[lace] Susan bobbin - painted?
Brian wrote: I see Jean thinks they have been painted recently. That was my first thought but did not jump in before I researched the decoration with the list. I should have added that my reason for saying this was that I was given one which seemed to be just like these - it was painted with nail varnish. The letters were painted over the dots and beyond in yellow, the main bobbin was dark red, the rings dark green - look hideous! Acetone removed the nail varnish revealing a natural bone bobbin with red and black making the letters and in a row down the back and with red rings, but it was wrecked because the nail varnish was still in the very fine hairline cracks found naturally in bone. I should have kept it as an example of what not to do, but gave it to my niece, who gave it to someone else. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Inscribed bobbins
Good morning All, I took a quick look at the Susan' bobbin. The sale had ended by then though. A couple of things struck me. The green colour was startling, but I have one similar. But I cannot remember seeing a Coloured inscribed bobbin. Also all the inscriptions I have seen have been in block capital letters. 'Susan' appeared to be cursive. The other thing that worries me about it is the name itself 'Susan' This is only a gut feeling as they say, but Susan does not strike me as a victorian name. I have been searching for a 'Jean' bobbin for years but I know that I am unlikely to find one. Victorians just did not call their daughters that. Jan is the nearest I can come up with. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace book corrections (was Muriel Instructions...)
In response to a thread on corrections pages to lace books, Tamara Duvall wrote: Jean and David Leader started, a while ago, a webpage of errata to books of living authors. It was supposed to collect just such proofreading slip-ups. The project got forgotten over time (part of the reason being that errors needed to be found first, then the author's permission given for such corrections) but it seems to me that the Visual Intro to Bucks Point, with the list of oopsies provided by the author herself would be a heaven-sent addition. To put the record straight, this was one of several disparate projects on the original 'Lacenotes' website put together by Glenys Pople, with Vibeke Ervo being the prime mover. When Glenys was eventually obliged to give up production work, Jean and I (David) agreed to host the site in part of our own webspace http://www.q7design.demon.co.uk/lacenotes/ and I redesigned the web pages according to my own philosophy at the time. We did not include the Errata material already available because it was incomplete, and I didn't wish to design something that I would then have to change. Our involvement was (and is) limited to mounting corrections for which others had obtained authors' permission, and little of that has been forthcoming. However I now realize - what will already be obvious to those of you who work in this area - that a project of this sort will never be completed and the idea of fixed web pages (like the rest of the site) was inappropriate. What one needs to do is set up a database of corrections (Author, book, correction) and allow people to select from a drop-down menu of available authors or books to view a page generated from the database 'on the fly'. That way, new books and authors would only need adding to the database to automatically appear on the menu in the web page. The problem is that our personal webspace is a 'freebie' that comes with our broadband connection and email, and does not include database facilities (such as mySQL) or the necessary support for the technology (PHP or Java Servlets for example) that generates web pages from a database. If this project is ever to get off the ground and onto the web, I feel that it would need web hosting with such facilities. These are quite widely available, but we don't have them, and we are obviously not going to change our ISP and email address to obtain them just for this project. David and Jean in Glasgow -- Jean Leader Glasgow, Scotland, UK Lace Guild web site: http://www.laceguild.org - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Errata
Well, you'll all be pleased to know that there aren't as many as I thought. Most were in Muriel and it's a long time ago -senior moments and all that. Page 57:- Bobbins 18 pairs Gimps 2pairs + 1 single PIXIE Page 77:-Colours have been transposed YVONNE Page 87 The _first_ pinhole, on the working diagram, is the one to the RIGHT of the *'+'* sign on the top oval. I've had a quick flip thro' the others they did together and couldn't find any more errata. Can I take the opportunity to wish everyone a Happy Christmas and a _*Peaceful*_ Year for 2006. Happy lacing, Sheila in a dull Sawbo' with all the shopping done!!! www.lace-helpandhist0ry.info - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Lace Angel
