[josm-dev] license of data produced by JOSM
Hi there, JOSM is one of the best mapping tools with topological support. In comparism to widely spread CAD software, like Microstation, it's reduced to the needs of a mapper. Missing features, like mapping bank/slops can easily be added by external python scripts. My clients often ask whether JOSM can be used for non-OSM data or mapped data strictly has to be release under ODbL (or similar). If there are such terms and conditions, would it be possible to use OSM for commercial mapping when donating to the OSM foundation or JOSM developers? I know many people, who would pay a fee for using JOSM, since it's exactly what they need to simplify daily work and raise productivity. Best regards, Tobias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] license of data produced by JOSM
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, Tobias Wendorff wrote: JOSM is one of the best mapping tools with topological support. In comparism to widely spread CAD software, like Microstation, it's reduced to the needs of a mapper. Missing features, like mapping bank/slops can easily be added by external python scripts. My clients often ask whether JOSM can be used for non-OSM data or mapped data strictly has to be release under ODbL (or similar). If there are such terms and conditions, would it be possible to use OSM for commercial mapping when donating to the OSM foundation or JOSM developers? I know many people, who would pay a fee for using JOSM, since it's exactly what they need to simplify daily work and raise productivity. JOSM does not give you any restrictions regarding the license of data modified or created with it. But license restrictions can come from other data like loaded imports and background imagery. Donations: Currently there is no possibility to donate to JOSM developers. Donations to OSM or FOSSGIS may help OSM in general, but do not influence JOSM in any way. Donations to FOSSGIS with use for JOSM may help thought if we need some money in future. License: I'm also pretty sure that without very special license conditions and end user agreements its impossible for normal software to restrict the license of data created with any software. You would need to agree to such a restrictive license before you use the software. Simple Click-Wrap EULA's would not be accepted in court (at least here in Germany). Ciao -- http://www.dstoecker.eu/ (PGP key available) ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] license of data produced by JOSM
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:51:55PM +0100, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Hi there, JOSM is one of the best mapping tools with topological support. In comparism to widely spread CAD software, like Microstation, it's reduced to the needs of a mapper. Missing features, like mapping bank/slops can easily be added by external python scripts. My clients often ask whether JOSM can be used for non-OSM data or mapped data strictly has to be release under ODbL (or similar). JOSM is licensed under the GNU GPL, which guarantees the four freedoms listed at https://gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html The first one seems to apply here: The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0). Only if you import some data sources into JOSM and create a derivative work based on that, then the copyright licenses of those data sources could apply. If there are such terms and conditions, would it be possible to use OSM for commercial mapping when donating to the OSM foundation or JOSM developers? I know many people, who would pay a fee for using JOSM, since it's exactly what they need to simplify daily work and raise productivity. Of course, it is always a good idea to support the project, even if you are not legally required to do so. Marko (not an active JOSM developer) ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] license of data produced by JOSM
As other have pointed out, Josm itself has no restrictions, but for example, Bing imagery does. You can't use it for non-OSM projects AFAIK, as an example. And of course there are data license issues with various data sources. - Serge On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Tobias Wendorff tobias.wendo...@tu-dortmund.de wrote: Hi there, JOSM is one of the best mapping tools with topological support. In comparism to widely spread CAD software, like Microstation, it's reduced to the needs of a mapper. Missing features, like mapping bank/slops can easily be added by external python scripts. My clients often ask whether JOSM can be used for non-OSM data or mapped data strictly has to be release under ODbL (or similar). If there are such terms and conditions, would it be possible to use OSM for commercial mapping when donating to the OSM foundation or JOSM developers? I know many people, who would pay a fee for using JOSM, since it's exactly what they need to simplify daily work and raise productivity. Best regards, Tobias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] license of data produced by JOSM
Am Do, 20.11.2014, 13:12 schrieb Dirk Stöcker: JOSM does not give you any restrictions regarding the license of data modified or created with it. Thanks for this information! But license restrictions can come from other data like loaded imports and background imagery. Sure :) Donations: Currently there is no possibility to donate to JOSM developers. Donations to OSM or FOSSGIS may help OSM in general, but do not influence JOSM in any way. Donations to FOSSGIS with use for JOSM may help thought if we need some money in future. Okay, that's a good idea. License: I'm also pretty sure that without very special license conditions and end user agreements its impossible for normal software to restrict the license of data created with any software. You would need to agree to such a restrictive license before you use the software. Simple Click-Wrap EULA's would not be accepted in court (at least here in Germany). Yeah, ESRI has got looong contracts with dos and don'ts ;) Best regards, Tobias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] license of data produced by JOSM
Am Do, 20.11.2014, 13:16 schrieb Marko Mäkelä: JOSM is licensed under the GNU GPL, which guarantees the four freedoms listed at https://gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Thanks for pointing me. Only if you import some data sources into JOSM and create a derivative work based on that, then the copyright licenses of those data sources could apply. Sure :) Of course, it is always a good idea to support the project, even if you are not legally required to do so. I totally agree. Best regards, Tobias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] license of data produced by JOSM
Am Do, 20.11.2014, 14:11 schrieb Serge Wroclawski: As other have pointed out, Josm itself has no restrictions, but for example, Bing imagery does. You can't use it for non-OSM projects AFAIK, as an example. And of course there are data license issues with various data sources. Yeah, I know. The clients I'm working with have access to other aerial data and other map sources. Those can't be used with OSM the other way around :) For those, who ever worked with a CAD or professional GIS system, JOSM is a great alternative for mapping or changing data. Did you ever try to move a polyline (linestring) with an area (polygon) attached to it in ArcGIS? There are some limited functions for topology, but JOSM is faaar beyond this. ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
