[lace] What is it made of? Ivory

2019-10-09 Thread brido11
Hi Roberta,

Firstly I have written an article "What is it made of"  on Web docs.  It is
pretty detailed.  ( avoid the destructive tests)
https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/webdocs/lb_matrl.pdf  Find my
name by scrolling then find the article (others know easier ways!!)

I wrote that a long time ago, it is still valid, but what I do is look for a
"Grain" on ivory as opposed to lines and perhaps holes in bone. I could add
look for a proper, nice grain.  Bone marks are crude lines and rough
compared with the nice grain finish and look of ivory. I often use a
magnifying glass.

That will be a good start.  Once you find some real ivory and looked at it
carefully the difference between it and bone will be comparatively easy.

Best guess is to assume that all bobbins are bone... there are but few
exceptions.

I hope that is helpful

Regards
Brian


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Re: [lace] What is it?

2013-01-29 Thread scotlace
When I looked at the picture my first reaction was that is was a kind of
needle holder for an embroiderer using several colours.  By having needles
threaded in the required colours it was quick and easy to switch.


Modern holders are flat and, I think, magnetic.  I've only seen them in
photographs but they are designed for a quick change from one colour to
another.

Patricia in Wales




That translation seems to imply it was a scissor type of needle holder.  The
points of the needles seem to pushed in to a piece on the scissors, and to
get one out - one opens the scissors, and removes a needle.

Very odd!!!

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Re: [lace] What is it?

2013-01-28 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Liz and everyone

Oh that Bing ;)
When I read the title, "Ciseaux Aiguilles de Dentellière ..." etc. I
translated that as Needlelace Scissors, rare and unusual.
In the later description, 'old' is added...
Then this is intriguing:
"En creux Breveté SGDG et REPAI??. Bel état." possibly "Engraved with
the patent/licence SGDG and REPAI?? [hard to read on the tool?!]. Good
condition."

They look like a specialty tool from a textile manufactory.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote:

> I put the French explanation into my Bing Translator and came up with :-
>
> " Old scissors needle holder lacemaker. Not found and unusual."  Make of
> that what you will!!
>
> That translation seems to imply it was a scissor type of needle holder.
>  The
> points of the needles seem to pushed in to a piece on the scissors, and to
> get one out - one opens the scissors, and removes a needle.
>
> Very odd!!!
>
> --
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Canada

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[lace] What is it?

2013-01-28 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I put the French explanation into my Bing Translator and came up with :-

" Old scissors needle holder lacemaker. Not found and unusual."  Make of
that what you will!!

That translation seems to imply it was a scissor type of needle holder.  The
points of the needles seem to pushed in to a piece on the scissors, and to
get one out - one opens the scissors, and removes a needle.

Very odd!!!

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2013-01-28 Thread Adele Shaak
Lyn wrote:

> The points at the end with the eye give pause.

When I was studying embroidery, at one point I needed to couch gold threads to
cover a large surface area. I developed a technique where I used a needle with
the point on the same end as the eye to do faster and more accurate couching
than is possible by the way that is usually explained in books.

Working from the back, I pushed the needle part-way through the cloth so it
stuck out on the right side. Then I passed the decorative thread I was
couching between the trailing thread and the needle, then pulled the needle
back through the cloth. I used sewing machine needles because those were the
only ones I could find that were pointed at the eye end, and they worked
really well.

Perhaps this rig did something similar, several rows at a time.

Adele
North Vancouver BC
(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2013-01-28 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Sorry,
I put in the wrong number therefore I found something else
Ilske

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2013-01-28 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Laurie,
if you enlarge it are Maltese crosses to see. But the photo isn't good enough 
to see the rest clearly.

Ilske

Am 28.01.2013 um 13:33 schrieb Laurie Waters:

> I'm completely stumped. What is this? Ebay item 230919293913
> 
> Laurie
> 
> http://lacenews.net
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Re: [lace] what is it?

2013-01-28 Thread David C COLLYER

At 11:33 PM 28/01/2013, Laurie Waters wrote:

I'm completely stumped. What is this? Ebay item 230919293913


Laurie,
it looks like it must be some sort of tool to help with sewings I'd reckon.
David in Ballarat, AUS

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[lace] what is it?

2013-01-28 Thread Laurie Waters
I'm completely stumped. What is this? Ebay item 230919293913

Laurie

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2011-03-06 Thread J-D Hammett

Hi,

I think it may be part of the winding mechanism for industrial weaving 
bobbins. As Avital states, there is a clear picture on 
www.fletcherindustries.com   but not much further info given.