The matter appears to have been settled before I read my mail, but another possibility, should a similar situation arise, is to ask the copyright owner for permission to post or forward the pattern, together with an address to mail payment to. A similar scheme worked out very well for The Spriggan Mirror -- I think http://www.ethshar.com/thesprigganexperiment0.html is still up, so you can read how that one worked. The suggested contribution could be less than the price of the pattern, but more than the margin on sales, and so get the school a bigger contribution while making the pattern available to people who can't buy a physical copy. Of course if the problem lies in delivering the cash, rather than in delivering the pattern or in placing the order, we have an entirely different kettle of fish. -- Joy Beeson http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~dbeeson594/ROUGHSEW/ROUGH.HTM http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ http://www.timeswrsw.com/craig/cam/ (local weather) west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's snowing again, and a goose was spotted strolling across what we'd thought was open water. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace book corrections
Hello all For technical reasons I copied this thread from arachne to bobbinlace In response to a thread on corrections pages to lace books, Tamara Duvall wrote: Jean and David Leader started, a while ago, a webpage of errata to books of living authors. It was supposed to collect just such proofreading slip-ups. The project got forgotten over time (part of the reason being that errors needed to be found first, then the author's permission given for such corrections) but it seems to me that the Visual Intro to Bucks Point, with the list of oopsies provided by the author herself would be a heaven-sent addition. (...) However I now realize - what will already be obvious to those of you who work in this area - that a project of this sort will never be completed and the idea of fixed web pages (like the rest of the site) was inappropriate. What one needs to do is set up a database of corrections (...). The problem is that our personal webspace is a 'freebie' that comes with our broadband connection and email, and does not include database facilities (...) David and Jean in Glasgow Yahoo supports simple databases. So I created one on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bobbinlace/database I chose the most lively group with the most members I know of. Go ahead and fill it. Though the fields look small, you can type or paste lengthy stories. I just didn't discover any control over wrapping and new lines. If this database is widely supported (that means: gets filled and keeps getting filled) I might consider (this isn't a promise) generating a more accessible version of the contents. But I'd be happy to transfer ownerhsip of the database itself to allow for corrections on the contents. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Inscribed bobbins
Jean Barrett wrote: I have been searching for a 'Jean' bobbin for years but I know that I am unlikely to find one. Victorians just did not call their daughters that. Jan is the nearest I can come up with. I gave up looking for a Jean bobbin quite quickly when I realised that most of us Jeans in the UK were born within a relaltively short timespan, mostly just after the second world war. As I'm often misnamed Jane by those even older than I am, I settled for a Jane - after all the letters are just in a different order :-) I did make one myself using an old, but not antique bone bobbin (nothing like as good as an original one), making the dips with a Dremel (small modelmakers electric drill), but I don't include it in my antique ones. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Inscribed bobbins
Hello Jean My gt gt gt grandmother, born in the 1790s was a Susan, and whilst helping with indexing of the old birth registers at Medway Register Office I've seen Susan a few times; not as common in the 1840s and 50s as it was in the 1940s and 50s, but not particularly unusual. Jean would be less likely - though you might just find a mis-spelled Jane! I thought the green bobbin especially was a bit garish to be genuinely old, but the photo wasn't clear enough to really tell. Brenda The other thing that worries me about it is the name itself 'Susan' This is only a gut feeling as they say, but Susan does not strike me as a victorian name. I have been searching for a 'Jean' bobbin for years but I know that I am unlikely to find one. Victorians just did not call their daughters that. Jan is the nearest I can come up with. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Inscribed bobbins
