[lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
Fellow Spiders, I have been enjoying my complete set of Madiera Tanne 50 that I bought many years ago in order to have a huge palette of colors for creative work in bobbin lace. But unfortunately, some colors are becoming depleted and Madiera Tanne 50 is no longer being made. I asked Holly Van Sciver about a replacement that would serve the same purpose and she said that she thought that DMC Cotton Machine Embroidery Thread, size 50 weight, (Broder Machine) was what I was looking for, but that she did not carry it. This is a 100% cotton thread in many colors. My impression from speaking to her was that the thread was so generic and universally available that it wasn't something that a vendor who dealt in difficult to obtain specialty lace threads would want to carry, so I didn't think it would be too hard to find it. However, the store locater at the DMC website is useless since it only tells you what stores carry any DMC product, such as the universally available floss. In fact, after visiting Michael's Craft store to see if their DMC offerings included DMC Cotton Machine Embroidery Thread, it seemed to me that the DMC locater was more likely to produce red herrings in the form of cheap craft stores, and high end embroidery stores than to yield the thread I was looking for. I contacted DMC via the questions area of their website, although they are physically located in Elizabeth, NJ, but a stone's throw from my house, in an effort to find out if I could buy the thread locally. My (hopelessly outdated?) concept was that it would be nice to walk into a store, look at the thread, and buy a few spools, since what I think we are talking about here is what used to be just cotton sewing thread such as we all bought for sewing back in the day. Maybe I am wrong. Of course, now sewing thread is polyester, so not necessarily what you want for heirloom (?) bobbin lace. I was hoping that I would not have to get involved in mail order. After a prolonged email correspondence with DMC which included them sending to me via snail mail a nice brochure with a color chart confirming that there are a lot of lovely colors in the Machine Embroidery line, DMC told me to call a phone number in Florida for a place called Hamburg House and that they would be able to tell me where to buy the thread. I called the number and they were utterly puzzled about why it had been given to me, since they are only fellow customers of DMC. We had a good laugh. Not deterred, I called a quilting store that I know of, but they only have hand quilting thread. I asked the quilting store lady about whether she thought Jo-Ann fabrics would have it, and the woman at the quilting store said she knew for a fact that Jo-Ann didn't carry any DMC, only Coats and Clark. I have tried to call Jo Ann fabrics, the nearest one being somewhat farther than I want to drive on spec, but they didn't answer the phone. Nearer to me, it seems that most of the fabric stores are ones that sell only upholstery fabrics. I would be grateful for any thoughts about where DMC Cotton Machine Embroidery thread could be found, as I am beginning to think that I am overlooking some obvious source. Also, if anyone has tried the thread for creative bobbin lace, is the search actually worthwhile? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
Devon, I ordered three spools directly from DMC, having been told by all my local haberdashers that I'd have to order a box of each colour if they got it for me. As I'm in France, the postage wasn't bad (2.40⬠for 4 spools), I don't know what the cost would be for the States. I'm not up to creating, I used it for a Bedfordshire thistle and a length of Bucks edging, and had no problems with them. I used the DMC because it was a joint effort, and it had been decided we would use DMC because there's a good range of different threads, readily available in France, but Aurifil 50 (40 wraps as opposed to 42 for the Dmc) also has a lovely range of colours and a silky sheen. Sue - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
I have some colors in DMC Broder Machine 50 including a few variegated ones I picked up on my travels. They either came from quilting stores or from lace vendors, probably when traveling through Iowa to Utah 2 years ago. I would think DMC 50 is thinner than regular sewing thread which is usually size 30. Check out the rest of the lace thread vendors. I have been buying Mettler 60 sewing thread at sewing shops locally for the color selection but the thread does tend to unwind and make it easier to shred when doing sewings. I like using DMC 50 for white work and there were or maybe still are different shades of white available. Don't have enough colors yet to be considered a workable pallet. Do you have fabric shops or quilting shops in your area. Might be worth a phone call. Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, 60 miles north of San Diego www.jblace.com www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
