM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com 
 wrote:
 
 One way is to set up a reply, then arrow down through the headers. Often, 
 though not always, the sender's email address is displayed in the From 
 line. See below for a default example. This list also used to display 
 people's email addresses, but not lately. Probably a good thing if you care 
 about privacy.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Hassan via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 10:08 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: dreamy.eyes@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: deleting inbox
 
 Hi all
 I sometimes have issues with accessing the address of the sender in outlook 
 2010, how do I go about accessing it and copying it?
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: cloud storage

2015-05-20 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Dropbox

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 20, 2015, at 8:51 PM, kevin brown via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com 
 wrote:
 
 I am looking for cloud storage that works well with jaws. I would
 appreciate any tips from the list members.
 
 -- 
 The man who stands confounded at the fork in the road
 shall never reach the goal at the end of the journey!
 
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