Just had a quick check on the 1881 census - there were approximately 1,443 Jean entries. Some of them are Born in France so could well be male . There are only 9 in Beds and Bucks (couldn't think of where else to look for potential lacemakers). Malvary in Ottawa - Original Message - From: Jean Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace Arachne lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:50 AM Subject: [lace] Inscribed bobbins Good morning All, I took a quick look at the Susan' bobbin. The sale had ended by then though. A couple of things struck me. The green colour was startling, but I have one similar. But I cannot remember seeing a Coloured inscribed bobbin. Also all the inscriptions I have seen have been in block capital letters. 'Susan' appeared to be cursive. The other thing that worries me about it is the name itself 'Susan' This is only a gut feeling as they say, but Susan does not strike me as a victorian name. I have been searching for a 'Jean' bobbin for years but I know that I am unlikely to find one. Victorians just did not call their daughters that. Jan is the nearest I can come up with. Jean in Cleveland U.K. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Inscribed bobbins
At the bottom of page 53 of Christine David Springetts book there is a similar type of bobbin, made by Archibald Abbott this one reads 'Fear God'. Though the picture is in black and white it is clearly decorated in the same way and in their words Abbott favoured a variety of colours 'from brilliant purple to veridian green' - 'The colour of some of these dyed bobbins remains so vivid today that they look as though they have just left the dye bath'. They don't appeal to me at all, I may have one somewhere but only as a sample of its type. Diana in Northamptonshire - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re Inscribed bobbins
I have over 2,000 bobbin inscriptions stored on databases - just checked for 'Jean' - sorry nothing :o( Diana - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Jean Leader's Thistle Bookmark
This thisle bookmark is the piece of lace that got the fire burning in me to learn how to do bobbinlace. I have had Jean's patterns for quite some time now. I think the time for me to finally do it is now. The reason I am writing to the lace list is because...I remember along time of ago seeing this book mark done in colors. I don't remember where I saw it or who did it in colors but I would like to find the person that made that bookmark. If you are the person that made the Thistle Bookmark in color or if you know where on the internet the picture is could you please send me an email and let me know. I really liked it in color I remember. Of course it is pretty in white also... On the subject of the lace angel that was made by Faye...I would like to know how I can get this pattern. I also agree with Joy. Sometimes getting the pattern mailed to one isn't necessarily the hard part...it is paying for it in another currency. But I do like the angel. Faye did a excellant job on her. Someone also gave a url for a site where I believe the angel is listed. I did go there..but it is in another language also hard for somebody like me to read. It would be better if school are selling these pattern to get funds for their schools if they could put them on the internet for other people like me to be able to see them...the picture of the pattern and a way that we can pay for the patterns thereby giving the money to the school. I think there are some lace patterns that are just out of reach for some of us as lacemakers. Anyhow...I hope someone will contact me in concern with the Thistle Bookmark. I hope you all have a very Merry Christmas and I hope you all have a New Year that will bring you all you could wish forHAPPINESS. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Fwd: [lace-chat] LOOKING FOR LACEMAKERS IN SWEDEN
I'm forwarding this from chat, because I think Alessandra's chances are better here. Begin forwarded message: From: Alessandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 20, 2005 16:43:43 EST To: Lace-chat lace-chat@arachne.com Subject: [lace-chat] LOOKING FOR LACEMAKERS IN SWEDEN Reply-To: Alessandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo, I am Alessandra from Italy and I WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT LACEMAKERS FROM SWEDEN I REMEMBER ABOUT MARIE, BUT FORGOT THE ADDRESS. THANK YOU MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL LACEMAKERS IN THE WORLD ALESSANDRA -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace book corrections (was Muriel Instructions...)
