[lace] Christmas snowman raffle
Hi everyone It's such a long time since we had a raffle and I thought it would be fun to do one at Christmas time. I had an enquiry asking me where to get the thread used to make the snowman which is on the Lace Guild's Advent calendar, on December 10th. The pattern is online if you click on the picture. http://www.laceguild.demon.co.uk/ Last year, one of the 5th grade students who had been making lace for about 10 weeks, with one lesson (90 minutes) before the Christmas holidays announced that she wanted a snowman to complete in that one lesson! Hence the simplicity of it! I wound the bobbins for her and she finished the lace in that lesson. The Arctic Rays Wispy Fringe thread was bouhgt in the local embroidery shop. As I say in the instructions it is tufty, but it is also sparkly. The other thread was bought from local knitter and is just a white sparkly thread about the thickness of perle 12. Anyway, I am putting together a kit including thread, beads, ribbon and felt. If you want your name included in the draw please email me (personally not the list) including the words Christmas snowman raffle in the subject line, before midnight on Sunday 19th December. I will then mail the pack on Monday morning, so you might get it in time for Christmas, but no guarantees. For newbies, raffles are entered free and I will pay the postage - more like a present for some lucky person! Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Japanese silk thread
I hope to go to Japan next year (Nagano ken). Does anyone know where I can buy Jpanese silk thread for lacemaking? Liz Greef in a dull and wet Cromer - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Kerry Taylor auction
I went to the auction today, many lots did not meet the reserve price for the Springett's. The lace did not do so well either. I am tired so will sign off. Yes I wrote down all the prices. Jean in Newbury - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Demonstrating
Dear Lacers, In line with the comments on demonstrating, I just did a demonstration for our local historical society and the annual candlelight tour of their collection of historic houses. Along with the usual 'tatting ladies' a young man stopped by. He said he had seen us demonstrating at this same venue as a child and he just wanted to tell us what a memorable impression it had made on him. Very satisfying. I have demonstrated in all sort of places for MANY years and I can't think of a comment that has meant more. Even if your demonstration does not recruit another lacemaker, it does have an impact. So have fun demonstrating, teach someone, impress someone, enchant someone, you will be the richer for it. Judy, in cold and wet Houston, TX - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] RE: Lorelei's honiton
Hi All, Yes - I have been away for several weeks, *celebrating* a birthday, and have come home to umpteen weeks of messages - but I had to chuckle when I ready the piece about coloured gimps. Several years ago, I went on a course in Milanese lace, at Christine and David Springetts, and my chosen pattern was the 'Little Hearts'. I wound the bobbins and, as I thought that a pale pink gimp would look well with the ecru lace, I wound several pairs of said pink gimp. All went well, until the pairs for the gimp were needed. I rummaged in my box for the first pair - and retrieved them, just as Pat Bury looked at me.I do hope that's not for the Milanese lace. she said. Perish the thought! I said, as I rummaged in my friend's box for Perle in cream!I must admit, it was quite a while before I did use colour in Milanese after that - but now I tend to do what pleases me, not what is probably the 'traditional' way to do it! Carol - back in Suffolk, after a wonderful time in North Pembrokeshire, W. Wales. It is interesting to me how many people are now putting color into their lace. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: Lorelei's honiton
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carol Adkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I wound the bobbins and, as I thought that a pale pink gimp would look well with the ecru lace, I wound several pairs of said pink gimp. I had similar with my first attempt at designing a piece for a pendant in Bucks - in Jennifer Ford's class. Using white silk (silk white is more of a cream) for the main threads, decided to use pink to outline the flowers and green for the stems - both pastel shades. Jennifer's comment (and I can't remember exactly what she said now) about using coloured gimps put me off wearing said pendant for a long time.. until, my first ever demonstration outing (for the first National Lacemaking Day, in 1991), when I had it pinned up amongst other pieces I had made - and quite a few favourable comments were made, as to how pretty it looked, etc. After that, I gained the confidence to wear it. The pink and green threads have now both faded back to almost white, though - (has anyone else had this problem with Mulberry Silks?) - so maybe yet another reason why we think that traditional lace was all white, black or ecru? -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Book - Plants and Flowers in Lace
Plants and Flowers in Lace by Bridget Cook is on sale by Edward Hamilton Bookseller in the US. This is a Batsford book, paperbound now at $7.95. I would also like to wish all a very Happy Holiday Season and to thank everyone for the wonderful lace help and information over the past year. Diane Z Lubec, Maine - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #409
