Re: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
On 10/10/10 10:25 AM, Darlene Wainwright wrote: I don't think painter's masking tape would leave a residue. I learned the hard way that if you leave masking tape on longer than a painter would, the glue sort of cures and becomes harder to get off than glue that's meant to be permanent. Fortunately, I learned it by taping a poster to a glass window for a few days, so a razor blade took it off. Sticky-note tape (used to be called "repositionable correction tape"; now that typewriters are obsolete, they call it "cover-up tape") probably wouldn't leave a visible residue, but I wouldn't use it on anything that wasn't intended to be washed. I haven't noticed stains on my sewing patterns, altered with sticky-note tape, but I don't care about stains on the patterns and haven't been looking. -- Joy Beeson http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/ http://home.comcast.net/~debeeson/DaveCam/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's a lovely fall day. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Re: tying thread on bobbins
Many of you have mentioned that you started off tying onto the bobbin and your hitch doesn't hold. Now you do not tie and your hitch does hold. What is the correlation? What does one part have to do with the other? What am I missing or am I missunderstanding that it really doesn't matter if you tie/not tie, hitch doesn't work/does work? I have wound bobbins just holding the thread and winding. Hitch still acts the same whether I have the starting thread tied or not to the bobbin. The hitch is either persnickety and keeps unhitching and I try a different hitch or it stays put. Some of you have mentioned that you can't get the knot undone after you are finished with the bobbin or need to reload. I haven't tried to untie it. That seems a bit tedious(there is that word we don't like!) Just snip close at the knot almost right on it and only an inch of thread is wasted. I use my fingernail and pluck at the thread still around the neck and the knot comes loose. I even do this with honitons and fine thread. Never had a problem. I don't try to get the scissor point between the knot and neck. I can see how a neck would possibly be scarred. Adele, what a horrible thing to happen to break a neck just to get a knot out. To each his/her own. ;) -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
I don't think painter's masking tape would leave a residue. I think I'd rather use a bobbin with some left over yarn and tie to that though. Darlene Wainwright darlen...@xplornet.com On 10/9/10, C Johnson wrote: > A piece of tape might leave some residue...not sure I like that > idea...but worth pursuing. > > Thanks > Susie > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
Could do, although it would be a secure anchor, longterm and knotless. It was just a thought and might appeal to someone, for whatever reason. While working at the pillow this morning, I was thinking that most how-to books do not mention knotting the thread to the bobbin, that any I recall assume the lacemaker will trap the end with subsequent winds. On 10/9/10, Jane Partridge wrote: > ... but wouldn't have thought > it would work on a bobbin - more likely to cause hassle as it would trap > several layers of thread wrapped round the neck, rather than just the > beginning? -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
In message , bev walker writes I suppose if one knew one's habits, one could apply a tiny bit of a hooks-and-eye dot (the hooks part - thank you Jane Partridge) to the neck of one's bobbins and use that to anchor the thread. I use that for getting hair out of plugholes, but wouldn't have thought it would work on a bobbin - more likely to cause hassle as it would trap several layers of thread wrapped round the neck, rather than just the beginning? I never knot threads onto bobbins before I start winding - always trap the first half inch or so under subsequent winds, as I was taught, and haven't had any problems with that. If the hitch slips, it is probable that the hitch was made in the wrong direction, though occasionally with springy thread it will come off (but if that is the case I use my hook bobbins where possible). If the thread is coming to the end at the end of a piece, and looks to be enough to finish, then I'll tie a bit of another thread on to hold it on the bobbin. I twist new threads in, but only the number of twists of the stitch before (taking the twists off and re-twisting with the new thread in place). Once, when I was using a very expensive tubular silk thread, and only needed an inch or so on each bobbin (for the purple tufts of a thistle in Honiton I was making as a brooch) I threaded the small lengths of silk thread onto lengths of Perle 8 cotton and used that to hold it on the bobbins - then once the lace had been worked, removed the support threads. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
I 'tie' the thread on with a slip knot/noose. I can then use the thread until it is just the length of the 'leader' and then add a new one along side. Simple and efficient! At first I just wrapped around the tail; I don't remember how many bobbins I chased down before I caught on that there was an easier way!!! However, that said I respect anyone's choice to just wrap over the tail of thread. This is a most interesting discussion, Lorri > > I am finding this little thread of "to tie or KNOT to tie"(pun intended) > your thread onto the bobbin really intriguing. What are the reasons you tie > or not to your bobbins? > > For me it was that is what I was taught and it stuck with me. My lace > teacher was unconventional and didn't do things strickly by the book. She > used her own ingenuity to solve her problems. > > Also as I explained earlier, I run out of thread and try to get the most out > of it until I have to work in another full bobbin. This was before the > invention of those trusty hook/clamp bobbins. Only have one and haven't > used it yet! > > -- > Mark, aka Tatman - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
Yes it might leave adhesive on the bobbin neck although that can be sanded off. It is an idea as an option for someone who isn't confident with the loose thread method, and can't handle knots. Whatever works... I suppose if one knew one's habits, one could apply a tiny bit of a hooks-and-eye dot (the hooks part - thank you Jane Partridge) to the neck of one's bobbins and use that to anchor the thread. On 10/9/10, C Johnson wrote: > A piece of tape might leave some residue...not sure I like that idea...but > worth pursuing. > > Thanks > Susie > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
