KR> KR Poll, last chance

[Doran Jaffas]

Looking for enthusiastic builders and pilots to contact me offline.
The more the better.
Doran
   vintageaircraftowner at gmail.com
On Sep 8, 2016 1:32 PM, "Joel LaRock via KRnet" 
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> > I was somewhat overwhelmed with the response. I didn't know we had that
> > many active builders.  Which is awesome.  The response from the active
> > flyers was little on the weak side.   Maybe they are too busy flying
> there
> > KR's. : )So, If you haven't responded to the poll yet.  Send me an email
> > off net to  ppaulvsk at aol.com.
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> > " A" for active builders
> > " T" for first flight this year
> > " N" for first flight next year
> > ",F"  for flying KR's
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KR> KR Poll, last chance

[Doran Jaffas]

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On Sep 8, 2016 12:47 PM, "svd via KRnet"  wrote:

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> >> I was somewhat overwhelmed with the response. I didn't know we had that
> >> many active builders.  Which is awesome.  The response from the active
> >> flyers was little on the weak side.   Maybe they are too busy flying
> there
> >> KR's. : )So, If you haven't responded to the poll yet.  Send me an email
> >> off net to  ppaulvsk at aol.com .
> >> Put in the subject line.
> >> " A" for active builders
> >> " T" for first flight this year
> >> " N" for first flight next year
> >> ",F"  for flying KR's
> >> I will give out the results at the gathering and then post them.
> >>
> >> Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
> >> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
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KR> FW: 1 NEW: marvel schebler ma3-spa 10-4894. Off topic???

[Doran Jaffas]

Hi everyone.
I just recieved a Revmaster 2100D today. The engine appears to be in
excellent condition. I am wondering if any of you fly with this motor and
if so what carb and size do you use??
  Thank You.
Doran
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KR> Micro over "Smooth Prime"?

[Doran Jaffas]

Very good point. Still not difficult but 
On Sep 7, 2016 12:06 PM, "Dan Heath via KRnet"  wrote:

> You could use Super Fil which is another product made by PolyFiber.  Using
> a resin based filler, could, I emphasize, could, make it harder to sand
> than the Smooth Prime, thus, making it harder to get the smoothness you are
> after.
>
> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:56 AM, Pete Klapp via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
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> Netters
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> I have been priming my plane with "Smooth Prime" and unfortunately I have
> found
> a few minor areas that will require a little touch-up micro. Too big to
> fix with
> future priming and blocking prior to final paint. Is there a problem to
> apply
> micro over "Smooth Prime"? Any special prep to insure bonding?
>
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KR> Micro over "Smooth Prime"?

[Doran Jaffas]

In my experience there is not. Just color sand with 320 or 400 and go ahead
with the final prep. should work out okay.
Netters

I have been priming my plane with "Smooth Prime" and unfortunately I have
found a few minor areas that will require a little touch-up micro. Too big
to fix with future priming and blocking prior to final paint. Is there a
problem to apply micro over "Smooth Prime"? Any special prep to insure
bonding?

Pete Klapp
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KR> today's sunrise

[Doran Jaffas]

I second that!!
On Sep 4, 2016 7:34 PM, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
wrote:

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>  I had to take off at sunrise to get there, and stumbled across the great
>> sunrise at the top of http://www.n56ml.com/sunsets/ .
>> This is the kind of stuff that makes building a plane a lot more than
>> "just" having a time machine!  A good day all around...
>> Mark Langford
>>
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>
> Marks photo and comment reminded me of lines in a poem I wrote called "
> Night Flight"  that reflect on the beauty of night flight.
>
> " The greatest beauties in life are too often enjoyed in solitude.
>My wish, to capture this moment and share it with the world, denied.
>I can only later speak, as a prophet with a vision, telling others
> of the beauty that I saw."
>
> Fortunately Mark had a camera and is able to share that moment with all of
> us.  Keep them coming Mark...
>
> Larry Flesner
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KR> Fuel gauges- senders

[Doran Jaffas]

This is a simple answer so please don't take offense.
I always do a visual check. Top off before each flight. Then time the
fuel usage by engine run time.
I am flying a Tri Pacer that I use that system with and have a stock KR
2 that should be ready in a few months that I will also do that with. There
is a visual guage in the KR 2 but will still go by engine run time.
Not very sophisticated I know but safe.
 Good Luck.
On Sep 4, 2016 3:28 AM, "Phillip Matheson via KRnet" 
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> I am about to make long outter wing tanks for my 2ss and would like to
> hear from flyers that have solved the problem of what senders to use and
> calibrating the long tapering wing tanks to get reasonable accuracy.
> I have spoken to Larry about is extra long senders he used, but he still
> can't get good readings.
> I have even considered sight glasses on the inside  the of fuselage.
> Thanks in advance
>
> Phillip Matheson
> Australia
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KR> First flight

[Doran Jaffas]

I concur with that. I did 10 or 12 on my Sonerai 2. When I came in over the
fence with oil on the windshield the landing configuration was familiar and
the resulting landing though blind in front was a good one. Get very
familiar with the ground cues.
On Sep 2, 2016 4:47 PM, "Robert Pesak via KRnet" 
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> Mike,I put all most ten hours taxi testing before my first flight. knowing
> how it handles on the ground will make for a good landing.
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KR> FAA inspection

[Doran Jaffas]

Did it happen??
If so a Big CONGRATULATIONS!!
On Sep 1, 2016 7:23 AM, "Mike Sylvester via KRnet" 
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> Morning Guys, Today is the day. 9 years in the making and finally meeting
> the FAA this morning. She should be legal by about 10 o'clock. Wish me
> luck. Will post later with results.
>
>
> Mike Sylvester
> kr2s builder
> Birmingham,AL.
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KR> FAA inspection

[Doran Jaffas]

FANTASTIC Keep us up to date. Congratulations!! Send a pic to my email
if you can.
Doran
PS mine should happen June 2017 or earlier.

On Sep 1, 2016 7:30 AM, "Earl Klinker via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Best of luck and congrats
>
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> On 9/1/2016 7:22 AM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet wrote:
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>> Morning Guys, Today is the day. 9 years in the making and finally meeting
>> the FAA this morning. She should be legal by about 10 o'clock. Wish me
>> luck. Will post later with results.
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KR> KR roll over protection

[Doran Jaffas]

Thanks.  I am planning to use aircraft heavy wall tubing or even more
abrasive...steel...wondering how they are being set. I do not want to drill
into my rear spar. Suggestions? The force of a roll over can be many times
the weight of an aircraft. A friend has a brake lock on his Mustang and he
went over. He was fortunate. He recovered from a broken neck and rebuilt
his bird. I don't really want that to happen.
On Aug 31, 2016 5:26 PM, "Paul Visk via KRnet"  wrote:

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> I made mine with alternating carbon fiber cloth and 1/8" foam. It was
> tested by standing on the bow with 300 lbs of weight. I have more pic's at
> home  if desired.https://flic.kr/p/s3kGAQhttps://flic.kr/p/tcLYa3
> Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
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KR> KR Poll

[Doran Jaffas]

They look pretty able to me! Right size too!
Im keeping this pic. Help me diet!
Thanks Larry
On Aug 31, 2016 4:58 PM, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
wrote:

> At 01:58 PM 8/31/2016, you wrote:
>
>> I checked the archives and couldn't find anything on roll over
>> protection. Does anyone have any pics of theirs??
>>
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> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/PC120562.JPG
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> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/013_13.JPG  If anyone is
> going to roll it over it would be these two, now 10 years old.
>
> Larry Flesner
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KR> KR Poll

[Doran Jaffas]

I checked the archives and couldn't find anything on roll over protection.
Does anyone have any pics of theirs??
Installation photos???
   Thanks,
   Doran
Central lower Mi.
On Aug 28, 2016 9:22 PM, "Paul Visk via KRnet"  wrote:

>
>
> I think it would be fun to find out how many active KR builders there
> currently are. I'll let you determine for yourself if you consider yourself
> active. Next , if you had your first flight this year or you are planning
> to have it next year.
> Just email me at ppaulvsk at aol.com.In the subject line put" A" for active
> builder" T" for first flight this year " N" for first flight next yearI
> will give out the results at the gathering.
>
> Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
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KR> Wankel Rotary

[Doran Jaffas]

I have a VW motor mount coming. Someone on here contacted me about having a
Great Plains VW for sale near Nappanee, Ind.
Waiting to hear back from him.
On another note...all repairs are completed and the fuselage final sanded
and ready for primer.
Thanks for all the help in confirming that the VW is still one of the
best choices.
On Aug 26, 2016 8:25 PM, "Larry via KRnet"  wrote:

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>
> > On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Harold Wagenknecht wrote:
> >
> > Doran,
> >
> > ... Stay away from wankels Very hot exhaust Loud Sealing
> issues.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> Harold, you may be right about your above statement.
> Years ago one of my neighbors built an original Rotorway Helicopter and
> used a Mazda Rotary engine on it. I stood nearby as he ran the engine rpm
> fast enough to attempt an almost hover. That engine was screaming, the
> exhaust pipe turned red, I thought the exhaust was going to melt and fall
> off of the engine. It (the exhaust) was out in the open luckily. If it had
> been inside of a fiberglass cowling who knows what may have happened.
> I was very surprised to see that because I had known people who had Mazda
> rotary automobiles and I had never heard anything about this. The engine on
> the helicopter had a lite weight thinner wall tubing exhaust compared to an
> automobile exhaust manifold I'm sure. Anyway, it was scary looking and
> SCREAMING LOUD!
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 223

[Doran Jaffas]

There is a company in Georgia that specializes in the Corvair. The have an
airplane called the Saber Wing. Beautiful!!
Check them out at azaleaaviation.com
On Aug 26, 2016 4:39 PM, "don january via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Water cooled? best to stick with a EJ25 Subaru, Heck I think they still
> make blocks for them not like the Corvair,  lucky to find a matchung set of
> core half's anymore. Geo is intreging.
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>     1.  Wankel Rotary (Doran Jaffas)
> 2. Re:  Wankel Rotary (Virgil N.
>  Salisbury)
> 3. Re:  Wankel Rotary (Doran Jaffas)
> 4. Re:  Wankel Rotary (Timothy
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> 5. Re:  Wankel Rotary (Harold
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>  Message: 1
>  Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:40:53 -0700
>  From: Doran Jaffas 
>  To: krnet at list.krnet.org
>  Subject: KR> Wankel Rotary
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>  Has there been a successful installation of a Wankel rotary
>  in a KR2? I
>  have a chance to pick one up that came out of an airplane
>  but I wanted to
>  check hete first. No turbo on this one.
>   Thanks.
>Doran
>1983 KR2 restoration
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>  Message: 2
>  Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 09:10:35 -0400
>  From: "Virgil N. Salisbury" 
>  To: KRnet 
>  Subject: Re: KR> Wankel Rotary
>  Message-ID: <54d94d13-79a0-064f-7c5a-5aaf53bff8fa at bellsouth.net>
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>  Regular Rotary is heavy. Need a single
>  rotor, Virg
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>  On 8/25/2016 4:40 PM, Doran Jaffas via
>  KRnet wrote:
>  > Has there been a successful installation of a Wankel
>  rotary in a KR2? I
>  > have a chance to pick one up that came out of an
>  airplane but I wanted to
>  > check hete first. No turbo on this one.
>  >  Thanks.
>  >   Doran
>  >   1983 KR2 restoration
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>  Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 06:13:09 -0700
>  From: Doran Jaffas 
>  To: KRnet 
>  Subject: Re: KR> Wankel Rotary
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KR> Wankel Rotary

[Doran Jaffas]

Thanks. I am going to try and get down to Nappanee Indiana this morning to
pick up a Volkswagen engine. I called Great Plains and they have the
accessories for the conversion for around $2,000. Something I will take my
time building over the next 2 or 3 months.
On Aug 26, 2016 9:11 AM, "Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet" <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

>
> Regular Rotary is heavy. Need a single rotor, Virg
>
>
>     On 8/25/2016 4:40 PM, Doran Jaffas via KRnet wrote:
>
>> Has there been a successful installation of a Wankel rotary in a KR2? I
>> have a chance to pick one up that came out of an airplane but I wanted to
>> check hete first. No turbo on this one.
>>  Thanks.
>>   Doran
>>   1983 KR2 restoration
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KR> Wankel Rotary

[Doran Jaffas]

Has there been a successful installation of a Wankel rotary in a KR2? I
have a chance to pick one up that came out of an airplane but I wanted to
check hete first. No turbo on this one.
 Thanks.
  Doran
  1983 KR2 restoration

KR> Speeds

[Doran Jaffas]

Hello Everyone
   I've read quite abit about expected airspeeds. Some contradicting each
other.
   Depending on the engines used there seems to be quite a variation
   My question is simply this; On a stock retractable gear KR2 what is the
maximum safe continous safe real world operating speed assuming a properly
built aircraft?
 May have been already asked so feel free to point me in the right
direction.
   Thank You

KR> VW 2180

[Doran Jaffas]

If you have it in a few days might make an offer. May have my Harley sold.
On Aug 19, 2016 9:46 PM, "Info--- via KRnet"  wrote:

> I have a 2180 VW. Hapi Magnum engine with new GP heads, duel electronic
> ignition all firewall forward for sale.  $3000 or a good offer
>
> Lee Van Dyke
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KR> Gathering attendees

[Doran Jaffas]

Just for info. Ionia, Mich. (Y70) has 27/9 paved and 36/18 turf with
excellent parking. School of Mission Aviation Training on the field and
glider flights available.
Doran
On Aug 19, 2016 7:59 PM, "Larry Flesner via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
>
> With just weeks till the KR Gathering, I touched base today with Chris
> Collins, the airport manager, to confirm final arrangements.  For those
> that have not attended a Gathering at Mt.Vernon I'll lay out some
> information points to keep in mind:
>
> - Restaurant on the field in the terminal building serving lunch and
> dinner buffet with breakfast items during the Gathering.  Donnie Wilkie and
> staff will treat you like old friends.  Give them your business when
> possible.  They will also cater the Saturday evening awards banquet.  The
> banquet will be held in the terminal commons area at 7:00PM Saturday
> evening.
>
> - KR fliers: We all enjoy fly-bys but limit your pass to no closer to the
> terminal than the taxiways.  Keep in mind the AirEvac facility on the
> airport and respect any emergency operations such as picking up KR drivers
> out of local bean fields.  No low passes over the campground or AirEvac
> facility, main runway only.
>
> - Chris is checking the possibility of us using a computer projector owned
> by a friend of the airport.
>
> - Camping:  Great camp site by the lake within walking distance of the
> terminal and the hangar where bathroom and showers are available.  At the
> last Gathering we actually had people camping in the hangar.  The pavilion
> at the camp ground has been updated by an Eagle scout with new roof and
> other upgrades.  For those camping, alcohol is not allowed on the airport
> but "party beverages" are tolerated if done so responsibility.  Enough
> said?  A few electrical hookups were available in the past for motor homes
> and large campers behind the FBO hangar.  I forgot to check but they are
> probably still available, first come , first served.   Wood for fire will
> be available at the pavilion.
>
> - Something to sell?  bring it and we'll set up a table(s) to display your
> ware.  Tables available in terminal commons for photo albums and other
> display items.  Bring anything you'd like to share.
>
> -  It's tough asking someone to set at the registration table all day to
> sell hats/shirts/ banquet tickets so I will be limiting the hours to
> 10:00AM till 3:00PM.  I'll ask John to update the web page with that info.
> Name tags will be available so please use them so we can put names with
> faces.  Please purchase your banquet tickets by Saturday noon so we have an
> accurate head count for Donnie.
>
> _  The location for the  2017 Gathering will be voted on at the Saturday
> evening banquet.  We presently have one offer but anyone is allowed to make
> a proposal at the banquet.  Want to host a Gathering?  Suggestions are
> welcome but only serious proposals / presentations will be considered.
>
> -  Forums will be held in the conference room in the terminal (seating for
> 60+) or in the terminal commons area, location to be announced at the
> Gathering.
>
> - Use caution on the ramp for aircraft movements and give them clear
> space.  Remember, us tail dragger pilots have a hard time seeing you,
> stand well clear.
>
> -  Very friendly FBO.  Walk down and thank them for their support.
>
> -  A portion of an 11,900 square foot hangar should be available for the
> KR's at no cost to fliers unless something unforeseen comes up.  Chris will
> move heaven and earth to make it available.
>
> I know I'm forgetting something so I'll post it when I think of it.  This
> is my 25th KR Gathering of the last 26.  I missed the one in California
> after turning back in Northwest Arkansas.  Joe Horton continued on from
> there to leave an oil trail all the way to the west coast. :-) Mark
> Langford was unable to even leave his home airport on that run.
>
> Questions?  Flesner at frontier.com   cell 618 201 5958
>
> Life is goodSee you at the Gathering.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
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KR> Kr2s Engine?

[Doran Jaffas]

Just spoke with Bill Clap owner of Azalea Aviation in Adel Georgia.
He sells kits and Corvair conversions. He has owned several KR's as well.
His engines have been on the market for a while now.
 Just a thought.

Ps. I am purchasing a VW engine mount from him.
On Aug 18, 2016 4:14 PM, "Doran Jaffas" 
wrote:

> Sounds like Ill stick with the venerable VW. The 0200 is a good engine and
> a good midtime one can be had reasonably.
> On Aug 17, 2016 11:46 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
>> As Mark says, it mostly boils down to personal preference.  A more
>> realistic view of the fuel burn was when Joe Horton and I flew side by side
>> from Los Alamos,NM to Chino, CA and back, he in his Corvair powered KR and
>> me in my O-200 powered KR.  We flew the whole trip within sight of each
>> other.  There are differences between our planes to be sure, but we are
>> very closely matched in speed and performance.  Joe burned 1/2 gal/hr less
>> than I did with my O-200 for the trip.
>>
>> On the other hand, in 1150 hrs, my KR has never fallen from the sky.  Not
>> many Corvair powered KRs can make that claim.  For sure, I have abused and
>> broken things in my engine.  But the O-200 is stout where it counts.  It
>> has never missed a beat, and things like a broken rocker shaft boss were
>> found while performing routine maintenance in the hangar.  If you're going
>> to build a Corvair to try to match an O-200 for reliability, it's going to
>> cost as much to build as the O-200.
>>
>> -Jeff Scott
>> Los Alamos, NM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 6:55 PM
>> From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
>> To: KRnet 
>> Cc: "Mark Langford" 
>> Subject: Re: KR> Kr2s Engine?
>> "Stan" wrote:
>>
>> > Based on the above wouldn't the Corvair seem to be the better
>> > choice? What is the advantage of the o200 vs the Corvair or the
>> > Corvair over the o200? What is the time between overhaul on a
>> > Corvair?
>>
>> The difference between the two boils down to the O-200 is a real
>> airplane engine, designed for the job, with compromises to make it last.
>> This includes lower compression for reduced stressed, and a more
>> primitive carb for simplicity. The biggest thing with the O-200 is that
>> it's purpose made for the job, with giant bearing near the prop to
>> handle prop loads.
>>
>> The Corvair was not designed to run wide open all the time, but if you
>> put a $2000 crankshaft in it and add a $1000 front bearing, the crank
>> becomes pretty reliable and there are few weak links left, one of which
>> is the semi-rare cam gear failure (and we know what to watch for on that
>> now). Rebuilds on a Corvair are pretty cheap, compared to the O-200,
>> and heads and cylinders survive rather well. Corvair parts are rather
>> plentiful, and simple stuff like gears are still made and cheap, rather
>> than rare and expensive.
>>
>> Having said that, if reliability is your number one goal, the O-200 is
>> the way to go. If efficiency and performance is your goal, the Corvair
>> may be the way to go. Cost is probably about the same either way, as
>> far as initial installation, depending on luck and scrounging ability.
>>
>> It's too early to tell what the TBO is on the Corvair...there just
>> aren't enough hours on them yet. I'd bet serious money that it's longer
>> on the Continental than the Corvair though! I don't think anybody would
>> disagree with that.
>>
>> I have a lot invested in Corvairs, and will stick with them. They are
>> far better than VWs, both in reliability and safety. And I have two of
>> them ready to run already. No, I'm not trying to sell either of them.
>> If I were starting over and an O-200 presented itself for a reasonable
>> price, I'd seriously considering buying it. With a new 4340 crank in my
>> Corvair though, I'm good with that option too, especially since they are
>> both paid for.
>>
>>
>> Mark Langford
>> ML at N56ML.com
>> http://www.n56ml.com
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KR> KR2S gross weight question

[Doran Jaffas]

Very good INFORMATION . Thanks from a new KR fan.
On Aug 19, 2016 8:40 AM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Folks who witnessed the attempted destruction of a stub spar at a past
> Gathering will probably agree that the spars have a significant margin
> of safety on the KRs. The spars were jacked up to the point of being
> bent probably 14" upward from the fuselage, and neither fuselage nor
> spars gave.  Finally, the shear web started to split, but the spars were
> still fine and ready to accept more load.  Anybody who witnesses that
> test had to walk away impressed with the spar strength, especially
> considering that in anything like normal (but bumpy) flight, the wings
> never even flex.
>
> And despite all the concern about the WAFs and their connection, neither
> wing component  is likely to fail, and in fact, never have in any kind
> of normal (not crash) flight.
>
> Larry Flesner and I have seen wings where the spar broke on impact with
> the ground at the bottom of a spin, and the spar broke a few inches from
> the WAF, not at the WAF or the connections from WAF to spars.
>
> Marty Roberts used to fly big guys at the Gathering hard and fast, with
> a gross weight of probably 1200+ pounds, and his g-meter would usually
> come back with 6g's or so stuck on it.  He reset it for every flight.
>
> Just a data point, but I personally will lose no sleep over my spars
> breaking...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> ML "at" N56ML.com
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KR> KR2S gross weight question

[Doran Jaffas]

I will add one more thought here. In many...not all small aircraft the wing
are just wont lift the weight it would take to break it in NORMAL flight .
As stated by the previous indivdual...aerobatics adds another and lighter
number to normal gross weight.
 I am new to KR aircraft as well and have spoken with some very
knowledgeable folks on here and I plan to use a general number they have
expressed and minus 5% to be extra careful until I understand her needs and
my ability with my KR2 grows.
Doran
On Aug 19, 2016 7:46 AM, "n357cj via KRnet"  wrote:

> Gary,
> I have N357Cj placarded at 1250# but I also lowered the G rating to +4 g
> and I don't remember the negative number right now. but in any case I don't
> feel it is simply a gross weight decision.
> Joe Horton
>
>
> Subject: KR> KR2S gross weight question
>
> I've been researching this for a little while but am not finding any real
> info.  What are KR2S builders using as their gross weight?  I'm looking at
> tri-gear and Corvair engine.
>
>
>
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KR> Cross Country Planning

[Doran Jaffas]

As far as the VW goes. I have flown behind several. They have basic
maintenance requirements but I trust them as much as a Lycoming or
Continental. Time between overhaul is significantly (500hrs for a starting
point)  shorter but as long as they are not overbuilt they will serve you
well. With the VW...simple is the watch word. Good crank. High quality
cylinders. Accepted and proven carburetors. Magnetos or solid state
ignition both work but again...use whats been proven.
   Fly safe but have fun.
Doran
On Aug 18, 2016 5:43 PM, "Mike T via KRnet"  wrote:

> Forget about the oxygen -- what engine and what size fuel tanks do you
> have?  I'm planning on a VW, but still wondering a bit whether they're
> reliable enough.
>
> Also, are you flying on top of the weather, too?  That's how Ken Rand died.
> He was flying VFR on top and ran out of gas.
>
> Mike Taglieri
>
> On Aug 18, 2016 4:20 PM, "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
> > Someone recently described their cross country flight planning technique
> > as basically looking to see if there's anything in the way between
> > departure airport and destination, and then hopping in the plane and
> > going.   That's my technique as well.  I've never understood what all the
> > fuss with "flight planning" is about.  Our task is to go from A to B.
> > What could be simpler?   Skyvector is free and is as good as it gets for
> > "glimpse and go" flight planning.  I wanted to add to this
> > conversation/topic the fact that having oxygen for full-time use when
> > travelling gives us another dimension to work with in avoiding
> > obstructions between departure and destination, thus making "glimpse and
> > go" flight planning even simpler than it already is.  Flying high lets us
> > sail right over the top of terminal airspace, no matter how complicated
> > or busy.  Same with Restricted airspace, depending on its ceiling.  Same
> > with mountains and everything else on the ground, including turbulence on
> > bumpy days.  Having a big tank of O2 with a pulse-demand regulator and
> > Oxymizer cannula opens up the door to all the advantages that come with
> > altitude.  TCA directly ahead?  I just ignore them, although I'll monitor
> > approach and be ready to talk to someone in case the engine decides to
> > crap out halfway across.  Normally though I'd much rather listen to the
> > engine than to radio yakking.
> >
> > I originally put together an oxygen system (eBay for everything -
> > approximately $100 total) to try and prevent the headaches that I used to
> > get when going from near sea level to 12.5 or 13.5, especially if I
> > hadn't flown for awhile.  Oxygen did indeed fix that problem.
> >
> > Having a big tank with a demand regulator means I can go completely
> > across the U.S. and back to San Diego and still have oxygen left in the
> > bottle.  The big tank (E size, 24 cu. ft.) minimizes the hassle of
> > getting it re-filled.  I've never had to find an oxygen source when on
> > the road.  I always make it back home and to my familiar (and cheap) dive
> > shop for refills.  The primary factor regarding long duration is the
> > demand regulator though.  With the old constant flow regulators
> > traditionally used in aviation, O2 would disappear quiickly no matter how
> > big the tanks were.
> >
> > My "E" tank lies along the right side of the fuselage, braced by the
> > bottom and fuselage side and at the bottom of the tank, a styrofoam
> > pocket anchored to the bottom of the plane.  The tank portrudes forward
> > through a cut-out on my seatback and it's the seatback that braces the
> > tank to keep it from coming forward.  My baggage compartment insert sits
> > on top of the tank, providing even more bracing to prevent the tank from
> > moving.  Mounted this way it isn't in the way at all.  I've lost no
> > baggage space.  The regulator sits immediately beside my right hip thus
> > allowing access.   It's all very simple and extremely valuable to have.
> >
> > *
> >
> > So . . . re cross country planning, using oxygen and going high
> > simplifies things even more and makes flying safer in several ways.
> > There's less traffic at oxygen altitudes than below them, plus glide
> > range is much enhanced in case of a mechanical issue.  It helps
> > significantly with fatigue and also improves vision, especially at night.
> >  I could go on and on . . . I love my bottle!
> >
> > Mike
> > KSEE
> > Laser147 at Juno.com
> >
> > 
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KR> Cross Country Planning

