Re: [lace] working diagrams

2004-08-20 Thread Ilske und Peter Thomsen
Hello Dorte,
There is a lot of gaps in the story, and the Tonder lace diagrams has
original more colours then the 4 we use now.
The german, the belge and the french diagramms too have more then four 
colours.

Greetings
Ilske
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RE: [lace] Fair Entries.

2004-08-20 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Elizabeth Ligeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
the entries were limited to only those people who lived in that State.
This, I feel would be one reason why they don't get many entries. Opening it
up to anyone might get a greater response.

State and county fairs were (and many still are) intended to show off the
quality of  products from that state or county.  It was a showcase for that
region's livestock, produce, handcrafts, etc.  It seems bizarre to me to
hear of Australians or Virginians entering the Colorado state fair.  That
seems like taking your sheep to an international stamp convention.

If a fair is intended for more than just that region, it shouldn't be called
a regional fair.  Give it some other name.

just my not-so-humble opinion,
Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/

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Re: [lace] Fair Entries.

2004-08-20 Thread Clay Blackwell
Because Tamara said that she had not yet received her State
Fair handbook, I'll jump in here...

I've poured over my handbook (which arrived last week), and
while I find that it clearly states that the objectives of
the fair are to encourage the production of goods in the
state, I have found no reference to limiting the entries to
residents of Virginia, (although some departments are
limited..)  In fact, in Item VII, it clearly states,
Competition is generally open to the world.

So to all of you who would like to send your lace to the
Virginia State Fair, I suggest that your first step is to
visit the website:  http://www.StateFair.com.

Let's knock their socks off!!  ; )

Clay

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Subject: [lace] Fair Entries.


 I have a feeling, Tamara, that you said, some days ago,
that the entries
 were limited to only those people who lived in that State.
This, I feel
 would be one reason why they don't get many entries.
 Opening it up to anyone might get a greater response.

 4 of us here in Melbourne entered the Colorado State Fair,
with 9 pieces of
 lace, and I send lace to Darwin in the far north of Oz
each year, as well as
 entering the Show here.  It all adds up to a larger
display of lace, and
 keeps the classes going.  Winning or otherwise really does
not come in to
 the equation - though it Is nice when your lace is looked
upon kindly by the
 judges!  The main reason I enter Shows is to keep
lacemaking out there in
 front of all the people who come to these Fairs and shows,
and browse
 through the Craft Halls. - someone might just get
interested...!

 from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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Re: [lace] Fair Entries.

2004-08-20 Thread Lorri Ferguson
It may depend on 'where' the funding come from.  I work for a fair named the 
Western Washington Fair (commonly called the Puyallup Fair).  It is a 
private, non-profit corporation and does accept entries from all over.  And 
being the 6th largest fair in the US, ribbons won by animals are highly 
valued.
Lorri

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 From: Elizabeth Ligeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 the entries were limited to only those people who lived in that State.
 This, I feel would be one reason why they don't get many entries. Opening 
 it
 up to anyone might get a greater response.

 State and county fairs were (and many still are) intended to show off the
 quality of  products from that state or county.  It was a showcase for 
 that
 region's livestock, produce, handcrafts, etc.  It seems bizarre to me to
 hear of Australians or Virginians entering the Colorado state fair.  That
 seems like taking your sheep to an international stamp convention.

 If a fair is intended for more than just that region, it shouldn't be 
 called
 a regional fair.  Give it some other name.

 just my not-so-humble opinion,
 Robin P.
 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
 http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/

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[lace] Re: Fair Entries (VA)

2004-08-20 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Aug 20, 2004, at 10:19, Clay Blackwell wrote:
Because Tamara said that she had not yet received her State Fair 
handbook, I'll jump in here...

I have found no reference to limiting the entries to residents of 
Virginia, [...]
In fact, in Item VII, it clearly states,
Competition is generally open to the world.
My Handbook still hasn't arrived, but I checked the website and, what 
Clay says is, indeed, correct.