Joepie, in cold, windy East Sussex

From: Avital
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:36 AM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] what is it?

It's a shuttle for an industrial loom. Fletcher Industries still
exists and there's a photo of this type of shuttle on their home page.
I sometimes wonder whether it ever occurs to these sellers to try
Google!

http://www.fletcherindustries.com/

Avital

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:51 PM,   wrote:

Anyone have a clue what this ebay item is 160554853139 ?

Laurie

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2011-03-05 Thread Avital
It's a shuttle for an industrial loom. Fletcher Industries still
exists and there's a photo of this type of shuttle on their home page.
I sometimes wonder whether it ever occurs to these sellers to try
Google!

http://www.fletcherindustries.com/

Avital

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:51 PM,   wrote:
> Anyone have a clue what this ebay item is 160554853139 ?
>
> Laurie
>
> http://lacenews.net
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Re: [lace] what is it?

2011-03-05 Thread bev walker
A device for making 'lace' such as shoelaces? As a contraption it
reminds me of a small rope-making machine.

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> Anyone have a clue what this ebay item is 160554853139 ?
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Re: [lace] what is it?

2011-03-05 Thread Cindy Rusak
Hi Laurie,

I think it is some kind of weaving shuttle - a lace weaving shuttle maybe?
I saw quite a number of these at antique markets when I lived in Wisconsin
and they always had silk or rayon thread on the spool.  I'm sure someone
else will have the definitive answer.

Cheers,
Cindy Rusak, in snowy Bracebridge, Ontario, Canada

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2011-03-05 Thread Edith Holmes

On 05/03/2011 21:51, lswaters...@comcast.net wrote:

Anyone have a clue what this ebay item is 160554853139 ?

Laurie

http://lacenews.net

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There are some very similar items on Fletcher Industries website, they 
have various categories, none of which is lace making


Edith
North Nottinghamshire

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[lace] what is it?

2011-03-05 Thread lswaters619
Anyone have a clue what this ebay item is 160554853139 ? 

Laurie 

http://lacenews.net 

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RE: [lace] what is it?

2010-07-11 Thread deanna7 Cohen
>
> What's a Crazy Daisy Winder? I've tried a quick internet search and can't
> find anything. Just curious.
>
> Lesley
>



check out this link:


http://blisstree.com/look/gadget-review-crazy-daisy-winder/



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Re: [lace] what is it?

2010-07-11 Thread Sue Duckles
In England they're known as flower looms, and the instructions shown  
on ebay are for a flower loom.


Sue in EY
On 11 Jul 2010, at 10:21, Lesley Blackshaw wrote:


Laurie Waters wrote:

Does anyone recognize this? It isn't a Crazy Daisy winder.



What's a Crazy Daisy Winder?  I've tried a quick internet search and  
can't find anything.  Just curious.


Lesley


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Re: [lace] what is it?

2010-07-11 Thread Lesley Blackshaw

Laurie Waters wrote:

Does anyone recognize this? It isn't a Crazy Daisy winder.



What's a Crazy Daisy Winder?  I've tried a quick internet search and can't 
find anything.  Just curious.


Lesley

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2010-07-10 Thread Laceandbits
This is a child's circular knitting machine, see 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Character-Options-07525-Knitting-Machine/dp/B0001RFCI2 
for a modern version.  
As you say, nothing like a daisy wheel, but hey, I've got this 'thing' and 
I've got some instructions, so they must belong together.

At least it's not listed as a lace bobbin.

Jacquie In Lincolnshire

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2010-07-10 Thread Cindy
I agree, it does look like one of the tubular knitting machines.  And not a 
very fine one at that, I would think it is for bulky yarn, unless it is much 
smaller then it appears to me. 

Cindy from Dallas, TX
RavelryID: cinhad
Blog: http://knittingyards.wordpress.com/ (updated 6/6/2010)

On Jul 10, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Vicki Bradford wrote:

> From: Laurie Waters 
> Does anyone recognize this? It isn't a Crazy Daisy winder. Ebay 120593750944
> 
> It looks to be like some sort of tubular knitting machine, working on the 
> same principle as the French knitting spool, but with many more points.  I 
> have a small version like this with six points. As you turn the crank, the 
> points or pins go up and down to enable the stitches to be made.

