Re: [lace] Books on Demand
Cynce Williams wrote: Subject: Re: [lace] Books on Demand I just looked for your book on AllBooks. Compare textbook prices on new and used college textbooks http://www.allbookstores.com/ Prices range from $450 to $700 USD. Cynthia Hi everyone I've just checked out AllBooks this morning at 7.30am here in the UK and they have 2 paperback copies at $22.95 (£14.5529 GBP ) and 2 hardback copies at $39.95 (£25.3304 GBP) which I think are very reasonable prices. Anyone looking for a copy should check this out pronto! I'd buy all four copies myself but cost of postage is prohibitive! Catherine Barley UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Lace book prices
The asking price and selling price are two totally different things. You can ask 100 GBP because that's the secondhand price being quoted on sites such as Amazon, but that doesn't mean you'll sell at that price. What do they want to do - ask a high price they won't get or sell the book? I'm currently thinning our my (quite large) collection of lace books on ebay. I'm offering for sale those which I know I will never use, even if I live to be 200. Someone else might be looking for just that book, so it makes sense that they have it and not me. DH asked what I paid for a book that I listed. I told him that it doesn't matter what I paid - if I want to sell it, I'll get the price someone is prepared to pay. What a particular book will sell for will vary depending on whether it's in demand. That can be because there's a large convention and that's one of the laces on offer in workshops; because it's mentioned on a forum such as this and lacemakers think I'll have a go at that.; how many are currently on offer; or for a variety of other reasons. Even I've always wanted that book. I'm happy if I get the starting price; if I wasn't prepared to accept that amount I wouldn't be offering it at that. A few years ago the 'Technique of Tønder Lace' was popular, not so now. Similarly 'Withof Lace'. But Russian lace books are selling well. Some aren't selling at all unless they're less than GBP 5.00, and even then some might not sell at all. Of course, the high cost of postage has a lot to do with what a book will achieve. Makes sense to sell according to the current market. If you see a book that you want on ebay and it sells for more than you're prepared to pay, the chances are that at least one more will appear in the listings. The thinking might be that as one person got a certain price for that book/item the second seller thinks they will get the same. More likely that it will be the lower price the underbidder was offering. What I can't understand is when a book sells for a price and then someone else offers a copy at a higher starting price. To my mind they'll be highly unlikely to get it. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] second-hand books
Jean Nathan wrote: the asking price and selling price are two totally different things. So too are Amazon and Ebay! Amazon is the asking price and ebay is whatever someone is prepared to bid for a book and one could pick up a book for a very low cost - it is an 'auction' site! These prices on Amazon are absolutely ridiculous prices and more fool anyone who pays them. Just bide your time and I'm sure you'll pick up a second-hand copy at a reasonable price but you may have to wait a while. I just posted on arachne this morning 4 copies of my book at what I consider to be a very reasonable price. As the author who received pennies per copy in royalties for all the work I put in do you honestly think it pleases me to see these high prices - I'm appalled! Catherine Barley UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Secondhand books
Catherine wrote: I just posted on arachne this morning 4 copies of my book at what I consider to be a very reasonable price. I've just looked to see if any of mine are on ebay. There are 15 in total across the 3 books, all new, mostly just under the cover price (£7.95), with a couple about half price (obviously bought as remainders from a print run at the publisher), but 2 which are Buy it now at 25% more than the cover price - they'll be lucky! What they try to sell them for doesn't affect me because I've already had my pennies in royalties (either 10% of the cover price or of the remainder price the publisher sold them for). I should get a cheque next month for royalties on 6 months of sales, which will amount to about GBP 50 if previous recent years are anything to go by, but of course I'll lose 20% of that in income tax. Secondhand books are another matter because as Catherine says high prices are appalling - she got royalties on the original price- but also authors get nothing on secondhand sales. As I said previously I had my first published in 1984 and the last around 2000. The hard work went into them then, and I'm lucky that they are all still selling and I still get a pittance from them after all this time - most authors get royalties from one or two print runs and that's it. I was told by my publisher that they don't accept a book for publication unless they think they sell a minimum of 3,000 copies. That could mean a lot of hard work and then have it rejected. Nowadays, self-publishing through print-on-demand would seem to be the way to go if you can be certain that you'll sell enough to cover costs and get a small income. The internet has made that easier than it was. Like lacemaking, I don't think anyone can make a living from non-fiction books. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Books on Demand
