[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
Hi Heiko, Yes it can be done in a few clicks. Cheers, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: Hi Harold, By inverted do you mean a check mark means its not case sensitive? Exactly, when the tick-box is selected it is NOT case sensitive, and vice versa. Cheers, Heiko
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
Hi Heiko, Done with the changes and labeled as RC2. Now the installation will default to case sensitivity being disabled. Cheers, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: Hi Harold, By inverted do you mean a check mark means its not case sensitive? Exactly, when the tick-box is selected it is NOT case sensitive, and vice versa. Cheers, Heiko
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
Hi All, Server is down but you may download the setup file on the mirror sites http://cybercircuits-lab.co.cc/blog/?p=13 or at SourceForge http://sourceforge.net/projects/kicadexceladdin/ Cheers, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: Kicad always creates the BOM with one part per line only. A suggestion to add a function was aparently never implemented (I found some nice screenshots in the files area). So, what I need is a tool that creates out of this: R1 10K 0805 R2 10K 0805 R3 47K 0805 something like this: 2R1, R210K0805 1R347K0805 Does anyone have a solution how to create consolidated BOMs by using Openoffice (or MS-Office)? Thanks, Heiko
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
Will make one as soon as I can. Cheers Looks very interesting. Any chance of a version for Open Office Thanks
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
Hi Heiko, Sweet! Haven't tried it Office 2007 I'm glad it works. I just have to update the ReadMe file for additional instructions. By inverted do you mean a check mark means its not case sensitive? Cheers, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: Hi Harold, Nice job, thanks. I can confirm that it also works under Excel 2007, just need to be enabled as an add-in. Could it be that the case-sensitive option works inverted? Cheers, Heiko --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Harold King Tarun haroldking@ wrote: Hi Heiko, I have made some major changes and released a newer version of the program. New features includes: - user-friendly interface - menu-driven functions - supports 3 field separator types (TAB, comma and semicolon) - added case sensitivity option - better error handling - saving settings - small footprint installer http://cybercircuits.co.cc/blog/?p=13 Hope you like all the changes. Cheers, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.lange@ wrote: Perfect! Many thanks again!
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
Hi Heiko, Just to let you know that I have made some changes to the MS Excel file. It should now parse all the rows and columns (basically the entire file). Cheers, Harold P.S. Yes I live in NZ too, I'm in Auckland. Where abouts are you? :-) --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: Hi Harold, Thanks, it's indeed including all my other data to the BOM. And I figured another challenge: The BOM has grown further because I added some more components. Means, I have some same components further down the list. Here's an example: R1 10K 0805 R2 10K 0805 R3 47K 0805 R4 10K 0805 Looks to me that the macro scan the next line but not the entire file, right? The result I see would be for the above example: 2R1, R210K0805 1R347K0805 1R410K0805 Cheers, Heiko P.S. Just saw that you live in NZ, too ;-) --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Harold King Tarun haroldking@ wrote: Hi Heiko, I have released an updated version. This includes processing of all used column even when you have manually inserted a column or not plus all the checked fields from Eeschema. Any features you want to include kindly drop me a line. Regards, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.lange@ wrote: Hi Harold, Thanks a lot, it is in fact a real help in generating BOMs. However, I am squeezing everithing out of Kicad, that's - I guess - the reason why on my system it did only half the job by leaving quite some lines unconsilidated and only uses the first 3 columns. Let me explain: Instead of using simple names for schematic components like 10K I rather use long and complex names like 10K_1%_W125_0805. Reason is that I use the name as part identifier ans link these to a unique stock/order number and some other information within the extra fields. Means, I am using most of the remaining fields. I am also not sure, how compatible the different MS-Office versions are in terms of handling macros. I am currently using Office 2007. I'll run more tests and will try to impove the macro but unfortunately I am flat out with the job for the next few weeks :-( Cheers, Heiko --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Harold King Tarun haroldking@ wrote: Hi Heiko, Here's the MS Excel that you need to consolidate your BOM (including instructions on how to use it). Hope you find it useful. You can get the instructions here http://cybercircuits.co.cc/blog/?p=13 Any bug kindly let me know. Cheers Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.lange@ wrote: Kicad always creates the BOM with one part per line only. A suggestion to add a function was aparently never implemented (I found some nice screenshots in the files area). So, what I need is a tool that creates out of this: R1 10K 0805 R2 10K 0805 R3 47K 0805 something like this: 2R1, R210K0805 1R347K0805 Does anyone have a solution how to create consolidated BOMs by using Openoffice (or MS-Office)? Thanks, Heiko
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
Hi Heiko, Sorry I missed that part. I will upload the new file now. It will only take a minute or two. Cheers, Harold P.S. Todat's weather in Auckland is starting be miserable as well. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: Hi Harold, Just tried V1.5.1 and found that at least with Excel 2007 it doesn't seem to recognise the macro any more: It's not using the *.lst filter when opening and starts the text import filter rather then the macro. On V1.5 all this was working fine. Cheers, Heiko P.S. I'm in Christchurch, today's miserable weather zone.