[Doran Jaffas]

I see his point and going direct has its merits at altitude but myself...I
like to see scenery and deviating around the airspace isn't a big issue for
me but then again I also own a Tri Pacer and even with the mode s installed
I avoid "big" airspace.
 On the other hand regarding weather a long time 747 Captain once said
regarding weather. " I never check weather.  The weather that's there is
the weather your gonna get". Sums it up.
   Happy flying.
D. Jaffas
On Aug 18, 2016 4:20 PM, "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Someone recently described their cross country flight planning technique
> as basically looking to see if there's anything in the way between
> departure airport and destination, and then hopping in the plane and
> going.   That's my technique as well.  I've never understood what all the
> fuss with "flight planning" is about.  Our task is to go from A to B.
> What could be simpler?   Skyvector is free and is as good as it gets for
> "glimpse and go" flight planning.  I wanted to add to this
> conversation/topic the fact that having oxygen for full-time use when
> travelling gives us another dimension to work with in avoiding
> obstructions between departure and destination, thus making "glimpse and
> go" flight planning even simpler than it already is.  Flying high lets us
> sail right over the top of terminal airspace, no matter how complicated
> or busy.  Same with Restricted airspace, depending on its ceiling.  Same
> with mountains and everything else on the ground, including turbulence on
> bumpy days.  Having a big tank of O2 with a pulse-demand regulator and
> Oxymizer cannula opens up the door to all the advantages that come with
> altitude.  TCA directly ahead?  I just ignore them, although I'll monitor
> approach and be ready to talk to someone in case the engine decides to
> crap out halfway across.  Normally though I'd much rather listen to the
> engine than to radio yakking.
>
> I originally put together an oxygen system (eBay for everything -
> approximately $100 total) to try and prevent the headaches that I used to
> get when going from near sea level to 12.5 or 13.5, especially if I
> hadn't flown for awhile.  Oxygen did indeed fix that problem.
>
> Having a big tank with a demand regulator means I can go completely
> across the U.S. and back to San Diego and still have oxygen left in the
> bottle.  The big tank (E size, 24 cu. ft.) minimizes the hassle of
> getting it re-filled.  I've never had to find an oxygen source when on
> the road.  I always make it back home and to my familiar (and cheap) dive
> shop for refills.  The primary factor regarding long duration is the
> demand regulator though.  With the old constant flow regulators
> traditionally used in aviation, O2 would disappear quiickly no matter how
> big the tanks were.
>
> My "E" tank lies along the right side of the fuselage, braced by the
> bottom and fuselage side and at the bottom of the tank, a styrofoam
> pocket anchored to the bottom of the plane.  The tank portrudes forward
> through a cut-out on my seatback and it's the seatback that braces the
> tank to keep it from coming forward.  My baggage compartment insert sits
> on top of the tank, providing even more bracing to prevent the tank from
> moving.  Mounted this way it isn't in the way at all.  I've lost no
> baggage space.  The regulator sits immediately beside my right hip thus
> allowing access.   It's all very simple and extremely valuable to have.
>
> *
>
> So . . . re cross country planning, using oxygen and going high
> simplifies things even more and makes flying safer in several ways.
> There's less traffic at oxygen altitudes than below them, plus glide
> range is much enhanced in case of a mechanical issue.  It helps
> significantly with fatigue and also improves vision, especially at night.
>  I could go on and on . . . I love my bottle!
>
> Mike
> KSEE
> Laser147 at Juno.com
>
> 
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> The Royal Bank of Canada Wants This Video Removed for Good
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KR> Kr2s Engine?

[Doran Jaffas]

Sounds like Ill stick with the venerable VW. The 0200 is a good engine and
a good midtime one can be had reasonably.
On Aug 17, 2016 11:46 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
wrote:

> As Mark says, it mostly boils down to personal preference.  A more
> realistic view of the fuel burn was when Joe Horton and I flew side by side
> from Los Alamos,NM to Chino, CA and back, he in his Corvair powered KR and
> me in my O-200 powered KR.  We flew the whole trip within sight of each
> other.  There are differences between our planes to be sure, but we are
> very closely matched in speed and performance.  Joe burned 1/2 gal/hr less
> than I did with my O-200 for the trip.
>
> On the other hand, in 1150 hrs, my KR has never fallen from the sky.  Not
> many Corvair powered KRs can make that claim.  For sure, I have abused and
> broken things in my engine.  But the O-200 is stout where it counts.  It
> has never missed a beat, and things like a broken rocker shaft boss were
> found while performing routine maintenance in the hangar.  If you're going
> to build a Corvair to try to match an O-200 for reliability, it's going to
> cost as much to build as the O-200.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 6:55 PM
> From: "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: "Mark Langford" 
> Subject: Re: KR> Kr2s Engine?
> "Stan" wrote:
>
> > Based on the above wouldn't the Corvair seem to be the better
> > choice? What is the advantage of the o200 vs the Corvair or the
> > Corvair over the o200? What is the time between overhaul on a
> > Corvair?
>
> The difference between the two boils down to the O-200 is a real
> airplane engine, designed for the job, with compromises to make it last.
> This includes lower compression for reduced stressed, and a more
> primitive carb for simplicity. The biggest thing with the O-200 is that
> it's purpose made for the job, with giant bearing near the prop to
> handle prop loads.
>
> The Corvair was not designed to run wide open all the time, but if you
> put a $2000 crankshaft in it and add a $1000 front bearing, the crank
> becomes pretty reliable and there are few weak links left, one of which
> is the semi-rare cam gear failure (and we know what to watch for on that
> now). Rebuilds on a Corvair are pretty cheap, compared to the O-200,
> and heads and cylinders survive rather well. Corvair parts are rather
> plentiful, and simple stuff like gears are still made and cheap, rather
> than rare and expensive.
>
> Having said that, if reliability is your number one goal, the O-200 is
> the way to go. If efficiency and performance is your goal, the Corvair
> may be the way to go. Cost is probably about the same either way, as
> far as initial installation, depending on luck and scrounging ability.
>
> It's too early to tell what the TBO is on the Corvair...there just
> aren't enough hours on them yet. I'd bet serious money that it's longer
> on the Continental than the Corvair though! I don't think anybody would
> disagree with that.
>
> I have a lot invested in Corvairs, and will stick with them. They are
> far better than VWs, both in reliability and safety. And I have two of
> them ready to run already. No, I'm not trying to sell either of them.
> If I were starting over and an O-200 presented itself for a reasonable
> price, I'd seriously considering buying it. With a new 4340 crank in my
> Corvair though, I'm good with that option too, especially since they are
> both paid for.
>
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
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KR> KR2S gross weight question

[Doran Jaffas]

You can take Mr. Langfords word as golden. He knows.
On Aug 18, 2016 10:04 AM, "Mark Langford via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Gary Wold wrote:
>
> > I've been researching this for a little while but am not finding any real
> > info.  What are KR2S builders using as their gross weight?  I'm looking
> at
> > tri-gear and Corvair engine.
>
> I would think the average is probably between 1100 and 1200 on the data
> plate.
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> ML "at" N56ML.com
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KR> Cross Country Planning

[Doran Jaffas]

You can go into an unusual in a 172 if you're not careful! GPS has
definately made flight planning easier and safer. Just have a paper one
handy following and comparing the two.
On Aug 16, 2016 8:30 PM, "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" 
wrote:

> "By the way, you can't turn over a paper sectional in a KR in flight and
> not have to recover from an unusual attitude afterwards."
>
> Without at least a wing leveler, that's sure true.  It's even worse with
> the KR-1 cockpit.  I used paper back in the 80's with my first KR so
> clearly everyone did it.  I recall getting very creative with folds
> before leaving the ground.
>
> ***
>
> "He wanted me to do it the old way.  With a sectional, a plotter and a
> wiswheel and a phone call to
> flight service for a weather briefing.  And god forbid if I opened my GPS
> in flight.  After he signed my log book. We talked about it. He said the
> most pilots still plan on paper and use paper sectionals in flight.":
>
> I think he's right to have that attitude.  He's wrong about the last bit
> but teaching students to get a feel for the Earth instead of "just" for
> their screens is a good thing.  He knew you knew how to use a plotter so
> he probably did what he did for his own benefit, to help stay focussed
> and teach the essentials while surrounded by a blizzard of electronics.
> I refer here to some really good writing on the subject:
>
> http://goo.gl/qomcV9
>
>
> Mike
> KSEE
> Laser147 at Juno.com
>
> 
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KR> LED Strobe lights

[Doran Jaffas]

It is much easier to use approved equipment but in the US getting something
allowed is less of a headache on homebuilts. Also after the initial
inspection  you can add equipment as the mechanic and sign it off within
reason.
On Aug 16, 2016 7:39 PM, "Chris Gardiner via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Stefan,
> Yes, the requirements are the same in Canada for nav and strobe lights
> .(page 607 of the AC Spruce 2015 catalog I have)
> Check Transport Canada documents under Chapter 549.
> I have 2 strobes , one under the belly and one on top of the turtle deck,
> which is one of the approved scenarios. Whelen strobes are what I use.
> Regards
> Chris Gardiner
> C GKRZ
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 14, 2016, at 2:44 PM, S via KRnet  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I checked both Wicks and AS, as an exemple this one from Wicks website:
> > http://aircraftproducts.wicksaircraft.com/viewitems/
> aircraft-lighting/t-lighting-psa-enterprises-12v-tail-light-assembly?
> >
> > I presume all that are sold from these two sources are acceptable but...
> > I think in Canada the rules for aircraft lighting are same as in US, I
> was unsure whether the anti-colision strobes must comply to some
> specifications (as viewing angle, luminosity, etc.)
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Stefan
> >
> >>
> >> If you look in the Wicks catalog in the light section. Around page 152
> (I'm looking at an old catalog) they have the different categories of
> antique illusion stroke systems that are acceptable. Looks like you want to
> do Fig 3. I'm doing figure 4.with a tail light.
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul Visk
> >
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KR> Cross country planning and a KR

[Doran Jaffas]

That terminal app is avia weather.
On Aug 15, 2016 8:35 PM, "Doran Jaffas" 
wrote:

> I am a pilot for 30 years. I came across the Avare flight app 3 years ago
> and compared it to a glass cockpit in a Pilatus while flying from Sparta,
> Mich. to Naples, Fla.  The app was right on target. We did not use paper
> sectionals or plates and filed on the internet. I fly a Tri Pacer with the
> Avare app with a paper sectional for back up. I do call flight service to
> check MOA activity but I use My Radar and Accu weather app for expected wx
> enroute. Aviation weather app for terminal info. at destination. All are
> free apps.
> Doran
> On Aug 15, 2016 8:23 PM, "Paul Visk via KRnet" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Last weekend I had my first flight review in 24 years. My instructor was a
>> friend from my EAA chapter.  He wanted me to plan a 100 mile XC.
>> So I did. All on my Avare GPS app, E6B app and my weather app. I thought I
>> did a good job.  Well he didn't like it.  He wanted me to do it the
>> old way.  With a sectional, a plotter and a wiswheel and a phone call to
>> flight service for a weather briefing.  And god forbid if
>> I opened my GPS in flight.
>> After he signed my log book. We talked about it. He said the most pilots
>> still plan on paper and use paper sectionals in flight.
>> My question to you KR pilots is how do you plan XC's? Do you use
>> programs, Apps like foreflight and others or a combination of
>> both.  or do you just use paper? Just curious.
>>
>> Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
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KR> Cross country planning and a KR

[Doran Jaffas]

I am a pilot for 30 years. I came across the Avare flight app 3 years ago
and compared it to a glass cockpit in a Pilatus while flying from Sparta,
Mich. to Naples, Fla.  The app was right on target. We did not use paper
sectionals or plates and filed on the internet. I fly a Tri Pacer with the
Avare app with a paper sectional for back up. I do call flight service to
check MOA activity but I use My Radar and Accu weather app for expected wx
enroute. Aviation weather app for terminal info. at destination. All are
free apps.
Doran
On Aug 15, 2016 8:23 PM, "Paul Visk via KRnet"  wrote:

>
>
>
> Last weekend I had my first flight review in 24 years. My instructor was a
> friend from my EAA chapter.  He wanted me to plan a 100 mile XC.
> So I did. All on my Avare GPS app, E6B app and my weather app. I thought I
> did a good job.  Well he didn't like it.  He wanted me to do it the
> old way.  With a sectional, a plotter and a wiswheel and a phone call to
> flight service for a weather briefing.  And god forbid if
> I opened my GPS in flight.
> After he signed my log book. We talked about it. He said the most pilots
> still plan on paper and use paper sectionals in flight.
> My question to you KR pilots is how do you plan XC's? Do you use
> programs, Apps like foreflight and others or a combination of
> both.  or do you just use paper? Just curious.
>
> Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
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KR> Facet pumps in series