The challenge is to make lace relevant to people in some personal way -- the beauty, the crafting process, the engineering aspect of design, the links with history and literature, beauty of the tools -- the food traditions or nursery rhymes if nothing else works!!! Hear,hear, Lorraine. I like to talk about my various fiber crafts as a source of comfort and connection to the work that women (and men) have turned to throughout history to create beauty, to honor their loved ones, to make a lasting contribution or to express creativity. This is a basic human impulse and the answer to those who tell you that you could never sell it for enough money. I just say But it sure is beautiful! Madelin the lurker - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] tatting repair/costs
Today at the Ratti Christmas party I found myself talking to a woman from Textile Conservation. I mentioned that I had had an inquiry about finding someone to repair tatting. She said, There are people who do that sort of thing. I asked her for names and she provided two that I had already heard of. What do you think it would cost? I asked. She said, several hundred dollars. The conservator would have to look at the piece, decide what needed to be done, write it up and have the client sign off on it. What do you think the hourly rate would be, I asked. About $50 or $60 dollars and hour was the reply. We didn't go into it, but it is also sometimes the case that ethical conservation requires that the conservator make the repair in a distinctly different thread so that it is not confused with the original work. This is not what people who want to use lace are usually looking for. Also, the conversation had started with the question asked by her of me, museum lace consultant, whether anyone still made needlelace. She apparently knew that people still make bobbin lace. This opens the question in my mind as to how many textile conservators actually know how to make lace. I am sure that they are good at mending, but I wonder if they can for instance fill in missing areas. So the question is also, for several hundred dollars, what does the job actually look like at the end. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] My Lappet
It is hard to tell from the picture, but am I the only person who thinks this may not be a lappet? It looks to me like it might be a dress ornament from the late 19th, early 20th century. I am a little out of my depth in costume, I'm afraid, but didn't they wear things like this in the 1890s or so? The back of the lappet looks more like the back of a collar to me, than something that would go on top of the head. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: tatting repair/costs
On Dec 16, 2004, at 21:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon) wrote: What do you think it would cost? I asked. She said, several hundred dollars. The conservator would have to look at the piece, decide what needed to be done, write it up and have the client sign off on it. What do you think the hourly rate would be, I asked. About $50 or $60 dollars and hour was the reply. [...] This opens the question in my mind as to how many textile conservators actually know how to make lace. I am sure that they are good at mending, but I wonder if they can for instance fill in missing areas. So the question is also, for several hundred dollars, what does the job actually look like at the end. I think, in the future, if anyone asks me about repairing lace, I'll just recommend that they get Elizabeth Kurella's Anybody Can Mend Lace and Linens. At a mere $20 (plus shipping), one can get an idea from it whether: 1) the piece is worth trying to repair 2) what the repair would involve (piecing threads or making a spearate insertion and then piecing that in) 3) learn how to tackle the job 4) in extensio of 3 - if it's too much work for you to do at home, think how much a professional will charge. Then go back to 1 :) Too bad Evelynn (who posted the original question) is curently unsubscribed, but, for the rest: http://www.elizabethkurella.com/bookbyelmkur.html --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: My Lappet?
On Dec 16, 2004, at 21:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon) wrote: It is hard to tell from the picture, but am I the only person who thinks this may not be a lappet? No, you're not g I'd have expected a lappet to, either: be straight except for the wider ends, or: widen out at both sides in the centre, rather than curve in at one side and curve out at the other. But, when I think lappet, I think *very early* 19th c *at the latest*, and more likely 18th. It looks to me like it might be a dress ornament from the late 19th, early 20th century [...] didn't they wear things like this in the 1890s or so? The back of the lappet looks more like the back of a collar to me, than something that would go on top of the head. Quite so. That had been my own instinctive response but I wasn't going to say anything, until someone else did (and you're it g) But, as I'd said above, 'when I think of lappet... ' I just checked the Concise Oxford Dictionary and, lappet is defined as: fold; loose or overlapping piece of garment (though secondary meaning is streamer of woman's head-dress). We both think of lappet in terms of its secondary meaning but, if you apply the first meaning, then the lappet-collar that Barbara has, even though worn much later and in a different manner, can still be called a lappet. And, by whatever name, it's a beautiful piece ... :) BTW. I have a lovely, *contemporary* piece (Russian Tape lace) which is even more grievously misnamed. More grievously, because it had been called a collar by it's maker, not by some 3rd-hand reseller... I do wear it as a collar sometimes, but I've never been able to either find or make a neckline to fit it; it bunches up and stretches out in all the wrong places. And then, one day, I tried to fit the inner curve around my face rather than my neck, and the fit was *perfect* :) The piece is the exact shape of a lace head-dress worn in some folk costumes in Russia. Those, in turn, are the remnants of an earlier head-dress, where the outer structure was rigid and sumptuous, but, quite often, the inside (surrounding the face) was softer - pleated linen or silk. And lace, still a bit later... The head-dress was called kokoshka (hen), because it resembles the spread tail of a hen... The head-dress of Mother Durga is of a similiar shape. --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] My Lappet