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
Hi Heiko, I have released an updated version. This includes processing of all used column even when you have manually inserted a column or not plus all the checked fields from Eeschema. Any features you want to include kindly drop me a line. Regards, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: Hi Harold, Thanks a lot, it is in fact a real help in generating BOMs. However, I am squeezing everithing out of Kicad, that's - I guess - the reason why on my system it did only half the job by leaving quite some lines unconsilidated and only uses the first 3 columns. Let me explain: Instead of using simple names for schematic components like 10K I rather use long and complex names like 10K_1%_W125_0805. Reason is that I use the name as part identifier ans link these to a unique stock/order number and some other information within the extra fields. Means, I am using most of the remaining fields. I am also not sure, how compatible the different MS-Office versions are in terms of handling macros. I am currently using Office 2007. I'll run more tests and will try to impove the macro but unfortunately I am flat out with the job for the next few weeks :-( Cheers, Heiko --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Harold King Tarun haroldking@ wrote: Hi Heiko, Here's the MS Excel that you need to consolidate your BOM (including instructions on how to use it). Hope you find it useful. You can get the instructions here http://cybercircuits.co.cc/blog/?p=13 Any bug kindly let me know. Cheers Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.lange@ wrote: Kicad always creates the BOM with one part per line only. A suggestion to add a function was aparently never implemented (I found some nice screenshots in the files area). So, what I need is a tool that creates out of this: R1 10K 0805 R2 10K 0805 R3 47K 0805 something like this: 2R1, R210K0805 1R347K0805 Does anyone have a solution how to create consolidated BOMs by using Openoffice (or MS-Office)? Thanks, Heiko
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
Hi Heiko, The release only considers 3 columns and ignores the remaining columns. The next release will be considering all columns regardless of how many custom fields you may have. If any of the field changes it will count as another component. By the way it was written on MS Office 2003 and should be compatible to any version of MS Office including MS Office 97. As for the OpenOffice compatibility I will try to check tonight. Cheers, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: Hi Harold, Thanks a lot, it is in fact a real help in generating BOMs. However, I am squeezing everithing out of Kicad, that's - I guess - the reason why on my system it did only half the job by leaving quite some lines unconsilidated and only uses the first 3 columns. Let me explain: Instead of using simple names for schematic components like 10K I rather use long and complex names like 10K_1%_W125_0805. Reason is that I use the name as part identifier ans link these to a unique stock/order number and some other information within the extra fields. Means, I am using most of the remaining fields. I am also not sure, how compatible the different MS-Office versions are in terms of handling macros. I am currently using Office 2007. I'll run more tests and will try to impove the macro but unfortunately I am flat out with the job for the