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2010-07-10 Thread Vicki Bradford

From: Laurie Waters 
Does anyone recognize this? It isn't a Crazy Daisy winder. Ebay 
120593750944


It looks to be like some sort of tubular knitting machine, working on 
the same principle as the French knitting spool, but with many more 
points.  I have a small version like this with six points. As you turn 
the crank, the points or pins go up and down to enable the stitches to 
be made.


Vicki in Maryland, sitting on the patio and finally enjoying some 
relief from 90-100F degree temps!


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Re: [lace] what is it?

2010-07-10 Thread Barb ETx

Interesstigwish I had a loose $16.70 to blow on it.  Might be fun..
BarbE 


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[lace] what is it?

2010-07-10 Thread Laurie Waters

Does anyone recognize this? It isn't a Crazy Daisy winder. Ebay 120593750944
Thanks,
Laurie

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[lace] Re: [lace] What is it?

2010-01-22 Thread kloeppelki...@t-online.de
It is a pillow for Needle lace, I think.

Greetings,
Gabriele friom Germany

-Original Message-
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:25:49 +0100
Subject: [lace] What is it?
From: "Laurie Waters" 
To: 

This interesting item is described as Klöppelständer mit Klöppelkissen
but
it doesn't look like any Germany pillow and stand that I've seen. Does
anyone recognize it?
Ebay  item 300387242843
Thanks,
Laurie

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Re: [lace] What is it?

2010-01-22 Thread Clay Blackwell
Well, I suppose someone might be able to work a small motif on the tiny 
little pillow, but it would be awkward, with that post sticking up 
between your knees...  and 100 years ago, I suspect that might have 
raised a few eyebrows.  On the other hand, perhaps it was meant to serve 
the same function as a sewing bird?


Clay

On 1/22/2010 7:25 AM, Laurie Waters wrote:
This interesting item is described as Klöppelständer mit Klöppelkissen 
but it doesn't look like any Germany pillow and stand that I've seen. 
Does anyone recognize it?

Ebay  item 300387242843
Thanks,
Laurie

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[lace] What is it?

2010-01-22 Thread Laurie Waters
This interesting item is described as Klöppelständer mit Klöppelkissen but 
it doesn't look like any Germany pillow and stand that I've seen. Does 
anyone recognize it?

Ebay  item 300387242843
Thanks,
Laurie

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Re: [lace] what is it?

2008-12-11 Thread Cindy Rusak
Hi Laurie,

With my limited French, I think the seller is suggesting that the
machine was used to measure lace.  However, I wonder if it is a
mangler?  We've had discussions previously on Arachne about mangling
lace so maybe someone else knows better.

Good luck,
Cindy

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> Anyone have any idea what this item is on Ebay? 130274106618
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[lace] what is it?

2008-12-11 Thread Laurie Waters

Anyone have any idea what this item is on Ebay? 130274106618

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[lace] What is it?

2008-03-05 Thread Jean Nathan
I have a wooden handled pin vice in the same style as this one. I bought 
bent needles for a lazy susan to clamp them in from Tim Parker. Every time I 
tried to bend my own they broke.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] What is it?

2008-03-05 Thread Diana Smith
Could it be for wig making - I remember some years ago I think it was Mr 
Hornsby had hooks for sale.
I still have one which is curved - though of course this has an eye not a 
hook - ho hum!


Diana in Northamptonshire


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I hope you'll all forgive me if I argue with myself here!  I just looked at 
the item again, and the seller calles it a "Oeil Magique".  DUH!!  That 
tells me that in all probability, there *IS* an eye there, and this is what 
we call a "Lazy Susan".


Clay

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-- Original message -- 
From: "Sue Babbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



> Hi Laurie,
> This looks like a vice to hold the pins/needles below it.


Possibly a seriously mishandled pricker! Where all the pricking needles 
have

got badly bent! Grin!

More sensibly - I think Clay is right
< I agree, it's for sewings. With an eye, it's a Lazy Susan, without an
eye, it's a needlepin. I'm betting there are no eyes on these. The 
purists
try to teach us to do the sewings with a needlepin, not with the more 
modern

Lazy Susan.>

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Re: [lace] What is it?

2008-03-04 Thread robinlace
 Laurie Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Anybody have any idea what item 290209323102  on Ebay is?


