Re: [lace] Thread help needed
Hi Malvary Schappeseide is just a generic term for schappe silk - which is spun from cocoons which have hatched and have not degummed rather than ordinary spun silk which is spun from the broken bits and pieces left over after reeled/filament/nett silk has been taken from the cocoons. The only silk with a size of 120/2 that I've seen is Bart Francis Shappe which is labelled with a cotton count of 120/2 and the metric number 210/1 - but that is very fine; 45 w/cm, which is not what I would expect to use for a scarf. So, I think that you will have to go back to basics and measure the dot spacing of the pattern to determine how many wraps/cm she needs. Is it a torchon pattern? Brenda in north Kent where it was +29 degrees yesterday and predicted to be the same today. On 2 Oct 2011, at 05:03, Malvary Cole wrote: One of my students wants to make a scarf from the Bellon (sp?) book. It calls for Schappeseide 120/2. I don’t know if this is a brand name or just a generic expression for spun silk. What we need is a suggested number of wraps, so that we can find something equivalent. Thanks for your help. Malvary in Ottawa, Canada where it has turned quite cool +9c today but it is supposed to be warmer by next weekend when I go to Ithaca to the Lace Conference. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Thread help needed
One of my students wants to make a scarf from the Bellon (sp?) book. It calls for Schappeseide 120/2. I donât know if this is a brand name or just a generic expression for spun silk. What we need is a suggested number of wraps, so that we can find something equivalent. Thanks for your help. Malvary in Ottawa, Canada where it has turned quite cool +9c today but it is supposed to be warmer by next weekend when I go to Ithaca to the Lace Conference. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Thread help requested
I am trying to find the wrap count of the following threads: Kantklosgaren Egyptisch Katoen nos. 60/2, 70/2 and 80/2 Aurifil Mako'ne 28/2 Superior threads masterpiece bt Alex Anderson 100% extra long staple Egyptan cotton I was probably told at the time of purchase what the equivalents are but as I didn't write down this information.. Can anyone help, please? Patricia in Wales - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Thread help requested
Hello Patricia, cc everyone on lace list :) The first are 39, 46 and 50 respectively. Aurifil Mako 28/2 is 26 I don't know the last. HTH On 11/5/10, scotl...@aol.com scotl...@aol.com wrote: I am trying to find the wrap count of the following threads: Kantklosgaren Egyptisch Katoen nos. 60/2, 70/2 and 80/2 Aurifil Mako'ne 28/2 Superior threads masterpiece bt Alex Anderson 100% extra long staple Egyptan cotton -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Thread help thanks
Thank you to those who responded. The Aurifil mako is actually a reasonable substitute for the pattern I want to do and now I am quite happy to unwrap it! I could only find my copy of edition 3, not the later ones, which is why I asked the list. Thanks again. Patricia in Wales - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Thread help requested
Superior Threads Masterpiece 50/2 - 2Z 38 it's in Addendum 5 http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/threads/add5.html Brenda On 5 Nov 2010, at 20:32, bev walker wrote: Hello Patricia, cc everyone on lace list :) The first are 39, 46 and 50 respectively. Aurifil Mako 28/2 is 26 I don't know the last. HTH On 11/5/10, scotl...@aol.com scotl...@aol.com wrote: I am trying to find the wrap count of the following threads: Kantklosgaren Egyptisch Katoen nos. 60/2, 70/2 and 80/2 Aurifil Mako'ne 28/2 Superior threads masterpiece bt Alex Anderson 100% extra long staple Egyptan cotton Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Thread help thanks
If you don't have (to hand) the latest edition of Threads for Lace then you need to look at the Addendum lists for the number of the edition that you do have plus all the later ones. Even if you have Edition 5 you still need Addendum 5 to be complete. After that if there is something not included it's because I haven't seen it. Brenda On 5 Nov 2010, at 22:09, scotl...@aol.com wrote: I could only find my copy of edition 3, not the later ones, which is why I asked the list. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] thread help needed