[Doran Jaffas]

I feel really simple here kids. The KR2 Stock retractable gear that I am
putting back together with advice from some you and local mechs has wet
wings that I dont plan on using. Instead...A gravity feed slide valve carb
with mixture control is as sophisticated as Im going to get but she will be
strictly a VFR day flyer.
 Good to read you Sid.
On Aug 14, 2016 7:42 PM, "Sid Wood via KRnet"  wrote:

> My KR-2 has a single Facet electric fuel pump in series with a mechanical
> pump on the 2180 VW.  The Facet will will free flow fuel in the forward
> direction.  The stock VW fuel pump has a shut off feature that will not
> free flow fuel if the engine is not running; the Facet cannot pump fuel
> through the non-running mechanical pump.  I put a check valve in parallel
> with the VW mechanical pump to get fuel in the system, including the
> carburetor, for starting.  The check valve also permits engine operation if
> the mechanical pump fails.  Because I requested night VFR airworthiness ,
> the FAA inspector required fuel flow measurements with each pump operating
> separately and the engine at WOT, max AOA and minimum fuel.  Each test did
> require some discrete plumping changes firewall forward.  Test fuel flows
> were 21 gallons per hour for the VW mechanical pump and 23 gallons per hour
> with the Facet. WOT and best power mixture at 13.6 AFR burns 5.3 gallons
> per hour.
> The Facet has a check valve built-in, the VW pump will not back flow and
> the extra check valve is not supposed to let fuel back flow; but after shut
> down the fuel in the system will drain back to the selected tank.  The
> whole system, including the carburetor and gascolator, drains empty back to
> the fuel tank selected in about twenty minutes.  How the carb float bowl
> and the gascolator empty is a mystery to me.  If the fuel selector valve is
> set to off, the system will retain fuel.
>
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
>
> ---
> Question
>
> Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine if the
> other
> fails. I have been trying to plumb them in parallel but its a real pain to
> get
> the tubing all bent correctly. Series would be much easier.  It looks like
> the Zenith 601 was doing it at one time.  Not sure they still are.
>
> Thanks.
> Craig
>
>
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KR> Smooth Prime problems

[Doran Jaffas]

I have the Stewart Systems DVD instruction set. I plan on using it on my
Tri Pacer in a cpl of years. School of Missionary Aviation Training at Y70
uses it exclusively. I looked at several systems and I like Stewarts the
best.
Great Luck to You!!
  Doran Jaffas


 Rob wrote:
... My 1st finish paint job was sprayed on using a "Boat"
acrylic enamel.  That didn't last. My second paint job was Stewart Systems
and it seems to be holding up much better (rolled on).

A reminder to everyone.  Stewart Systems will be doing a forum Saturday
morning at the Gathering

Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
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KR> Small Vendors and tasteless remarks

[Doran Jaffas]

Hello Jeff
I COMPLETELY agree but eho is this Steve G. that keeps going off and
how does he get shut down??
On Aug 10, 2016 5:39 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
wrote:

> Well kids, I'd suggest some restraint the keyboard.  As Marc Baca
> eloquently explained, many of these small business guys are doing what they
> do for practically nothing... or less, because they love sharing the
> knowledge they have accumulated.  It does none of us any good to denigrate
> them or their work.  FWIW, I'm glad guys like Jim Weir, Steve Glover, Marty
> Roberts, et al are around.  Otherwise I would feel an obligation to produce
> some KR parts myself, and I don't want to spend my retirement producing
> parts at a financial loss.  I'd a lot rather people like Steve, Jim, and
> Marty continue doing what they do because the love doing it.  It's a tough
> business and requires a thick skin as you don't get a lot of positive
> feedback for your efforts.  But many of us are glad you are there.
>
> -Jeff Scott
>
> ---
>
> It must be a southern California thing. : )
>
>
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KR> Fwd: Re: RST Engineering

[Doran Jaffas]

-- Forwarded message --
From: "Steve G." 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Aug 10, 2016 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: KR> RST Engineering
To: "Doran Jaffas" 
Cc:

How about kiss my ass. That's swearing enough for you? I'm pretty sick of
all you want to bees thinking that you actually know something and want
everything for free.

Steve Glover

Sent from my electronic leash.

> On Aug 10, 2016, at 13:32, Doran Jaffas via KRnet 
wrote:
>
> Cut the swearing and insults.
>> On Aug 10, 2016 3:03 PM, "Steve G. via KRnet" 
wrote:
>>
>> He's in NorCal dumb ass. Thanks for the dig.
>>
>> Steve Glover
>>
>> Sent from my electronic leash.
>>
>>>> On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:35, Paul Visk via KRnet 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It must be a southern California thing. : )
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
>>> Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Doran Jaffas via KRnet 
>>> Date: 08/10/2016  1:14 PM  (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: KRnet 
>>> Cc: Doran Jaffas 
>>> Subject: Re: KR> RST Engineering
>>>
>>> No issue and what you say makes sense.
>>> On Aug 10, 2016 2:13 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, this post should have had the subject label changed to RST
>>>> Engineering
>>>>
>>>> While I know you want to receive this stuff right away, keep in mind
you
>>>> are dealing with a small business that is a one man show, and that you
>>>> ordered just as they were ramping up for Oshkosh, then had to travel
>> from
>>>> California to Oshkosh (likely in a camper), then was at Oshkosh for at
>>>> least a week, then is traveling back home again and trying to pick up
>> the
>>>> pieces. Maybe... Just maybe, he is throwing in a few days of vacation
on
>>>> the way home from Oshkosh to try to get his head back on straight after
>> the
>>>> rush of orders taken at Oshkosh. It's not a huge surprise to me that he
>>>> hasn't replied to an email, nor is it a surprise that nothing was
>> shipped
>>>> in the last 3 weeks. Jim Weir also writes a monthly column for
>> "Kitplanes"
>>>> and probably needs to get another column out the door to meet the
>> oshkosh
>>>> show report deadline, so I don't think he has flown the coop. But I do
>>>> think he is a really busy man and you have caught him at the peak of
his
>>>> busiest time of year.
>>>>
>>>> I would guess he should be back home again this week and doing business
>>>> again. This is a one man show business that has been around for a long
>> time
>>>> and is well known in the pilot community. A little patience will
>> probably
>>>> go a long ways.
>>>>
>>>> -Jeff Scott
>>>> Los Alamos, NM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> HI I am having trouble with buying a kit from rst engineering
>>>>> paid 3 weeks ago
>>>>> sent 2 emails about when it is to arrive
>>>>> never answered my emails
>>>>> paid with paypal so did a paypal item purchased not received
>>>>> still did not get any email from them
>>>>> they are in californa as I am
>>>>> paypal said they sent an email asking about this but i have not
>> received
>>>>> the item nor have i every received any email
>>>>> makes me kinda wonder why not at least an email
>>>>> tom laudato
>>>>
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KR> RST Engineering

[Doran Jaffas]

Cut the swearing and insults.
On Aug 10, 2016 3:03 PM, "Steve G. via KRnet"  wrote:

> He's in NorCal dumb ass. Thanks for the dig.
>
> Steve Glover
>
> Sent from my electronic leash.
>
> > On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:35, Paul Visk via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > It must be a southern California thing. : )
> >
> >
> > Paul Visk Belleville IL  618 406 4705
> > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Doran Jaffas via KRnet 
> > Date: 08/10/2016  1:14 PM  (GMT-06:00)
> > To: KRnet 
> > Cc: Doran Jaffas 
> > Subject: Re: KR> RST Engineering
> >
> > No issue and what you say makes sense.
> > On Aug 10, 2016 2:13 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry, this post should have had the subject label changed to RST
> >> Engineering
> >>
> >> While I know you want to receive this stuff right away, keep in mind you
> >> are dealing with a small business that is a one man show, and that you
> >> ordered just as they were ramping up for Oshkosh, then had to travel
> from
> >> California to Oshkosh (likely in a camper), then was at Oshkosh for at
> >> least a week, then is traveling back home again and trying to pick up
> the
> >> pieces. Maybe... Just maybe, he is throwing in a few days of vacation on
> >> the way home from Oshkosh to try to get his head back on straight after
> the
> >> rush of orders taken at Oshkosh. It's not a huge surprise to me that he
> >> hasn't replied to an email, nor is it a surprise that nothing was
> shipped
> >> in the last 3 weeks. Jim Weir also writes a monthly column for
> "Kitplanes"
> >> and probably needs to get another column out the door to meet the
> oshkosh
> >> show report deadline, so I don't think he has flown the coop. But I do
> >> think he is a really busy man and you have caught him at the peak of his
> >> busiest time of year.
> >>
> >> I would guess he should be back home again this week and doing business
> >> again. This is a one man show business that has been around for a long
> time
> >> and is well known in the pilot community. A little patience will
> probably
> >> go a long ways.
> >>
> >> -Jeff Scott
> >> Los Alamos, NM
> >>
> >>
> >>> HI I am having trouble with buying a kit from rst engineering
> >>> paid 3 weeks ago
> >>> sent 2 emails about when it is to arrive
> >>> never answered my emails
> >>> paid with paypal so did a paypal item purchased not received
> >>> still did not get any email from them
> >>> they are in californa as I am
> >>> paypal said they sent an email asking about this but i have not
> received
> >>> the item nor have i every received any email
> >>> makes me kinda wonder why not at least an email
> >>> tom laudato
> >>
> >>
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KR> RST Engineering

[Doran Jaffas]

No issue and what you say makes sense.
On Aug 10, 2016 2:13 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
>
> Sorry, this post should have had the subject label changed to RST
> Engineering
>
> While I know you want to receive this stuff right away, keep in mind you
> are dealing with a small business that is a one man show, and that you
> ordered just as they were ramping up for Oshkosh, then had to travel from
> California to Oshkosh (likely in a camper), then was at Oshkosh for at
> least a week, then is traveling back home again and trying to pick up the
> pieces. Maybe... Just maybe, he is throwing in a few days of vacation on
> the way home from Oshkosh to try to get his head back on straight after the
> rush of orders taken at Oshkosh. It's not a huge surprise to me that he
> hasn't replied to an email, nor is it a surprise that nothing was shipped
> in the last 3 weeks. Jim Weir also writes a monthly column for "Kitplanes"
> and probably needs to get another column out the door to meet the oshkosh
> show report deadline, so I don't think he has flown the coop. But I do
> think he is a really busy man and you have caught him at the peak of his
> busiest time of year.
>
> I would guess he should be back home again this week and doing business
> again. This is a one man show business that has been around for a long time
> and is well known in the pilot community. A little patience will probably
> go a long ways.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
>
> > HI I am having trouble with buying a kit from rst engineering
> > paid 3 weeks ago
> > sent 2 emails about when it is to arrive
> > never answered my emails
> > paid with paypal so did a paypal item purchased not received
> > still did not get any email from them
> > they are in californa as I am
> > paypal said they sent an email asking about this but i have not received
> > the item nor have i every received any email
> > makes me kinda wonder why not at least an email
> > tom laudato
>
>
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 208

[Doran Jaffas]

That makes sense but a recording stating such when one calls would be good.
I had sort of the same issue with a gun I sent in that had me really
concerned.
Patience goes a long way but customer service stating a particular reason
for delays even on a recording does too.
On Aug 10, 2016 2:01 PM, "Jeff Scott via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
> While I know you want to receive this stuff right away, keep in mind you
> are dealing with a small business that is a one man show, and that you
> ordered just as they were ramping up for Oshkosh, then had to travel from
> California to Oshkosh (likely in a camper), then was at Oshkosh for at
> least a week, then is traveling back home again and trying to pick up the
> pieces.  Maybe... Just maybe, he is throwing in a few days of vacation on
> the way home from Oshkosh to try to get his head back on straight after the
> rush of orders taken at Oshkosh.  It's not a huge surprise to me that he
> hasn't replied to an email, nor is it a surprise that nothing was shipped
> in the last 3 weeks.  Jim Weir also writes a monthly column for "Kitplanes"
> and probably needs to get another column out the door to meet the oshkosh
> show report deadline, so I don't think he has flown the coop.  But I do
> think he is a really busy man and you have caught him at the peak of his
> busiest time of year.
>
> I would guess he should be back home again this week and doing business
> again.  This is a one man show business that has been around for a long
> time and is well known in the pilot community.  A little patience will
> probably go a long ways.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
>
> > HI I am having trouble with buying a kit from rst engineering
> > paid 3 weeks ago
> > sent 2 emails about when it is to arrive
> > never answered my emails
> > paid with paypal so did a paypal item purchased not received
> > still did not get any email from them
> > they are in californa as I am
> > paypal said they sent an email asking about this but i have not received
> > the item nor have i every received any email
> > makes me kinda wonder why not at least an email
> > tom laudato
>
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 208

[Doran Jaffas]