The big piece appears to be a vice for the pins/needles below.  The name 
translates (I believe) as "Magic Eye" so I'd bet it's an "eyes out" for making 
sewings.  That would be a needle with the point in the handle and the eye-end 
at the tip.  Put a thread through the eye and knot it.  Then you poke the 
eye-and-thread through where the sewing goes, pull the thread farther through 
and drop a bobbin through the loop (between the thread and the needle).  Pull 
needle-and-thread out and keep pulling.  The bobbin thread is pulled through 
and then remove the eyes out .  You can drop the other bobbin through the loop 
in the first bobbin's thread and tension 

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA

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Re: [lace] What is it?

2008-03-04 Thread clayblackwell
I hope you'll all forgive me if I argue with myself here!  I just looked at the 
item again, and the seller calles it a "Oeil Magique".  DUH!!  That tells me 
that in all probability, there *IS* an eye there, and this is what we call a 
"Lazy Susan".

Clay

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-- Original message -- 
From: "Sue Babbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> > Hi Laurie, 
> > This looks like a vice to hold the pins/needles below it. 
> 
> 
> Possibly a seriously mishandled pricker! Where all the pricking needles have 
> got badly bent! Grin! 
> 
> More sensibly - I think Clay is right 
> < I agree, it's for sewings. With an eye, it's a Lazy Susan, without an 
> eye, it's a needlepin. I'm betting there are no eyes on these. The purists 
> try to teach us to do the sewings with a needlepin, not with the more modern 
> Lazy Susan.> 
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Re: [lace] What is it?

2008-03-04 Thread Sue Babbs

Hi Laurie,
This looks like a vice to hold the pins/needles below it.



Possibly a seriously mishandled pricker! Where all the pricking needles have 
got badly bent! Grin!


More sensibly - I think Clay is right
< I agree, it's for sewings.  With an eye, it's a Lazy Susan, without an 
eye, it's a needlepin.  I'm betting there are no eyes on these.  The purists 
try to teach us to do the sewings with a needlepin, not with the more modern 
Lazy Susan.>


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Re: [lace] What is it?

2008-03-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Laurie,
This looks like a vice to hold the pins/needles below it. What it would be
used for , I have no idea.
Nancy

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RE: [lace] What is it?

2008-03-04 Thread clayblackwell
Hi Jay !

I agree, it's for sewings.  With an eye, it's a Lazy Susan, without an eye, 
it's a needlepin.  I'm betting there are no eyes on these.  The purists try to 
teach us to do the sewings with a needlepin, not with the more modern Lazy 
Susan.

Clay

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> Could it be a tool for making sewings? If there is an eye at the bottom of 
> the curved replaceable pieces it could be a lazy Susan. 
> 
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Re: [lace] What is it?

2008-03-04 Thread clayblackwell
Very interesting!  To me, it looks like several needlepins (with handle), for 
all of those sewings that I avoid!!

The fact that there are three hooks make me think they may be somewhat fragile 
if handled roughly.  There is a finesse to sewings with a needlepin, and 
perhaps the "modern" ones don't have that requisite flexibility.  But 
essentially, *I* just don't have the knack with them, and haven't spent enough 
time practicing.

Thanks for pointing these out!  I'll be interested to hear if those who live by 
the needlepin agree with me.

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RE: [lace] What is it?

2008-03-04 Thread Jay Ekers
Could it be a tool for making sewings?  If there is an eye at the bottom of
the curved replaceable pieces it could be a lazy Susan.

Jay in Sydney
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Anybody have any idea what item 290209323102  on Ebay is?
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RE: [lace] What is it?

2008-03-04 Thread Jay Ekers
Could it be a tool for making sewings?  If there is an eye at the bottom of
the curved replaceable pieces it could be a lazy Susan.

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[lace] What is it?

2008-03-04 Thread Laurie Waters
Anybody have any idea what item 290209323102  on Ebay is?
Laurie

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Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread David in Ballarat

Dear Friends,




 I think this object is probably 1920's or
30's, and if not used in glovemaking, could be from something like the
millinery trade.


Could it perhaps be one of those milliner's "irons" for making 
flowers for hats etc.

David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread David in Ballarat

Dear Friends,
I like the way you think, Bev...  pinning down a date by the 
material used is helpful.  SO...  we could also get away from the 
luxury market and into a more practical market...
With a handle that could be adjusted according to the user's 
preference, this might have been very useful for hand quilting.  The 
depressions allow just enough space for a needle to "purchase air" 
before being turned back upward through the quilt.


My impression was that there is NO handle missing. but that the 
rounded end also screws into the side.