Hello Jane Madeira Decor is a thick rayon floss, 15 wraps/cm and has been in Threads for Lace since Ed 1 (though the size, which is No 6, isn't included!) Metallic 40 is either Madeira 40, a fine wrapped thread, 35 w/cm, or Moravia metallic . another wrapped hread but much thicker at 20 w/cm, or signature SN another wrapped thread, 37 w/cm - or something I haven't seen! The Madeira is the most likely. Brenda On 10 May 2009, at 17:09, Jane O'Connor wrote: Can someone help me with the wraps or thicknesses of these two threads. They come from a 'sGravenmoer pattern and I cannot find them listed in Brenda's book. Madeira Decor number 6 and a metallic thread number 40. I wonder if these are embroidery threads. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] thread help needed
Thanks Brenda. I never thought of looking in the synthetic/rayon threads. Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net New Lenox, IL USA Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. So have fun, think 'good thoughts' only, learn to laugh at yourself and count your blessings! From: Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com To: Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:10:16 PM Subject: Re: [lace] thread help needed Hello Jane Madeira Decor is a thick rayon floss, 15 wraps/cm and has been in Threads for Lace since Ed 1 (though the size, which is No 6, isn't included!) Metallic 40 is either Madeira 40, a fine wrapped thread, 35 w/cm, or Moravia metallic . another wrapped hread but much thicker at 20 w/cm, or signature SN another wrapped thread, 37 w/cm - or something I haven't seen! The Madeira is the most likely. Brenda On 10 May 2009, at 17:09, Jane O'Connor wrote: Can someone help me with the wraps or thicknesses of these two threads. They come from a 'sGravenmoer pattern and I cannot find them listed in Brenda's book. Madeira Decor number 6 and a metallic thread number 40. I wonder if these are embroidery threads. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Thread help
Hello Ann It depends which DMC 50 you mean. DMC Cordonnet 50 is similar thickness to Bouc 50, both are 23 wraps/cm. DMC Coton a Broder is/was finer at 30 wraps/cm and DMC Broder Machine 50 is finer still at 42 wraps/cm. Bev has already listed a number of alternatives to Bouc 70; Bockens linen 60/2 or Fresia linen 80/3 are the nearest. Of the more available cotton threads Presencia Finca 30 and Venus 70 both measure 27 wraps/cm (marginally finer). A single strand of most stranded cottons is 25 wraps/cm or thereabouts but the 2ply soft twist of those threads means that it doesn't have the 'oomph' of a linen thread. Finca is 3ply and Venus is 3x2ply so they both have more body to them. Brenda On 20 Dec 2008, at 20:52, ann.humphreys wrote: I'm sure someone will be able to tell me this. Would DMC 50 be an acceptable equivalent thread to use instead of BOUC 50 linen thread and what would be an alternative to BOUC 70? Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Thread help
I'm sure someone will be able to tell me this. Would DMC 50 be an acceptable equivalent thread to use instead of BOUC 50 linen thread and what would be an alternative to BOUC 70? Ann Yorkshire UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Thread help
Hello Ann and everyone In T4L: DMC 50 and Bouc 50 linen have the same wraps per, of 23. Bouc 70 is 26 wraps, and some equivalents listed are Fresia 80/3, Aurifil Mako long stape 28 wt., Clarks 3 cord merc. cotton 50 J P Coats merc. Cotton 6-cor No. 70 on either side, for instance DMC Broder Special 40 is 25 wraps; Sulky 30 wt. and Coats Sylko 36 are 27 wraps hope this helps? On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:52 PM, ann.humphreys ann.humphr...@talktalk.netwrote: I'm sure someone will be able to tell me this. Would DMC 50 be an acceptable equivalent thread to use instead of BOUC 50 linen thread and what would be an alternative to BOUC 70? -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Thread - help, please?