next few weeks :-( Cheers, Heiko --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Harold King Tarun haroldking@ wrote: Hi Heiko, Here's the MS Excel that you need to consolidate your BOM (including instructions on how to use it). Hope you find it useful. You can get the instructions here http://cybercircuits.co.cc/blog/?p=13 Any bug kindly let me know. Cheers Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.lange@ wrote: Kicad always creates the BOM with one part per line only. A suggestion to add a function was aparently never implemented (I found some nice screenshots in the files area). So, what I need is a tool that creates out of this: R1 10K 0805 R2 10K 0805 R3 47K 0805 something like this: 2R1, R210K0805 1R347K0805 Does anyone have a solution how to create consolidated BOMs by using Openoffice (or MS-Office)? Thanks, Heiko
[kicad-users] Re: Message Search not working in Yahoo Groups
the group search engine went down again but the search function function is working in any other groups. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Angelo ngl...@... wrote: --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Harold King Tarun haroldking@ wrote: I have tried the search function within the group and its working right now (after few days the search function was down) --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, grahamfclark graham.f.clark@ wrote: I've already been doing that but it might not hit all the pages in the forum. Hello, i can't believe that the engine don't find any global or any bus. So it's still not working :(
[kicad-users] Re: flat hierarchy, global bus
Angelo, There's a guide in creating hierarchical schematic sheet in the Eeschema documentation (eeschema.pdf included under KiCad\doc\help\en ). Just follow those steps. Hope that helps. Cheers Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Angelo ngl...@... wrote: --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Angelo ngl255@ wrote: hello, i have a bus (A0..31) in a root sheet to make available in a second sheet. Actually, for some pins i used global labels. Is it possible to do this with buses, or i have to put 32 global labels, 1 per pin ? greetings Angelo I posted at least 2 posts in these days, with easy newby questions, without any answers. I was wandering if there something wrong with my account data/country, and if my messages are seen, or if there something wrong wit the newby questions. I try the search option to avoid basi�c questions, but it don't work. Let me know, greetings
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
I believe it can be done in Spreadsheet (OpenOffice/MS Office) --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: Kicad always creates the BOM with one part per line only. A suggestion to add a function was aparently never implemented (I found some nice screenshots in the files area). So, what I need is a tool that creates out of this: R1 10K 0805 R2 10K 0805 R3 47K 0805 something like this: 2R1, R210K0805 1R347K0805 Does anyone have a solution how to create consolidated BOMs by using Openoffice (or MS-Office)? Thanks, Heiko
[kicad-users] Re: Consolidated BOM