If you can get their phone number and call them. otherwise if you are
outside the country let me know and I will see what I can do
On Aug 10, 2016 12:14 PM, "tommylaudato--- via KRnet" 
wrote:

> HI  I am having trouble with buying a kit from rst engineering
> paid 3 weeks ago
> sent 2 emails about when it is to arrive
> never answered my emails
> paid with paypal  so did a paypal item purchased not received
> still did not get any email from them
> they are in californa as I am
> paypal said they sent an email asking about this but i have not received
> the item nor have i every received any email
> makes me kinda wonder why not at least an email
> tom laudato
>
>
> On 8/10/2016 11:00 PM, krnet-request at list.krnet.org wrote:
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>> 1.  Oshkosh 2016 Video (svd)
>> 2.  Antenna kit from RST Engineering (S)
>> 3. Re:  Antenna kit from RST Engineering (Paul Visk)
>> 4. Re:  Antenna kit from RST Engineering (s_sbal at hotmail.com)
>> 5. Re:  KR1 For Sale (Glen Wilcox)
>> 6. Re:  Antenna kit from RST Engineering (Doran Jaffas)
>> 7. Re:  KR1 For Sale (Doran Jaffas)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 11:15:36 -0700
>> From: svd 
>> To: "krnet at list.krnet.org" 
>> Subject: KR> Oshkosh 2016 Video
>> Message-ID: <7092F4FC-5994-4A9F-96E1-9939D9594BEB at yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Back now from an epic adventure out to OSH with three Young Eagles. We
>> were parked out at the north end of the North40 - Siberia! We were camped
>> just under Harrison Ford's windows at the Hilton's. This was the first time
>> I had second thoughts about camping... (Old or contrast - I'm not sure.)
>> Tried to get them to park us at B2OSH, but no joy.
>>
>> Highlights:
>> B2OSH Party Sunday night.
>> Great forums
>>- Go Bonanza Maintenance Guru Bob Ripley!
>>- Great KR Forum Mark - Thanks for showing Cedric your plane!
>> Fun Concerts
>> Star Wars introduced by Harrison Ford! (though he seemed a bit drunk)
>> Hoover Dinner!
>> The ever enchanting Seaplane Base
>>   - Thanks to Mark Hangen for giving the kids a float experience!
>> Beautiful Vintage and Classics
>> Delightful Ultralights
>> Para Gliders!
>> And as always - planes planes planes!
>>
>> This was my 5th flight out to OSH - first time was 1987. I love Oshkosh
>> (still have a hard time calling it Airventure), but need at least a 3 year
>> break between visits. Advice: Go! Lots of folks I talk to are put off by
>> the thought of high traffic. The Ripon-Fisk arrival is an amazing system
>> that is easy and works! Airventure is unlike any other aviation event, or
>> maybe its like all of them combined.
>>
>> After Airventure I dropped the gals off at the EAA Air Academy camp, and
>> headed up to Canada to visit family with my son.
>>
>> Have to appreciate our traveling machines!
>>
>> Check out our video:
>> http://youtu.be/uHGx25FIYDg <http://youtu.be/uHGx25FIYDg>
>>
>> Don't forget to select full HD resolution.
>>
>> (I snuck pictures of my planes (Cessna 140  and Osprey 2 amphib) from
>> pervious years into the video.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Owen Hughes
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 04:25:08 -0400
>> From: S 
>> To: "krnet at list.krnet.org" 
>> Subject: KR> Antenna kit from RST Engineering
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> KRNetters,
>>
>> Is there anybody in the lower 48 intending to install a foil antenna
>> under some fiberglass surface? I tried to order a kit from RST Engineering
>> (priced $29) but got rejected as non-US Pay

KR> KR1 For Sale

[Doran Jaffas]

Do you have a propeller?
  D. Jaffas   vintageaircraftowner at gmail.com
 Central Lower Mich.
On Aug 10, 2016 8:52 AM, "Glen Wilcox via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
> On Craigslist in Los Angeles, CA ? lots of photos on Craigslist.
>
> Search ventura(dot)craigslist(dot)org for KR-1
>
> and Barnstormers:
>
>  KR-1 PROJECT ? $950 ? FOR SALE ? Includes the canoe, rudder, elevator,
> spars, retract landing gear, foam, cloth, tires & brakes, etc. ? Contact
> Clinton D. Seal, Owner - located Camarillo, CA USA ?
>
> Sent again because it's not showing up on the archive. Don't know why.
>
>
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KR> Antenna kit from RST Engineering

[Doran Jaffas]

I had no intention of doing so but if no one else comes to your rescue give
me a shout and maybe I can order it for you on Friday
On Aug 10, 2016 4:25 AM, "S via KRnet"  wrote:

> KRNetters,
>
> Is there anybody in the lower 48 intending to install a foil antenna under
> some fiberglass surface? I tried to order a kit from RST Engineering
> (priced $29) but got rejected as non-US PayPal account... This kit is good
> for 6 antennas and we may share it with a fellow builder, in case somebody
> is interested.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Stefan Balatchev
> Ottawa, ON, Canada
> s_sbal "at" hotmail.com
>
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KR> TRIGEAR KR2

[Doran Jaffas]

Id kind of like to know that too.
On Aug 7, 2016 3:31 PM, "ol' weirdo via KRnet"  wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> You had for sale ,or sold a KR2 that was described as having a retractable
> trigear undercarriage that was being converted to a taildrager. I wonder if
> you could describe how the trigear retract was done?
> Thanks.
>
> BillWeir
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KR> Fwd: KR2 for sale

[Doran Jaffas]

Thanks for the reply. 8-9 k for just an airframe is a bit steep. I have a
complete airframe and am currently looking for a VW engine mount.
Complete KR2's can be had for 10k and really nice ones for 13k. Depending
on ones ability to build their own engine it can cost from a cpl grand to
5k or better so 8-9 for the frame is a bit much.
You are a good man for what you are doing and the KR is a nice aircraft if
constructed and maintained well.
My airframe was built in 1983 and looks so far to be in airworthy condition
after some superficial repairs.
  Unfortunately completed airframes don't go for as much as a raw kit.
  Good Luck to You.
On Aug 6, 2016 2:35 PM, "Skyflyr001--- via KRnet" 
wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to help the family of my late friend and KR2 owner sell his
> airplane.  Due to his health issues he had not flown this aircraft in
> about  10
> years.  If you'll google KR@ Dumbo you'll find a link to a good article
> about the original build of this airplane.
>
> Here's what i've sent a couple of others who are interested in this
> airplane.  It's a complete airplane but since it hasn't flown in awhile I'd
> consider it a project.
>
> My friend who owned this aircraft passed away and I'm helping them to  sell
>
> it.  After looking through the very detailed records I can  pass along the
> following information
>
> KR2 serial number  7616.  Completed Feb, 1, 1991.  Registered as  N90JC
> although  it looks like the registration expired in 2010 after new
> legislation
> required re-registration.
>
> Total time 193.0.  Last flown appears  to be 3-21-1997.
>
> Engine is a 2100 VW and it appears to produce  75hp.
>
> Empty weight is 608#
> Max GW is 1100#
> Cruise is 155mph  (5000msl  @2850 rpm on 3.6 gph.)
>
> fuel capacity is 13.5 gal with 12.5  useable.
>
> The aircraft was purchased from the builder for $12,500 in  April  1993.
>
>
> The airplane has always been hangared.  It is located at KPMU, Panola
> county airport, in Batesville MS.  It's about 50 miles south of Memphis,
> TN.
>
> The family doesn't have a price in mind as they don't really know how to
> value it but they are interested in moving it.  I'm not personally
> knowledgeable about this series of homebuilts but I would guess that
> somewhere
> around 8-9K would be readily accepted.  Of course after inspecting the
> aircraft
> you can be as aggressive as you'd like in an offer.
>
>
>
> I'm sure a reasonable offer will get you a nice KR2  See the  link  below.
>
>
>
> _DAVID  E. CARROLL, January 1993_
> (http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/sportaviation/Kr93-1.HTM)
>
> If you have any questions please feel free to call me.
>
>
>
>
> Captain Jim  Gehringer
> FedEx MD-11 MEM
> Check Airman / Instructor Pilot
> ALPA  FOQA
> 901-493-2540
>
>
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 121

[Doran Jaffas via KRnet]

Larry,Mark and others.
I sent in a request to not be notified from this site anymore so I
won't waste anymore of your bandwidth? C'Mon kids. Your terse  response
just made the points made. Good luck. Fly for the joy and gift that it is.
Selfworth really has no part of your experience.
   I have met a couple of good friends and we all have experience we
bounce off each other with good friendships be made stronger and knowledge
being gained without the arrogance that appears.
  When technical exceeds fun and ensuring the excitement then it has
outlived its worth.
  I am better qualified in more types than many but I choose to believe
in the magic of flight and the joy of sharing the experience with other's.
 Best regards to all flying kids.no matter what your
stage or station in life.
   Doran
   .kr2owner at gmail.com
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>1. Re:  Fw: Re: Propellers (Jeff Scott via KRnet)
>2.  Larry Flesner please contact me (Ronald Wright via KRnet)
>3. Re:  Drag Whoa! (Doran Jaffas via KRnet)
>4. Re:  Drag Whoa! (Carl Dow via KRnet)
>5. Re:  Drag (Carl Dow via KRnet)
>6.  Drag Whoa! (via KRnet)
>7. Re:  Drag (via KRnet)
>8. Re:  Drag Whoa! (ppaulvsk at aol.comviaKRnet)
>9. Re:  Drag Whoa! (Mark Langford via KRnet)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 13:10:02 -0400
> From: Jeff Scott via KRnet 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Subject: Re: KR> Fw: Re: Propellers
> Message-ID: <20140510171002.12310 at gmx.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Jeff L.
>
> Yes, I think we are dancing around the same elephant. ?When I say I
> respectfuly disagree, I mean exactly that as I know you are really into
> aircraft performance and measurement with a lot of first hand knowledge. ?I
> have a lot of respect for your work.
>
> My only point was that as a general statement, a longer prop will usually
> contribute significantly to both take off and initial climb. ?As you
> stated, aircraft drag becomes the more predominant factor with speed as
> more drag is generated with more speed. ?Prop length becomes much less of a
> factor in a small slick aircraft, especially at speed. ?In fact, for high
> cruise performance, too long of a prop becomes a real detriment. ?But, if
> you calculate your prop tip speed and find that it is running down in the
> .6 - .7 mach area, you can usually improve your take off, climb and cruise
> performance with a bit longer of a prop. ?If your prop tips are making
> close to .7 mach static, a longer prop is likely to help with take off and
> initial climb, but may hinder cruise. ?If you're making .8 mach or more
> with your prop tips at cruise, then chances are you'll probably increase
> your speed by going to a shorter prop. ?When calculating the mach number of
> the prop tip, you have to factor the aircraft speed into the calculation.
> ?.75 mach static may be over .8 mach at high cruise. ?For prop tuning, a
> faster plane may require a slightly shorter prop.
>
> Wish I could tell you the measurements from the prop I had on the VW
> powered Avid Flyer, but that's been 15 years ago and all that information
> was long ago lost. ?Additionally, since this was all done at over 7000'
> altitude, the numbers probably would not be useful for near to sea level
> operations.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: JL
> > Sent: 05/09/14 11:12 PM
> > To: Jeff Scott, KRnet
> > Subject: Re: KR> Fw: Re: Propellers
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Since I don't disagree with almost everything you posted, I suspect we
> are commenting about the same elephant, but from different ends ; )
> >
> > Sounds like you found the minimum diameter prop for your airplane. May I
> ask what that prop was and at what rpm you saw no further gains?
> >
> > The only thing I would not agree with is the lumping of static thrust,
> takeoff roll and rate of climb together. I tend to view them as three
> 

KR> Propellers

[Doran Jaffas via KRnet]

Just curious if anyone has run a 50 inch propeller. I have a 52 by 47 and
am thinking of trimming it down to 50 inches the add a couple of hundred
rpm.
 Doran Jaffas
  kr2owner at gmail.com
N186RC

KR> Compression

[Doran Jaffas via KRnet]

Hello folks, I need to call Great Plains and get the manual sent to me but
in the meantime does anybody know if the recommended compression for the
2180 conversion?
   Doran
N186RC

KR> progress

[Doran Jaffas]

 N186RC is scheduled for its condition inspection May 9.
 Might move it up.
  The cowling I purchased from Sid is finished except for minor
tweeking. It is in primer and could be flown. I elected to construct my
cooling boxes and finished installing them on Saturday.
  Needless to say the cowling is not as pretty as Sids new one but it
is not bad considering the modifying it went  through .
  I am scheduled for some refresher tailwheel time as well.
  Many thanks to Sid in getting his old cowling to me!

  ps. Does anyone know Robert Clark (the original builder of N186RC)?

  Doran

KR> Display wash out

[Doran Jaffas]

 I purchased the Samsung Tab 3  7" model and was pleasantly surprised
at how visable it is above the clouds at fl22.
Just a heads up.

KR> Tail wheel assy.