The problem stems from my previously announced ignorance of all things antique. I was under the impression that a lappet went around the neck, like a collar, but with the long thingies hanging down in front. Now I understand that a lappet is worn on the head. Sorry! This piece is clearly not meant to be worn on the head, but rather, as you say, it is meant to be worn with the needlelace inset at the center back, like a collar, and the long strips down the front. (I guess!) Barbara It is hard to tell from the picture, but am I the only person who thinks this may not be a lappet? It looks to me like it might be a dress ornament from the late 19th, early 20th century. I am a little out of my depth in costume, I'm afraid, but didn't they wear things like this in the 1890s or so? The back of the lappet looks more like the back of a collar to me, than something that would go on top of the head. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] demonstrations
Many years ago I demonstrated lace at a Craft Fair in my hometown Betty Ann in Roanoke Virginia Me too. During the rain people took shelter under my roof with their back turned against me and what I was showing. But more showed interest, some sighed they would never ever have the patience, but also some wanted to learn. For everything there are people who like it and those wo don't or even make fun about it. If you don't want anybody to dislike what you are doing: do nothing at all. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Fair price for (modern) lace
A few months ago our Guild demonstrated lace at a large tourist shopping centre in Cape Town. A young Hawaiian girl working as an au pair for an American couple visited the demonstration and said she was getting married in March 2005 and would love a lace garter for her wedding. One of the lacemakers - not me I am not quite that daft - offered to make her a garter and the two of them exchanged addresses etc. Elsabe then proceeded to make this beautiful Bucks garter but also started thinking along the lines of getting some monetary return for the Guild. So I bravely offered to do the negotiating. I wrote a long letter to this girl explaining the effort that went into making the lace etc etc and that Elsabe has now donated the garter to the Guild and the cost would be 50 USD. I got a very panicky e-mail back to ask if she must now pay the 50USD and the Guild gets to keep the garter!!! Talking about crossed wires. I then wrote back to make myself more clear and then started to panic that she might throw the garter away at the wedding and fortunately she understood that explanation! The garter has gone off and we are waiting with bated breath to see if the money appears! Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Fair price for modern lace
I have recently experienced selling some of my lace at a local craft fair. They were very simple lace outlines of a rocking horse, dala horse and a reindeer, all of which morphed out of the rocking horse design. You can see the first two at the bottom of my web shots page but the dala horse has changed design to include a saddle since I made the one posted there. http://community.webshots.com/album/149126673AmIpMo These pictures were sold in nice wooden frames from the dollar store for $12 pre-craft fair and $15 at the craft fair. I have sold at least ten of these pictures, I only have 3 in stock now and I think that was because of my color choice of background matts. I realised that white lace disappears on a pale green background under the lights of the craft fair so I will be changing the backgrounds on the remaining ones. I know that to us $12 is not much for something that probably took me 3 hours to make but it has put over $100 into our convention fund. We are considering making notecards of the reindeer to sell to lacemakers. I did use it for my christmas card this year so I am getting a lot of mileage out of the simple design. I don't think any of the lace bookmarks we had were sold and only a few of the Ufo glass candle holders with lace inside sold, but most people at the craft fair were looking for christmas decorations for their homes. Maybe next year we will make more christmassy things. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Mittens
Hi All, Ruth wrote: Dear Bev, Your question brought back memories! Let me say upfront that I understand the need for strings to connect mittens, especially for a young child, but as a young child, I *hated* having a string To keep my little hands warm in an English winter, I had a pair of fur mittens (my mother had fur gloves...and how I wished I had gloves too!), Memories, memories Oh Ruth, so many memories came flooding back to me of my 16 winters spent in the north of England - so cold. So, now we are having temps of 34, 36, deg. C tomorrow and Saturday, certainly no need for mittens, but beach, here I come. :-) Merry Christmas to you all Shirley T - just surfacing after a rushed trip to help out in Perth - just a great excuse to see our grandsons. :-) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] : -) Office Party (2)
MEMORANDUM FROM : Patty Lewis, HR Director TO : All Employees 2nd December HOLIDAY PARTY In no way was yesterday's memo intended to exclude our Jewish employees. We recognise that Chanukah is an important holiday which often coincides with Xmas, though fortunately not this year. However, from now on we're calling it our Holiday Party The same policy applies to any other employees who are not Christians or those still celebrating Reconciliation Day. There will be no Xmas tree present and no Christmas carols will be sung. We will, however, have other types of music for your enjoyment. I hope that makes you happy! Happy holidays to you and your families Patty Jean in Pooe To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Louise Story