It requires some programming script. I'll try to write one when I find time. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.la...@... wrote: That's good. But how? I believe it can be done in Spreadsheet (OpenOffice/MS Office) --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, oecherexpat heiko.lange@ wrote: Kicad always creates the BOM with one part per line only. A suggestion to add a function was aparently never implemented (I found some nice screenshots in the files area). So, what I need is a tool that creates out of this: R1 10K 0805 R2 10K 0805 R3 47K 0805 something like this: 2R1, R210K0805 1R347K0805 Does anyone have a solution how to create consolidated BOMs by using Openoffice (or MS-Office)? Thanks, Heiko
[kicad-users] Re: Eagle to kicad converter
I totally agree with you Dan Cheers, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Dan Andersson d...@... wrote: On Monday 05 January 2009 15:49:25 Wei Lu wrote: I am trying to convert the eagle library provided by TI for the MSP430 processors. The ULP is from http://www.cadsoft.de/download.htm However for the PN80 (80LQFP) package of MSP430x5xx, the two side pins are oriented same as the upper and bottom (should be 90 degree rotated), which made it not usable. Is there any solution to this? Regards, Wei Don't read this as being rude now! The KiCad module and Library editor is so simple to use that you don't really need to borrow Eagle Library symbols. Even for complex parts like the TI cpu's. I really really recommend you to learn to use the Kicad lib/mod editor, it's one of the best I've seen for pcb work and I've been doing this since 1978... More importantly, if an old geek like me can learn how to use it, you can too! //Dan, M0DFI -- dan.anders...@... d...@... -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBEkKSGERBADUIV5fUHZ2wDflx0EamVRfSQmP6k05WyB5v8d5+SmUimAkZ5qJ M/s2YEYngxfTwlbWvIOZ7JsIobtPwjVPiXZv2VQE26eKv2nSW1Hrl4Ct1kaepRO1 Lu6cc82E65soWxU+0zCoZyLTWS/6lcPfd38SIWo6bGCLe1epZxp8uNjXIwCgmL6U kfRn9xYyyua01MTkjnjApVUD/jNRy7JCRflvrWLdmqLybSyeyvfBKsYqfAvK53yo qtbrSvHzMfGDHciHmNZik422rVl9AJIObzZ9w6/LcaM4jeqUSbCMmabeLkE7hZPk MpsGSUPrwmFxN4eU7cGC3AjBDdwi+rEQGSauIjkPwx0KMk6sF5ZhtyM2xdoQmlBr FFnfBADH94kOU1kUN6rNbfjgLRanzTKAmWM91Jdhj3zWYYvgEKSK1y8o+AizXqvk bmx0c/GSqR8rfscWivTfxIVYeTw/sTtQ9WGUkL9hb2rU4ULHqNhZED6QMMFPGo2V cpgu1JnoyZPSUN3u3KTdI0mBCIcw0RNv9SJzM71zcfEt9kio3bQjRGFuIEFuZGVy c3NvbiA8ZGFuQGFuZGVyc3Nvbi5jby51az6IYAQTEQIAIAUCSQpIYQIbIwYLCQgH AwIEFQIIAwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEMORX6DwHoOEDbUAni7itZJ5GbozkstqS9MN 3e5uqkcTAJ9CxfvBQFtoY2277urGOxAC1OjkbrkCDQRJCkhhEAgAyFU58VGU5XW5 /kQIXquBDmbGUjX9l/enrmfJgXgr7BCyKgKSAbFQPYSo1ED2p6xWbh3s4k4GfAx2 4M/j7M3KxRp6rHfCN1dRL7b229cveRymUzx1Sa4oBwPkJufi0svLcwPJ096ENh// 0C7IxfY3GR3k0a2ncWn2J8fh78lraVugujpbl+5thei0m0LR6ZqLP/fU+0PGzeHD J2xHO4v47o+gMpDglkWRlL2t+SZ/YXCO5IGSRyxsecR3pAGcrDcyLtkqv8P3+57z Z/kIlRja6I8SW+uBbj/mCIfIpJcv6n9cWpJnvdDG5XISaocznNyMUhSiGgfML+Y2 x853A74ZbwAECwf8DdzpgVU1vLcMZG3BrnjnG8VXTHDucs94JxhtmGn5PKmA/IZS 0T/sdLBJMZ6oC2s/DjFJ+1Gphacp19eq01hdkyB+1GPTB5jYqFNz8Lmfekpv3D53 3haUfYns3Z2q4HAHPftrpUQ1p5+pmPfts0mppwGoCO/XYCEb5prpAbZRbeE/V0td T3cd3nLRka5L4PieRLS+RoYRLyKPO1EB3joup+Rqj5CG82I+t4wcP5UmsBgJc4A9 zCJ1RhLlyU1blaQHb12M0EuEsJutPkZxReX5YCuFFAoQf4LLDp+LDIJ62Ec9g9An VlJjnF8f0Fiq34zbixNEFJf0csJ0h1sCQfdh9ohJBBgRAgAJBQJJCkhhAhsMAAoJ EMORX6DwHoOEVlIAn1gL250p8OgmWUJ3Oq24oAJjCgkNAJkBfHsz5MVAfW2rYs7Y FE1sfMyP4g== =cRBJ -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
[kicad-users] Re: Comparison
I agree with you Robert. Manual routing is a skill that can be learn simply by doing it and it all started when no computer or application can do that for you many years ago. A paper, an eraser and a pencil is a good start.