David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread bevw
Neat! This is becoming interesting - although Clay gets a point for
originality - xylophone hammer ;)

I do know that tailoring requires all sorts of specific tools, and you work
with the fabric damp. Maybe this is what the 'tatting' tool really is for.


on that sort of angle. It was used on wool suiting, and opened the inside of
> the seam down the middle.
>
>


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Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread Rochelle Sutherland
Agreed. I think Bev might be on the right track. I seem to recall seeing a 
'something' run along a seam while a seamstress was working on a suit. It might 
have been a school trip demonstration. I was old enough to know about pressing 
seams and I must have seen the result of the seam opening out. It did have a 
handle on that sort of angle. It was used on wool suiting, and opened the 
inside of the seam down the middle. 
 
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No..don't think so.  I just checked out several
webpages on plannishing hammers.  They all refer to
working metal with the hammer...and they usually have
a flat surface, or just gently curved, to impact the
metal surface.  Bakelite would not have been the
material of choice to work metal, and it's shaped
wrong.  I think we have to look elsewhere for the
answer.  Thanks to Terry for trying, though!!

Alice in Oregon


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> Terry walked past as I was puzzling over it and he
> said - it's a 
> plannishing hammer, minus the handle.
> 
> Bakalite would be too brittle for banging anything
> hard, but as it's 
> very small it could just be intended for tapping
> something gently ???

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Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread clayblackwell
Well now...  we ARE all making an assumption that the seller knows what 
bakelite is.  If, in fact, the part that fits on either of the two openings is 
made of something like a hard rubber, (AND it's missing its handle...) then it 
just might be for  wait for it  a musical instrument, such as a 
xylophone?

Clay

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From: Brenda Paternoster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Terry walked past as I was puzzling over it and he said - it's a 
> plannishing hammer, minus the handle. 
> 
> Bakalite would be too brittle for banging anything hard, but as it's 
> very small it could just be intended for tapping something gently ??? 
> 
> Brenda 
> 
> On 14 May 2007, at 20:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> 
> > I like the way you think, Bev... pinning down a date by the material 
> > used is helpful. SO... we could also get away from the luxury market 
> > and into a more practical market... 
> > 
> > With a handle that could be adjusted according to the user's 
> > preference, this might have been very useful for hand quilting. The 
> > depressions allow just enough space for a needle to "purchase air" 
> > before being turned back upward through the quilt. 
> > 
> > What a curiosity. 
> > 
> > Clay 
> > 
> > 
> >> If it is bakelite as the seller suggests, then the object was made no 
> >> earlier than the period when bakelite was invented, 1907 - 1909. 
> >> Given time 
> >> to perfect the marketing of it, I think this object is probably 
> >> 1920's or 
> >> 30's, and if not used in glovemaking, could be from something like the 
> >> millinery trade. 
> >> 
> >> Just another guess :) 
> >> -- 
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Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread Alice Howell
No..don't think so.  I just checked out several
webpages on plannishing hammers.  They all refer to
working metal with the hammer...and they usually have
a flat surface, or just gently curved, to impact the
metal surface.  Bakelite would not have been the
material of choice to work metal, and it's shaped
wrong.  I think we have to look elsewhere for the
answer.  Thanks to Terry for trying, though!!

Alice in Oregon


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> Terry walked past as I was puzzling over it and he
> said - it's a 
> plannishing hammer, minus the handle.
> 
> Bakalite would be too brittle for banging anything
> hard, but as it's 
> very small it could just be intended for tapping
> something gently ???

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Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Terry walked past as I was puzzling over it and he said - it's a 
plannishing hammer, minus the handle.


Bakalite would be too brittle for banging anything hard, but as it's 
very small it could just be intended for tapping something gently ???


Brenda

On 14 May 2007, at 20:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I like the way you think, Bev...  pinning down a date by the material 
used is helpful.  SO...  we could also get away from the luxury market 
and into a more practical market...


With a handle that could be adjusted according to the user's 
preference, this might have been very useful for hand quilting.  The 
depressions allow just enough space for a needle to "purchase air" 
before being turned back upward through the quilt.


What a curiosity.

Clay



If it is bakelite as the seller suggests, then the object was made no
earlier than the period when bakelite was invented, 1907 - 1909. 
Given time
to perfect the marketing of it, I think this object is probably 
1920's or

30's, and if not used in glovemaking, could be from something like the
millinery trade.

Just another guess :)
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Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread clayblackwell
I like the way you think, Bev...  pinning down a date by the material used is 
helpful.  SO...  we could also get away from the luxury market and into a more 
practical market...  