A piece of tape might leave some residue...not sure I like that idea...but worth pursuing. Thanks Susie Susie Johnson Morris, IL 815-942-1838 http://home.comcast.net/~cjohnson0969/home.html cjohnson0...@comcast.net HELP STOP SPAM-Remove all email addresses and use BCC when you forward messages. -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of bev walker Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 4:09 PM To: Tatman Cc: Lace list Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins As others have mentioned, a leader cord around the bobbin is useful for tying short ends of your lace thread of choice. Yes tying the thread to the bobbin works but I think it should be the option, not the other way around (you could also use a tiny piece of tape) On 10/8/10, Tatman wrote: > Also as I explained earlier, I run out of thread and try to get the most out > of it until I have to work in another full bobbin. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
I do this too, a handful of bobbins with leftover thread are very useful for eking out a too-short thread. I'd love to use hackle-pliers, but don't have any yet and my lace-materials budget this year is precisely zero so I'm using what I already have and making sure I don't waste anything... Beth in Cheshire, NW England On Friday 08 October 2010, you wrote: > I have some spare bobbins with thread left on them and when using short > lengths of thread - for example, doing Christmas decorations or the gimp in > a bookmark, I tie my short length of thread to the existing thread. I > especially do this when getting beginners to do the Springett Snake. > > I don't like thread tied to bare bobbins, too much trouble to get the off. > > Noelene in Cooma > nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au > > > I am finding this little thread of "to tie or KNOT to tie"(pun intended) > > your thread onto the bobbin really intriguing. What are the reasons you > > tie > > > or not to your bobbins? > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Noelene Lafferty wrote: > I have some spare bobbins with thread left on them and when using short > lengths of thread - for example, doing Christmas decorations or the gimp in > a bookmark, I tie my short length of thread to the existing thread. I > especially do this when getting beginners to do the Springett Snake. > > I don't like thread tied to bare bobbins, too much trouble to get the off. Nothing to add, nothing to take away (as we used to say in Poland). That's what I do, too, and for the same reason. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
As others have mentioned, a leader cord around the bobbin is useful for tying short ends of your lace thread of choice. Yes tying the thread to the bobbin works but I think it should be the option, not the other way around (you could also use a tiny piece of tape) On 10/8/10, Tatman wrote: > Also as I explained earlier, I run out of thread and try to get the most out > of it until I have to work in another full bobbin. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
I started out tying. When you're a beginner there are so many occasions when your hitch undoes itself and your bobbin suddenly leaps off your pillow and clatters onto the floor, and it helps so much if you can just haul it in again on its little tether. Then I found out what a pain it is to try to get the tied bit off the shank. It's not so bad if you're using heavy thread, but I had thin thread and couldn't get my scissors between the thread and the bobbin. Trying to break it off cost me a bobbin when the neck broke before the thread did. I tried making a slip knot in the way that it would pull itself open if you pulled on the thread, but I found that it was just so much easier and faster if I didn't tie a knot at all. So I started not tying, which is my usual practice now that my hitches are reliable. But it's funny this topic came up just now, because only this morning I tied a thread onto a bobbin. Why? Because it's a gimp going around a little half-stitch circle, and I know I'm only going to use a couple of inches of thread, and I didn't want to waste three or four times that by having to wrap the thread around the bobbin enough times that it wouldn't come undone on its own. It's a thick thread (DMC Broder Speciale #16) and would need quite a few wraps to make it stay put. So in the end I suppose you could look at it this way: The thicker the thread, the more likely the hitch will come undone, and the thicker the thread the easier it is to get a scissors point between thread and bobbin. So tying the thread onto your bobbin gets more desirable as the thread gets thicker. Just my 2 cents. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On 2010-10-08, at 1:21 PM, Tatman wrote: > I am finding this little thread of "to tie or KNOT to tie"(pun intended) > your thread onto the bobbin really intriguing. What are the reasons you tie > or not to your bobbins? > > For me it was that is what I was taught and it stuck with me. My lace > teacher was unconventional and didn't do things strickly by the book. She > used her own ingenuity to solve her problems. > > Also as I explained earlier, I run out of thread and try to get the most out > of it until I have to work in another full bobbin. This was before the > invention of those trusty hook/clamp bobbins. Only have one and haven't > used it yet! > > -- > Mark, aka Tatman > website: http://www.tat-man.net > blog: http://tat-man.net/blog > Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html > email: tat...@tat-man.net > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
I have some spare bobbins with thread left on them and when using short lengths of thread - for example, doing Christmas decorations or the gimp in a bookmark, I tie my short length of thread to the existing thread. I especially do this when getting beginners to do the Springett Snake. I don't like thread tied to bare bobbins, too much trouble to get the off. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au > > I am finding this little thread of "to tie or KNOT to tie"(pun intended) > your thread onto the bobbin really intriguing. What are the reasons you tie > or not to your bobbins? > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Re: Tying thread on bobbins
I am finding this little thread of "to tie or KNOT to tie"(pun intended) your thread onto the bobbin really intriguing. What are the reasons you tie or not to your bobbins? For me it was that is what I was taught and it stuck with me. My lace teacher was unconventional and didn't do things strickly by the book. She used her own ingenuity to solve her problems. Also as I explained earlier, I run out of thread and try to get the most out of it until I have to work in another full bobbin. This was before the invention of those trusty hook/clamp bobbins. Only have one and haven't used it yet! -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
