Re: [lace] From a newbie to lace.....

2005-09-30 Thread Claire Allen
Unfortunately the lacemaking world is not large enough for the big  
publishers to consider it worthwhile to keep these books in print.  
However, Batsford do seem to be re issuing quite a few recently and  
commissioning new ones, so maybe they have got the hint.


I bought my issue of that Tonder book only a few years ago for £12.50  
second hand but in Mint condition from a book dealer. I think perhaps  
the purchaser of this book on ebay must have either been;


a, really desperate to have that book
b, have more money than they know what to do with
c,not got the time or inclination to look further afield for the title.

Please don't be discouraged, there are a lot of books available,out  
there.


Regards

Claire
Kent,UK

On 30 Sep 2005, at 5:13:am, Tracie Tyler wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but why are so many of the lace books out of  
print?





It would seem to me that if we wanted this to be passed on that we  
would

not the books to be so difficult or expensive to get..



I am starting to feel discouraged.  I do have a few books that I was
able to purchase, but how could I spread the word so to speak if
getting the information is too hard to come by for people after me?



As always,

Tracie   who still needs to connect with a local group in the
Sacramento, CA area.I know there is one in the Bay Area but as a  
newbie

to IOLI I have not yet received my directory.

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[lace] From a newbie to lace ......

2005-09-30 Thread Jean Nathan
Some of the older books are now considered so old-fashioned that they 
wouldn't be reprinted, others are classics and do get reprinted. In the Uk 
the main publisher is Batsford (now under the umbrella oc Chrysalis Books):


http://www.chrysalisbooks.co.uk/category/lace/index.jsp

Secondhand books can often be tracked down through Abebooks:

http://www.abebooks.com  - better to deal through the actual sellers than 
through the site. Local secondhand bookshops, charity shops and well-known 
secondhand dealers like Todmorton Books are also worth a look.


Ebay can be a good source - books on there seem to go in fashions and if 
you're patient and wait until no-one else is interested, you can often pick 
up a book for a few pounds/dollars even with the postage added. I got a copy 
of Underwood's Bedfordshire lace book for a friend for GBP4.00 when only a 
couple of weeks previously it had been selling for more than GBP12.00.


A couple of Arachne members have done brief reviews of books on their web 
sites so you can get an idea of what they're about and what someone else 
thinks. The lacefairy, and I think (Weronika) plus a couple of other which 
don't spring to mind at this time of the morning. Anyone help here?


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK



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Re: [lace] From a newbie to lace ......

2005-09-30 Thread Steph Peters
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:24:50 +0100, Jean wrote:
In the Uk 
the main publisher is Batsford (now under the umbrella oc Chrysalis Books):
My impression is that the (relatively) new owners of Batsford have realised
that they still have the rights to older lace books that would sell, and are
working their way through the backlist reprinting the ones they think will
do well.

A couple of Arachne members have done brief reviews of books on their web 
sites so you can get an idea of what they're about and what someone else 
thinks. The lacefairy, and I think (Weronika) plus a couple of other which 
don't spring to mind at this time of the morning. Anyone help here?
My website hosts the collective views of arachne members about beginner
books at:
http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/begbook.htm
and on books for beginners to Bucks Point at:
http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/bucks.htm
Don't worry about these lists having been compiled a long time ago; a lot of
the books can still be found in libraries even if they are out of print.
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Re: [lace] From a newbie to lace ......

2005-09-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster

On 30 Sep 2005, at 18:16, Steph Peters wrote:



A couple of Arachne members have done brief reviews of books on their 
web
sites so you can get an idea of what they're about and what someone 
else
thinks. The lacefairy, and I think (Weronika) plus a couple of other 
which

don't spring to mind at this time of the morning. Anyone help here?

My website hosts the collective views of arachne members about beginner
books at:
http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/begbook.htm
and on books for beginners to Bucks Point at:
http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/bucks.htm
Don't worry about these lists having been compiled a long time ago; a 
lot of
the books can still be found in libraries even if they are out of 
print.


and mine has a list of books that I personally have found useful; 
though it hasn't been reviewed for absolutely ages!  The last updated 
bit at the bottom of the page is actually the date the whole website 
was migrated to Orpheus from the old Argonet address (which is now 
defunct)

http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/bibliography.html

Brenda
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/

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[lace] From a newbie to lace.....

2005-09-29 Thread Tracie Tyler
Pardon my ignorance, but why are so many of the lace books out of print?


 

It would seem to me that if we wanted this to be passed on that we would
not the books to be so difficult or expensive to get..

 

I am starting to feel discouraged.  I do have a few books that I was
able to purchase, but how could I spread the word so to speak if
getting the information is too hard to come by for people after me?

 

As always, 

Tracie   who still needs to connect with a local group in the
Sacramento, CA area.I know there is one in the Bay Area but as a newbie
to IOLI I have not yet received my directory.  

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Re: [lace] From a newbie to lace.....

2005-09-29 Thread Barbara Joyce
Tracie, I'm very happy to know that you are a member of IOLI, which has a
wonderful library of books and other media available for loan to its
members. The publications are listed in the directory (which you are
patiently awaiting, but which will probably not be sent to you until
December or January), and is also posted on the IOLI web site
http://www.internationaloldlacers.org/-- click on libraries. Complete
instructions are given for borrowing items.

So while I can't speak to the question of why some books aren't being
reprinted, there is a way for you to have access to them for only the cost
of postage.

Barbara Joyce
Snoqualmie, WA
USA

 Pardon my ignorance, but why are so many of the lace books out of print?

 It would seem to me that if we wanted this to be passed on that we would
 not the books to be so difficult or expensive to get..
 
 I am starting to feel discouraged.  I do have a few books that I was
 able to purchase, but how could I spread the word so to speak if
 getting the information is too hard to come by for people after me?
 
 As always, 
 
 Tracie   who still needs to connect with a local group in the
 Sacramento, CA area.I know there is one in the Bay Area but as a newbie
 to IOLI I have not yet received my directory.

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Re: [lace] From a newbie to lace.....

2005-09-29 Thread TwoHappyBees
In a message dated 09/30/2005 12:14:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 Pardon my ignorance, but why are so many of the lace books out of print? 

Welcome to the lace world, Tracie!   It *is* frustrating that our books are 
often quite expensive and frequently do go out of print much too soon.  
Barbara's suggestion is a very good solution to both problems:  the only cost 
is 
postage (and IOLI membership, of course) and the collection is very 
comprehensive. 
 The reason lace books often do not stay in print is because there simply 
aren't enough of us to buy themanother reason we need to make more 
lacemakers.i.e. teach more people to make lace!  The (now defunct) Lace 
Magazine 
International used to print in each issue that every lacemaker had the 
responsibility to teach at least seven new people to make lace.  If we all did 
that, 
we might keep more books in print...simply by increasing the demand.   As to 
your question re: the cost, many of the books are imported (to the US anyway) 
and this, along with the smallish print run, contributes to the 
cost...especially now since the US dollar is so weak.  Not much we can do about 
that at the 
momentbut it tends to be cyclical and should eventually improve.  And.I 
know there are lacemakers in the Sacramento areaif no one else chimes in, 
I will get some names for you but don't have any handy at the moment.

Happy Lacing.this list is a wonderful resource for newbies as well as 
those of us who aren't such newbies anymore.  I call it (along with the chat 
list) the Oracle g.  I don't think there's a question one can pose that 
someone on one of the lists can't answer! g

Vicki in Maryland who has probably set a personal record for most posts in a 
single evening...but is now going to bed where she belongs! 

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