Dear Lacemakers, I've been away from lacemaking for more than three years - getting in some part-time education meant giving up all but the most vital daily activities. (I think I've always managed to clean my teeth and provide clean shirts for my husband: every other thing has been missed at least once!) Now at last I'm trying to start making lace again, and I thought I'd go back to a favourite of mine, a torchon book-mark. It's simple, one of the first patterns I learned, and I know I've made quite a few over the years for gifts, sales-of-work, and so on. But now I can't work out what the thread is supposed to be, and I can't see anything in my box of thread which seems to be right. So I'm hoping that someone out there will recognise what is meant in the pattern, or tell me an equivalent, or at least tell me how to work out a substitute. The pattern is from Raie Clare's The Dryad Book of Bobbin Lace, the book from which I taught myself . . . quite a long time ago. It was published in 1987, in case that helps. The thread prescribed is Swedish linen thread no. 90. Although I've looked through Ian Austin's chart, and Brenda Paternoster's invaluable booklet, Threads for Lace, there is no mention of a thread with that name, so I'm guessing that it's not a brand name but something generic. This doesn't help me, as I've never been any good at understanding all that business of turns and wraps and deniers. However, I do have quite a lot of thread, (most of it still has the labels attached, too!), so I'm hoping you will be able to help me to find something to wind on my bobbins. After that, it's just a simple matter of throwing the bobbins around, of course . . . Well, I'm grateful to think that I'm sure I can turn to my Arachne friends whenever I come on yet another blank spot in my memory. Yours optimistically, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread - help, please?
Hello Linda Swedish linen almost certainly means Bockens linen. Bockens 90 would suit torchon drafted on a 2mm grid (4mm between footedge pinholes) Brenda On 15 Nov 2008, at 20:55, Linda Walton wrote: The pattern is from Raie Clare's The Dryad Book of Bobbin Lace, the book from which I taught myself . . . quite a long time ago. It was published in 1987, in case that helps. The thread prescribed is Swedish linen thread no. 90. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] thread help please
While I have 5 mins waiting for the family to arrive for lunch I thought that I would write with my question. A friend phoned a couple of days ago with an urgent request for a wedding garter needed by the 12th April !! The only pattern that I have needs DMC Broder Machine 30. Could someone please tell me if there is an equivalent thread that hopefully I will have in my stash? Many thanks in advance and wishing everyone a peaceful and happy Easter, Anne Nicholas Middx. England - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] thread help please
Hello Anne The only pattern that I have needs DMC Broder Machine 30. Could someone please tell me if there is an equivalent thread that hopefully I will have in my stash? Which is no longer made! Other 32 w/cm threads are: Amann Sylko 50 - (3 ply but should be readily available) Brok 36/2 Venne colcotton 70/2 Mettler 50/3 Slightly finer are: Mimosa 60 Valdani 60 wt Guetermann silk 130/3 Slightly thicker: Egyptian gassed 36/2 Tootal Sylko Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Thread help
In an effort to get back my interest in lacemaking I bought Modern Bobbin Lace by Karen Marie Iversen but I'm having trouble with identify the thread she refers to as Lurex 7005 which she describes as translucent. Looking back in the archive Jean said one of her students used a sparkly white thread and that's a possibility along wih one or two others in the 27 w/cm range but if anyone has tried a different thread (or found the original thread) then I'd love to know. Thanks Amanda - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread help
Partly answering my own message, I managed to find a web page from the publisher http://www.akacia.dk/UK/Modern.htm where they give a link to a conversion table for the threads used and also point you to Bart and Francis for the Lurex, trouble is the only method of payment they offer is bank transfer and because we aren't in the euro our banks tend to charge, does anyone know if they take any other method? Thanks Amanda - Original Message - From: Amanda Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: [lace] Thread help In an effort to get back my interest in lacemaking I bought Modern Bobbin Lace by Karen Marie Iversen but I'm having trouble with identify the thread she refers to as Lurex 7005 which she describes as translucent. Looking back in the archive Jean said one of her students used a sparkly white thread and that's a possibility along wih one or two others in the 27 w/cm range but if anyone has tried a different thread (or found the original thread) then I'd love to know. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread help