Devon, I am sure all of this is really getting annoying. I recently went to a Joann's here in South Carolina and was surprised at the selection of threads they have in their store. I was surprised to find a huge selection of Gutterman's Silk, which I like a lot, as well as a lot of Mettler. When I asked the salesperson in the thread dept a question about the threads types of threads they carry, she had no idea what I was talking about, she only knew brand names. Thank goodness I knew what I wanted.. If you aren't too far from a Joann's or Hancock Fabrics try one of them. Forget Hobby Lobby -- they carry a very limited number of threads (of course they are the closest to where I live). Also you could try one of the smaller quilting fabric stores in your area, I find a great selection of usable metallics and cottons in one near here. Good Luck It feels great to be back on Arachne after a long absence and trouble subscribing. Thanks to Nancy Neff for the help in getting me re-subscribed. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
Thanks for all the many good ideas. I was not really thinking that this would be a grail like search. How amazing! Mind you, I live in a highly populated area where almost anything is available. On top of that, I live in an area that characterized as the Embroidery Capital of the World, and that refers to the machine embroidery industry of New Jersey. It is also home to the US headquarters of DMC in Kearny, NJ. Coats and Clark opened its first US plant in Newark in 1866. The thought that I would have to mail order DMC number 50 machine embroidery thread from the various sources, in Colorado, Maine, etc. is amazing. I just called the Paramus, NJ, Sewing Center, a business specializing in machine embroidery machines, where for the first time I encountered someone who actually knows of the thread. He claims it is an item that I would probably have to go into the city, meaning NY, for. He says it is very low volume and that it wouldn't pay for him to carry it. One truly wonders why it is worthwhile to DMC to publish a beautiful full color brochure with all 132 colors for the thread when it is so low volume as to be virtually unobtainable other than by mail order. It just seems so odd to have to pay shipping costs on a spool of thread that costs about 4 dollars and doesn't seem all that special. As Bev suggests, I should probably find some 100% cotton thread that is obtainable in a fabric store. Maybe I can find the Mettler that she refers to. A lot of stores here seem to carry Coats and Clark. Maybe they have a 100% cotton thread in a lot of colors. What are other people using now instead of Madiera Tanne 50 for colors? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
I got some last year from a quilting supplier in the US, http://www.softexpressions.com I do remember struggling to find it. Joanne Bucks, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
Other threads to consider that have a range of colours are Gutterman 100% cotton Guetermann 100% cotton 50/3 - 3Z-40 w/cm Aurifil Mako Aurifil Mako 50 wt - 2Z-40 w/cm Presencia Algodón Thats Presencias sewing cotton. 50/3 is 29 w/cm so too thick. 60/3 (patchwork quilting thread) is 3Z-37 w/cm Although the Guetermann 50/3 and Presencia 60/3 are both in the right thickness range, they are three ply threads which makes them rounder and firmer than the two ply Madeira Tanne which Devon wants to replace. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with using 3 ply but it will work up different (firmer and crisper) to the way 2 ply threads works up. 2 ply is thread will squash down into itself more and is best suited to laces with a lot of twists such as point ground. 3ply threads keep their shape a little more and are better suited to laces like torchon or needlepoint where the individual threads are more noticeable. The 2-ply threads are usually marketed as machine embroidery - the squashiness of it means that satin stitch covers better. 3-ply threads (of similar thickness) are generally stronger and are intended for sewing seams. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
Other threads to consider that have a range of colours are Gutterman 100% cotton Aurifil Mako Presencia Algodon When I started using colour and needed a wide pallette I purchased about 50 shades of the Gutterman from an ebay store in the USA. Even with Postage this was a lot cheaper than buying in store. In Australia it is widely available in Spotlight Stores and now when I need to replace or fill in a gap this where I go. It does not have the lovely sheen that the Aurifil and Presencia have but is still OK to work with . Dawn Howell in beautiful Melbourne. -Original Message- From: dmt11h...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 2:32 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors Fellow Spiders, I have been enjoying my complete set of Madiera Tanne 50 that I bought many years ago in order to have a huge palette of colors for creative work in bobbin lace. But unfortunately, some colors are becoming depleted and Madiera Tanne 50 is no longer being made. I asked Holly Van Sciver about a replacement that would serve the same purpose and she said that she thought that DMC Cotton Machine Embroidery Thread, size 50 weight, (Broder Machine) was what I was looking for, but that she did not carry it. This is a 100% cotton thread in many colors. My impression from speaking to her was that the thread was so generic and universally available that it wasn't something that a vendor who dealt in difficult to obtain specialty lace threads would want to carry, so I didn't think it would be too hard to find it. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