[Doran Jaffas]

Wondering if anybody could send me some pictures of their tail wheel
assembly?
   I would like to change mine over to a locking type.
Thx
 Doran

KR> Red Permatex

[Doran Jaffas]

 wondering if anybody out there knows anything that disolves
l red. Permatex ? I'm redoing my engine compartment and it seems the
previous builder used a lot of it!
   Thx.
Doran
N186RC

KR> Tablet GPS

[Doran Jaffas]

   I just got back from flying copilot from Sparta Michigan down to
Naples Florida with a stop in Athens Georgia and back to Sparta today,
Friday. On the way back I fired up the AVARE flight application and it
worked beautifully! I forget who originally told me about it but thank you!
It measures ground speed , the altitude , the ground track and heading
bearings, estimated time in route we're all spot on!

KR> I PAD / TABLET GPS UPDATE

[Doran Jaffas]

 Just a short info here for anyone who might be interested.
 Maybe all of you know this but it was news to me but then again I am
technically challenged!
 After purchasing my samsung tab 3 and downloading the avare navigation
application I discovered that you do not need a wifi connection to operate
the application. Evidently the GPS chipset works as its own and therefore
you will not use up any data well using this application.
 So far I really like this particular app although I'm sure there are
other really good ones out there.
  Doran
   N186RC

KR> Rainbows

[Doran Jaffas]

I wasn't going to post this this way but.
 I have seen what Brian has seen. I was flying a Seneca coming home
from Minnesota at around 3500msl. Not high but high enough on an IFR Flight
plan for the area.
  Talking the tech side of the wx would take the wonder out if it and
yes...I can pass any drug test anywhere anytime.

  Doran
  N186RC
   IFR
Complex
  Taildragger
 High Performance
   Experienced Builder
Test Pilot of several homebuilts as well as
modified factory aircraft.
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>1.  Service ceilving (Phillip Hill)
>2. Re:  Service ceiling (Jeff Scott)
>3. Re:  Service ceilving (Jeff York)
>4. Re:  Service ceilving (Robert7721)
>    5. Re:  Service ceiling (Mark Langford)
>6.  Why we fly (Doran Jaffas)
>7. Re:  Service ceilving (Roger Bulla)
>8. Re:  Service ceiling (Mark Langford)
>9. Re:  Service ceilving (m.ladigo at cox.net)
>   10. Re:  Service ceilving (Roger Bulla)
>   11. Re:  Service ceiling (Phillip Hill)
>   12.  Henni's project (Hennie van Rooyen [HQP Alloystream])
>   13. Re:  Why we fly/rainbows (brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com)
>   14. Re:  Why we fly/rainbows (Larry Flesner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 15:27:51 -0500
> From: Phillip Hill 
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: KR> Service ceilving
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> I'd like to know what the typical service ceiling is for a normally
> aspirated KR2.  Anyone want to share?
>
> Phill
> Collinsville, IL
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 17:27:43 -0400
> From: "Jeff Scott" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Subject: Re: KR> Service ceiling
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I stopped climbing at 18,000' to stay out of IFR airspace when I was climb
> testing the plane in 2009.
>
> Actual service ceiling on my KR seems to be around 15,000', although
> without O2 on board, I generally stay away from those kinds of altitudes
> anymore.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Phillip Hill
> > Sent: 03/22/14 02:27 PM
> > To: KRnet
> > Subject: KR> Service ceiling
> >
> > I'd like to know what the typical service ceiling is for a normally
> > aspirated KR2. Anyone want to share?
> >
> > Phill
> > Collinsville, IL
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 14:46:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jeff York 
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: Re: KR> Service ceilving
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>
> I believe it would depend on a few factors such as weight, engine and such
> but as I recall its generally known to be about 16,000 feet. However, I
> think you need to consider oxygen needs above 10,000 or so anyway. I have
> always tried to stay a bit on the safe side of a service ceiling while
> flying a private plane and my KR and keep well below the 16,000 range. Now
> when I have been in the Citation or King Air, that's another story.
>
> But, if you go with supplemental oxygen you may need to consider the added
> weight even though you can get some pretty light supplemental systems.
>
> Jeff York
> KR2
> 2010 KR Nationals Peoples Choice, Best Interior, Best Instrument
> 2011 Airfest Best Experimenta

KR> Why we fly

[Doran Jaffas]

I hope I am doing this correctly.
  There is alot of tech talk on here and I learn everytime and I am an
experienced builder. I tend to get involved with the mechanics of our
aircraft and flying but today I found myself remembering why I fell in love
with flying
 Here are a cpl of my thoughts and I would like to read yours if you
are willing. Contact me at kr2owner at gmail.com

 Seeing rainbows from above.
  Sharing flying stories.
The sigh of a perfect landing on a manicured grass runway.
   The smiles of a first time passenger.
  The quiet solitude of an early morning preflight.
 Engine start up.
The way my everyday world looks from a few hundred feet
up.

  Your reasons?

Doran
N186RC

KR> Knowledge Gained

[Doran Jaffas]

Hello Everyone
   I hope I'm not blasting this out with a bunch of other link the
messages on this site.
   I have set of myself that if a computer was a wooden wheel I still
could not find my way around it! Well, I did!
   Thanks to some information given to me by individuals on this
website I finally purchased a tablet that works with the flight software I
have been trying to download! It is a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 normally $300.00
new, used ones can be had for around a hundred and seventy five dollars.
   I purchased a really nice used one for my son in law so I had a
chance to try it out first but all of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 is no matter
what size have the GPS chip in it. And I am really impressed with their
functional quality!
 Anyway, N186RC is finally getting some progress made on it regarding
the cowling . The fitting is done and now some what I call minor finishing
will complete it. After that change of the trim colors and some additional
trim color is well possibly a raising of the canopy and the aircraft should
be flying again! All this time over this winter for the sake of vanity! But
it will look good, not a trophy winner but still nice.
   Thank you for the advice I have gotten so far and I will continue to
monitor this site for some time.
 Doran
   N186RC

KR> THANK YOU

[Doran Jaffas]

THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU THAT GAVE ME YOUR ADVICE. I ORDERED A GPS PLUG IN
RECIEVER TO GO WITH MY GOOGLE ANDROID TABLET. I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW THIS
WORKS OUT.
 Doran
 N186RC

KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 66

[Doran Jaffas]

My texting into a rut made by a truck on the runway and put my airplane on
its nose and shattered my 5248. I would love to have another one and I am
willing to pay something for it including shipping please. If you still
have it let me know! My phone number is 616. 350. 1463 and I'm located in
central Lower Michigan. Again I'm willing to pay something for it. I'm just
trying to get an edge on someone. (SOUNDS GREEDY) Fortunately my motor was
not damaged. Any event very generous offer!
Doran
 616.350.1463
   N186RC

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>1. Re:  anybody_tried_this_for_high_altitude_flying?_Look
>   _at_this_on_eBay (Randall Smith)
>2. Re:  anybody_tried_this_for_high_altitude_flying?_Look
>   _at_this_on_eBay (peter)
>3.  Building (smwood)
>4. Re:  anybody_tried_this_for_high_altitude_flying?_Look
>   _at_this_on_eBay (Kolbj?rn Seth)
>5.  Prop available (W Jennings)
>6. Re:  Prop available (Bob)
>7. Re:  Prop available (Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM)
>8.  Senate Bill (Eric James Pitts)
>9. Re:  Prop available (Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM)
>   10. Re:  Prop available (David Peterson)
>   11.  Kr2-egb "ZONDA", Gran Champions EAA 2014 and  Champion Plans
>   Built, - 33? Conventions in fly, EAA Argentina, Chapter 722
>   (Eduardo Barros)
>   12. Re:  Kr2-egb "ZONDA", Gran Champions EAA 2014 and  Champion
>   Plans Built, - 33? Conventions in fly, EAA Argentina, Chapter 722
>   (Jeff Scott)
>   13. Re:  Kr2-egb "ZONDA", Gran Champions EAA 2014 and  Champion
>   Plans Built, - 33? Conventions in fly, EAA Argentina, Chapter 722
>   (Teate, Stephen)
>   14. Re:  Kr2-egb "ZONDA", Gran Champions EAA 2014 and  Champion
>   Plans Built, - 33? Conventions in fly, EAA Argentina, Chapter 722
>   (Dene)
>   15. Re:  Kr2-egb "ZONDA", Gran Champions EAA 2014 and  Champion
>   Plans Built, - 33? Conventions in fly, EAA Argentina, Chapter 722
>   (Jeff Scott)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:14:49 -0500
> From: Randall Smith 
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: Re: KR> anybody_tried_this_for_high_altitude_flying?_Look
> _at_this_on_eBay
> Message-ID: <88C80BBF-F642-48EA-A989-96D42048C63F at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
>
> Remember those units put out a lot of heat.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 11, 2014, at 8:38 AM,  wrote:
> >
> > Did a little more research and found a good thread on the Vans site with
> > a link for a very expensive unit designed for small aircraft.
> >
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=79120=oxygen+concentrator
> >  I have not looked at all the specs, but from what I have seen I would
> > guess that the smaller medical units will not provide enough oxygen at
> > higher altitudes.  Might be OK if you just like to suck oxygen at
> > 10,000' but maybe not at 15,000.  Been looking for a low cost pulse
> > demand regulator myself lately.  I fly high a lot and just came back
> > from Nashville this weekend at 11,500 and had to go to 13,500 for a bit
> > to get over a bad haze layer while crossing a front.
> >
> >
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: KR> anybody_tried_this_for_high_altitude_flying?_Look
> > _at_this_on_eBay
> > From: 
> > Date: Tue, March 11, 2014 6:21 am
> > To: "KRnet" 
> >
> > I have never heard of anyone using an oxygen concentrator for flight
> > before. I don't know why. I did find this interesting article on Wiki
> > about them and it mentions in flight use. Not sure what flow rate you
> > would need at the altitudes we typically fly at or what can be provided
> > by the lower cost portable units.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_concentrator
> >
> >
> >
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: KR> anybody tried this for high altitude flying? Look at this
> > on eBay
> > From: Rogelio Serrano 
> > Date: Tue, March 11, 2014 5:10 am
> > To: KRnet 
> >
> > Check out this item I found on eBay:
> >
> > End time: 16 Mar 2014 18:51:08
> >
> > Item:
> > RESPIRONICS
> > EVERGO<
> http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view=191095399890>PORTABLE
> > OXYGEN
> > CONCENTRATOR
> >
> > URL: 

KR> Help...techno. illiterate

[Doran Jaffas]

Hello Everyone
  I recently purchased a Google Next book and was told it has
navigation capability. The store does not seem to know how to turn on the
"navigation" mode.  I subscribe to a mobile hotspot from straight talk' my
location services are on as well but when I go to the maps section of
fltplan it comes up " no GPS signal".
 I bought a Google android tablet as well. Same story on both. I also
installed the " avaero"  program and again " no joy" . They both work on my
Straight Talk phone.
  Do I need to buy an external GPS for the tablet?
   I figured SOMEONE ON THIS SITE WILL KNOWPLEASE

  Technology stupid,
Doran
N186RC

KR> Carbs

[Doran Jaffas]

I have a Posa Super Carb with mixture and heat and it works well if you can
your thinking past the float bowl issue. NO. SMOKING ANYWHERE NEAR THE
AIRPLANE!!
   Doran
   N186RC

KR> Conversations!