Hello Amanda This topic came up a while ago. Although Karen Marie Iversen refers to lurex thread, Lurex is a brand name and what she uses is NOT Lurex brand, although it is a metallic. It's one of the finer Madeira metallic threads which she uses; Madeira Art No 9842 comes up several times in the .pdf file - that's Madeira Metallic No 40 (35 w/cm), but also Art No 9807 which is No 6 (18 w/cm) and Art no 9809 which is No 12 (20 w/cm). There are so many different Madeira metallics, but I *think* she uses Supertwist, in white/translucent for the worker pairs. Brenda On 19 Mar 2008, at 16:52, Amanda Richards wrote: Partly answering my own message, I managed to find a web page from the publisher http://www.akacia.dk/UK/Modern.htm where they give a link to a conversion table for the threads used and also point you to Bart and Francis for the Lurex, trouble is the only method of payment they offer is bank transfer and because we aren't in the euro our banks tend to charge, does anyone know if they take any other method? Thanks Amanda - Original Message - From: Amanda Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: [lace] Thread help In an effort to get back my interest in lacemaking I bought Modern Bobbin Lace by Karen Marie Iversen but I'm having trouble with identify the thread she refers to as Lurex 7005 which she describes as translucent. Looking back in the archive Jean said one of her students used a sparkly white thread and that's a possibility along wih one or two others in the 27 w/cm range but if anyone has tried a different thread (or found the original thread) then I'd love to know. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] thread help please
Lucie Ariane 60/2 Coton egyptien mercerise Ne 36/2 (egyptian mercerised cotton) I can't see it in Brenda's book. Probably the easiest way for you to find the wraps per cm, is to wrap some thread round a ruler or pencil or bobbin for 1 cm and count for yourself. If you let me know what the wraps/cm are, I can them find a comparable thread in Brenda's book for you, and let you know the suggested pricking size Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] thread help please
No, I haven't seen that thread (yet!) The way I make a wrapping is to draw the parallel lines exactly 1 cm apart, using the computer, and print out onto paper. Then take a strip of the paper and fold it around a small piece of card so that it's stiff enough to handle and the lines are straight across the width. Wrap so that the threads lie close together, touching but not overlapping and count. I then repeat the winding - if it's the same number that's it, if it's different I rewind again and generally two of the three windings will have given the same result. Brenda On 30 Mar 2007, at 14:31, Sue Babbs wrote: Lucie Ariane 60/2 Coton egyptien mercerise Ne 36/2 (egyptian mercerised cotton) I can't see it in Brenda's book. Probably the easiest way for you to find the wraps per cm, is to wrap some thread round a ruler or pencil or bobbin for 1 cm and count for yourself. If you let me know what the wraps/cm are, I can them find a comparable thread in Brenda's book for you, and let you know the suggested pricking size Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] thread help
Hi, Sorry for the cross posting but I didn't realise until afer I had sent the email, that I had sent it to chat. I would like to make one of the snowflakes from the Lace magazine but am not sure about what thread to use. Could someone please tell me what thread is equivelent to DMC 30 ? My lace class is tomorrow and I would like to start it then so any help is much appreciated !! Brenda's thread book is on my Christmas list so hopefully that will solve future problems !! Many thanks, Anne Nicholas Hanworth Middx. England - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] thread help
Sorry for the cross posting but I didn't realise until afer I had sent the email, that I had sent it to chat. I would like to make one of the snowflakes from the Lace magazine but am not sure about what thread to use. Could someone please tell me what thread is equivelent to DMC 30 ? Hello Anne I've just realised that I sent my reply to chat - should be on lace so here it is again If it's the one on page 26 with beads added, then she means DMC Broder Machine 30. Venne Colcoton 70/2, Brok 36/2, are the nearest 2 plies. Amann Coats Sylko 50 - the regular cotton sewing machine thread which is readily available from many retail outlets is the same thickness, but is 3 ply so will have a bit more 'oomph' and would probably be my choice for that pattern. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] thread help: daliam cotton thread, lace in literature