With a handle that could be adjusted according to the user's preference, this 
might have been very useful for hand quilting.  The depressions allow just 
enough space for a needle to "purchase air" before being turned back upward 
through the quilt.  

What a curiosity.

Clay


> If it is bakelite as the seller suggests, then the object was made no 
> earlier than the period when bakelite was invented, 1907 - 1909. Given time 
> to perfect the marketing of it, I think this object is probably 1920's or 
> 30's, and if not used in glovemaking, could be from something like the 
> millinery trade. 
> 
> Just another guess :) 
> -- 
> Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada) 
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Re: [lace] What is it? another guess

2007-05-14 Thread bevw
I had another thought, perhaps it was used to make sharper corners when
turning a sewn square item inside out (such as a collar?). So, another guess
is it is from the tailoring industry.

For reference, here is the ebay number again.
190112149852

When I first saw the picture I thought immediately of my sewing acorn, a
little kit for mending tucked into a wooden acorn.

Lace content: the wedding lace for DS2s fiancée's head band has passed the
12-inch mark. I am aiming to make 24 inches which should be enough,
gathered, to cover the front part of the band. The rest of the band will be
underneath the veil. It is a narrow Buckspoint pattern designed by Sheila
Brown.

bye for now
Bev in Sooke BC (on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread bevw
Hi Alice and everyone

> suggesting.  I wonder if there is a missing piece...
> >  a handle which could be put in either position?


The seller says the 'lid' fits either the end hole or the hole in the side
and yes I think there is a handle missing.

>
> The oval is too wide to fit in a glove finger for
> mending.  At least, it's too wide to fit any of my
>

Although - the tool could be used in leather glove-making for the roundy
gusset bit (I have made all of one-half a pair of fitted gloves - did not
use such a tool though). Then I think always there have been big-handed
people - theirs are the gloves that wear out and are tossed :p

If it is bakelite as the seller suggests, then the object was made no
earlier than the period when bakelite was invented, 1907 - 1909. Given time
to perfect the marketing of it, I think this object is probably 1920's or
30's, and if not used in glovemaking, could be from something like the
millinery trade.

Just another guess :)
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Re: [lace] What is it?

2007-05-14 Thread Alice Howell
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> I have a couple of old darning eggs in different
> sizes, so I immediately understood what you were
> suggesting.  I wonder if there is a missing piece...
>  a handle which could be put in either position?

I questioned the size, and the seller confirmed that
the width is only 15/16" (less than an inch).  He/she
also confirmed that there's two carved out
indentations on the sides towards the end away from
the 'lid'.  They can just be seen in the shadows and
highlights in the picture.

I'm guessing that there was a handle that could be put
in either hole.

The oval is too wide to fit in a glove finger for
mending.  At least, it's too wide to fit any of my
gloves, and people used to have smaller hands than I
have.   There's also no needle scratches on the item. 
I have doubts that it's a darning egg.

Does anyone know if a support like this was ever used
under a needlelace sandwich? I have used my finger to
support my needlelace fabric.  I can visualize using
something like this for a portable support.

Any other guesses?

Alice in Oregon

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Re: [lace] What is it?

2007-05-14 Thread clayblackwell
I have a couple of old darning eggs in different sizes, so I immediately 
understood what you were suggesting.  I wonder if there is a missing piece...  
a handle which could be put in either position?

Clay

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> Here's a picture of a vintage darning egg: 
> 
> http://www.tias.com/13087/InventoryPage/1886912/1.html 

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Re: [lace] What is it?

2007-05-14 Thread Avital

Here's a picture of a vintage darning egg:

http://www.tias.com/13087/InventoryPage/1886912/1.html

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Re: [lace] What is it?

2007-05-14 Thread Avital

Maybe the hole for your finger, to hold the darning egg horizontally
if you are working on a flat area like the back of a glove. There are
indentations that would help one hold the thing upright while darning
a glove finger but obviously they would be of little use when trying
to hold the object horizontally.

Avital

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That sounds like a very good guess, Avital!  It's a fascinating little thing... 
 but what is the hole in the side for?

Clay

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Re: [lace] What is it?

2007-05-14 Thread clayblackwell
That sounds like a very good guess, Avital!  It's a fascinating little thing... 
 but what is the hole in the side for?

Clay

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Re: [lace] What is it?

2007-05-14 Thread spindexr
My guess: a darning egg for gloves. 

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