How new that rule is, I have no idea; it may have been in place for a 
year or two, without me noticing the change. But a change in policy it 
is, possibly resulting from the drop in the number of entries. There 
are a couple of remnants of the old regime (like appendixes g).  In 
the Youth part of competition rules, the kids must still attend a 
school in Virginia (originally, that was meant to allow kids who went 
to private schools in VA but weren't residents of the State, to 
participate). And, even more telling... Section 36 - multi-generation 
projects - *specifies* that the competition is *not* limited to 
residents of Virginia  :) Stands to reason - a grandchild is likely to 
reside in a different place than a grandma - but it wouldn't have been 
mentioned if it weren't something special...

So to all of you who would like to send your lace to the Virginia 
State Fair, I suggest that your first step is to visit the website:  
http://www.StateFair.com.

Let's knock their socks off!!  ; )
Just don't forget two little details...
1) to have the items reshipped to you, you need to include a check or 
money-order for the amount *plus* $15 handling fee...  That's where a 
dedicated lacemaker, who lived in the Richmond area, would have been 
handy; she could present the stubs (sine qua non), collect the pieces, 
and send them back at real cost, without the extra... That is also 
where people who are willing to drive over and deliver/collect (but, 
*collect* more than anything else) for a group from a single locality 
(Louise Hume did that once or twice, for the Lynchburg group) to 
redistribute at home, are simply *invaluable*.

2) Is a long story (apologies to Robin and Alice who've already heard 
it)... There is a rule - apparently immutable, though slightly bendable 
- that says a class cannot be judged unless there are at least 3 
entries in it. With the continuing drop in the number of entries, it 
seemed sensible to cut down the number of classes, to insure that we 
would *have* 3 entries to judge; in the past, we were supposed to 
(though didn't) disqualify single entries, even if they were of best 
of Show quality, and even though it was no fault of the entrant, that 
nobody else submitted anything in that particular class.

So far, so good; with luck, we'll be able to have 3 entries in at least 
some classes... But there's also another rule - and that one sems to be 
impossible to dislodge - which says you can only enter one item per 
class. IOW, you cannot compete against yourself. Seems silly to me, but 
there you are... In the past, that rule was by-passed by placing 
different items in a multitude of classes; now, it will be much more 
difficult, unless you're truly versatile (or want to show a piece from 
before you had your 2 yrs of the technique, and one from after. Both 
achieved in the past year g)... But, if you have two pieces of 
continuous BL - say, one a hankie edging in Torchon, another a bookmark 
in Binche - it's no go...

Yours, frustrated (but happy I'm not a lawyer and a real judge g),
---
Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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[lace] Re: Fair categories (VA)

2004-08-20 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Obviously, the subject  is very much on my mind... :)
On Aug 19, 2004, at 15:15, Helen Bell wrote:
This year we had a new class added to our section, which I think the
Fair people added.  It was listed as Lace Christmas Ornament (not
knitting or crochet), and my co-Judge and I respectfully suggested that
perhaps it be reworded for next year to Lace Holiday ornament so that
people can enter ornaments relating to other holidays such as Easter,
Halloween, etc, and not just Christmas.
The VA Fair has a separate Section for Holiday Ornaments - not part of 
the 2 lace Sections. I suppose that would be another possibility of 
by-passing the one item per class rule, especially since there are 
several classes there which would be suitable for lace. Another avenue 
to explore would be the two senior Sections - one for over 55s and 
one for over 80s (if any of us live that long g). We (the judges) 
get called to other Sections as well, *if the items entered there are 
marked as lace*.

We found the hardest class to judge this year was the novice class, as
it was 3 entries - a piece each of Honiton, tatting and carrickmacross.
Precisely... :) That's why we have a separate *Section* for beginners, 
and it duplicates all the non-beginner Classes, except the educational 
(non-competitive) one.

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Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
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Re:[lace-chat] newspaper jokes

2004-08-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date  : Mon, 16 Aug 2004 00:18:32 -0400
Subject : [lace-chat] newspaper jokes


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Re: [lace-chat] queen elizabeth

2004-08-20 Thread Allan+Yvonne Farrell
 i am  reading dracula by bram stoker, and i bought a book called The
knights templar about the christian crusades, and i am going to read the
two of them first before i think about any more. 

I have recently read the Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown. It is interesting to
see that when I went to research a few things in the book I found that
people took the whole book as fact and are quoting it as such on web sites
chatting about Da Vinci's works. But things in the book do make the mind
tick a bit.

Cheers, Yvonne.