[Doran Jaffas]

  Hey everybody, I did not know I would start so many conversations
about different navigation apps! This is been really great and I have
learned a lot considering I'm kind of an antique myself!  I did download
the avare app. And it is great! I'm going to look at getting a phone with a
bigger screen just for that app! It has everything you need and more for
basic VFR and it is free!
Doran
 N186RC

KR> Thanks

[Doran Jaffas]

Thanks for the responses gentleman! Gave me something to think about!
Weather is going to get warm and I want to start flying!
 Doran
 N186RC
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>1.  Looking for? (Doran Jaffas)
>2.  > Looking for GPS (Larry Flesner)
>3. Re:  > Looking for GPS (Dj Merrill)
>4.  Looking for GPS (Dan Heath)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 02:15:50 -0800
> From: Doran Jaffas 
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Looking for?
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> Hello everyone, not trying to sound cheap ear but I'm wondering if someone
> out there in the United States as a GPS navigation then they might want to
> get rid of because they're upgrading? I'm not looking for anything really
> fancy but something that needs to be updated I can get that done. The
> aircraft  will be primarily used in the state of Michigan with occasional
> for rays and two other states. Thank you! By the way, I am more than happy
> to pay a fair price and shipping.
>  Doran
>   N186RC
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 08:49:58 -0600
> From: Larry Flesner 
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: KR> > Looking for GPS
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> At 04:15 AM 2/22/2014, you wrote:
> >I'm wondering if someone
> >out there in the United States as a GPS navigation then they might want to
> >get rid of because they're upgrading
> +++
>
> Check out any offers carefully.  Not all "used" GPS units are
> supported.  Lowerance discontinued their support several years ago.
>
> With everyone and their brother owning an ipad or tablet now days, I
> think the best deal going on aviation data base units is the IFLY
> deal for ipads.  $69 dollars a year for a VFR subscription with
> unlimited updates, software and aviation data
> base.  http://www.iflygps.com/  As far as I'm concerned, they are the
> industry standard in our price range.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 10:35:27 -0500
> From: Dj Merrill 
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: Re: KR> > Looking for GPS
> Message-ID: <5308C3BF.1080907 at deej.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 2/22/2014 9:49 AM, Larry Flesner wrote:
> > With everyone and their brother owning an ipad or tablet now days, I
> > think the best deal going on aviation data base units is the IFLY deal
> > for ipads.  $69 dollars a year for a VFR subscription with unlimited
> > updates, software and aviation data base.
>
> I second the recommendation for the iPad.  You can find used ones under
> $200. I like WingX which is only a bit more expensive than IFLY, and
> there are others such as Foreflight to consider as well. Any of them
> will give you a lot more functionality than a used GPS.
>
> If that is still outside the price range, you can buy a new Android
> tablet for cheaper.  Something like the Asus HD 7 runs about $150, and
> I've seen it on sale for $129.   You can probably find used ones for less.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps=asus%20hd%207=asus+hd+%2Caps=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aasus%20hd%207
>
>
> There are several free moving map aviation apps for Android.
>
> Avare looks like a good one.  I haven't flown with it, but have tried it
> on the ground:
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ds.avare=en
>
>
> Here are some others to consider:
>
>
> https://play.google.com/store/search?q=free%20moving-map%20aviation=apps=en
>
> -Dj
>
> --
> Dj Merrill - N1JOV - VP EAA Chapter 87
> Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
> Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/

KR> A.O.A

[Doran Jaffas]

Thanks for the comments on angle of attack. You folks guessed at what I was
getting at. I meant with the airplane on the ground and 3. config. My angle
of attack is between 10 and 12 degrees for better visibility over the nose.
Thank you! Sounds like I'm in the ballpark.
  Doran
   N186RC

KR> Angle of attack

[Doran Jaffas]

 in the three point Landing configuration is anyone have any knowledge
of the optimum angle of attack for the KR two standard?
  Doran
   N186RC

KR> The other site

[Doran Jaffas]

I appreciate the gentlemen's response to my problems with Yahoo. Sounds
like it's not worth hassling with. Long time ago they locked me out just
thought I would try it again for the sake of the other gentleman's site. To
bad they are so hard to work . Again thank you for making me feel less like
neophyte
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>2. Re:  KRnet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 35 (Douglas Cooke)
>3. Re:  KRnet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 35 (Phillip Hill)
>4. Re:  KRnet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 35 (Miles Humphrey)
>5.  Parabeam 3D fabric (brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com)
>6. Re:  KRnet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 35 (Miles Humphrey)
>7.  belly board flying characteristics? (Mark Langford)
>8.  belly board flying characteristics? (Larry Flesner)
>9. Re:  Parabeam 3D fabric (Mark Langford)
>   10. Re:  belly board flying characteristics? (Nerobro)
>   11.  Other KR SITE (Doran Jaffas)
>   12. Re:  belly board flying characteristics? (Dan Heath)
>   13. Re:  belly board flying characteristics? (Mark Jones)
>   14. Re:  belly board flying characteristics? (Larry Flesner)
>   15. Re:  Parabeam 3D fabric (brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com)
>   16. Re:  belly board flying characteristics? (Roger Bulla)
>   17. Re:  Other KR SITE (Wayne Tokarz)
>   18. Re:  Parabeam 3D fabric (Tinyauto at aol.com)
>   19. Re:  Parabeam 3D fabric (Tinyauto at aol.com)
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> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:14:11 -0800
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> Some new wingskins just popped up on eBay.
>
> Mike
> KSEE
>
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:50:46 -0500
> From: Douglas Cooke 
> To: "krnet at list.krnet.org" 
> Subject: Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 35
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>
> Maybe I'm missing something, but why not a mechanical pump with a parallel
> bypass containing a one way valve the electric pump located upstream from
> both the
> mechanical pump and valve?
> That way the electric just bypasses the mechanical pump and the mechanical
> pump
> won't pump back to the tank(s).
>
>  "I did a little checking and you can't push fuel through the VW
> mechanical pump
> so a backup system would entail, at minimum, a couple check valves and
> an electric pump...a bit more complicated that I care to make it."
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:42:01 -0600
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KR> Other KR SITE

[Doran Jaffas]

Maybe I am too technically challenged... But I want to the other site to
try to sign up required Yahoo address. I tried to set up an email and I get
to the create an account part and nothing happens. The only thing a
question passwords keep coming up red but tried several times no luck.
Thought it might be interesting getting a couple of different websites and
share information crossline. Anyway guys and gals all is good this website!

KR> Sport Pilot Requirements

[Doran Jaffas]

  There has been alot of talk about aircraft requirements but there are
also pilot requirements as well as liberties regarding LSA rules.
 Though I am a medicaled licensed pilot , during my recent flight
review my examiner and I really took the regs apart on this subject.  There
are "additional" pilot training clauses to allow for airspace use, aircraft
speed etc
   I would be interested in other takes on this topic on this site or my
personal gmail account.
 Doran
 N186RC
 kr2owner at gmail.com

KR> Great Dialog

[Doran Jaffas]

 Some great comments on stall/ spin recovery. Yes ...I did mean wings
level with rudder. OOPS!
 As far as altitudes go I just meant I felt awfully small with an 18 ft
span at that height. You know us "flat landers'!
20 ' and inches ain' much different though I do agree in MOST cases
altitude is your friend though during a cockpit firr in a Cessna I was glad
I was closer to terra firma.
 I usually respond off site but once in a whileby the way good to
hear from you Dan. I am hoping to fly 86 RC to the gathering but if
notcomnercial jet here we come!

KR> Cowling, altitudes, stall spin

[Doran Jaffas]

Hello All,
Just a quick twi cents worth.
My cowl installation (picked up from Sid) is coming along slow but
sure. Modifying one to fit is probably almost as much work as making a new
one but still very satisfying and much better looking than my original
Cowl. Thanks Sid!
 N186 RC was first flown back in 1993 and I purchased it in September
of 2013 the third owner of it! Some cosmetic as well is modifying to fit me
better changes are being done in my two stall garage this winter. I will be
raising the canopy an inch and a half as well as changing the trim color
and adding some extra stripes for better visibility by people on the ground
as well as in the air
 On that note it seems that some of you are flying at altitudes that
some of the bigger boys fly at. I remember with my other experimental
airplane at 5500 feet I felt awfully small so I stayed at altitudes at 3500
feet or less because of my model size airplane! Even in the Cherokee Arrow
or going over Lake Michigan I usually stay to 7500 feet or less. You guys
have a lot of guts!
On the stall spin note... There are airplanes with  different flying
characteristics... Larry's notwithstanding... I tend to agree with the
other rwriter's statement about please use the rudder For stall recovery. I
would hate to see someone who has an airplane with conventional flight
characteristics try to recover using aileron only in a stall as in most
cases that is an invitation for at the very least an unfortunate incident!
And at the very worst... Stall recovery has been the same with aircraft
from the very smallest to the very largest of airplanes in the conventional
sense! Very few people are qualified to test stall recoveries using
different techniques and even fewer are qualified to do this in
unconventional aircraft. Let us be conservative about what we do and
hopefully what we write and live long enough to pass on that wisdom to
others:
Doran
 N 186 RC
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Today's Topics:

   1.  WOT operation (laser147 at juno.com)
   2.  Peak efficiency (Dan Calvert)
   3.  WOT & prop efficiency (laser147 at juno.com)
   4. Re:  stalls (Virgil N.Salisbury)
   5.  Missing Post Found (laser147 at juno.com)
   6. Re:  now WOT (brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com)
   7. Re:  now WOT (Jeff Scott)
   8. Re:  now WOT (brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com)


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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:13:48 -0800
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At altitudes above 7.5 I adjust my percentage of power with altitude, not
with throttle.  I thought that's what everybody did.   I'm normally
flying at around 55% or less with WOT at the cruise altitudes I use.

I'll now shut up on the subject.  Here's an article by Mike Busch that
explains all this a lot better than anything further I might have to say.

http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201210#pg30

Mike
KSEE


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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:23:04 -0800
From: Dan Calvert 
To: KRnet 
Subject: KR> Peak efficiency
Message-ID:

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What kind off maximum efficiency numbers are you guys getting?  At what
speed and with what engine setup?

I am in negotiations on a partially built kit with a rebuilt 1600 vw
motor.  I will probably enlarge displacement on it, but want to see if a
certain combo gives better economy than others in actual real world
numbers.  I have read that peak efficiency is usually near peak climb
speed, which is probably slower than most kr pilots zip around.  It may be
hard to get numbers unless there is another efficiency enthusiast like
myself.

I will deffinately do some experimentation with my own plane but since I am
just starting to build who knows when that will be...
On Jan 26, 2014 5:32 PM, "Mark Langford"  wrote:

> In the "tired of making corrections for one day" category, 3050 rpms would
> be in the low 80's for percent power of my normal cruise speed.
>
> 

KR> Wood surfaces

[Doran Jaffas]

Gentlemen and ladies, though I would consider myself not well versed in
fiberglass laminating I do consider myself as better than average in would
working and finishing using various types of glue in various kinds of wood
together.
 Weather hand carving a propeller using two different kinds of wood for
looks as well as to ensure uniformity of the propeller itself or using one
kind of wood in the construction of an airframe, the basic principle of
gluing weather using resourcinol, t-88 or any other type of bonding agent
is to make sure the joints are as precise as possible and the wood is as
clean as possible end grain or sides grain included! Some epoxies  have a
filling it capability. Resorcinol does not! And is not widely used anymore
except my us old folks! It is not rocket science. Just clean the sides to
be glued thoroughly and get is uniform of pressure as possible on the glue
joints and let set for the required amount of time! It doesn't matter if
you are gluing a wing or a gusset the principles remain the same. Forgive
me for stating the obvious here I don't mean to sound arrogant!

KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 14

[Doran Jaffas]

That somebody write me an email about what I meant My Ride bearing. Good
old voice text, it was supposed to say filing down the piston skirt by the
rod bearing Journal so it is flush with the rod bearing journal on the
piston itself. On engines with a stroker piston assembly is in matching
cylinders the piston skirt but sometimes hit the crankshaft in about three
to four thousands. Of material had to be filed of the Pistons to prevent
cocking sideways in the cylinder breaking a compression ring.
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>2.  Dragonfly Canopy where to get one? (Global Solutions)
>3. Re:  Dragonfly Canopy where to get one? (Dene)
>4. Re:  Dragonfly Canopy where to get one? (Dan Heath)
>5. Re:  Dragonfly Canopy where to get one? (Edward Spyker)
>6. Re:  Dragonfly Canopy where to get one? (Christopher Pryce)
>7. Re:  Dragonfly Canopy where to get one? (stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:45:00 -0800
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> The different experimental airplane I lost a cylinder a couple of different
> times due to the piston skirt banging on the crankshaft unknown to me I was
> supposed to have filed the piston skirt down to the ride bearing sleeve.
> Only about three thousandths but it was enough! Near plans claim I'll want
> from a thousand feet per minute down to 500 feet per minute but was not
> really a worry. This was on a Volkswagen 2180.
>  The old Volkswagen might have its faults but it is a very predictable
> motor and I trust it more than I do some aircraft engines! Good day all and
> keep firing on all cylinders the ones in your brain and the ones in the
> airplane!
> Doran Jaffas
>  N186RC
>Central Lower Mich.
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 02:42:36 -0500
> From: Global Solutions 
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: KR> Dragonfly Canopy where to get one?
> Message-ID: <52D4EA6C.2050709 at kos.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I was reading Marks website and tried to follow the link for Slipstream
> Industries <http://www.slipstreamind.com/>But they don't list Dragonfly
> canopies anymore and the site says that the  New owner is -
> www.dart-industries.com. <http://www.dart-industries.com>
>
> However they too apear to be out of business. Therefore where can I get
> a Dragonfly Canopy like the one on Mark Lamgford's plane?
>
>
> Thanks
> Stan
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:05:59 +0200
> From: "Dene" 
> To: "'KRnet'" 
> Subject: Re: KR> Dragonfly Canopy where to get one?
> Message-ID: <005601cf10ff$7656d220$63047660$@co.za>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi Stan
> Dart industries is a South African company and is/was situated in Natal.
> They apparently bought the rights to the dragonfly design a number of years
> ago.
> I have one of their dragonfly canopies and to tell you the truth, I was
> disappointed in it. It is not a bubble like the original RR canopy but is
> definitely not the same as what ML and others have. Their plug was shaped
> by
> a local dragonfly builder.
>
> I can send you a pic of mine if you like.
>
> Regards
> Dene Collett
> Avlec Projects cc
> Builders of award winning aircraft
> tel:27419560048
> cell: 27845805003
> Port Elizabeth
> South Africa
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Global
> Solutions
> Sent: 14 January, 2014 9:43 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Dragonfly Canopy where to get one?
>
> I was reading Marks website and tried to follow the link for Slipstream
> Industries
>
&g

KR> Progress//older KR 2

[Doran Jaffas]

 Not sure is this is a subject of interest any of you as my aircraft
has been flying with two previous owners for quite some time.
 N186 RC is a standard KR 2 that has been flying since 1993.
 It is in my garage with the wings of. I have cleaned up the stub wings
at the mounting area,  have re-arced the tailspring and reinstalled it. I
also have plans to raise the canopy an inch and a half to 2 inches for more
head room and am currently in the process of retrofitting a different
cowling.
 Possibly will convert it to a tri-gear but that being the operation at
it is remains to be seen.
I also plan to add a belly flap.
 This also gives me the opportunity to thoroughly go over the airplane.
  I would appreciate hearing from those of you that have older aircraft
and what type of maintenance issues especially regarding the fiberglass
that you may have run into. My airplane much to my satisfaction seems to
have been very well built and maintained. Thank you
  Doran

KR> Prop clearance

[Doran Jaffas]

   Alot of passionate responses here.
I did the same thing Tony did. Both on my Sonerai II and my KR 2.
In both cases I felt the same as he did.
 There is alot of techno talk out there and some for good reason but I
urge you to be careful. Some of that and how it is presented can have the
effect of causing a new or even a not so new builder to toss his or her
hands up. Airplane builders are a unique bunch but all of us build for the
pride of ownership of a special aircraft. Years ago design was an " it
looks about right"  science and many aircraft flew just fine.  Obviously
numbers and engineering are important and have greatly improved safety BUT
they are not the end all and sometimes a "look see" is still the best
option.
 Respectfully,
  N 186 RC

KR> Ooops..voice talk

[Doran Jaffas]

That last email I sent was supposed to say I would be the owner of two
aircraft...one flying...one not and you folks on this site are great. I am
wanting a feel for what an undamaged airframe is worth.
Thank You
  Doran
   N186RC

PS. This one was typed!!