[kicad-users] Re: Comparison
I just want to make a comment that not all BS-level undergrad classes are not teaching how to use different kind of EDA packages for PCB design. Here it seems like the use of different EDA packages are standard courses under BSECE or BSEE which is part of the curriculum. Learning one PCB design software generally gives you an idea how to easily adjust and work towards the other. It will be much easier for you to learn how to use other EDA packages if you know how to use one. All of them use standard features which is easily transferable. Learning Kicad on the other hand as your first EDA package is very essential when you start to work for the industries that uses commercial EDA packages like Protel, OrCAD (Cadence), PADS, P-CAD, Eagle, etc. because these commercial EDA packages offer more features but still contains the standard ones that can be found Kicad. So it means you can easily adapt from Kicad to any of the commercial EDA packages. You will see that most of the features you are looking for in Kicad might exist in these commercial ones so learning Kicad is a valuable part in the process even for a beginner or advance user. I've been using Protel for 6 years now but when I started to learn Kicad, P-CAD, OrCAD, etc. several years ago I was able to adapt easily just by exploring the software itself and this forum doesn't exist yet so there's no one to ask for help. So you see that learning one EDA package (any package) is all that you need and explore. Good luck to you all. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, I have a question: what degree is your son working on? I have a BSEE degree from a top state university, and I never did any PCB design while in school. This is generally not covered in BS-level undergrad classes, and probably not in grad-level classes either. It's considered something you pick up on the job, if you need it. The whole idea of learning one particular software package in preparation for a job in industry is ridiculous, IMO. If you shell out $25,000 for Orcad or PADS or whatever (!), what happens when you apply to a company that uses something different but similarly costly? You just wasted $25k! You could have downloaded Kicad (or even EAGLE) for free and had the same background: familiarity with a different PCB design package that will allow you to come up to speed more quickly than someone who's never designed a PCB before. Or were you planning on selling your house and purchasing seats for all the major PCB programs so your son can have a slight advantage in getting an entry-level job paying $50k? I don't mean to insult you, but I have these dollar figures are giving you a bit of sticker shock, because they should. This isn't like buying a copy of MS Office (which is still expensive, but not compared to EDA software) instead of downloading OpenOffice.org for free. EDA software of any kind is usually extremely expensive, if you're a private individual on a budget. It's priced for companies who can afford to spend tens of thousands on a single software package, because that's a lot cheaper than having a team of $200k/year engineers (including salary, benefits, etc.) waste their valuable time with software that doesn't work as well. If you're just some guy at home with an electronics hobby, the idea of purchasing anything more industry standard than EAGLE (which is not an industry standard compared to the high-dollar packages) is just insanity unless you have more money than you know what to do with. On top of all that, companies have a penchant for wasting money on software when there's free software available that works better. Look how many companies still use Windows for tasks that would be much better suited to Linux. (Not all do; take a trip to your local Lowe's sometime, and notice that all their terminals actually use a modified KDE.) Most big companies have managers who think you get more if you pay more, or you need some big company standing behind a product in case something goes wrong; these companies don't understand open-source/Free software at all. But times are changing. As someone else said, those high-dollar PCB packages feature rather clunky interfaces designed 30 years ago it seems. I wouldn't be surprised to see Kicad match and exceed many of these packages in 3-5 years, and for some of them to fall by the wayside. It's not as fast as with other Free software, where there's a larger userbase (like office software and operating systems), but there's still a decent amount of users here, and a decent amount of people who can help with software development. In addition, lots of people make their own parts libraries and contribute these back, which takes a lot of work out of designing a PCB. Personally, I'd like to see Kicad include more of these in the default distribution rather than having to get them separately. Dan --- In
[kicad-users] Re: Layout of plan
Translation to everyone from Erick Hello, I seek to know how to change the layout of the documents. The information in the lower right corner of the documents are incomplete and there I have to put special logos. I want to know how . Thank you, Sincerely Erick On my side I think we can neither modify the layout nor insert a graphical image in SCH and PCB documents. Am I right? Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, prost.erick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Harold King Tarun haroldking@ wrote: Salut Erick Ãtes-vous parle en schéma ou circuits imprimés? Je ne comprends pas très bien ce que tu entend par cartouche. Cordialement, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, prost.erick e.prost@ wrote: Bonjour, Je suis un nouvel utilisateur de Kicad. J'aimerai savoir s'il est possible de changer l'aspect du cartouche des plan. Dans l'affirmative, la marche � suivre. Merci d'avance Cordialement, Erick Bonjour, Je cherche a savoir comment changer la mise en page des documents. Les informations en bas à droite des documents sont incomplète et il faut que je mette des logos spécifiques. J'aimerai savoir comment faire. Merci, Cordialement Erick
[kicad-users] Re: Layout of plan
Salut Erick Ãtes-vous parle en schéma ou circuits imprimés? Je ne comprends pas très bien ce que tu entend par cartouche. Cordialement, Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, prost.erick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour, Je suis un nouvel utilisateur de Kicad. J'aimerai savoir s'il est possible de changer l'aspect du cartouche des plan. Dans l'affirmative, la marche � suivre. Merci d'avance Cordialement, Erick
[kicad-users] Re: new sheet
Hi Pedro Not all sub-sheets are of the same level and a sub-sheet can also contain several sheets and these sub-sheets can also contain sub-sheets. To put it in simple terms its like a directory structure in file systems. You can treat files as components and folders as sub-sheets. I hope this helps. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Pedro MartÃn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, maybe I do not understand hierarchial sheets at all and maybe I use hierarchial as flat. I have done some designs with several sheets each one. My mother sheet has only output/input connectors and as many sub-sheets as functional blocks. So, I only step down one level at a time. For me all sub-sheets are at the same level and the mother sheet is used for interconnecting them. I hope I could help with this point of view. Pedro. I have an issue also with new sheets. I have been using Kicad for about 2 years now and have never figured out how to do a flat schematic. When a schematic is only 3 or 4 pages Hierarchial is really kind of unnecessary. I have read the tutorials and helps and still don't see it.
