[lace] Bookmarks

2009-03-11 Thread nicky.hoewener-townsend
I use the same method as mentioned in other messages for inserting bookmarks 
(using a folded piece of thin card) but I usually cut the tassle short on 
the piece of lace itself. I then use a hole punch to make a hole at the base 
of the plastic sleeve and use the left over thread from the bobbins to make 
a simple tassle - lengths of thread folded in half, use a chunky crochet 
hook, put it through the punched hole then pull the folded end of the 
threads through same punched hole, pull the other half of the threads 
through this loop, pull up and trim it to whatever length pleases, this 
secures the bookmark in the sleeve.


Nicky in Suffolk 


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Re: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

2009-03-11 Thread Lindy Taylour
If you click on the image on the Irish Times webpage 
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0310/1224242572504.html


like this

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2009/0310/1224242572504_1.html

the lace is clearer.

Lindy in Ireland

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Subject: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace


Personally, I really don't care if it was Shakespeare's collar or not - I 
just

Love it, and wish we could see a better close up of the Reticella

However, - I would think that it most probably was his own, as by then he 
was
famous, and quite Someone, so could most probably afford this one 
special
piece - for High days ans holidays!!  They used to wear their Very Best 
for

portraits, and often had a lacemaker sitting with the painter to make sure
they got the lace painted correctly.

I am always amazed, and in awe, at the skills of the painters, - when we 
could

make a fair replica of the lace just from a painting made centuries ago.

Regards from Liz in Melbourn, Oz.
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Re: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

2009-03-11 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 3/11/2009 11:07:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lacema...@eircom.net writes:

_http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2009/0310/1224242572504_1.html_ 
(http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2009/0310/1224242572504_1.html) 
 
So, do we think it is Italian lace or English lace?
Devon



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Re: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

2009-03-11 Thread David in Ballarat

Thanks Lindy.


So has he got one blue eye and one brown eye, or is that artistic 
licence with lighting :)

David



http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2009/0310/1224242572504_1.html

the lace is clearer.

Lindy in Ireland


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Re: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

2009-03-11 Thread bev walker
Either Italian or English? or Flemish?
The painted face seems oddly elongate, bone structure not quite right. I
copied the image and played with it in a paint program to squash the height
and widen the face to get a more natural appearance. Interesting.
The portraitist could have been several people, one would be expert at
drafting the lace part. Someone else would do the features.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:14 AM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 3/11/2009 11:07:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 lacema...@eircom.net writes:

 _
 http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2009/0310/1224242572504_1.html_
 (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/images/2009/0310/1224242572504_1.html
 )

 So, do we think it is Italian lace or English lace?



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RE: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

2009-03-11 Thread Angel Skubic
The only problem I have with that picture is how much it looks like Sir
Walter Raleigh...who also lived around that period of time. However who am I
to dicker over who looks like who hmmm?? Doesn't matter who it is...the lace
is gorgeous...pity the painter didn't go into slightly more detail on that
lace.

Cearbhael and Pippin the Took

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Subject: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

Personally, I really don't care if it was Shakespeare's collar or not - I
just
Love it, and wish we could see a better close up of the Reticella

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Re: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

2009-03-11 Thread bev walker
Just for fun I googled images of Sir Walter Raleigh for whom there seem to
be heaps of portraits. Yes, there is a comparison in the style of beard, and
general face, can see how the one would remind you of the other. Almost all
the images of Sir Walter Raleigh have him wearing a smallish neck ruff. An
early one, c. 1585 has a very wide collar (what is the flip description,
head on a platter I think), with probably needlelace trim. At first I
thought he had lace in his hair, but have decided that is a hat, possibly
patterned velvet to match the garment.
Here is a link showing Sir Walter's lace collar:
http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/image69256.html


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 The only problem I have with that picture is how much it looks like Sir
 Walter Raleigh...who also lived around that period of time. However who am
 I


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Re: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

2009-03-11 Thread Dmt11home
I seem to recall (perhaps incorrectly) that somewhere in all the verbiage  
about it was the mention that it had been considered to be a picture of Raleigh 
 
until this new theory came out. 
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Re: [lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

2009-03-11 Thread bev walker
Maybe neither.
Intrigues me where the lace could be from, and when.

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 I seem to recall (perhaps incorrectly) that somewhere in all the verbiage
 about it was the mention that it had been considered to be a picture of
 Raleigh until this new theory came out.
 Devon


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[lace] Shakespeare wearing lace

2009-03-11 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I think Sir Walter Raleigh was written on the back of the portrait, which is
why it was thought to be him not Shakespeare.