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[lace-chat] secret pal

2004-08-20 Thread Lynn Weasenforth
Hello to my secret pal,

Well if patience is a virtue, then I guess I am not very virtuous, however 
it was well worth the wait, I am sorry I ever doubted in you.  What a 
treasure trove full of wonderful things.

Thank you for the book and no I do not already have it.  The lace note cards 
are beautiful, the bobbins will go on my pillow tonight, the spider stamp so 
cute and the tape dispenser quite handy.  Again, Thank you, thank you for 
everything.  I feel like a kid, and it all came a week before my birthday, 
what a treat.

Lynn with a huge smile on her face,
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[lace-chat] Harry Potter

2004-08-20 Thread rick sharon
Does anyone else visit J.K. Rowling's personal web-site?  The door is open
again for another clue about the 6th. book..but people in North America
can't access it for some reason :(  I tried going through the UK site but
still have no joy :(  Also, I've found the spider, beaker, leaf ,and
feather..but now what?  Where's the cauldron?  or does the question mark
refer to the book in the bookcase?  Since the door is only to be opened for
a short time, I'd really like to know what's behind it.  I know you have to
find a light switch, throw the darts at the dart board in a particualr
order, and do something with a bunch of numbers to get to the clue.  Has
anyone found out what to do with the telephone..or is that to come later?
Yours, in frustration, Sharon  on Vancouver Island...we've got clouds today
:))) it's still hot though :(

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Father Son Hunting

2004-08-20 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
From: J.S.
A father and son went hunting together for the first time.
The father said, Stay here and be very QUIET. I'll be across
the field.  A few minutes later, the father heard a bloodcurdling 
scream
and ran back to his son.

What's wrong? the father asked. I told you to be quiet.
The son answered:
Look, I was quiet when the snake slithered across my feet.
I was quiet when the bear breathed down my neck.
I didn't move a muscle when the skunk climbed over my shoulder.
I closed my eyes and held my breath when the wasp stung me.
I didn't cough when I swallowed the gnat.
I didn't cuss or scratch when the poison oak started itching.
But when the two chipmunks crawled up my pants leg and said,
'Should we eat them here, or take them with us?'
Well, I just panicked!
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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  Healthy US through The No-CARB Diet:
no C-heney, no A-shcroft, no R-umsfeld, no B-ush.
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[lace-chat] Secret Pal thanks

2004-08-20 Thread Helene Gannac
Dear Secret Pal in Italy,

I received your parcel this week. You sent it registered post (thank you,
but you don't really need to, the Australian Post Office is very reliable,
they just like to know what's in the parcel at the moment because of
terrorism measures), so I had to wait 3 days before I had a morning free
from work, because I had to pick it up at the post office.

But it was well worth the wait! Thank you so much for the lovely towel,
even if you didn't embroider it yourself :-). Actually, there is lots of
room left on the Aida band next to the duck, so I might add my own ducks
to this one!!Next year...
I love the pair of Italian bobbins, they are bigger than the English ones
we use, but they are very elegant. Thank you, they will be great for my
collection, and I do use them, from time to time. These will be good when
I have a thick gimp to work, or a very long length of thread.
I also like the thread. The more choice, the better! I'm putting it
carefully in my thread box until I think of something.
It's very exciting to think you will be in Adelaide!! I know we are not
supposed to know who our secret pal is until November, but I do hope you
will make yourself known to me!!!It would be terrible to know I have been
to the same conference as my secret pal and didn't meet her!! I will
arrive only on Wednesday evening, but I will be there until Sunday
morning. Of course, if you come to Melbourne, you will let me know, won't
you, and come and spend one or 2 nights with us if you can? 
Looking forward to meeting you in person,
Your not secret pal,

helene, the froggy from Melbourne

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[lace-chat] lace workshops

2004-08-20 Thread John OConnor
Hi All,

Just wanted to tell you that LACE [Lacemakers and Collectors Exchange]
just completed a workshop with Yvonne Scheele-Kirkhof. It was a marvelous
2 day experience and she is a lovely person and a wonderful teacher. We
truly enjoyed having her with us. Some of us did Bedfordshire lace and
another did Withof. 

If you have a chance to take a class with her, go for it. Her class at
IOLI convention had been cancelled this year. Let's hope she is given a
chance next year to teach at convention.

Jane O'Connor
New Lenox, IL
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