[kicad-users] Re: new sheet
Hi Dave Like Danillo said all the information you need is in EEschema help file chapter 5.7. If you have already already used other commercial EDA packages like Protel, OrCAD, PADS, etc. you can easily relate to but if not the help file is very useful for any beginner and advance user. Regards Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Danilo Uccelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/11/1, k7da1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi all, another newbie here and having trouble. could not find an answer in the messages or in the program. in eeshema how do i make the graphics smaller, the page larger or add another sheet so i can continue drawing. and is there a way to keep the wires connected to a part when moving it? dave alexander . Hello Dave, You should take a look at the help files, especially chapter 2 of Eeschema help. You will certainly find the response to you question ;-) Welcome to the Kicad users group. -- Danilo Uccelli CH-2400 Le Locle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[kicad-users] Re: Unused pins
Hi David, I suggest you use a No Connect Flag to those un-used pins. This will not generate any error when you run DRC (PCB) or ERC (SCH). I understand what you mean, you can create your own schematic library using the library editor to create your own set or customized component but be sure to place a footprint to link your component to PCB. I hope this helps. Cheers Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, David Bourgeois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm creating new components for eeschema and have 2 questions. 1. How should I handle 'NC' (not connected) pins of my component? If I add them, the ERC checks for a connection, even if 'No Draw' is active. Should I simply not place them? 2. Many IC's have 2 or more alternatives depending on the packaging. The ATMega88 has different pinouts in PDIP and SMD packages. The component is even different as a couple of pins (ADC6, ADC7) are only available in the SMD versions. Should I create 2 different components? It seems the 'De Morgan convert' stuff is close to what I need but is not really made for that purpose, and would only allow 2 different views anyway which won't be enough for some components. Thanks, David Bourgeois
[kicad-users] Re: using subfolders for extra libraries
Like David Cleare said you just need to save the configuration file to the same project or embed into your existing project because otherwise when you load the project file your configuration file is lost. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, David Cleare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must be missing something obvious here... How can I add libraries and modules that are in subfolders of the main /kicad/library and /kicad/modules folders? When I browse to them in Libs and Dir, I can add, but when I close the window the error Library ... not found.. It even happens when I specifiy the full path. I'm using the Win32 version of KiCad. sorry if this is too obvious, did you try save cfg. I haven't tried your exact thing your are doing, but it works for folders elsewhere.. dc
[kicad-users] Re: using subfolders for extra libraries
Hi Have you tried using the latest version of Kicad? because in my system both Win32 and Linux I can add new library (file), save configuration file and even stays there when I close and re-open the project. I'm not encountering any error so far. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, calvingrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must be missing something obvious here... How can I add libraries and modules that are in subfolders of the main /kicad/library and /kicad/modules folders? When I browse to them in Libs and Dir, I can add, but when I close the window the error Library ... not found.. It even happens when I specifiy the full path. I'm using the Win32 version of KiCad.