Hello Julie Daliam cotton is not in Edition 3, or Addendum 3 as I've never seen it! If anyone has some.. Looking at the scale of the pricking, and the picture of the lace, I'd guess that it's some sort of pearl cotton. Also if you measure the average pinhole distance (it comes to 4.5mm) and then look at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/threadsize/threadsize.html you'll see that 10 wraps/pinhole space for that scale needs a thread measured at 22 wraps/cm - give or take a couple of wraps. DMC and Anchor Perle 12 are both 21 w/cm so substitute either of those. That threadsize chart is in Ed 3 instead of the sample prickings. BTW, you do all know that you should look at Addendum 3 from time to time as it gets updates as and when anything different turns up. I bought some more Bart Francis threads yesterday at Tonbridge and Pat gave me a few more Valdani samples; they have just been added. Brenda On 23 Oct 2005, at 23:05, Julie Ourom wrote: Thread help The October pattern in the Lace Guild calendar for a tape lace pumpkin caught my fancy. It's made by a Spanish lacemaker, Maria Jose Jovez and calls for Daliam cotton thread 50 #12. Has anyone ever heard of this thread? I want to use some crochet cotton from my stash and it would help to know approx. what weight it is so I know how to adjust the pricking. So far I haven't been able to track it down. I have only the second edition of Brenda's thread book, and I don't see it there. I'd appreciate it if someone could check to see if it's in the 3rd edition (I need to get a copy) or possibly someone knows of this thread or has used it. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] thread help: daliam cotton thread, lace in literature
Hello all spiders, I have contacted Maria Jose Jover, a fellow lacemaker designer of the tape lace pattern on the Lace Guild Calendar. Dalia is a cotton thread used here in Spain for crocheting, I do not remember now the manufacturer. I have been told by Maria Jose that if you have any trouble finding the thread Dalia nº 12, it can be changed by: Anchor Fabra Coats (crochet thread), nº12, ball of 5 gr. Hope this helps. Carolina. Barcelona. Spain. -- Carolina de la Guardia http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego Witch Stitch Lace II now available Julie Ourom wrote: Thread help The October pattern in the Lace Guild calendar for a tape lace pumpkin caught my fancy. It's made by a Spanish lacemaker, Maria Jose Jovez and calls for Daliam cotton thread 50 #12. Has anyone ever heard of this thread? I want to use some crochet cotton from my stash and it would help to know approx. what weight it is so I know how to adjust the pricking. So far I haven't been able to track it down. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] thread help: daliam cotton thread, lace in literature
Hello Caroline I don't think Coats-Anchor make a No 12 crochet cotton but they do make Pearl cotton no 12, which is what I'd already suggested as a substitute for the pricking in the Lace Guild calendar. Brenda On 24 Oct 2005, at 16:40, Carolina de la Guardia wrote: Hello all spiders, I have contacted Maria Jose Jover, a fellow lacemaker designer of the tape lace pattern on the Lace Guild Calendar. Dalia is a cotton thread used here in Spain for crocheting, I do not remember now the manufacturer. I have been told by Maria Jose that if you have any trouble finding the thread Dalia nº 12, it can be changed by: Anchor Fabra Coats (crochet thread), nº12, ball of 5 gr. Hope this helps. Carolina. Barcelona. Spain. -- Carolina de la Guardia http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego Witch Stitch Lace II now available Julie Ourom wrote: Thread help The October pattern in the Lace Guild calendar for a tape lace pumpkin caught my fancy. It's made by a Spanish lacemaker, Maria Jose Jovez and calls for Daliam cotton thread 50 #12. Has anyone ever heard of this thread? I want to use some crochet cotton from my stash and it would help to know approx. what weight it is so I know how to adjust the pricking. So far I haven't been able to track it down. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] thread help: daliam cotton thread, lace in literature