Some years back a Christmas story was posted regarding Louise would anyone still have a copy on hand??? Thank you Faye Owers Shearwater Tasmania Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: PC greetings
As we're exiting the era of PC (as in: political correctness, not personal computer), enjoy the times when it was prevalent and gave us something to laugh about... Season's Greeetings (bland and blah) to you all. From: M. A. Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. We also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2005, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only AMERICA in the Western Hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, or sexual preference of the wishee. By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms: This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher. --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Stella awards
The *one* spot where our prex and I somewhat agree is the matter of the outrageously large awards our judiciary system sometimes gives to the non-deserving (where he and I do not agree on the same subject would take a volume the size of Windows for Dummies to write, so I won't burden y'all with it)... From: E.H. The land of the freeand limitless litigation Once again, it's time to review the winners of the Annual Stella Awards. The Stella's are named after 81-year-old Stella Liebeck who spilled coffee on herself and successfully sued McDonalds. That case inspired the Stella Awards for the most frivolous successful lawsuits in the United States. 5th Place (3-Way-Tie) A jury of her peers awarded Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas, $780,000 after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving toddler was Ms. Robertson's son. 5th Place (3-Way-Tie) 19-year-old Carl Truman of Los Angeles, California, won $74,000 and medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. Truman apparently did not notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when he was trying to steal the hubcaps. 5th Place (3-Way-Tie) Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania, was leaving a house he had just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was malfunctioning. He could not reenter the house because the door connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The family was on vacation and Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the garage for 8 days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi and a large bag of dry dog food he found in the garage. He sued the house owners insurance claiming the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed to the tune of $500,000. 4th Place Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next-door neighbor's Beagle dog. The Beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog might have been a little provoked at the time, as Mr. Williams who had climbed over the fence into the yard, was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun. 3rd Place A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, $113,500, after she slipped on a soft drink and broke her coccyx tailbone. The beverage was on the floor because Ms.Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument. 2nd Place Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware, sued the owner of a nightclub in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom window to the floor and knocked out two of her front teeth. This occurred whilst Ms. Walton was trying to crawl through the window in the ladies room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 and dental expenses. THE GRAND PRIZE This year's runaway winner was Mr. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mr. Grazinski purchased a brand new Winnebago Motor Home. On his trip home from an OU football game, having driven onto the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the driver's seat to go into the back and make himself a cup of coffee. Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and then overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him, by instructing him in the owner's manual, that he actually could NOT do this. The jury awarded him $ 1,750,000 plus a new Winnebago Motor Home. FOOTNOTE: The company ACTUALLY changed their owner's manuals on the basis of this suit just in case there were any other complete morons buying their recreation vehicles. --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: PC greetings
And thank God for that!! I'd like to find the idiot who coined that phrase and beat him/her/it with a person-hole cover grin. Thanks for the grin. Tamara P. Duvall wrote: As we're exiting the era of PC (as in: political correctness, not personal computer), enjoy the times when it was prevalent and gave us something to laugh about... Season's Greeetings (bland and blah) to you all. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Planting potatoes