However, many of the Aristocracy look very similar in these 16th C paintings.
The person on the cover of the Renaissance Miniatures book looks very similar,
and so does the painting thought to be of Sir Thomas Effingham (shown in
Earnshaws Lace in Fashion.)

The beard shape fines down the face and the painters made the face shape
longer and thinner. -- They were just a proud as we are, and got the painter
to paint them at their best!!! - We have Air Brushes today to slim us down a
bit, - they just had to pay the painter...! :))

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
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[lace] Sir Walter's lace collar:

2009-03-11 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Those ruffs must have been awefully uncomfortable to wear!!

I wonder how many yards/metres there were in the ruffs.  does anyone know?

I know there has been something on a web site as to how to make a ruff using
the wired ribbon - and she used about 2 metrs I think.

However these ones would have far more than that in them

Gosh! just think about making yard and yards of NL to edge them with!!  Yuk!!
How boring that must have been :)
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Re: [lace-chat] Crocodiles etc.... (Long Message)

2009-03-11 Thread Sue Duckles
Ours was perfectly legal too. However the French authorities obviously  
decided it would do in his cabinet 'You are not allowed more than  
100ml liquid in cabin luggage!'.  I proved that we'd bought it in the  
duty free in Havana, but we were NOT allowed it and it was  
confiscated!  I'm still rather annoyed about it!


Sue in EY
On 10 Mar 2009, at 22:31, Thurlow Weed wrote:

This made me think of a sea voyage I took with my parents in 1977 to  
Nassau, Bahamas from Miami.  We were all birdwatchers, and my father  
had somehow tracked down a birder in Nassau.  The gentleman gave my  
father, as a gift, a bottle of Cuban rum -- Batista rum!  As we came  
through Customs in Miami, of course we had nothing to declare, since  
the rum was pre-Castro and thus perfectly legal!  The Customs agent,  
however, was quite prepared to confiscate the rum and write up some  
official-looking paperwork, and probably have us all detained for  
attempting the smuggled contraband rum into the U.S.  However, when  
my father pointed out the *date* on the label -- I think it was 1952.


A very disappointed Customs agent!  One wonders where that bottle  
would have ended up, had it been contraband?  In the evidence  
locker? or perhaps in the agent's home liquor cabinet...?  :)


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[lace-chat] :-) Life explained

2009-03-11 Thread jeanette
I have seen this before but enjoyed it again.
Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa


On the first day, God created the dog and said:

'Sit all day by the door of your house and bark at anyone who comes in or
walks past. For this, I will give you a life span of twenty years.'
The dog said: 'That's a long time to be barking. How about only ten years
and I'll give you back the other ten?'

So God agreed.

On the second day, God created the monkey and said:

'Entertain people, do tricks, and make them laugh. For this, I'll give you a
twenty-year life span.'
The monkey said: 'Monkey tricks for twenty years? That's a pretty long time
to perform. How about I give you back ten like the Dog did?'

And God agreed.

On the third day, God created the cow and said:

'You must go into the field with the farmer all day long and suffer under
the sun, have calves and give milk to support the farmer's family. For this,
I will give you a life span of sixty years.'
The cow said: 'That's kind of a tough life you want me to live for sixty
years... How about twenty and I'll give back the other forty?'

And God agreed again.

On the fourth day, God created humans and said:

'Eat, sleep, play, marry and enjoy your life. For this, I'll give you twenty
years.'
But the human said: 'Only twenty years? Could you possibly give me my
twenty, the forty the cow gave back, the ten the monkey gave back, and the
ten the dog gave back; that makes eighty, okay?'

'Okay,' said God, 'You asked for it.'

So that is why for our first twenty years we eat, sleep, play and enjoy
ourselves. For the next forty years we slave in the sun to support our
family. For the next ten years we do monkey tricks to entertain the
grandchildren. And for the last ten years we sit on the front porch and bark
at everyone.

Life has now been explained to you.

There is no need to thank me for this valuable information. I'm doing it as
a public service. 

 

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[lace-chat] :-) Mom's in therapy

2009-03-11 Thread jeanette
A psychiatrist was conducting a group therapy session with four young
Mothers and their small children . 

'You all have obsessions,' he observed. 

To the first mother, Mary, he said, 'You are obsessed with eating. You've
even named your daughter Candy. ' 

He turned to the second Mom, Ann: 'Your obsession is with money. Again, it
manifests itself in your child's name, Penny . 

He turned to the third Mom, Joyce: 'Your obsession is alcohol . This too
shows itself in your child's name, Brandy. ' 

At this point, the fourth mother, Kathy, quietly got up, took her little boy
by the hand and whispered,  'Come on, Dick, this guy has no idea what he's
talking about . Let's go pick up Willy from school and go get dinner. '

Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa.
 

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