I would like to see all the corrections for Visual Introduction so I hope it gets posted to the list. I thought I remembered that someone had a web page with errata and addendums for lace books and I was thinking it might have been Lace Fairy as that is such a comprehensive website. I don't remember ever looking at Lacenotes so if anyone knows of any other lists of corrections perhaps they would post it to the list. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Susan Bobbins
Jean says that she is not sure if Susan is a name that would have been used in Victorian times. I have to say that as a Susan myself I have collected several with that name. In fact I haven't counted them up but as I do have several, I have stopped focussing on Susan, coz I began to think that if I collected them all, someone would say there were no Susans who were lacemakers in the old days! I have also been collecting family names and now have Fred, Stephen, Anne (which will have to do for my daughter Annemarie), George, Philip, Elizabeth and Daniel. However I don't think I will have much luck in collecting Veronica, Rochelle, Jorja and Chiara! Sue Fink, Masterton, New Zealand - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Thanks
My heartfelt appreciation goes out to all of you who have taken the time and trouble to send me forwards over the past 12 months. Thank you for making me feel safe, secure, blessed and healthy. * Extra thanks to whoever sent me the email about rat cr*p used in the glue on envelopes - cause I now have to use a wet sponge every time I need to seal an envelope. * I no longer check the coin return on pay phones because I could be pricked with a needle infected with AIDS. * I no longer go to shopping centres because someone might drug me with a perfume sample and rob me. * I no longer eat KFC because their chickens are actually horrible mutant freaks with no eyes or feathers. * I no longer worry about my soul because at last count, I had 363,214 angels looking out for me. * I have learned that God only answers my prayers if I forward an email to seven of my friends and make a wish within five minutes. * I no longer have any savings because I gave it to a sick girl on the internet who is about to die in the hospital (for the 1,387,258th time). * I no longer have any money at all in fact - but that will change once I receive the £25,000 that Microsoft and AOL are sending me for participating in their special on-line email program. Yes, I want to thank you all so much for looking out for me that I will now return the favour, so that even though you know its rubbish, you still HAVE to forward it too! SoIf YOU don't send this email to at least 144,092 people in the next 7 minutes, BOTH your arms will fall off, you will never find true love, and you will then be committed to a maximum security prison for crimes you didn't commit where you will receive special cuddles and forced love from most of C wing. I know this will occur because it actually happened to a friend of my next door neighbour's ex-mother-in-law's second husband's cousin's beautician who was clinically dead by the end of the second day but to this day is kept alive on a life support machine her parents have to wind up hourly . SO MERRY CHRISTMAS... AND PLEASE, STOP SENDING ME CHAIN LETTERS!! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] apologies
Gentle Spiders, I wish to extend my heartfelt apologies that I may have offended someone with my story. I just wanted to share something nice, I didn't intend it to be a sermon or anything like that. Again, I am sorry. It won't happen again. Love to all, Lynn To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] LOOKING FOR LACEMAKERS IN SWEDEN
Hallo, I am Alessandra from Italy and I WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT LACEMAKERS FROM SWEDEN I REMEMBER ABOUT MARIE, BUT FORGOT THE ADDRESS. THANK YOU MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL LACEMAKERS IN THE WORLD ALESSANDRA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Thanks : )
Hi All, Thanks Laceandbits for this joke, I have't seen it in quite a while. The other time I got it it was from an aquaintance who was guilty of constantly sending forwards and long lists of jokes and just a lot of junk. He never wrote an actual e-mail. I could not figure out how he could not see himself in this particular forward!! Happy Holidays to all!! Jane in Vermont, USA where there is a LOT of action at the suet feeder! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fwd: :) Fwd: Security Levels Raised Worldwide
Very un-PC and undemocratic, given that it doesn't mention how our own govt raises those crayon-coloured alert levels every time there's an election coming around... :) From: R.P. The British are feeling the pinch in relation to recent bombings and have raised their security level from Miffed to Peeved. Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to Irritated or even A Bit Cross. Londoners have not been A Bit Cross since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorised from Tiresome to a Bloody Nuisance. The last time the British issued a Bloody Nuisance warning level was during the great fire of 1666. Also, the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels in France are Surrender and Collaborate. The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralysing the country's military capability. It's not only the English and French that are on a heightened level of alert. Italy has increased the alert level from Shout Loudly and Excitedly to Elaborate Military Posturing. Two more levels remain: Ineffective Combat Operations and Change Sides. The Germans also increased their alert state from Disdainful Arrogance to Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs. They also have two higher levels: Invade a Neighbour and Lose. Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Secret Pal thank you
Micki, Thank You so very much for my wonderful package. I love the pricking and I am preparing it tomorrow. The post card is fabulous and I think the Celtic CD may be wore out before you know it. My husband and I both have Scottish ancestors and we love this kjnd of music. My husband has a nice bagpipes collection. Thank You so much. I loved having you as a Secret Pal. Hannah To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