First time I saw it, the clever one was a jailbird. Now, the times they are a-changin', so there's been an adjustment. Next thing you know, an Arab and a jailbird will be listed as synonyms in every American dictionary :( Still, the *idea* is amusing, however much my PC guts are revolting... :) From: E.H. An old Arab man who has been living for 40 years in Idaho wanted to cultivate potatoes in his garden, but digging up the earth was getting to be too hard at his age. His only son, Ali, was studying in France, so he decided to send him an e-mail explaining the situation: Dear Ali: I feel very disappointed because this year I'll be unable to plant my potatoes in my garden. I am too old to plow the ground. I wish you were here, then my problems would be solved, because you would remove the soil for me. I love you, Dad Dad: For God's sake, DO NOT remove the ground of that garden. It's there that I have hidden 'you-know-what'. I love you, Ali At 4 a.m. the next day the local police, plus FBI and CIA agents, along with Pentagon delegates, came in and turned the garden upside down looking for dangerous material to build bombs, anthrax or whatever. They found nothing and they left. The same day the old man received another e-mail from his son: Dear Dad: I am sure you can plant your potatoes now. It was the best I could do in the current circumstances. I love you, Ali --- Tamara P Duvall http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] RE: measuring a child's coat
Ruth, I'm with you! My Mum did that to me, and I loathed it, and it drove me nuts. And then you'd take your hands out of the mittens or gloves (mittens I think mine were), and the darn things's dangle and flap in the breeze and still irritate me by getting in the way. I tried it with my son once, and then opted for the elbow mittens - mittens with great long 'gauntlets' or sleeves that went up past his elbows, and they slipped on under his jacket. They were the best thing I found - and worked pretty well too, as it was hard for him to get them off or for them to come off. Perfect for playing in the snow :-) Maybe Bev is lucky enough to have a dainty little one receiving the mittens, who won't mind the string. Bev: I measured my daughter's coat (an XS - so for a 4/5 year old - and at 6 1/2 Katie is marginally bigger than my 4 year old nephew, and way smaller than my son was at 4), and I got a good 44 wingspan. Hope this helps you. Cheers, Helen, Aussie in Denver, where we had an inch of the white stuff overnight, and 'something' is moving in next week - maybe a rare white Christmas? :-) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] RE: measuring a child's coat
Dear Helen, Parents do awful things to children, albeit with the best of intentions, but joining mittens together was something I felt so strongly about that I *never*, *ever* inflicted that on my children. I presume that your Mother has now gone off on her annual pilgrimage in pursuit of fish...so she won't know you've dobbed her into the whole of Arachne???! (vbg!) Regards, Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) - Original Message - From: Helen Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: [lace-chat] RE: measuring a child's coat Ruth, I'm with you! My Mum did that to me, and I loathed it, and it drove me nuts. And then you'd take your hands out of the mittens or gloves (mittens I think mine were), and the darn things's dangle and flap in the breeze and still irritate me by getting in the way. I tried it with my son once, and then opted for the elbow mittens - mittens with great long 'gauntlets' or sleeves that went up past his elbows, and they slipped on under his jacket. They were the best thing I found - and worked pretty well too, as it was hard for him to get them off or for them to come off. Perfect for playing in the snow :-) Maybe Bev is lucky enough to have a dainty little one receiving the mittens, who won't mind the string. Bev: I measured my daughter's coat (an XS - so for a 4/5 year old - and at 6 1/2 Katie is marginally bigger than my 4 year old nephew, and way smaller than my son was at 4), and I got a good 44 wingspan. Hope this helps you. Cheers, Helen, Aussie in Denver, where we had an inch of the white stuff overnight, and 'something' is moving in next week - maybe a rare white Christmas? :-) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] moly?
Dear native speaking friends, passed a little funny test which asks for your beahviour while suffering from a cold and other simple silly questions and gives as a result, what kind of herbal tea you are.. while some others turned out to be chamomille, what I understand, I seem to be moly. none of my dictionaries knows about moly. Can you help? TIA, Eva, from Haltern, Germany To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] lace as an art [lace]
Aurelia wrote: Dear Devon -- I think that long before we can find buyers for recently-made (contemporary?) lace, we have got to educate our public about the artistic value of lace; and that thread is just as interesting and beautiful as paint or marble. When the public has got that idea into its head, it will put its hand into its pocket as willingly for a stunning piece of contemporary lace as it does at present for modern paintings and sculpture... I think that may be the crux of the matter, Aurelia: the fact is that ordinary people do *not* buy original paintings or piceces of sculpture any more than they would buy lace at the price we would want to pay. Rich people and cultivated people buy those things, either because they have the money and want to invest, or because they can appreciate the work they are buying. It's those people we have to educate, not the general public, who is quite as happy with a reproduction of David made in Taiwan as they would with the original (probably happier, actually, because it doesn't cost as much...) Helene, the froggy from Melbourne, where it's still raining on and off (on at weekends and off while I'm working :-)) Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Mittens
And now they don't recommend strings - at least not the kind that run from one mitten to the other through the coat, because of the danger of strangulation. We sometimes used the commercial mitten clips - two grips of the sort used for suspenders connected by a short piece of wide elastic. Or sometimes I made a short string of the same yarn as the mitten (crocheted) and used a safety pin to connect it to the coat sleeve. Martha Krieg In Michigan where it has suddenly gone from 50F to 21F in the mornings! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