KR> Completed airframe

[Doran Jaffas]

Hello folks, I have a chance to buy a completed airframe the near future
that has been on display at a local church for some time. This is a
retractable gear version and I'm trying to get a feel for what better frame
would be worth. No engine no instruments but well built.
 Are you on this site are great!
  Yes, then I would own
aircraft! 1 completed one not.
 Doran

KR> Sealers and UV protection

[Doran Jaffas]

Hello fellow enthusiasts
 This "info" session seems to have invokef some passionate responses.
   Many things can be used to seal wood adequately from airborn
moisture. There is a UV additive available in body shop supply (not auto
part ) stores. It is not cheap but very little is required and the
protection can not be beat.
So many opinions and ways of doing the job are out there that we need
to express what we know without discounting others knowledge unless we know
something is a dangerous practice.
I have been involved with homebuilt aircraft including working with a
NASA engineer on a glider for iver 30 years but still need ti be open to
learning.
  Live well...fly safe...build conservatively.
     Doran Jaffas
  N 186 RC

KR> Homebuilt pricing

[Doran Jaffas]

Folks
With all due respect anyone that has built , sold or purchased a
project or completed aircraft knows that labor on a dollar per hour basis
is never recovered in a sale. Usually 50 to 70 cents on the dollar for
materials is about all one expect. Sometimes less. We build for a variety
if reasons, purchase projects and completed homebuilts also for a variety
of reasons including prideeducation .. and performance but those
are not all inclusive.  When claims an experimental is a percentage
along...it IS ONLY THEIR INTERPRETATION of just that.  All of us have
differing opinions of this and a percieved value of any aircraft.  That
does nout make anyone wrong unless they are INTENTIONALLY trying to
decieve. In 30 years of homebuilt I have never that I know of...run
into this as the stakes are too high for all of us.

KR> Belly Flap Linkage

[Doran Jaffas]

I have been looking for a pre made mechanical belly flap linkage. Have only
found electric. I can design my own but am getting lazy I guess. Any ideas?
I checked the nvaero.com site but only saw an electric unit.
Thx.
Doran
N186RC

KR> Sport Pilot

[Doran Jaffas]

I just went through a flight review and had extensive discussions about
this. Check the F A Rs for variances on what the speeds , distances and
such regarding PILOT REQUIREMENTS.
 N186RC

KR> Paint

[Doran Jaffas]

  This may sound like a rather dumb question but all of the aircraft
I've seen (KRs) anyway sre painted white with trim colors. Is there any
real reason why white is always the base color? I know darker colors absorb
UV rays  but does anybody have any experience with this good or bad? My
experience in painting  is tube and rag or sheet metal.
Doran
 N186RC

KR> Thank you to all

[Doran Jaffas]

  Once again you folks have proved to be a brotherhood of sorts and
friends not yet met!
Many thanks to all of you for the assistance in helping me with
questions (the most recent on belly boards) regarding this plane I have had
a hankering for since I first layed eyes on in Oskosh so many years ago!
  I am looking to many hours and years of flying this gem.
Doran
N186RC
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KR> Correction on my commemt

[Doran Jaffas]

I mis spoke regarding stall speeds . Of course the belly flap does not
reduce the stall speed. It assists in slowing the aircraft ONLY. The dims.
will determine the drag and ability to slow down. When adding this to any
clean aircraft PLEASE USE CAUTION .
 N186RC

KR> Folding wings

[Doran Jaffas]

I completely agree with Marks statements. I had another home built that
used spring taper pins..fairly quick and easy to remove but still kept the
Sonerai 2 at the airport to avoid eventual wear and tear as well as the
inevitable rash and mishaps involved in towing not to mention the real
possibility of another driver doing something to cause an accident.
To get a slower stall speed flaps, belly flap or even a different
airfoil (check with the experienced on this)  are a solution to slower
stall speed.
  Doran
   N186RC
Saranac, Michigan
  U.S.A.

KR> First flight

[Doran Jaffas]

Gentleman I am assuming we can have different points of view for the
purpose of education and not offend anyone.  The gentleman I spoke of a
Sonerai flying just like a cub I believe could be a dangerous statement for
some. I have flown many different types of taildraggers including
champions, chiefs and cups along with a Cessna 140.
  All of those it is true do have similar flight characteristics though
they are unique to their own. A higher performance amateur built aircraft
does not fly orl land the same.  Build a mansion aircraft does not have any
dangers flight characteristics it is still a sensitive airplane. Mine had a
climb rate of 1500 feet per minute and a roll rate of 180 degrees per
second. Please do not take this wrong! I just believe that it could hurt
someone that is a little bit ignorant that they can fly something that is
fairly tame and jump into a higher performance sport aircraft and not have
to the very careful! This is a great website and though none of the
airplanes if flown within their respected flight parameters are inherently
dangerous we must be careful how we use our experience to convey knowledge
to others. My Sonerai was a very nice handling airplane and I do miss it
but none of these aircraft are tame is the previously mentioned Pipers,
Aeronca's or Cessnas. Again I hope no one takes offense to this but I do
feel that it is important that we do not compare our homebuilts to factory
builts when it comes to performance.

KR> First flight

[Doran Jaffas]

This has been some good conversing. The advise on going over the aircraft
for a few weeks instead of jumping into a first flight vindicates my
thinking. I put the cart before the horse in buying N186RC in thinking
because of my Sonerai time I could just go. High speed taxi and ground
effect flight humbled me a bit though it settled down nicely. I also
realized because someone else built it that the interior needs to be
adjusted for me. The airplane survived my hanger doors being blown off by
severe winds last night with nary a scratch! I figure this little bird.
snd I have alot of flying together as LONG AS I GO ABOUT IT NO DIFFERENTLY
THAN A FIRST TEST FLIGHT IRREGARDLESS OF MY ARROGANT EXPERIENCE with
multiple types of aircraft.
 Thank you gentlemen for the intelligent advise regarding this very
important subject.
Doran.  N186RC

KR> Nose Wheel

[Doran Jaffas]

Just curious if anybody has a nose gear that they would be interested in
getting rid of? I know I can go to Great Plains or another supplier and get
a brand new one but I'd rather get a good used one if that's possible.
 My aircraft is a fixed gear as some of you know by now but I am
looking to convert it to a tri gear.
  Sincerely,
   Doran. N186RC

KR> Michigan K R 2's

[Doran Jaffas]

 Just putting out a second enquiry here.
  After the first inquiry I met a person named Harold and went down to
the Kalamazoo area to view his aircraft is under construction and it is a
beautiful machine! And will be when it is finished! He and his wife are
first rate people!
  Now I am wondering are there any other KR 2 aircraft in Michigan that
are flying? Other than my 186 RC? Is there a specific search I can do to
find this out mark I am Not all that computer savvy. Thank you!
   .kr2owner at gmail.com

KR> .KR BAD REP?

[Doran Jaffas]

If this aircraft has such a bad rep as the previous mentioned then why have
so many been built and as a new owner should I be a bit concerned? I have
previously owned and did the testing on a Sonerai 2 . The .KR 2 seems like
a good step from there.
  Doran
  .kr2owner at gmail.com

KR> Mich. Owners

[Doran Jaffas]

I may not be sending this correctly. My apologies if I'm not. Just
wondering if anybody knows of anybody else in Michigan Ithat owns a .KR 2?

KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 198

[Doran Jaffas]

Are there any KR. 2 owners for builders in Michigan?
On Oct 10, 2013 12:06 PM,  wrote:

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>1. Re:  KR and pilot (Larry Flesner)
>2.  video Bob !! (Larry Flesner)
>3. Re:  Gathering over site (JMelvin106 at aol.com)
>4. Re:  video Bob !! (JMelvin106 at aol.com)
>5. Re:  Home Again (John Bryhan)
>6. Re:  Home Again (Virgil N.Salisbury)
>7. Re:  video Bob !! (Virgil N.Salisbury)
>8. Re:  Corvair head and case identification (Mark Langford)
>9. Re:  video Bob !! (Larry Flesner)
>   10.  Home (Dan Heath)
>   11. Re:  Corvair core (Dan Heath)
>   12. Re:  video Bob !! (tommy waymack)
>   13.  .KR 2 tailwheel assembly (Larry Flesner)
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:03:55 -0500
> From: Larry Flesner 
> To: KRnet 
> Subject: Re: KR> KR and pilot
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> At 11:20 PM 10/7/2013, you wrote:
> >Seems a member of the KR community was lost yesterday in Oz.
> >Tony
> +
>
> Story
> at:
>
> http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/one-person-dead-in-tumut-plane-crash-20131007-2v3qg.html
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:48:12 -0500
> From: Larry Flesner 
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> video Bob !!
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>
>
> Netters,
>
> I got a great e-mail from Bob Vermeulen saying he is still around and
> working as well as his assistant Terry.  I will include his e-mail
> below.  Bob still has many of the Gathering videos available on his
> web site  www.kr2videos.com  .  They are a must see for all the new
> comers to the KR experience.  Maybe Bob would make a package deal for
> everyone trying to catch up on the KR history (hint).  With respect
> for all of Bob's and Terry's efforts in bringing us video of past
> Gatherings I will not make available any duplicates of his tapes.  In
> addition, I will forward to him the older videos.  If he wishes he
> can make them available also by adding to his inventory.  I don't
> know who sold the older videos but the info may be available on the
> tapes.  I couldn't get my home equipment to work so I have no idea of
> the quality or who produced them.
>
> Question to Bob:  Are all the older VHS tapes available in DVD format?
>
> I would encourage everyone to visit his web page and see what is
> available.  Mark, could you add his web page to a prominent place the
> KRNet site?
>
> Larry Flesner
>
> +++
>
> Hi Larry,  Congrats on another successful Gathering.  I saw your
> post  inquiring as to whether I was still on the net.  Yes, I am.   I
> still get the digest each day and always enjoy seeing who's doing
> what and what the latest news is.  Terry, my camera assistant and I
> were having coffee a week ago and were talking about the good times
> we had at past Gatherings.  We would have loved to have made it to
> this years event.  Terry is a video producer and editor for a large
> cancer research institute here in Grand Rapids, so he's a very busy
> person.  I of course still don't see very well so it's very difficult
> to travel.  I still get to Nashville a couple of times a year to do
> some recording, but I need an assistant to help me get around and
> make sure I get to where I need to go.  My eyesight is better than a
> couple of years ago, but I still can't drive.  I see Virgil sent some
> of the old videos to you and I'm assuming your wondering if you can
> get permission to copy them.  If that's what you're wanting, the
> answer is yes.  My videos started in 1996 at Pine Bluff.  Sounds like
> he had some older videos also.  I still have a
> website,  www.kr2videos.com   where I sell videos, but I haven't sold
> any for quite awhile.  So, If somebody would want to duplicate my old
> videos or turn them into DVDs, I would have no problem.  As you may
> recall, last year I sent you the last of my inventory to be used as
> door prizes or banquet giveaways.  I always thought the videos were
> great motivation for the builders.  The KR guys are great folks and I
> am pleased to help any and all in any way I can.
>
> I always 

KR> .KR2 COWLING

[Doran Jaffas]

Looking for a cowling for a stock .KR2. The one in stalled is functional.
But not Pretty. I can revamp it but I would like to purchase one to avoid
that
If possible.
Thx.   Doran. N186RC

KR> .KR 2 tailwheel assembly

[Doran Jaffas]

The tail wheel on 186 RC is typical. I am wondering if anybody has put a
larger tail wheel assembly with no adverse effects on landing?