[kicad-users] Re: Unused pins
And the easiest way is to copy and edit the existing component to create a new component based on the data sheet. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Harold King Tarun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, I suggest you use a No Connect Flag to those un-used pins. This will not generate any error when you run DRC (PCB) or ERC (SCH). I understand what you mean, you can create your own schematic library using the library editor to create your own set or customized component but be sure to place a footprint to link your component to PCB. I hope this helps. Cheers Harold --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, David Bourgeois david@ wrote: Hi all, I'm creating new components for eeschema and have 2 questions. 1. How should I handle 'NC' (not connected) pins of my component? If I add them, the ERC checks for a connection, even if 'No Draw' is active. Should I simply not place them? 2. Many IC's have 2 or more alternatives depending on the packaging. The ATMega88 has different pinouts in PDIP and SMD packages. The component is even different as a couple of pins (ADC6, ADC7) are only available in the SMD versions. Should I create 2 different components? It seems the 'De Morgan convert' stuff is close to what I need but is not really made for that purpose, and would only allow 2 different views anyway which won't be enough for some components. Thanks, David Bourgeois
[kicad-users] Re: moving text
Hi Maybe this will help. In PCBNEW if you manually placed a text using the T button from the toolbar just right click onto the manually placed text then in the popup menu select PCB Text x (where x is your manually placed text) then choose move. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, developerhappy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EESchema allows you to move the text to above, below and right or left of the symbol. But the easiest thing to do is right click and select move field for the text you want to move. PCBNEW allows you to also move text (sometime called a reference). But it has the ability to show thick lines for the characters in the text. Please try the tutorials, this is explained very well there. Thank you for answer, but I asked only about PCBNEW and manually placed Text on the layer (T button on the right bar ) , not for module reference, for module reference it works I am going to check tutorials
[kicad-users] Re: moving text
Another way is select the whole text (make sure your in selection mode the arrow button) and then drag to the new position. but be careful because this can also move all objects selected including footprints, tracks, etc. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, developerhappy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EESchema allows you to move the text to above, below and right or left of the symbol. But the easiest thing to do is right click and select move field for the text you want to move. PCBNEW allows you to also move text (sometime called a reference). But it has the ability to show thick lines for the characters in the text. Please try the tutorials, this is explained very well there. Thank you for answer, but I asked only about PCBNEW and manually placed Text on the layer (T button on the right bar ) , not for module reference, for module reference it works I am going to check tutorials
[kicad-users] Re: How do I determine the size of the PCB
Just like Nilton said you can use the Add Cotation in the right hand side toolbar but not only used in edges pcb but also under comments, drawings, adhes cop, adhes cmp, soldp cop, soldp cmp, silks cop, silks cmp, mask copp, mask cmp, eco1 and eco2 layers. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, walfredux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I determine the size of the PCB. In Pcbnew or what ?
[kicad-users] Thanks
Hi to all I am a Protel User eversince almost 7-8 years now and have used several EDA CAD softwares like OrCAD, P-CAD, Cadense, Altium, PADS, multisim, ultiboard, ultiroute, etc. and also used several opensource softwares and nothing can be compared to the features of Kicad. Kicad can stand between the lines of freeware and commercial software with all its features. Thank you for this great work of art and the hardship of its developer and technical support. Cheers Harold
[kicad-users] Re: Exporting KiCad netlists to different formats
In my opinion auto-routing is not a very good way of routing the PCB. Even the most advance auto-routing of commercial software that Protel, Altium, OrCAD, etc. use could not comply the strict compliance with regards to interference (EMI), crosstalk, etc. on the other hand if your application is doesn't need strict compliance auto-router is a good tool just define your routing rules and its all done. it may take minutes or hours and some can take days and even months to finish using auto-routing. KiCad is a good tool for schematic editing and manual PCB layout, but if you need serious autorouting capabilities, KiCad is currently not likely to satisfy your requirements. --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, calvingrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Rich Cini rcini@ wrote: All: I have a quick question about netlist conversions. I'm not having much success with the KiCad autorouter so I want to try another board program, but I have the schematic all done in KiCad. Is there a way to convert the schematic netlist to Tango or OrCad format so I can import it into another board program to try its autorouter? I'm lazy and don't really want to manually route the board. It's a hobby project -- an expansion board for my 6502-based SBC. Very simple -- a bunch of parallel 2x25 headers -- but the autorouter leaves 2/3 of the routes unrouted. Of course, any advice to improve the success with the KiCad autorouter would be appreciated. Thanks! Rich Cini One possible route for this is to use the PADSPCB output format from EESchema. (You'll need to install the Add-in) If you've assigned a footprint based on the names from FreePCB (www.freepcb.com), then you can manipulate the layout in that program (it only runs under windows.) FreePCB has a simple method for using www.freerouting.net for autorouting boards. The routing can then be imported back into FreePCB. I don't know a way to get it back to PCBNEW, but you don't have to pull it back in since FreePCB can generate the Gerbers, drills, etc.