Hi Devon Madeira Tanne - 2Z-39 w/cm. DMC Broder Machine - 2Z-42 w/cm The only other current threads in the same sort of thickness and available in colours, that I know of, are: Aurifil Mako 50wt - 2Z-40w/cm http://www.aurifil.com/products/cotton-50 http://www.aurifil.com/products/cotton-50 or Superior Threads Masterpiece - which I have listed as 2Z-38 w/cm, but according to their website only the pre-wound bobbins (sewing machine bobbins) are 50/2. The reels and cones are 50/3, I havenât yet seen any of that http://www.superiorthreads.com/product/brand/masterpiece/ http://www.superiorthreads.com/product/brand/masterpiece/ Brenda I have been enjoying my complete set of Madiera Tanne 50 that I bought many years ago in order to have a huge palette of colors for creative work in bobbin lace. But unfortunately, some colors are becoming depleted and Madiera Tanne 50 is no longer being made. I asked Holly Van Sciver about a replacement that would serve the same purpose and she said that she thought that DMC Cotton Machine Embroidery Thread, size 50 weight, (Broder Machine) was what I was looking for, but that she did not carry it. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
My local sewing store has three different 100% cotton sewing threads from Mettler, so watch out which one you get. There is a quilting cotton, their “silk finish” sewing cotton, and a fine machine embroidery thread. All of these come in a range of colours. The fine machine embroidery thread is a 2-ply and from the other comments I’d expect it to be the most similar to the one you are replacing. Adele - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] DMC Machine Embroidery thread
In case anyone else is interested... I heard from a very distinguished lace teacher and she says the DMC Machine Embroidery thread is superior to the Madiera that I have, and well worth the search, but it is practically impossible for her to obtain in England. I was sort of hoping that it would turn out it wasn't worth the search, but she says that it is her favorite for hinjosa and Idrija lace. Sigh. Privately, I have heard that it is obtainable from Createforless.com, and http://www.discountembroiderysupply.com/Dmc-Cotton-Machine-Embroidery-Thread -Recommended-By-Sharon-Schamber. The Createforless.com site might be easier to use because it shows the colors with the numbers. Amazon also lists it, but when you look closely, you can see that they are really sending you to Create for Less. With any of these sites it would probably help to have the lovely color chart brochure available from DMC because that is the only way of seeing all the colors arranged by shade. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Textile Day, Scarborough, Maine
INDOORs Textile Day in Maine Just in case there is someone interested in lace within driving distance of the Scarborough Public Library, 48 Gorham Road, Scarborough, Maine (south of Portland, off Route 1): Textile Day is this coming Saturday, March 21, from 10:30 am to 3:30 pm. Please come out of your Winter retreats to meet Lacemakers of Maine with our Bobbin Lace/Tatting, and other people with Spinning, Weaving, Needle Felting, Rug Hooking, Penny Rug Stitching, Quilting, Kumihimo, Knitting, Crocheting, Embroidery, and much more! Be aware it will be quite crowded. No admission charge. Information at _www.scarboroughlibrary.org_ (http://www.scarboroughlibrary.org) If you are within traveling distance, the Lacemakers of Maine plan to be in the first room on the right. There will be a couple try-me pillows, and an emphasis on contemporary (modern) laces. There is a large 3-dimensional piece that will be on our exhibit table. Our members have been working on this for months under the direction of Tess Parrish. Colorful, and fun. Barbara, Elaine, Ingrid, Tess, and Vi will be demonstrating and teaching. Johanna, in Canada, also participated in the group project. Elaine will have small tatted items to sell. I will tag along with a pile of books from various nations (Czech Rep./Denmark, England, Estonia, France, Germany, The Netherlands, Spain, U.S.) that feature modern laces. If you never get to see such books in a local library in Maine/New Hampshire, come along to meet me and see what is available from specialist book dealers. If you are from a nation not mentioned, and want to suggest a book that fits the criteria - bobbin/modern, please drop me a private note. I'll include, if it is in my library. We hope to meet some of you there. If there is any doubt due to stormy weather as to whether this event will still be held, contact the library directly on Saturday or consult their web site, before leaving home. The library is the sponsor. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
Hello Devon and everyone You could broaden the search to any long-staple 100% cotton thread for machine embroidery and machine quilting (incidentally good for bobbin lace). Have Brenda's thread book at hand to compare wraps of the brands. For the fine threads, there is leeway either side of your base thread to use comparable threads. DMC machine 50 is 42 wraps and I use Mettler 60/2, at 46 wraps, with the DMC brand, or instead of it, depending on the project. HTH On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:32 AM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: I called a quilting store that I know of, but they only have hand quilting thread. I asked the quilting store lady about whether she -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Searching for DMC Broder Machine in colors
PS - include stores that sell sewing./serger machines in your search. They often have threads that are good for bobbin lace. You could broaden the search to any long-staple 100% cotton thread for machine embroidery and machine quilting (incidentally good for bobbin lace). ... -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