Well, I joined the list within the first month or two of its formation so I could probably be considered a dowager, not that I've ever thought of using that term. Thread help The October pattern in the Lace Guild calendar for a tape lace pumpkin caught my fancy. It's made by a Spanish lacemaker, Maria Jose Jovez and calls for Daliam cotton thread 50 #12. Has anyone ever heard of this thread? I want to use some crochet cotton from my stash and it would help to know approx. what weight it is so I know how to adjust the pricking. So far I haven't been able to track it down. I have only the second edition of Brenda's thread book, and I don't see it there. I'd appreciate it if someone could check to see if it's in the 3rd edition (I need to get a copy) or possibly someone knows of this thread or has used it. Lace in Literature from The Towers of Trebizond by Rose Macaulay, an out-of-print novel (likely in your library), zany and fun. ...I was glad to drive to Bethlehem in the afternoon with my mother, who knew nothing except about the shops where they made jewellery and mother-of-pearl crosses and olive wood Bibles and velvet jackets embroidered with gold. Whenever my mother was in Bethlehem she got some of these jackets or tunics, and gave them to her friends and relations. She had a notion that all the New Testament women had shopped there, and that on the Sabbath they had all put on these velvet coats, and walked out in them, and she pictured all the Marys... and all the other women, walking out in these black velvet coats embroidered with gold thread, and ovef they heads they wore shawls of handmade lace. Probably knit or crochet lace...how we all wish that writers would give us more of the important details. JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada where it's cold and frosty today...and I can finally spend time getting organised for some fall projects...e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread Help Request
Hi Shirlee and Patty, Just a note about assessing the size of threads. Brenda compares them by counting the number of wraps needed to cover One Centimetre, not an inch. (Very different results) Fil a Dentelle is 30 wrpas and equivalent threads would be Special Dentelles, Broder Special 50 DMC Cordonnet 80. Also YLI quilting thread which works up quite nicely. An equivalent for the MEZ Effectgarn could be a single strand of Madeira metallic no. 10 or Madeira Glissen Gloss Rainbow. Jean in Cleveland UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, November 2, 2003, at 06:26 AM, Patty Dowden wrote: Hi Shirlee, I looked up the threads you asked about in Brenda's book. . . .Would any tatting threads be comparable to Fil a Dentelle? Fil A Dentelle is size 80 tatting thread. Also, I have a pattern calling for Mez Effektgarn fine metallic thread. I have several skeins of DMC metallic floss am wondering if a strand or two of this would be an appropriate substitute? MEZ Effektgarn fine metallic is 2 ply with 30 wraps per inch DMC metallic floss is 2 ply with 21 wraps per inch The DMC is half again as thick as the MEZ For reference, Fil A Dentelle is 30 wraps per inch. Any metallic that is about the same size as tatting cotton could be used. If all you have for metallic accent is the DMC metallic floss, used a crochet cotton of about the same size, DMC size 30 cordonnet (crochet thread) is 20 wraps per inch and DMC size 40 is 22 wraps per inch. DMC Perle Cotton size 12 is 21 wraps per inch. (Personally I like to tat with perl cotton. It tats softer than normal tatting thread because it has fewer plies and less twist.) Note: Most metallic threads are a thin metallized polyester strip wrapped around a carrying thread. Some metallics have a strong tendency to unwrap and snarl when tatted. I don't know of particular threads to recommend that behave better or worse. Note: All these numbers cited at wraps per inch is the method Brenda uses to compare the relative thickness of threads. Thin threads can be wrapped around a card many more times than thick threads can. The wrap number is a good index of whether two threads are very nearly the same size or not. NOW can you start your project? I hope so. Sometimes I just want to go do it! All the best, Patty Dowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Thread Help Request
Thanks to those of you who recommended Brenda Paternoster's book on thread conversions! I have ordered it but have no idea when it's going to arrive. Probably not today, I am wanting to start a new lace project, so could someone please help me? Like I said in my initial posting, I have all sizes of tatting threads. Would any tatting threads be comparable to Fil a Dentelle? Also, I have a pattern calling for Mez Effektgarn fine metallic thread. I have several skeins of DMC metallic floss am wondering if a strand or two of this would be an appropriate substitute? Shirlee Hill - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