A bit late chiming in but I know a few authors who have used lulu.com as far as I know their print on demand is possible in colour you submit a PDF and choose from multiple formats. The return if I remember correctly is quite good too Of the two people I know who have used it, one who writes highly specialized texts that sell very few still doesn't loose money And the other, Mick mercer sells a fair bit all over the world and makes a modest but tidy sum On 14 Sep 2011, at 08:33, Catherine Barley catherinebar...@btinternet.com wrote: Good morning everyone Thank you all so much for your views and I bow to your superior knowledge, which is way beyond my limited computer skills at present. However, I will follow up all the advice given. The response so far has been very positive but my main concern is that as my book went to five editions (I have no idea how many copies that would be) but it certainly will be a considerable number, I have no wish to spend many hours on this project, only to receive a very small number of request for a copy. My niggling fears have just been confirmed this morning in an email from someone here in the UK and I quote: Catherine Barley UK As for second hand copies of the book, I have not heard of anyone experiencing difficulties. My local lace group has several people who have bought needlelace books in the past and these people have now decided that they don't want to work needlelace and are therefore getting rid of books. The new ones wanting them are, at the moment, having no difficulty in picking up second hand copies.This could change in the future. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] second-hand books
Just bide your time and I'm sure you'll pick up a second-hand copy at a reasonable price but you may have to wait a while. I decided about a decade ago that I would like to own Roberta Morgan's translation of Mme. Despierres work about Alencon. I had read a library version, but wanted my own copy. At the time there were no copies available on Alibris, which is Amazon's second hand branch. I guess I must have gotten some kind of message to the effect that they would let me know when a copy was available. Imagine my surprise when about 8 years after placing the initial request, I was notified by Alibris that there was a copy available! Frankly, I had sort of moved on with my life since placing the request. However, the book was not that expensive, and I still wanted it, so I bought it.. I was glad I hadn't changed my email address in 8 years. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Books on demand
On 9/13/11 1:51 PM, Jean Nathan wrote: . . . the author could photocopy the book, . . . Provided, of course, that the publisher has released to him the copyright on the *typesetting*. Otherwise, one is stuck with starting with the material sent to the publisher -- if you kept a copy after the final book came out. (I threw away all the rep copies of the Bikeabout -- and the rubber cement would have turned into a stain and let go by now anyway.) -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] who would like a needlelace book
Hi everyone and Catherine First off, for Catherine, I do hope you can back up your original material in a form which you can readily use to republish, 'just in case.' The book business interests me. In the craft world, subdivision knitting, I see digital books for sale alongside print books. I even see digital books at half-price in the 'sale' section (topic for another time - how can that be when it isn't a hard copy? if it is discontinued, will there be a market for secondhand digital titles?!). I've looked for Catherine's Needlelace book online, none available within reason, for sale, or listed but noted as 'out of stock and out of print.' It was not listed at my public library's online catalogue. I know of one or two copies that I could borrow from individuals, but that's all. For my purposes, I don't need to have this book in print form - actually I don't need this book at all but now that we are talking about it I'd love to see it again. I like the idea of a digital version. Just out of interest, who reading this would buy a copy of Needlelace Designs and Techniques by Catherine Barley if it is re-issued in one form or another (print or digital)? -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Books on demand
A word of caution for those producing and selling their own books. In the UK, you are classed as self-employed if you do anything to earn money yourself, even if you already have a job. Under the age of 60 I had to apply for exemption from self-employed National Insurance contributions, firstly on the grounds that I was employed and already paying employed contributions, and, when I retired still under 60, for exemption on grounds of small earnings. I was warned that if I had not done this, I could be charged the self-employed contributions if they found out I had this small amount of earnings. Secondly, I published under a pen name and after about 5 years got a letter from the tax office addressed to me asking if I knew where the person of that name was living. The publisher submits information to the tax office on royalties paid. I explained that that person was me, and that they could check their records and see that I had paid the income tax due on my earnings from the books. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] New pattern for Halloween
I am way behind with my emails as I was in Laguna Beach, California on a business trip this weekend. I was working on my needlelace on the patio outside our fancy hotel, when film producer, George Lucas walked by. Unfortunately just as he got near me, his attention was drawn, by his companion, to the cabana's nearby which had big flat screened tv's, so I didn't get to make eye contact. I also missed seeing Cuba Gooding Jr, Lyn Swan (US footballer), and Diana Ross. She was singing at the fundraiser being held last Saturday evening. Anyway, in my absence, my DD has put the Halloween cat on my website, link below. This pattern was on the IOLI cd handed out to charter lace guild chapters. I am putting it up as it is appropriate for the season, but also as an advert to get US lace guilds to charter with IOLI. There are some perks in being chartered. The pattern looks large, but is the correct size as I used it on a tote bag, covering up a design I did not want. You could make it smaller and still use the Gutterman 100/3, or make it the same size with a slightly thicker thread. I thought the 100/3 was a little fine for the piece but I did not have time to remake it. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
